February 8, 2025 • 29 mins
Ramses Ja and Q Ward discuss the NFL's decision to remove the "End Racism" signage from the goal posts for the final game of the year.
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is the Black Information Network Daily podcast, and I'm
your host, Ramsey's Jah And sometimes the amount of stories
that make their way to us means that we simply
can't cover everything that comes our way. But from time
to time, a story just stays with me and Bill
compelled to share it with you and give you my thoughts.
And now one more thing.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Keith Oberman drops f bomb in reaction to the NFL
ditching end racism phrase and the end zones for the
Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
That's from Fox News.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I mean, we could read the article, but I'm still
stuck at ditching end racism because I think we both
understand their why and I just think that's flatly unacceptable.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
So the short of it is that, and correct me
if I'm wrong, because I'm not a NFL person or
a sportsperson. But they had signage up on the football
field that said end racism, and that has been the
case for a few years now.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, since twenty twenty one. So after the summer of
reckoning the NFL. Along with the team names, the logos,
and the yard markers that are painted on the field,
they've also had stinseled on each end zone end racism
and several other messages for social justice initiatives, but in
(01:50):
racism being most prominent. In the last Super Bowl, the
Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs had in racism in
their end zone, which is this for those who are
not sports fan. The end zone is where the touchdowns happen,
so that there's a lot of camera attention on the
end zones, which is why that was the area where
they chose to put that message in. Okay, and here
(02:14):
we are as the end the NFL is simultaneously doubling
down on their DEI efforts while also removing in racism
from the field.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
So explain that to me. Doubling down on their DEI efforts.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
So we've seen.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Dozens of corporations roll back DEI initiatives, roll back DEI programming,
roll back any DEI you know, literature or information from
their websites. The NFL has done no such thing and
has come out publicly and said they they don't plan to.
They understand that their league wouldn't exist without diversity. Their
(02:54):
league is better because of diversity. Sure, they make it,
and they think that they're making that impression on the
public at large, so they won't be pressured into doing
away with DEI. They weren't pressured into doing it in
the first place, is what they want to argue. They
just realized that everything's better with diversity, equity, and inclusion.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Sure, so why would they change the language in the
end zone from end racism? Because I would imagine that
would be a sentiment that would be pretty universal and
would be necessary until such a time in humanity as
(03:35):
there is no longer a such thing as racism.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I'm going to read you this quote from the Commissioner,
and then I'm going to get into my thoughts as
to why they would make such a radical change in
light of these quotes. We got into diversity efforts because
we felt like it was the right thing for the
National Football League, and we're going to continue those efforts
because we've only we've not only convinced ourselves, we've proven
(03:58):
ourselves that it us make the NFL better. We're not
in this because it's a trend, and we're not going
to get in or out of it because it's a trend.
Our efforts are fundamental in trying to attract the best
possible talent in the National Football League, both on and
(04:19):
off the field. As I said, previously. We see that,
we see how it benefits the NFL, and so I
think will continue those efforts. That is a quote from
the commissioner of the National Football League.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
That's like the boss, right.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yeah, the commissioner. So the NFL people think is a
singular organization, it's really an umbrella for thirty two separate.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Organizations, a sort of not a sort of a league.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Of billionaire owners who all of their teams participate in
the league. So the league is made up of all
of those owners working together. Their business support one another,
but they are simultaneously in competition with one another for
fans dollars, for television deals, for attention, for merchandise, et cetera.
(05:11):
So the commissioner represents the collective interest of all thirty
two owners.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Okay, so he's their employee.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
You think of him as the boss because he's positioned
that way, but he's really an employee of all thirty
two owners. He has to answer to them. He doesn't
get to make unilateral decisions. They can fire him if
they felt like it. Oh okay, So yeah, man, it's
an interesting place.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
But he's still someone who has he speaks for the Okay, yes,
so him saying that he's not going to abandon the
DEI efforts for the league is theoretically a good thing. Yes,
until we see this article from Fox News that says
that they're changing the signage from the end zone.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, and they would argue that that has that those
two things have nothing to do with each other. And
if you were gullible or just wanted to believe that,
you'd agree with them until you realize that the forty
fifth and forty seventh president of the United States will
be attending the game, and then you realize words like
end racism might make him uncomfortable. And then once you
(06:20):
ask yourself that question out loud, because the headline of
this article, let me go back, Keith Oberman drops F
bomb in reaction to the NFL ditching end racism phrase
and end.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Zones for the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I'm going to read the article now a common occurrence
in NFL end zones over the last four plus years.
The end racism message will not appear in the end
zones during the Super Bowl. The Super Bowl the largest
television product in the United States by a lot. The
biggest stage that the NFL can be on is when
they decide to stop putting in racism on the field.
(06:56):
This trend began in twenty twenty NFL opener after in
the United States. NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy told The Atlantic
on Tuesday, the league will go a different route, and
we'd have to ask ourselves why, ramsays, what has improved
so much that we should stop the end racism effort.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I'd argue that it's worse.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I'd argue that it's worse as well. Instead, the NFL
end zones at the super Bowl on Sunday will feature
the phrases choose love and it takes all of us.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Oh, so they just took the teeth out of the
end zone for the Super Bowl, not for the whole season,
just for the benefit or for the sensibilities of Donald Trump,
who will be in attendance. So he's basically ignoring all
of the black people and brown people who suffer under
(07:47):
systemic oppression, white supremacy, and indeed a racist country so
that he can meet the sensibilities of the head racist
in charge.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I'm gonna tell you something worse. They're a mask this cowardice.
