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July 30, 2025 38 mins

This week we have an oldie but a goodie. Long-time pals, Eric and Mac talk about bombing as a musician. Mac discusses his most epic fail of all time which involves being in a gargoyle stance on an amp. Plus, they reminisce about their time at Coachella 2015 and how it has evolved over the years. A word of caution to this episode: don't drink too many gin martinis.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Bombing with Eric Andrey, the podcast where I
talk with friends, comedians, musicians, and other creative people about
their worst moments on stage and getting shot on by
a live audience. And we have our first musician on
the show. I talked to my good pal Mac DeMarco.
Crazy talented. He's toured all over the world and shared
his music amongst endless fans, like passing out pieces and

(00:20):
freaking out the neighborhood. Let's time in this conversation about
his life on the road and what wild shit he's
seen on stage.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Let's do it. Bombing with Eric andre.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
So what's the worst you've ever bombed? I have a
list with are there's some you know. I was thinking
about it.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
The three questions I asked every guest what's the worst
you ever bombed on stage?

Speaker 3 (00:44):
What's the worst bomb you've ever seen?

Speaker 4 (00:47):
Like I once saw cap Power live and she ripped
their piano and a half or whatever it is. I
just made that story up. So what's the worst you've
ever bombed? What's the worst bomb you've ever seen? And
what is the most wasted you've ever been on stage?
You know? I had one guest on whose answer to
that last question was on stage with Mac DeMarco, was

(01:09):
really yeah, DJ DJ Doug Pound, Oh yeah, that's the
most waste you've been on stage. You had like the
little beer section or something. You'd have people it's called
the bestro table, sit people on stage and get them wasted.
He doesn't drink that much, he said. He got hammered
out of his mind, and then out of nowhere. You
were like, Doug, why don't you get on the drums
and play this next? And he was like, he's not

(01:34):
a drummer. He rarely drinks. And he was like annihilated
in front of a fucking arena of billions of fans.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Just yeah, fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
You're years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
But you were like you were, you're happy as a clam.
That's I mean, you know, it's like I don't. It's
funny because yeah, probably my worst bomb in the drunks
I've ever been. Those might be the same story. You
will tell us it too. There's like so many times
I was thinking about it too, because it's like, you know,
I think about what it means to bomb in comedy
versus music, and it's like I feel like there's a

(02:05):
difference where, you know, like in music I feel like
there's a soft bomb like if you play a song
that the crowd doesn't really know or they don't really care,
you play it and they're like okay, right, and it's
like that's kind of bombing. But then there's like the
kind of you know, then there's like some of these
stories that I'll tell you here where it's like savagely
something savage happens and everyone's.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
Kind of like what it's like, yeah, yeah, like off
like when Prince Prince used to open up for the
Rolling Stones and people would throw bottles.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Yeah, that would be like got off that stage. And
then with you know, I don't know, comedy, it's like
you such it's like such a closer connection, or it's
like a more intimate connection, I think, or like I
don't know, person, I don't know. It depends, but let's see.
I have a little list here. I was thinking the Uh,
there was one instance we played at we were doing
I think three nights at the Teargramd Ballroom just downtown

(02:54):
in LA and uh, the first night, I don't really
know why it happened. I don't know what happened, but
I got like really really really drunk on stage and
I was in a bit of a mood. Sometimes you
get into mood, you know, I write these songs that
mean something to me, you know, it's like sometimes you
get you get emotional, which I think, I think those

(03:15):
are the best kinds of show. Like here's the thing
too about this show is like some of my friends
will be like Jesus Christ, like what was that? And
then other other friends will be like that was the
most the best show I've ever seen you do. But
I guess essentially what happened we I think we kind
of stumbled through most of the set, and then we
got to this point where we were kind of jamming
up there, and I had taken my shirt off and

(03:39):
I was kind of crouched like a gargoyle on top
of my amp, like staring out at the audience, and
I had I had made everybody sit down, and they
were all sitting down, and for a long time I
was I was turned and the bestro table was right there,
like we were talking about with Doug Pound. But I
was turned around for a while and I had the
microphone in my mouth, like the whole bulb of it,
and I was just screaming and screaming into it, and
then I turned around a one. Kids would try to

(04:00):
get up and I'd be like, it's the fuck up.
Like just at one point I put a cigarette out
on my chest. Yeah, the scar is here. If you
can see that, that little white patch, the scar is there. Yeah.
But I put this smoke out of my chest like
fully pushed in, which I had never done before. It
really hurts. I mean I didn't really feel at the time.
Next day was horrible, but drigger whiskey, yeah, Jamison used

(04:24):
to be my weapon of choice. But there was all
of that, and I remember just and it was getting
to the point where it was kind of like the
music wasn't even sounding like music anymore. People had been
sitting on the ground for a long time. It was
just confusing. And then my mom and my mom wasn't there,
and I'll get to that. But there was one girl
in the middle of the crowd and she I remember,
she stood up and everyone also is on the ground.

