December 15, 2025 • 23 mins
Dr. Dubrow names the GLP-1 that will take over 2026.
Meanwhile, Heather takes a ‘jab’ at post-Ozempic beauty standards, and who is Terry telling to STFU?
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
I'm Henry Brow and I'm doctor Terry Debrow.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Today you or doctor Terry.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
I am doctor Terry Brow.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
I'm going I'm gonna call on you, doctor, and we're
gonna keep this between us.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Oh no, no, no, I'm gonna spew forth all sorts
of things. Okay, Doc Dot And by the way, if
you have a pencil and paper, you might want to
take notes on today. Have a lot of things to
talk that are noteworthy. Okay, So prepare yourselves.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Prepare yourselves. By the way that he thinks everything he
says is noteworthy, but I think today he might be
actually correct.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
So we saw this article from page six and it
says stars are shrinking in the Ozemba age. Is there
a new body positivity or just the same old impossible
beauty standards, you know, because people are talking about this
new pressure to be thin, like models and people that
have had these dramatic weight losses from GLP once. But
(00:56):
I mean, I don't know if I've said this before
on the podcast, but I was in college. What we
used to do and even in my early twenties, was
we smoked cigarettes, drank diet coke, and took dexatrin. If
you are telling me that that is better than taking
a shot that's been around for ten fifteen years, that's
(01:19):
been tested obviously because of diabetics for so many years,
so we know it's safe. Wouldn't you have rather have
me been doing that than the.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Diet soda cigarette dexatrin, Well, disaster.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
One is incredibly dangerous and life shortening, and one is
incredibly healthy and life extending, then why can't them?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
But that is my point.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
But when you hear people talk about GLP ones, people
are embarrassed to admit they're on them. They think it's
like cheating. They there's such a stigma to being on
them that no one.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Wants to talk about it. And maybe we're just not
there yet.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
But why Okay, so people need to get over it.
People need to get over it. People need to realize
that not only are these drugs we're going to talk
about a new one that's going to come out the
end of next year. Okay, not only these drugs incredibly
helpful for the disease of obesity, but for those of
(02:20):
you who are criticizing it or saying that it's cheating,
or that it has side effects or that we don't
know what the dangers will be. With all due respect, STFU, Okay,
shut up, because you're completely wrong, naive, and ignorant. Because
these drugs not only are curing the disease of obesity,
(02:43):
which is I've told you before, is the number one
risk factor for all of the top four causes of death,
including heart disease, cancer, degenerative mental cognition and disorders, and
metabol disease like diabetes. Not only are they curative of that,
but now they're getting FDA approved for if you've had
(03:04):
a heart attack, to prevent a recurrent heart attack, even
if you're not overweight. Really, now it's FD approved for
liver fatty steosis fatty liver disease. Now it's FDA approved
for chronic kidney disease stage one into me in the
non obese, and it's going to very clearly be FD
approved for Alzheimer's in the future. And what gamlation addiction?
(03:27):
So you really got STFU when you're putting down I
don't want to hear it anymore from anyone, whether you're
a nonscience or non science influencer for personal trainer, or
you're you know, just a high school ground. I don't
want to hear it because you don't know, and stfu.
These drugs are here to stay and they're getting better.
(03:47):
In fact, there's a new one. Listen to how mind
blowing this is. Okay, I've never heard of this phenomenon
that is occurring right now. All right, you think AI
is going crazy? Listen to this. A drug that's going
through the end parts of the clinical trials Phase three
clinical trials at the FDA called Redta truetide. If you
(04:09):
just google REDDA you'll see how explosive it is. Now.
It's not on the market. Eli Lilly's making it the
same people who make Monjaro and zep bound, which are
the same drugs. Okay, what it is is Redda Truetide
is basically Monjaro, which is a gp a GLP one
(04:30):
and glucagon, which is a hormone another naturally occurring hormones
in your body that causes straight up fat burning that
strips fat off your liver, viscerally, the dangerous visceral fat,
which is the organ fat, heart, lungs. This is it,
ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
So Ozevikmone is GLP one, Munjaro is two.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Hormone GP and GLP one and REDDA true tide three
is three. It's monjaro plus glucagon.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
And do you think everyone should be like, well, I
don't know which one to go on.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Well, you can't go on this one yet theoretically because
it's not out yet, but people are already called Well,
here's the thing, right, this one is the early data
or the late stage data for REDTA true tide Retta
is not only are you losing much more body fat?