They are masking this bending of the need to the
head racist in charge to an idea of support for
those who just suffered in the wildfires in La.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Choose Love.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
McCarthy cited the recent tragedies that have occurred in the
US since the start of twenty twenty five, including the
terror attack in New Orleans, wildfires in Los Angeles area,
and the deadly plane crash near Washington, DC. The NFL's
decision was not taken kindly by former ESPN analyst and
political commentator Keith Oberman. He said on Twitter on Tuesday,
(08:37):
I quote, guess what, NFL, If you're against stop racism,
that means you're for racism. Expletive you and every one
of your advertisers. End racism was only seen during the
NFC Championship game against the Eagles and the Washington Commanders,
(09:02):
and the AFC Championship game where the Chiefs beat the
Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Okay, hold on one second. So he's trying to say
choose love and it takes all of us? Are the
slogans meant to address the wildfires, the plane crash, and
the terror attack in New Orleans. Now, if he said
(09:29):
just a terror attack in New Orleans, I could see
that as being plausible. Let me tell you what I
know it's not, but I could see, for his purposes.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Have tangible evidence as to why that's.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Well, I know it's not the case, but but we
know it's not the case in the way that we just.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
If somebody it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, we know it's not the case because we have
good logic and sound reasons. Yeah, yeah, I'm talking about
I know it's not the case. As fact, the Philadelphia
Eagles played the Washington Manders last week and in racism
was in their end zone, and the end zones of
the Kansas City Chiefs and the Buffalo Bills were choose
love and it takes us all or it takes all
(10:11):
of us, and the Super Bowl last year and the
Kansas City Chiefs end zone was in racism and in
multiple in zones across the league. So trying to co
opt phrases you were already using and trying to determine
that the reason you're using them now is because of
these tragedies that have happened is cowardice and intellectually dishonest.
But they know that they can get that over on
(10:33):
their proud to be an American fan base. They know
they can justify removing in racism because those people, just
like the head racist in charge, are uncomfortable with the
idea of ending racism. They'd rather pretend that we live
in a non racist country, like we saw several black
politicians say as they were on the campaign trail for
(10:54):
the head racist in charge, it's.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
A really interesting ploy.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I just decided that I'm not watching the NFL Super
Bowl this year.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Okay, I'll join you, And I don't care about it.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Why that's not a big deal for me, who played
football from five years old, played college football, and it
has been my favorite sport my whole life. I stopped
watching when they made it impossible for Colin Kaepernick to
get a job, and too much time passed and I
got over it, like most of the country, unfortunately, and
(11:28):
I started watching again. And it's a really complicated position
to take because they make a thousand black men millionaires
a year, you know what I mean, Like that's and
maybe that numbers two hides, you know, thirty teams, thirty
two teams by fifty something players.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
So yeah, at numbers far too high.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
But they've created thousands of black millionaires. And it's complicated,
right you you blackball Colin Kaepernick, and then you roll
(12:09):
out all these social justice initiatives to apologize to the
fans that spend all the money while not apologizing to
the player that you blackball for simply saying police killing
unarmed black people is wrong.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
And then you do this end zone thing so that
Donald Trump could be comfortable, but you're platforming Kendrick Lamar.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
You get what I'm saying. Complicated, it's hard to not
support Kendrick. It's hard to not root for Kendrick. It's
not hard. It's hard to not root for jay Z,
who they have a partnership with, who's been as you've noticed,
very very black on his choices for NFL Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
We'll watch this. It's hard for some people. It's complicated
for some people. For me, it's never been that hard.
It feels like they're trying to walk a line, and well, no,
I can't say that because I've had to walk the
line myself. But I find for the most part, then
(13:05):
when it comes to things that are this important, some
things that are this meaningful, some things where you know
objectively right from wrong, and these are like the way
history records moments like this is either you're on the
right side of history or you're on the wrong side
of history, and being on the right side of history,
make no mistake, is wildly uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
And the interesting thing about walking the line, people that
are walking the line are on the wrong side.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
That's where I was going when you're not. Actually, you
just want to appear to be decent, right, right, So
watch this. When it comes to something of this magnitude,
it is much easier for a person like me to
be wildly uncomfortable and just be on the right side
of history, even if the majority opposes me. Listen, I've
been in rooms full of people who were all wrong
(13:57):
and I've just had to be the person who was
right until such a time as they figured it out.
And you feel stupid and you feel humiliated, and everybody
thinks they got one off over you start to doubt
your something.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
But no, this isn't one of the cases where it
feels uncomfortable though. This isn't This isn't from a lack
of comfort. This is from actual conflict, right, They're doing
conflicting actions. Yeah, this is performing Kendrick Lamar on the
largest stage in America as well, got Drake, Well, this
is the thing. The fiscal decision would have supported getting Drake.
(14:31):
Drake has been a fiscally far more successful artist than
Kendrick Lamar. He's a far more popular artist than Kendrick Lamar.
He's a far more digestible artist than Kendrick Lamar. He's
just not better, and choosing Kendrick who's not just better,
but exclamation point dark, navy black black. I don't even
(14:54):
know if navy black is a color, but navan navy
blue is very dark blue. So navy black, I feel like,
is like midnight in Mississippi under the trees black.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
I know that black.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I was there with a very pronounced, very pro black message.
They know that, and they still chose Kendrick Lamar. So
when I say it's complicated, I mean it. The richest
person in the history of the NFL is black, you
know what I mean, the most the highest paid person
in an NFL right now is black. The organization or
(15:26):
the league, the entertainment property that has created the most
black wealth isn't music, isn't the NBA, It's the NFL.
They just employ more black people now on the highest levels.
They don't though, right so they won't. None of the
owners are black. You know, there's a great discrepancy in
the general managers. There's a greater discrepancy in the head coaches.
