October 29, 2025 • 32 mins
You won’t believe the music legend Heather just shared a stage with, and what she did that left Terry in tears!
Plus, her take on certain A-list actors, and where she says her husband ‘falls a little short’ when she reveals a secret he’s been keeping from the world!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
I'm Heather Dubrow, I'm Terry Row, and we're going to
keep this between us, but not really.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
We're back.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Oh you know what's weird. We got back and it's
like we never left. Well, were you jet lagged on
the way there?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Yes, weirdly, which I never get jet lagged?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Yeah, you know, I have to ask do you get
jet lagged on the way to the east coast of
the way back?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Usually it's west?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Yeah, right, Yes, we were a little funky jet lagged.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I thought about this.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I think it's because we'll see, usually whenever we go somewhere,
we immediately acclimate to the time.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
That's right, No naps.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
You gotta keep moving and.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Stay up as long as ye to get on their
real time. You gotta get on the real time.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yeah, and this was only east coast, so it was
only three hours so, which seems so silly to be
so jet lagged.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
But my thought process was we.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Were working so intensely and not sleeping for the three
weeks before we that's for sure that I think we
were so exhausted, and we're on a different time zone.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I just think it was all a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
But I got to tell everyone, we need to tell
everyone about this crazy trip.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Ah, you were amazing. Hey, you handled that was your trip.
That was all about you.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
But you were my passenger, princess.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I was. I came along. No, you were very good,
though I thought it was good. By the way, when
I asked you last night, was I good? You had
first said you were kind of so, so at first.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I said you were great, and then I went, well,
there was that one morning.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I don't actually remember that. Oh you mean, because you
wanted me to come along with you to the thing
day and I didn't want.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
But anyway, this is what happened.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
So we flew to the Bahamas because I had an
appearance to do, and we were in the Bahamas for
like four days, so right, thankfully before the hurricane. Yeah,
I think it's in Jamaica now. We were in the
Bahamas and it was so funny. So many of you
(01:58):
messaged us. May I just thank you, thank you for
telling us to not swim with the pigs, because I
was so gung ho about swimming with the pigs, like
this is going to be great. Terry's gonna love it.
He doesn't even know how much is going to love
it at all I got were a million messages about
how it's swimming.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
With the poop.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah, glad we didn't do that.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah, So I canceled it and we stayed at the
Four Seasons, which I have to say, their adult pool
is one of the loveliest pools I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah, And it landed into this garden, multi level garden
area like we'rely called Versailles, the Versailles Gardens, that's what
they called it.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
To me, it looked like Balie. It was very lush,
so oh so.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
The pool was so pretty exceptionally nice for the peep
for the people who had to hang on.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
There was one couple, there was family. There was one family.
First the first day we went to the beach. Beautiful,
soft sand, gorgeous water, but it was very windy because
of this pending hurricane Hurricane Is. I was called yeah
coming in so because it was so windy, the water
was robbing. It was open, and I'm like, oh my gosh,
I love the Caribbean.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
The water is so clear and you can walk wherever.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
We got it and I almost drowned in like the
first two and ies I'm like, we're leaving.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah, And then there was that group next to us,
and the guy was on the phone. It reminded me
of our honeymoon. That guy was right next to us
at the pool talking about he was obviously a stockbroker
or a final so loudly. This guy was like non
stop talking on the phone.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
This guy had his air pods in and his phone
on FaceTime and he was speaking so loudly.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
We get at the beach, it was loud.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Everywhere we go. We seem to get there, we.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Get the loud talk in front of us. So you
know what, we always bring a little speaker. Yeah, drowns
him out.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
No one can hear our music.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
But it's you know, we get ambient music. So that's
really nice. But it was just I have to say
like it was. We took a walk on the beach,
but I forgot to say I pulled my back out
the day before we left. I remember I was saying,
was it last week? On the pot I was saying,
or no, no, because we did a little pod from
the Bahamas.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I had a lot of comments on.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
The show this year about how I've tried every drug
in Amsterdam.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I know you're you let loose.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
You know what I didn't do in Amsterdam drink alcohol. Yeah,
not one drop. I smoked pot I did trooms.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, no alcohol. So the Bahamas have never been there.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I was there once therese thirteen on it.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
There's very good weather, a little humid.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
I'm going to tell you the the Bahamian people are
soorry the loveliest people. Everyone is so nice, so happy. Yeah,
so great the staff there. And by the way, so
there was a martini bar at the Four Seasons. It's
where they filmed James Bond with Daniel Craig. Daniel Craig
one of the movies they filmed there in the Bahamas
(04:45):
at the Four Seasons, And there's a martini bar and
they have like a shelf with photos with all famous
people from the Bahamas, like Sydney Poitier, and then they
have Daniel Craig's photo there. And there's this bartender named Felix.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Yeah, who is l Yx.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yes, but he's like the third Felix in his family,
but he is spelled differently anyway, Yes, I digress. But
Felix is tall and so handsome and makes the best
espresso martini I've ever had in my life.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yeah, you had a.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Q cumber of martini.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I did, I did? I really did, because normally it
has to be slightly dirty. I usually ordered my Martes
the following way. And you have to mention on the
rocks twice, you say, Greg, goose Martini on the rocks,
on the rocks, because invariable, if you don't say it
twice or emphasize it, it won't come on the road. They'll
for for some reason, forget that and I go slightly
(05:34):
dirty like my wife.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
He used to say, I would like it on the
rocks like my marriage, which I think is hilarious.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
But you you nix that one that I thought that
one was very funny.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
That was funny anyway.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
So Felix made our drinks, we hung out, we met,
and we met really nice people while we were there,
and one night we were at NOBU and the couple
next to us got engaged and.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
It was great. It was a really it was a
very good trip.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
But I was working while I was there, so it
was like a little work, a little pool time, a
little work, a little pool time, and of course my
back no bueno at all, so I didn't get to
work out at all.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
But we did slept relaxed.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
We tried to have hotel sex, but the back. Uh,
the great limiting factor.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
It happens. Okay, So then we flew from there to
New York.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Oh that was you.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
That was crazy. We were in New York for less
than a day.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
You were truly and I know people might think, oh,
because you're her husband, you love her. You were truly
amazing on stage. You did a performance.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Well, let me explain so some people, if they haven't
caught up.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
So what happened was Richard Marx, who you know is
a dear friend of ours, is a new album coming
out in January, and it's all standards and new songs
that he's written in the way of old standards, and
it's so good.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
It's just fantastic.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
And I years ago used to be the lead singer
for a fourteen piece big band that I toured with
for years, and so when he was doing this album,
I was so tickled. And then he got this residency
at the carp Pile for a week in New York,
which is an iconic place to perform like cabaret ish,
and so he asked me to do a song with
(07:20):
him because he was having a lot of people come
up and do songs each night.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
So Hugh Jackman had been there.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
He had a comedian come up the night I was there,
Rita Wilson, who I've known for many years, who is
so fantastic, and Shelley Wright, who I didn't know and
I'm now obsessed with. Also, she's incredible country music singer.
