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May 9, 2023 • 19 mins

Host Ramses Ja and Andrew Ade King, host of "the King's Monologue" return for the 2nd part of their discussion on the history of Cleopatra and the gaslighting surrounding true Ancient Egyptian history.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And now part two of our two part conversation with
Andrew Ada, King of the King's Monologue. This is the
Black Information Network Daily Podcast, and I am your host Rams' job.
When I was in Egypt last year, I saw at
the flood bank of the Nile River. There's a flood

(00:27):
bank that goes right up to a temple where they
would entomb the pharaoh's body. So when the Nile was
in the flood season, it was the outer bank. I guess.
There were some markings, hieroglyphics etched into a wall face,

(00:48):
and our tour guide said she pointed to one of them,
and it was this symbol for ray or for rob.
I'm sorry, and the symbol, she said, this symbol, this,
this carving is five thousand years old. The person five
thousand years ago etched that right there among the other symbols,

(01:12):
but that was one that was had stood the test
of time. The rest were a little bit more faint,
but there was a deep gouge for the symbol of
God or of raw. So five thousand years right, And
you mentioned the height of Egypt's greatness. I mentioned at

(01:33):
the beginning that it's documented that Cleopatra the one that
we're talking about today was born. I believe it was
sixty five BC, something like that, sixty nine BC. So
we're talking about the height of the civilization perhaps being
somewhere in the neighborhood of three thousand years before Cleopatra

(01:55):
was even born. And what it looks like to a
person like me is maybe there is an opportunity by
those Mediterranean folks, European folks whoever, even Egyptian folks who

(02:17):
want to be disconnected from their African history, there is
an opportunity there for them to, through Cleopatra, co opt
all of Egypt's history, including the greatness, the height of
the empire three thousand years prior to Cleopatra's birth. And
it's a way to push back against this narrative that

(02:39):
black people have achieved great things when indeed European people
were still dealing with a lot. I don't want to
be rude to my Caucasian brothers and sisters, but they
were still kind of on their journey. So we'll say
it that way. So I appreciate you saying very differently.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Say again, that is very diplomatic quay to put it in.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Yeah, you know, and I mean that, I mean that
because you know, I don't think that, you know, punching
back and forth gets to anybody anywhere. I'm a fan
of the truth, and sometimes the truth sucks, and sometimes
the truth is very very healing. You know. Sometimes you're
delta blow here and there, and sometimes you realize okay, well,
and so my path has always kind of been best

(03:28):
served by being diplomatic and not punching down when the
narrative or indeed the facts supports something that puts African people,
black people in the center of the conversation, which is
something that I was often very uncomfortable for non black people,
in particular white men who are very conservative, at least

(03:50):
in this country. I say that to say in that
country as well, But I say that to say that
this is one thing that is very surprising to learn
about on your channel, you know what I mean. This
isn't commons This is like a deep dive, scholarly assessment
of it. But I do want people to not just

(04:15):
walk away from this conversation knowing a little bit more
about Cleopatra. I want people to walk away from this
conversation knowing a bit more about your channel and the
work that you're doing, and your social media outlets as well.
So give us maybe one or two if you can
come up with two additional like surprising things that you've
uncovered researching the topics that you have on the King's monologue,

(04:38):
something that maybe you didn't know or maybe other people
find surprising.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Well, there's there's there's quite a lot there. I'm not
sure how far should go. First of all, I just
want to touch on one of the points that you
made because I think it was really yeah, it was
really personal point because I think the point you made
about the fact that you know they're going to use
this as an opportunity to almost discredit, you know, the
enlightening for want of a better word, that's kind of

(05:04):
taken place amongst you know, all people of the world,
not just you know people of you know, African ancestry
and millenated people, all people of the world to the
fact that you know, their eyes are being open to
the fact that you know, different people have contributed to history.
You know, the origins of civilization actually aren't as clear
cut and black and white, or I should say white
and white. That's what we've been in, what we've been

(05:26):
taught or what we've been raised, So I think it's
been very deliberate that I think there's one bit of
a conspiracy fororism, So I have to be honest, I
think it's a bit deliberate the whole timing of this,
because I think it is going to be used. It's
almost like they're creating this. They're overreacting. It's a massive overreaction.