(15:49):
For a long time, there was a massive discrepancy in quarterbacks,
the most important position in the game, because they determined
we weren't smart enough to play that role. So you're
watching this league that black bought up a black man
for taking a knee, not even for taking a stand.
The irony in that language, the most humble position you
(16:10):
could take on your knee. They tried to. They didn't
try to. They made that disrespectful.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
So when I say it's complicated, it's not because it's
not comfortable that I turned the TV off, pardon the pun.
For years, it wasn't uncomfortable at all. No, I'd like
to worry about my favorite sport. Ever, Colin Kaeperniga got
black while I was done. Just too much time passed,
same argument I made when we were talking about, you know,
our position as black people during the election. Too much
time has passed since life was hell for us, and
(16:42):
we've gotten just comfortable enough to have the privilege of
feeling like we can just not participate, or we can
be contrarian and stand with the other side. Because we
got a couple of dollars in air conditioning, and we
can walk into the restaurant where white people are eating
and sit down. It's gotten too comfortable. So just too
much time went by, and I just found myself one
day back in front of a TV watching football, and
(17:03):
this just reminded me that when when when faced with
which side of the line to stand on, they toe
the line.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
They walk the line.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Unfortunately you have to be on the wrong side of
it to do that.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah, I just I don't understand why everybody's so scared
to go all in, especially a league like this thing.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
The thing that troubles me the most rams is that
people are so afraid of him, like people who should
laugh at him, like you're bully man. If you don't
sit down, Do you want to come to the game
or not. If you want to come, we'll get you
some tickets and some popcorn and all that. But we're
not changing how we do things.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Who are you?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
And you're going to be here for four years or
maybe less. You're a million years old, dude. Black people
are going to be here forever. Why do all these
businesses and these corporations and these entities keep making these
decisions offending an entire swath of the population.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
I'm making fiscal decisions, Ramses, this is who they really are.
They're making decisions about who they are and where they stand.
Like I'll tell you, when people reach out to us
to defend Donald Trump, they've never met him, they don't
know him, but they couldn't possibly be defending him, But
they're defending.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Themselves sure nosing the.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Part of themselves that they see in him.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
That that's more than fair. And I think that, you know,
let's let's go with that. You're right, Okay, let's go
with that. If they care more about being racist than
they do about money, that leaves a wide open lane
for black people to capitalize on that. If we would
just take a moment and recognize that these these entities
(18:38):
do not support us, they do not value us, they
do not respect us. And if we took our time
and attention and money and focused it on decidedly black businesses, endeavors, pushes,
et cetera, then.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
We could build up our own.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Infrastructure that would force in order for these other entities
to be competitive, it would force them to fire the
people that are kind of towing the racism along to
change their corporate culture, and we would have to see
it for some time and to meet us where we
deserve to be met, and we should be well met.
(19:24):
And what comes to mind right now, just because I
know that this man has been on this path or
some time and he's a friend of ours and a
friend of all of our shows that we do together.
Isaac Hayes the third and fan base for everybody that's
still on X or Twitter or whatever. You are on
a platform owned by a Nazi. If you can just everybody,
(19:46):
not just black folks, everybody. If you are on that platform,
you're on a platform owned by a Nazi. Every time
you log in, your eyes that see the ads that
line his pockets means that your eyes are supporting him,
your attention is supporting him. And what you can do
to change that, if indeed you are a decent human being.
You don't have to be a good one, just decent
(20:09):
is go to fan base and if everybody does that,
you know, set up the account, even if you're not
active there. If everybody does that, then you know, we
get some of our respect back. It might take some
time we get there. Ice Cube has his own league
and I'm not going to get into that, but he
is a black man, for better or worse, whatever his
politics are, and.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
You can't just say whatever his politics are, well, that's fair.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
I can't. The whole reason we just told.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
People to get the other platform is based on that
man the politics.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yes, that's fair, but watch this. I think it's more
of a stretch for a black person to be anti
black than it is for a white person. That's not
to say that black people are not anti black, because
there's certainly a great deal of them, but for a
person like ice Cube, who initially when Donald Trump ran,
(21:02):
he was very critical of Donald Trump is his campaign
and his presidency. Toward the end of Donald Trump's first presidency,
we saw ice Cube trying to I think he had
like an agenda for Black America or something like that
he called it, and he was trying to meet with
Donald Trump to have this conversation to whatever whatever it was.
And we looked at that like, yo, are you kissing
(21:23):
the ring? And he pushed back saying, no, that's not
what I'm He's in office, we got to have this conversation.
We just looked like, yo, ice Cube sold us out.
I still kind of feel that way.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
And then just showed up to this last election cycle
of telling people not to vote.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
So we're not going to a so so yeah, so
that Again there's this hole back and forth, you know
with ice cube. But the fact remains is that ice
cbe has a league and the more like, I feel
like if we needed to put pressure on somebody, we
could do we could, we could be more effective if
(21:56):
the person was black, regardless of their politics, than if
the person was white.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
White.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
A white person, I don't, I don't I know how
this is going to sound, but follow me, A white
person can just simply fly above all of that, even
even the money. To your point, they you know, the
money is if the racism is stronger than their desire
to be.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Put an if there there's no if there.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Because the racism is stronger than their desire to make it.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
More importantly, they've decided that they're fans because they're making
the decisions for their fans. They've decided their fans don't care.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
About ending racism, and their fans are not going to
push back.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yeah, you don't put that on the end zone for yourself.
The whole reason that all of it is a TV
show for the viewer. They've decided that their fans have
no issue and there won't be any pushback with them
just deciding that ending racism is no longer a priority.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
You know what I mean? It's it's to that, to
the end of to the end where we.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Unplugged from all of this stuff, starting with Isaac Hayes's
fan base and ice cubes. Big three is the start,
because we have to create something else. It's just like
we boycot only boycott Target because another because another store exists.