She was there, and so I knew I was going
to do this thing, and you know, I haven't performed
(07:48):
publicly in some times, so of course I go to
Eric Vitro, who's the best who I've known since I
was like twenty two. Is everyone's vocal coach. But Eric
does everyone. He does Arita Grande and Camilicab and he
does literally everyone on the planet.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
And I saw John Stainless when you were there.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
The last time I was there.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
He was a singer. I know he played drums at
the beach.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yah he sings too. But the last time I was there,
I saw John. And it's funny because John and Richard
are friends, and so Eric was.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Like, why are you here? And we're talking John's ever hanging.
I go and I looked a John.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I'm like, oh, I'm going to sing with Richard and
he was like, oh, I wanted to go, but I
can't because or whatever, he's so nice.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
What is with these guys who have great hair? Hair?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
That's so funny that you say that.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Because so we took a picture together and I sent
it to Richard and I was like, oh, look, co,
I'm with you know whatever, blah blah blah, and Richard goes,
as John's walking out, Richard goes, tell him me, he's
having a bad hair day.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
So we flew into New York and I was like,
you know, nervous, excited, but not nervous crazy.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Nervous doesn't seem nervous, right, No.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
And so Terry didn't want to hear it until.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
I didn't want to see the rehearsal or the what
did you call that? The working sound check? Soundcheck? I
don't see that because I didn't know exactly what you
were singing, and I want to see it and all
it's fun.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah, No, I totally got sory. So we got into
the hotel, checked in, went to our room, and I
realized I was gonna go downstairs for the sound check
in sweats and no makeup, because you know me, I'm
either no makeup or a full beat. There's no in
between for me. So I remembered that I was meeting
up with the incredible Max Cohen to film right after
(09:28):
the soundcheck, and so I had to put makeup on.
I was completely unshowered and my hair like it was fine,
so I put a makeup. So Max Cohen had his
Instagram hand TikTok. Handle is a Murray hillboy. He is
so funny. You met him in New York. He's so charming,
and he's this Jewish you know, Long Islander and he
(09:52):
plays Lisa Cohen and from five Towns and does this all.
He's so funny, he plays all the characters and he's amazing.
So we've came Instagram friends. And then I had an
event in New York at the beginning of the Housewife
season that he came.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
To and whatever.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
So he texted me randomly a week ago and said, Hey,
are you going to be in New York anytime soon?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Really want to do something with you.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I go, I'm in New York for like eight hours. Here,
I have this hour for you. He goes, I'm it.
So I went downstairs, did my soundcheck with Richard ran
into Rita Wilson. Oh my god, love her so much.
We sang at this thing together, like twenty five years ago.
Twenty years ago, I don't remember, and we have sort
of bit acquaintances, but we got to really hang out
(10:37):
when we were in New York this time. My gosh,
she is so inspiring and so amazing.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
And I told her.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
When we were having dinner after the gig, I said,
I'm sure you won't remember this, but one time we ran.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Into each other.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I don't remember, fifteen years ago or something, when you
told me that you were going to start singing. And
she goes, oh, I remember that, she said, because I
thought in my fifties, like, is this okay?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I'm starting this whole new career.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
And I said, and look, you've killed it. Just all
these albums. She writes her own music. She's performing at
the Grand Opry. Like, I just think she's so inspirational
and so talented. I just love spending time with her. Anyways,
so we did the soundtrack.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
It's amazing. Guys, actually have so much in common me
and Rita.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah, because we both have fabulous husbands.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
This is all coming back to you. You're such a narcissist.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
You're my mother.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Is her husband again? What's the guys? Oh right, No,
I know that. I'm just kidding. By the way, Tom Hanks.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
He's doing yes and he's doing out lifts without lifts.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Hate him too.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I mean at this point we don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
No Tom Hanks is talking. Everybody sees Tom Hanks the
first thing they think, they think he's going to be
like a Tom Cruise, right, and they're like, you're just
a lone kind of height. And he's like six to two,
like a real six too. Wow, Like not like a
Terry Dubrus lifted. Yeah wow, interesting wow, Hate him too,
know so right?
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Filmed with Max Coo and I cannot wait for you
to see that because it was so fun and he's
so talented.
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Speaker 1 (13:13):
Went upstairs, finally took a shower, tried to keep my
makeup on and just washed my hair, and Valerie came
over and did my hair and juged myself and we
went up to Richard and Daisy's suite, had a drink
and Daisy's sister Rowe and her husband Bernie were there,
who we love, and we had all been to Croatia together,
(13:35):
so that was so fun, and they had their boys
with them. We finally got to meet them, and then
we met Shelley Wright, who is a number one country
recording artist and she's just incredible, loved meeting her, and.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Then we went down to the gig.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
And here's what's so crazy, Okay, so listen, I got
to tell you something, all right. Richard and Daisy and
Terry and I have been friends, I mean over a
decade long time, and we travel together and we do
all the things together. But if I could take myself
out of that moment and just tell you what my
eighties heart did right before going on stage, thinking if
(14:14):
you had told me all those years ago that this
man that I idolized his music, that I would be performing
a song with him at the Carlisle, being a girl
from New York and starting a musical theater in cabaret
and all of that. Singing at the Carlisle with Richard
Marx like I could, and I really all I thought was,
(14:38):
I am just going to enjoy this. I Am just
going Who cares what the result is? Some of it
will probably be clunky. We rehearsed at once. The key's
too low for him, poor thing. He was singing in
my key or whatever, and I was like, I'm just
I'm so excited. I'm just going to have a great time.
And I didn't invite anyone on purpose, because I just
didn't want it to be about I just wanted it
(15:01):
to be for me.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Right, So you hadn't heard it at all? What you
hadn't heard it at all?
Speaker 3 (15:06):
I hadn't heard it. No, And I've heard you sing
that type of music before. But and I know you've
sort of cut your teeth on that kind of music.
That's sort of fifty Sinatra Dean Martin kind of stuff.
But that was so first of all, you were just
that you looked great.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
He's my husband.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Yeah, I'm your husband, but you know what as your
husband weirdly, and I'm sure a lot of a lot
of other husbands. Certainly parents I don't know about you.
I see the the non good stuff immediately.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
You were not grandparents.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Parents.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
We know young parents are like.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Oh my god, isn't she gorgeous? And you're like, no,
she has four teeth and half ahead of hair. It's
but it's true, like so many people like they think
their kids are so talented or they think they're sports stars.