(04:46):
It's probably you know, like six hundred person venue or
something like, you know, she stood up and she was
weeping and she just went, what the fuck are you doing? Bag?

Speaker 2 (04:59):
And then.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yeah, deeply, deeply disturbed. She wanted she wanted some nice tunes.
You were like, it was it was so brutal and yeah,
and then the next you know, the show finished, we
went home. I remember getting a call from my mom
in the morning that I was being like, is everything
all right, sweetheart? Like it had made the rounds of

(05:22):
the internet, like Mac played a real raw one last night.
You know, it's just okay, No people are concerned for you. Yeah, exactly.
But then the show we did the next night there
was great, so you know, it was redeemed, I guess.
But I remember pulling up to the venue that like
the next day, because it's a residency, it's not even
like we did this insane thing and we can just
leave town. It's like nope. Coming back the next night,

(05:44):
pulling in and one of the guys that worked at
the venue is like, pretty interesting show last night, man.
I was like, yeah, yeah, pretty weird, and he just
went prett embarrassing and I went, oh, really he said
that to you?

Speaker 2 (05:55):
That's rude.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
I mean, you know whatever, that's polari say that to
the fucking artist that has a residency. What are you
gonna dona keep.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
That tears self? I don't agree with that guy. That's
fucking passive aggressive. That'n't even passive agresses. That's aggressive.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yeah, I guess so, But you know what, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
I'm sensitive to that kind of shit. One time I
was doing stand up in Alabama and I spilled ranch
salad dressing all over the stage. And the guy that
ran he wasn't even the guy that ran the club.
He was just like a random guy that worked there.
Was so angry at me and mopped between I had
like an eight o'clock show and a ten o'clock show,
and then he took out a mop bucket and he

(06:35):
stared daggers at me as he mopped up the ranch
that wasn't that much, honestly, it was like the size
of a dinner plate. Yeah, And I was like, okay,
I'm sorry, and I went and I grabbed the mop
and I.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Mopped the rest of the.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
Ranch up and like finished the mopping, and then and
then I mopped the second show. I was like, it's
gonna happen again at the second show and I mopped
the other one and he was still poudy about it.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
I was like, the fuck you, Alabama man. Yeah, I
don't know. Some people just don't have you know, I
remember there was a kid. There was a kid. Where
were we in DC?

Speaker 2 (07:07):
I think?

Speaker 3 (07:07):
And we played. He was really excited to he was
working at the show. I think he was doing merch
for us, and I used to do this thing where
I hit the microphone into my chest like this just
I don't know why, some kind of caveman shit or whatever.
But after the show I went up to go say like, oh,
thank you so much, like if you want any merch,
like you know, like that, you know, thank you so
much for working with us. But he was like disturbed

(07:27):
by me because I mean, I don't know, maybe he
has some I don't know what it is, but he
thought that they were gunning shots every time. I was
just kind of like, it's a mac Marco's show, you know,
It's like we're not you know, it's like it's not
even I don't know. Maybe maybe he had an experience
that made him feel uncomfortable in that way, but it
was kind of like, you don't he like wouldn't even
look at me after the show, and I was kind
of like, man, like, I don't know, so what is

(07:49):
this bistro table? Do you serve food there? The bistro
table was invented at this venue in Toronto years ago,
probably in like two thousand and.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Eight or nine.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
Well, in the first tour as I ever went on
this venue called the Horseshoe Tavern Legendary Tour at Toronto Venue,
and it was kind of like you know, I used
to I don't know, It's like it's like whin. I
had some friends and it was like we put a
table on the stage and I bought them some pictures
and they just sat there while we played and they
get to enjoy. Yeah, they get to enjoy the shit.
It's like the ultimate VIP experience, you know. And it

(08:21):
kind of snowballed. And we've been doing it for years
and years and years. Do you still do it? We
will do it? Yeah, do you do it every show?
It depends. I want to be on the b show table.
Next time we play in La can be at the Beast?
Can I make little drinks? Yeah? Well that's the thing.
Sometimes the promoters are really about it, and they're like,
there's this one guy in France actually does our shows
there and he gets a nice tablecloth and he gets

(08:42):
flowers and the food.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
I loved that.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yeah, the only problem is sometimes we don't you know,
I need to put like little speakers over there, because
when you're standing on the side of the stage and
there's no pa like, it just kind of sounds like
you're like, well, I'm at the show, but I can't
hear it down time. It's why So it's like kind of,
you know, the shittiest place to watch from, but it's
also tight. But but yeah, no, it's been Actually, there's
an interesting story about the be Stroow table in LA

