May 2, 2025 • 48 mins
Formula 1 driver Ollie Bearman of Haas Racing joins the podcast ahead of the 2025 F1 Miami Grand Prix.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm Matt Miller and I'm Hannah Elliott and this is
hot pursuit, all.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Right, So so nice to see you. It's great to
see you as well. Y yes, yes, always makes my
day better likewise, and my day is already pretty freaking amazing. Okay,
because I got an email this morning from Singer. Oh yeah,
and huh, I realized that I have an all time
(00:31):
favorite portion nine to eleven and it is the like
M four ninety one, you know, the nine the super Sports.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
It's turbo non turbo.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yes exactly. So it's the nine six four with the
turbo wide body, and I think it has turbo suspension
and turbo breaks, but it has the naturally aspirated moment.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
It's not a turbo. It's a turbo non turbo.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yes exactly, and I think it's the very best one.
You know, our friend Barrier Holds accidentally bought one kind
of it happens, and he and he loves it. He
was going to rip it apart and turn it into
an electric vehicle. Thank god he didn't.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Do that, now do But the point of this not
to keep us on point. The point is that Singer,
like you said, has announced that they are coming out
with one hundred Yes of your of your favorite.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Of my all time favorite Portia and Yes, to be honest,
although I love the Singer business, I love the product.
I love you know, Rob Singer because I love Catherine Wheel,
the band that he was in before he got into automotive.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
But I don't really name singer.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
But I don't really know that much about the cars
they make, Like, what is this not what they were
already doing?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Well, this is what they were doing. This is inspired
by the rare wide body variant of the nine to
eleven Carrera from the eighties, the type nine to six
four that they they were already doing that. Now these
apparently you know it's it's a four liter engine, all
the good stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
It's been by Cosworth, Yes, made stiffer by Red Bull Engineering.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah, in consultation with Red Bull Technologies. This one is
they've taken off the turbotel, which I don't feel good about. Yeah,
I'm just going I mean, that's like the best part
of the Cort.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
The whale tail needs to be on there.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah, the whaleheel needs to be on.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I also saw that the pictures in the press release
there was like a yellow one and a Baby Blue one,
and I'm thinking this car needs to be in guards red.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah, I'm not a fan of Baby Blue. I don't
really think it shows great. But to answer your question,
it's funny when you say, like what it really is, Singer.
You know, I got this press release earlier in the
week under embargo, and at the bottom of the release
there's like a half a page that tells journalists how
(02:57):
to correctly refer to our service, because you know, it's
a very specific thing. You A Singer is not a Porsche.
A Singer is not You cannot call it a nine
to eleven. It's not a Porsche.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
It's it's nine eleven reimagined by Singer.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Right It's a portion nine to eleven Carrera coop reimagined
by Singer. Right now, if you are referring to the
restoration services, you can call it a portion nine to
eleven reimagined by Singer Classic, or you could call it,
you know, a portion nine eleven reimagined by Singer DLS Turbo.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
That's the one I see, so basically three the classic
is so the narrow body nine six four is what
they started doing. That's the classic. Yeah, that Yeah, the
DLS Turbo is like the Balls to the Wall crazy one.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yeah right, yes, yes, So the nine six four that
was from you know, eighty nine to ninety four, the
DLS was the lightweight, right, that was like their first,
I want to say, their first million dollar car.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
And it's the one the super wide body.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Right exactly. But we should also say that, you know,
at the bottom of the release it says Singer is
not sponsored, associated, approved, endorsed, or in any way affiliated
with Portion North America. I mean, they've got all of
this legal language to make sure that they are not
infringing on any right trademarks.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I mean that seems I get that there's also like
a lot of drama about that, but I don't care.
I only care about the car. And like I went
and saw what I guess must have been just the
classic because it was a narrow body nine to six
four at a garage downtown that I saw it at
the auto show of the Bridge, and to me, it's
just such an amazing product. Like the way they design
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the gauges, so there's still the classic obviously analog gauges,
but you can reach through and behind them, you know,
the way they designed the pedal box, the way they
designed the seats, the way they put the gas cap
in the middle of the in the middle of the hood,
which I feel like it would be more difficult to reach,
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but still it looks cool.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah, it's been very interesting to watch Singer develop. And
you know, they first presented their first car in two
thousand and nine and for years had you know, had
problems with money, not paying people, not making money, problems
delivering cars. I remember seeing Singer cars driving to Monterey
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with the hoods literally duct taped down because the hoods
kept flying up in the face of the car. I mean,
these were early years where the you know, they would
not let journalists drive them. It all felt very ramshackle.
And now since there's been an infusion of a lot
of money and like a big organization behind it pushing it,
(05:54):
obviously they are now you know, part of Willer Springs Racetrack.
It's interesting.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I mean, Willow Springs is part of Singer, yes, because
they teamed it to buy Willows Well.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
The ownership company of Singer. I believe our friend Tom
Wagner's right company, so it's Singer doesn't own Willow Springs,
but the same the same company that owns that has
ownership stake in it, had.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Gotten got involved with Singer to bring to put big
money behind them, and then they hired Rajnaire who was
the president of Ford exactly massive you know, industrial management
behind Yeah. But I just like the car, I mean
to me and especially than No, I haven't driven it,
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but the design and the build quality from what I
can tell not having driven it, looked top notch.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
And then they've definitely improved.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
And then to put a four lead flat six, it's
like dream come true.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah, And I think now is the time to say
we are going to have Rob on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
And that's the other thing, so we can ask them
all these questions.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
The other thing is this kind of shoegazing like alternative
grunge rock that Katherine Wheel did is some of my
favorite because it's like sweet spot for me, right, I think, Yes,
Catherine Wheel's first record came out in the early nineties,
and I and Chrome came out in ninety three, and
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I love the record start to finish. Now it started
to get back into this hole. There's a resurgence of
shoegazing rock again these days, which.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
For some of us it'll be the first time. Yes,
I mean, I don't know anything about Katherine Katie Wheel
or anything about that, but.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I highly recommend downloading the record.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I'm looking forward to discovering it.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
In this day and age when we all have access
to every record for the same price every month. To
check out Catherine Wheel Chrome. And then there are new
bands coming out. There's a band called super Heaven that
does the same kind of thing, and I just it's
this kind of droning cold rock, like I really love it.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Have we talked about the question of do we think
rock bands exist anymore so that are relevant?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I think it's interesting that you that you bring that
up just because I recently had Apple Music. And I know,
like I'm an old person, right, the kids use Spotify
or whatever, but I Apple Music is easier for me
because it's all on the same ecosystem. It just sent me.
I guess I was on the right algorithm the modern
rock bands that I should be listening to, and so
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I went and listened to like twenty five of them,
and there's some really good stuff. Well, super Heaven is
one of them.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Okay, okay, Oh, I gotta look them up.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
That that was in that was in the list. Let
me see, I downloaded the ones that I really liked. Well,
Chevelle was one of them. That's not a new band,
but it's a band that I found. I've never heard
of it, and I guess those are the only two
that I took from from this from this twenty five
(09:03):
band compilation that Apple Music sent me. But yeah, I
think I think there is a rock scene. You just
don't see it because it's so hidden by there's so
much now Drake and you know Taylor Swift like pop
is so huge.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
That yeah, there's everything. By the way, Fish just played
three nights at the Hollywood Bowl, which is very close
to where I live. Would you have gone to that
show if you were in LA?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Could they smell it from your house? Basically, yes, I
definitely would have gone to that show. Like, I don't
follow Fish, but when they play at Madison Square Garden,
I definitely go see them because the show is amazing.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
That's what I hear.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
It's just an incredible experience. I always tell people the
first couple of shows I went to, they play three sets, right,
and I couldn't handle the third set because I need to.
I couldn't handle it. I was so amped up. The
way that they do their music, they kind of build, build, build,
and then they crescendo and they hold the crescendo for
a long time and it takes it puts so much stress.
(10:02):
I feel like on you that I needed to duck
out to the Chicken Sandwich stand for the third set,
like I just couldn't handle it.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Well, you know, that's so funny because last night we
were a Musso and Frank, one of our favorites, and
they have to give a shout out to Bores, who
is our favorite bartender there. He listens to the show,
and thank you so much for listening. Bors. Anyway, the
guys at Musso and Frank were saying all the Fish
people were coming in early because they wanted to get
the show on time. It's like a seven o'clock show,
and they were super busy last week with a bunch
of Fish fans. But the Fish fans wanted to make
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sure they were on time to the show, so they
were having like five five o'clock dinners and then going
to the show.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
That makes sense.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah, seemed like they had fun.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I really want to see him at the Sphere, but
they only played four shows there, and I don't know
if they're going to go back. Oh man, I don't know,
unlike The Dead, which I feel like The Dead Now
has a permanent residency at the sphere. By the way,
we should promote our email speaking of your bartender. Should
write into us Hot Pursuit at Bloomberg dot net. And
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we do read the emails. We use the ideas on
our show, we really do. Obviously we write back as well,
So please write into us.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Even if you want to just list the cars that
you have loved and longed for.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
A lot of people are so My new buddy Rick
who writes in he's now He's told me his whole history,
which is kind of bang in line with mine, his Harley's,
his Ducatti's, his Porschas, and I feel like I know
the guy now. Yeah, And that's the same for a
lot of the people that write in. So yeah, please
shoot us an email. And uh, Formula one is a
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thing that we've been getting deeper and deeper into. Even
though I don't really watch Formula one.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
I predict you're gonna slowly be corrected.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Well, I'm definitely gonna watch this weekend because I have
an all new favorite driver.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Me too, Allie Berman.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Was He's such a breath of fresh air.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Oh my gosh, you know what I was gonna this
is not This is not shade. But I find that,
you know, a lot of times when you talk to
these drivers, they tend to be a little bit bland
because they're very risk averse in front of media and
they've been very well trained to talk to media and
all these things, and you know, they can't do anything
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really during the season except for drive and travel, so
sometimes it can be a little bit, a little bit
more of a bland conversation. But Ali was the opposite.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Yeah, he was.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
He was so nice to talk to, and I thought
we had so many kind of basic questions for him,
not what was your favorite color, but.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Kind of like, well, CARDI your drive.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
He rolled with it really well, and his answers were
very interesting too, because he genuinely cares about driving. He
genuinely cares about racing. And let's get into it. This
is Ali Barman from HAS.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Thank you for joining us. It's so nice to meet
you and see you.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Thank you very much for having me. It's a pleasure
to be here and really happy to be in Miami.