We were never like that. No, We've always been very
realistic about our kids. Like when they're good at something
I'm in and when they're not, Yeah, they're not that good.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
So you got up there.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Not everyone's a genius.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Yeah, you got out there. I love what you're wearing.
It's really cute sort of suit kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
So I was wearing in Hell.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
We always talk about our friend David Hyle, who owns
David August Clothing, who makes all the men's clothes, who
makes Terry's clothes. So his daughter, Blaze has this company,
Blaze Caprice, and she makes clothes also, and she makes this.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Little tuxedo short dress. She gave it to me. I mean, Mike, oh,
five six years ago.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I mean I bought it. I'm saying, but whatever, I
bought it from her five six years ago. I've worn
it so many times. It's so adorable. And again, we
were working so much. Right before we left. I had
a whole other outfit picked out for the Bahamas, for this,
for the that, and then I started putting everything together.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
And I was like, that doesn't work. So I just
threw that in at the last second.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
So you go up there, and then you have to
obviously engage into that in that sort of little pattern
that rep Barte or whatever it's called. And your guys
were so cute together, and you know, Richard. You know
that's what it means for a charming Oh my gosh.
And so then you started the song and I don't know,
was that starting part of the song?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yes, so we sang the Lady is a Tramp.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah, but there's a pre verse to the song and
that most people don't usually do, right, And so I
heard it, and this the only thing I was sort
of like proud of myself is that I went outside
my comfort zone because I've sung Ladies a Tramp before,
not exactly like this version, not in that key, whatever,
(17:39):
but I had done that before, and I thought, boy,
that beginning part is so cool. I think I'm just
going to learn that and sing that too.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Yeah. That was. And then so but you changed it.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I did, Well, you're gonna have to wait for the
reveal of that. I'm gonna put it on my answer your.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Credit in context and to make it relevant to this
part of your life. Very funny, very very unexpected. And
then you started to sing the song and I got okay.
I thought to myself, well, she hasn't really been up
here singing like this for a long time. And the
word I would use for you is effortless. You effortlessly
(18:12):
were able. And that's when you know someone can really sing,
Like Richard just opens his mouth and starts singing. Yes,
I was people who can sing. I'm always amazed some
people seem to struggle when they sing it it looks
like big effort. Like when Bruce Springsteen sings, it looks
like he's going to cough out along. Do you know what?
Prob Yeah, But you know when and when Elton John
(18:33):
used to sing when he was young, was just I
mean this, I don't know how they opened his mouth
this thing or sleep.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
So appreciate you putting me in the category.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Of all opens her mouth.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
And it's like, don't expect too much when you see it.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
You open your mouth and it just came out and
it was beautiful, and you know, you sexed it up
in a really charming kind of fun, girly, really charismatic way.
You've got to post it. You've got to post at
least clip it.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I mean, all I have to say is it was
so fun and it reminded me right.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
I love being on stage.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
You know.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I started in musical theater and I used to do
my own cabaret show and I had the fourteen piece
big band, and then I started in scripted TV and
all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
So it's really I have to say, and I have.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Talked about this over the last couple of years, like
on Housewives, although I'm ridiculed for that as we know,
and also on the podcast that moving back to la
has really opened me up to all these different things.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
I'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
But you know what's so interesting about life just in general,
it's like people you run into.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
People you meet, like like I was.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Telling you about Reado, So we've seen each other. Like
we saw her what like maybe six months ago. We
bumped a Dirrik Craigs with Eric Vitro by the way.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
And see it.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
It looks fantastic and so, you know, just seeing her
and having that conversation with her was very It meant
a lot to me.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
And we've been texting now whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
And you know someone else this is so random, but
not Christine Applegate, you know she is.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
So one of my very first jobs on television was
Unmarried with Children. They still play it. I still get
a check for like forty two cents all the time. Yeah, true,
it's like forty two cents. And the dress I wore
on that episode I bought and brought with me and
I gave it to Max and now.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Max has it.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
So I played one of Bud's fantasy girls. And what
I took away from that show, and I always say this,
is that Christina Applegate was like, I mean, the biggest celebrity,
so gorgeous, so fabulous, so on top of the game.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Could not have been nicer at a time where you know.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Women were very competitive and you know, in auditions on sets,
and it's so stuck with me, how wonderful she wasn't
to me, that set the bar the way women should
be on a set. So she has a book coming
out and in the spring, and she joined Instagram and
(21:09):
I noticed she started following me. So I messaged her
and I was like, hey, I know you'll never remember this,
but and I kind of recounted the story and she
immediately wrote me back, She's like, of course I remember,
and here's when. So we've been texting and now we're
no and I think we're gonna go. We're gonna go
of lunch.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
And she's so lovely, and I just, I mean, I
just feel like if you open yourself up to people,
the right people come in your life. I just find
that so interesting.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
So during your performance, I of course cried. I was trying.
I was trying not to show it to the people sitting.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Next to us, because sitting next to us was Rita
Wilson and Audrey McGraw, Tim Tim mcgrawn, Faith Hill's daughter,
who is, by the way, so stunning, and I listen
to she's got a gig coming up, by the way,
she wants us to come, okay, and so talented, and
what a lovely girl they have raised, such a nice kid.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Yeah, And so I was. I thought it was amazing,
and I I've forgotten how unbelievably cute it is, probably
enough or it's been like cute you are up there
and like the way you did your hand gestures and
the thing and you and oh my gosh, it's I thought.
You know. Of course, the idiot husband or relative would
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wanted to say to you, you should really do this,
You should be on Brunway. You should as if you
can just like to say, yeah, I'm just going to
do Broadway tomorrow. But John, thank you, thanks, thanks for
the het. Yeah, oh okay, but you should is the truth.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
So the pianist that Richard used for the gig he
had the I mean, the most fantastic band. The horns
were incredible, but the pianist was the legendary Randy Woolf,
who was is Orbis Dreysand's pianist and conductor for the
last thirty years. And I mean, how amazing to play
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with these guys. And then Randy is the one that
said to me, Wow, people don't usually sing the beginning
part of that song. I love it. It sounds so good.
He was so nice, and even if he didn't mean it,
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I love you, Randy.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yeah, it was great. How did it feel when you
came off?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I felt great.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
It was such a fun Like usually you're like, oh,
I can't wait to be on the other side of
this thing. I really I was excited sitting there waiting
to go up. I had a great time doing it.
But of course, like right after it was over, it's like, oh,
I wish I could do it again. Yeah, yeah, it
could have been better. Maybe I was flat right there,
I came in too soon. Whatever it was, but I
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think in general, I loved it. It was so so
fun and yeah, it sort of made me feel like
right right, And I think I need to do this
again in whatever capacity. But honestly, when I did that,
remember I did that music last year. Oh yeah, yeah,
it was a proof of concept for a musical. Shit
that Gal Julia asked, maybe.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
I mean that was so fun.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
I had a great time anyway, So enough about that.