Okay with this new drug, you're burning directly body fat
(05:33):
is opposed to controlling your sugar so you're and controlling
your appetite so you're just not eating as many calories
and that's why you're losing weight. This is that and
direct body fat burning.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
But that makes me feel like if someone only has
like ten pounds to lose, do they will.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
They get too thin?
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Well? You, well, look at Ariana Grande. Don't you think
by the way, I have no idea if she's taking
these drugs or not, But don't you think she's a
little too too? Right now? Do I think she's too?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Boyd?
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Every I don't, I don't know is really calling everyone
out for body shaming her.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I think I'm not body shaming her. I think she
looks fantastic. She just looks different, Okay, And.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah, maybe she's on a world by the way storge,
Maybe she's stressed, Maybe she's if she's.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
On a GLP one, if she's on monjurro, fine care,
that's healthy. She's healthy being that's fine.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
But I guess the question is when do you know
if someone is overusing?
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Well, let's yes, that is a question. But let's let
me just finish this one thought, and that is that
reditrue Tide is not even out and it's already being
made by compounding pharmacies. That's scary, fully illegally.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Okay, do you find that scary?
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I find I don't find it necessarily that scary if
if a real compounding pharmacy is doing it. But what
I do find scary is, you know, are they sort
of guessing at the formula.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Right because they don't know what the formula?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Well, they know it's GP and GLP one, right, and
they know it's glucagon, so it's not I don't.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
But isn't there also like a matter of let's call
them fillers, right, Because when you mix a drup vehicles.
They call it okay vehicle.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
So you you're making a pill, you're making a shot,
you're big whatever, there's other things that bind it together
or whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
And maybe that's part of the equation.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
And if you don't know what it's like baking a
cake and you don't know to put eggs in, it's
just not.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Going to be the same.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
True. But the compounded golp ones, the compounded gp glp
ones work very well. Yeah, and you know they seem
to work as well as But have there.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Been any reports on how the compounded not redditrue tide
is going.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
So that's all you can find now is compounded redititrue tide,
and it's spread like wildfire through this country. I wouldn't
be surprised. Oh, by the way, do you know what
the number one prescribed drug in the United States is? What? Well?
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Really, yes, the number one drug? And so what's the
number two? I know probably you don't know, but I
can tell you that.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
I wouldn't be surprised if Redda truetide becomes the number
one jug on the market before it even comes out.
That's how many people are using because it's so much
more effective for weight loss and fat burner.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
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Speaker 2 (09:06):
So, when you're saying fat burn you're talking. You were
talking before about visceral fat.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
What I understand visceral fat to be is the fat
that forms around your organs.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
So, and that's the.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
First fat you lose when you lose weight, right, Which
is why when you're losing weight, you don't see it immediately,
because you're losing the visceral fat that's around your heart
and your mind.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
It's also the most dangerous fat, right, because that's what
clogs up your orgs.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah, and that's why they say it is a study
of the New England Journal Medicine established the fact that
the first five to ten percent of the weight you
lose in a weight loss program gives you ninety percent
of the benefit because it's the visceral, because it's the
inside visceral fat. Okay, So this redta true tite called
Redtta is all over the internet.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Let's get you ridda a man.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, and people, you know, you're literally thirty forty percent
the speed of Monjaro and the weight loss plus all
of the visceral fat burning. Okay, so this is going
to be next shield. This will be a number one
drug within two months of it coming out.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
When do you think this will be FDA approved about?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I think I think the end of twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Oh not for like a year. Okay.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Now let me ask you this doctor, Obesity Medicine certified doctor.
So when a patient comes into you and says, I am,
you know, not happy with my body.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I need to lose ten pounds, I'm going through menopause,
I have this.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Exercise resistant fat all that are you going to choose
which of these three drugs are appropriate? For that person.
