June 7, 2023 • 27 mins
In the final installment of a special 4 part series, Host Ramses Ja concludes his conversation with Anthony T. Browder, historian, artist, Director of the ASA Restoration Project and Founder of the IKG Cultural Resource Center.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And now part four of our four part conversation with author, publisher, historian,
artist and educational consultant, director of the ASA Restoration Project
and founder and director of IKG Cultural Resource Center Cultural
Memory Specialist mister Anthony T. Browder. I am Maggie B.
Noen and this is the Black Information Network Daily Podcast
(00:24):
with your host Ramsis Jaw.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
It's the foundation for Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. And this
story of these faiths were derived from an African myth
which has had the African essence stripped away from it
and has been reinterpreted first by people who classified themselves
(00:52):
as Hebrews, and then later reinterpreted again by people who
classify themselves as Christians, and then later still reinterpreted by
people who classify themselves as Muslims. So what I know,
based on my study of history, is that through an
(01:15):
accurate interpretation of historical events, you can find the African
see the African DNA in many aspects of lives or traditions,
cultural traditions that have been attributed to other people. And
that's one of the reasons why this information is suppressed,
(01:37):
because if you find out that the story of Jesus
Christ is a reinterpretation of the story of an African family.
Then that will cause you to look at religion differently
and ask yourself what else has been co opted from
African stories that we've never been taught And if you're
(02:00):
o Pans were responsible for teaching you the story of Christianity,
you have to ask yourself what other information African information
have they not told you that if you were aware
of and applied in your life, could radically alter your
trajectory through life here in the United States of America.
(02:21):
So people are controlled? Is that said? People are controlled
not so much by what they know, but why they
don't know, which is why you know, for me, acquisition
of this information and dissemination of this information is so
critical to me because I understand its ability to dramatically
alter the thinking of millions of people throughout the world
(02:45):
and ultimately change the trajectory of the world. That's what's
at stake.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Sure, Sure, And I think that that's kind of what
I was trying to suggest when we first started talking.
You know, my father would share a lot of the
histories of the stories that were found in the Bible,
the sources I remember just off the top of my
head one where he the story of like Noah's Ark,
(03:13):
the roots of that story were they come from ancient
Sumeria something like that, and then they made their way
into the Bible. And because of the fact that folks
don't know that and they take you know, the Bible literally,
which is what we're taught to do. We take this,
this literally happened. These are the actual words, and these
(03:35):
are this is actually what happened. And any conflict that we,
you know, come about on our own, just based on
our own reasoning, or any conflict that we see from
this chapter to the next chapter of this book to
the next book in the Bible itself. We're not supposed
to question God, you know, you know these things. The
responsibility never squit sits squarely in our lap for our
(03:57):
lives and the trajectory of our lives. The response ability
always lies elsewhere in the universe. It could be with
other people, the devil, God who knows and so the
uh you tying the story of Jesus himself or the
roots of that that virgin birth, that immaculate conception story
(04:18):
to this African myth uh in that conversation that I
saw many years ago, that was pivotal for me because
I'm like, that's it, there's the that's the missing key,
because the Sumerian story, you know, that's obviously that's old Testament,
you know, you know, people get tricky about that sort
of stuff, and everyone has a way to make to
make it work for them. But once you get to that,
(04:39):
that one pivotal moment, the the immaculate conception upon which
everything else is the entire religion in fact, and you
can draw very clear connections to this African story. Not
only does it put African people at the center of
this religion, which is necessary, but it also kind of
allows us to now put the response ability of this
(05:01):
faith that we have for so long taken to be
absolutely true and start to again pull back some of
the responsibility for where we stand politically, what actions we
take and don't take, and you know, how we reason
and make sense of the world in which we live.
So again, I appreciate you sharing that story, and I
recognize there's more ways for people to get involved and
(05:23):
get this knowledge firsthand. I know for a time, and
I'm not sure if it's still true that you would
invite folks on these trips or pilgrimages to Kimmit and
perhaps there are still many ways at IKG to get
involved with the proactive rediscovery of ancient African history and culture,
(05:45):
and perhaps even to assist in the organization's efforts to
help other folks do the same. So let's talk about that.