So it was super fun. And then we ended up
going across the street with that whole group to Cavier
Caspia and we went to bed at three in the morning.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Who are we? And we took down the mini bar.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Good.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
I wonder what percent of people take down the minibar
back to their hotel slightly inebriated or more so can
not help the mini bar moment.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
In our defense, we did not eat dinner because I
can't eat before you know, like a performance like that,
so I didn't.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
We didn't eat dinner.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
And then we went to Kevin and you don't eat caviar,
and it was kind of like a late night menu,
so it wasn't really your vibe.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
So we didn't have like a lot of food. But
we went back to the hotel room.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Oh, took it down. Took it down, you know, opened
up every single It's.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Like, you know, you go up to the start doing this.
By the way, I was, everything's at a jar.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
I was sick to my stomach and still eate, incredibly
nauseous and and had to fight still at the very
end not opening up the M and ms. So I thought, well,
we all just have seven or eight of those.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
So we went to sleep at three am literally yeah,
and we got up at six forty five.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Oh, and then went to pop Up.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yep, we got up at six forty five in the morning,
took a quick showers, zip that ship up, and got
in the carcass. Pop Up Bagels opens at seven am.
So we went to pop Up Bagels. We got sesame.
You rip it, you dip it.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
In the shmer Oh my god, I was not even hungry.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
FYI.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Oh but what did we eat?
Speaker 3 (26:00):
We took it down.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
We took it down, and then we flew to Boston,
landed and we got duncan doing it.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Oh my god, Actually you got dunk I did not.
I had a coffee, You.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Had a cove. Yeah, I had an I needed a
bunch gets.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
You had two little donuts. By the way, I know, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
That's how I grew up.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Anyway, So we and we went into Boston, stayed at
the Newberry, which is my I mean literally one of
my favorite hotels anywhere. Yeah, I love the J Street
Bar downstairs. Charles the manager always takes care of us,
who I adore. They're food there.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Can I just go off on the food. Have we
talked about this point?
Speaker 1 (26:42):
They have the best pigs in the blanket you've ever
had in your Let listen to me.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
It is not it's the J Street Bar downstairs. It
is not a cocktail, Frank.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
It is a big fat dog thing that they not
really a dog that they have.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Caught with fresh homemade pastry around.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
It, with spicy mustard, and I'm going to tell you
it is homemade.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
The best pig in a blanket ever. Number one.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Number two they have homemade pasta there still at the
Jay Street Bark, the best homemade pasta ever. Slightly mushy,
my kind of vibe. And then the third thing is
the Club sandwich. Really sorry to say it is second
place to the George Sank in Paris. Yeah, but it
is still quite delicious. They put a fried egg on it.
It's the best. Love love, love, And.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
It was one of those perfect Boston ball days.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
The treeleaves were changing.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
You felt like singing Parsley Sage Ruth. I mean it
was just like, oh my god, it was like seventy three.
It was perfect, a cloud in the sky, every tree
was the color of New England.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
And then Max saunters in in like the cutest outfit ever.
She's got like a belted billowy thing on and sort
of like a cape vibe and boots and oh she
looks so cute.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
And then yet another dinner where I over ate.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
We went to sore Alina for dinner, great Italian place,
but we walked around, shopped a little bit. The three
of us took a nap together, which is the best
We got home dinner probably, but we the three of
us took a nap before dinner that was so delicious.
I mean, think of outlining with your almost twenty two
year old adult child in between. That she loved and
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we took the best nap and no kitty, no, the
cat was over Max's.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
You know what's so amazing is that Max.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
And we've talked about Max obviously before, and I've talked
about her on the show.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
She went from not knowing what she.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Wanted to do being you know, very having a lot
of anxiety and all of that. She came home from
studying abroad in Paris and had no idea what she
was going to do. And then cut to six months later,
she had an incredible internship. Alex Kazarian was the most
incredible mentor in her. She found a huge passion. She's
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now taking the l SAT, applying to law school, working
the DA's office. I mean, all of this incredible stuff.
And I'm telling you there is nothing like seeing your
child find their thing.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Funny, because I was did a success podcast the other
day in Search of Excellence, billionaire guy who interviews people
who are at the top of their industry. I don't
know why you interviewed me. Huh, all false modesty.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
I mean, the narcissism just doesn't And by the.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Way, if you want to see it's on YouTube in
Search of Excellence and Terry de Brone. It says the
most famous plastic surgeon in the world has had Did.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
You promote our pod on his?
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Uh? I'm sure I did cut it out. I'm sure
I did. I don't remember. Anyway, he asked me. You know,
it's all about how to be successful, secret suc success.
What I've learned, ye and you know, I said, I
think you have to be clever and bold. But the
best thing that can happen to you is for you
to run into a mentor. Yes, it inspires you. Yes,
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I'll let me just wrap this thing. As said, She
ran into a mentor the same way I ran into
a mentor my second year of medical school when mel Lesavoi,
professor came in and gave a lecture about plass reconstructor surgery.
The exact same thing happened to her in the summer.
She runs in this mentor and it changed the entire
direction her whole trajectory.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
It's so true.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Now she wants to be you know, DA and judge
and all that interesting great, which exactly what I would
have wanted to do had I knocked one into medicine.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
So the take home message for all your parents out there,
and this is really important, have your kids try everything.
I really think sometimes as parents, people try to pigeon
hold their kids into a thing. Okay, that's your sports,
that's your instrument, that's your subject.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
You're good at or whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
You're a creative, you're a mathematical, you're smart, you're a athletic.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Don't do that to your kids.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Let them try absolutely everything, because you never know what's
going to spark something in one of your kids, and
it might happen sooner for some kids later for another.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
And just as a last thing.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
There's conversations about whether people think college is necessary, and
what I would tell you is maybe not for everyone.
Maybe some people you know want to go to vocational
school or they want to go into the military. Obviously
there's different paths for everyone, but I would tell you
that for me, I think it's such a good way
station for kids that they get to just wallow around
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in a pool of peers, try things out, fail, succeed
a little bit, and see what sparks.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Your Okay, so you recommend college for everyone, I.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Think I think in general, if you don't know what
you want to do, I think it's a good idea.
I really do take and try things at every age.
Just keep trying things because you never you never know, yep,
never know. All right, Well, thanks so much for being
with us everybody. Oh and guess what we're doing a
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bonus episode that's coming out in the morning on Monday,
and it's gonna be about the reunion dresses.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Yeah, I said it.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
There it is, so stay tuned for that. Yes, you're gonna,
by the way, this one. Oh that hell that you're
gonna like this.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
I'll tell you why.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Reunion dresses.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yes, you're gonna like it. Tell me I'm gonna You're
gonna have to wait and hear why you're gonna like it.