But what we're figuring out with all these ideas of
boycotting and the idea of doing it long term is
(23:14):
we have to create an alternative or eventually.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Turn it back to what we were doing. And you
look around, Okay, I gotta go to the store.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I need some food we.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Boycotted last week. What we're doing now? Is there a
black Target? Is there?
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Like?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Is there a bulls Eye now? Like that we make
the new store? Like where are we going? Okay, no
more Amazon? So where's the other place where I can
have them deliver everything to my house? Like it's sure,
but we have black As a collective, we have to
give each other other options and be like telling people hey,
(23:46):
stop using money. They would be like, huh, well, the
races own all the money and you're using it.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Well, that's the way the world works. That's a fair
point the world.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
How about this, How about this.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
We start where we are with what we have, and
we do what we can. And so knowing this about
the NFL and what they're on again, you're to your point.
It's really easy for me because I I love the
NFL as much as you love it. Outside of that,
outside of that, well no, no, I love the when
(24:20):
I'm around you, you know, like I'll participate, That's what
I mean. Like, if you love it, then I'll be
a good sport about it. But if no one in
my life, ecosystem whatever ever said NFL game, football, ball, whatever,
I would not even think about it. I'm a music
one hundred percent, So it's easy for me to ignore
this sort of stuff.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
But for the folks that there's no equivalent place for
those brothers to go make millions of dollars.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Yeah, yeah, And that's fair. And in terms of the people,
in terms of the people that are participating that are
making money, if they're doing that, and it's a means
to an end, I understand having them participate in a
racist society that hates you, in a racist system that
hates you, so that you can earn enough money to change.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
And again, the unfortunate part is the only way for
them to make money from that is for people watching it.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Sure, but they don't need all the people.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
It's it's it's it is a complicated piece of math.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
More than fair, but they don't need all the people.
And I think that what I'm where I'm going with
this is you know, to my larger point, do what
you can with what you have where you are. I
think that that feels more like, hey, if it's not,
(25:32):
if you think that this is acceptable or acceptable enough,
or you're just willing to take this on the chin.
The game is on the television for free, no one's
going to stop you, right, But if you feel like
the NFL has insulted you, or has insulted your brothers
and sisters who are African American by changing their messaging
(25:58):
to accommodate the sensibilities Trump and this game doesn't make
or break you, you're like a rams this type of
person like I don't just tell me who one or
don't would make a difference. One bit in my life overall.
That wouldn't It wouldn't change the thing about what I'm
doing right. If you're that type of person that's doing
what you can where you are, right with what you have.
(26:20):
If you if you live in a food desert and
you have to go to Walmart, is the only place
that sells food, and we're boycotting Walmart, we can boycott Walmart.
I live in the city, like I can go to
Kroger and buy all my food because they're keeping their
dey policies, or at least last I checked, you know
what I mean. It's just down the street, you know,
(26:40):
it's it's the opposite direction of the Walmart. No problem.
I don't like Walmart anyway. They got roaches in there.
So but you know, for a person like me, that's
that's okay. If you're not that person, no one's going
to ask you to do that. But what you can
do do that, do what you can where you are,
what you have. If you have money in a bank
(27:02):
and you have access to a black owned bank, there's
how you get back some of the respect that you
deserve if you have you know, if you're going to
a fast food restaurant, but you can stop at the
black owned mom and pop, you know, restaurant and get
dinner for your kids there. You know what I'm saying,
consider it, you know, like this is that time. And
(27:23):
the push is not to be racist or what is
it reverse racist, because that's what a lot of times
white folks try to call it if we try to
support black owned businesses. The push is rather to earn,
or rather reclaim, because I don't think you need to
earn human dignity from people, but to reclaim dignity and respect.
(27:46):
And I think that it's really easy for these institutions
like the NFL to change their end zone because I
think that in their minds and then their eyes and
in their hearts, we are very much an afterthought. Like
I can look at you, a black man, I can
look at your family, I could look at your play,
(28:06):
and I can say, this human being is just like me.
This human being wants a better tomorrow for his family.
Is his future. The same things that make me cry
make him cry. The same things that make me laugh
make him laugh. He's my brother. He's walking a different path,
but we have more in common than what separates us,
and we can sit down at a table and break bread.
(28:27):
I don't think that the NFL looks at The NFL
looks at a lot of groups like that, but I
don't think the NFL looks at black people like that.
As illustrated by this move. There's sometimes he with it
or when it makes sense for them and when they
can get cool points from it. Sure, like a lot
of other companies, but a move like this for the
benefit of Donald Trump specifically feels short sighted, feels insulting,
(28:52):
and it feels like they don't care. And if that's
how they feel, I'm with you, dog, I don't need to.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Watch the Super Bowl. I'd rather watch the superb Owl,
all right.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Well, you're free to disagree, and if you so choose,
do so using the red microphone talkback feature on the
our Heart radio app, or you can get me on
all social media at Ramsey Job.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
I am cboard on all social media as well.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Let's talk about it until we do peace.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
This has been a production of the Black Information Network.
Today's show is produced by Chris Thompson. Have some thoughts
you'd like to share, use the red microphone talkback feature
on the iHeartRadio app. While you're there, be sure to
hit subscribing down on all of our episodes. I'm your
host ramses Job on all social media. Join us tomorrow
as we share our news with our voice from our
perspective right here on the Black Information Network Daily Podcast
This is the Black Information Network Daily podcast, and I'm
your host, Ramsey's Jah And sometimes the amount of stories
that make their way to us means that we simply
can't cover everything that comes our way. But from time
to time, a story just stays with me and Bill
compelled to share it with you and give you my thoughts.