(05:47):
We know this in terms of what's happening right now.
And I can tell you that first time my channel
is being inundated right now with spammers and with kind
of negative aggression that has just literally you know, you know,
more applied, you know, by several factors since the cleopatripink
came out. So people actually targeting seeking out my channel
now to spam it, to put negative comments on there,

(06:09):
to you know, really just come and ask. You know,
I'm seeing this term blackwashing being thrown around every other comment,
you know, and that the irony and the gas lighting
of that, you know, people turn around and say we're
blackashing history, you know, when we know that the opposite
has been true for you know, at least two hundred years.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
I want to say someone while we're here, and I
know I haven't asked you a much bigger question. But
for me, what frames everything is the fact that human
beings almost sapiens sapiens started in Africa with black skin.
It is irrefutable, it is scientific, and so there's an
argument to be made that all musical history as routes

(06:51):
to Africa. There's an argument to be made that all
architectural history, all history in terms of mathematics, so forth,
and so on. You get what I'm saying, Please continue.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
That point actually adds to the point I was about
to make anyway. So that's actually quite perfect because I'm
going to use that to answer your question about surprising
things that I've been uncovered. The surprising things that I've
been uncovered that I touched on my channel is that
actually he's the most surprising thing we have. When I
say we, I mean people of melanated skin have an

(07:23):
imprint on pretty much every continent on the planet, but
particularly Europe. And this is why you're getting such a
big pushback. I believe they released recently revealed a reconstruction
of Cheddarman. I don't know if you've seen this. Cheddarman
was one of the first Brits, so he existed in England.
I think eight thousand years ago, and he had done

(07:44):
his reconstruction, and his reconstruction is very dark. When I
say very dark, I mean slightly darker than my skin tone. Now,
the reason they've done his reconstruction this dark is because
they had no choice because essentially they've done genetic testing
on him and he doesn't carry the gene that is
specifically required for pale skin in modern Europeans. So there's

(08:06):
a specific gene that kind of came into existence a
few thousand years ago which gives modern Europeans all of
them their pale skin or their fairer skin, I should say.
And he lacks this gene. So if people lack this gene,
then they know, you know, complexion wise, they're going to
be from dark to very dark because they don't have

(08:27):
the ability to be lighter than that, so to speak.
So you see this with the reconstruction of Cheddarman. So
then it brings into question. Okay, we know that the
first Brits were dark skinned, you know, Europeans or Africans,
you can call them what you want, but you know
they were dark skinned. And then we know a few
thousand years later we have the ivory bangle, lady, who's

(08:51):
the first Romans to settle in York. And we know
that they were black as well. That was discovered several
years ago and you can literally google that. So that's
the ivory bangle she was. She kind of led the
the group of Roman colonizers, so to speak, and they
settled in yours. So she was black.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Spell the names you said.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
The first one was Cheddarman. So the first one was Cheddarman.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
You can spell those names for our listeners, and.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Cheddar as in cheddar Cheeseka, so yeah, c h E
d d ar so Cheddarman. And the second one is
the ivory bangle lady, So ivory as in you know
the bone, So ivory bangle lady. You can google that
as well. They've done reconstruction. So the more you dig
into British history, the more you start to realize that

(09:40):
actually is a lot of milleniation for one of a
better word in Britain in Britain's history. And then you
start going throughout history and you start bringing up royals,
and this is where it gets really interesting. There's a
lot of British royals that we know now were mellanated.
And I touched on some of these in my channel
as well. So the reason I touched all of this
is because it's creating a lot of fear. The fact

(10:01):
that these things that have been hidden for so long
are being uncovered. I think it's creating a lot of fear,
and so they're going to make major moves to kind
of discredit anything that comes out. You know, I'll be
I'm labeled afrocentric straight away. I'm very objective on my channel.
I do things often that upset my black following, you know,

(10:24):
because I'll get a reconstruction and I'll make it lighter
if I think it's accurate. You know, I'll take a
broad nose and I'll make it thinner. And these are
things that people feel very uncomfortable about, you know, are
introduced phenotypes within reconstructions that people, you know, start to
fee uncomfortable because their minds are programmed in a certain way.
But I, just like you, I really do value objectivity

(10:48):
and honesty, and I think that, you know, the only
way we're going to make progress is if we don't
attack history the same way you eccentrics have attacked history
for the past, I don't know, for several hundred years,
and just you know completely in Clinton coaches that aren't
theirs and we actually apply honestly. And yeah, I think
that's the answer to your question about what surprising things

(11:09):
will they kind of find out. I think that one
of the major answers is that you're going to find
out beyond ancient Egypt that actually, you know, several people,
Mellenated people in particular, have massive imprints on several societies
that you'd be really really shocked to find out.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
We're here today with Andrew Ade King, an independent historical
researcher and CGI construction artist. You know, I want to
share this with our listeners. I was making a note
because I wanted to look up Chedterman, and I wanted

(11:48):
to make sure that I would be able to speak
intelligently about this, and so I made a note on
my computer and then it pulled up to Google results.
First two versus the Natural History Museum. The second one
is from the BBC and it says that the line
on the second Google result I just typed in Cheddarman.