As well looking forward to the race.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
So I'm dying to know you're already in town. Can
you just walk us through what these early days are
like for you, both in terms of what you're eating
and what you're doing physically to just prep for the race,
and also mentally, I'm so fascinated by this.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Yeah, so I arrived last night. We got in a
bit earlier to this race. We have a few sponsorship commitments,
but that also allows us to prepare ourselves as best
as possible for the race. So, you know, first thing
is the time zone. We're six hours back here from Europe,
which is pretty significant. Personally, I like traveling west because it, yes,
just means you have to stay up. But every morning
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I wake up a bit earlier than I probably would
have liked to, and this morning was no different. We
started off we tried to go cycling this morning, but
unfortunately we got a puncture, so unfortunately we switched to paddle,
which was our backup option. And yeah, just trying to
get used to the heat here. The humidity is very high,
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you know, very different to what we used to in Europe.
So a few kind of light training sessions, you know,
for us of all getting to explore the surroundings because
it's a great place and really happy to be here.
That was the plan behind cycling, you know, we were
going to go down down to the beach and check
everything out. At the end, paddle was was a good
back up and good to get used to the weather
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and time zone as well.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
I'm assuming you went home to England after being in
Saudi Arabia, so you're you're gradually making your way west. Okay,
not the UK.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
I live in Monaco, so that's an hour ahead, so
I would have been better off in the UK. But yeah,
I was. I was back home for for a few
weeks or a few days or even after after Jedda,
trying to reset a little and enjoy the time off.
And and then yeah, the flight here yesterday. It's a
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long one. They they do feel long, but it's all
part of the fun.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Do you have any flight tips for the rest of us,
Like things you do or don't do on long flights
that you think, like, are you someone who takes melatonin
or doesn't eat certain things or tries to force yourself
to stay awake.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
I'm not super strict. It's pretty easy with flights west
because you pretty much just have to be awake when
you land, because you know, regardless you're going to be
tired after such a long trip. So I wasn't really
strict with myself. I had a few hours of sleep
on the plane because I was connecting through New York
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and it was a long travel day. Anyway. It's a
bit more difficult when traveling east. You know, at the
start of the year, I had to go to Australia,
and there you really have to regiment yourself and force
yourself to stay up and then take melotone into sleep
and stuff. I'm just making sure that I have a
long Netflix series to watch and some noise canceling airphones
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and then anger to go.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
I wonder about living in Monaco.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Does that start before you get a seat in Formula one,
or you know, does the prints offer you like a
condo once you get a car.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
I wish it was like that, but no, no, I moved.
I moved there just before moving to Formula one. And
it's the obvious choice really for athletes, you know, great
central location within Europe, great weather. Also for my training,
it's fantastic. There are so many athletes there that I'm
able to train with and cycling is my main kind
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of sport outside of Formula One. And I think you know,
the roads there are some of the best, especially in Europe,
you know, to train, lots of elevation, lots of mountains,
so it's it's wonderful.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
So it's about I mean, I imagine some of it's
about taxes, but mainly you're saying the community.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Yeah, of course the tax is a big benefit, but
the main reason why I love being there so much
is because there is I have so many people there
that I know, so many like minded people as well,
so you're kind of being brought up by having, you know,
good company, people who are really successful in their own
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respective sports. It's really nice to surround yourself with those people.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I also wonder about driving, like not on the track.
Do you have just a regular driver's license, like a
normal person.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Yes, yes, yes. I used to do a lot of
driving on the road when I was before I was
in formal one. I was kind of living in Monaco
but also in Italy, traveling back and forth a lot,
always by car, driving to some races as well, and
I just really love driving on the road. It's just
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freedom and my passion. But with the amount of traveling
and stuff that we're doing this year, I'm trying to
keep the amount of hours I do on the road
to a minimum because we do plenty on the track
and in the simulator. But still, when it's when it's
a weekend and I have nothing to do, a nice,
nice you know, twenty minute drive along the coast is
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always fun for me.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
So what's your ride?
Speaker 4 (18:15):
I have a Ferrari Roma Beautiful. I absolutely love it.
And yeah, very lucky to have a car like this.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
I love that car. I'm such a big fan. What
color is yours? Traditional red or something different?
Speaker 4 (18:29):
No, mine isn't gray. It's a bit a bit understated
and uh and sleek, and I think it's beautiful. It's
my first ever Ferrari and I want to keep it
forever because it has a very special place in my heart.
My first ever car was like one series BMW, so
it's a big step up from that.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
That's really big of.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
That car too.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Do you notice, beautiful?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Do you notice does it annoy you when you don't
get the kind of acceleration, the kind of breaking, the
kind of downforce or steering that you do in your
track car on the street yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
It's crazy and nothing. No car has impressed me ever
on the road, just because of how impressive the machines
are that we drive. I think, you know, one of
the cars that I drove which really impressed me was
the SF ninety Xxtradale, which is the kind of track
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focused but road going model up from Ferrari, and that
was the closest I've ever felt to driving a Formula car.
But you know in the corners that there's nothing that
can compare to Formula One, and particularly when you take
a road car on the track, that's when you notice
the difference, because you know, on the roads you're not
able to go at speeds to really find the limit
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of a road car, But when you take that car
on a track and then you compare it to Formula one,
you know, for example, when I'm breaking for this corner
in Formula one, I'm breaking in fifty meters and in
my road car it's three hundred meters. You know, It's
just everything is much slower and heavier. So it is
annoying because I can't really be massively impressed by anything.
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But of course I'm very lucky to have such a
fantastic car on the racetrack.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Ollie, I'm so curious. It's interesting to talk about you
loving to actually drive like road cars. And it's funny
because sometimes I hear, oh, you know, there's a certain
generation of people who are in their late teens and
early twenties who aren't interested in driving at all, Like,
aren't interested in getting their driver's license. I'm just curious, Like,
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what do you see around people your friends who aren't
aren't in Formula one? Do they still care about actually
like getting a driver's license and driving real cars.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Yeah, I think it's a big thing in my community
growing up. You know, the first guy to get his
driving license was always the coolest.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
You want him as a friend, for sure.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Exactly exactly, and was always one of the younger ones.
So it wasn't me the first one to get the license,
which which is quite ironic. But yeah, it's just such
a freedom liberating feeling, you know, Like I I used
to love and I still do, but I don't really
have time to do it anymore. But I would drive
across Europe, you know, from Italy back to the UK,
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you know, these overnight trips. I just used to love driving,
and I still do, but especially when when I first
got my license, I would just drive, and a lot
of my friends are doing the same, just because it's
it's the first true feeling of freedom that you can get.
So when I when I see people nowadays without a
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driving license, I kind of question what they're doing because
they're missing out on such a fantastic opportunity.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
How often can you drive on a track? I mean,
I don't know as much about F one as Hannah.
I'm more of a Moto GP guy, but I know
that they can't, you know, ride their bikes anymore than
everyone else in free practice and qualifying. But I've always wondered,
could you take your roma on the track? Can you
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do track days with other people? If it's not you know,
in your Formula car?
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Can you do that?
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Of course, I mean we have no limits in other machinery.
Formula one we have very strict limits. There's no testing
allowed outside of race we can for obvious reasons. But
track days are some of the most fun days for
me because in a way, you can also practice what
you're doing because in a road car, everything, every everything
that happens on the track is magnified because everything happens
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a bit more slowly, you have a bit more time
to feel things that are going on. So those track
days in road cars are some of the times that
I've learned the most about my driving and been able
to improve my driving the most, but also the most
fun as well. You know, I love taking my family
for passenger labs. I'm yet to get my mom in
the car, but I would love to do that, and
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my girlfriend as well.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
But why are they saying no, Why aren't they jumping
at the chair.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Well, we didn't get the opportunity yet, but the second
it comes around, I'm I'm gonna put my mum in
the car and lock the door because I think she's
a little bit scared. But I love taking my dad
on track. I did it once in Magello in a Ferrari.
It was amazing. And you know, when you have people
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like that in the car with you, you're pushing to
the absolute limit to try and get the life out
of them, to the point where sometimes I was scaring
even myself. It was so fun. And yeah, track days
in road cars, even even if you know performance wise
it's nothing that's Formula one, it is so much fun.
And I really say, for.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Those days, what's your favorite track. Do you have a
favorite one to drive?
Speaker 4 (24:05):
To drive, I really like the street circuits. Monaco is
an obvious choice. You know, it's a very historic track
but one of the most thrilling to drive, just because
of the risk and the adrenaline. But I also like
some of the more you know, historic tracks Magello springs
to mind, Suzuka, Japan, Silverstone as well. These kind of historic,
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well known circuits also a blast to drive around.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
How do you deal with the risk?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
I mean, do you try not to think about the
potential of a crash? Is it something that you can't
not think about?