And now one more thing.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Keith Oberman drops f bomb in reaction to the NFL
ditching end racism phrase and the end zones for the
Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
That's from Fox News.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I mean, we could read the article, but I'm still
stuck at ditching end racism because I think we both
understand their why and I just think that's flatly unacceptable.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
So the short of it is that, and correct me
if I'm wrong, because I'm not a NFL person or
a sportsperson. But they had signage up on the football
field that said end racism, and that has been the
case for a few years now.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, since twenty twenty one. So after the summer of
reckoning the NFL. Along with the team names, the logos,
and the yard markers that are painted on the field,
they've also had stinseled on each end zone end racism
and several other messages for social justice initiatives, but in
(01:50):
racism being most prominent. In the last Super Bowl, the
Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs had in racism in
their end zone, which is this for those who are
not sports fan. The end zone is where the touchdowns happen,
so that there's a lot of camera attention on the
end zones, which is why that was the area where
they chose to put that message in. Okay, and here
(02:14):
we are as the end the NFL is simultaneously doubling
down on their DEI efforts while also removing in racism
from the field.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
So explain that to me. Doubling down on their DEI efforts.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
So we've seen.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Dozens of corporations roll back DEI initiatives, roll back DEI programming,
roll back any DEI you know, literature or information from
their websites. The NFL has done no such thing and
has come out publicly and said they they don't plan to.
They understand that their league wouldn't exist without diversity. Their
(02:54):
league is better because of diversity. Sure, they make it,
and they think that they're making that impression on the
public at large, so they won't be pressured into doing
away with DEI. They weren't pressured into doing it in
the first place, is what they want to argue. They
just realized that everything's better with diversity, equity, and inclusion.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Sure, so why would they change the language in the
end zone from end racism? Because I would imagine that
would be a sentiment that would be pretty universal and
would be necessary until such a time in humanity as
(03:35):
there is no longer a such thing as racism.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I'm going to read you this quote from the Commissioner,
and then I'm going to get into my thoughts as
to why they would make such a radical change in
light of these quotes. We got into diversity efforts because
we felt like it was the right thing for the
National Football League, and we're going to continue those efforts
because we've only we've not only convinced ourselves, we've proven
(03:58):
ourselves that it us make the NFL better. We're not
in this because it's a trend, and we're not going
to get in or out of it because it's a trend.
Our efforts are fundamental in trying to attract the best
possible talent in the National Football League, both on and
(04:19):
off the field. As I said, previously. We see that,
we see how it benefits the NFL, and so I
think will continue those efforts. That is a quote from
the commissioner of the National Football League.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
That's like the boss, right.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yeah, the commissioner. So the NFL people think is a
singular organization, it's really an umbrella for thirty two separate.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Organizations, a sort of not a sort of a league.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Of billionaire owners who all of their teams participate in
the league. So the league is made up of all
of those owners working together. Their business support one another,
but they are simultaneously in competition with one another for
fans dollars, for television deals, for attention, for merchandise, et cetera.
(05:11):
So the commissioner represents the collective interest of all thirty
two owners.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Okay, so he's their employee.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
You think of him as the boss because he's positioned
that way, but he's really an employee of all thirty
two owners. He has to answer to them. He doesn't
get to make unilateral decisions. They can fire him if
they felt like it. Oh okay, So yeah, man, it's
an interesting place.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
But he's still someone who has he speaks for the Okay, yes,
so him saying that he's not going to abandon the
DEI efforts for the league is theoretically a good thing. Yes,
until we see this article from Fox News that says
that they're changing the signage from the end zone.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, and they would argue that that has that those
two things have nothing to do with each other. And
if you were gullible or just wanted to believe that,
you'd agree with them until you realize that the forty
fifth and forty seventh president of the United States will
be attending the game, and then you realize words like
end racism might make him uncomfortable. And then once you
(06:20):
ask yourself that question out loud, because the headline of
this article, let me go back, Keith Oberman drops F
bomb in reaction to the NFL ditching end racism phrase
and end.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Zones for the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I'm going to read the article now a common occurrence
in NFL end zones over the last four plus years.
The end racism message will not appear in the end
zones during the Super Bowl. The Super Bowl the largest
television product in the United States by a lot. The
biggest stage that the NFL can be on is when
they decide to stop putting in racism on the field.
(06:56):
This trend began in twenty twenty NFL opener after in
the United States. NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy told The Atlantic
on Tuesday, the league will go a different route, and
we'd have to ask ourselves why, ramsays, what has improved
so much that we should stop the end racism effort.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I'd argue that it's worse.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I'd argue that it's worse as well. Instead, the NFL
end zones at the super Bowl on Sunday will feature
the phrases choose love and it takes all of us.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Oh, so they just took the teeth out of the
end zone for the Super Bowl, not for the whole season,
just for the benefit or for the sensibilities of Donald Trump,
who will be in attendance. So he's basically ignoring all
of the black people and brown people who suffer under
(07:47):
systemic oppression, white supremacy, and indeed a racist country so
that he can meet the sensibilities of the head racist
in charge.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I'm gonna tell you something worse. They're a mask this cowardice.