Do you think that there's different implications for.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Each of these.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Well, you know, I'm going to base my prescribing of
redititrue Tide based on the FDA clinical trials, and those
aren't available yet, so I wouldn't prescribe red at your tribe.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I understand what I'm saying. What you what you what
it seems to be?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
It seems to be.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Yeah, yeah, I'm just saying, will you do you decide, oh,
you should get this or do you think nope, everyone's
going to be on this one.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Well, I don't think, you know, anyone should bother with
ozampik or a goobi. Those are the same drug. I
think Ozampic's days are numbered. I don't think anybody should
be on it.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
It's like the Betamax, the VH.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah this is VHS. Okay, Yeah, it's the MANA true
tie is going to be It's not gonna even be
c DVDs or CDs, It's gonna be streamings. Tide is
going to be the streaming.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
That's so interesting.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
And do you think eventually it will stop being a
shot and it'll be in a pill form.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
I do. But there's also another one on the horizon
that no one's even talking about, which is what there's
one that they're testing. It's much earlier phase where they're
going to add and they're gonna use a different hormone
called amylin, which is another pancreatic hormone which also controls sugar,
helps you lose weight, burn body fat. And then there's
(11:57):
another one.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
But what makes it different just.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
More powerful with no side effects. It's all about the
side effects, right because Monjarro, which I take, you know,
I'm much more used to it now, but I still
get gird, I still get a lot of heartburning, indigestion
from it. There's also another drug that's going to be
(12:21):
added to this called myostat. One of the concerns of
this is that you know, on a regular diet you
lose about fifty percent. You know what you lose is
you know, seventy five percent is fat, twenty five percent
is lean muscle our regular diet. With these drugs, the
concern is if you don't increase your protein and you
don't do res this is straining. It's fifty to fifty
and you want to preserve your lean muscle mass. There's
(12:43):
a new peptie that's got to come out.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Are you saying thozempic? And all these are in the
peptide category.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
These are all peptids. Yeah, you know what a peptide is.
Just so everybody knows. A peptide is a chain of
amino acids. Okay, that's all it is, Like underthink ninety
six amino acids. Make it a peptide, short chain amino acid. Okay,
but this is all category. And then peptides put together
form a protein. Okay. So all the peptides you've heard of,
(13:11):
which we can have a whole show on BP eight
BPC one fifty seven TB five hundred ceug h. You know,
I know all of these peptides like the back.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I'm very interested in it.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Peptide show with peptide. But this a lot of friends.
This new thing that could be added to these called
myostatin is going to make it. It's going to be
like help you to develop your muscles. It'll lose no
muscle mass while you're on these drugs.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Oh so it's something you would add it to your
red Like potentially you could take your red up this
and this other thing and you would keep your.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Muscle, keep your muscle.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Let me ask you this, does it concern you?
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Because I think everyone was basically cool, or most people
were cool with the fact that ozempic and the GLP
once had been around for so long because diabetics have
been using them for so many years that they're safe.
I think when when as we sit here talking about this,
and we've talked about this with Rob Heisinga as well,
because we've talked about, you know, as doctor and missus
(14:10):
guinea pig experimenting with peptides, which I think we are
going to do when we're talking about doing. But it
is a little bit of the wild wild West. And
so these new drugs you're talking about, REDDA and this
next level of thing, like, how do you then know
that in five years they're not gonna say, oh, you're
going to grow like seven more nipples moretta So retta.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Is just those other ones that are being used by
adding lucagon. Yeah, and we know glucagon, so.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
We're not worried about that. But these other drugs you're
talking about, these other peptides.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Yeah, they could be an issue. We don't know. But
so the takeo message here is if you look up
REDDA and you look at the on these threads and
on Reddit and all these things. The bazillion people are
taking REDDA with amazing results, and you might think, well,
why would I bother with Manjarro which is expensive? Although today,
(15:08):
just today Eli Lilly reduced the cash price of Manjarro
to what from twelve hundred dollars to two hundred and
ninety nine dollars a lot.
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Speaker 1 (16:26):
By the way, if you go to Lily Direct l
I l l y Direct, they have telehealth. You can
buy prescription monjarl slashes bound same drug for two hundred
and ninety nine of them. That's great, and so there's
no reason to go to a compounding pharmacy to get
these things anymore. But the problem is, right now, retta
(16:47):
is available from compounding pharmacies. I don't know if it's
built from good ones or not. I know of some
that have it, but it's hold on. But it's incredibly inexpensive,
even cheaper than MU, much more effective. But you don't
know what you're getting, so we don't recommend you do
REDDA yet. But if you do get REDDA, based on
(17:10):
me referring you to the Internet and looking these things up,
make sure, you get it from a compounding pharmacy. That's
an F five oh two C. In other words, it's
licensed to compound drugs. Okay, you are knowing that people
are going to look at them going, my gosh, Terry
is so right. This is like the next miracle of
(17:31):
miracle drugs. If you are going to do it, get
it from a licensed compounding pharmacy.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, that scares me. I am totally for I want
things to be FDA approved. I don't want someone guessing
about like what they're putting.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Well, you know the you know they say I want
my MTV. They did I want my Reddit? Your tege
I two seconds from going on retitrude tide by the way,
just truth be told.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Okay, here's my thing about all of these drugs. My
thing about all of these drugs is the long term
And I'm not talking about the long term effects as
we just talked about that a little bit, but I
mean the long term lifestyle because I think you would agree,
and I'm curious to hear your thoughts on it. But
you know, in the same way that that cigarette, diet, soda,
(18:26):
dexoterrim life point, well.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
I mean, yet you have to learn how to eat properly.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
You need protein and nutrients in your body to keep
it running at optimum levels and to age properly. You
can't exist on no food or you know, little bites
of food here and there. You still need nutrition, and
you need to lift weights and you need to exercise.
