November 14, 2025 • 43 mins
Buick and GMC Global VP Jaclyn McQuaid joins the podcast. Plus, Matt's Porsche quest continues.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'm Hannah Elliott and I'm Matt Miller. This is Hot
Pursuit coming up on today's podcast, get Ready to hear
Me gush about trucks. I had a chance to sit
down with the global VP of GMC and Buick, Jacqueline McQuaid,
a fascinating interview about growing up in Detroit, about learning
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to drive with a suburban, about basically taking over general
knows me short of being CEO and president, She's done
pretty much everything. And I got to drive the new
GMC Sierra ev at four Max range, which is gigantic
and super luxurious. But first, are you working on something
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in particular?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Hannah?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Currently this week, I had a great chance to sit
down with Adrian von HOYDNK, who's the head of design
for BMW, and talk about their new IX three. It's
part of their Noya Classic maybe you can say that
better at German uh okay good their new series of
electric vehicles. And he was really interesting. And then you know,
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tonight Bentley is going to be unveiling a very exciting
car that I think you're gonna love. Matt, So I've
been talking a lot with Bentley this week in anticipation
of this debut, which I think we can talk about
because by the time this Ronsie embargo will have lifted.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah, I mean so. And also we will have talked
to Frank Stefan Balliser because you booked the CEO of
Bentlee and obviously famous for having worked at Portia where
he designed the nine eighteen. By the way, I just
googled the nine eighteen to look at it for a
little while and it's still so gorgeous.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
It's right.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I every time I see those guys, I feel like
this pest. But I'm like, when are we going to
see something like the nine to eighteen again? Likering bring
us something like that?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Not at Bentley, right, I mean no.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
No, but let's not forget. And obviously, as you know,
Frank comes straight from Porsche Motorsport to us, and he's
already leaving his fingerprints on Bentley and with this new vehicle.
And we can go into it now if we want.
This is Bentley's new supersports. You'll be very happy to hear.
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It's rear wheel drive V eight non hybrid, pure internal
combustion engine, over six hundred and fifty horse power, it's
a real screamer. I think I haven't driven it, but
it's going to be. I think we want it to be.
And I think what you're what you're seeing is Frank
sort of injecting Bentley with some of that Porsche Motorsport stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I mean, first of all, thank you for booking him
on my television show, and we'll do that interview. So
by the time this comes out, we will have been
on internationally broadcast live television together, no big deal and
a deep tease. Next week we're gonna have him on
the podcast. So that's cool. But just to go into
what they're showing you tonight, I'm excited about it because supersport,
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because V eight, because for a real world drive, for
all the reasons you mentioned. But this isn't I mean,
he just signed up, so it's not like this is
the Frank Stefan Wallaser car yet. No, so he hasn't
had time. It takes a few years at least to
put a car from pen and paper to you know,
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iron and resin, so it's gonna be a while.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Completely this is we should actually Frank time flies. Frank
started in twenty twenty four e Bentley, so he's been.
He's been I think it was July July or August
twenty twenty four, so Frank's been with Bentley. But you're right,
this is a really big ship to turn, as you know,
the life cycles of cars are multiple years long, and
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so yeah, it's going to take time. I think he's
you know, uh, taking the long view as our German
friends typically do, which is good and you know, I
can't wait to hear more from him. We should say
we are recording this podcast on Thursday afternoon. The event,
the reveal event is tonight Thursday night, and then we're
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going to talk to Frank tomorrow on TV on Friday,
and then the podcast will go live after that. So
we've got to we've got to get our chronology straight
for everything we're talking about here.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
But yeah, I think.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
It's this is like the first little taste of what
This is an indication of where Bentley wants to be going.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
I think that's the best way to read it.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
This is an intent from them to basically say, you know,
they're still going to do VDA, They're still going to
do an internal combustion, so going to make cars that
you're going to want to drive. The rear wheel drive alone,
I think is exciting. It's the first time we've seen
on a supersports. All of those are indicators about where
the company intends to go.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
By the way, I hope, well, I mean, he's the
industry genius, and I'm just a guy who looks at
cars on the Internet and stuff. But I hope apropos
your story for pursuits a couple of weeks ago that
they simplify things a little bit or they continue to
because everything that I drive, but certainly also the Bentley's
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that they're coming out with now, they're so complicated, right,
and so much works through the screen, the infotainment system,
and they have all these turbochargers and all wheel drive
systems and automatic transmissions, and it's just like, I really
have this urge to go back to the basics. That's
why I'm fretting over this air cooled nine to eleven
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search that I've talk about it as I.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Am now taking up for you, Matt, because I'm hearing
about your search from my people in my circle who
are trying to get to you and tell you what
they think through me, which is a whole other thing.
But just to your point, about the technology. You know,
Bentley's not alone in this. And going back to the
time I spent with BMW and Adrian on Hoydank this
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week in la at their design studio in Santa Monica,
Adrian was making the same point, and Bentley has this
thing that they call shy tech, which is their phrase
for technology that doesn't get in the way of living
and enjoying. And they are supremely aware that not all
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new tech is necessary or necessarily welcomed by consumers. So
it is interesting to see with this I x three
that they debuted, it is scaled back from just greens
everywhere and nothing tangible. They do have like tactile points
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in the car because they're realizing what you say, which
is there needs to be some sort of communication between
the car and the human that does not involve just
a screen basically. So it's it's fascinating to think about.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, I mean, it's just I think it's gone overboard
and a lot of manufacturers are trying to turn it around.
And to your point, it's a huge tanker, right, you
can't turn it around the same way you would a
sunfish like I was as a case in point, I
was driving a range Rover Sport last week, the SV,
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which is an amazing power plant I think, you know,
in collaboration with the BMW now, but and an incredibly
luxurious vehicle. The design is not necessarily to my taste.
I like the full blooded range Rover rather than the Sport.
But this thing is you know, expensive, and it's got
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a lot of real leather and wood in it and
carbon carbon fiber wheels on this SB and it's fast
and it handles well. The biggest problem I had was
the enfotainment system. Like everything including the HVAC was through
the screen. You couldn't you couldn't change any of that stuff.
And the enfotainment system is the last thing I want
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to worry about. It's the last thing I want to
care about. I would rather buy a car that doesn't
have one, you know, And that's you know, what I'm
working on doing right now. But I'm sure that the
people at land Rover, just like the people at probably
at Bentley, at Porschet, Mercedes everywhere BMW, want to reverse
that trend because they realize the pendulum has swung too far.
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And of course you're gonna want to sell everyone's gonna
want a navigation system or most people will want one,
So you're gonna have to have a screen, but you
want to have a volume knob, you want to have
HVAC controls, you want to be able to quickly push
a button for something like I don't know a camera system.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
So yeah, and here's here's some one of the challenges
and part of the problem I think why they get
tripped up. Buyers in China are very happy to have
their cars. Basically like computers. They do not have the
same feelings necessarily in general, that we have about wanting
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some sort of tactile engagement. And for a long time,
automakers thought China was the future for their company, so
they created they started creating cars that were geared toward
consumers who appreciated their car like they might appreciate a
video game console with it, but like interfacing with the
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video game. Now that China has proven to be a
very very tough nut to crack and to compete with,
especially for automakers like BMW and Mercedes and Portia, now
they're kind of like reh having to rethink all of
that because buyers are different in China, and if China's
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not going to be this cash cow that they thought
it was now what you know, So I still there's
a lot of a lot of indecision and uncertainty about
how to pivot from here their experience.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
It's interesting that you mentioned that the video game thing,
because in my deep dive on all things nine to eleven,
I've read a lot about engineers designing the electronic assist
steering system for the nine to nine one generation, which
is when they went away from the hydraulic assist rack
and pinion, and the biggest concern was that it would
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feel like a video game. So they wanted to get
it right in terms of still having that real connection
with the road feeling, and I think they did a
pretty good job of that. We're going to take a
quick break. We come back. We'll talk about my search
for a new nine to eleven, although I obviously want
probably a very old one, and we'll talk about the
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person behind some of my all time favorite trucks, my
one on one with GMC Global VP Jacquelin McQuaid. That's
all coming up right after this. I'm Matt Miller along
with Hannah Elliott. You're listening to Hot Pursuit. So when
I was growing up Audi and Porsche for the same dealership,
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just to make a little segue here. And you know,
as I said, my dad had an Audi, but we
would go to dealership and I would lust over these Porschas,
and I guess they must have been Carrera three point
two's that generation, you know, early eighties kind of thing.