You're gonna have to wait till Monday.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Oh I can't wait. Okay,
I'm Heather Dubrow, I'm Terry Row, and we're going to
keep this between us, but not really.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
We're back.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Oh you know what's weird. We got back and it's
like we never left. Well, were you jet lagged on
the way there?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Yes, weirdly, which I never get jet lagged?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Yeah, you know, I have to ask do you get
jet lagged on the way to the east coast of
the way back?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Usually it's west?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Yeah, right, Yes, we were a little funky jet lagged.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I thought about this.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I think it's because we'll see, usually whenever we go somewhere,
we immediately acclimate to the time.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
That's right, No naps.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
You gotta keep moving and.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Stay up as long as ye to get on their
real time. You gotta get on the real time.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yeah, and this was only east coast, so it was
only three hours so, which seems so silly to be
so jet lagged.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
But my thought process was we.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Were working so intensely and not sleeping for the three
weeks before we that's for sure that I think we
were so exhausted, and we're on a different time zone.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I just think it was all a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
But I got to tell everyone, we need to tell
everyone about this crazy trip.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Ah, you were amazing. Hey, you handled that was your trip.
That was all about you.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
But you were my passenger, princess.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I was. I came along. No, you were very good,
though I thought it was good. By the way, when
I asked you last night, was I good? You had
first said you were kind of so, so at first.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I said you were great, and then I went, well,
there was that one morning.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I don't actually remember that. Oh you mean, because you
wanted me to come along with you to the thing
day and I didn't want.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
But anyway, this is what happened.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
So we flew to the Bahamas because I had an
appearance to do, and we were in the Bahamas for
like four days, so right, thankfully before the hurricane. Yeah,
I think it's in Jamaica now. We were in the
Bahamas and it was so funny. So many of you
(01:58):
messaged us. May I just thank you, thank you for
telling us to not swim with the pigs, because I
was so gung ho about swimming with the pigs, like
this is going to be great. Terry's gonna love it.
He doesn't even know how much is going to love
it at all I got were a million messages about
how it's swimming.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
With the poop.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah, glad we didn't do that.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah, So I canceled it and we stayed at the
Four Seasons, which I have to say, their adult pool
is one of the loveliest pools I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah, And it landed into this garden, multi level garden
area like we'rely called Versailles, the Versailles Gardens, that's what
they called it.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
To me, it looked like Balie. It was very lush,
so oh so.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
The pool was so pretty exceptionally nice for the peep
for the people who had to hang on.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
There was one couple, there was family. There was one family.
First the first day we went to the beach. Beautiful,
soft sand, gorgeous water, but it was very windy because
of this pending hurricane Hurricane Is. I was called yeah
coming in so because it was so windy, the water
was robbing. It was open, and I'm like, oh my gosh,
I love the Caribbean.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
The water is so clear and you can walk wherever.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
We got it and I almost drowned in like the
first two and ies I'm like, we're leaving.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah, And then there was that group next to us,
and the guy was on the phone. It reminded me
of our honeymoon. That guy was right next to us
at the pool talking about he was obviously a stockbroker
or a final so loudly. This guy was like non
stop talking on the phone.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
This guy had his air pods in and his phone
on FaceTime and he was speaking so loudly.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
We get at the beach, it was loud.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Everywhere we go. We seem to get there, we.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Get the loud talk in front of us. So you
know what, we always bring a little speaker. Yeah, drowns
him out.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
No one can hear our music.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
But it's you know, we get ambient music. So that's
really nice. But it was just I have to say
like it was. We took a walk on the beach,
but I forgot to say I pulled my back out
the day before we left. I remember I was saying,
was it last week? On the pot I was saying,
or no, no, because we did a little pod from
the Bahamas.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I had a lot of comments on.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
The show this year about how I've tried every drug
in Amsterdam.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I know you're you let loose.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
You know what I didn't do in Amsterdam drink alcohol. Yeah,
not one drop. I smoked pot I did trooms.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, no alcohol. So the Bahamas have never been there.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I was there once therese thirteen on it.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
There's very good weather, a little humid.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
I'm going to tell you the the Bahamian people are
soorry the loveliest people. Everyone is so nice, so happy. Yeah,
so great the staff there. And by the way, so
there was a martini bar at the Four Seasons. It's
where they filmed James Bond with Daniel Craig. Daniel Craig
one of the movies they filmed there in the Bahamas
(04:45):
at the Four Seasons, And there's a martini bar and
they have like a shelf with photos with all famous
people from the Bahamas, like Sydney Poitier, and then they
have Daniel Craig's photo there. And there's this bartender named Felix.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Yeah, who is l Yx.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yes, but he's like the third Felix in his family,
but he is spelled differently anyway, Yes, I digress. But
Felix is tall and so handsome and makes the best
espresso martini I've ever had in my life.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yeah, you had a.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Q cumber of martini.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I did, I did? I really did, because normally it
has to be slightly dirty. I usually ordered my Martes
the following way. And you have to mention on the
rocks twice, you say, Greg, goose Martini on the rocks,
on the rocks, because invariable, if you don't say it
twice or emphasize it, it won't come on the road. They'll
for for some reason, forget that and I go slightly
(05:34):
dirty like my wife.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
He used to say, I would like it on the
rocks like my marriage, which I think is hilarious.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
But you you nix that one that I thought that
one was very funny.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
That was funny anyway.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
So Felix made our drinks, we hung out, we met,
and we met really nice people while we were there,
and one night we were at NOBU and the couple
next to us got engaged and.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
It was great. It was a really it was a
very good trip.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
But I was working while I was there, so it
was like a little work, a little pool time, a
little work, a little pool time, and of course my
back no bueno at all, so I didn't get to
work out at all.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
But we did slept relaxed.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
We tried to have hotel sex, but the back. Uh,
the great limiting factor.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
It happens. Okay, So then we flew from there to
New York.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Oh that was you.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
That was crazy. We were in New York for less
than a day.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
You were truly and I know people might think, oh,
because you're her husband, you love her. You were truly
amazing on stage. You did a performance.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Well, let me explain so some people, if they haven't
caught up.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
So what happened was Richard Marx, who you know is
a dear friend of ours, is a new album coming
out in January, and it's all standards and new songs
that he's written in the way of old standards, and
it's so good.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
It's just fantastic.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
And I years ago used to be the lead singer
for a fourteen piece big band that I toured with
for years, and so when he was doing this album,
I was so tickled. And then he got this residency
at the carp Pile for a week in New York,
which is an iconic place to perform like cabaret ish,
and so he asked me to do a song with
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him because he was having a lot of people come
up and do songs each night.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
So Hugh Jackman had been there.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
He had a comedian come up the night I was there,
Rita Wilson, who I've known for many years, who is
so fantastic, and Shelley Wright, who I didn't know and
I'm now obsessed with. Also, she's incredible country music singer.