How can folks get involved if they want to themselves experience?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Okay, well, before I do that, let me comment on
what you just said. Please please, Yeah, a couple of
facts that I think will be illuminating for those of
your listeners who are willing to receive this information. One
fact is that the letter J wasn't introduced until the
sixteenth century. The letter J was not introduced into the
(06:19):
English language into the sixteenth century, which means that Jesus'
name was in Jesus. So all of these deers folks
have been calling on Jesus. It's like diwaling the wrong
number and expecting to get the party that you're trying
to call. It doesn't work. But your performer and slaver
never told you that. The other important issue is this
(06:40):
idea of the immaculate conception. Now, Catholics would tell you
that people's use of the term maculate conception is erroneous
because the immaculate conception refers to Mary being born of
a virgin, not marry the virgin giving birth to Jesus.
So there's so much about religion that we've never been taught,
(07:04):
and as a consequence, we don't have a real understanding
of this system and how it really works. Another point
I want to make is that you find in the
abraham and Faith, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam the story of
a fall from grace. Now, if you were to ever
(07:25):
read books on comparative religion, you'll find that that is
not the dominant point of view of other religions throughout
the world. That is a minority of view and other religions.
There never was a fall from grace. There never was
a separation from the Creator, from God, if you will,
(07:45):
So if you look at African spiritual traditions from that perspective,
human beings were born as instruments of the Creator. And
let's just use the word God. It's inappropriate to this
this process, but I'll just use it because it's a
word that everybody's familiar with. That we were never separated
(08:05):
from God. We are the vessels. Human beings are the
vessels through with the energy of God. The presence of
God works through And once you understand that and are
socialized to know that you have a direct connection to
the Creator, then it's the role of society to train
you how to use that connection for the benefit of
(08:28):
your society. Right, So you learn how to think, you
learn how to reason, so that you, as an instrument
of the Creator, can create heaven on Earth.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
How about that?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
And that's what you see when you travel to Egypt
today to study the history of ancient Chemmic. You travel
there to see monuments, temples, and structures that were built
three four five thousand years ago by human beings who
knew that they were instruments through which the Creator can
(09:07):
express itself so that they could create heaven on earth.
That's the essence of Kimmot. That's the most simple explanation
that I can give you for what Kimmot really is.
It's the longest documented example of what human beings who
(09:28):
just happened to be Africans in Africa were able to
do when they lived their lives expressing their connection to Divinity.
They were never separated from God, so they had the
capacity to create heaven on Earth, and that when they died,
(09:48):
then their spirit with a sin into heaven and connect
with Asar, who was the Lord of resurrection, who would
evaluate how you lived your life on earth, and that
evaluation would prepare you for your nake's return to Earth.
Now I understand and process that man, and it's in
(10:10):
all the texts. It's in all the texts. So in
ancient Chemic they had this concept of the rahimi messieux.
Rahimi massieux means the repetition of the birth, or what
we call in Western vernacular reincarnation. So in other words,
they knew that we come back and that we have
(10:32):
always come back. And the quality of life you will
live in a future life is determined by the quality
of life that you lived in your previous life. That's
why kings name their sons not after themselves, but after
their grandfathers, because it was the belief that the spirit
(10:55):
of their grandfather, of the spirit of their ancestor, was
going to express itself in the body of that child. Right,
So that's African spirituality, right. Spirit never dies. The body
is temporary, but spirit never dies. And so what you
have with religion is the separation of human beings from
(11:17):
their creator. You were born in sin, you fell from grace.
So you now have to submit yourself to these rules
and these laws, so that if you live a righteous
if you live a righteous life or on earth, you
will get your reward in heaven. And if you don't
do this, you will live eternity and hell. For me,
(11:39):
I interpret that because of what I know. That's spiritual
abuse and manipulation. Sure, it's manipulation, and so that is
my interpretation of the world in which we live now.
But you can find, as many have found, by returning
to the source, you find that much of this information
(12:03):
is still available and still accessible, but you have to
pretty much make your own way because this knowledge has
not been institutionalized in the society in which we live,
and you'll be considered you know. Oh, here he comes,
talking that African stuff again, talking that African voodoo again,
(12:23):
that African spirituality. Because folks don't know and don't know that.
