September 10, 2025 • 33 mins
Eric and Sam talk about Dorchester life and performing in Black rooms. Plus, Sam remembers a brawl breaking out on stage involving fists and chairs. Be careful when you crowd surf, might want to protect ya booty hole.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, this is Eric Andre Walcome my new podcast Bombing,
where I talk to friends, comedians, musicians, and other creative
people about their worst moments on stage and being annihilated
by a live audience. Our next guest coming up, Sam J.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Let's do it Bombing Balming with Eric Anddred.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
All Right, we are here with the very funny, wickedly
talented comedian Sam J. Put your hands together, right, Sam Jay?
Is in the building where you from?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Sam?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Boston, Boston, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Roxbury and Dover, fucking Tiwsbury.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Dorchester, Dorchester, from Dorchester.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I went to a fucking dunkin Donuts in Dorchester. I
gave the guy a fifty. He goes, holy shit, a fifty.
What's your dad a freaking doctor?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Bro, you're killing it. That's good, that's a good one.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
But you're black. That's not the black.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I'm black.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
That's not the black Dorchester. No, we accent. That's a
white guy. And yeah, that's a white guy in Boston.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Black people don't really have like a super accent thing
going on.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Boston is segregated.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I went to college there.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Oh yeah, did you with school?
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Berkeley College Music? It was jazz.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Okay, you're a Berkeley kid. You were in a good area.
It was by Newberry, it was cool over there.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Did you ever do Emerald Isle the comedy show? Now
you did, But you're younger than I don't think we
crossed past.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I'm not. I'm not younger than you. For I'm older
than you.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Bro, No you're not. It's how you you're younger than me.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
You look black? Do on crack?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Don't?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Baby? You look great.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I'm going to be forty one.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
So like this close, okay close. So when we might
have been at the Emerald diald, what are you doing
stand up?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Like?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
When did you start doing stand up?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I wasn't okay, so like I was like twenty year
like like twenty twenty one. Yeah, and then I was
like I wanted to try it, but I was mad,
like shook. But you know, Chris tab and Corey used
to run Emerald all they should have like a Sunday
show there. Chris tab is my brother, well cousin in law,
that is a thing. He's married to my cousin. So
(02:02):
I would kind of follow them around to try to
like get a sense of like what it was.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, and that's how I ended up at the Emerald.
I did like it was bad. I did like three
minutes of not good stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Oh that was that your first show?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
No, my very first show ever ever was Dick Doherty's
Comedy Vault.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Oh yeah, so you did all the Boston Yeah? Did
you ever do Nicks?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
It was kind of run by the mafia, wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Everyone always says, Dude.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
The guys there, they look like sopranos. I remember Shake
trying to shake the guys. I was twenty years old.
I was like, can I just see the show?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
How?
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I can't afford any I can't afford the ticket and
I don't have an idea, says I'm twenty one. And
he's just like, just get inside, and I go, nice
to meet you. I'm Eric. He goes, I don't need
to know your fucking name. I said, get inside, and
I was like, gosh, comedy.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Rough in Boston.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Boston's rough, I remember I did. I went to the
Comedy Connection. What was the one done? The Comedy Connection?
And I did it? Open Mike there once? I did Okay,
I did okay, And then the next time I went there,
and then the first time I went there, the comics
were like, hey, you need a soda a glass of water.
Just go on the back and take a soda gun
and help yourself. Like okay. The second time I went,
I want to go serve myself a glass of water,
(03:13):
and the owner came up to me. He goes, you're
gonna walk right fucking past me in my comedy club
and you're gonna serve yourself water without saying hello to me.
You're not gonna fucking respect me. And I was like, dude,
I'm a child and I just need a little water.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Welcome the Boston.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah, I was like, what the fuck? And that was
like the kickoff to comedy. So I was like, oh god,
it's all mob run, Like my life's gonna be like
I'm gonna get shot. The first impression was no worse.
I was like, I'm gonna get an ice pick to
the neck.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
What a mess up impression for something that's purely silly.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
It's silly, it's crazy. And then and then it wasn't
like too much like that. But yeah, I think when
you start out, you just started out with lunatics.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Oh yeah, yeah, early comedy, you're just you're with the
bottom of the barrel. The bull, every type of One time,
this is no disrespect to the homeless, but one time
I was on stag. I was on stage at an
open mic and I'm like, this is my dream, this
(04:14):
is my life. Every minute matters, you know what I mean.
And I get off stage and a homeless man walked
in from off the street. He's like, can I go?