(09:07):
that long time ago, probably like seven years ago, we
were playing a couple of nights at the Fonda and
there was a kid i'd met him at on the
street in Highland Park, I think maybe in front of
Future Music or or some music store or something, and
him and his girlfriend. I was like, oh, come to
the show, no problem, And I got them on the
guests as they came, and they came and sat at
the be Strow table and I think they're, like Doug

(09:27):
was saying, like they I don't know if they drank
that much, but there's a lot of booze around and
they is it fans. There's friends of yours at the
be Stow table. Friends usually fan I don't know. It's
kind of like whoever is or it depends, you know.
Now it's usually for friends, I would say, but you know,
it just depends. But they were sitting up there and yeah,
and the kid got hammered, and I you know, I
didn't see him till after the show. Well yeah I didn't.

(09:49):
I noticed he was kind of drunk at the table,
but there's like twenty five people at the table or something.
So anyway, I go finish the show.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Great rock show.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Really, you know, nailed it home. Everyone was loving the
rock it And I go down the stairs and I
see the kid's girlfriend and there's a stretcher and there's
the kid and they're pulling the white sheet over his head.
And I was like, oh God, like like someone died
at my show. But no, he wasn't dead. He wasn't dead.
He was just he had like alcohol poisoning or something

(10:17):
or you know, had like thrown up or something. They
were taking him out, like I don't know why the
white sheet. But it was like I was like kidding, Yeah,
it was crazy. I was coming off this l I
was like, yes, like I'm a rock star. Then you
go downstairs like oh my god, like like right at
the bottom of the stairs. It was so brutal, but
uh yeah, it's pretty, you know the beast table, sometimes good,

(10:37):
sometimes bad. That's cool. It's so perfect. So you're putting
cigarettes out on yourself.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
Yeah, and then the guy the next day said that
was embarrassing or whatever. Did you go into the next
set the second day like straight as an.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Arrow sober or were you still in that mode.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
Where you were like like iggy pop like on PCP.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
No, it was more sober. The next night was like
really wholesome somehow, like John c Riley introduced us and.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
We had well your bass player one time before he
stopped page right Pierce Pierce.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
Yeah, he used to drink. He was so drunk.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
One time at the bar he stuck all four fingers
up My ass cracked.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
When I was talking to with Gal at the bar
out of nowhere, he like crammed and he wanted to stop.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
He was like trying to cram his like hand into
my ass, and I was like wow, and I was
so drunk and it was so violating and shocking.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
I like snapped on him. I was like, get the
fuck away, and he was like and then I don't
even know if I would have been there for that,
you weren't there. You were there.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
And then like the next week he came out of
my house and I play upright bass, and it's expensive instrument,
and it's a fragile instrument.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
A cheap upright bass is ten thousand dollars and they
go up, yeah, two hundred and fifty k.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
You know, like my teachers, the bases they played, they
had to take that mortgages from the bank basis. It's
expensive instrument. I don't mind people playing it, but you
gotta be a little bit careful. He's wasted, and he's
like grabbing it, he's flopping it around and just you know,
six days ago, stuck all four fingers in my ass.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
I was like, get out of my house, like kicked
him out of my house. I kicked out. I was like,
get away from me. Well he's not drinking anymore for
the best. Yeah. Then the next time I saw he
was like, oh, yeah, I don't drink anymore. You know,
that's what happens sometimes when you when you when you
finish all of your alloted drinks and then you know,
there's all his drinks. He finished all his drinks real early. God,

(12:39):
bless them, yeah, God bless.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
But what he was drinking.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
He was like, fucking goddamn. Jerry Lee Lewis Great Balls
of Fire, A great story of Pierce. Once we were
playing in Australia. This is kind of a bomb, I guess,
but Pierce and Andy, Pierce, we used to used to
get into quite a mood on stage sometimes too. I
love this man still today. He's one of my best friends.
But that but he there was a night We're playing
in Australia and it was near the end of the

(13:03):
show and and him and my guitarist Andy were looking
at each other and Pierce was kind of he was
just not having it, like he was just not having
a good time on stage, didn't want to be there.
And Andy was kind of egging him on, like why
do you just leave then, Like why don't you go,
like come on, like what are you gonna do?

Speaker 2 (13:17):
You know?