They don't know. It's the blind leading the blind. So
the importance of the work that we do at i
KG is about presenting alternative truths. And I don't believe
(12:44):
in proselytizing. Everybody has the right to believe what they
want to believe. If you want to believe in the
Jewish story or the Islamic story of the Christian story,
that is your right. And I'm not trying to deprive
you of your right to believe what you want to
belie lead What I know is that the belief is
something you accept without proof. And when I'm making accessible
(13:10):
to people is document the proof of who we were
and what we did when we were in control of
our own lives. And that information is accessible to anyone
who's willing to invest the time and read and study
and apply this knowledge, apply these principles in their lives.
(13:31):
And if you are aware enough and comfortable enough to
internalize this information and to apply this information in your
life and see that it adds value to your life
and the life of the people in your household, your mate,
(13:53):
your children, your other relatives, then that gives you the
tools to be able to live your life as a creator.
You're not God, but you have the essence of the
Creator within you. You have the capacity to create things, marvelous
things that can improve your quality of life. And you
don't have to beg anybody for anything. You don't have
(14:15):
to pray for this. You don't have to pray for that.
You have the capacity to bring into existence those things
that will benefit you and your family. And that's the
truth is I have come to know it.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
That's wonderful.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
We are here today with author, publisher, historian, artist and
educational consultant, director of the ASA Restoration Project and founder
and director of IKG Cultural Resource Center Cultural Memory Specialist,
Mister Anthony T. Browder discussing the original architects of civilization,
(14:51):
African history and culture. Learning more about his educational organization
as well as his extraordinary body of research collected over
three decades and with sixty five plus trips to Egypt
and other international destinations.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
You know, there's there's something really interesting about this. And
I don't I don't want to like you. I don't
want to upset anyone. But a question that I've always
had that I believe, you know, I kind of uncovered
some deeper truths within my own journey in that regard.
(15:32):
The question was always if if God, the Christian God
that I grew up knowing, was all powerful and all perfect,
which you know that's what we accept, then why would
God intentionally create imperfect beings and then demand that those
beings be perfect or else face damnation because that felt cruel.
(15:56):
And then on top of that, if God can do anything,
and God wanted to make an army of people just
to cultivate a relationship with him or her and just worshiped,
and why would God and all of God's might not
just make it that way? Why do we need to
eat and go to the bathroom and wash our hair
these sorts of things. You know, if God wanted it
(16:16):
a certain way, why do it? And then, you know,
whenever I would ask folks, you know, outside of you know,
my home life, those questions, oftentimes I would run into
these roadblocks. And again those roadblocks are often you know,
who are we to question God? And you know, to
have reason and then to have logic and then not
(16:37):
be able to use it to have truth ancient truths
like the truths that you uncover and have uncovered throughout
your career and then turn to blind eye to them.
It feels very it's saddening in a lot of ways
that I was not educated and still have a long
(16:59):
way to go. I'd never profess to know enough in
this lifetime. But I just I think I'm saying that
to say that I appreciate the work that you've done.
There are people who are on our own journey, folks
that may never ever get to have these type of
conversations with you, that you've absolutely inspired. And those people
(17:20):
are grateful for the work that you've done, because you
certainly have given us an aperture into these sort of
areas where information is sort of siloed that allows us
to connect and funnily enough, remember who we are and
who we were always intended to be. And so before
we let you, I know I've taken up way too
(17:41):
much of your time, any last thoughts, and then naturally
I'd love for you to plug again your books, social media, website,
all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Sure, one of the things that I like to reference
share with the audiences is a quote from James Madison.
James Madison was a fourth President of the United States.
He's a man who is considered the author of the
US Constitution. James Madison was an enslaver. And there is
(18:17):
a building on Capitol Hill that is part of the
Library of Congress complex that is named in honor of
James Madison. And as you walk into this, before you
walk into the building, at the entrance, to the building.
There is a quote from Madison to the left of
(18:38):
the interest Way, and I want to share that quote
with your listeners. And it says knowledge will forever govern ignorance,
and a people who mean to be their own governors
must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives. This
is James Madison right. Knowledge were for every governed ignorance,
(19:02):
and the people who mean to be their own governors
must arm themselves with the power of which knowledge gives.