They are masking this bending of the need to the
head racist in charge to an idea of support for
those who just suffered in the wildfires in La.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Choose Love.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
McCarthy cited the recent tragedies that have occurred in the
US since the start of twenty twenty five, including the
terror attack in New Orleans, wildfires in Los Angeles area,
and the deadly plane crash near Washington, DC. The NFL's
decision was not taken kindly by former ESPN analyst and
political commentator Keith Oberman. He said on Twitter on Tuesday,
(08:37):
I quote, guess what, NFL, If you're against stop racism,
that means you're for racism. Expletive you and every one
of your advertisers. End racism was only seen during the
NFC Championship game against the Eagles and the Washington Commanders,
(09:02):
and the AFC Championship game where the Chiefs beat the
Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Okay, hold on one second. So he's trying to say
choose love and it takes all of us? Are the
slogans meant to address the wildfires, the plane crash, and
the terror attack in New Orleans. Now, if he said
(09:29):
just a terror attack in New Orleans, I could see
that as being plausible. Let me tell you what I
know it's not, but I could see, for his purposes.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Have tangible evidence as to why that's.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Well, I know it's not the case, but but we
know it's not the case in the way that we just.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
If somebody it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, we know it's not the case because we have
good logic and sound reasons. Yeah, yeah, I'm talking about
I know it's not the case. As fact, the Philadelphia
Eagles played the Washington Manders last week and in racism
was in their end zone, and the end zones of
the Kansas City Chiefs and the Buffalo Bills were choose
love and it takes us all or it takes all
(10:11):
of us, and the Super Bowl last year and the
Kansas City Chiefs end zone was in racism and in
multiple in zones across the league. So trying to co
opt phrases you were already using and trying to determine
that the reason you're using them now is because of
these tragedies that have happened is cowardice and intellectually dishonest.
But they know that they can get that over on
(10:33):
their proud to be an American fan base. They know
they can justify removing in racism because those people, just
like the head racist in charge, are uncomfortable with the
idea of ending racism. They'd rather pretend that we live
in a non racist country, like we saw several black
politicians say as they were on the campaign trail for
(10:54):
the head racist in charge, it's.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
A really interesting ploy.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I just decided that I'm not watching the NFL Super
Bowl this year.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Okay, I'll join you, And I don't care about it.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Why that's not a big deal for me, who played
football from five years old, played college football, and it
has been my favorite sport my whole life. I stopped
watching when they made it impossible for Colin Kaepernick to
get a job, and too much time passed and I
got over it, like most of the country, unfortunately, and
(11:28):
I started watching again. And it's a really complicated position
to take because they make a thousand black men millionaires
a year, you know what I mean, Like that's and
maybe that numbers two hides, you know, thirty teams, thirty
two teams by fifty something players.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
So yeah, at numbers far too high.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
But they've created thousands of black millionaires. And it's complicated,
right you you blackball Colin Kaepernick, and then you roll
(12:09):
out all these social justice initiatives to apologize to the
fans that spend all the money while not apologizing to
the player that you blackball for simply saying police killing
unarmed black people is wrong.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
And then you do this end zone thing so that
Donald Trump could be comfortable, but you're platforming Kendrick Lamar.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
You get what I'm saying. Complicated, it's hard to not
support Kendrick. It's hard to not root for Kendrick. It's
not hard. It's hard to not root for jay Z,
who they have a partnership with, who's been as you've noticed,
very very black on his choices for NFL Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
We'll watch this. It's hard for some people. It's complicated
for some people. For me, it's never been that hard.
It feels like they're trying to walk a line, and well, no,
I can't say that because I've had to walk the
line myself. But I find for the most part, then
(13:05):
when it comes to things that are this important, some
things that are this meaningful, some things where you know
objectively right from wrong, and these are like the way
history records moments like this is either you're on the
right side of history or you're on the wrong side
of history, and being on the right side of history,
make no mistake, is wildly uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
And the interesting thing about walking the line, people that
are walking the line are on the wrong side.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
That's where I was going when you're not. Actually, you
just want to appear to be decent, right, right, So
watch this. When it comes to something of this magnitude,
it is much easier for a person like me to
be wildly uncomfortable and just be on the right side
of history, even if the majority opposes me. Listen, I've
been in rooms full of people who were all wrong
(13:57):
and I've just had to be the person who was
right until such a time as they figured it out.
And you feel stupid and you feel humiliated, and everybody
thinks they got one off over you start to doubt
your something.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
But no, this isn't one of the cases where it
feels uncomfortable though. This isn't This isn't from a lack
of comfort. This is from actual conflict, right, They're doing
conflicting actions. Yeah, this is performing Kendrick Lamar on the
largest stage in America as well, got Drake, Well, this
is the thing. The fiscal decision would have supported getting Drake.
(14:31):
Drake has been a fiscally far more successful artist than
Kendrick Lamar. He's a far more popular artist than Kendrick Lamar.
He's a far more digestible artist than Kendrick Lamar. He's
just not better, and choosing Kendrick who's not just better,
but exclamation point dark, navy black black. I don't even
(14:54):
know if navy black is a color, but navan navy
blue is very dark blue. So navy black, I feel like,
is like midnight in Mississippi under the trees black.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
I know that black.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I was there with a very pronounced, very pro black message.
They know that, and they still chose Kendrick Lamar. So
when I say it's complicated, I mean it. The richest
person in the history of the NFL is black, you
know what I mean, the most the highest paid person
in an NFL right now is black. The organization or
(15:26):
the league, the entertainment property that has created the most
black wealth isn't music, isn't the NBA, It's the NFL.
They just employ more black people now on the highest levels.
They don't though, right so they won't. None of the
owners are black. You know, there's a great discrepancy in
the general managers. There's a greater discrepancy in the head coaches.
(15:49):
For a long time, there was a massive discrepancy in quarterbacks,
the most important position in the game, because they determined
we weren't smart enough to play that role. So you're
watching this league that black bought up a black man
for taking a knee, not even for taking a stand.
The irony in that language, the most humble position you
(16:10):
could take on your knee. They tried to. They didn't
try to. They made that disrespectful.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
So when I say it's complicated, it's not because it's
not comfortable that I turned the TV off, pardon the pun.