Speaker 3 (13:18):
And Pierce was like fuck it, and he took his
bass off and left the stage.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Show.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
I didn't even notice, yeah, but like right near the
end of the show and I was like, oh, I
didn't really know what's going on. So I got there
was that some of the guys from that band King
Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard were there. So this guy Cookie.
I was like, Cooky, cook, get up here and play
the flast song. He was like, I don't know, and
I was like, it'll be fine. Dorn Pierce left and
he went to the green room and he grabbed two
beers and ahead of broccoli for some reason, just really
drunk and was like I'm out of here and tried

(13:45):
to leave out the front door, and the bouncer was like,
you can't take those beers out of here, and he said, fuck,
make me and the guy grabbed the beers out the bottom,
so it like slashed, you know, the little beer bottle
cap slashed his like tendon here open. There was blood
all over the place. I don't know what he was
doing with the broccoli. But the next day we were
supposed to go to that like wildlife conservatory place where

(14:07):
you like hold the koalas and stuff. And I remember
in the morning waking up and I hadn't seen him
for the rest of the night, but waking up in
the morning and everyone being like, so are we going
to the petting day? I was like, no, Fred, not
like not today, not not.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
After last night.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Sorry about that. Was his hand all funked up. Yeah,
he was out of these fucking cuts all over. But
he had to play, he had to play an instrument.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
I think luckily it was his right hand so that
you know, it didn't go to his brutal Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah, he was was.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
A wild child.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
You know who the most stressful guys to drink with?
Have you ever drank with the jack jackass guys?

Speaker 3 (14:47):
I've never even really met, uh met the I remember
you were over here at one point and you when
you came over, you came in and you were like
surveying the backyard because you weren't sure where and when
they would be.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
Like I was at an tiki bar with Knoxville and
I had sandals on, which I'd never have.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Yeah, and I'm not paying attention, I'm talking it. I
was Jeff Germaine. I'm talking to Germaine.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
And my left foot feels like it's having.

Speaker 5 (15:14):
Like the worst allergic reaction, like just like inflamed. I'm like, God,
what the fuck? My left foot feels like I must
be having an allergic reaction.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
I'm feel like I'm having a stroke. I look down.
My whole left foot is on fire.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
Knoxville, got like a bottle of one fifty one rum
and matches, and he's like just pouring one.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Fifty one all over my foot and throwing matches at Wow,
and you can't stop it out. You're just stomping it around.
It's like it's amazing, though, you know, that's like it's
just the way it should be. I think with those guys,
you know what I mean, Like that's it because how
old is he now? He's like in his fifties or
something that.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
The early fifties, and he's.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
Still lighting people's feet on fire.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
Like God, that's great, and you got it, like the
whole crew. It's not just the guys on the cast.
It's like you always have to have like your your
beer like this because they pee, they take out their
dicks at the arm, pee in your beer while they're
talking about my Frank tow was drinking a beer and
then like and then like Tom toothless Tom, who's not

(16:18):
even on he's a camera operator, like pee all in.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Towns beer.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
The key is you can't you can't act nervous around them,
and then when they do prank, you just act gotta
act cool because the more you stress, the more, they're
gonna be like.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Wow, that's insane. Yeah it's tough. Yeah, pee and fucking fire.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
With aer Condre, with Aerdre.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
That's what's the words bomb you ever seen? Have you
ever seen a performer tank just eat a bag of
shit on stage?

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Trying to think of like a really like maybe a
musical one.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
I saw like Ario Pink early Ario Pink shows every day.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
That was kind of what he did though at that
but you know he would just pull up with the
boombox and people would be like this isn't even good,
like fuck you, this isn't good. You know, it's just
like this sucks. So I don't know, I feel like
but that, but it's like charming in a way as well.
It's like if you saw those shows. I saw one
of them back in the day, but I remember my
friend Cody was just like, yeah I saw it the

(17:38):
other day in Montreal, like it fucking sucked, And I
was like cat Power. Cap Power would notoriously mount down
on stage all the time too. She would she would
have a really tough time. She would unravel. I mean
see that there's like a different street because I remember
seeing there was a band called Fuck What they called
a garage band from Montreal. They came over to Vanco

(18:00):
and they were playing. It was this big deal, like
when garage was kind of really having its moment, like
two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight or whatever,
and maybe two thousand and nine even and what were
they called I can't remember, but uh, but that in
that instance, it was like the drummer was just so
hammered that like they couldn't, Like the whole band is
like trying to play in the drummers just can't can't

(18:20):
get in there. Which is it just like it just
didn't sound like music at all. You know, there's instances
like that where it's kind of like technically impossible, But
then there's the ones where it is just like, uh,
meltdown status, like screaming at the audience.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
You know.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
I have a friend Sean that used to you know,
I love this guy as well. I just recorded a
record for him a couple of years ago. But back
in the day, he would have you know, Sean Nicholas Savage.
He would he would he had some shows, some difficult
shows where he would get quite.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Angry at that.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Actually on tour with us, I hope he doesn't mind
that I'm telling these stories. But there was a tour
where he he was in the van with us the
whole time, and he had he would he would use
olive oil in his hair to slick it back. He
was looking good on the story in Italian suit slipped
his hair back every day. He's kind of you know,
very uh, kind of a cloud snowmy style look sometimes,
you know, very skinny guy, like beautiful guy. But I