So knowledge is power. James Madison, the writer of the
US Constitution, knew the power of knowledge. Madison also wrote
in the Constitution Article one, Stition three of the Constitution,
(19:22):
he referred to enslaved Africans as three fifths of a
human being, that we were not human beings. It was
illegal during the time that the Constitution was written. It
was illegal for enslaved Africans to read or write. In
other words, they did everything within their power to limit
our access to knowledge. Why because knowledge were for ever
(19:45):
governed ignurs. We were intentionally kept away from this information
so that we would remain ignorant and remain under their control.
So the purpose of IKG is to remove the blinders
(20:06):
to obscure, remove all traces of ignorance, so that we
can become literate people, conscious people. And as a consequence
of being literate and conscious, we then could use the
knowledge that we've gained to become the masters of our destiny.
(20:27):
And that is the greatest expression of freedom. If you
don't have the freedom, if you don't have the right
to know who you are and to use that knowledge
to make life better for your children, for your community,
then you are not free. And freedom is something that
can never be given to you, can never be legislated.
(20:52):
So we have an opportunity to study, to read, and
to change the trajectory of our lives. And I share
with you, I can share with your listeners that ninety
nine percent of our folks are not going to do
it because they don't believe it or they lack the
(21:15):
capacity to read and study for themselves. So, in every instance,
and I close on this, in every instance, it's always
been a handful of people who carried the light, kept
the flame of knowledge lit so that it could be
(21:37):
preserved and passed down to future generations. And it's always
a handful of people who initiate actions which change the
trajectory of human history. That has always been the case,
and it's not going to be any different in the
twenty first century. So we're going to be approaching a
(21:58):
time of dramatic shift within our society, a shift within
our consciousness, and it's that shift that will determine how
quickly we can move into a future that will allow
us to save society and ultimately save the planet. You know,
(22:19):
there is no question, beyond a shadow of a doubt,
that climate change is real. Politicians, business people who created
this climate crisis have known this for over twenty five
thirty years. They've known this, and they've denied this. Why
because they were interested in making money. But now we've
(22:44):
reached a point where it can no longer be denied
and the future of all life on this planet is
at stake. So people will have opportunities now to free
themselves from those psychological, emotional, and spiritual change that have
bound them for countless generations and create a work with
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other people, other like minded people, to create a new
world for us to live in in order to sustain
the human race and be able to preserve knowledge for
the benefit of those who have not been born. And
that's probably one of the greatest expressions of freedom than
any person living in the United States could participate in.
(23:32):
And if you do that, that will make your life
truly worth living and allow you to be to become
an ancestor whom future generations one hundred years from now,
a thousand years from now will celebrate you, will remember
your name because of the changes that you've made in
(23:53):
their lives. And that's what this whole process is all about.
So IKG website IKG dash info dot com is a
place where you can go to see our books that
are available to purchase downloads of lectures to deal with
a discussion similar that similar to the ones that we've
(24:14):
had in this past ninety minutes. You can also find
information about our regular study tours to Egypt so that
you can, if you have the resources, come and participate
in a life transforming experience and become the person that
I would like to think you were born here on
earth to become, and not just be someone who follows
(24:38):
the rules of miseducation designed to limit your capacity to
grow as a human being.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Mister Browder, you are absolutely a hero of mine and
I can't thank you enough for coming on the show.
So you know I appreciate you sharing insight, and of
course I appreciate your commitment to the successful, informed and
inspired future of the Black community. Once again, Ladies and gentlemen,
(25:10):
our guest is author, publisher, historian, artist and educational consultant,
director of the ASA Restoration Project, and founder and director
of IKG Cultural Resource Center, the Cultural Memory Specialist. Mister
Anthony T.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Browder, Thank you, brother, It's been my pleasure.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I'm Maggie B. Noen and today I'll leave you at this.
The author of six publications, including the best sellers from
the Browder File and Nile Valley Contributions to Civilization, and
the co author of six publications including two Britain with
his daughter, Miss Atlantis Tie. All of mister Browder's publications
are currently being used in classrooms around the world. An
(25:55):
autodidact that describes himself as a chronicler of facts and
information relative to the positive portrayal of the worldwide African experience,
Anthony Browder's chosen life is the epitome of passion, purpose
and true commitment to the cause, being able to dedicate
his life in the magnitude of ways that he has
to topics and activities that wake him up to vibrant
(26:18):
actions each day, not only to enrich and excite himself
and enjoy his own life, but to also have chosen
his areas for life study and ongoing experiences that include
his family, include his community that educate and that connect,
and that will forever have the unlimited potential to make
the world a better place. May we leave today's conversation
(26:41):
both with new information and new inspiration, inspired to imagine
new possibilities and to bring them to life, following Anthony
Browder's lead, and creating a life that adds value, adds light,
that authentically fuels us, and in creating a life that
we unconditionally love of. This has been a production of
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Daily Podcast
And now part four of our four part conversation with author, publisher, historian,
artist and educational consultant, director of the ASA Restoration Project
and founder and director of IKG Cultural Resource Center Cultural
Memory Specialist mister Anthony T. Browder. I am Maggie B.