And so I don't know what spurred it, but I
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got really interested as we talked about last week in
this America Roadster, which is a nine to sixty four
on bring a trailer last week, and then it went
for what I felt like was a too cheap of
a price. And then that got me thinking, like why
don't I have an air cooled nine to eleven? Like
why have I never experienced this thing? And I've always
kind of made fun of these leftka cooled people, like
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this this cult right around air cooled.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
And the left of Coult.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
It's really a cult, right because you watched the YouTube
videos and these guys like not only did I get
a great car, but I landed a great group of friends,
and like, I've met so many people through this car.
That's the That's not what I want to do with
a car, you know, I want to drive it, but
I want to hear it, and I want to smell it,
and I want to feel it, and I want to
be a little bit scared. And I don't know why
I've never really checked them out, Like when I did
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buy a nine to eleven ten years ago, but I
immediately went for the newest model for the nine to
nine to one, which I absolutely loved and I never
had any mechanical problems. It was so reliable, so fast,
handled so well. But I want something that's a little
maybe a little bit less reliable, not quite as fast,
and it doesn't it's a little more dangerous.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
That sounds funny me.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I mean, first of all, I have to say that
the love of as you know, air cooled Porsche's existed
far before lefticle. The difference is that the guys driving
in were like the our group guys out in California,
who were these grizzled old dudes who were like die
hard not cool old guys. And those guys were actually cool.
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They were so uncool they were not they were cool.
I mean, all of that existed before all of the
hipsters came. And you know, so like I like the
idea of tapping into that, like the pre leftical like
die hard love of it, which was cool, and those
guys didn't care about it. They weren't creating content with
their cars. They they they didn't you know, they didn't
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even have cell phones. They were just out driving. Yeah no,
like that's actually like legit and og and very cool.
So like I totally agree with that. I have to
say I did get an earful from our our bosom buddy,
Steve Serio, who had to tell me that the car
that got away your moby Dick, he read through it
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and it had been in an accident and that may
have led to the reduced price.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, well you know that I.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Have particular vehicle might not have been as great as
you thought.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
That's true, and I hope I can find one for
less money, because I don't want to necessarily pay that much.
I will say in terms of accident cars, because I'm
now I'm looking at literally every car that's for sale,
literally every Pea car. My nine to eleven that I
had for almost ten years. I also had got into
an accident. A truck ran into my left ear quarter
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panel when I was parked, and it resulted only in
you know, a big old dent which I immediately had
repaired with all original parts from Stuttgart and at the
Porsche dealer, so which was an expensive endeavor. But by
the time I went to sell it, it obviously had
the accident on It's on the car facts or whatever
you call it, and that made me think, like, I'm
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not going to avoid all cars of it into an
accident because a lot of cars have been in accidents
and that doesn't mean there's frame damage or you.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Know, yeah, I mean I guess, yeah, if if it's
not I was going to say, if it's not something
that you're hoping that is an investment, oh, I don't care.
But then but yeah, because every racing car has been
in multiple incidents and you know, it's like whatever, I'm
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kind of with you on that. And I should also
say both Steve and then one of our readers or listeners.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Don Don is an amazing resource. He's already proven an
amazing resource.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah, yeah, well he of course, now they're sending I
know you saw it additional America roadsters that I think
we all are rooting for you, Like now I'm having
feel these things on behalf of you.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Well, thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
They're so much good.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
There's so much goodwill for you finding one.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Well, you know what the thing is that I've realized
probably one of the reasons that people get so into
this and so obsessed is because there's so much there.
And of course part of the joy of U of
cars is the chase. Right, So now I'm like, maybe
these are expensive, these nine to six fours. Maybe I
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want an sc which are maybe a little more you know, affordable,
Or maybe I want a Carrera three point two because
it has that classic look that I fell in love with.
Or maybe I even want a nine to nine three
because it's the end of the line, although I don't
like the way the head lamps slide by. And then
I start thinking about, oh, the early ones have torsion suspension,
then they got coil over shocks, and the early ones
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have totally direct steering. Later you get a hydraulic assist,
and there's so many variables that there's like a million
things to learn and sink your teeth into. This is
all just to say, I kind of wanted to pitch
our list listeners on if we did a whole show
that was just a buyer's guide, a nine to eleven
buyer's guide with someone who knows a lot of stuff,
like Steve Cirio, or maybe Magnus would join us, or
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maybe this guy Nathan Mertz, Like I wonder if people
would care, would want to listen to that.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I'm sure they would, And I think we should do
it with you know whatever expert. Maybe we get a multiple,
maybe we have multiple, maybe we I don't know how
we do it, but sounds great to me. I think
you're right, right and tell us everybody like hot Pursuit
at Bloomberg dot net.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
I think you're right and we should do it.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah, Hot Pursuit at Bloomberg dot net. Should I buy
a car with a nine to fifteen transmission? Or do
I have to have the G fifty? Okay, that's enough
of that. We are going to talk about other automakers
because I did get to sit down with Jacqueline McQuaid
and I did get to talk with her about she
is such a truck person, but also like she's an engineer,
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she's worked in and paint. She oh, she was in
charge of making the Cadillac Escalade V.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
So she made probably, I mean, my favorite SUV. I
don't know if it's I haven't thought about it long
enough to say, of all time, but that is a
behemoth with a super charged American V eight like I
love it. And she's run Europe, you know, so she's
run entire continental businesses for them, and now she's back
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home at GMC. We'll check out my interview right after
this Welcome back to Bloomberg Hot Pursuit. I had a
chance to sit down with Jacqueline McQuaid, who is a
lifelong Michigander. She even has two degrees from the University
of Michigan, which you know that, Hannah. I am an
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Ohio State fan, so it's kind of hard so.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
To talk to her.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
It's so weird because I love to go to Detroit.
I love to talk to people in the car industry,
in the American car industry, and they inevitably went to
U of M or they're Spartys, and I prefer the latter,
but as is someone from Ohio. You know, there's an
old story of the OSU football team driving back from
ann Arbor to Columbus after a game and they ran
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out of gas and Woody the coach made them get
out and push because they were close enough to the
border where they could buy Ohio Gas rather than Michigan Gas.
I'm sure it's not true.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
But I hope it is true.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
I love that anyway. Jacqueline is awesome, and to be fair,
Michigan has won against Ohio State for the last four
years in a row, but that's coming to an end
this year. She is an engineer. She has worked in purchasing,
she has worked in product. I mentioned that she ran
the Cadillac Escalade V product and she ran the continent
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of Europe. Now she is the global VP of GMC
and Buick. Let's listen into my interview with Jacquelin McQuaid. Jacqueline,
first of all, thank you so much for joining us.
It's a real pleasure to have you. You have an
incredible resume, but it's all at one company. It's all
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at General Motors pretty much, right, because you started there
straight out of University of Michigan and have done everything
from interning at paint shop as far as I know,
to running a continent. So tell us about your journey,
like how you got started there to begin with.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Yeah, it's literally been all at General Motors. You're absolutely right.
I started before I graduated from your University of Michigan.
I started as an intern, so your data is accurate.
I was an intern in paint engineering back when I
was GOSH. Summer after sophomore year of college, I interned
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with GM so I did one summer in paint engineering,
which was actually really fascinating. They tend to hire more
chemical engineers and I was mechanical. But when you think
about what the design studio does to come up with
these really unique colors, and our design studio, they're watching
New York Fashion Week, They're following European fashion. They're really
projecting fashion into automobiles. When you think about interior and
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exterior design, and exterior color is something that just gives
an impression of a vehicle when you first see it
on a lot or driving down the road. So there's
a lot of design work that goes into that. Paint
engineering then gets the task of actually creating that color
and creating it in a way that's color fast and
that can match across different mediums as you're painting from
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the vehicle body to maybe the fender, etc.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
And it was fascinating.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
I had no idea that that even existed when I
went to u OF I'm getting a mechanical engineering degree
with an emphasis and automotive. So it ended up not
being maybe where I wanted to take my career, but
it was really an interesting in place to start with
general motors.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I mean, I don't want to spend too much time
on paint because you have gone from engineering to product
purchasing to as I said, you know, continental leadership, but
I find it fascinating as well, and just having spent
time on a factory floor, Like the amount of space
that paint takes up, you know, compared to everything else,
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is pretty substantial, and it's a pretty important part of
buying a car. When you see a vehicle that speaks
to you a lot of times it's the color and
the quality of the paint I think as someone who
cares a lot about cars, is important. And you can
also see changes through different periods of time, like sometimes
for some reason, the public only wants grays and black
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and white, and sometimes like GM now is making crazy
purples and oranges. And even on the conservative I would say,
you know, trucks are more conservative than say a corvette, right,
But even on the trucks that you make, you have
these greens and these smoky blues, how have you noticed
the demand changing over time for what people want in
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terms of paint colors.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Well, yeah, I mean, at the end of the day,
a vehicle is a very emotional purchase. You got people
that love their vehicles. You've got people that name their vehicles.