And they were like sure. I was like what?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
And then did he crush?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
He crushed? He crushed. He was so funny just talking
about being homeless.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Crushed.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
He killed it.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Williams.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
It's like, Yo, what am I doing?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
So when did you move here from Boston?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I moved. I moved to La So it was where
because I was young. I lived in l A first,
so I was young. I tried it. Then I moved
to Atlanta, and I was just doing other stuff for
like seven years.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
What that mean?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Just other stuff? I was working in music. I was
just doing a bunch of other crab chasing pussy, you know, shit, okay, living.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
And getting drunk, club recognized, real.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
You know, living being young and living and figuring myself out,
running away from some stuff, fighting some demons, you know,
just that phase of life. And then I moved back
to Boston. Started for real in Boston at like twenty nine.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Okay, so like it was on and off in twenties
and then you were like, no, I'm gonna do this.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Yeah, twenty nine, you're soul searching. For a little bit,
soul searching. I was doing all types of crap, but no,
and then I just I started like twenty nine, I
like took it real serious. Then I moved to La.
Then I got JFL, then I got SNL and then
that brought me to New York and then I just
stayed because I can't stay in La.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, no, Las, I'm don't with it. For thirteen years,
I like LA. I don't hate LA, but I don't
love LA. I love New York City. I love New
York City, and is it in LA? For thirteen years
and I was just like, I can't fucking than. Nothing
films out here, nothing films out here. All my meetings
are virtual. You can do any writer's room on Zoom,
you can do any meeting on zoom, whatever. And then
(06:10):
everything shoots in Atlanta, New Orleans, Toronto.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And I sure I don't
hate LA. I have friends in La. I'm like when
I'm there for little spurts, I'm like, this is all right, yeah,
but it is like long term, I just get bored.
To be quite honest, I just get very bored.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
It's boring.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
It's boring. I feel like it's more for like when
you're done, like.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Like retired, Yeah, you got your kid.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
You just want like yard space and fresh air all
the time.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah, I'm like what am I? But I feel like
I was like, am I missing something? Is there something
appealing to this place that I'm missing? And then I'm
like no, And then I was like the people that
are into it are a little boring.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
So yeah, no, they're like they're they've settled down, like
we're still out here dogs running the streets.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
You got kids?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
No?
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Do you want kids?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
No?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
No, that's it. I'm not gonna adopt nothing.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
No. I mean like, I'm a lesbian, so it can't
happen on accident. You know, it's like a deliberate decision.
And I've gone this long and I'm like, chilling, You're not.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Grabbing the baster. You're not grabbing the bastern.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Sometimes my fiance talks like she wants to, but I
don't think she really does.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
I mean, she wants to me, she wants to think
so bro, and you don't want to. So she's trying
to She's trying to tiptoe around it, like yeah you
want to, right, and you're like no, And then she's
like but you kind of do right.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Well, maybe maybe that's it.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
What if she's like, I really really read it, then.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I have to and then I have this kid I
hate perfect you know how it works?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
All right? I want to ask you about stand up comedy. Yeah,
what is the worst You've ever bombed? That's what this
podcast is about. It's called bombing worst show You've ever had?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
The worst? Oh, I was touring with Jonathan Gates. He
was the first person to take me out and like
be like you're ready to feature and like do her
old time.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I don't know, Jonathan, Jonathan, paint me a picture.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Jonathan Is he runs the only black room in Boston Slaves.
It's a Wednesday night, like comedy night. It's the only
black night.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
In this city.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
It's at this spot in Roxbury that's known for its
chicken wings. You know. It's like real, like you're in
the hood. And he's an old deaf gym guy. He
used to be on the Deaf Jam Shore. He's like
Martin Lawrence, so he's like that style of a comedian,
which was great for me because I went to the
like white side of comedy first because I was scared
to do it like around people like my actual friend,
(08:30):
Like I didn't you know what I'm saying, Like I
didn't want to do it in my neighborhood. Then I'm bad.
And then I got to catch the bus and the
nigga's like boom. So I would go all the way
to Vermont because I was like, I don't care about
these white people like to see him again, you know
what I'm saying, So just don't work out. I'm still
intact at home, you know what I mean. So I
(08:51):
waited like a good while before I even like ventured
over there. But then it was good because it was
it's like the crowd work, all that other stuff that
I kind of was missing for the other rooms. I
really needed to be like a well rounded comic. And
so he was like the first to pay me like
real money.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
He was the first to take you under his way.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yeah, like heavy real money, like talk to me about
like what I was doing, and taught me a lot
of the habits I think you get in those more
ALTI rooms. He kind of got me like in the middle,
you know what I mean. Like he would be like, yo,
you just killed like this was that was the joke?