Speaker 4 (24:43):
I honestly, I think if you're thinking about it, then
you're already, you know, slower than the next guy. When
I'm in the car, risk or fear is not even
on my mind because I'm sure in my ability, and
you know, going will to will with the other drivers
is not a risk in my eyes, because you trust,
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You put a lot of trust in them and they
do to you as well. And there's a there's a
very high level of respect between us as drivers because
you know, then we're the ones who are going out
there every weekend and risking our lives. But you know,
on the track, it's not really something that's that's in
your mind. But then again, you know, off the circuit,
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we're looking at everything as drivers, everything we can to
improve the safety of the sport because that's what we want.
We want to be able to race as hard as
we can and not fear crash. And with the way
that the safety developments are going, we're really making fantastic progress.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
You mentioned the camaraderie of drivers. Have you had anyone
in particular offer you some great advice just as you know,
coming up through the ranks. I'd love to know, you know,
who's really said do this, don't do that, or watch
out for this thing.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
I mean, once you're in there, you're pretty much racing
against everyone. So as much as your your friends, they're
not They're not easy to give to get advice from,
because you know the end, everything that they give away
is lost almost But I'm really happy that they've been
very welcoming. You know, there's a there's a few of
US rookies this year, and everyone has been super welcoming
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and and really kind and respectful to us as well.
And it's really a pleasure to share the circuit with
so many historic and talented drivers. You know a lot
of them who I've watched in my in my younger
years growing up, So it's really cool.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
It must be so mild with these guys.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Well, yeah, what what is it like to be racing
against the people that you were, you know, watching on
TV as as a younger driver.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
It's quite insane, especially you know, like Lewis, Fernando Alonso,
these guys were racing when I was born, almost and
every single Left One race I've watched has featured one
of them pretty much. But even you know, the guys
who seem younger, like Max, you know, twenty sixteen, he's
been in Formula one. I think even twenty fifteen, that
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was when I was ten years old, so pretty much
my whole life that I can remember, I've been watching
these guys on TV. So now to share the track
with them in a way is very special and it's
definitely a dream come true.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
That means you have, judging by Lewis's career, at least
another twenty one years in this sport, right.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
I do hope, So I do hope. So you know,
he's proven to be one of the best that the
sport has ever seen. And if you can have that
level of motivation and performance, then I don't see why not.
I hope I'm able to perform at anywhere near a
level that he has to have such longevity in the sport.
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But at the moment, it's such a huge passion of
mine that I want to perform as well as I
can and stay here for as long as possible.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
I think you're with Ferrari Driving Academy in Italy. Now
you're with Hawes, an American team, but you're British. Can
you just talk a little bit about what is it
like now with an American team? I mean you've got
such an international background, what's the culture like? How has
it been sort of blending in melding with that.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Yeah, it's been a lot of change. You know. First
of all, jumping to a Formula one team, there's so
many stuff. That's what I'm used to. Formula two. We
had maybe twelve, twelve to fifteen personnel, and you can
add a zero to that number for the Formula one team,
so it's insane to remember these people and everyone is
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so specialized within Formula one, whereas in Formula two with
such little staff, everyone pretty much does everything so it's
definitely a big change. I've been used to working with
Italian people for a long time and it's different. You know.
Now we have a predominantly British team in terms of
members and personnel, which is nice for me because you know,
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being British as there's always that extra relationship there. But
the guys have been super motivating to me and they've
really helped me, you know, build up on that experience
that I naturally miss out on being a rookie.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Does everybody ride bikes?
Speaker 2 (29:20):
You mentioned cycling is your other sport, Yeah, it just
I mean I imagine that is recommended to help you
with auto rates racing.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
But does everybody ride ride bikes to practice?
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Yeah? I mean there's a few of us, and if
you go to the circuit on a Thursday, you'll see
a lot of drivers doing a little training session around
the circuit on their bikes. I tend to ride a
little bit with a few other drivers, like Carlos Signs.
I've just helped Gabriel bal Toleta. I've persuaded him to
get a bike, so I'm going to get him out
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there very soon. I think for me it's the best
way to train because you can stay in the same
heart rate zone as you are in the in the car,
you know, for two hours at a time. So it's
great and with all the amazing places we get to visit,
it's great scenery. So it would be silly to miss
out on that.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
What's the zone? Where's your heart rate when you're in
a race?
Speaker 4 (30:17):
It depends normally in a practice session, so if I'm
doing like a race simulation, my heart rate is around
one five, But jumping into a race, naturally that's up
at one sixty just because of the extra adrenaline. So
you know, you're burning close to two thousand calories during
the race, and the adrenaline just makes your heart rate
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ten fifteen bpm higher. And also want a qualifying lap,
it tends to get even higher than that, just because
you're giving everything for a very short time and you're
not really thinking about breathing. You know, you're super focused,
and especially on those street tracks, the adrenaline can be insane.
It's nuts.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I'm really curious. Yeah, I mean, talk a little bit
about the Miami track. Obviously it's not through the streets,
but you mentioned humidity and heat in Miami. Are you
doing anything specific to help manage what might be a
very hot race this weekend.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Yeah, it's certainly going to be a hot race. There's
not much we can do against it. You know, the
humidity is the most influential factor in terms of your
body temperature and the physicality of a race, and this
is one of the more humid races of the season.
It's just because with you know, with the layers that
we're wearing, there's not much circulation of air. I can't
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really wear a race foot on the bike, but I
try to, you know, keep myself warm and sweat it
all out. The good thing is that we can come
here a few days early and get used to the humidity.
Acclimatization is really important and definitely definitely for the later races.
You know, one one that stands out is Singapore, that's
one of the most amount races of the season. Yeah,
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it's really important to get there a bit before, get
training in the heat, even if it's running or cycling.
Just getting your body used to, you know, losing that
amount of water. It's really useful.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
I'm surprised no one's developed a cooling suit.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Yeah, this is a new development that we have so
it's in early early kind of trials, but we've been
able to use that in a few practice sessions so
far this year, and this has been quite a game
changer for us, you know, in terms of in terms
of cooling. But it's very difficult to keep it cool
for the entire race, you know, for two hours that
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the car gets so hot at the moment it's it's
kind of a block of ice with cold water running
through it. But you know, as the laughs go on,
it warms up and the ice melts. So yeah, but
it's been really really good to try this. I tried
it in Saudi, you know, that's a night race, so
it's a little bit easier. But I expect Miami to
be a big physical challenge. And even if the circuit
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itself isn't the most demanding physically, it's not got a
lot of high speed corners or hygi areas, there's still
a lot of walls close by, and you need one
hundred percent focus for that entire time, and it's tough
to stay, you know, fully on it with that amount
of temperature and sweat. Yeah, it's not easy.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Ali, I want to ask about rule changes or I
don't know the car design the formula, Like, is there
anything that if you were the boss, or if you
could raise any kind of formula, would you change anything.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
I think between us as drivers there's a bit of
a push towards the FIA, which kind of decide, you know,
how the cars look and how the direction of the
of the regulations go. We're kind of pushing to make
the cars a bit lighter because over the last ten
years we've gained a lot of weight, you know, including
the hybrid system, the cars have gotten bigger and just
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a bit less nim and you know, I've done a
few test days with slightly older Formula One cars and
even just thirty forty kilos is quite a game changer
in terms of weight, and at the moment where probably
one hundred and fifty kilos heavier than we would like
to be than we were maybe ten or fifteen years ago.
(34:20):
Of course, some of that is coming from the increased safety,
but I think the push from the drivers is to
have slightly lighter and more nimble cars and a bit
smaller ones as well, because you know, sometimes when we
get to these tight street circuits, nothing happens because the
cars are too big and too heavy. That you can't
really do anything with them. So that's really the main
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target over the next five or so years. I think
that's what we want as drivers, and I think it
will make the racing even better as.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Well, the risk of asking the obvious. Lighter and more
nimble means you can do more passing, right, which is
more exciting.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Yeah, I think so. And it's really difficult to have
take at the moment. The cause heavy and that makes
the tires overheat quite easily. When you're following other cars.
You can't really do many different lines in the slow
corners because the causes are too heavy to do that.
So I think that's why I really believe that with
a lighter car the racing would be even better, because
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at the moment it's great, but I think we have
a step to do that.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
I mean this kind of follows on that note. What
do you think about the other series? I mean, obviously
Formula one is the pinnacle, Apex predator of automotive racing,
But do you ever watch you know, NASCAR or Indie
or Supercar or any of the other Moto GP for example,
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Is there anything.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Else endurance races?
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Yeah, I'm a big fan of racing in general, so
you know, I try to watch as much as possible
formerly E as well. I'm yeah a big fan of
Motiport and a lot of my kind of friends or
people that I've met over the years are in these
different championships formerly E Whack IndyCar, and you know, they
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provide some entertaining racing as well, which is fantastic, particularly
you know the Indy five hundred La Mon twenty four.
These are standout races that I would not miss for
a thing. But even you know, the old IndyCar race,
I try my best to tune in. Of course, the
timings aren't easy being in America. Yeah, it's it's really
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cool and some of the things I'm doing over there
is a fantastic as well. And yeah, the racing looks
really cool, which is what I like as a racing fan.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
It must have been so interesting for you to see,
sort of. I mean, we talk about a lot this
rise of the popularity of Formula one to really grow
in the US. Obviously it's been massive in Europe and
for years and years, but it is sort of a
new thing to like big US populations. What do you
make of that? I mean, is it like, Wow, we're
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finally waking up to it or I don't know, I'd love.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
To hear I think so. I mean, Netflix has done
a fantastic job for our sport in terms of advertising it,
especially to the US market. You know, now we have
three races in the US, or I guess five if
you include Mexico and Canada, you know, and five races
in North America, which is really really cool, and you know,
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in some really fantastic locations Vegas here in Miami now
as well. It's it's really really cool. And I'm glad
that F one is getting the exposure that it deserves
in the US because it's a huge market, a huge audience,
and I think we can, we can continue to bring
fantastic racing to the US market, and hopefully they can
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they have someone to cheer for this weekend as well.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Well. We will be cheering for you for sure.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Ali.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
It's really been so nice talking with you. Thank you
for making the time.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
I appreciate it. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Good luck.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Are you not going to the race? Are you not going? No?