My big thing about these drugs is I think it's great,
(18:55):
and I love all the ancillary benefits, cognitive health, hard health,
all of.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Us saying, but.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
How do we get people to learn how to eat
and make sure they're in the gym and they're just
not jabbing themselves and crossing their fingers.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
So the other question to ask or to reframe that
what do you do after you've been on these drugs
and you've lost the way? Now? What do you stay
on the same dose? Do you lower the dose? Is
the main is their maintenance? What do you do? So
truth be told, no one in obesity medicine, and as
(19:34):
you know, on board certified OBC medicine, there is no
accepted what are we looking at?
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Oh RETTA is one hundred and twenty dollars to a
few hundred dollars per file.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yeah, but a vile Yeah, depending on the concentration of
the vile. But by the way, rehtta, just you know,
I've looked it up because I this is what I
do for a living. You can get doses of retta
from a good compound pharmacy for life ten bucks a week. Okay.
But anyway, so the question is, and no one's really
(20:06):
talking about this. Okay, fine, I get ozempic, I get Monjaro,
I get zemp out. You're talking about retta. What the
hell do I do once I've lost the weight?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Now I look good?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Now I look good. Do I stay on the same
dose forever? Can I go off it? Can? I say
to myself, well, I can go off it because I've
retrained my body. I think the thing to do. And
this is where the definition of microdosing comes in to me.
Microdosing means you've figured out whatever dose you need to
get to your ideal valuate. Some people are big responders
(20:39):
and they don't need to go up every week. Other
people need to keep going up in their concentration every week.
But once you get there, go back to the original
low dose and see whether you can maintain on that.
That is the new definition of microdosing. Using the minimum
available dose to sustain and maintain your way, and.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Then do you go to like every other week with it.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
You can't, by the way, you can do your own
little experimentation. I think for now, once you get to
your ideal body weight, you drop it down to the
lower dose and you see how you do yeah, for
about four weeks, so you tailor it to your own physiology.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
I want to stay on it because of all those others.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Stay on the anti aging effect. Yea, yeah, And so
I think that's what no one really talks about, you know,
because I think what you might be seeing with some
of these hyper skinny celebrities is they get to their
ideal body weight and they say, this is so wonderful.
I'm just going to stay on this high dose and
(21:42):
then they take it to the on a tail the
impossible body image. They're now all looking ridiculously overly thin.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I guess. But I mean, look, that's happened so many
times throughout the decades.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
There was the twiggy you know, period of time where
everyone was so so and I mean when I was
in my twenties, everyone wanted to be as thin as possible.
I mean this this Kardashian but like no one wanted
any bubble, any anything anywhere.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Let's you know, like silhouettes change throughout the decadent.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I know, but I don't think it's really into twiggy
thin right now. Is that what you're saying, that it's
in and that's the way it goes.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
I think it's back to being twiggy thin now and
it's because of the drugs.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yes, I can only think of two or three celebrities
or a twig e thin. But I think that the
point is is that some of them are staying on
the high dose and they're going too far with it.
I haven't seen that, well, I don't, okay. I think
that's one of the things people are talking about, honey.
That's on social media. People are getting overly thin, right,
(22:44):
and so the problem is when you get that thin,
your lead muscle mass compartment goes to nothing, right, and
you're unhealthy. So what do you do and drop it down?
You drop down to the lowest. You must start microdosing it.