My daughter would hug her vehicles, she just loved it.
And so these are emotional purchases. And it really starts
with how does a vehicle make you feel when you
first see it?
Speaker 3 (23:29):
And the paint color has a lot to do with that.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
Obviously the styling next to your styling does as well.
We could talk a lot about the new Buig styling
with the Wildcat concept vehicle that is now flowing through
to the entire lineup. But it is an emotional purchase.
It should make you feel something. If it doesn't, you
pick the wrong vehicle. And it starts with the paint.
It really does. And now you've got these Mate paint
colors that are all the rage, and you go out
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a factory zero and you look at what we're doing
in the hummer and we're painting these Mate paints. Actually,
funny enough, when I first started summer of nineteen ninety
eight as an intern in paint engineering. I was at
Detroit hand Tranmic Assembly, which is now Factory zero, where
I spent a lot of time now as a VP
of GMC. So my careers kind of come full circle
back to that same manufacturing plant, albeit completely read on
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now that it's building electric vehicles, but it really the
vehicle should make you feel something emotionally when you see it,
and if it doesn't, you should keep looking.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
So all right, paint, I think is really cool, and
you obviously do a fantastic job of it there. But
what did you move to next? Did you go to
purchasing next? Did you go to product?
Speaker 1 (24:39):
No?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Purchasing? Right?
Speaker 5 (24:40):
Well, so I started when I hired in full time,
I hired it into engineering, and I spent the first
thirteen years and a lot of different engineering fields. So
my engineering degree both masters and bachelor's as a mechanical
So I started in a space called roadload data acquisition.
So effectively, you are instrumenting the vehicle with all different transducers,
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load cells, LVDTs, accelerometers, et cetera, and you're taking the
vehicle out on test roads and you're seeing how is
the vehicle responding when it's going over different road surfaces,
when it's going through a pothole, when it's going over
Belgian blocks, or it's doing you know, extreme turning maneuvers.
How is it flexing? Where are the stress points in
the frame? How are you engineering the right failure mode
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so that it fails safely? And so I spent a
couple of years doing that, And I would say while
getting an engineering degree from Michigan was great, it was
really GM that taught me how to engineer a vehicle.
Those first couple of years working in roadload data acquisition
gave me such in depth understanding of vehicle dynamics and
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how to engineer a vehicle for the type of vehicle
feel and ride dynamics that General Motors wants. And we
have a va I would say, unique way of integrating
our vehicles. And when you're driving a GM vehicle, you
know that you are in one. And whether that's as
Chevy feels like a Chevy, Buick feels like a Buick,
a Cadillac feels like a Cadillac. We definitely have a
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dynamic approach to our vehicles. And so I spent time there.
I went from there to vehicle dynamics, to right and
handling I spent time and noise and vibration. I released
components for the vehicle exhaust systems on full sized trucks.
I worked in Tyron wheel Systems. I was an engineering
group manager and breaks. So all of my engineering background
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was very chassis based and very vehicle dynamics based, and
I did that for about thirteen years, and then I
went over to purchasing.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
So all right, well, this is a I want to
talk about the rest of your career, but this is
a perfect time to talk about because of that experience
my week in the Sierra EV I had the max
range eighty four last week, and I was absolutely blown
away by the effortless feel of the throttle because it's
obviously a very heavy vehicle. I don't know how much
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it weighs, but maybe nine thousand pounds, right, And previously,
my favorite truck, as I told you, we had lunch
a couple of weeks ago here in New York, and
I told you my favorite vehicle was the Chevy Silverado,
the H the twenty five D, the HD ZR two
that had the six point six Leader Diesel V eight,
Because that power train just feels like it motivates any
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kind of weight in a Rolls Royce like luxurious way,
and this I thought was even better. I don't know,
because of the instant torque, because of the massive power.
It was just more than adequate. And I never cared
really about the numbers. I don't even know what the
horsepower and torque is, but I'm sure they're mind blowing.
The other thing I noticed about that truck beyond the
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luxury stuff that you guys have put inside, and honestly,
I was thinking of I was thinking of comparisons I
always do to Rolls Royce because that was the first,
like amazing luxury ride I ever had. And even the
stitching the fabric that you guys do in this truck
is like su super elite in a way, you know,
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like it's almost an art, a work of art. And
I'm sure it's not handmade, but it looks like it
could be. And then and then I noticed the NVH
is flawless. And I've driven a lot of other I've
driven other companies, let's say big EV trucks, and the
NVH is not flawless. So you guys have done something
that I don't think anyone else has achieved. And I
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haven't even gotten to the range yet, right, because it's
over four hundred miles. I have to say, you must
be proud of that vehicle.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Yeah, super proud of that vehicle. So I'm glad to
hear you were in the eight four. That's actually my
daily driver. So I'm in a cer EV eight four,
So I understand exactly what you're saying and completely agree.
It really comes down to the initial engineering of the vehicle.
When we set out to do an electric truck, we said, okay,
we're going to do it right, and we're going to
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do purpose built electric truck from the ground up. And
when you do that, you can engineer in the dynamics
and the NVA to the vehicle from the beginning. So
you get the batteries down low, you create a really
low center of gravity. The way that truck handles for
a vehicle that large, the way it handles, the.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Vehicle dynamics of it.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
Yeah, it's incredible because we've really created the structure of
the vehicle using the batteries. They weren't an afterthought, They
actually create the vehicle structure, and so you've got great
structure to it.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
As a result of that. This truck zero to sixty
and like four point five seconds.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
It's crazy moving that much masks, but it was engineered
to do that. And then from an MVH perspective, when
you think about an electric vehicle, and I spent a
lot of years doing NVH at GM. I did it
for over four years here, all on full sized truck.
You think that when you do an electric vehicle, you're
doing something great because you're taking all that engine noise out.
The reality is, engine noise masks a lot of other noises,
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and when you take that engine noise out, you have
the risk of other noises popping up if you've not
correctly engineered and integrated that vehicle to co at it
for the lack of that masking noise that the engine
naturally provides. We went into the engineering of this truck
understanding that, and we integrated the entire system to work
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together for an electric propulsion system.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
It's a great point because I've driven so many evs
where because there's no engine noise. This is exactly what
you said, but I'll give you my version. I can
hear all the rattles and squeaks right if the headliner
isn't aligned perfectly, or the glove box is shaking. You know,
I always put baby seats in the back because I
have little kids. Everything, you hear everything, and there was
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absolutely none of that in this truck. The handling I
thought defied physics. I don't know how much. I don't
know if you'll tell me how much of ways, but
I imagine it's nine thousand pounds. And I also thought
the breaking feel was perfect, which is something that's tough
to get right on an EV because you're trying to engine,
you're trying to do region right, you're trying to help
add back to the battery. So did you guys win
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to words for this vehicle? I mean, I don't read
the industry press that much, but I imagine you must have
gotten accolades for it.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Yeah, we got a lot of accolades.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
There have been, you know, a lot of publications that
have tested this vehicle. When you look at what we
put out as the max range, which is what you
were driving, which is what I drive every day, it's
four hundred and seventy eight miles, is what we publish.
But we have had so many, so many industry professionals
get in it and take it for rides and get
far in excess of that. It really depends on, you know,
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what your driving type is. Obviously, for an electric vehicle,
because of regen braking, as you said, your fuel economy
is actually better and sort of stop and go city
type traffic, which is completely contrary to an internal combustion
engine where you want to be an expressway the whole
way right, but you don't get regen braking there. So
depending on how you're driving the vehicle, what range you get.
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But you have to remember GMC is really the only
truly premium truck and suv brand out there, and you
look across every time truck and as you rebrand, it
is truly truly premium.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
And so that has to flow into everything we do, Matt.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
That's got to flow into the vehicle dynamics, it's got
to flow into the break and throttle field. It's got
to flow into the interior and how we do fit
and finish and how we craft it. Because when we
say it's premium, our customers are going to expect that
in every facet of the vehicle, and it's up just
to deliver that.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
I did think and I hope I don't get in
trouble for saying this, but I thought it was better
than you in your internal rivals, like the Escalade I
think is the escalade IQ is. I love the shape,
I love the look, the design. It doesn't handle as
well as the Sierra, and at least in my experience
I've driven it twice. I don't know why that is.
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Is it harder to build a three to row version?
Is there something inherently easier about building a pickup truck?
Is it separated like the old pickup trucks? Like could
you take off the bed and replace it with something else?
Or is it all one piece?