Speaker 1 (38:03):
I'm not going this year.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Weird because I think about Miami and I think about
Formula one and I think about, what's that Italian restaurant
that has like the pop up down.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
There, Gibriani no Carbone.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Carbone, Yes, oh yeah, yeah yeah. Aren't they the one
that has like the thousand dollars ahead? Yes, And I
feel like you're there.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Well, I mean I've I've been there. I've been there.
I'm actually kind of okay not going this year. I've
gone in the past and it is really fun. And
I have friends in Miami that I love seeing. But
you know, sometimes you have to prioritize where you're traveling
because I've got a child, I've got a dog. I
can't just travel all the time everywhere. So this was
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one of the times where I thought, I'm I'm going
to pass on that, but I will be following along. Yeah,
I think I'm going to plan to go for sure
to the Vegas Race. I actually really genuinely enjoy going
to the race in Vegas. It's so easy for an
F one race to get around.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Yeah, I don't. I mean, I've been to a couple
of F one races and they were kind of like
life changing experiences because they were my first big automotive
racing experiences, like I hadn't ever been to NASCAR or
anything like that before either. I think I went to
my first race at Hawkenheim Ring in two thousand, okay,
so twenty five years ago, and it's the sound and
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the way it hits you in the chest that to
me was like the most yeah, jaw dropping thing.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
It's true, it's really an assault on the senses. And
if you are, like if you go to qualifying and
you go to the race and you're out there all
day in the elements. I just remember anytime I've gone
coming back to the hotel and being completely shot, Like
your senses are just kind of like the sun, the noise,
just everything. The alcohol. Yeah, it's just a lot on
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your body.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
No, it's like a fish. It's like going to a
fish concert for sure. And there's no like downtime. There's
no relaxing part of it.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
And it is really exciting.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
But the thing is, I don't feel like I need
to go anymore, Like even if I get into Formula
one again, which probably isn't going to happen. You know what,
if you just follow yeah, I'll just follow him. But yeah,
I still wouldn't want to go necessarily to the races
because it's you get a much better picture of the
situation watching it on TV.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Completely, Like, honestly, I learned so much more listening to
the announcers on TV that like, yeah, unless you're even
even when I've been in the press pool at Formula one,
and that's a whole different thing. You're literally in a
back conference room watching it on TV like you're at
the race. But a lot of a lot of guys
and ladies just watch the race on TV in the
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press room.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
I mean we go to motor racing, yeah, and when
we lived in Europe, we were going to all of
them on the continent, and that was because of the
sense of community, like yes, you know, we know the
people on the teams and the drivers, the pilots, and
but when it comes to race time, yes, I'm in
front of the TV. So I'm happy to walk around
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the path, like I'm happy to say hi to everybody.
I'm happy to look at all the new bikes and
be in the in the you know, the areas where
they uh where they show new products and stuff. But
when it comes to the actual race, I just want
to sit in front of the big screen, same.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Same, And it's honestly, it's tough because a lot of
the time, a lot of the other really nice people
at the race are not there, either working or actually
interested in watching, so they are trying to chat with
you and like party and have and it's really distracting.
I'm the same, I'd rather just like have some headphones
on and really focus. It's true.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Yeah, what are you got going on this weekend? Then?
What are you? And will are doing? Well?
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Willow and I are prepping the house because next week
Magnus is eighty something year old mother and his niece
are coming to stay with us for two weeks, so
we're gonna have house guests. They're coming from Scotland and England,
and so this weekend is all about, you know, doing
some laundry and the cleaning and getting ready. But the
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fun thing is we are going to take them to Vegas,
which will be really fun and exciting. Neave, the niece
has never been to California, never been to Vegas.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Amazing, she's eighteen, amazing.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Yeah, so so we're kind of in prep mode for that.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Actually, I love showing young adults like these amazing cities.
And I guess she's probably well, she's probably the right age,
but not with you. I feel like in Vegas what
you want to do is shrooms and then go to like.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
May we need to see who's playing the spear. I mean,
I got to check that check schedule. Yeah, so I
don't know. We're going to take some drives. We're gonna
drive to Vegas for one thing, but we're also going
to take some drives just around.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
What will you drive to Vegas?
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Actually getting a press car. It's a Mercedes. It's going
to be one of the e electric sedans, the EQS,
So that will be a very interesting drive.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
I think.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
I don't think it's going to make it on one charge.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Actually probably not, but I think it charges quickly, the EQS.
And I'm sure you've driven it before, but I it's
very luxurious to me. It's like slipping into.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Another and they didn't do you know, those cars didn't
do great for Mercedes, but I thought they were good.
They are very luxurious.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
I always say this, but it's like it's like a
Moroccan palace because on the outside it doesn't look like
anything at all, right, and when you get inside, you're.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
Like, oh my god, that's this is amazing.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
I have I'm also test driving a Mercedes and Electric
Mercedes this weekend. It just showed up my driveway this morning,
but I haven't turned it on yet, but it won't
make any noise obviously. It's the g g oh oh.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
I cannot wait to hear what you think.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
Yeah, I don't know how I feel about it.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
To be are, yes, I feel like you're gonna feel
a lot of different feelings. Yeah, like are you going
into it any which way in your mind?
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Well, So, I had an interesting experience in that I
drove the Cadillac Escalade IQ, this giant electrical thing that
I've been looking forward to for so long.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
We had a slight disagreement on that, and I didn't.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Really like it that much. I mean, I love being
in a big, giant Cadillac because it's obviously incredibly luxurious.
I didn't love the driving experience at all, to be honest.
And then last week I had I drove kind of
the opposite thing in the same category. I drove the
Nissan Armada, which is which shouldn't be terribly luxurious, right
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It has like black plastic buttons. It feels like an
uber kind of but I one hundred percent love the
body on frame, like truck feeling of it. There's something
nostalgic about it. It was handling really well, and I
didn't even mind the turbocharged whatever six cylinder motor, which
wasn't impressive, but it was just like I was driving
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a truck, you know, and internal combustion engine truck, and
I really really liked it, even though it had so
many flaws. The interior is not designed well, you know,
the front end definitely looks like it's got Japanese styling,
which doesn't really work on this big kind of range
rover sized truck. But I just really liked it. I
(45:27):
think I liked it even more because it was in
comparison to this electric probably escalade.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
So I don't know, interesting, So now the G will
be really interesting.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
You know how much I love the gas version of
the G Wagon and the previous G five hundred slash
G five point fifty with the four liter V eight,
I loved it. I lived with it for two years
and thirty thousand miles, and so I don't know how'm
Gonya feel about the electric.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Do you have any trails around where you live that
you can actually make it off road a bit?
Speaker 2 (46:01):
I have that off road road. Remember when I had
the Lamborghini Hurrican Strado and they said I wasn't allowed
to take it off road. So then my neighbor Eric
found the oldest unpaved road in America, the New Albany
Post Road. So I suppose I could take it up there.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
You should try. You should just just to try it.
But there's that three hundred and sixty degree you know,
like party trick that it does.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
What does it? Oh?
Speaker 1 (46:27):
All, yeah, like goes like that.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm sure it's going to be amazing.
Maybe I'll be really into it. I like other electric vehicles.
I always tell people I love the EV nine and
you like it too, and so I do. And I
love the I loved the Hummer, I loved the GMC
Sierra EV. So I like big electric trucks.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
M yeah, for the most part. Oh well, you know
I I I'm not against Eve's, but I am against
doing something for no reason. I'll put it that way.
Speaker 4 (47:06):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
Like I I would be happy if everyone rode bicycles
everywhere and then we just had a few vintage cars
to drive for fun. I mean, I don't I'm not like,
on the face of it, I don't need a car
to be happy. This is why I say I'm not
actually a car person.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Yeah, to be happy. And I don't want anyone riding
bicycles on the road.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
I think everyone should just ride a bicycle and then
everyone is allotted one vintage car to drive on the weekend.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
I feel differently about this thing.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
I know you do, but I mean, don't you think
the reason why Holland has all these high happiness ratings
is because they all ride bikes.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
I mean I think it's because weed has been legal
for so long.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
There, right, tomato, tomato?
Speaker 2 (47:51):
All right, So I hope you had an excellent weekend.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
I'm going to uh go home and get into this
g I eighty and see what I think. And I'm
going to watch Ali Bermonty hopefully do well in F
one in Miami.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
I think he's doing so great his first year out and.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
He's only a little kid. What is he like nineteen?
Speaker 1 (48:12):
He's nineteen. Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
To be nice. You should introduce him to your niece.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
Oh yes, actually, yes, okay, noted, noted, I'm writing that down.