She was there, and so I knew I was going
to do this thing, and you know, I haven't performed
(07:48):
publicly in some times, so of course I go to
Eric Vitro, who's the best who I've known since I
was like twenty two. Is everyone's vocal coach. But Eric
does everyone. He does Arita Grande and Camilicab and he
does literally everyone on the planet.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
And I saw John Stainless when you were there.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
The last time I was there.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
He was a singer. I know he played drums at
the beach.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yah he sings too. But the last time I was there,
I saw John. And it's funny because John and Richard
are friends, and so Eric was.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Like, why are you here? And we're talking John's ever hanging.
I go and I looked a John.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I'm like, oh, I'm going to sing with Richard and
he was like, oh, I wanted to go, but I
can't because or whatever, he's so nice.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
What is with these guys who have great hair? Hair?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
That's so funny that you say that.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Because so we took a picture together and I sent
it to Richard and I was like, oh, look, co,
I'm with you know whatever, blah blah blah, and Richard goes,
as John's walking out, Richard goes, tell him me, he's
having a bad hair day.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
So we flew into New York and I was like,
you know, nervous, excited, but not nervous crazy.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Nervous doesn't seem nervous, right, No.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
And so Terry didn't want to hear it until.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
I didn't want to see the rehearsal or the what
did you call that? The working sound check? Soundcheck? I
don't see that because I didn't know exactly what you
were singing, and I want to see it and all
it's fun.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah, No, I totally got sory. So we got into
the hotel, checked in, went to our room, and I
realized I was gonna go downstairs for the sound check
in sweats and no makeup, because you know me, I'm
either no makeup or a full beat. There's no in
between for me. So I remembered that I was meeting
up with the incredible Max Cohen to film right after
(09:28):
the soundcheck, and so I had to put makeup on.
I was completely unshowered and my hair like it was fine,
so I put a makeup. So Max Cohen had his
Instagram hand TikTok. Handle is a Murray hillboy. He is
so funny. You met him in New York. He's so charming,
and he's this Jewish you know, Long Islander and he
(09:52):
plays Lisa Cohen and from five Towns and does this all.
He's so funny, he plays all the characters and he's amazing.
So we've came Instagram friends. And then I had an
event in New York at the beginning of the Housewife
season that he came.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
To and whatever.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
So he texted me randomly a week ago and said, Hey,
are you going to be in New York anytime soon?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Really want to do something with you.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I go, I'm in New York for like eight hours. Here,
I have this hour for you. He goes, I'm it.
So I went downstairs, did my soundcheck with Richard ran
into Rita Wilson. Oh my god, love her so much.
We sang at this thing together, like twenty five years ago.
Twenty years ago, I don't remember, and we have sort
of bit acquaintances, but we got to really hang out
(10:37):
when we were in New York this time. My gosh,
she is so inspiring and so amazing.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
And I told her.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
When we were having dinner after the gig, I said,
I'm sure you won't remember this, but one time we ran.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Into each other.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I don't remember, fifteen years ago or something, when you
told me that you were going to start singing. And
she goes, oh, I remember that, she said, because I
thought in my fifties, like, is this okay?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I'm starting this whole new career.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
And I said, and look, you've killed it. Just all
these albums. She writes her own music. She's performing at
the Grand Opry. Like, I just think she's so inspirational
and so talented. I just love spending time with her. Anyways,
so we did the soundtrack.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
It's amazing. Guys, actually have so much in common me
and Rita.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah, because we both have fabulous husbands.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
This is all coming back to you. You're such a narcissist.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
You're my mother.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Is her husband again? What's the guys? Oh right, No,
I know that. I'm just kidding. By the way, Tom Hanks.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
He's doing yes and he's doing out lifts without lifts.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Hate him too.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I mean at this point we don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
No Tom Hanks is talking. Everybody sees Tom Hanks the
first thing they think, they think he's going to be
like a Tom Cruise, right, and they're like, you're just
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Speaker 1 (13:13):
Went upstairs, finally took a shower, tried to keep my
makeup on and just washed my hair, and Valerie came
over and did my hair and juged myself and we
went up to Richard and Daisy's suite, had a drink
and Daisy's sister Rowe and her husband Bernie were there,
who we love, and we had all been to Croatia together,
(13:35):
so that was so fun, and they had their boys
with them. We finally got to meet them, and then
we met Shelley Wright, who is a number one country
recording artist and she's just incredible, loved meeting her, and.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Then we went down to the gig.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
And here's what's so crazy, Okay, so listen, I got
to tell you something, all right. Richard and Daisy and
Terry and I have been friends, I mean over a
decade long time, and we travel together and we do
all the things together. But if I could take myself
out of that moment and just tell you what my
eighties heart did right before going on stage, thinking if
(14:14):
you had told me all those years ago that this
man that I idolized his music, that I would be performing
a song with him at the Carlisle, being a girl
from New York and starting a musical theater in cabaret
and all of that. Singing at the Carlisle with Richard
Marx like I could, and I really all I thought was,
(14:38):
I am just going to enjoy this. I Am just
going Who cares what the result is? Some of it
will probably be clunky. We rehearsed at once. The key's
too low for him, poor thing. He was singing in
my key or whatever, and I was like, I'm just
I'm so excited. I'm just going to have a great time.
And I didn't invite anyone on purpose, because I just
didn't want it to be about I just wanted it
(15:01):
to be for me.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Right, So you hadn't heard it at all? What you
hadn't heard it at all?
Speaker 3 (15:06):
I hadn't heard it. No, And I've heard you sing
that type of music before. But and I know you've
sort of cut your teeth on that kind of music.
That's sort of fifty Sinatra Dean Martin kind of stuff.
But that was so first of all, you were just
that you looked great.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
He's my husband.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Yeah, I'm your husband, but you know what as your
husband weirdly, and I'm sure a lot of a lot
of other husbands. Certainly parents I don't know about you.
I see the the non good stuff immediately.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
You were not grandparents.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Parents.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
We know young parents are like.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Oh my god, isn't she gorgeous? And you're like, no,
she has four teeth and half ahead of hair. It's
but it's true, like so many people like they think
their kids are so talented or they think they're sports stars.
We were never like that. No, We've always been very
realistic about our kids. Like when they're good at something
I'm in and when they're not, Yeah, they're not that good.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
So you got up there.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Not everyone's a genius.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Yeah, you got out there. I love what you're wearing.