Speaker 5 (33:01):
Well, I mean it's just a different dynamic, right, You've
got the bed and you've got the box that are
going to be flexing as opposed to know, an suv
with three rows that's going to be all one body structure.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
So there's certainly a different way that you're going to
tune it.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
You've got your cab mounts and your box mounts that
are going to be done a little bit differently when
you've got the split.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
It's just about really how you tune it. I'm GMC biased.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
I learned how to drive it an eighty two GMC
suburban back in the day that was when GMC had
the suburban name plate as well as Chevy. So I've
been a GMC fan as long as I can remember.
It's so somebody asks me, I'm going to say I
love the GMCC or above all else. It's nice to
hear you say that as well as an independent third party.
I'm I'm partial to.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
It, do you? I mean, let's talk about that, because
I don't want to pigeonhole you as a truck person.
But you started driving trucks when you were a kid,
and does your family, do your friends are they are they? Like?
I knew you would do something like this because you
were into it back then, and now you're actually designing them.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
Yeah, my dad would have said that. He would he
would not be surprised at all. We lost him a
few years ago, but if you were alive today, he
would say he would not be surprised at all. I've
always loved trucks when I first came to General Motors,
and I got to start working on trucks pretty early
on in my career, probably about three years in I
started working on trucks and I've.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Really never looked back.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
And that's the thing with the truck organization here, when
they find you and they love you, they kind of
tend to hold on to you, which has been great
for me because I've loved it. And my aspiration early
in my career was to be chief engineer for full
size truck and I reached that goal when I became
the chief engineer for the heavy duty truck. And that
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was back in gosh, twenty sixteen, and I thought, well, shoot,
now what, I still have a long way to go.
And then I moved on from that to executive chief
engineer of mid sized truck and then executive chief engine
and you're a full sized truck. And then I'm kind
of looking around saying, gosh, I'm like forty four and
forty five and I've hit the pinnacle. I better figure
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out a new pinnacle. And that's what then took me
to Europe to run General Motors Europe for a couple
of years and brought me over here to run.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Buwick and GMC.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
But but leading the truck organization was absolutely a highlight
of my career because you know, I am a truck person.
I've driven trucks my entire life and I will continue to.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
It's just what I love.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
I wanted to ask what it's like to grow up
in Michigan because I love to go to Detroit. As
a car person, I feel at home there, you know,
being a journalist in New York City, like nobody I
ever talked to cares about cars here. And I grew
up in Ohio, which is we're better at football, but
not quite as we have that debate, not quite as
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Steveton automotive tradition. So what's it like to grow around?
Grow up around like everybody's a car person where you live? Right?
I mean I imagine from elementary school through you two
of them, you do the engineering and master's program at GM,
like everybody you talk to cares.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Yeah, it is a unique space. I mean obviously for
me growing up, it didn't feel unique. It was just
what I knew.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
And if you're somebody who's mechanically inclined, and I grew up,
I just wanted to know how everything worked. I would
just I would tear things apart just to try to
put them back together. Or something at home broke, my
dad would tell my mom, don't fix it, Let's see
what Jaqueline can do with it. That's just something that
I've always loved and so automotive was so natural for me,
and I was around people with a passion for automotive.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
You know.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
I wasn't the type.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
Personally that was wrenching on cars in the driveway, probably
because my dad wasn't a wrencher, and so we just
sort of didn't do that. I just had an interest
for the industry and I fell in love with it
even more in college, and then when I came to
General Motors that really solidified it. But I was around
people all the time that had this passion for automotive
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as well. Now, as I work in this industry and
I start getting around, I realize it's just not that
way everywhere else in the country, And I think it's
just such a unique culture we have here in Detroit.
And I'm super proud to be from Detroit. I'm super
proud to still be living in the suburb of Detroit.
Detroit has really reinvented itself over these last several decades.
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It's a city I'd be incredibly proud to take anyone
to when they come to visit. It's just it's a
really great automotive town.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Is there a car or a truck you mentioned the
eighty two suburban that evokes in you a real feeling
of not only nostalgia but desire, like do you do
you want to get one of those and restore it
and put it in your garage? Or do you have
a weekend driver that you really love?
Speaker 5 (37:45):
You know, I would love to get I was actually
going back not too long ago, a few years ago
with my sisters. We were trying to find a picture
of that old suburban. We all learned how to drive
on it, and we're all trying to find a picture
of it, and we couldn't. I love to get one,
and just because it does bring back just such great memories.
I'm one of four daughters and we all trick our
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turns learning how to drive on that beast. And it
was I tell you, what, if you can park in
a high school parking lot in that, you're done.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
You're good.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
You can drive anything.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
You're good, you can drive.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
You can drive anything, which is why both of my
kids learned how to drive on full sized trucks.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Is there is there a vehicle Jacqueline that you have
engineered in your head, or something that you want to
make that that you don't like, a project that you
have a dream about accomplishing in terms of engineering, because
I imagine as an engineer you always think up cool quirky
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suspension systems or power trains or I don't know what
because I'm not an engineer, but well, I mean, we.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
Always want to push the boundaries, right, That's what engineers,
that's what we should do. We should always innovate, we
should always take it to the next level. We should
always see how far we can push it and then
see if we can go a little bit farther. When
I was the executive chief engineer of full sized truck,
the most fun I had.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Was the escalat V.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
I got to be the ECP for that, and you know,
I mean like taking the LT four, taking that taking
that CT five black wing engine and putting it into
an escalade and then everything you do to make it work,
from the suspension and the body mounts to the equal
length exhaust to give the right noise tuning. Because like
I said, I'm an MVH person, so that was super
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important to me to get that throaty growl and the
pops and gurgles exactly the way.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
We wanted it.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
That was something that I can step back and say Wow,
what a passion project. And I think full sized truck
in general is just one of those segments that people
have a ton of passion around. I see people driving
those twenty five and thirty five hundred hds with to
your point, the six to six leader diesel, and you do.
They're just smiling as they're driving these trucks and towing
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thirty five thousand pounds behind them, and so just that's
what I love about it. And okay, now where can
we push it? What's the next level of towing, capability,
of horsepower, of torque of you know, of zero to
sixty time, you know, in an escalade for crying out loud,
taking an escalade zero to sixty and four and a
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half seconds.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
I mean, come on, So that's what I get to do, Matt.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Yeah, no, I'm I have a lot of respect for
what you do. And of course the products that you
make are among my very favorite products in the automotive world.
So I love the escalade V. It's just bonkers. And
all right, Jacqueline, what's next? What's next for you? Right now?
Speaker 5 (40:39):
I'm having a lot of fun running Buick and GMC.
Both brands are doing great. Buick is growing like crazy,
fastest growing mainstream brand right now. Super proud of what
that brand has done and the products in its portfolio.
Having a ton of fun with GMC because trucks is
really my passion and so seeing what we're doing there
is really exciting. So my intention is to keep doing
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what I'm doing and keep taking these brands to new heights.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Well, I really appreciate you spending some time with us.
I'm so glad I met you, and I'm so glad
you could join us on Hot Pursuit.
Speaker 5 (41:11):
I enjoyed it very much, Matt, Thank you so much
for having me.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Thank you. All Right, that was my interview with Jacquelin McQuaid.
She's awesome and I'm thinking there's a high likelihood she
is at least in the running for the next chief
executive officer at General Motors. So all right, you know what,
I hate it when YouTubers say like and subscribe, especially
they'll stop at the beginning of the video and say, hey,
(41:35):
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Matt Matt. Yeah. Actually, I do not have any shame
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I guess I'm not as I could be putting up
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r S six that I got pulled over in this morning,
Post that.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
One, and like, honestly post something of a roads like
an America Roadster. So okay to get people, I'll do hunt.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
I'll do that. I by the way, when I first
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fifteen years ago, I did it the behest of our
social media director here at Bloomberg. She has since left
the company, but she said, just pick any handle. So
I picked Matt Miller nineteen seventy three, and she was like, ew,
you're so old. People are going to know how old
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you are. And I wasn't even that old then.
Speaker 4 (43:18):
Yeah, yeah, I do. I certainly would never.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
My own husband asked me how old I was going
to be on my next birthday, and I declined to
tell him.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
I thought it's a rude question.