Yeve call me.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
I'm Matt Miller and.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
I'm Hannah Elliott. And this is Bloomberg
I'm Matt Miller and I'm Hannah Elliott and this is
hot pursuit, all.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Right, So so nice to see you. It's great to
see you as well. Y yes, yes, always makes my
day better likewise, and my day is already pretty freaking amazing. Okay,
because I got an email this morning from Singer. Oh yeah,
and huh, I realized that I have an all time
(00:31):
favorite portion nine to eleven and it is the like
M four ninety one, you know, the nine the super Sports.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
It's turbo non turbo.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yes exactly. So it's the nine six four with the
turbo wide body, and I think it has turbo suspension
and turbo breaks, but it has the naturally aspirated moment.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
It's not a turbo. It's a turbo non turbo.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yes exactly, and I think it's the very best one.
You know, our friend Barrier Holds accidentally bought one kind
of it happens, and he and he loves it. He
was going to rip it apart and turn it into
an electric vehicle. Thank god he didn't.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Do that, now do But the point of this not
to keep us on point. The point is that Singer,
like you said, has announced that they are coming out
with one hundred Yes of your of your favorite.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Of my all time favorite Portia and Yes, to be honest,
although I love the Singer business, I love the product.
I love you know, Rob Singer because I love Catherine Wheel,
the band that he was in before he got into automotive.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
But I don't really name singer.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
But I don't really know that much about the cars
they make, Like, what is this not what they were
already doing?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Well, this is what they were doing. This is inspired
by the rare wide body variant of the nine to
eleven Carrera from the eighties, the type nine to six
four that they they were already doing that. Now these
apparently you know it's it's a four liter engine, all
the good stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
It's been by Cosworth, Yes, made stiffer by Red Bull Engineering.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah, in consultation with Red Bull Technologies. This one is
they've taken off the turbotel, which I don't feel good about. Yeah,
I'm just going I mean, that's like the best part
of the Cort.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
The whale tail needs to be on there.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah, the whaleheel needs to be on.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I also saw that the pictures in the press release
there was like a yellow one and a Baby Blue one,
and I'm thinking this car needs to be in guards red.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah, I'm not a fan of Baby Blue. I don't
really think it shows great. But to answer your question,
it's funny when you say, like what it really is, Singer.
You know, I got this press release earlier in the
week under embargo, and at the bottom of the release
there's like a half a page that tells journalists how
(02:57):
to correctly refer to our service, because you know, it's
a very specific thing. You A Singer is not a Porsche.
A Singer is not You cannot call it a nine
to eleven. It's not a Porsche.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
It's it's nine eleven reimagined by Singer.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Right It's a portion nine to eleven Carrera coop reimagined
by Singer. Right now, if you are referring to the
restoration services, you can call it a portion nine to
eleven reimagined by Singer Classic, or you could call it,
you know, a portion nine eleven reimagined by Singer DLS Turbo.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
That's the one I see, so basically three the classic
is so the narrow body nine six four is what
they started doing. That's the classic. Yeah, that Yeah, the
DLS Turbo is like the Balls to the Wall crazy one.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yeah right, yes, yes, So the nine six four that
was from you know, eighty nine to ninety four, the
DLS was the lightweight, right, that was like their first,
I want to say, their first million dollar car.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
And it's the one the super wide body.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Right exactly. But we should also say that, you know,
at the bottom of the release it says Singer is
not sponsored, associated, approved, endorsed, or in any way affiliated
with Portion North America. I mean, they've got all of
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Speaker 2 (04:19):
I mean that seems I get that there's also like
a lot of drama about that, but I don't care.
I only care about the car. And like I went
and saw what I guess must have been just the
classic because it was a narrow body nine to six
four at a garage downtown that I saw it at
the auto show of the Bridge, and to me, it's
just such an amazing product. Like the way they design
(04:42):
the gauges, so there's still the classic obviously analog gauges,
but you can reach through and behind them, you know,
the way they designed the pedal box, the way they
designed the seats, the way they put the gas cap
in the middle of the in the middle of the hood,
which I feel like it would be more difficult to reach,
(05:03):
but still it looks cool.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah, it's been very interesting to watch Singer develop. And
you know, they first presented their first car in two
thousand and nine and for years had you know, had
problems with money, not paying people, not making money, problems
delivering cars. I remember seeing Singer cars driving to Monterey
(05:29):
with the hoods literally duct taped down because the hoods
kept flying up in the face of the car. I mean,
these were early years where the you know, they would
not let journalists drive them. It all felt very ramshackle.
And now since there's been an infusion of a lot
of money and like a big organization behind it pushing it,
(05:54):
obviously they are now you know, part of Willer Springs Racetrack.
It's interesting.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I mean, Willow Springs is part of Singer, yes, because
they teamed it to buy Willows Well.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
The ownership company of Singer. I believe our friend Tom
Wagner's right company, so it's Singer doesn't own Willow Springs,
but the same the same company that owns that has
ownership stake in it, had.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Gotten got involved with Singer to bring to put big
money behind them, and then they hired Rajnaire who was
the president of Ford exactly massive you know, industrial management
behind Yeah. But I just like the car, I mean
to me and especially than No, I haven't driven it,
(06:38):
but the design and the build quality from what I
can tell not having driven it, looked top notch.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
And then they've definitely improved.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
And then to put a four lead flat six, it's
like dream come true.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah, And I think now is the time to say
we are going to have Rob on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
And that's the other thing, so we can ask them
all these questions.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
The other thing is this kind of shoegazing like alternative
grunge rock that Katherine Wheel did is some of my
favorite because it's like sweet spot for me, right, I think, Yes,
Catherine Wheel's first record came out in the early nineties,
and I and Chrome came out in ninety three, and
(07:24):
I love the record start to finish. Now it started
to get back into this hole. There's a resurgence of
shoegazing rock again these days, which.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
For some of us it'll be the first time. Yes,
I mean, I don't know anything about Katherine Katie Wheel
or anything about that, but.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I highly recommend downloading the record.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I'm looking forward to discovering it.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
In this day and age when we all have access
to every record for the same price every month. To
check out Catherine Wheel Chrome. And then there are new
bands coming out. There's a band called super Heaven that
does the same kind of thing, and I just it's
this kind of droning cold rock, like I really love it.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Have we talked about the question of do we think
rock bands exist anymore so that are relevant?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I think it's interesting that you that you bring that
up just because I recently had Apple Music. And I know,
like I'm an old person, right, the kids use Spotify
or whatever, but I Apple Music is easier for me
because it's all on the same ecosystem. It just sent me.
I guess I was on the right algorithm the modern
rock bands that I should be listening to, and so
(08:35):
I went and listened to like twenty five of them,
and there's some really good stuff. Well, super Heaven is
one of them.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Okay, okay, Oh, I gotta look them up.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
That that was in that was in the list. Let
me see, I downloaded the ones that I really liked. Well,
Chevelle was one of them. That's not a new band,
but it's a band that I found. I've never heard
of it, and I guess those are the only two
that I took from from this from this twenty five
(09:03):
band compilation that Apple Music sent me. But yeah, I
think I think there is a rock scene. You just
don't see it because it's so hidden by there's so
much now Drake and you know Taylor Swift like pop
is so huge.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
That yeah, there's everything. By the way, Fish just played
three nights at the Hollywood Bowl, which is very close
to where I live. Would you have gone to that
show if you were in LA?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Could they smell it from your house? Basically, yes, I
definitely would have gone to that show. Like, I don't
follow Fish, but when they play at Madison Square Garden,
I definitely go see them because the show is amazing.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
That's what I hear.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
It's just an incredible experience. I always tell people the
first couple of shows I went to, they play three sets, right,
and I couldn't handle the third set because I need to.
I couldn't handle it. I was so amped up. The
way that they do their music, they kind of build, build, build,
and then they crescendo and they hold the crescendo for
a long time and it takes it puts so much stress.
(10:02):
I feel like on you that I needed to duck
out to the Chicken Sandwich stand for the third set,
like I just couldn't handle it.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Well, you know, that's so funny because last night we
were a Musso and Frank, one of our favorites, and
they have to give a shout out to Bores, who
is our favorite bartender there. He listens to the show,
and thank you so much for listening. Bors. Anyway, the
guys at Musso and Frank were saying all the Fish
people were coming in early because they wanted to get
the show on time. It's like a seven o'clock show,
and they were super busy last week with a bunch
of Fish fans. But the Fish fans wanted to make
(10:33):
sure they were on time to the show, so they
were having like five five o'clock dinners and then going
to the show.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
That makes sense.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah, seemed like they had fun.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I really want to see him at the Sphere, but
they only played four shows there, and I don't know
if they're going to go back. Oh man, I don't know,
unlike The Dead, which I feel like The Dead Now
has a permanent residency at the sphere. By the way,
we should promote our email speaking of your bartender. Should
write into us Hot Pursuit at Bloomberg dot net. And
(11:05):
we do read the emails. We use the ideas on
our show, we really do. Obviously we write back as well,
So please write into us.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Even if you want to just list the cars that
you have loved and longed for.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
A lot of people are so My new buddy Rick
who writes in he's now He's told me his whole history,
which is kind of bang in line with mine, his Harley's,
his Ducatti's, his Porschas, and I feel like I know
the guy now. Yeah, And that's the same for a
lot of the people that write in. So yeah, please
shoot us an email. And uh, Formula one is a
(11:43):
thing that we've been getting deeper and deeper into. Even
though I don't really watch Formula one.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
I predict you're gonna slowly be corrected.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Well, I'm definitely gonna watch this weekend because I have
an all new favorite driver.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Me too, Allie Berman.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Was He's such a breath of fresh air.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Oh my gosh, you know what I was gonna this
is not This is not shade. But I find that,
you know, a lot of times when you talk to
these drivers, they tend to be a little bit bland
because they're very risk averse in front of media and
they've been very well trained to talk to media and
all these things, and you know, they can't do anything
(12:23):
really during the season except for drive and travel, so
sometimes it can be a little bit, a little bit
more of a bland conversation. But Ali was the opposite.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Yeah, he was.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
He was so nice to talk to, and I thought
we had so many kind of basic questions for him,
not what was your favorite color, but.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Kind of like, well, CARDI your drive.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
He rolled with it really well, and his answers were
very interesting too, because he genuinely cares about driving. He
genuinely cares about racing. And let's get into it. This
is Ali Barman from HAS.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Thank you for joining us. It's so nice to meet
you and see you.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Thank you very much for having me. It's a pleasure
to be here and really happy to be in Miami.
