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August 22, 2025 • 15 mins

On today's podcast:
1) US stocks are set to extend this week’s string of losses as investors stay risk-averse ahead of Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell’s Jackson Hole address, with markets scaling back bets on imminent rate cuts.
2) Meta Platforms Inc. is hiring another key Apple Inc. artificial intelligence executive, even as the social networking company prepares to slow its recruitment, according to people familiar with the matter.
3) Nvidia Corp. has instructed component suppliers including Samsung Electronics Co. and Amkor Technology Inc. to stop production related to the H20 AI chip, the Information reported, citing unidentified sources.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Lisa Matteo. Here
are the top stories we're following today.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Lisa, we are just hours away from the key event.

Speaker 4 (00:18):
Wall Street has been waiting for the speech from FED
chair j Powell at Jackson Hall. The White House has
been pressuring Powell to cut rates for months amid a
weakening labor market, but questions remain about the impact tariffs
will have on inflation. Bloomberg's Michael McKee is in Jackson
Hall covering Powell and the annual FED conference.

Speaker 5 (00:38):
Last year, Chairman Powell said that he thought it was
time the interest rates started to go down, and then
he delivered in September when they made a fifty basis
point cut. He's not expected to say that here this year.
He's expected to talk about the fact that the economy
is slowing on the employment side, but there are some
worrying signs of inflation, and since those were require two

(01:01):
different ways of responding by monetary policy, the FED would
prefer to wait and get as much data and information
as possible, which means they'll wait till after the next
employment report and the next CPI report before settling on
the best course of action.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
Bloomberg's Michael McKee part of our special Jackson Hole coverage.
He'll join Tom Keen and Lisa Abromowitz for a special
edition of Bloomberg Surveillance this morning at nine am Eastern Time,
and they will bring you FED share Jpowell speech live
that happens at ten am, and you can catch it
all on Bloomberg Radio, Bloomberg Television, and the Bloomberg Podcast

(01:37):
channel on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Well Nathan. Several former FED officials are weighing into the
Fed's next move. Robert Kaplan is the former Dallas FED
president and vice chairman of Goldman Sachs.

Speaker 6 (01:47):
If the job market were stronger, I think it would
be clearer to be more be patient and wait to
see how the inflation is going to unfold, and be
more patient to see a trend for further down toward target.
But I think with this weekending the labor markets, it's
going to push the FED I think to be more
forward leading and maybe do an adjustment in September. But

(02:10):
the caution I would give if they do move in September,
I don't think that's the start of a cycle.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
I was former Dallas FED President Robert Kaplan. Now the
interest rate market shows about a seventy percent chance of
a quarter point cut at the September meeting and close
to fifty basis points of easing for the entire year.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Oh well, we wait to see whether those bets get refined.
Following Chairman Powell speech, Lisa pressure is building on one
of the Fed's board members. Federal Housing Finance Agency Director
Bill Poulti says he will make a new statement on
new evidence against FED Governor Lisa Cook this morning at
nine thirty am Wall Street Time. Paulty announced that on

(02:49):
x this morning, a day after the Justice Department urged
Powell to remove Governor Cook from the board as it
signals plans to investigate her for alleged mortgage fraud. Poulty
tells Bloomberg he referred to Cook's case to the DOJ
is part of a broader crackdown on the issue.

Speaker 7 (03:03):
We refer people almost every day. I refer people every
week on a minimum, to the Department of Justice for
mortgage fraud. This is literally what I am required to
do underneath the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of two
thousand and eight, which is to ensure the safety and
soundness of the mortgage market.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
You can watch our full conversation with FHFA director Bill
Polti on the Bloomberg Podcast YouTube channel.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Now Bloomberg has reached out to Governor Cook.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
She has declined our requests for an interview, but in
a statement, she says she won't be bullied into stepping down,
but intends to take questions about her financial history seriously.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Talks continue at the White House Nathan on taking a
ten percent stake in Intel to shore up the struggling
US chip maker. Now Bloomberg News has learned that Trump
administration will not pursue equity stakes and other semiconductor manufacturers
that are boosting investment in the US, like Micron Technology
and Taiwan's Semiconductor. Now fill moves in the White House

(04:01):
to take a cut of Nvidia chip sales in China
and to pursue a so called golden share in US steel.
Former Vice President Mike Penn says President Trump should reconsider
the whole strategy.

