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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And I said to myself underwater, I said, oh my god,
I'm getting ready to die.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Death was closed. People were drowning the.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Dog.
Speaker 4 (00:11):
We have to get her up there.
Speaker 5 (00:14):
We have to get her.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
To the dog. We ain't got no use.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
And I'm like, oh my god, I'm in the middle
of a river. And as I was floating down the river,
I looked to my left and I saw my uncle
and I called out to him and I said, Uncle, Bubba,
I said, I said, grab my hand. He grabbed my hand,
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but he are so grabbed me right here, and he
kept pulling me and pulling me and pulling me under
the water.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
The crushing decision she had to make. It was a
matter of survival.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I wonder, honestly if this case would have gotten more
attention if it were all elderly white people.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I keep saying, please God, wake me up from this
bad dream that I'm having. But in reality, it's not
a dream, it's real.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
We are devastated what happened during a visit to Sappolo Island,
the one of a kind black experience that turned a
day excursion into a watery grave. Now on Blackland and.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Now as a brown person, you just feel so invisible.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
It's not where we're from.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Brothers and sisters. I welcome you to this joint from day.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
We celebrate freedom. Where we are.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I know someone's heard something and where we're going. We
the people means all the people.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
The black Information that work presents Blackland.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
With your host Vanessa Tyler.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I'm Attorney Ben Crump and along with Attorney Jeff Goodman
from Slots Law Firm, who is a recognized expert in
the field dealing with bridge collapses and collapse buildings all
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across America and the world. I think it's safe to
say the Sas Law Firm is probably the number one
firm that people call when they want to understand the
intricacy in the details of what really.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Happened the scene beyond catastrophic. Seven people died, people who
made it this foreign life seventy five, seventy seven, seventy nine,
ninety three, the youngest seventy three. The ages of those
who would never think their lives went in this way,
sinking in the ocean off Sapelo Island. Nothing can be
so raw, so awful.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
It gets emotional because I'm remembering talking to so many
of them about what happened when the Sapolo Island Gateway
DOC collapsed, and how they were in the water and
they thought that this was the end for them, and
how they struggled to just try to get a breath,
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and how loved ones who they tried desperately to save
could not be saved. And that's what this is about.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Civil rights attorney Ben Crump is all over this one
angry because what happened October nineteenth, twenty twenty four didn't
have to happen.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
But the biggest thing while we're following this multi million
dollar laws suit is because this tragedy was totally preventable.
Let me say that again. These seven people didn't not
have to die on the Sapphalo Island Gainway DOC if
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people would have put safety over money. That's what this
is about.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Elderly day visitors to historic Sapalo Island crossing a plank
with their canes, walkers, wheelchairs. Reportedly, there was as many
as forty people crossing the aluminum plank leading to the
ferry to leave the island when it gave way, dumping
about half of them in the Atlantic. Row her back
on to the blanket.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Well, we don't row you.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
It's my understanding that the structure collapsed in the middle.
One end of the gangway is in the water. One
end of the gangway on the landward side is still attached.
I can't tell you exactly at this point in time
what happened.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Good morning, Miss Regina Brinson. First of all, I just
would like to thank God number one for being here
and being able to stand here today.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
It is a miracle. But God had other plans. As
she her elderly uncle and Miss Carlotta, who was making
her way on her walker, started to cross.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
And my uncle was assisting me with Miss Klota. I
was holding onto her walker while we were standing in
the middle of the gangway, and all of a sudden,
I heard a crack and I was like, Oh my God,
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what's happening. What's happening? And before I knew it, Miss
Koloda shot down in the river. It's just like she
dove off a diving board. I could see her whole
body and her walker go under water. The first half
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of the game way, the whole the first section, the
whole thing collapsed. I was at the split that crack
went straight cross in front of my feet, so I
felt like in slow motion. The part that I was
on when we fell, it fell slow and it was
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going down. Once I hit the water, I was like,
oh my god, I can't believe this is happening. Soon
as I hit the water, it's like the currents were
so rough and bad. The currents instantly just put picked
me up. And I'm just floating down the river. And
I'm like, oh my god, I'm in the middle of
a river. And as I was floating down the river,
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I looked to my left and I saw my uncle
and I called out to him and I said, Uncle, Bubba,
I said, I said, grab my hand. He grabbed my hand,
but he are so grabbed me right here, and he
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kept pulling me and pulling me and pulling me under
the water. And I said to myself underwater, I said,
oh my God, I'm getting ready to die.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
She thought only God himself could save her. Now it
became a struggle as she and her uncle fight to survive.
He was grabbing her and pulling her down.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
And God spoke to me so clearly, and God said, no, no,
you have to release your uncle. I'm underwater peeling finger
by finger by finger off my shirt, having to release
my uncle to just be able to surface back up
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to the top of the water. When I floated back
up to the top, he floated by me. And then
I was like, oh my god, what did I do?
What did I do for releasing my uncle? I felt
so bad, like why did I release my uncle? But
at the time, that's what God told me to do,
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and that's the only thing I knew to do, was
to release him.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Decision made as she watched her uncle get carried away
by the strong current, and.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Then I said, okay, God, I released my uncle. Now
I still have to get to land. Land was not
close to me at all, and I can't swim, but
I knew enough to possibly save my life, and that's
what I did. I knew that number one, keep my
head above water, try to stay calm and don't burn
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up my energy. And number two just doggy paddle, and
that's what I did. And when I made it to
the edge, I just collapsed. I was mentally, emotionally, physically
just strained, just laying on the sand, face down.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
All the while her own mother, Miss Katrina, who made
it across and wondered about the commotion behind her.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
We just heard screaming. People were just hollering, and when
I turned around, I was just what am I seeing.