Noen and this is the Black Information Network Daily Podcast
(00:24):
with your host Ramsis Jaw.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
It's the foundation for Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. And this
story of these faiths were derived from an African myth
which has had the African essence stripped away from it
and has been reinterpreted first by people who classified themselves
(00:52):
as Hebrews, and then later reinterpreted again by people who
classify themselves as Christians, and then later still reinterpreted by
people who classify themselves as Muslims. So what I know,
based on my study of history, is that through an
(01:15):
accurate interpretation of historical events, you can find the African
see the African DNA in many aspects of lives or traditions,
cultural traditions that have been attributed to other people. And
that's one of the reasons why this information is suppressed,
(01:37):
because if you find out that the story of Jesus
Christ is a reinterpretation of the story of an African family.
Then that will cause you to look at religion differently
and ask yourself what else has been co opted from
African stories that we've never been taught And if you're
(02:00):
o Pans were responsible for teaching you the story of Christianity,
you have to ask yourself what other information African information
have they not told you that if you were aware
of and applied in your life, could radically alter your
trajectory through life here in the United States of America.
(02:21):
So people are controlled? Is that said? People are controlled
not so much by what they know, but why they
don't know, which is why you know, for me, acquisition
of this information and dissemination of this information is so
critical to me because I understand its ability to dramatically
alter the thinking of millions of people throughout the world
(02:45):
and ultimately change the trajectory of the world. That's what's
at stake.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Sure, Sure, And I think that that's kind of what
I was trying to suggest when we first started talking.
You know, my father would share a lot of the
histories of the stories that were found in the Bible,
the sources I remember just off the top of my
head one where he the story of like Noah's Ark,
(03:13):
the roots of that story were they come from ancient
Sumeria something like that, and then they made their way
into the Bible. And because of the fact that folks
don't know that and they take you know, the Bible literally,
which is what we're taught to do. We take this,
this literally happened. These are the actual words, and these
(03:35):
are this is actually what happened. And any conflict that we,
you know, come about on our own, just based on
our own reasoning, or any conflict that we see from
this chapter to the next chapter of this book to
the next book in the Bible itself. We're not supposed
to question God, you know, you know these things. The
responsibility never squit sits squarely in our lap for our
(03:57):
lives and the trajectory of our lives. The response ability
always lies elsewhere in the universe. It could be with
other people, the devil, God who knows and so the
uh you tying the story of Jesus himself or the
roots of that that virgin birth, that immaculate conception story
(04:18):
to this African myth uh in that conversation that I
saw many years ago, that was pivotal for me because
I'm like, that's it, there's the that's the missing key,
because the Sumerian story, you know, that's obviously that's old Testament,
you know, you know, people get tricky about that sort
of stuff, and everyone has a way to make to
make it work for them. But once you get to that,
(04:39):
that one pivotal moment, the the immaculate conception upon which
everything else is the entire religion in fact, and you
can draw very clear connections to this African story. Not
only does it put African people at the center of
this religion, which is necessary, but it also kind of
allows us to now put the response ability of this
(05:01):
faith that we have for so long taken to be
absolutely true and start to again pull back some of
the responsibility for where we stand politically, what actions we
take and don't take, and you know, how we reason
and make sense of the world in which we live.
So again, I appreciate you sharing that story, and I
recognize there's more ways for people to get involved and
(05:23):
get this knowledge firsthand. I know for a time, and
I'm not sure if it's still true that you would
invite folks on these trips or pilgrimages to Kimmit and
perhaps there are still many ways at IKG to get
involved with the proactive rediscovery of ancient African history and culture,
(05:45):
and perhaps even to assist in the organization's efforts to
help other folks do the same. So let's talk about that.