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'm Hannah Elliott and I'm Matt Miller. This is Hot
Pursuit coming up on today's podcast, get Ready to hear
Me gush about trucks. I had a chance to sit
down with the global VP of GMC and Buick, Jacqueline McQuaid,
a fascinating interview about growing up in Detroit, about learning
(00:32):
to drive with a suburban, about basically taking over general
knows me short of being CEO and president, She's done
pretty much everything. And I got to drive the new
GMC Sierra ev at four Max range, which is gigantic
and super luxurious. But first, are you working on something
(00:55):
in particular?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Hannah?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Currently this week, I had a great chance to sit
down with Adrian von HOYDNK, who's the head of design
for BMW, and talk about their new IX three. It's
part of their Noya Classic maybe you can say that
better at German uh okay good their new series of
electric vehicles. And he was really interesting. And then you know,
(01:18):
tonight Bentley is going to be unveiling a very exciting
car that I think you're gonna love. Matt, So I've
been talking a lot with Bentley this week in anticipation
of this debut, which I think we can talk about
because by the time this Ronsie embargo will have lifted.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah, I mean so. And also we will have talked
to Frank Stefan Balliser because you booked the CEO of
Bentlee and obviously famous for having worked at Portia where
he designed the nine eighteen. By the way, I just
googled the nine eighteen to look at it for a
little while and it's still so gorgeous.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
It's right.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I every time I see those guys, I feel like
this pest. But I'm like, when are we going to
see something like the nine to eighteen again? Likering bring
us something like that?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Not at Bentley, right, I mean no.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
No, but let's not forget. And obviously, as you know,
Frank comes straight from Porsche Motorsport to us, and he's
already leaving his fingerprints on Bentley and with this new vehicle.
And we can go into it now if we want.
This is Bentley's new supersports. You'll be very happy to hear.
(02:32):
It's rear wheel drive V eight non hybrid, pure internal
combustion engine, over six hundred and fifty horse power, it's
a real screamer. I think I haven't driven it, but
it's going to be. I think we want it to be.
And I think what you're what you're seeing is Frank
sort of injecting Bentley with some of that Porsche Motorsport stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I mean, first of all, thank you for booking him
on my television show, and we'll do that interview. So
by the time this comes out, we will have been
on internationally broadcast live television together, no big deal and
a deep tease. Next week we're gonna have him on
the podcast. So that's cool. But just to go into
what they're showing you tonight, I'm excited about it because supersport,
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because V eight, because for a real world drive, for
all the reasons you mentioned. But this isn't I mean,
he just signed up, so it's not like this is
the Frank Stefan Wallaser car yet. No, so he hasn't
had time. It takes a few years at least to
put a car from pen and paper to you know,
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iron and resin, so it's gonna be a while.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Completely this is we should actually Frank time flies. Frank
started in twenty twenty four e Bentley, so he's been.
He's been I think it was July July or August
twenty twenty four, so Frank's been with Bentley. But you're right,
this is a really big ship to turn, as you know,
the life cycles of cars are multiple years long, and
(04:10):
so yeah, it's going to take time. I think he's
you know, uh, taking the long view as our German
friends typically do, which is good and you know, I
can't wait to hear more from him. We should say
we are recording this podcast on Thursday afternoon. The event,
the reveal event is tonight Thursday night, and then we're
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going to talk to Frank tomorrow on TV on Friday,
and then the podcast will go live after that. So
we've got to we've got to get our chronology straight
for everything we're talking about here.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
But yeah, I think.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
It's this is like the first little taste of what
This is an indication of where Bentley wants to be going.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
I think that's the best way to read it.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
This is an intent from them to basically say, you know,
they're still going to do VDA, They're still going to
do an internal combustion, so going to make cars that
you're going to want to drive. The rear wheel drive alone,
I think is exciting. It's the first time we've seen
on a supersports. All of those are indicators about where
the company intends to go.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
By the way, I hope, well, I mean, he's the
industry genius, and I'm just a guy who looks at
cars on the Internet and stuff. But I hope apropos
your story for pursuits a couple of weeks ago that
they simplify things a little bit or they continue to
because everything that I drive, but certainly also the Bentley's
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that they're coming out with now, they're so complicated, right,
and so much works through the screen, the infotainment system,
and they have all these turbochargers and all wheel drive
systems and automatic transmissions, and it's just like, I really
have this urge to go back to the basics. That's
why I'm fretting over this air cooled nine to eleven
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search that I've talk about it as I.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Am now taking up for you, Matt, because I'm hearing
about your search from my people in my circle who
are trying to get to you and tell you what
they think through me, which is a whole other thing.
But just to your point, about the technology. You know,
Bentley's not alone in this. And going back to the
time I spent with BMW and Adrian on Hoydank this
(06:24):
week in la at their design studio in Santa Monica,
Adrian was making the same point, and Bentley has this
thing that they call shy tech, which is their phrase
for technology that doesn't get in the way of living
and enjoying. And they are supremely aware that not all
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new tech is necessary or necessarily welcomed by consumers. So
it is interesting to see with this I x three
that they debuted, it is scaled back from just greens
everywhere and nothing tangible. They do have like tactile points
(07:05):
in the car because they're realizing what you say, which
is there needs to be some sort of communication between
the car and the human that does not involve just
a screen basically. So it's it's fascinating to think about.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, I mean, it's just I think it's gone overboard
and a lot of manufacturers are trying to turn it around.
And to your point, it's a huge tanker, right, you
can't turn it around the same way you would a
sunfish like I was as a case in point, I
was driving a range Rover Sport last week, the SV,
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which is an amazing power plant I think, you know,
in collaboration with the BMW now, but and an incredibly
luxurious vehicle. The design is not necessarily to my taste.
I like the full blooded range Rover rather than the Sport.
But this thing is you know, expensive, and it's got
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a lot of real leather and wood in it and
carbon carbon fiber wheels on this SB and it's fast
and it handles well. The biggest problem I had was
the enfotainment system. Like everything including the HVAC was through
the screen. You couldn't you couldn't change any of that stuff.
And the enfotainment system is the last thing I want
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to worry about. It's the last thing I want to
care about. I would rather buy a car that doesn't
have one, you know, And that's you know, what I'm
working on doing right now. But I'm sure that the
people at land Rover, just like the people at probably
at Bentley, at Porschet, Mercedes everywhere BMW, want to reverse
that trend because they realize the pendulum has swung too far.
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And of course you're gonna want to sell everyone's gonna
want a navigation system or most people will want one,
So you're gonna have to have a screen, but you
want to have a volume knob, you want to have
HVAC controls, you want to be able to quickly push
a button for something like I don't know a camera system.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
So yeah, and here's here's some one of the challenges
and part of the problem I think why they get
tripped up. Buyers in China are very happy to have
their cars. Basically like computers. They do not have the
same feelings necessarily in general, that we have about wanting
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some sort of tactile engagement. And for a long time,
automakers thought China was the future for their company, so
they created they started creating cars that were geared toward
consumers who appreciated their car like they might appreciate a
video game console with it, but like interfacing with the
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video game. Now that China has proven to be a
very very tough nut to crack and to compete with,
especially for automakers like BMW and Mercedes and Portia, now
they're kind of like reh having to rethink all of
that because buyers are different in China, and if China's
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not going to be this cash cow that they thought
it was now what you know, So I still there's
a lot of a lot of indecision and uncertainty about
how to pivot from here their experience.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
It's interesting that you mentioned that the video game thing,
because in my deep dive on all things nine to eleven,
I've read a lot about engineers designing the electronic assist
steering system for the nine to nine one generation, which
is when they went away from the hydraulic assist rack
and pinion, and the biggest concern was that it would
(10:48):
feel like a video game. So they wanted to get
it right in terms of still having that real connection
with the road feeling, and I think they did a
pretty good job of that. We're going to take a
quick break. We come back. We'll talk about my search
for a new nine to eleven, although I obviously want
probably a very old one, and we'll talk about the
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person behind some of my all time favorite trucks, my
one on one with GMC Global VP Jacquelin McQuaid. That's
all coming up right after this. I'm Matt Miller along
with Hannah Elliott. You're listening to Hot Pursuit. So when
I was growing up Audi and Porsche for the same dealership,
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just to make a little segue here. And you know,
as I said, my dad had an Audi, but we
would go to dealership and I would lust over these Porschas,
and I guess they must have been Carrera three point
two's that generation, you know, early eighties kind of thing.
And so I don't know what spurred it, but I
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got really interested as we talked about last week in
this America Roadster, which is a nine to sixty four
on bring a trailer last week, and then it went
for what I felt like was a too cheap of
a price. And then that got me thinking, like why
don't I have an air cooled nine to eleven? Like
why have I never experienced this thing? And I've always
kind of made fun of these leftka cooled people, like
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this this cult right around air cooled.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
And the left of Coult.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
It's really a cult, right because you watched the YouTube
videos and these guys like not only did I get
a great car, but I landed a great group of friends,
and like, I've met so many people through this car.