For years, it wasn't uncomfortable at all. No, I'd like
to worry about my favorite sport. Ever, Colin Kaeperniga got
black while I was done. Just too much time passed,
same argument I made when we were talking about, you know,
our position as black people during the election. Too much
time has passed since life was hell for us, and
(16:42):
we've gotten just comfortable enough to have the privilege of
feeling like we can just not participate, or we can
be contrarian and stand with the other side. Because we
got a couple of dollars in air conditioning, and we
can walk into the restaurant where white people are eating
and sit down. It's gotten too comfortable. So just too
much time went by, and I just found myself one
day back in front of a TV watching football, and
(17:03):
this just reminded me that when when when faced with
which side of the line to stand on, they toe
the line.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
They walk the line.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Unfortunately you have to be on the wrong side of
it to do that.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah, I just I don't understand why everybody's so scared
to go all in, especially a league like this thing.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
The thing that troubles me the most rams is that
people are so afraid of him, like people who should
laugh at him, like you're bully man. If you don't
sit down, Do you want to come to the game
or not. If you want to come, we'll get you
some tickets and some popcorn and all that. But we're
not changing how we do things.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Who are you?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
And you're going to be here for four years or
maybe less. You're a million years old, dude. Black people
are going to be here forever. Why do all these
businesses and these corporations and these entities keep making these
decisions offending an entire swath of the population.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
I'm making fiscal decisions, Ramses, this is who they really are.
They're making decisions about who they are and where they stand.
Like I'll tell you, when people reach out to us
to defend Donald Trump, they've never met him, they don't
know him, but they couldn't possibly be defending him, But
they're defending.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Themselves sure nosing the.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Part of themselves that they see in him.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
That that's more than fair. And I think that, you know,
let's let's go with that. You're right, Okay, let's go
with that. If they care more about being racist than
they do about money, that leaves a wide open lane
for black people to capitalize on that. If we would
just take a moment and recognize that these these entities
(18:38):
do not support us, they do not value us, they
do not respect us. And if we took our time
and attention and money and focused it on decidedly black businesses, endeavors, pushes,
et cetera, then.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
We could build up our own.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Infrastructure that would force in order for these other entities
to be competitive, it would force them to fire the
people that are kind of towing the racism along to
change their corporate culture, and we would have to see
it for some time and to meet us where we
deserve to be met, and we should be well met.
(19:24):
And what comes to mind right now, just because I
know that this man has been on this path or
some time and he's a friend of ours and a
friend of all of our shows that we do together.
Isaac Hayes the third and fan base for everybody that's
still on X or Twitter or whatever. You are on
a platform owned by a Nazi. If you can just everybody,
(19:46):
not just black folks, everybody. If you are on that platform,
you're on a platform owned by a Nazi. Every time
you log in, your eyes that see the ads that
line his pockets means that your eyes are supporting him,
your attention is supporting him. And what you can do
to change that, if indeed you are a decent human being.
You don't have to be a good one, just decent
(20:09):
is go to fan base and if everybody does that,
you know, set up the account, even if you're not
active there. If everybody does that, then you know, we
get some of our respect back. It might take some
time we get there. Ice Cube has his own league
and I'm not going to get into that, but he
is a black man, for better or worse, whatever his
politics are, and.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
You can't just say whatever his politics are, well, that's fair.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
I can't. The whole reason we just told.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
People to get the other platform is based on that
man the politics.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yes, that's fair, but watch this. I think it's more
of a stretch for a black person to be anti
black than it is for a white person. That's not
to say that black people are not anti black, because
there's certainly a great deal of them, but for a
person like ice Cube, who initially when Donald Trump ran,
(21:02):
he was very critical of Donald Trump is his campaign
and his presidency. Toward the end of Donald Trump's first presidency,
we saw ice Cube trying to I think he had
like an agenda for Black America or something like that
he called it, and he was trying to meet with
Donald Trump to have this conversation to whatever whatever it was.
And we looked at that like, yo, are you kissing
(21:23):
the ring? And he pushed back saying, no, that's not
what I'm He's in office, we got to have this conversation.
We just looked like, yo, ice Cube sold us out.
I still kind of feel that way.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
And then just showed up to this last election cycle
of telling people not to vote.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
So we're not going to a so so yeah, so
that Again there's this hole back and forth, you know
with ice cube. But the fact remains is that ice
cbe has a league and the more like, I feel
like if we needed to put pressure on somebody, we
could do we could, we could be more effective if
(21:56):
the person was black, regardless of their politics, than if
the person was white.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
White.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
A white person, I don't, I don't I know how
this is going to sound, but follow me, A white
person can just simply fly above all of that, even
even the money. To your point, they you know, the
money is if the racism is stronger than their desire
to be.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Put an if there there's no if there.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Because the racism is stronger than their desire to make it.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
More importantly, they've decided that they're fans because they're making
the decisions for their fans. They've decided their fans don't care.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
About ending racism, and their fans are not going to
push back.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yeah, you don't put that on the end zone for yourself.
The whole reason that all of it is a TV
show for the viewer. They've decided that their fans have
no issue and there won't be any pushback with them
just deciding that ending racism is no longer a priority.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
You know what I mean? It's it's to that, to
the end of to the end where we.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Unplugged from all of this stuff, starting with Isaac Hayes's
fan base and ice cubes. Big three is the start,
because we have to create something else. It's just like
we boycot only boycott Target because another because another store exists.
But what we're figuring out with all these ideas of
boycotting and the idea of doing it long term is
(23:14):
we have to create an alternative or eventually.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Turn it back to what we were doing. And you
look around, Okay, I gotta go to the store.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I need some food we.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Boycotted last week. What we're doing now? Is there a
black Target? Is there?