(19:09):
remember there was this one we played in Glasgow or
something and they didn't have normal olive oil. We're playing
it at a pizza restaurant, but they had like the
pizza olive oil spicy, so it's it had like the
peppers in it and stuff, so Sean, you got mad.
There was no hot water in the green rooms. It
was frustrated about that. And then they didn't have the
olive oil. They only had the pizza of olive oil.
So he took a cold shower and then he smelled
like a pizza. He use his pizza of olive oil

(19:30):
and he just got that night though, I think it
was like a we had just a mess of shit
happening that, you know, on that tour, and it was
that was one of the you know, I feel like
our fuse was quite short, but somehow he had a
dress when we played that night, and he was like
crawling around and just screaming, and it was like it
was just punishing, you know, just punishing the people that
came to But even that, it's like I love the punishment,

(19:54):
like the bomb to me, it's like the most entertaining
show to me. I'd like, yeah, somebody Steve.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
Oh no, I saw a super cut of Steve Lacey
taking people's iPhones out.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
Of their hands, like breaking them one. But even that,
it's like, you know, that's one of those things we're
online because I've seen those clips and I love Steve too,
he's my my good buddy. But it's like with that,
it's it's kind of like people are like like I
am so angry at you, Steve, like I paid, Like
right now, we're living in this in this world where
it's kind of like I paid for your record Outrage Economy. Yeah,

(20:26):
I I own you well that and it's like it's
like I I should have a say, you know, it's
like I am your fan and I pay to be
your fan, so but it's like, no, you let him
break your phone.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
I love it. I love him, I loves camera. Like
fuck yeah, Steve, like get it because it is you know,
it's annoying. You know, it's fucking annoying. You know. But
it's I don't know, it's like even that. Like but
that's what I'm saying is like a difference between this
the music bombing in the comedy. But I don't know,
bombing is such like it's such a very particular thing,

(20:57):
like it's I don't know. I think that the worst
is when something happens that is out of your control
and then you can't reel it back in. Yeah, you know,
like like say for like and then it just gets
all like technical equipment like yeah, audio going down or
that kind of thing. You know. It's kind of like
I think back to like when we saw radio Head

(21:17):
at Coachella, like I don't know, five years ago or
four years ago or whatever, and uh, and the P
eight has kept shutting off and the first time you're like, oh,
that's cute, the PA is shutting off, and then it
happens again and again Radiohead's PA. Well that's what I'm saying, Yeah,
the console is exploding or something and like, you know,
even you can even see it in the guys. I
mean they're professionals, they take care of business or whatever.
But you know, it happens two or three times and
you get to the point where you're kind of like like, yeah,

(21:39):
I don't know if I have any more like cute
jokes about the ship being fucked, Like shit's just kind
of fucked, you know what I mean. It's like at
that point, it's kind of like you get that. Yeah, yeah,
I feel like I had it so badly recently. What
was it? The cringe? It's almost, Yeah, the cringe is
what I This is what I search for. That's what

(22:00):
I love. Yeah, I heard Frank Ocean was having a
tough time. That was I Yeah, I was there for
that as well. Vanny buddies with Bunny Blanco. He said
the show was amazing. He goes, I don't know why
everybody's get people really loved it. I didn't stay for
the whole thing just because I was like, I don't
want to wait for the traffic. But uh, I'm out.
I'll say that some components of it, like his voice
sounded amazing. It was just like there's parts about it

(22:23):
where you know, there was a lot of waiting, there
was a lot of It was strange.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
It was really strange. I think Cochella is a tough crowd.
Don't you think Coachella is a tough coachell is?

Speaker 3 (22:33):
We did? We performed at Gouccilla together. That's right, we
performed at Coello together. Never forget the Theorem and and
the Giant. It was a twenty inch deal in the
Giant Dogs Giant. But it's don't you think that Coachella
is a tough crowd. Coachella is like not a music crowd.
It's like a butt cheeks crowd. Like it's like, you know,
everybody's there with like barely any clothes on, and like
it's more about getting the photos and ship. Yes, I

(22:55):
mean Frank Ocean is like you know those butt cheek people,
like do know about Frank? Like they love Frank. It's
so fun It's such a funny, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (23:03):
So what is that are you describing? Like the southern
California girl with a flower crown and the Big Times
just out and they didn't even know the bands.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
They're just they're fuck like that. I have a problem
with the butt cheek people.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
I have a problem with the but cheek people, the
budget people. They're low cutie pies, but they're fucking they are.
They are the stereotype of the southern California ding Dong
Oh yeah, like, And that's my problem with the Coachella crowd.
I don't think anybody's paying attention. It's very hot. Here's
my here's my issues with Coachella. I'll tell you one