Why'd you keep talking?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
And I'm like I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
And he's like, I don't care if it's if you
have fifteen, but you hit that joke at ten. Leave?
What are you hanging out for it? I'm like, you
know what, You're right man, I'm tripping. So like a
little bit of that stuff I learned from him.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
He was an early mentor early mentor.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
So he takes me out of town and at this point,
I'm like riding high. I've like done like a few
like weekends with him. I've killed. I'm like, yeah, I
got this. Got this. We go through some like birthday
party for some like old drug dealer legend of like Cincinnati.
We were like in the weirdest place I don't remember
(10:00):
where we were. It was like a like a freaking
VF W Hall type of situation that they like fully
decked out. Yeah, but they like they made it as
nice as you could possibly make, like an Elks Lodge situation.
Everybody was like dressed to the nines but like older,
you know. And it was pat and I got out
(10:23):
and my first joke was about like a strap them
on or something like. It was something about not feeling
it or some some strap on joke. And they're just
staring at me like crickets. They giving me nothing black room,
and they're just like, no, that first joke doesn't work.
(10:43):
But it's like, just like strap on joke has been
killing you know. I've been like strap on my strap
and people be like, you know what I mean, but
this is just like we not, we are not interested
in your little gay tails. So at that point it's
like I think it.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Was a homophobic response or what.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I think they just didn't care.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I think if I would have maybe packaged it some
other way, they could have been with it. I didn't
feel anti me as much as it was like why
you talking to us about strap right?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Right?
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Were you the first to go up you? Were you
opening up the room or was there somebody on before you?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
It was one person all before me, You're not And
I was right before Jonathan, and I just like dig
in because I don't know what else to do this
is the stuff I have.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
It's like if the ship that always kills like it's crickets,
then you're like and all.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I had at that point was like I was doing
this whole chunk about like gay sex, so like it
just goes from there to eat and pussy. It just
it just just because that's all I had, and I
just I just stood in it. And they never they
never laughed, they never booed me, but they eventually stopped
paying attention to me, which I think is worse. Yeah,
(11:57):
they just started like having their own commerce and like
doing their own thing, like when whenever it's this overworld
check back in. And then I got off and like
the dude who was hosting was like a dude that
kind of like was working the event, but he wasn't
like a comic, but he was like, you know, it
was one of those type of nights like j T
go host and this's gonna happen. So he comes up
(12:19):
and he's like, you know that young lady tried and
like gives this whole speech about how they need to
be better as like a like.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Which is worse worse.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
It's like when kids make fun of you and then
the principal stands you in front of the class. They're like,
don't even do that. Her dad just died, you know.
It's like that's like crappy energy. And that was probably
the worst. And then the next day Jonathan took me
off to breakfast and he was like, so, what the
fuck happened? I was like, man, I don't know. He
(12:51):
was like, what do you think happened? And then we
had like it was cool because I just talked about
like what I think when.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Were you in agony? Were emotional? I was pretty yeah,
I was pretty love it wakes you up.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I was pretty low. Yeah, I was pretty low.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
You have ten good shows in a row, you get
one bad, and it hangs over you.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Till you shake it because you I mean, I think
you feel like comedy is a bit like you're lucky
to be able to do it, and you feel a
little bit like it's not in your control, Like it's
this weird mystic thing that you're like wielding. So when
you have like a bad show, it's like an omen
over you. It's like, oh I lost it? Am I
ever gonna give you? To get it bad?
Speaker 1 (13:27):
You feel like your magical power.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Is just left you yeah, and it's like it hangs
on you to you like have a good show, a.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Little bit torture. Why do we do it?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
I don't know, because we've watched all those like dumb
movies that like mess your head up. I think it's
really like media, except like what I was going to.
There's always these movies where like someone's like the greatest
kicker or baseball player, and then it's like all of
a sudden, they have like one bad kick and then
they're just I can't it's lose their whole life, you know,
(13:58):
with a.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Godre with ariddre shit.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
One time I did Wendy Williams had a show when
I lived here in my early twenties in New York.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
She had a show.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
She had a comedy show to Laugh Factory on I
don't think it's there anymore. It's like on eighth and
forty second Street. It was there back in the day.
It's like early two thousands, and Capone hosted I don't
know if you know who Copone is all black room
and I was like probably like two years into comedy
and I only played like alt rooms up until this
(14:35):
this particular night. And oh, the guy that booked me,
I did like really high energy stuff. So he's like,
and he saw me at the improv or something, so
he's like, go up and just do do your high
energy stuff. I was like, okay, and I'm watching all
the comics. I was like, I don't know if I'm right,
if I'm the right flavor. I think I think people
want less death metal and more R and B at
(14:58):
this particular you and uh and I get on stage
and the first joke out of my mouth, I try
to make fun of the three women in the front audience.