That's a good all right.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
So if you're on it and you're at the right dose,
drop it rown, drop it down. You're gonna microdose and
then you are a oh, don't get too thin.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Because your too thin, is too lean muscle mass and
that's not good. And women particularly, you need that muscle
mass because that's what provides this distraction of your bones
and keeps your bone health good.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
All right, we have to go now because Terry needs
to go get his retta.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Right, I'm calling it a prescription right now for me
at the Red Try time, so i'll hear it that
I'm Henry Brow and I'm doctor Terry Debrow.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Today you or doctor Terry.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
I am doctor Terry Brow.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
I'm going I'm gonna call on you, doctor, and we're
gonna keep this between us.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Oh no, no, no, I'm gonna spew forth all sorts
of things. Okay, Doc Dot And by the way, if
you have a pencil and paper, you might want to
take notes on today. Have a lot of things to
talk that are noteworthy. Okay, So prepare yourselves.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Prepare yourselves. By the way that he thinks everything he
says is noteworthy, but I think today he might be
actually correct.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
So we saw this article from page six and it
says stars are shrinking in the Ozemba age. Is there
a new body positivity or just the same old impossible
beauty standards, you know, because people are talking about this
new pressure to be thin, like models and people that
have had these dramatic weight losses from GLP once. But
(00:56):
I mean, I don't know if I've said this before
on the podcast, but I was in college. What we
used to do and even in my early twenties, was
we smoked cigarettes, drank diet coke, and took dexatrin. If
you are telling me that that is better than taking
a shot that's been around for ten fifteen years, that's
(01:19):
been tested obviously because of diabetics for so many years,
so we know it's safe. Wouldn't you have rather have
me been doing that than the.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Diet soda cigarette dexatrin, Well, disaster.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
One is incredibly dangerous and life shortening, and one is
incredibly healthy and life extending, then why can't them?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
But that is my point.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
But when you hear people talk about GLP ones, people
are embarrassed to admit they're on them. They think it's
like cheating. They there's such a stigma to being on
them that no one.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Wants to talk about it. And maybe we're just not
there yet.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
But why Okay, so people need to get over it.
People need to get over it. People need to realize
that not only are these drugs we're going to talk
about a new one that's going to come out the
end of next year. Okay, not only these drugs incredibly
helpful for the disease of obesity, but for those of
(02:20):
you who are criticizing it or saying that it's cheating,
or that it has side effects or that we don't
know what the dangers will be. With all due respect, STFU, Okay,
shut up, because you're completely wrong, naive, and ignorant. Because
these drugs not only are curing the disease of obesity,
(02:43):
which is I've told you before, is the number one
risk factor for all of the top four causes of death,
including heart disease, cancer, degenerative mental cognition and disorders, and
metabol disease like diabetes. Not only are they curative of that,
but now they're getting FDA approved for if you've had
(03:04):
a heart attack, to prevent a recurrent heart attack, even
if you're not overweight. Really, now it's FD approved for
liver fatty steosis fatty liver disease. Now it's FDA approved
for chronic kidney disease stage one into me in the
non obese, and it's going to very clearly be FD
approved for Alzheimer's in the future. And what gamlation addiction?
(03:27):
So you really got STFU when you're putting down I
don't want to hear it anymore from anyone, whether you're
a nonscience or non science influencer for personal trainer, or
you're you know, just a high school ground. I don't
want to hear it because you don't know, and stfu.
These drugs are here to stay and they're getting better.
(03:47):
In fact, there's a new one. Listen to how mind
blowing this is. Okay, I've never heard of this phenomenon
that is occurring right now. All right, you think AI
is going crazy? Listen to this. A drug that's going
through the end parts of the clinical trials Phase three
clinical trials at the FDA called Redta truetide. If you
(04:09):
just google REDDA you'll see how explosive it is. Now.
It's not on the market. Eli Lilly's making it the
same people who make Monjaro and zep bound, which are
the same drugs. Okay, what it is is Redda Truetide
is basically Monjaro, which is a gp a GLP one
(04:30):
and glucagon, which is a hormone another naturally occurring hormones
in your body that causes straight up fat burning that
strips fat off your liver, viscerally, the dangerous visceral fat,
which is the organ fat, heart, lungs. This is it,
ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
So Ozevikmone is GLP one, Munjaro is two.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Hormone GP and GLP one and REDDA true tide three
is three. It's monjaro plus glucagon.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
And do you think everyone should be like, well, I
don't know which one to go on.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Well, you can't go on this one yet theoretically because
it's not out yet, but people are already called Well,
here's the thing, right, this one is the early data
or the late stage data for REDTA true tide Retta
is not only are you losing much more body fat?
Okay with this new drug, you're burning directly body fat
(05:33):
is opposed to controlling your sugar so you're and controlling
your appetite so you're just not eating as many calories
and that's why you're losing weight. This is that and
direct body fat burning.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
But that makes me feel like if someone only has
like ten pounds to lose, do they will.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
They get too thin?
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Well? You, well, look at Ariana Grande. Don't you think
by the way, I have no idea if she's taking
these drugs or not, But don't you think she's a
little too too? Right now? Do I think she's too?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Boyd?
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Every I don't, I don't know is really calling everyone
out for body shaming her.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I think I'm not body shaming her. I think she
looks fantastic. She just looks different, Okay, And.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah, maybe she's on a world by the way storge,
Maybe she's stressed, Maybe she's if she's.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
On a GLP one, if she's on monjurro, fine care,
that's healthy. She's healthy being that's fine.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
But I guess the question is when do you know
if someone is overusing?