Speaker 8 (04:12):
State owned enterprise is not the American way. Free enterprise
is the American way, and a refereed private sector with
less taxes and less regulation has created the most prosperous
economy in the history of the world, and if we
stay on that path, that'll always be true.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Former Vice President Mike Pence with a guest on Bloomberg's
Balance of Power. You can also get that full conversation
on the Bloomberg Podcast YouTube channel.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
Well Staying in the chip texter Lisa In, Nvidia reportedly
told its component suppliers to halt production of its H
twenty AI chip that's designed for the Chinese market. According
to the Information, in Vidia issued that order this week
after Beijing urged local firms to avoid using those Nvidia chips.
CEO Jensen Wong says his company is in talks with

(04:59):
Beijing US government.

Speaker 9 (05:01):
The Trump administration has approved of licenses for US to
export age.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Toities to China.

Speaker 10 (05:08):
Recently, China asked some questions about some.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Security back doors in our ships.

Speaker 6 (05:16):
We have made it very clear and put to rest
that H twenty has no security backdoors.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
That was Nvidia CEO Jensen Wong.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
The Age twenty is a less powerful version of the
company's cutting edge AI accelerators. It was designed to comply
with US export controls.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Well well Mark News has learned two tech behemoths are
hooking up on an artificial intelligence related deal. Let's get
the very re lated from Bloomberg's John Tucker. Good Morning, John,
and Lisa.

Speaker 11 (05:42):
Meta Platforms has agreed to a deal with alphabetz Google
for cloud computing services. That's the first major cloud computing
deal between Meta and Google. Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg has
pledged to spend hundreds of billions of dollars on AI
and the infrastructure needed to support howard It, the Facebook
and Instagram parent company, will pay a minimum of ten

(06:04):
billion dollars over six years to use Google's cloud servers
and storage, and an effort to quickly bring online more
computing power as it competes in the race to offer
users AI tools. Zuckerberg is seeking to amass the most
computing power per AI researcher, and he wants to do
it quickly. You know you, York, Come John Tucker, Bloomberg Radio.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
Okay, John, thank you. Mark Zuckerberg was almost involved in
another big deal. According to a court filing, Elon Musk
tried to enlist the Meta CEO for his unsolicited bid
for Open Ai this year. Zuckerberg was one of the
people with whom must communicate it about potentially financing a
deal to purchase the maker of Chat GPT. In the filing,
OpenAI says neither Zuckerberg nor Meta signed the letter of

(06:47):
intent or participated in the ninety seven billion dollar bid.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Well more news out of Meta this morning, Nathan the
company is hiring another key Apple artificial intelligence executive, and
this is even as the social networking company prepares a
slow wits recruitment. In a Bloomberg exclusive, sources a Frank Chu,
who has led Apple AI teams focused on cloud infrastructure,
will be joining Meta super Intelligence Labs, and the executive

(07:12):
is following several of his colleagues to Meta, which also
hired the head of Apple's AI models team.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
Meantime, Lisa China is accusing the US of quote threatening
world peace before it hosts a gathering of global leaders.
More than twenty of them are set to attend the
annual summit of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, which is a
block of countries led by Russia and China. Chinese Assistant
Foreign Minister Liu Binn framed the gathering as a break
with the ethos of a quote certain country that quote

(07:39):
seeks to put its national interest above the interest of others.
US was never invited to be part of the group
that was initially seen in the West as a China
backed Eastern counterweight to NATO.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
It is time now for a look at some of
the other stories making news in New York and around
the world. For that, we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael bar
Good morning, Michael.

Speaker 12 (08:01):
Good morning, Lisa. Governor Phil Murphy says a state of
emergency remains for New Jersey as Hurricane Erin battered coastal
communities with strong winds, waves, and life threatening rip currents.
Governor Murphy says absolutely no one should be in the
coastal waters today. Aaron flooded streets and eroded beaches in

(08:21):
parts of the Jersey Shore and Long Island. High serve
advisories for five to seven feet are in effect. Bloomberg
Meeting religious Craig Allen has more.

Speaker 13 (08:31):
Erin is now about five hundred miles away from Halifax,
Nova Scotia, but still has hurricane force winds one hundred
five miles outside of the center and tropical storm force
winds three hundred and twenty miles from the center, and
so the ocean continues to be very roughed up, and
I would bet that there will continue to be red

(08:52):
flags flying right through the day today, even though the
weather itself is going to be pretty nice.

Speaker 12 (08:58):
Bloomberg Meeting religious Craig Allen, one of the two Menendez brothers,
was denied parole on Thursday from murdering his parents thirty
six years ago in California. It is keeping Eric Menndez
behind bars for at least another three years. Today, Lyle
Menendez will appear before the parole board. President Trump visited
with police and National Guard units that are patrolling Washington, DC.

Speaker 10 (09:22):
Well, I just want to thank everybody very much for
being here. I wanted to do this. We've had some
incredible results and results have come out, and it's like
a different place. It's like a different city. It's the capital.
It's going to be the best in the world.