I couldn't believe what I was seeing. It was like
I was in shock for a second, and I just
I stood there. I saw the people clinging to the deck,
trying to hold on and crying and screaming, And finally
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it dawned on me, where's Regina.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Where's Regina?
Speaker 5 (09:48):
And I kept looking to see if she would wave
at me from a flock over on the other side
of the deck, the other deck on the other side,
and we didn't see Regina. And we kept looking and looking.
No Regina, and I said, oh my god, oh my god,
oh my god, please, please God. I pleaded with him
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for about two hours.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Save Regina, Save.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
Regina, my Lord. And then he spoke to me and
he said, what about your brother, Just like that out
of the day, he said, what about your brother? What
about a lotder I said, oh my God, please forgive me, please,
please forgive me.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I forgot about them.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Please forgive me, Lord, Please save them all, save everybody. Please.
He'll speak to you if you listen. And he spoke
to me because at the moment I could only think
about my child. He was my brother, and I loved
him dearly, and I loved Colala dearly. But the first
thing came was she was about of me. And for
two hours I stood crying, weeping. Please God, please please
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save Regia, Isiah and all the rest. Please save them all, Lord.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
God's will be done. He saved her daughter. The Lord
did not save her brother or Miss Carlotta, who was
ninety three. They were among the seven dead.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
So this has not been easy for me or any
of my family members whatsoever. So I just asked for
a continued prayer to get us through this on a
daily basis. God is my source. It has given me
strel flood to make it day by day, and I
am so ever thankful for Him to give me a
second chance in life. I am so thankful.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Thank you, Regina. And I want to say again publicly Regina,
what we continue to save privately to you, it was
not your fault for your uncle's death. It was the
people who cut corners and building the gangway dot collapsed.
You never should have been put in that position to
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have to try to save your uncle and save your life.
It is not your fault, dear. I want you to
know that we can't say that enough. It is not
your fault for your uncle or Mss Collota, who I
know is like a family member also.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Right, this wasn't supposed to happen on this day, and
of all places on Earth, this place during the Georgia
celebration of historic iconic Sapelo Island.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
I like to start this by saying that our family
members of Sapolo Island, as the descendants of the enslaved
the Thomas Faulting, send our sincere condolences heartfelt regrets on
what has happened in this tragedy on October nineteen. It's
changed all of our lives. My family members are still
going to those same shores on a daily basis seeing
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what happened on October nineteen, still to this morning.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Reginald Hall, a Sapolo Island descendant and passionate about keeping
the culture alive, always questioned the safety of the gangway
bridges at the docks.
Speaker 7 (13:12):
We know that we've been fighting for our survival on
Sapolo Island. We mentioned this in two thousand and nine
as to the dangers of these docks and these gangways
through our federal lawsuit in twenty twenty two. These docks
were rebuilt, but were engineered, as Attorney Goodman said, improperly.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Crump Associate Attorney Jeff Goodman says, that's the bottom line.
Those gangways were not able to carry the weight.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
This tragedy was not just preventable, it was inevitable. It
wasn't a matter of if this gangway would collapse, it
was a matter of when this gangway would collapse. And
the failures happened at the design level, at the engineering level,
and at the construction level. And that is why the
lawsuit that has been filed seeks to hold those design, engineering,
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and construction professionals accountable for this senseless and unnecessary loss
of life.
Speaker 8 (14:11):
You have to understand that on this day, we had
seven hundred plus people on this island. Of these seven
hundred plus people, they were in our chain of command
as the descendants of the enslaved of this island. Two
hundred and thirty six years is our culture on this island.
All of a sudden, we have now lost these elders
as ancestors today and I do want to speak on
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one of the outcomes of this tragedy. Mister William Johnson Jr.
Was seventy three years old, the youngest of the victims.
His family has since come back to the island and
with their help of doctor Denisan Tally, has decided to
create what's known as a Resilience Hub. This is an
emergency management response system that says, not only can this
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never happen again, but more protections are put in place
for our visitors of this island, of our people, so
that our chain of command has no possibility of this
happening to anyone visiting.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Us in the tragedy. The stories of the human spirit,
stories of heroes in the middle of chaos.
Speaker 9 (15:17):
My mother cannot swim, but she is a God fearing woman,
and her prayer was in the middle of that, in
the middle of the ocean, was you know, God save me?
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Nathaniel Hicks spoke on behalf of his elderly mother, Joanne Ross.
She survived, just broke her ankle badly, but she made
it with the help of an angel.
Speaker 9 (15:37):
There was another young lady who we call an angel.
Her name is Erica Blocker LeCount. She also went down
in the water, but when she got out, she's a
younger lady. She made it her business to focus on
my mother and so she went back. She braved the
sides of the water and she was able to reach
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out and grab my mother and Pulley in. My mother
sustained an injury to her ankle where it was snapped
in half. She's now walking and we thank God for that,
and I should probably more clearly say she's hobbling, but
we're thankful for whatever God allows.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
The officials are looking into how, why, and who is
that fault for this human disaster at such a sacred
place where enslaved Africans landed and descendants keep the hog
Hammock community intact, uplifting the legacy of the souls of
those who came before. I'm Vanessa Tyler. Join me next
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