(23:37):
of the best festivals ever played, fucking uh b C. Pemberton,
British col Yeah, I've heard that's a nice one.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Under been there, but.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
Pemberton all Pacific Northwest outside land festivals. San Francisco is
fucking amazing, Sasquatch, all those like, all those like rural
Washington state kind of festivals amazing. The weather's amazing, the
landscapes amazing. Indio, California, Coachello Valley is just a flat, brutal, hot,

(24:07):
brutal nightmare strawberry farm. It's just a fucking strawberry farm.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
Butt cheeks everywhere.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
And then ding Dong's from Orange County and Arizona in
La La ding Dongs gorgeous idiots coming for miles around.
I don't know, it just feels a little too cool.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
It's not even cool, Like it's like.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
But it's not cool. The irony is it's not cool,
but it feels like it feels like girls with flower
crowns that are like this rave is important, man, exactly,
and it's like it is important.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
It feels expensive in a way, you know what I mean,
But it kind of it's like it's like greasy in
a way. But here's the thing is, I talked to
my friend Jania that a couple of weeks ago, and
he was saying that he went to Cochello. He'd never
really been a music vessels. Guy's a painter. He's a
good pal of mine, and that you know, he was
saying that he he went with this stay with this
guy that you know, I think is an art dealer
or something, and they had the real they had the
luck Coachell experience, Like the guy's got a humongous house

(25:02):
on a golf course and there's you know, chefs and
like just a million dollar experience, you know, and like
the artists don't even have that there.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
You know.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
It's like I you know, you're like in a dusty
trailer or something, and like we all caterings closing, it's like, oh,
can I still get dinner? It's like sorry now, you know,
it's like you know, it's like it's it's I don't know,
it's But that's the whole point too, is that you
can you can essentially buy the artist experience like Cochelle.
You can like buy an artist pass, you can buy
a VIP pass whatever. So it's enticing to these people.

(25:31):
But that's why I love it. You know, it's like
the you go for the celebs, you know, you go
to people watch. Although the first couple of years we played,
I was looking for the wrong celebs, Like I'm looking
for like Jack Nicholson or something like. You know, you
got to look for the contemporary, the TikTokers. You got
to look for Jack. Keep your eyes feel for Jack.
I mean I would I saw, you know, you go

(25:51):
to Lakers game. That's where you see Jack. Yeah, you
ever see that photo of him at the Lakers game
where him and his buddy brought homemade chili to eat
and he just spilt it all rest pants. It's so
and he's just sitting there like a ship, like what
do I do? Now?

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Check with aericndre with Aeric Condre.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
What's the well you already said the most wasted you've
been on stage. I don't know if that was the
most wasted. There's definitely been other instances where I've just
been I mean it's like, you know, it's it's funny
getting into the swing of Like there was about a
year and a half or two year period where I
would drink a full two six of Jamison on stage
every night.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
It was like I would just.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Are those early tours or are those your early tours? No,
this is like this is like maybe you know the
two albums ago, last album? Yeah, so it's like but
your nerves or for fun. I think it was just like, well,
let's just see how far down this road we can go,
you know. But it was there were there were nights.

(27:08):
I remember we played a show I think it might
be the only show we ever played in Pittsburgh and
we just played for I mean, we played the songs
we were gonna play, like my songs, and then I
was so so like it just erupted into this like
jam thing. I like don't remember the show at all,
but there's videos of it. We played for like three
and a half hours or something like a lot of

(27:28):
it is just like kind of weird slow jamming, and
I'm making people say I'm like Turkey, and they're like
saying Turkey back to It's this whole thing and I
just remember, you know, the show was finished. I'm laying
on the back the back patio. There's like a masseuse
there giving me a massage. I don't know, it's just
like there's a blur of this era where it's like,
you know, there were a lot of shows where I

(27:49):
couldn't walk after the show, and that was like that.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
You know, do you think toe to toe drink for drink,
cigarette for cigarette?