That's the That's not what I want to do with
a car, you know, I want to drive it, but
I want to hear it, and I want to smell it,
and I want to feel it, and I want to
be a little bit scared. And I don't know why
I've never really checked them out, Like when I did
(12:38):
buy a nine to eleven ten years ago, but I
immediately went for the newest model for the nine to
nine to one, which I absolutely loved and I never
had any mechanical problems. It was so reliable, so fast,
handled so well. But I want something that's a little
maybe a little bit less reliable, not quite as fast,
and it doesn't it's a little more dangerous.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
That sounds funny me.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I mean, first of all, I have to say that
the love of as you know, air cooled Porsche's existed
far before lefticle. The difference is that the guys driving
in were like the our group guys out in California,
who were these grizzled old dudes who were like die
hard not cool old guys. And those guys were actually cool.
(13:25):
They were so uncool they were not they were cool.
I mean, all of that existed before all of the
hipsters came. And you know, so like I like the
idea of tapping into that, like the pre leftical like
die hard love of it, which was cool, and those
guys didn't care about it. They weren't creating content with
their cars. They they they didn't you know, they didn't
(13:47):
even have cell phones. They were just out driving. Yeah no,
like that's actually like legit and og and very cool.
So like I totally agree with that. I have to
say I did get an earful from our our bosom buddy,
Steve Serio, who had to tell me that the car
that got away your moby Dick, he read through it
(14:09):
and it had been in an accident and that may
have led to the reduced price.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, well you know that I.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Have particular vehicle might not have been as great as
you thought.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
That's true, and I hope I can find one for
less money, because I don't want to necessarily pay that much.
I will say in terms of accident cars, because I'm
now I'm looking at literally every car that's for sale,
literally every Pea car. My nine to eleven that I
had for almost ten years. I also had got into
an accident. A truck ran into my left ear quarter
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panel when I was parked, and it resulted only in
you know, a big old dent which I immediately had
repaired with all original parts from Stuttgart and at the
Porsche dealer, so which was an expensive endeavor. But by
the time I went to sell it, it obviously had
the accident on It's on the car facts or whatever
you call it, and that made me think, like, I'm
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not going to avoid all cars of it into an
accident because a lot of cars have been in accidents
and that doesn't mean there's frame damage or you.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Know, yeah, I mean I guess, yeah, if if it's
not I was going to say, if it's not something
that you're hoping that is an investment, oh, I don't care.
But then but yeah, because every racing car has been
in multiple incidents and you know, it's like whatever, I'm
(15:36):
kind of with you on that. And I should also
say both Steve and then one of our readers or listeners.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Don Don is an amazing resource. He's already proven an
amazing resource.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah, yeah, well he of course, now they're sending I
know you saw it additional America roadsters that I think
we all are rooting for you, Like now I'm having
feel these things on behalf of you.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Well, thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
They're so much good.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
There's so much goodwill for you finding one.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Well, you know what the thing is that I've realized
probably one of the reasons that people get so into
this and so obsessed is because there's so much there.
And of course part of the joy of U of
cars is the chase. Right, So now I'm like, maybe
these are expensive, these nine to six fours. Maybe I
(16:27):
want an sc which are maybe a little more you know, affordable,
Or maybe I want a Carrera three point two because
it has that classic look that I fell in love with.
Or maybe I even want a nine to nine three
because it's the end of the line, although I don't
like the way the head lamps slide by. And then
I start thinking about, oh, the early ones have torsion suspension,
then they got coil over shocks, and the early ones
(16:49):
have totally direct steering. Later you get a hydraulic assist,
and there's so many variables that there's like a million
things to learn and sink your teeth into. This is
all just to say, I kind of wanted to pitch
our list listeners on if we did a whole show
that was just a buyer's guide, a nine to eleven
buyer's guide with someone who knows a lot of stuff,
like Steve Cirio, or maybe Magnus would join us, or
(17:11):
maybe this guy Nathan Mertz, Like I wonder if people
would care, would want to listen to that.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I'm sure they would, And I think we should do
it with you know whatever expert. Maybe we get a multiple,
maybe we have multiple, maybe we I don't know how
we do it, but sounds great to me. I think
you're right, right and tell us everybody like hot Pursuit
at Bloomberg dot net.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
I think you're right and we should do it.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah, Hot Pursuit at Bloomberg dot net. Should I buy
a car with a nine to fifteen transmission? Or do
I have to have the G fifty? Okay, that's enough
of that. We are going to talk about other automakers
because I did get to sit down with Jacqueline McQuaid
and I did get to talk with her about she
is such a truck person, but also like she's an engineer,
(17:59):
she's worked in and paint. She oh, she was in
charge of making the Cadillac Escalade V.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
So she made probably, I mean, my favorite SUV. I
don't know if it's I haven't thought about it long
enough to say, of all time, but that is a
behemoth with a super charged American V eight like I
love it. And she's run Europe, you know, so she's
run entire continental businesses for them, and now she's back
(18:29):
home at GMC. We'll check out my interview right after
this Welcome back to Bloomberg Hot Pursuit. I had a
chance to sit down with Jacqueline McQuaid, who is a
lifelong Michigander. She even has two degrees from the University
of Michigan, which you know that, Hannah. I am an
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Ohio State fan, so it's kind of hard so.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
To talk to her.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
It's so weird because I love to go to Detroit.
I love to talk to people in the car industry,
in the American car industry, and they inevitably went to
U of M or they're Spartys, and I prefer the latter,
but as is someone from Ohio. You know, there's an
old story of the OSU football team driving back from
ann Arbor to Columbus after a game and they ran
(19:21):
out of gas and Woody the coach made them get
out and push because they were close enough to the
border where they could buy Ohio Gas rather than Michigan Gas.
I'm sure it's not true.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
But I hope it is true.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
I love that anyway. Jacqueline is awesome, and to be fair,
Michigan has won against Ohio State for the last four
years in a row, but that's coming to an end
this year. She is an engineer. She has worked in purchasing,
she has worked in product. I mentioned that she ran
the Cadillac Escalade V product and she ran the continent
(19:55):
of Europe. Now she is the global VP of GMC
and Buick. Let's listen into my interview with Jacquelin McQuaid. Jacqueline,
first of all, thank you so much for joining us.
It's a real pleasure to have you. You have an
incredible resume, but it's all at one company. It's all
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at General Motors pretty much, right, because you started there
straight out of University of Michigan and have done everything
from interning at paint shop as far as I know,
to running a continent. So tell us about your journey,
like how you got started there to begin with.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Yeah, it's literally been all at General Motors. You're absolutely right.
I started before I graduated from your University of Michigan.
I started as an intern, so your data is accurate.
I was an intern in paint engineering back when I
was GOSH. Summer after sophomore year of college, I interned
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with GM so I did one summer in paint engineering,
which was actually really fascinating. They tend to hire more
chemical engineers and I was mechanical. But when you think
about what the design studio does to come up with
these really unique colors, and our design studio, they're watching
New York Fashion Week, They're following European fashion. They're really
projecting fashion into automobiles. When you think about interior and
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exterior design, and exterior color is something that just gives
an impression of a vehicle when you first see it
on a lot or driving down the road. So there's
a lot of design work that goes into that. Paint
engineering then gets the task of actually creating that color
and creating it in a way that's color fast and
that can match across different mediums as you're painting from
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the vehicle body to maybe the fender, etc.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
And it was fascinating.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
I had no idea that that even existed when I
went to u OF I'm getting a mechanical engineering degree
with an emphasis and automotive. So it ended up not
being maybe where I wanted to take my career, but
it was really an interesting in place to start with
general motors.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I mean, I don't want to spend too much time
on paint because you have gone from engineering to product
purchasing to as I said, you know, continental leadership, but
I find it fascinating as well, and just having spent
time on a factory floor, Like the amount of space
that paint takes up, you know, compared to everything else,
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is pretty substantial, and it's a pretty important part of
buying a car. When you see a vehicle that speaks
to you a lot of times it's the color and
the quality of the paint I think as someone who
cares a lot about cars, is important. And you can
also see changes through different periods of time, like sometimes
for some reason, the public only wants grays and black
(22:46):
and white, and sometimes like GM now is making crazy
purples and oranges. And even on the conservative I would say,
you know, trucks are more conservative than say a corvette, right,
But even on the trucks that you make, you have
these greens and these smoky blues, how have you noticed
the demand changing over time for what people want in
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terms of paint colors.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Well, yeah, I mean, at the end of the day,
a vehicle is a very emotional purchase. You got people
that love their vehicles. You've got people that name their vehicles.
My daughter would hug her vehicles, she just loved it.
And so these are emotional purchases. And it really starts
with how does a vehicle make you feel when you
first see it?
Speaker 3 (23:29):
And the paint color has a lot to do with that.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
Obviously the styling next to your styling does as well.
We could talk a lot about the new Buig styling
with the Wildcat concept vehicle that is now flowing through
to the entire lineup. But it is an emotional purchase.
It should make you feel something. If it doesn't, you
pick the wrong vehicle. And it starts with the paint.