How can folks get involved if they want to themselves experience?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Okay, well, before I do that, let me comment on
what you just said. Please please, Yeah, a couple of
facts that I think will be illuminating for those of
your listeners who are willing to receive this information. One
fact is that the letter J wasn't introduced until the
sixteenth century. The letter J was not introduced into the
(06:19):
English language into the sixteenth century, which means that Jesus'
name was in Jesus. So all of these deers folks
have been calling on Jesus. It's like diwaling the wrong
number and expecting to get the party that you're trying
to call. It doesn't work. But your performer and slaver
never told you that. The other important issue is this
(06:40):
idea of the immaculate conception. Now, Catholics would tell you
that people's use of the term maculate conception is erroneous
because the immaculate conception refers to Mary being born of
a virgin, not marry the virgin giving birth to Jesus.
So there's so much about religion that we've never been taught,
(07:04):
and as a consequence, we don't have a real understanding
of this system and how it really works. Another point
I want to make is that you find in the
abraham and Faith, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam the story of
a fall from grace. Now, if you were to ever
(07:25):
read books on comparative religion, you'll find that that is
not the dominant point of view of other religions throughout
the world. That is a minority of view and other religions.
There never was a fall from grace. There never was
a separation from the Creator, from God, if you will,
(07:45):
So if you look at African spiritual traditions from that perspective,
human beings were born as instruments of the Creator. And
let's just use the word God. It's inappropriate to this
this process, but I'll just use it because it's a
word that everybody's familiar with. That we were never separated
(08:05):
from God. We are the vessels. Human beings are the
vessels through with the energy of God. The presence of
God works through And once you understand that and are
socialized to know that you have a direct connection to
the Creator, then it's the role of society to train
you how to use that connection for the benefit of
(08:28):
your society. Right, So you learn how to think, you
learn how to reason, so that you, as an instrument
of the Creator, can create heaven on Earth.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
How about that?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
And that's what you see when you travel to Egypt
today to study the history of ancient Chemmic. You travel
there to see monuments, temples, and structures that were built
three four five thousand years ago by human beings who
knew that they were instruments through which the Creator can
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express itself so that they could create heaven on earth.
That's the essence of Kimmot. That's the most simple explanation
that I can give you for what Kimmot really is.
It's the longest documented example of what human beings who
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just happened to be Africans in Africa were able to
do when they lived their lives expressing their connection to Divinity.
They were never separated from God, so they had the
capacity to create heaven on Earth, and that when they died,
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then their spirit with a sin into heaven and connect
with Asar, who was the Lord of resurrection, who would
evaluate how you lived your life on earth, and that
evaluation would prepare you for your nake's return to Earth.
Now I understand and process that man, and it's in
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all the texts. It's in all the texts. So in
ancient Chemic they had this concept of the rahimi messieux.
Rahimi massieux means the repetition of the birth, or what
we call in Western vernacular reincarnation. So in other words,
they knew that we come back and that we have
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always come back. And the quality of life you will
live in a future life is determined by the quality
of life that you lived in your previous life. That's
why kings name their sons not after themselves, but after
their grandfathers, because it was the belief that the spirit
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of their grandfather, of the spirit of their ancestor, was
going to express itself in the body of that child. Right,
So that's African spirituality, right. Spirit never dies. The body
is temporary, but spirit never dies. And so what you
have with religion is the separation of human beings from
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their creator. You were born in sin, you fell from grace.
So you now have to submit yourself to these rules
and these laws, so that if you live a righteous
if you live a righteous life or on earth, you
will get your reward in heaven. And if you don't
do this, you will live eternity and hell. For me,
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I interpret that because of what I know. That's spiritual
abuse and manipulation. Sure, it's manipulation, and so that is
my interpretation of the world in which we live now.
But you can find, as many have found, by returning
to the source, you find that much of this information
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is still available and still accessible, but you have to
pretty much make your own way because this knowledge has
not been institutionalized in the society in which we live,
and you'll be considered you know. Oh, here he comes,
talking that African stuff again, talking that African voodoo again,
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that African spirituality. Because folks don't know and don't know that.