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Did you ever surpass post malone or were you guys
to kind of neck and neck for SIGs post party
with this? One time we party would post in Tokyo.
We were both playing at Fuji Rock and we took
him to this. Didn't he smoke four to five packs
a day? I wouldn't be surprised, I mean, I never
I'm sure that if I was at you know, if
it was the right music festival and we played early

(28:19):
enough in the day, like four packs wouldn't be out
of the four that's eighty cigarettes. Yeah, it's a shitload.
I mean but it's like, you know, here's the thing.
I bet it's the same a Post too. When your
Post and you got SIGs, everybody's having a sig. You
go through four or five packs. I don't know, but there,
I mean there was a long time where I was
smoking at least two packs a day, which is like
that's a lot of cigarettes, you know. But but Post,

(28:39):
I remember there was a nut yet we took him
to Beat Cafe. This guy Kato man in in Tokyo.
He runs this bar named Beat Cafe. And we went
there with Posts and me and all my guys, like
we drank. We all drank a lot. A lot of
us were from Canada. It's like it's kind of you know,
that's that's the.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
Yeah, it's a nation founded by alcoholics. Exaxactly, John, what's
what's your George Roshing called Johnny Apples?

Speaker 3 (29:00):
What's like Johnny Apples? He's got the big Schnas. I
don't even know.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
John McDonald, John McDonald, John McDonald, have you seen that
guy Schnas? That guy drank his face into an explosion exactly.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Yea. But so you're drinking in Tokyo Post, Yeah, we
were with Posts and we were drinking in there and
Post I mean Post there was it got to the
post gets hammered. I don't know if he does anymore.
I haven't seen him in quite a few years. But
he was like on the ground, like rolling around and
we had that. There was a point where we were
all hammered too. We had to go to security like
don't you think like maybe you should take him home?
Like you can't stand up now, what's going on? So

(29:34):
in that one instance, we I would say, we out
drank Post nice. But he's a he's a beer man,
like he loves to drink. The budd Light guy. Yeah
that was interesting too. That year he actually had like
palettes of bud Light flown into Fuji Rock, which is
like bud Light jet rough bud Light. Yeah, Japan, Japan's
got good like light light beer, Like why not just

(29:55):
drink that? But he is a he loves his bud Lights.
So bud Light's tough man. It's easy to drink. I
think that's the thing. It's like a casual doesn't make
you feel full, doesn't make you drunk too fast. But
also I like drinking to get drunk. I'm like exactly,
that's the whole thing. I never really thought that there
was any you know, I mean the flavor, never, I

(30:15):
don't know, fancy cocktail.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
It's just kind of like the faster the you know.
That's why jamison is so great. It's because it's it's
quite easy to drink, and you can drink it fast,
and it's kind of like the Coca cola hard alcohol
or whatever. And then there you are. I'm a big rum.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Guy, I'm a rum. I'm part pirate rum. Rum is mine.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
I'll say this. This is another instance of me being
really hammered on stage that I'm just remembering. My friend
Mollie Lewis. She's a whistler and she was doing the
show at Zibulon. What do you mean she's like a whistler.
She's a whistlership. You know, she's an opera level can yah.
She's crazy really good whistler. And she was a professional

(30:54):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And she was doing
a whistle show down at Zebulon, like not far from
a you know, the zone in La and uh. And
she wanted me to come and sing this Frank Sinatra song,
a song called Change Partners. This was years ago and
I don't drink gin. Really. I was a whiskey guy,
ort tequila guy or whatever I loved. But I was like,
I'm singing a Frank Sinatra song tonight, I'm gonna drink Martini's.

(31:18):
And so I just started drinking these Jim Martinez. I
think I had like maybe twenty maybe twenty gin, and
it was this gin. It was fucked up. Martini is
basically just Gin with a little remove. It was like that.
The performance was okay, and I had a nice time there,
but I was so drunk. And say, if it was
what happened after you know that plays Astro diner down

(31:40):
the street from the so I was there, I was
one thing led to another, was hugging my friend, you know,
he had to lead. I don't know. I ended up
falling through one of the stained glass windows at after Diner,
but but my I also had my my cock and
balls out of my jeans for some reason. So I
fell through, and as soon as I fell through, I
would I was like it was so sobering. All of

(32:01):
a sudden, I was like, oh, okay, time to get
up and go tell them that I'll replace the glass,
and I like start walking in but Cura. My girlfriend
was like like stop stop, and I was like what
and she had to, like she pushed my balls back
in my jeans, hipped the jeans up, and then I
walked in. I was like, I'm so sorry, I've destroyed
your And actually I paid for the windows, like two
hundred bucks, like it took like months and months and months,
and then to get it.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
They have staying that's windows like a church, these low
there's these low ones.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Yeah, I mean I think that place has been there
for a long time, but they kind of know me
in there now because I, yeah, fell the acids like
twenties Zebulan marts. Yeah, brutal, But man, what are you
gonna do? Were you ever a cocaine guy? Where you
big coke? Coke? Not really? No, there's a lot of
big drinkers are.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
Like they like sniffing the they like sniffing the stuff
to kind of get them to die.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
Yeah, I never became you know, it's funny, It's like
I never really became that much of a drugman. You
weren't popping mally shelfing pingers. I mean, there's been music
festivals over the years that for sure, you know, But
but It's like I never I never really seeked it out.
I guess it was always just kind of like I
suppose I suppose I will yeah, No, probably, yeah, some
of those I mean, especially with the molly and that.
You know, it's like you just don't know what you're