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Well, let's yes, that is a question. But let's let
me just finish this one thought, and that is that
reditrue Tide is not even out and it's already being
made by compounding pharmacies. That's scary, fully illegally.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Okay, do you find that scary?
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I find I don't find it necessarily that scary if
if a real compounding pharmacy is doing it. But what
I do find scary is, you know, are they sort
of guessing at the formula.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Right because they don't know what the formula?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Well, they know it's GP and GLP one, right, and
they know it's glucagon, so it's not I don't.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
But isn't there also like a matter of let's call
them fillers, right, Because when you mix a drup vehicles.
They call it okay vehicle.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
So you you're making a pill, you're making a shot,
you're big whatever, there's other things that bind it together
or whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
And maybe that's part of the equation.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
And if you don't know what it's like baking a
cake and you don't know to put eggs in, it's
just not.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Going to be the same.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
True. But the compounded golp ones, the compounded gp glp
ones work very well. Yeah, and you know they seem
to work as well as But have there.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Been any reports on how the compounded not redditrue tide
is going.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
So that's all you can find now is compounded redititrue tide,
and it's spread like wildfire through this country. I wouldn't
be surprised. Oh, by the way, do you know what
the number one prescribed drug in the United States is? What? Well?
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Really, yes, the number one drug? And so what's the
number two? I know probably you don't know, but I
can tell you that.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
I wouldn't be surprised if Redda truetide becomes the number
one jug on the market before it even comes out.
That's how many people are using because it's so much
more effective for weight loss and fat burner.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Hey, it's Wilfred Ell and Sabrina Bryan.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
From the podcast Magical Rewind and we have a very
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Speaker 6 (08:52):
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Speaker 2 (09:06):
So, when you're saying fat burn you're talking. You were
talking before about visceral fat.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
What I understand visceral fat to be is the fat
that forms around your organs.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
So, and that's the.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
First fat you lose when you lose weight, right, Which
is why when you're losing weight, you don't see it immediately,
because you're losing the visceral fat that's around your heart
and your mind.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
It's also the most dangerous fat, right, because that's what
clogs up your orgs.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah, and that's why they say it is a study
of the New England Journal Medicine established the fact that
the first five to ten percent of the weight you
lose in a weight loss program gives you ninety percent
of the benefit because it's the visceral, because it's the
inside visceral fat. Okay, So this redta true tite called
Redtta is all over the internet.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Let's get you ridda a man.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, and people, you know, you're literally thirty forty percent
the speed of Monjaro and the weight loss plus all
of the visceral fat burning. Okay, so this is going
to be next shield. This will be a number one
drug within two months of it coming out.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
When do you think this will be FDA approved about?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I think I think the end of twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Oh not for like a year. Okay.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Now let me ask you this doctor, Obesity Medicine certified doctor.
So when a patient comes into you and says, I am,
you know, not happy with my body.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I need to lose ten pounds, I'm going through menopause,
I have this.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Exercise resistant fat all that are you going to choose
which of these three drugs are appropriate? For that person.
Do you think that there's different implications for.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Each of these.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Well, you know, I'm going to base my prescribing of
redititrue Tide based on the FDA clinical trials, and those
aren't available yet, so I wouldn't prescribe red at your tribe.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I understand what I'm saying. What you what you what
it seems to be?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
It seems to be.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Yeah, yeah, I'm just saying, will you do you decide, oh,
you should get this or do you think nope, everyone's
going to be on this one.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Well, I don't think, you know, anyone should bother with
ozampik or a goobi. Those are the same drug. I
think Ozampic's days are numbered. I don't think anybody should
be on it.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
It's like the Betamax, the VH.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah this is VHS. Okay, Yeah, it's the MANA true
tie is going to be It's not gonna even be
c DVDs or CDs, It's gonna be streamings. Tide is
going to be the streaming.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
That's so interesting.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
And do you think eventually it will stop being a
shot and it'll be in a pill form.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
I do. But there's also another one on the horizon
that no one's even talking about, which is what there's
one that they're testing. It's much earlier phase where they're
going to add and they're gonna use a different hormone
called amylin, which is another pancreatic hormone which also controls sugar,
helps you lose weight, burn body fat. And then there's
(11:57):
another one.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
But what makes it different just.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
More powerful with no side effects. It's all about the
side effects, right because Monjarro, which I take, you know,
I'm much more used to it now, but I still
get gird, I still get a lot of heartburning, indigestion
from it. There's also another drug that's going to be
(12:21):
added to this called myostat. One of the concerns of
this is that you know, on a regular diet you
lose about fifty percent. You know what you lose is
you know, seventy five percent is fat, twenty five percent
is lean muscle our regular diet. With these drugs, the
concern is if you don't increase your protein and you
don't do res this is straining. It's fifty to fifty
and you want to preserve your lean muscle mass. There's
(12:43):
a new peptie that's got to come out.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Are you saying thozempic? And all these are in the
peptide category.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
These are all peptids. Yeah, you know what a peptide is.