Speaker 12 (09:39):
In a radio interview earlier Thursday, President Trump said he
would be going out tonight with the law enforcement and military,
but he returned to the White House after the visit
to the facility. Global News twenty four hours a day
and whenever you want it with Bloomberg News. Now, michae L.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Barn this is Bloomberg Time.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
Now for our Bloomberg Sports update, and for that we
bring in John Stashauwer, Thanks Nathan.

Speaker 14 (10:02):
Tour Championship Golf Underwagh in Atlanta. Of the thirty players
going for the ten million dollar first place prize, nobody
played like Russell Henley seven birdies and eagle, no bogies,
a nine under sixty one and a two shot lead
on Scottie Scheffler. Five others trail by three. Rory McElroy
trails by five. Dodgers and Padres both won ALA at Colorado.

(10:22):
Clayton Chrishall went to eight and two. San Diego beat
the Giants Justin Verlanderfelder one and ten. Dodgers leave the
NL West by one game. That's your Bloomberg Sports Update.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
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Speaker 1 (10:36):
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Speaker 4 (10:51):
Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager with the countdown on to J.
Powell's speech at the FED Symposium in Jackson Hole, Wyoming.
His chance to give clues on the policy path for
his final nine months as chair to cement his legacy
as he continues to face relentless criticism from the White
House over interest rates. Ahead of the keynote address, we're
very pleased to be joined this morning by Sarah House,

(11:11):
senior economists at Wells Fargo. Sarah, it's great to have
you with us on Jackson Hole Day. Do you expect
Chairman pal either to give more clues on the policy
path or to address that pressure he's under.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Good morning, Good morning, Nathan.

Speaker 9 (11:24):
So we're not expecting an explicit hint that what the
FED will do at the September meeting. So this is
not like last year where I think there was pretty
broad consensus that the Fed was needing to pivot. So
the committee still remains very split, as we saw within
the minutes, but also just some of the recent FED speak,
and then I think the recent data we had even

(11:45):
since the minutes, it didn't resolve that split. So yes,
you had the much weaker payrolls numbers, but then you
also had signed of inflation being more persistent, just based
on the mix of the recent inflation readings. So I
think going to want to keep his options open where
we still have another month's worth of data before that
September meeting.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
Could there be some addressing of that split? As you say,
we have seen a very divergent view starting to come
out now on where the policy path should go.

Speaker 9 (12:15):
I'm not sure. I think you could see it in
terms of him laying out just the difficulty of the moment.
So you do have the said Candid's intention where the
labor market is living some momentum, but if you look
at certain indicators like the unemployment rate, it's still looking
like it's roughly imbound. But at the same time, you
have inflation that's actually moving back up, so it's moving

(12:38):
in the wrong direction when we've been above target for
almost four and a half years now. So I think
discussing those dueling directions and the different risks that the
set is facing, I think we'll get to just some
of that split and why the committee is so divided
at this particular moment.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
If we do see a chairman Palace sort of keep
his cards close to his vest, how do you expect
the market to.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
React to that?

Speaker 9 (13:01):
Yeah, So it seems like markets were pretty much anticipating
that we would get that clear cut signal that September
is likely, but I think those expectations have been paired
back in recent days. Is again, we've had some commentary
from some of the various regional FED presidents and even
just some of the recent inflation data which showed a

(13:21):
lot of their recent strength driven by services, not necessarily
it being all tariff induce which I think would have
made it easier for the FED to look through. So
I think if he doesn't signal that clear hint in September,
and it'll still probably be viewed as hackish, but I
think markets have kind of shifted that way anyway, anticipating
they won't get that clear, clear green light for September.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
I think there is some anticipation that Chairman pal is
going to talk about changes to the Fed's framework for
addressing inflation and weakness and the labor market. What do
you expect there and the market reaction to that. We've
got about a minute left, sure.

Speaker 9 (13:59):
So we are expecting that they'll announce the new framework,
and I think what we'll see is a more symmetric
approach to that, so formally ditching FATE. So that was
the flexible average inflation target where they said they would
make up for pass undershoot, so just returning to that
simple two percent target, but also taking a more symmetric
approach to its maximum employment side, so not focusing on

(14:21):
only short falls but instead rather any deviation. So I
think this could be interpreted as a more hawkish reaction
function than the prior framework. But importantly, the feeders already
shifted to this so even if it hasn't been formalized yet,
so I don't think it changes the new term course
of policy, although I think it will shine a light
on just how difficult it is the set for the

(14:43):
Fed to cut in this moment where core PC inflation
is likely to be three percent in August.

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