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Like?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Is there a bulls Eye now? Like that we make
the new store? Like where are we going? Okay, no
more Amazon? So where's the other place where I can
have them deliver everything to my house? Like it's sure,
but we have black As a collective, we have to
give each other other options and be like telling people hey,
(23:46):
stop using money. They would be like, huh, well, the
races own all the money and you're using it.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Well, that's the way the world works. That's a fair
point the world.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
How about this, How about this.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
We start where we are with what we have, and
we do what we can. And so knowing this about
the NFL and what they're on again, you're to your point.
It's really easy for me because I I love the
NFL as much as you love it. Outside of that,
outside of that, well no, no, I love the when
(24:20):
I'm around you, you know, like I'll participate, That's what
I mean. Like, if you love it, then I'll be
a good sport about it. But if no one in
my life, ecosystem whatever ever said NFL game, football, ball, whatever,
I would not even think about it. I'm a music
one hundred percent, So it's easy for me to ignore
this sort of stuff.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
But for the folks that there's no equivalent place for
those brothers to go make millions of dollars.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Yeah, yeah, And that's fair. And in terms of the people,
in terms of the people that are participating that are
making money, if they're doing that, and it's a means
to an end, I understand having them participate in a
racist society that hates you, in a racist system that
hates you, so that you can earn enough money to change.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
And again, the unfortunate part is the only way for
them to make money from that is for people watching it.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Sure, but they don't need all the people.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
It's it's it's it is a complicated piece of math.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
More than fair, but they don't need all the people.
And I think that what I'm where I'm going with
this is you know, to my larger point, do what
you can with what you have where you are. I
think that that feels more like, hey, if it's not,
(25:32):
if you think that this is acceptable or acceptable enough,
or you're just willing to take this on the chin.
The game is on the television for free, no one's
going to stop you, right, But if you feel like
the NFL has insulted you, or has insulted your brothers
and sisters who are African American by changing their messaging
(25:58):
to accommodate the sensibilities Trump and this game doesn't make
or break you, you're like a rams this type of
person like I don't just tell me who one or
don't would make a difference. One bit in my life overall.
That wouldn't It wouldn't change the thing about what I'm
doing right. If you're that type of person that's doing
what you can where you are, right with what you have.
(26:20):
If you if you live in a food desert and
you have to go to Walmart, is the only place
that sells food, and we're boycotting Walmart, we can boycott Walmart.
I live in the city, like I can go to
Kroger and buy all my food because they're keeping their
dey policies, or at least last I checked, you know
what I mean. It's just down the street, you know,
(26:40):
it's it's the opposite direction of the Walmart. No problem.
I don't like Walmart anyway. They got roaches in there.
So but you know, for a person like me, that's
that's okay. If you're not that person, no one's going
to ask you to do that. But what you can
do do that, do what you can where you are,
what you have. If you have money in a bank
(27:02):
and you have access to a black owned bank, there's
how you get back some of the respect that you
deserve if you have you know, if you're going to
a fast food restaurant, but you can stop at the
black owned mom and pop, you know, restaurant and get
dinner for your kids there. You know what I'm saying,
consider it, you know, like this is that time. And
(27:23):
the push is not to be racist or what is
it reverse racist, because that's what a lot of times
white folks try to call it if we try to
support black owned businesses. The push is rather to earn,
or rather reclaim, because I don't think you need to
earn human dignity from people, but to reclaim dignity and respect.
(27:46):
And I think that it's really easy for these institutions
like the NFL to change their end zone because I
think that in their minds and then their eyes and
in their hearts, we are very much an afterthought. Like
I can look at you, a black man, I can
look at your family, I could look at your play,
(28:06):
and I can say, this human being is just like me.
This human being wants a better tomorrow for his family.
Is his future. The same things that make me cry
make him cry. The same things that make me laugh
make him laugh. He's my brother. He's walking a different path,
but we have more in common than what separates us,
and we can sit down at a table and break bread.
(28:27):
I don't think that the NFL looks at The NFL
looks at a lot of groups like that, but I
don't think the NFL looks at black people like that.
As illustrated by this move. There's sometimes he with it
or when it makes sense for them and when they
can get cool points from it. Sure, like a lot
of other companies, but a move like this for the
benefit of Donald Trump specifically feels short sighted, feels insulting,
(28:52):
and it feels like they don't care. And if that's
how they feel, I'm with you, dog, I don't need to.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Watch the Super Bowl. I'd rather watch the superb Owl,
all right.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Well, you're free to disagree, and if you so choose,
do so using the red microphone talkback feature on the
our Heart radio app, or you can get me on
all social media at Ramsey Job.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
I am cboard on all social media as well.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Let's talk about it until we do peace.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
This has been a production of the Black Information Network.
Today's show is produced by Chris Thompson. Have some thoughts
you'd like to share, use the red microphone talkback feature
on the iHeartRadio app. While you're there, be sure to
hit subscribing down on all of our episodes. I'm your
host ramses Job on all social media. Join us tomorrow
as we share our news with our voice from our
perspective right here on the Black Information Network Daily Podcast
Popular Podcasts
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Intentionally Disturbing
Join me on this podcast as I navigate the murky waters of human behavior, current events, and personal anecdotes through in-depth interviews with incredible people—all served with a generous helping of sarcasm and satire. After years as a forensic and clinical psychologist, I offer a unique interview style and a low tolerance for bullshit, quickly steering conversations toward depth and darkness. I honor the seriousness while also appreciating wit. I’m your guide through the twisted labyrinth of the human psyche, armed with dark humor and biting wit.