Just so everybody knows. A peptide is a chain of
amino acids. Okay, that's all it is, Like underthink ninety
six amino acids. Make it a peptide, short chain amino acid. Okay,
but this is all category. And then peptides put together
form a protein. Okay. So all the peptides you've heard of,
(13:11):
which we can have a whole show on BP eight
BPC one fifty seven TB five hundred ceug h. You know,
I know all of these peptides like the back.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I'm very interested in it.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Peptide show with peptide. But this a lot of friends.
This new thing that could be added to these called
myostatin is going to make it. It's going to be
like help you to develop your muscles. It'll lose no
muscle mass while you're on these drugs.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Oh so it's something you would add it to your
red Like potentially you could take your red up this
and this other thing and you would keep your.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Muscle, keep your muscle.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Let me ask you this, does it concern you?
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Because I think everyone was basically cool, or most people
were cool with the fact that ozempic and the GLP
once had been around for so long because diabetics have
been using them for so many years that they're safe.
I think when when as we sit here talking about this,
and we've talked about this with Rob Heisinga as well,
because we've talked about, you know, as doctor and missus
(14:10):
guinea pig experimenting with peptides, which I think we are
going to do when we're talking about doing. But it
is a little bit of the wild wild West. And
so these new drugs you're talking about, REDDA and this
next level of thing, like, how do you then know
that in five years they're not gonna say, oh, you're
going to grow like seven more nipples moretta So retta.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Is just those other ones that are being used by
adding lucagon. Yeah, and we know glucagon, so.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
We're not worried about that. But these other drugs you're
talking about, these other peptides.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Yeah, they could be an issue. We don't know. But
so the takeo message here is if you look up
REDDA and you look at the on these threads and
on Reddit and all these things. The bazillion people are
taking REDDA with amazing results, and you might think, well,
why would I bother with Manjarro which is expensive? Although today,
(15:08):
just today Eli Lilly reduced the cash price of Manjarro
to what from twelve hundred dollars to two hundred and
ninety nine dollars a lot.
Speaker 7 (15:25):
I'm Kristin Davis, host of the podcast Are You a Charlotte?
The most anticipated guest from season three is here the
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all of the magical Tray in Charlotte moments. He reveals
what he thinks of Trey giving Charlotte a cardboard baby.
Speaker 8 (15:46):
Why would I bring her a cardboard baby? I was
literally I was like, this doesn't track for me at all.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
When he found out Trey's shortcomings.
Speaker 8 (15:54):
I'm kind of excited to talking about. You know, I
think he's he's a guy spends time in Central Park.
You know, he's probably don't need to be some surgery store,
you know. And I was like, all this kind of
stuff going on, and they were like yeah, yeah, yeah,
And they said, but he's impotent, and I was like, he's.
Speaker 7 (16:07):
Impotent, and why he chose not to return to it?
Speaker 8 (16:10):
Just like that, they came and presented an idea and
I was like, I get I see it.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
It's so kind of a one joke idea.
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Speaker 1 (16:26):
By the way, if you go to Lily Direct l
I l l y Direct, they have telehealth. You can
buy prescription monjarl slashes bound same drug for two hundred
and ninety nine of them. That's great, and so there's
no reason to go to a compounding pharmacy to get
these things anymore. But the problem is, right now, retta
(16:47):
is available from compounding pharmacies. I don't know if it's
built from good ones or not. I know of some
that have it, but it's hold on. But it's incredibly inexpensive,
even cheaper than MU, much more effective. But you don't
know what you're getting, so we don't recommend you do
REDDA yet. But if you do get REDDA, based on
(17:10):
me referring you to the Internet and looking these things up,
make sure, you get it from a compounding pharmacy. That's
an F five oh two C. In other words, it's
licensed to compound drugs. Okay, you are knowing that people
are going to look at them going, my gosh, Terry
is so right. This is like the next miracle of
(17:31):
miracle drugs. If you are going to do it, get
it from a licensed compounding pharmacy.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, that scares me. I am totally for I want
things to be FDA approved. I don't want someone guessing
about like what they're putting.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Well, you know the you know they say I want
my MTV. They did I want my Reddit? Your tege
I two seconds from going on retitrude tide by the way,
just truth be told.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Okay, here's my thing about all of these drugs. My
thing about all of these drugs is the long term
And I'm not talking about the long term effects as
we just talked about that a little bit, but I
mean the long term lifestyle because I think you would agree,
and I'm curious to hear your thoughts on it. But
you know, in the same way that that cigarette, diet, soda,
(18:26):
dexoterrim life point, well.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
I mean, yet you have to learn how to eat properly.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
You need protein and nutrients in your body to keep
it running at optimum levels and to age properly. You
can't exist on no food or you know, little bites
of food here and there. You still need nutrition, and
you need to lift weights and you need to exercise.