As well looking forward to the race.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
So I'm dying to know you're already in town. Can
you just walk us through what these early days are
like for you, both in terms of what you're eating
and what you're doing physically to just prep for the race,
and also mentally, I'm so fascinated by this.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Yeah, so I arrived last night. We got in a
bit earlier to this race. We have a few sponsorship commitments,
but that also allows us to prepare ourselves as best
as possible for the race. So, you know, first thing
is the time zone. We're six hours back here from Europe,
which is pretty significant. Personally, I like traveling west because it, yes,
just means you have to stay up. But every morning
(13:44):
I wake up a bit earlier than I probably would
have liked to, and this morning was no different. We
started off we tried to go cycling this morning, but
unfortunately we got a puncture, so unfortunately we switched to paddle,
which was our backup option. And yeah, just trying to
get used to the heat here. The humidity is very high,
(14:04):
you know, very different to what we used to in Europe.
So a few kind of light training sessions, you know,
for us of all getting to explore the surroundings because
it's a great place and really happy to be here.
That was the plan behind cycling, you know, we were
going to go down down to the beach and check
everything out. At the end, paddle was was a good
back up and good to get used to the weather
(14:26):
and time zone as well.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
I'm assuming you went home to England after being in
Saudi Arabia, so you're you're gradually making your way west. Okay,
not the UK.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
I live in Monaco, so that's an hour ahead, so
I would have been better off in the UK. But yeah,
I was. I was back home for for a few
weeks or a few days or even after after Jedda,
trying to reset a little and enjoy the time off.
And and then yeah, the flight here yesterday. It's a
(14:58):
long one. They they do feel long, but it's all
part of the fun.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Do you have any flight tips for the rest of us,
Like things you do or don't do on long flights
that you think, like, are you someone who takes melatonin
or doesn't eat certain things or tries to force yourself
to stay awake.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
I'm not super strict. It's pretty easy with flights west
because you pretty much just have to be awake when
you land, because you know, regardless you're going to be
tired after such a long trip. So I wasn't really
strict with myself. I had a few hours of sleep
on the plane because I was connecting through New York
(15:40):
and it was a long travel day. Anyway. It's a
bit more difficult when traveling east. You know, at the
start of the year, I had to go to Australia,
and there you really have to regiment yourself and force
yourself to stay up and then take melotone into sleep
and stuff. I'm just making sure that I have a
long Netflix series to watch and some noise canceling airphones
(16:01):
and then anger to go.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
I wonder about living in Monaco.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Does that start before you get a seat in Formula one,
or you know, does the prints offer you like a
condo once you get a car.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
I wish it was like that, but no, no, I moved.
I moved there just before moving to Formula one. And
it's the obvious choice really for athletes, you know, great
central location within Europe, great weather. Also for my training,
it's fantastic. There are so many athletes there that I'm
able to train with and cycling is my main kind
(16:40):
of sport outside of Formula One. And I think you know,
the roads there are some of the best, especially in Europe,
you know, to train, lots of elevation, lots of mountains,
so it's it's wonderful.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
So it's about I mean, I imagine some of it's
about taxes, but mainly you're saying the community.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Yeah, of course the tax is a big benefit, but
the main reason why I love being there so much
is because there is I have so many people there
that I know, so many like minded people as well,
so you're kind of being brought up by having, you know,
good company, people who are really successful in their own
(17:19):
respective sports. It's really nice to surround yourself with those people.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I also wonder about driving, like not on the track.
Do you have just a regular driver's license, like a
normal person.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Yes, yes, yes. I used to do a lot of
driving on the road when I was before I was
in formal one. I was kind of living in Monaco
but also in Italy, traveling back and forth a lot,
always by car, driving to some races as well, and
I just really love driving on the road. It's just
(17:52):
freedom and my passion. But with the amount of traveling
and stuff that we're doing this year, I'm trying to
keep the amount of hours I do on the road
to a minimum because we do plenty on the track
and in the simulator. But still, when it's when it's
a weekend and I have nothing to do, a nice,
nice you know, twenty minute drive along the coast is
(18:12):
always fun for me.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
So what's your ride?
Speaker 4 (18:15):
I have a Ferrari Roma Beautiful. I absolutely love it.
And yeah, very lucky to have a car like this.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
I love that car. I'm such a big fan. What
color is yours? Traditional red or something different?
Speaker 4 (18:29):
No, mine isn't gray. It's a bit a bit understated
and uh and sleek, and I think it's beautiful. It's
my first ever Ferrari and I want to keep it
forever because it has a very special place in my heart.
My first ever car was like one series BMW, so
it's a big step up from that.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
That's really big of.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
That car too.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Do you notice, beautiful?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Do you notice does it annoy you when you don't
get the kind of acceleration, the kind of breaking, the
kind of downforce or steering that you do in your
track car on the street yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
It's crazy and nothing. No car has impressed me ever
on the road, just because of how impressive the machines
are that we drive. I think, you know, one of
the cars that I drove which really impressed me was
the SF ninety Xxtradale, which is the kind of track
(19:27):
focused but road going model up from Ferrari, and that
was the closest I've ever felt to driving a Formula car.
But you know in the corners that there's nothing that
can compare to Formula One, and particularly when you take
a road car on the track, that's when you notice
the difference, because you know, on the roads you're not
able to go at speeds to really find the limit
(19:48):
of a road car, But when you take that car
on a track and then you compare it to Formula one,
you know, for example, when I'm breaking for this corner
in Formula one, I'm breaking in fifty meters and in
my road car it's three hundred meters. You know, It's
just everything is much slower and heavier. So it is
annoying because I can't really be massively impressed by anything.
(20:10):
But of course I'm very lucky to have such a
fantastic car on the racetrack.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Ollie, I'm so curious. It's interesting to talk about you
loving to actually drive like road cars. And it's funny
because sometimes I hear, oh, you know, there's a certain
generation of people who are in their late teens and
early twenties who aren't interested in driving at all, Like,
aren't interested in getting their driver's license. I'm just curious, Like,
(20:36):
what do you see around people your friends who aren't
aren't in Formula one? Do they still care about actually
like getting a driver's license and driving real cars.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Yeah, I think it's a big thing in my community
growing up. You know, the first guy to get his
driving license was always the coolest.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
You want him as a friend, for sure.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Exactly exactly, and was always one of the younger ones.
So it wasn't me the first one to get the license,
which which is quite ironic. But yeah, it's just such
a freedom liberating feeling, you know, Like I I used
to love and I still do, but I don't really
have time to do it anymore. But I would drive
across Europe, you know, from Italy back to the UK,
(21:23):
you know, these overnight trips. I just used to love driving,
and I still do, but especially when when I first
got my license, I would just drive, and a lot
of my friends are doing the same, just because it's
it's the first true feeling of freedom that you can get.
So when I when I see people nowadays without a
(21:44):
driving license, I kind of question what they're doing because
they're missing out on such a fantastic opportunity.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
How often can you drive on a track? I mean,
I don't know as much about F one as Hannah.
I'm more of a Moto GP guy, but I know
that they can't, you know, ride their bikes anymore than
everyone else in free practice and qualifying. But I've always wondered,
could you take your roma on the track? Can you
(22:13):
do track days with other people? If it's not you know,
in your Formula car?
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Can you do that?
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Of course, I mean we have no limits in other machinery.
Formula one we have very strict limits. There's no testing
allowed outside of race we can for obvious reasons. But
track days are some of the most fun days for
me because in a way, you can also practice what
you're doing because in a road car, everything, every everything
that happens on the track is magnified because everything happens
(22:42):
a bit more slowly, you have a bit more time
to feel things that are going on. So those track
days in road cars are some of the times that
I've learned the most about my driving and been able
to improve my driving the most, but also the most
fun as well. You know, I love taking my family
for passenger labs. I'm yet to get my mom in
the car, but I would love to do that, and
(23:04):
my girlfriend as well.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
But why are they saying no, Why aren't they jumping
at the chair.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Well, we didn't get the opportunity yet, but the second
it comes around, I'm I'm gonna put my mum in
the car and lock the door because I think she's
a little bit scared. But I love taking my dad
on track. I did it once in Magello in a Ferrari.
It was amazing. And you know, when you have people
(23:31):
like that in the car with you, you're pushing to
the absolute limit to try and get the life out
of them, to the point where sometimes I was scaring
even myself. It was so fun. And yeah, track days
in road cars, even even if you know performance wise
it's nothing that's Formula one, it is so much fun.
And I really say, for.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Those days, what's your favorite track. Do you have a
favorite one to drive?
Speaker 4 (24:05):
To drive, I really like the street circuits. Monaco is
an obvious choice. You know, it's a very historic track
but one of the most thrilling to drive, just because
of the risk and the adrenaline. But I also like
some of the more you know, historic tracks Magello springs
to mind, Suzuka, Japan, Silverstone as well. These kind of historic,
(24:28):
well known circuits also a blast to drive around.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
How do you deal with the risk?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
I mean, do you try not to think about the
potential of a crash? Is it something that you can't
not think about?