(12:10):
Second line says DNA shows early Britain had dark skinned BBC.
So I think that because a lot of times when
we have these conversations with people they're so afro centric,
they're so black pro black, rather that it's it's like
kind of it ends up being the phenomenon that we

(12:32):
push back against. You know, we're you know, as we
were establishing, we're fans of the truth, even if the
truth is uncomfortable. Right, absolutely, but that commitment is sort
of what keeps your channel credible, keeps this show credible,
And there are lots of people who will kind of
kind of put a little little extra on there, and

(12:55):
so I'm glad to see that this Cheddarman. Indeed, the
second result BBC News, which in my estimation is among
the most credibles where well, well maybe so, I don't.
I mean in terms of European.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
I kind of stand the BBC on this.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Okay, well no better than me. They've they've been much
so in terms of their credibility or something like this
is concerned then perhaps, uh, you know, but it's not
like someplace I've never heard of before. And this is
what I'm trying.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah, absolutely, well, credibility amongst the general public, the right
the top. So that's what I've got my reasons. Yeah,
and I agree, I agree.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yeah, Yeah, I've actually been interviewed by the BBC before
for some issue with the trademark and Kanye West and whatever,
and they were very kind to me. So this is
the only experience that I have with those guys. But
I don't want to keep you too long, so I
have I have another question for you before we let
you go, and that is, uh, what is it that

(13:58):
you hope to accomplish with the King's Monologue long term?

Speaker 2 (14:04):
It's a great question. I think for me personally that
when I started the channel, I'm going to be totally
honest with you, I had no idea what to expect.
But I know that one of my main drivers in
life is to teach. Like I said, I'm a qualified
teacher from the start, and I think, you know, knowledge
is really empowering. It's not just you know, powerful, it's

(14:26):
actually empowering itself. And I think one of the biggest
tools that has been used to create kind of under achievement.
I'm going to use a very cliche teaching term here,
under achievement amongst our youth and in society is the
fact that their history has been stolen. So and this

(14:50):
is I've phrased it that way deliberately because I don't
want to say they're not being taught their history. I'm
going to say, you know, the history has been actively stolen.
And when you remove some as history, you know, achievement, greatness,
exceptionalism becomes exceptionalism. So when you're doing something really good,
it's like, oh, wow, you're an exception. You know, It's like,

(15:12):
I'm sure you've heard it. You must say, oh, you're
you're very articulate for a black man. And I know
you've heard that statement before and for a fact, you know,
so you know, things that should be standard become exceptional,
you know, when your history is removed. However, when people
become aligned and realize actually, look, there's a trail of

(15:34):
greatness that precedes you. You know, you come from great stock.
And I battled with this less because I'm Nigerian and
my mum did a really good job of kind of
like connecting me with my culture and our history, and
Nigerians tend to do quite well in lots of societies,
and I think part of it is that connection. So

(15:55):
being able to kind of reconnect melanated people globally with
their history is my main driving force. But I'm also
seeing the side effect, which is, you know, people who
you know, aren't mileiated, people who are you know, European
people who are white, people who are Asian. They're like,
I'm so glad for what you're doing. I'm so sick
of seeing these reconstructures that I know are false and

(16:17):
being taught this false history. This just looks so much
more authentic. So I think just being able to impact
the world in that regard. If I look at what
the channel's done already and I look at the amount
of views, I'm thinking to myself, that's six million people
globally who have now seen, you know, an alternative reconstruction
of you know, Toots and Carmen or you know Akinat

(16:39):
or Neffer tit. That's pretty powerful stuff. So yeah, I
think more of the same ins Yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Can't wait till you do more on ramses, because you
know that's my guy.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah, I have to know, don't I.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Before Before we let you go, let's let everyone know
how we can tap in with you. Of course, plug
your YouTube channel, but all your social media and anything
you got upcoming, you know, websites, whatever you name it.
Let's make sure that everyone has what they need.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Oh, thank you. I have a patron so obviously if
you want to support my work, you can. I think
it's just King's Monologue. Most of my handles our Kings Monologue.
Obviously the YouTube channel, please do you know, go on there, subscribe,
check out the content. I haven't TikTok, which is the
King's Monologue, I think, and that's pretty active as well.

(17:32):
I put all my shorts on there, and Twitter is
at King's Monologue and Instagram. If you want to message me,
you're better off starting with Instagram. That's how we started,
isn't it. So you're better off starting with Instagram if
you want to get in contact with me and have
a discussion. That's probably why I'll start, because there's nothing
on YouTube for you to be able to get in

(17:53):
contact with me. I think that's it. Yeah, that's it,
really all right.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Well, I appreciate you taking the time to talk to us,
and of course I appreciate you. I appreciate this journey
that you're on. It's meaningful to me and obviously it's
meaningful to a lot of people out there. So keep going.
Whatever is the next step, you know, come back on,
let's talk again, and yeah, let's keep the conversation going

(18:21):
once again, Ladies and gentlemen. Today's guest is Andrew Ade King,
independent historical researcher and CGI construction artist. And before I go,
I'll leave you with this. If you're like me, African
history is a very important part of your weekly content intake.
I recommend checking out the King's monologue on YouTube and

(18:43):
all social media, subscribing, and taking a moment for the
art and historical depictions of our history, because when we
know our history, it informs our path for the future.
This has been a production of the Black Information Network.
Today's show was produced by Chris Thompson. Some thoughts you'd
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(19:05):
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