My big thing about these drugs is I think it's great,
(18:55):
and I love all the ancillary benefits, cognitive health, hard health,
all of.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Us saying, but.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
How do we get people to learn how to eat
and make sure they're in the gym and they're just
not jabbing themselves and crossing their fingers.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
So the other question to ask or to reframe that
what do you do after you've been on these drugs
and you've lost the way? Now? What do you stay
on the same dose? Do you lower the dose? Is
the main is their maintenance? What do you do? So
truth be told, no one in obesity medicine, and as
(19:34):
you know, on board certified OBC medicine, there is no
accepted what are we looking at?
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Oh RETTA is one hundred and twenty dollars to a
few hundred dollars per file.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yeah, but a vile Yeah, depending on the concentration of
the vile. But by the way, rehtta, just you know,
I've looked it up because I this is what I
do for a living. You can get doses of retta
from a good compound pharmacy for life ten bucks a week. Okay.
But anyway, so the question is, and no one's really
(20:06):
talking about this. Okay, fine, I get ozempic, I get Monjaro,
I get zemp out. You're talking about retta. What the
hell do I do once I've lost the weight?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Now I look good?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Now I look good. Do I stay on the same
dose forever? Can I go off it? Can? I say
to myself, well, I can go off it because I've
retrained my body. I think the thing to do. And
this is where the definition of microdosing comes in to me.
Microdosing means you've figured out whatever dose you need to
get to your ideal valuate. Some people are big responders
(20:39):
and they don't need to go up every week. Other
people need to keep going up in their concentration every week.
But once you get there, go back to the original
low dose and see whether you can maintain on that.
That is the new definition of microdosing. Using the minimum
available dose to sustain and maintain your way, and.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Then do you go to like every other week with it.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
You can't, by the way, you can do your own
little experimentation. I think for now, once you get to
your ideal body weight, you drop it down to the
lower dose and you see how you do yeah, for
about four weeks, so you tailor it to your own physiology.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
I want to stay on it because of all those others.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Stay on the anti aging effect. Yea, yeah, And so
I think that's what no one really talks about, you know,
because I think what you might be seeing with some
of these hyper skinny celebrities is they get to their
ideal body weight and they say, this is so wonderful.
I'm just going to stay on this high dose and
(21:42):
then they take it to the on a tail the
impossible body image. They're now all looking ridiculously overly thin.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I guess. But I mean, look, that's happened so many
times throughout the decades.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
There was the twiggy you know, period of time where
everyone was so so and I mean when I was
in my twenties, everyone wanted to be as thin as possible.
I mean this this Kardashian but like no one wanted
any bubble, any anything anywhere.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Let's you know, like silhouettes change throughout the decadent.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I know, but I don't think it's really into twiggy
thin right now. Is that what you're saying, that it's
in and that's the way it goes.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
I think it's back to being twiggy thin now and
it's because of the drugs.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yes, I can only think of two or three celebrities
or a twig e thin. But I think that the
point is is that some of them are staying on
the high dose and they're going too far with it.
I haven't seen that, well, I don't, okay. I think
that's one of the things people are talking about, honey.
That's on social media. People are getting overly thin, right,
(22:44):
and so the problem is when you get that thin,
your lead muscle mass compartment goes to nothing, right, and
you're unhealthy. So what do you do and drop it down?
You drop down to the lowest. You must start microdosing it.
That's a good all right.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
So if you're on it and you're at the right dose,
drop it rown, drop it down. You're gonna microdose and
then you are a oh, don't get too thin.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Because your too thin, is too lean muscle mass and
that's not good. And women particularly, you need that muscle
mass because that's what provides this distraction of your bones
and keeps your bone health good.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
All right, we have to go now because Terry needs
to go get his retta.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Right, I'm calling it a prescription right now for me
at the Red Try time, so i'll hear it that
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