They look like SWV, and I go s W. I
wanted to go s WV is here, and I messed
up the letters. I was like SWP is here and
people were like what and then and then and then
that was it. It was like it was over. And
(15:20):
they were like what, like the whole fifteen hundred was
a big theater. What? And then and then I was like, anyway,
I'm from Florida. They were like, And I got through
my first joke and I looked over at Wendy Williams
and she gave me like, you're doing okay. I mean
you're not doing okay, but like it's it's gonna be
okay kind of look. And then I was like all right,
and I got off stage and I had somebody I
(15:40):
like begged this other comedian to film it and he
didn't want to, and like then I got off.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Bad energy all around it.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
My god, I felt so horrible. Then Capone went on
stage after me and he's like, I don't know who
that dude was, but he'll never come back here again.
And the crowd was like I saw fuck e. Like
thousands of people like left, and he ripped into me
(16:08):
and he was like, like, did my set like a
bad version of it? He was like that guy was
talking about he did like five minute riff which is
longer than I was on stage, about how horrible I was,
and everyone was like like high five and it was
gut wrenching. I was just sitting in the back, like
(16:28):
you know with Vietnam chopper sound effects of my like,
but that ship traumatized me, but it made me like
the man I am.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Once you get through it, you know you can do
it forever.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Once you get through that, you know that like you've
been to like the bottom, you've been to the fucking
ninth circle of hell. What's the worst you've seen somebody
else bomb? Is there any like fights you've ever seen
in a comedy club or like just a standing boovation.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Just I'm like, wow, there's so many.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah, it's hard. It's like naming your favorite album.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
And every bomb you see makes you feel like spectacular.
They're all so funny. They're all so funny like watching them.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Have you ever seen like a fight or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
I've definitely seen some comedy fights, mostly between comedians over
like stage time and wearing goofy stuff. Oh ship. I
was at the store. I was just a young young
comic hanging out and Bob Sumner had a night there.
It was a black comedy night, and there was a
(17:38):
gentleman on stage. He did he did, he did his routine,
had a catchphrase he was yeah, but it was it
was a repeated catchphrase, and he had issues with this
other comic and this comic was They had gotten into
it already. This had been like documented, they had gotten.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
To it outside of existing beef.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Yeah, they had gotten to it side of the laugh factory,
and like rumors were swirling. It was over one of
the comics wives or something. I don't know, but this
comic was supposed to be like incarcerated.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Oh shit.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
So the comic who was on stage had like put
a restraining order out against ship danger as far as
I know, right, as far as I know, I don't know.
I don't know if I have all effects right, but
this is what I heard, was like a restraining order whatever.
So the only reason this comic was in l A
at the time was because this other comic was supposed
to be somewhere where he could not get miss him.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Mister A. Yeah, because mister A had the Hamburger catchphrase yep.
And mister B had the the was a guy that
was violent and like, yeah it was bad news yep. Okay,
And mister A had a restraining order against mister B. Yeah,
because it was good because they had prior beef.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yes. And I don't want to say mister B was
bad news because he he is and was not. He's
just a real nigga.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
His name was just a B. Now you can say
talk any shit you want to be.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Just stands all what he what he's saying, what he means,
you know what I mean. So I don't want to
say he's a bad dude. He just he's just a
real nigga. If me tell you don't don't cross you
cross them and let you know this consequences.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Oh, so mister A catchphrase is there because he thinks
mister B and somewhere with mister B. Can I access him? Okay,
mid set.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Why does mister B have it out for mister A.
What is their prior beef?
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Thing is over mister B's wife. Mister A kept trying
to pursue or or something with mister B's wife. Mister
betty clear.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Crazy, that's crazy. I thought it was like, oh, he's
stole a joke or something. No, no, like you're trying
to fuck dude's wife.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
He's like, cut that out. It's not cool to be
that you acted this way this day was like trying
to fuck you and.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
It's about the guy's wife.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yeah, it kind of turns off.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Man.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
That's crazy as.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Far as I know. Again, oh you can't guy's wife.
It's like, so where there watching mister A catchphrase? He's like,
mid catchphrase is packed in there, and mister B comes
(20:11):
bursting in to the room holding the restraining or the
paperwork because he's like, you bitch ass nigga, you thought
this she was gonna keep me for sucking you up.