It's really cute sort of suit kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
So I was wearing in Hell.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
We always talk about our friend David Hyle, who owns
David August Clothing, who makes all the men's clothes, who
makes Terry's clothes. So his daughter, Blaze has this company,
Blaze Caprice, and she makes clothes also, and she makes this.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Little tuxedo short dress. She gave it to me. I mean, Mike, oh,
five six years ago.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I mean I bought it. I'm saying, but whatever, I
bought it from her five six years ago. I've worn
it so many times. It's so adorable. And again, we
were working so much. Right before we left. I had
a whole other outfit picked out for the Bahamas, for this,
for the that, and then I started putting everything together.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
And I was like, that doesn't work. So I just
threw that in at the last second.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
So you go up there, and then you have to
obviously engage into that in that sort of little pattern
that rep Barte or whatever it's called. And your guys
were so cute together, and you know, Richard. You know
that's what it means for a charming Oh my gosh.
And so then you started the song and I don't know,
was that starting part of the song?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yes, so we sang the Lady is a Tramp.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah, but there's a pre verse to the song and
that most people don't usually do, right, And so I
heard it, and this the only thing I was sort
of like proud of myself is that I went outside
my comfort zone because I've sung Ladies a Tramp before,
not exactly like this version, not in that key, whatever,
(17:39):
but I had done that before, and I thought, boy,
that beginning part is so cool. I think I'm just
going to learn that and sing that too.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Yeah. That was. And then so but you changed it.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I did, Well, you're gonna have to wait for the
reveal of that. I'm gonna put it on my answer your.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Credit in context and to make it relevant to this
part of your life. Very funny, very very unexpected. And
then you started to sing the song and I got okay.
I thought to myself, well, she hasn't really been up
here singing like this for a long time. And the
word I would use for you is effortless. You effortlessly
(18:12):
were able. And that's when you know someone can really sing,
Like Richard just opens his mouth and starts singing. Yes,
I was people who can sing. I'm always amazed some
people seem to struggle when they sing it it looks
like big effort. Like when Bruce Springsteen sings, it looks
like he's going to cough out along. Do you know what?
Prob Yeah, But you know when and when Elton John
(18:33):
used to sing when he was young, was just I
mean this, I don't know how they opened his mouth
this thing or sleep.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
So appreciate you putting me in the category.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Of all opens her mouth.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
And it's like, don't expect too much when you see it.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
You open your mouth and it just came out and
it was beautiful, and you know, you sexed it up
in a really charming kind of fun, girly, really charismatic way.
You've got to post it. You've got to post at
least clip it.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I mean, all I have to say is it was
so fun and it reminded me right.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
I love being on stage.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
You know.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I started in musical theater and I used to do
my own cabaret show and I had the fourteen piece
big band, and then I started in scripted TV and
all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
So it's really I have to say, and I have.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Talked about this over the last couple of years, like
on Housewives, although I'm ridiculed for that as we know,
and also on the podcast that moving back to la
has really opened me up to all these different things.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
I'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
But you know what's so interesting about life just in general,
it's like people you run into.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
People you meet, like like I was.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Telling you about Reado, So we've seen each other. Like
we saw her what like maybe six months ago. We
bumped a Dirrik Craigs with Eric Vitro by the way.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
And see it.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
It looks fantastic and so, you know, just seeing her
and having that conversation with her was very It meant
a lot to me.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
And we've been texting now whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
And you know someone else this is so random, but
not Christine Applegate, you know she is.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
So one of my very first jobs on television was
Unmarried with Children. They still play it. I still get
a check for like forty two cents all the time. Yeah, true,
it's like forty two cents. And the dress I wore
on that episode I bought and brought with me and
I gave it to Max and now.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Max has it.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
So I played one of Bud's fantasy girls. And what
I took away from that show, and I always say this,
is that Christina Applegate was like, I mean, the biggest celebrity,
so gorgeous, so fabulous, so on top of the game.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Could not have been nicer at a time where you know.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Women were very competitive and you know, in auditions on sets,
and it's so stuck with me, how wonderful she wasn't
to me, that set the bar the way women should
be on a set. So she has a book coming
out and in the spring, and she joined Instagram and
(21:09):
I noticed she started following me. So I messaged her
and I was like, hey, I know you'll never remember this,
but and I kind of recounted the story and she
immediately wrote me back, She's like, of course I remember,
and here's when. So we've been texting and now we're
no and I think we're gonna go. We're gonna go
of lunch.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
And she's so lovely, and I just, I mean, I
just feel like if you open yourself up to people,
the right people come in your life. I just find
that so interesting.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
So during your performance, I of course cried. I was trying.
I was trying not to show it to the people sitting.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Next to us, because sitting next to us was Rita
Wilson and Audrey McGraw, Tim Tim mcgrawn, Faith Hill's daughter,
who is, by the way, so stunning, and I listen
to she's got a gig coming up, by the way,
she wants us to come, okay, and so talented, and
what a lovely girl they have raised, such a nice kid.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Yeah, And so I was. I thought it was amazing,
and I I've forgotten how unbelievably cute it is, probably
enough or it's been like cute you are up there
and like the way you did your hand gestures and
the thing and you and oh my gosh, it's I thought.
You know. Of course, the idiot husband or relative would
(22:33):
wanted to say to you, you should really do this,
You should be on Brunway. You should as if you
can just like to say, yeah, I'm just going to
do Broadway tomorrow. But John, thank you, thanks, thanks for
the het. Yeah, oh okay, but you should is the truth.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
So the pianist that Richard used for the gig he
had the I mean, the most fantastic band. The horns
were incredible, but the pianist was the legendary Randy Woolf,
who was is Orbis Dreysand's pianist and conductor for the
last thirty years. And I mean, how amazing to play
(23:07):
with these guys. And then Randy is the one that
said to me, Wow, people don't usually sing the beginning
part of that song. I love it. It sounds so good.
He was so nice, and even if he didn't mean it,
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I love you, Randy.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yeah, it was great. How did it feel when you
came off?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I felt great.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
It was such a fun Like usually you're like, oh,
I can't wait to be on the other side of
this thing. I really I was excited sitting there waiting
to go up. I had a great time doing it.
But of course, like right after it was over, it's like, oh,
I wish I could do it again. Yeah, yeah, it
could have been better. Maybe I was flat right there,
I came in too soon. Whatever it was, but I
(23:45):
think in general, I loved it. It was so so
fun and yeah, it sort of made me feel like
right right, And I think I need to do this
again in whatever capacity. But honestly, when I did that,
remember I did that music last year. Oh yeah, yeah,
it was a proof of concept for a musical. Shit
that Gal Julia asked, maybe.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
I mean that was so fun.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
I had a great time anyway, So enough about that.