They don't know. It's the blind leading the blind. So
the importance of the work that we do at i
KG is about presenting alternative truths. And I don't believe
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in proselytizing. Everybody has the right to believe what they
want to believe. If you want to believe in the
Jewish story or the Islamic story of the Christian story,
that is your right. And I'm not trying to deprive
you of your right to believe what you want to
belie lead What I know is that the belief is
something you accept without proof. And when I'm making accessible
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to people is document the proof of who we were
and what we did when we were in control of
our own lives. And that information is accessible to anyone
who's willing to invest the time and read and study
and apply this knowledge, apply these principles in their lives.
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And if you are aware enough and comfortable enough to
internalize this information and to apply this information in your
life and see that it adds value to your life
and the life of the people in your household, your mate,
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your children, your other relatives, then that gives you the
tools to be able to live your life as a creator.
You're not God, but you have the essence of the
Creator within you. You have the capacity to create things, marvelous
things that can improve your quality of life. And you
don't have to beg anybody for anything. You don't have
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to pray for this. You don't have to pray for that.
You have the capacity to bring into existence those things
that will benefit you and your family. And that's the
truth is I have come to know it.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
That's wonderful.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
We are here today with author, publisher, historian, artist and
educational consultant, director of the ASA Restoration Project and founder
and director of IKG Cultural Resource Center Cultural Memory Specialist,
Mister Anthony T. Browder discussing the original architects of civilization,
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African history and culture. Learning more about his educational organization
as well as his extraordinary body of research collected over
three decades and with sixty five plus trips to Egypt
and other international destinations.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
You know, there's there's something really interesting about this. And
I don't I don't want to like you. I don't
want to upset anyone. But a question that I've always
had that I believe, you know, I kind of uncovered
some deeper truths within my own journey in that regard.
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The question was always if if God, the Christian God
that I grew up knowing, was all powerful and all perfect,
which you know that's what we accept, then why would
God intentionally create imperfect beings and then demand that those
beings be perfect or else face damnation because that felt cruel.
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And then on top of that, if God can do anything,
and God wanted to make an army of people just
to cultivate a relationship with him or her and just worshiped,
and why would God and all of God's might not
just make it that way? Why do we need to
eat and go to the bathroom and wash our hair
these sorts of things. You know, if God wanted it
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a certain way, why do it? And then, you know,
whenever I would ask folks, you know, outside of you know,
my home life, those questions, oftentimes I would run into
these roadblocks. And again those roadblocks are often you know,
who are we to question God? And you know, to
have reason and then to have logic and then not
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be able to use it to have truth ancient truths
like the truths that you uncover and have uncovered throughout
your career and then turn to blind eye to them.
It feels very it's saddening in a lot of ways
that I was not educated and still have a long
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way to go. I'd never profess to know enough in
this lifetime. But I just I think I'm saying that
to say that I appreciate the work that you've done.
There are people who are on our own journey, folks
that may never ever get to have these type of
conversations with you, that you've absolutely inspired. And those people
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are grateful for the work that you've done, because you
certainly have given us an aperture into these sort of
areas where information is sort of siloed that allows us
to connect and funnily enough, remember who we are and
who we were always intended to be. And so before
we let you, I know I've taken up way too
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much of your time, any last thoughts, and then naturally
I'd love for you to plug again your books, social media, website,
all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Sure, one of the things that I like to reference
share with the audiences is a quote from James Madison.
James Madison was a fourth President of the United States.
He's a man who is considered the author of the
US Constitution. James Madison was an enslaver. And there is
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a building on Capitol Hill that is part of the
Library of Congress complex that is named in honor of
James Madison. And as you walk into this, before you
walk into the building, at the entrance, to the building.
There is a quote from Madison to the left of
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the interest Way, and I want to share that quote
with your listeners. And it says knowledge will forever govern ignorance,
and a people who mean to be their own governors
must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives. This
is James Madison right. Knowledge were for every governed ignorance,
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and the people who mean to be their own governors
must arm themselves with the power of which knowledge gives.
So knowledge is power. James Madison, the writer of the
US Constitution, knew the power of knowledge. Madison also wrote
in the Constitution Article one, Stition three of the Constitution,
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he referred to enslaved Africans as three fifths of a
human being, that we were not human beings. It was
illegal during the time that the Constitution was written. It
was illegal for enslaved Africans to read or write. In
other words, they did everything within their power to limit
our access to knowledge. Why because knowledge were for ever
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governed ignurs. We were intentionally kept away from this information
so that we would remain ignorant and remain under their control.