It really does. And now you've got these Mate paint
colors that are all the rage, and you go out
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a factory zero and you look at what we're doing
in the hummer and we're painting these Mate paints. Actually,
funny enough, when I first started summer of nineteen ninety
eight as an intern in paint engineering. I was at
Detroit hand Tranmic Assembly, which is now Factory zero, where
I spent a lot of time now as a VP
of GMC. So my careers kind of come full circle
back to that same manufacturing plant, albeit completely read on
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now that it's building electric vehicles, but it really the
vehicle should make you feel something emotionally when you see it,
and if it doesn't, you should keep looking.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
So all right, paint, I think is really cool, and
you obviously do a fantastic job of it there. But
what did you move to next? Did you go to
purchasing next? Did you go to product?
Speaker 1 (24:39):
No?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Purchasing? Right?
Speaker 5 (24:40):
Well, so I started when I hired in full time,
I hired it into engineering, and I spent the first
thirteen years and a lot of different engineering fields. So
my engineering degree both masters and bachelor's as a mechanical
So I started in a space called roadload data acquisition.
So effectively, you are instrumenting the vehicle with all different transducers,
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load cells, LVDTs, accelerometers, et cetera, and you're taking the
vehicle out on test roads and you're seeing how is
the vehicle responding when it's going over different road surfaces,
when it's going through a pothole, when it's going over
Belgian blocks, or it's doing you know, extreme turning maneuvers.
How is it flexing? Where are the stress points in
the frame? How are you engineering the right failure mode
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so that it fails safely? And so I spent a
couple of years doing that, And I would say while
getting an engineering degree from Michigan was great, it was
really GM that taught me how to engineer a vehicle.
Those first couple of years working in roadload data acquisition
gave me such in depth understanding of vehicle dynamics and
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how to engineer a vehicle for the type of vehicle
feel and ride dynamics that General Motors wants. And we
have a va I would say, unique way of integrating
our vehicles. And when you're driving a GM vehicle, you
know that you are in one. And whether that's as
Chevy feels like a Chevy, Buick feels like a Buick,
a Cadillac feels like a Cadillac. We definitely have a
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dynamic approach to our vehicles. And so I spent time there.
I went from there to vehicle dynamics, to right and
handling I spent time and noise and vibration. I released
components for the vehicle exhaust systems on full sized trucks.
I worked in Tyron wheel Systems. I was an engineering
group manager and breaks. So all of my engineering background
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was very chassis based and very vehicle dynamics based, and
I did that for about thirteen years, and then I
went over to purchasing.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
So all right, well, this is a I want to
talk about the rest of your career, but this is
a perfect time to talk about because of that experience
my week in the Sierra EV I had the max
range eighty four last week, and I was absolutely blown
away by the effortless feel of the throttle because it's
obviously a very heavy vehicle. I don't know how much
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it weighs, but maybe nine thousand pounds, right, And previously,
my favorite truck, as I told you, we had lunch
a couple of weeks ago here in New York, and
I told you my favorite vehicle was the Chevy Silverado,
the H the twenty five D, the HD ZR two
that had the six point six Leader Diesel V eight,
Because that power train just feels like it motivates any
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kind of weight in a Rolls Royce like luxurious way,
and this I thought was even better. I don't know,
because of the instant torque, because of the massive power.
It was just more than adequate. And I never cared
really about the numbers. I don't even know what the
horsepower and torque is, but I'm sure they're mind blowing.
The other thing I noticed about that truck beyond the
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luxury stuff that you guys have put inside, and honestly,
I was thinking of I was thinking of comparisons I
always do to Rolls Royce because that was the first,
like amazing luxury ride I ever had. And even the
stitching the fabric that you guys do in this truck
is like su super elite in a way, you know,
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like it's almost an art, a work of art. And
I'm sure it's not handmade, but it looks like it
could be. And then and then I noticed the NVH
is flawless. And I've driven a lot of other I've
driven other companies, let's say big EV trucks, and the
NVH is not flawless. So you guys have done something
that I don't think anyone else has achieved. And I
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haven't even gotten to the range yet, right, because it's
over four hundred miles. I have to say, you must
be proud of that vehicle.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Yeah, super proud of that vehicle. So I'm glad to
hear you were in the eight four. That's actually my
daily driver. So I'm in a cer EV eight four,
So I understand exactly what you're saying and completely agree.
It really comes down to the initial engineering of the vehicle.
When we set out to do an electric truck, we said, okay,
we're going to do it right, and we're going to
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do purpose built electric truck from the ground up. And
when you do that, you can engineer in the dynamics
and the NVA to the vehicle from the beginning. So
you get the batteries down low, you create a really
low center of gravity. The way that truck handles for
a vehicle that large, the way it handles, the.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Vehicle dynamics of it.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
Yeah, it's incredible because we've really created the structure of
the vehicle using the batteries. They weren't an afterthought, They
actually create the vehicle structure, and so you've got great
structure to it.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
As a result of that. This truck zero to sixty
and like four point five seconds.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
It's crazy moving that much masks, but it was engineered
to do that. And then from an MVH perspective, when
you think about an electric vehicle, and I spent a
lot of years doing NVH at GM. I did it
for over four years here, all on full sized truck.
You think that when you do an electric vehicle, you're
doing something great because you're taking all that engine noise out.
The reality is, engine noise masks a lot of other noises,
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and when you take that engine noise out, you have
the risk of other noises popping up if you've not
correctly engineered and integrated that vehicle to co at it
for the lack of that masking noise that the engine
naturally provides. We went into the engineering of this truck
understanding that, and we integrated the entire system to work
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together for an electric propulsion system.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
It's a great point because I've driven so many evs
where because there's no engine noise. This is exactly what
you said, but I'll give you my version. I can
hear all the rattles and squeaks right if the headliner
isn't aligned perfectly, or the glove box is shaking. You know,
I always put baby seats in the back because I
have little kids. Everything, you hear everything, and there was
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absolutely none of that in this truck. The handling I
thought defied physics. I don't know how much. I don't
know if you'll tell me how much of ways, but
I imagine it's nine thousand pounds. And I also thought
the breaking feel was perfect, which is something that's tough
to get right on an EV because you're trying to engine,
you're trying to do region right, you're trying to help
add back to the battery. So did you guys win
(30:59):
to words for this vehicle? I mean, I don't read
the industry press that much, but I imagine you must have
gotten accolades for it.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Yeah, we got a lot of accolades.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
There have been, you know, a lot of publications that
have tested this vehicle. When you look at what we
put out as the max range, which is what you
were driving, which is what I drive every day, it's
four hundred and seventy eight miles, is what we publish.
But we have had so many, so many industry professionals
get in it and take it for rides and get
far in excess of that. It really depends on, you know,
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what your driving type is. Obviously, for an electric vehicle,
because of regen braking, as you said, your fuel economy
is actually better and sort of stop and go city
type traffic, which is completely contrary to an internal combustion
engine where you want to be an expressway the whole
way right, but you don't get regen braking there. So
depending on how you're driving the vehicle, what range you get.
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But you have to remember GMC is really the only
truly premium truck and suv brand out there, and you
look across every time truck and as you rebrand, it
is truly truly premium.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
And so that has to flow into everything we do, Matt.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
That's got to flow into the vehicle dynamics, it's got
to flow into the break and throttle field. It's got
to flow into the interior and how we do fit
and finish and how we craft it. Because when we
say it's premium, our customers are going to expect that
in every facet of the vehicle, and it's up just
to deliver that.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
I did think and I hope I don't get in
trouble for saying this, but I thought it was better
than you in your internal rivals, like the Escalade I
think is the escalade IQ is. I love the shape,
I love the look, the design. It doesn't handle as
well as the Sierra, and at least in my experience
I've driven it twice. I don't know why that is.
(32:45):
Is it harder to build a three to row version?
Is there something inherently easier about building a pickup truck?
Is it separated like the old pickup trucks? Like could
you take off the bed and replace it with something else?
Or is it all one piece?
Speaker 5 (33:01):
Well, I mean it's just a different dynamic, right, You've
got the bed and you've got the box that are
going to be flexing as opposed to know, an suv
with three rows that's going to be all one body structure.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
So there's certainly a different way that you're going to
tune it.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
You've got your cab mounts and your box mounts that
are going to be done a little bit differently when
you've got the split.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
It's just about really how you tune it. I'm GMC biased.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
I learned how to drive it an eighty two GMC
suburban back in the day that was when GMC had
the suburban name plate as well as Chevy. So I've
been a GMC fan as long as I can remember.
It's so somebody asks me, I'm going to say I
love the GMCC or above all else. It's nice to
hear you say that as well as an independent third party.