So it was super fun. And then we ended up
going across the street with that whole group to Cavier
Caspia and we went to bed at three in the morning.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Who are we? And we took down the mini bar.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Good.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
I wonder what percent of people take down the minibar
back to their hotel slightly inebriated or more so can
not help the mini bar moment.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
In our defense, we did not eat dinner because I
can't eat before you know, like a performance like that,
so I didn't.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
We didn't eat dinner.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
And then we went to Kevin and you don't eat caviar,
and it was kind of like a late night menu,
so it wasn't really your vibe.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
So we didn't have like a lot of food. But
we went back to the hotel room.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Oh, took it down. Took it down, you know, opened
up every single It's.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Like, you know, you go up to the start doing this.
By the way, I was, everything's at a jar.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
I was sick to my stomach and still eate, incredibly
nauseous and and had to fight still at the very
end not opening up the M and ms. So I thought, well,
we all just have seven or eight of those.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
So we went to sleep at three am literally yeah,
and we got up at six forty five.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Oh, and then went to pop Up.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yep, we got up at six forty five in the morning,
took a quick showers, zip that ship up, and got
in the carcass. Pop Up Bagels opens at seven am.
So we went to pop Up Bagels. We got sesame.
You rip it, you dip it.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
In the shmer Oh my god, I was not even hungry.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
FYI.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Oh but what did we eat?
Speaker 3 (26:00):
We took it down.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
We took it down, and then we flew to Boston,
landed and we got duncan doing it.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Oh my god, Actually you got dunk I did not.
I had a coffee, You.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Had a cove. Yeah, I had an I needed a
bunch gets.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
You had two little donuts. By the way, I know, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
That's how I grew up.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Anyway, So we and we went into Boston, stayed at
the Newberry, which is my I mean literally one of
my favorite hotels anywhere. Yeah, I love the J Street
Bar downstairs. Charles the manager always takes care of us,
who I adore. They're food there.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Can I just go off on the food. Have we
talked about this point?
Speaker 1 (26:42):
They have the best pigs in the blanket you've ever
had in your Let listen to me.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
It is not it's the J Street Bar downstairs. It
is not a cocktail, Frank.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
It is a big fat dog thing that they not
really a dog that they have.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Caught with fresh homemade pastry around.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
It, with spicy mustard, and I'm going to tell you
it is homemade.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
The best pig in a blanket ever. Number one.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Number two they have homemade pasta there still at the
Jay Street Bark, the best homemade pasta ever. Slightly mushy,
my kind of vibe. And then the third thing is
the Club sandwich. Really sorry to say it is second
place to the George Sank in Paris. Yeah, but it
is still quite delicious. They put a fried egg on it.
It's the best. Love love, love, And.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
It was one of those perfect Boston ball days.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
The treeleaves were changing.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
You felt like singing Parsley Sage Ruth. I mean it
was just like, oh my god, it was like seventy three.
It was perfect, a cloud in the sky, every tree
was the color of New England.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
And then Max saunters in in like the cutest outfit ever.
She's got like a belted billowy thing on and sort
of like a cape vibe and boots and oh she
looks so cute.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
And then yet another dinner where I over ate.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
We went to sore Alina for dinner, great Italian place,
but we walked around, shopped a little bit. The three
of us took a nap together, which is the best
We got home dinner probably, but we the three of
us took a nap before dinner that was so delicious.
I mean, think of outlining with your almost twenty two
year old adult child in between. That she loved and
(28:32):
we took the best nap and no kitty, no, the
cat was over Max's.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
You know what's so amazing is that Max.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
And we've talked about Max obviously before, and I've talked
about her on the show.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
She went from not knowing what she.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Wanted to do being you know, very having a lot
of anxiety and all of that. She came home from
studying abroad in Paris and had no idea what she
was going to do. And then cut to six months later,
she had an incredible internship. Alex Kazarian was the most
incredible mentor in her. She found a huge passion. She's
(29:10):
now taking the l SAT, applying to law school, working
the DA's office. I mean, all of this incredible stuff.
And I'm telling you there is nothing like seeing your
child find their thing.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Funny, because I was did a success podcast the other
day in Search of Excellence, billionaire guy who interviews people
who are at the top of their industry. I don't
know why you interviewed me. Huh, all false modesty.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
I mean, the narcissism just doesn't And by the.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Way, if you want to see it's on YouTube in
Search of Excellence and Terry de Brone. It says the
most famous plastic surgeon in the world has had Did.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
You promote our pod on his?
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Uh? I'm sure I did cut it out. I'm sure
I did. I don't remember. Anyway, he asked me. You know,
it's all about how to be successful, secret suc success.
What I've learned, ye and you know, I said, I
think you have to be clever and bold. But the
best thing that can happen to you is for you
to run into a mentor. Yes, it inspires you. Yes,
(30:16):
I'll let me just wrap this thing. As said, She
ran into a mentor the same way I ran into
a mentor my second year of medical school when mel Lesavoi,
professor came in and gave a lecture about plass reconstructor surgery.
The exact same thing happened to her in the summer.
She runs in this mentor and it changed the entire
direction her whole trajectory.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
It's so true.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Now she wants to be you know, DA and judge
and all that interesting great, which exactly what I would
have wanted to do had I knocked one into medicine.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
So the take home message for all your parents out there,
and this is really important, have your kids try everything.
I really think sometimes as parents, people try to pigeon
hold their kids into a thing. Okay, that's your sports,
that's your instrument, that's your subject.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
You're good at or whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
You're a creative, you're a mathematical, you're smart, you're a athletic.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Don't do that to your kids.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Let them try absolutely everything, because you never know what's
going to spark something in one of your kids, and
it might happen sooner for some kids later for another.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
And just as a last thing.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
There's conversations about whether people think college is necessary, and
what I would tell you is maybe not for everyone.
Maybe some people you know want to go to vocational
school or they want to go into the military. Obviously
there's different paths for everyone, but I would tell you
that for me, I think it's such a good way
station for kids that they get to just wallow around
(31:52):
in a pool of peers, try things out, fail, succeed
a little bit, and see what sparks.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Your Okay, so you recommend college for everyone, I.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Think I think in general, if you don't know what
you want to do, I think it's a good idea.
I really do take and try things at every age.
Just keep trying things because you never you never know, yep,
never know. All right, Well, thanks so much for being
with us everybody. Oh and guess what we're doing a
(32:23):
bonus episode that's coming out in the morning on Monday,
and it's gonna be about the reunion dresses.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Yeah, I said it.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
There it is, so stay tuned for that. Yes, you're gonna,
by the way, this one. Oh that hell that you're
gonna like this.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
I'll tell you why.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Reunion dresses.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yes, you're gonna like it. Tell me I'm gonna You're
gonna have to wait and hear why you're gonna like it.
You're gonna have to wait till Monday.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Oh I can't wait. Okay,
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