So the purpose of IKG is to remove the blinders
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to obscure, remove all traces of ignorance, so that we
can become literate people, conscious people. And as a consequence
of being literate and conscious, we then could use the
knowledge that we've gained to become the masters of our destiny.
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And that is the greatest expression of freedom. If you
don't have the freedom, if you don't have the right
to know who you are and to use that knowledge
to make life better for your children, for your community,
then you are not free. And freedom is something that
can never be given to you, can never be legislated.
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So we have an opportunity to study, to read, and
to change the trajectory of our lives. And I share
with you, I can share with your listeners that ninety
nine percent of our folks are not going to do
it because they don't believe it or they lack the
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capacity to read and study for themselves. So, in every instance,
and I close on this, in every instance, it's always
been a handful of people who carried the light, kept
the flame of knowledge lit so that it could be
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preserved and passed down to future generations. And it's always
a handful of people who initiate actions which change the
trajectory of human history. That has always been the case,
and it's not going to be any different in the
twenty first century. So we're going to be approaching a
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time of dramatic shift within our society, a shift within
our consciousness, and it's that shift that will determine how
quickly we can move into a future that will allow
us to save society and ultimately save the planet. You know,
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there is no question, beyond a shadow of a doubt,
that climate change is real. Politicians, business people who created
this climate crisis have known this for over twenty five
thirty years. They've known this, and they've denied this. Why
because they were interested in making money. But now we've
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reached a point where it can no longer be denied
and the future of all life on this planet is
at stake. So people will have opportunities now to free
themselves from those psychological, emotional, and spiritual change that have
bound them for countless generations and create a work with
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other people, other like minded people, to create a new
world for us to live in in order to sustain
the human race and be able to preserve knowledge for
the benefit of those who have not been born. And
that's probably one of the greatest expressions of freedom than
any person living in the United States could participate in.
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And if you do that, that will make your life
truly worth living and allow you to be to become
an ancestor whom future generations one hundred years from now,
a thousand years from now will celebrate you, will remember
your name because of the changes that you've made in
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their lives. And that's what this whole process is all about.
So IKG website IKG dash info dot com is a
place where you can go to see our books that
are available to purchase downloads of lectures to deal with
a discussion similar that similar to the ones that we've
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had in this past ninety minutes. You can also find
information about our regular study tours to Egypt so that
you can, if you have the resources, come and participate
in a life transforming experience and become the person that
I would like to think you were born here on
earth to become, and not just be someone who follows
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the rules of miseducation designed to limit your capacity to
grow as a human being.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Mister Browder, you are absolutely a hero of mine and
I can't thank you enough for coming on the show.
So you know I appreciate you sharing insight, and of
course I appreciate your commitment to the successful, informed and
inspired future of the Black community. Once again, Ladies and gentlemen,
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our guest is author, publisher, historian, artist and educational consultant,
director of the ASA Restoration Project, and founder and director
of IKG Cultural Resource Center, the Cultural Memory Specialist. Mister
Anthony T.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Browder, Thank you, brother, It's been my pleasure.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I'm Maggie B. Noen and today I'll leave you at this.
The author of six publications, including the best sellers from
the Browder File and Nile Valley Contributions to Civilization, and
the co author of six publications including two Britain with
his daughter, Miss Atlantis Tie. All of mister Browder's publications
are currently being used in classrooms around the world. An
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autodidact that describes himself as a chronicler of facts and
information relative to the positive portrayal of the worldwide African experience,
Anthony Browder's chosen life is the epitome of passion, purpose
and true commitment to the cause, being able to dedicate
his life in the magnitude of ways that he has
to topics and activities that wake him up to vibrant
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actions each day, not only to enrich and excite himself
and enjoy his own life, but to also have chosen
his areas for life study and ongoing experiences that include
his family, include his community that educate and that connect,
and that will forever have the unlimited potential to make
the world a better place. May we leave today's conversation
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both with new information and new inspiration, inspired to imagine
new possibilities and to bring them to life, following Anthony
Browder's lead, and creating a life that adds value, adds light,
that authentically fuels us, and in creating a life that
we unconditionally love of. This has been a production of
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the Black Information Network. Today's show is produced by Chris Thompson.
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us tomorrow as we share our news with our voice
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