Speaker 4 (24:43):
I honestly, I think if you're thinking about it, then
you're already, you know, slower than the next guy. When
I'm in the car, risk or fear is not even
on my mind because I'm sure in my ability, and
you know, going will to will with the other drivers
is not a risk in my eyes, because you trust,
(25:03):
You put a lot of trust in them and they
do to you as well. And there's a there's a
very high level of respect between us as drivers because
you know, then we're the ones who are going out
there every weekend and risking our lives. But you know,
on the track, it's not really something that's that's in
your mind. But then again, you know, off the circuit,
(25:24):
we're looking at everything as drivers, everything we can to
improve the safety of the sport because that's what we want.
We want to be able to race as hard as
we can and not fear crash. And with the way
that the safety developments are going, we're really making fantastic progress.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
You mentioned the camaraderie of drivers. Have you had anyone
in particular offer you some great advice just as you know,
coming up through the ranks. I'd love to know, you know,
who's really said do this, don't do that, or watch
out for this thing.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
I mean, once you're in there, you're pretty much racing
against everyone. So as much as your your friends, they're
not They're not easy to give to get advice from,
because you know the end, everything that they give away
is lost almost But I'm really happy that they've been
very welcoming. You know, there's a there's a few of
US rookies this year, and everyone has been super welcoming
(26:22):
and and really kind and respectful to us as well.
And it's really a pleasure to share the circuit with
so many historic and talented drivers. You know a lot
of them who I've watched in my in my younger
years growing up, So it's really cool.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
It must be so mild with these guys.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Well, yeah, what what is it like to be racing
against the people that you were, you know, watching on
TV as as a younger driver.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
It's quite insane, especially you know, like Lewis, Fernando Alonso,
these guys were racing when I was born, almost and
every single Left One race I've watched has featured one
of them pretty much. But even you know, the guys
who seem younger, like Max, you know, twenty sixteen, he's
been in Formula one. I think even twenty fifteen, that
(27:13):
was when I was ten years old, so pretty much
my whole life that I can remember, I've been watching
these guys on TV. So now to share the track
with them in a way is very special and it's
definitely a dream come true.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
That means you have, judging by Lewis's career, at least
another twenty one years in this sport, right.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
I do hope, So I do hope. So you know,
he's proven to be one of the best that the
sport has ever seen. And if you can have that
level of motivation and performance, then I don't see why not.
I hope I'm able to perform at anywhere near a
level that he has to have such longevity in the sport.
(27:52):
But at the moment, it's such a huge passion of
mine that I want to perform as well as I
can and stay here for as long as possible.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
I think you're with Ferrari Driving Academy in Italy. Now
you're with Hawes, an American team, but you're British. Can
you just talk a little bit about what is it
like now with an American team? I mean you've got
such an international background, what's the culture like? How has
it been sort of blending in melding with that.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Yeah, it's been a lot of change. You know. First
of all, jumping to a Formula one team, there's so
many stuff. That's what I'm used to. Formula two. We
had maybe twelve, twelve to fifteen personnel, and you can
add a zero to that number for the Formula one team,
so it's insane to remember these people and everyone is
(28:41):
so specialized within Formula one, whereas in Formula two with
such little staff, everyone pretty much does everything so it's
definitely a big change. I've been used to working with
Italian people for a long time and it's different. You know.
Now we have a predominantly British team in terms of
members and personnel, which is nice for me because you know,
(29:03):
being British as there's always that extra relationship there. But
the guys have been super motivating to me and they've
really helped me, you know, build up on that experience
that I naturally miss out on being a rookie.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Does everybody ride bikes?
Speaker 2 (29:20):
You mentioned cycling is your other sport, Yeah, it just
I mean I imagine that is recommended to help you
with auto rates racing.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
But does everybody ride ride bikes to practice?
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Yeah? I mean there's a few of us, and if
you go to the circuit on a Thursday, you'll see
a lot of drivers doing a little training session around
the circuit on their bikes. I tend to ride a
little bit with a few other drivers, like Carlos Signs.
I've just helped Gabriel bal Toleta. I've persuaded him to
get a bike, so I'm going to get him out
(29:53):
there very soon. I think for me it's the best
way to train because you can stay in the same
heart rate zone as you are in the in the car,
you know, for two hours at a time. So it's
great and with all the amazing places we get to visit,
it's great scenery. So it would be silly to miss
out on that.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
What's the zone? Where's your heart rate when you're in
a race?
Speaker 4 (30:17):
It depends normally in a practice session, so if I'm
doing like a race simulation, my heart rate is around
one five, But jumping into a race, naturally that's up
at one sixty just because of the extra adrenaline. So
you know, you're burning close to two thousand calories during
the race, and the adrenaline just makes your heart rate
(30:39):
ten fifteen bpm higher. And also want a qualifying lap,
it tends to get even higher than that, just because
you're giving everything for a very short time and you're
not really thinking about breathing. You know, you're super focused,
and especially on those street tracks, the adrenaline can be insane.
It's nuts.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I'm really curious. Yeah, I mean, talk a little bit
about the Miami track. Obviously it's not through the streets,
but you mentioned humidity and heat in Miami. Are you
doing anything specific to help manage what might be a
very hot race this weekend.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Yeah, it's certainly going to be a hot race. There's
not much we can do against it. You know, the
humidity is the most influential factor in terms of your
body temperature and the physicality of a race, and this
is one of the more humid races of the season.
It's just because with you know, with the layers that
we're wearing, there's not much circulation of air. I can't
(31:40):
really wear a race foot on the bike, but I
try to, you know, keep myself warm and sweat it
all out. The good thing is that we can come
here a few days early and get used to the humidity.
Acclimatization is really important and definitely definitely for the later races.
You know, one one that stands out is Singapore, that's
one of the most amount races of the season. Yeah,
(32:02):
it's really important to get there a bit before, get
training in the heat, even if it's running or cycling.
Just getting your body used to, you know, losing that
amount of water. It's really useful.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
I'm surprised no one's developed a cooling suit.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Yeah, this is a new development that we have so
it's in early early kind of trials, but we've been
able to use that in a few practice sessions so
far this year, and this has been quite a game
changer for us, you know, in terms of in terms
of cooling. But it's very difficult to keep it cool
for the entire race, you know, for two hours that
(32:39):
the car gets so hot at the moment it's it's
kind of a block of ice with cold water running
through it. But you know, as the laughs go on,
it warms up and the ice melts. So yeah, but
it's been really really good to try this. I tried
it in Saudi, you know, that's a night race, so
it's a little bit easier. But I expect Miami to
be a big physical challenge. And even if the circuit
(33:01):
itself isn't the most demanding physically, it's not got a
lot of high speed corners or hygi areas, there's still
a lot of walls close by, and you need one
hundred percent focus for that entire time, and it's tough
to stay, you know, fully on it with that amount
of temperature and sweat. Yeah, it's not easy.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Ali, I want to ask about rule changes or I
don't know the car design the formula, Like, is there
anything that if you were the boss, or if you
could raise any kind of formula, would you change anything.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
I think between us as drivers there's a bit of
a push towards the FIA, which kind of decide, you know,
how the cars look and how the direction of the
of the regulations go. We're kind of pushing to make
the cars a bit lighter because over the last ten
years we've gained a lot of weight, you know, including
the hybrid system, the cars have gotten bigger and just
(33:59):
a bit less nim and you know, I've done a
few test days with slightly older Formula One cars and
even just thirty forty kilos is quite a game changer
in terms of weight, and at the moment where probably
one hundred and fifty kilos heavier than we would like
to be than we were maybe ten or fifteen years ago.
(34:20):
Of course, some of that is coming from the increased safety,
but I think the push from the drivers is to
have slightly lighter and more nimble cars and a bit
smaller ones as well, because you know, sometimes when we
get to these tight street circuits, nothing happens because the
cars are too big and too heavy. That you can't
really do anything with them. So that's really the main
(34:43):
target over the next five or so years. I think
that's what we want as drivers, and I think it
will make the racing even better as.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Well, the risk of asking the obvious. Lighter and more
nimble means you can do more passing, right, which is
more exciting.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Yeah, I think so. And it's really difficult to have
take at the moment. The cause heavy and that makes
the tires overheat quite easily. When you're following other cars.
You can't really do many different lines in the slow
corners because the causes are too heavy to do that.
So I think that's why I really believe that with
a lighter car the racing would be even better, because
(35:18):
at the moment it's great, but I think we have
a step to do that.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
I mean this kind of follows on that note. What
do you think about the other series? I mean, obviously
Formula one is the pinnacle, Apex predator of automotive racing,
But do you ever watch you know, NASCAR or Indie
or Supercar or any of the other Moto GP for example,
(35:45):
Is there anything.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Else endurance races?
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Yeah, I'm a big fan of racing in general, so
you know, I try to watch as much as possible
formerly E as well. I'm yeah a big fan of
Motiport and a lot of my kind of friends or
people that I've met over the years are in these
different championships formerly E Whack IndyCar, and you know, they
(36:10):
provide some entertaining racing as well, which is fantastic, particularly
you know the Indy five hundred La Mon twenty four.