(33:10):
getting sometimes and it, you know, you end up having
a insane We have had some insane experiences. But I
remember just watching we watched Outcast at a festival in Belgium,
and we had all the whole crew had taken some
pills that some kid had given us, and we're just
in that little there's that little turret or like the
little like moat or whatever that you know, from the
front of house to the stage and we're all in

(33:32):
there holding the railing like watching out Class play, like
just so terrified and like so so high. Yeah, horrible.
You know. It's kind of drug is whippets.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
I've probably done millions and millions and millions of whippets.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
I've never done whippets, but I have a lot of
friends that have indulged in that.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
The best it's is.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
It similar to like poppers?

Speaker 4 (33:53):
No, I think poppers is the poor man's whippits. Poppers
VHS cleaner, Like it is true hopping chemicals. Nitrous oxide
is not only food grade, but the dentist gives it
to you when they give you a dental procedure. They're
not giving they're not giving you VHS cleaner. So I'm
very Uh, I'm a whippit advocate.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
That's medical. I like that, that's medical stuff. I feel.
We there was a while we knew this guy and uh,
just speaking about interesting drugs at this point. There was
a guy named Bruno that used to take us around
when we go down to Brazil, and he would still
but we'd have been down in a long time, but
he used to have this He never sat down. This guy,
he's like a very you know, very fit bald man.
Wore a nice little hat. He had this amulet. He

(34:35):
would always wear a he and we'd ask about he'd
be like, you can look, but like no touching, and
he was always kind of dancing like this. He never
sat down. He was always standing up. Even if we're driving.
We would drive like four hours doing their city. He'd
stand up in the in the you know, the van
the whole time. But he had this this It was
like a little tin of like brown powder and he
used to sprinkle a little bit like right there on

(34:56):
his hand and yeah, you know, it's like some kind
of like brown cocaine. I was like, the Bruno, what
is that? It was apparently like the crushed up roots
of like an ancient tree and it gets yell jacked out.
It's some crazy.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
That's so cool to me. That's so cool. That guy
sounds like the coolest guy. He's cool. He had a
lot of good times for Bruno. He's a great guy.
Montel Valle's his last name. Great guy. What more can
we say?

Speaker 4 (35:31):
I mean, the craziest thing you've done is like acupuncture
and you got to like, what do you gotta do
like explode semen and your girlfriend or something.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
No semen allowed, where you explode the uterus? No semen allowed?
How do you do that? I don't know, I said,
Like he you know, doctor Kim is like he speaks English,
but he's he's Korean and he's like E s L.
So it's kind of like you know I was, I said.
When he said that, I was like edging and he went, okay,
you know we didn't really meet in the middle on it,

(36:00):
but he says a lot of crazy things, you know.
Yesterday he told me some cool ones where he was
kind of like, he's like the sandwich work never sandwich
while working, never never sandwich time, work time. I was like, okay,
I respect that. Do not eat when you work, make
it separate, do not the other thing he says all
the time. He says, I should become a CIA agent

(36:22):
so I can get the license to kill. Then I
can kill my boss. Because my boss is stressing me out.
I don't think he realizes that I'm kind of like
a you know, I kind of am the boss, but yes, insane.
He's fully insane. And I lay there and I let
him just shove me full of needles. Actually, one of
the ones that he put in my arm yesterday, my
hands kind of fucked up from it.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
So I think some of those needles are dirty. I
did at a few times. I'm like, I feel like
they're reusing some of these needles.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Yeah, I wonder. I don't like that A few times.
Gives me the fucking Hebrew gis a little bit. Yeah.
The cupping. Has you have you ever done the blood cupping?

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Oh? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (36:59):
He like stabbed my foot three times and I was
like ah yeah, and then he sucked all this blood
out and he's like, you have a fever in your liver,
but don't worry. I'm sucking it up now. Okay, brutal,
but you know, kind of cool. Interesting. I want to
hang with this guy in Bruno. Yeah, Bruno and doctor Cam.
That would be a wild what a tour Brazil with
both of them. I love it, Mac. What's left to

(37:24):
be said? I don't know. Thank you for having me
on your show. Yeah, thanks man, Thanks thanks.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
It's a new show and we're figuring it out as
we go, and that's cool. You are a phenomenal guest
and you know I love you and I will be
back in La in a couple of weeks. And let's
go to fucking Astroberger and crash.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
Absolutely windows, Belimo, bellissimo.

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