I'm I'm partial to.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
It, do you? I mean, let's talk about that, because
I don't want to pigeonhole you as a truck person.
But you started driving trucks when you were a kid,
and does your family, do your friends are they are they? Like?
I knew you would do something like this because you
were into it back then, and now you're actually designing them.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
Yeah, my dad would have said that. He would he
would not be surprised at all. We lost him a
few years ago, but if you were alive today, he
would say he would not be surprised at all. I've
always loved trucks when I first came to General Motors,
and I got to start working on trucks pretty early
on in my career, probably about three years in I
started working on trucks and I've.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Really never looked back.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
And that's the thing with the truck organization here, when
they find you and they love you, they kind of
tend to hold on to you, which has been great
for me because I've loved it. And my aspiration early
in my career was to be chief engineer for full
size truck and I reached that goal when I became
the chief engineer for the heavy duty truck. And that
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was back in gosh, twenty sixteen, and I thought, well, shoot,
now what, I still have a long way to go.
And then I moved on from that to executive chief
engineer of mid sized truck and then executive chief engine
and you're a full sized truck. And then I'm kind
of looking around saying, gosh, I'm like forty four and
forty five and I've hit the pinnacle. I better figure
(35:08):
out a new pinnacle. And that's what then took me
to Europe to run General Motors Europe for a couple
of years and brought me over here to run.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Buwick and GMC.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
But but leading the truck organization was absolutely a highlight
of my career because you know, I am a truck person.
I've driven trucks my entire life and I will continue to.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
It's just what I love.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
I wanted to ask what it's like to grow up
in Michigan because I love to go to Detroit. As
a car person, I feel at home there, you know,
being a journalist in New York City, like nobody I
ever talked to cares about cars here. And I grew
up in Ohio, which is we're better at football, but
not quite as we have that debate, not quite as
(35:49):
Steveton automotive tradition. So what's it like to grow around?
Grow up around like everybody's a car person where you live? Right?
I mean I imagine from elementary school through you two
of them, you do the engineering and master's program at GM,
like everybody you talk to cares.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Yeah, it is a unique space. I mean obviously for
me growing up, it didn't feel unique. It was just
what I knew.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
And if you're somebody who's mechanically inclined, and I grew up,
I just wanted to know how everything worked. I would
just I would tear things apart just to try to
put them back together. Or something at home broke, my
dad would tell my mom, don't fix it, Let's see
what Jaqueline can do with it. That's just something that
I've always loved and so automotive was so natural for me,
and I was around people with a passion for automotive.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
You know.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
I wasn't the type.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
Personally that was wrenching on cars in the driveway, probably
because my dad wasn't a wrencher, and so we just
sort of didn't do that. I just had an interest
for the industry and I fell in love with it
even more in college, and then when I came to
General Motors that really solidified it. But I was around
people all the time that had this passion for automotive
(36:57):
as well. Now, as I work in this industry and
I start getting around, I realize it's just not that
way everywhere else in the country, And I think it's
just such a unique culture we have here in Detroit.
And I'm super proud to be from Detroit. I'm super
proud to still be living in the suburb of Detroit.
Detroit has really reinvented itself over these last several decades.
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It's a city I'd be incredibly proud to take anyone
to when they come to visit. It's just it's a
really great automotive town.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Is there a car or a truck you mentioned the
eighty two suburban that evokes in you a real feeling
of not only nostalgia but desire, like do you do
you want to get one of those and restore it
and put it in your garage? Or do you have
a weekend driver that you really love?
Speaker 5 (37:45):
You know, I would love to get I was actually
going back not too long ago, a few years ago
with my sisters. We were trying to find a picture
of that old suburban. We all learned how to drive
on it, and we're all trying to find a picture
of it, and we couldn't. I love to get one,
and just because it does bring back just such great memories.
I'm one of four daughters and we all trick our
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turns learning how to drive on that beast. And it
was I tell you, what, if you can park in
a high school parking lot in that, you're done.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
You're good.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
You can drive anything.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
You're good, you can drive.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
You can drive anything, which is why both of my
kids learned how to drive on full sized trucks.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Is there is there a vehicle Jacqueline that you have
engineered in your head, or something that you want to
make that that you don't like, a project that you
have a dream about accomplishing in terms of engineering, because
I imagine as an engineer you always think up cool quirky
(38:44):
suspension systems or power trains or I don't know what
because I'm not an engineer, but well, I mean, we.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
Always want to push the boundaries, right, That's what engineers,
that's what we should do. We should always innovate, we
should always take it to the next level. We should
always see how far we can push it and then
see if we can go a little bit farther. When
I was the executive chief engineer of full sized truck,
the most fun I had.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Was the escalat V.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
I got to be the ECP for that, and you know,
I mean like taking the LT four, taking that taking
that CT five black wing engine and putting it into
an escalade and then everything you do to make it work,
from the suspension and the body mounts to the equal
length exhaust to give the right noise tuning. Because like
I said, I'm an MVH person, so that was super
(39:31):
important to me to get that throaty growl and the
pops and gurgles exactly the way.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
We wanted it.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
That was something that I can step back and say Wow,
what a passion project. And I think full sized truck
in general is just one of those segments that people
have a ton of passion around. I see people driving
those twenty five and thirty five hundred hds with to
your point, the six to six leader diesel, and you do.
They're just smiling as they're driving these trucks and towing
(39:57):
thirty five thousand pounds behind them, and so just that's
what I love about it. And okay, now where can
we push it? What's the next level of towing, capability,
of horsepower, of torque of you know, of zero to
sixty time, you know, in an escalade for crying out loud,
taking an escalade zero to sixty and four and a
(40:18):
half seconds.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
I mean, come on, So that's what I get to do, Matt.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Yeah, no, I'm I have a lot of respect for
what you do. And of course the products that you
make are among my very favorite products in the automotive world.
So I love the escalade V. It's just bonkers. And
all right, Jacqueline, what's next? What's next for you? Right now?
Speaker 5 (40:39):
I'm having a lot of fun running Buick and GMC.
Both brands are doing great. Buick is growing like crazy,
fastest growing mainstream brand right now. Super proud of what
that brand has done and the products in its portfolio.
Having a ton of fun with GMC because trucks is
really my passion and so seeing what we're doing there
is really exciting. So my intention is to keep doing
(41:00):
what I'm doing and keep taking these brands to new heights.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Well, I really appreciate you spending some time with us.
I'm so glad I met you, and I'm so glad
you could join us on Hot Pursuit.
Speaker 5 (41:11):
I enjoyed it very much, Matt, Thank you so much
for having me.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Thank you. All Right, that was my interview with Jacquelin McQuaid.
She's awesome and I'm thinking there's a high likelihood she
is at least in the running for the next chief
executive officer at General Motors. So all right, you know what,
I hate it when YouTubers say like and subscribe, especially
they'll stop at the beginning of the video and say, hey,
(41:35):
like and subscribe, and they always put the bell up
and the red button. It's so self serving, it's disgusting.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
So earnest, it's way too transparent and earnest, and you know,
asking for something.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
I don't want to be begging our listeners to write
a review of the podcast, or to give us five stars,
or to like and subscribe. I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
I would don't have to do it for you. I'll
do it for you.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
I'll say please like and subscribe to Hot Bloomberg cop Pursuit,
write comments, write us questions, write reviews. I have no
shame in this way. I will do all the dirty work.
We do love to hear from you, and do remember
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Speaker 4 (42:22):
If you listen. You can find me.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
On Instagram Hannah Elliott XO. You can find Matt Miller
on Instagram as well.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Matt Matt. Yeah. Actually, I do not have any shame
about asking people to follow me on Instagram, although I
I guess I'm not as I could be putting up
more I'll put I'm gonna post a picture of the
r S six that I got pulled over in this morning,
Post that.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
One, and like, honestly post something of a roads like
an America Roadster. So okay to get people, I'll do hunt.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
I'll do that. I by the way, when I first
signed up for Instagram, this is like, I don't know,
fifteen years ago, I did it the behest of our
social media director here at Bloomberg. She has since left
the company, but she said, just pick any handle. So
I picked Matt Miller nineteen seventy three, and she was like, ew,
you're so old. People are going to know how old
(43:13):
you are. And I wasn't even that old then.
Speaker 4 (43:18):
Yeah, yeah, I do. I certainly would never.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
My own husband asked me how old I was going
to be on my next birthday, and I declined to
tell him.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
I thought it's a rude question.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
That is rude. All right. That does it for this
episode of Bloomberg Hot Pursuit. By the way, we say
the entire name because you have to search Bloomberg Hot
Pursuit to really find us. I'm Matt Miller.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
And I'm Hannah Elliott.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Will be in your podcast feed again next week
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