These are standout races that I would not miss for
a thing. But even you know, the old IndyCar race,
I try my best to tune in. Of course, the
timings aren't easy being in America. Yeah, it's it's really
(36:30):
cool and some of the things I'm doing over there
is a fantastic as well. And yeah, the racing looks
really cool, which is what I like as a racing fan.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
It must have been so interesting for you to see,
sort of. I mean, we talk about a lot this
rise of the popularity of Formula one to really grow
in the US. Obviously it's been massive in Europe and
for years and years, but it is sort of a
new thing to like big US populations. What do you
make of that? I mean, is it like, Wow, we're
(37:01):
finally waking up to it or I don't know, I'd love.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
To hear I think so. I mean, Netflix has done
a fantastic job for our sport in terms of advertising it,
especially to the US market. You know, now we have
three races in the US, or I guess five if
you include Mexico and Canada, you know, and five races
in North America, which is really really cool, and you know,
(37:27):
in some really fantastic locations Vegas here in Miami now
as well. It's it's really really cool. And I'm glad
that F one is getting the exposure that it deserves
in the US because it's a huge market, a huge audience,
and I think we can, we can continue to bring
fantastic racing to the US market, and hopefully they can
(37:48):
they have someone to cheer for this weekend as well.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Well. We will be cheering for you for sure.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Ali.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
It's really been so nice talking with you. Thank you
for making the time.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
I appreciate it. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Good luck.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Are you not going to the race? Are you not going? No?
Speaker 1 (38:03):
I'm not going this year.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Weird because I think about Miami and I think about
Formula one and I think about, what's that Italian restaurant
that has like the pop up down.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
There, Gibriani no Carbone.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Carbone, Yes, oh yeah, yeah yeah. Aren't they the one
that has like the thousand dollars ahead? Yes, And I
feel like you're there.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Well, I mean I've I've been there. I've been there.
I'm actually kind of okay not going this year. I've
gone in the past and it is really fun. And
I have friends in Miami that I love seeing. But
you know, sometimes you have to prioritize where you're traveling
because I've got a child, I've got a dog. I
can't just travel all the time everywhere. So this was
(38:48):
one of the times where I thought, I'm I'm going
to pass on that, but I will be following along. Yeah,
I think I'm going to plan to go for sure
to the Vegas Race. I actually really genuinely enjoy going
to the race in Vegas. It's so easy for an
F one race to get around.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Yeah, I don't. I mean, I've been to a couple
of F one races and they were kind of like
life changing experiences because they were my first big automotive
racing experiences, like I hadn't ever been to NASCAR or
anything like that before either. I think I went to
my first race at Hawkenheim Ring in two thousand, okay,
so twenty five years ago, and it's the sound and
(39:28):
the way it hits you in the chest that to
me was like the most yeah, jaw dropping thing.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
It's true, it's really an assault on the senses. And
if you are, like if you go to qualifying and
you go to the race and you're out there all
day in the elements. I just remember anytime I've gone
coming back to the hotel and being completely shot, Like
your senses are just kind of like the sun, the noise,
just everything. The alcohol. Yeah, it's just a lot on
(39:57):
your body.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
No, it's like a fish. It's like going to a
fish concert for sure. And there's no like downtime. There's
no relaxing part of it.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
And it is really exciting.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
But the thing is, I don't feel like I need
to go anymore, Like even if I get into Formula
one again, which probably isn't going to happen. You know what,
if you just follow yeah, I'll just follow him. But yeah,
I still wouldn't want to go necessarily to the races
because it's you get a much better picture of the
situation watching it on TV.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Completely, Like, honestly, I learned so much more listening to
the announcers on TV that like, yeah, unless you're even
even when I've been in the press pool at Formula one,
and that's a whole different thing. You're literally in a
back conference room watching it on TV like you're at
the race. But a lot of a lot of guys
and ladies just watch the race on TV in the
(40:52):
press room.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
I mean we go to motor racing, yeah, and when
we lived in Europe, we were going to all of
them on the continent, and that was because of the
sense of community, like yes, you know, we know the
people on the teams and the drivers, the pilots, and
but when it comes to race time, yes, I'm in
front of the TV. So I'm happy to walk around
(41:15):
the path, like I'm happy to say hi to everybody.
I'm happy to look at all the new bikes and
be in the in the you know, the areas where
they uh where they show new products and stuff. But
when it comes to the actual race, I just want
to sit in front of the big screen, same.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Same, And it's honestly, it's tough because a lot of
the time, a lot of the other really nice people
at the race are not there, either working or actually
interested in watching, so they are trying to chat with
you and like party and have and it's really distracting.
I'm the same, I'd rather just like have some headphones
on and really focus. It's true.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Yeah, what are you got going on this weekend? Then?
What are you? And will are doing? Well?
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Willow and I are prepping the house because next week
Magnus is eighty something year old mother and his niece
are coming to stay with us for two weeks, so
we're gonna have house guests. They're coming from Scotland and England,
and so this weekend is all about, you know, doing
some laundry and the cleaning and getting ready. But the
(42:13):
fun thing is we are going to take them to Vegas,
which will be really fun and exciting. Neave, the niece
has never been to California, never been to Vegas.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Amazing, she's eighteen, amazing.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Yeah, so so we're kind of in prep mode for that.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Actually, I love showing young adults like these amazing cities.
And I guess she's probably well, she's probably the right age,
but not with you. I feel like in Vegas what
you want to do is shrooms and then go to like.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
May we need to see who's playing the spear. I mean,
I got to check that check schedule. Yeah, so I
don't know. We're going to take some drives. We're gonna
drive to Vegas for one thing, but we're also going
to take some drives just around.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
What will you drive to Vegas?
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Actually getting a press car. It's a Mercedes. It's going
to be one of the e electric sedans, the EQS,
So that will be a very interesting drive.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
I think.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
I don't think it's going to make it on one charge.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Actually probably not, but I think it charges quickly, the EQS.
And I'm sure you've driven it before, but I it's
very luxurious to me. It's like slipping into.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Another and they didn't do you know, those cars didn't
do great for Mercedes, but I thought they were good.
They are very luxurious.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
I always say this, but it's like it's like a
Moroccan palace because on the outside it doesn't look like
anything at all, right, and when you get inside, you're.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
Like, oh my god, that's this is amazing.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
I have I'm also test driving a Mercedes and Electric
Mercedes this weekend. It just showed up my driveway this morning,
but I haven't turned it on yet, but it won't
make any noise obviously. It's the g g oh oh.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
I cannot wait to hear what you think.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
Yeah, I don't know how I feel about it.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
To be are, yes, I feel like you're gonna feel
a lot of different feelings. Yeah, like are you going
into it any which way in your mind?
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Well, So, I had an interesting experience in that I
drove the Cadillac Escalade IQ, this giant electrical thing that
I've been looking forward to for so long.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
We had a slight disagreement on that, and I didn't.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Really like it that much. I mean, I love being
in a big, giant Cadillac because it's obviously incredibly luxurious.
I didn't love the driving experience at all, to be honest.
And then last week I had I drove kind of
the opposite thing in the same category. I drove the
Nissan Armada, which is which shouldn't be terribly luxurious, right
(44:42):
It has like black plastic buttons. It feels like an
uber kind of but I one hundred percent love the
body on frame, like truck feeling of it. There's something
nostalgic about it. It was handling really well, and I
didn't even mind the turbocharged whatever six cylinder motor, which
wasn't impressive, but it was just like I was driving
(45:04):
a truck, you know, and internal combustion engine truck, and
I really really liked it, even though it had so
many flaws. The interior is not designed well, you know,
the front end definitely looks like it's got Japanese styling,
which doesn't really work on this big kind of range
rover sized truck. But I just really liked it. I
(45:27):
think I liked it even more because it was in
comparison to this electric probably escalade.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
So I don't know, interesting, So now the G will
be really interesting.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
You know how much I love the gas version of
the G Wagon and the previous G five hundred slash
G five point fifty with the four liter V eight,
I loved it. I lived with it for two years
and thirty thousand miles, and so I don't know how'm
Gonya feel about the electric.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Do you have any trails around where you live that
you can actually make it off road a bit?
Speaker 2 (46:01):
I have that off road road. Remember when I had
the Lamborghini Hurrican Strado and they said I wasn't allowed
to take it off road. So then my neighbor Eric
found the oldest unpaved road in America, the New Albany
Post Road. So I suppose I could take it up there.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
You should try. You should just just to try it.
But there's that three hundred and sixty degree you know,
like party trick that it does.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
What does it? Oh?
Speaker 1 (46:27):
All, yeah, like goes like that.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm sure it's going to be amazing.
Maybe I'll be really into it. I like other electric vehicles.
I always tell people I love the EV nine and
you like it too, and so I do. And I
love the I loved the Hummer, I loved the GMC
Sierra EV. So I like big electric trucks.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
M yeah, for the most part. Oh well, you know
I I I'm not against Eve's, but I am against
doing something for no reason. I'll put it that way.
Speaker 4 (47:06):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
Like I I would be happy if everyone rode bicycles
everywhere and then we just had a few vintage cars
to drive for fun. I mean, I don't I'm not like,
on the face of it, I don't need a car
to be happy. This is why I say I'm not
actually a car person.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Yeah, to be happy. And I don't want anyone riding
bicycles on the road.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
I think everyone should just ride a bicycle and then
everyone is allotted one vintage car to drive on the weekend.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
I feel differently about this thing.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
I know you do, but I mean, don't you think
the reason why Holland has all these high happiness ratings
is because they all ride bikes.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
I mean I think it's because weed has been legal
for so long.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
There, right, tomato, tomato?
Speaker 2 (47:51):
All right, So I hope you had an excellent weekend.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
I'm going to uh go home and get into this
g I eighty and see what I think. And I'm
going to watch Ali Bermonty hopefully do well in F
one in Miami.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
I think he's doing so great his first year out and.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
He's only a little kid. What is he like nineteen?
Speaker 1 (48:12):
He's nineteen. Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
To be nice. You should introduce him to your niece.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
Oh yes, actually, yes, okay, noted, noted, I'm writing that down.
Yeve call me.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
I'm Matt Miller and.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
I'm Hannah Elliott. And this is Bloomberg
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