You thought I was. You thought I was locked up, nigga,
I'm not locked up. In the middle of the middle
of the show, we're like, oh, he walks up to
(20:33):
the stage.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Did you think it was like a sketch at first?
Like this is It's like, this.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Is the real. So he walks up to the stage,
she picks up a chair and they just start fighting.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
It was like Will Smith Chris Rock, but to the
to the tenth.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Yes, tons of fighting, like fighting, brawling, fighting. Mister mister
A Trace is not from California. Mister v is from
l A and has the type of ties niggas from
l A have.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
So he had his boys there too.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
All these jump up, start being this man up and
where were you were you in the crowd? We were
like like like not at the top of that comedy
but like at the bottom, but at the back of
the bottom store, at.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
The at the.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
At the main room at the comedy store, in the
back a little bar show or something.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
So he beating this man up to stuff he dude.
The dude was still trying to when he first jumped up,
so he jumped he hit him with the chair and
the dude it was like wowd but it wasn't like
knock him out and then dudes like what's your problem?
Like it was like this is not the time to
still be talking into the microphone, mister everything.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Like I was trying to say.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Like, like, what's what's wrong with you? Man? It's like
bur bro, everything's over. And it could have been the
hit first been the chair, Like you know what I'm saying.
It could have been the hit first in the chair,
but I've chair and I remember hit. The order could
have been versus had to be at least five years
ago they broke it up.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Is there video footage of this?
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Someone has it.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
There's got to be.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
There. People will hear this story and exactly who I
am talking about.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
So it's a famous night, infamous.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
It's like it's an infamous Yes, it's like if you
were there, it was like it was.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
It was like a legendary now and it put.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Mister B in a category of he is not one
to be fucked with because he will beat your ass.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
And so he hits he hits chair, beat him up.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
They finally pulled each other apart. They take mister be
completely out the venue, Bob Sumner that gets on the
stage and begins to basically beray us as black people,
like why we can't we have ship? He's just trying
to do something nice?
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Was the producer showed.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
He lectured.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Like he was like Morgan Freeman at the Bad High School.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. Coach Carter, what is
your greatest man? So yeah, man, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
You went from being like, oh, I don't have a
I don't have a crazy story about saying somebody Bob
to like the craziest story I've ever heard take place
in a comedy cloth And then did other people go on?
Or was the show that was a rat?
Speaker 3 (23:51):
That was a rat? Bob got up, he screamed at us, Oh,
very very emotional, lean on me speaks, And then it
was like.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
We gotta dig up that footage.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
With a recondre with a recdre.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
What is the most wasted you've ever been on stage?
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Man, have you ever been like or like drunk?
Speaker 3 (24:29):
That is like now I can remember?
Speaker 1 (24:31):
That was okay on stage?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
I was on shrooms.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah, how'd that go?
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Sometimes it goes great.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I did a shrooms show show. It was kind of
one of the best sets I've ever had, and I
improvised like crazy, yes, like I need to write this down.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Sometimes it's so lucid that you can like get it
off and like I won't do it like if it's serious,
Like but if it's like a mic and I'm just
like let me play and try to find stuff or whatever,
or like a light show. But this is only because
I did do it when it was serious and it
was not good.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
I was on shrooms and on like a little micro
dose or like a lot, or I was on like.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
A I was on a little shrewn weed combo, like
a little micro dos or shroom a little edible sweet spot,
and I was taping something. So I had agreed to
do this, like taping for a Nerd melt. It was
like Nerd, but it wasn't like the show. Like it
wasn't like Amal's show. It was like just some like
(25:32):
thing they were doing like online.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
It was like a Comedy Central show.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
No, it wasn't That's what I'm saying. It wasn't the
It wasn't that one. I've done that one. But this
was like something where they were like streaming it online
or putting it online for like NERD melt something whatever
it was, and I was like, yeah, sure one night
when I was there, like whatever. So also I'm thinking
this isn't a big deal, Like I don't know, Yeah,
it's just something some online thing they're doing. Like I'm
(25:56):
like really minimizing it in my brain, which is on.
And then I show up and they got like real cameras.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
It's like a.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Real situation, and I'm like, oh ship, They're like we're
only like the set was different, the whole thing was.
And I always forget when I'm in LA, like anyone
can make anything of true production there kind of easily.
(26:24):
So when people just be like, oh, it's chill, you
always got to think it might be something because because
they have access to just turn it up like that.
So I'm already like shipping bricks because I'm like I
shouldn't have done what I did, you know, because this
is a lot of stimulation that I was not expectings.
I was getting very nervous. It's getting very nervous. But
(26:47):
I get up and I'm like just breathe through it
and like do what the fuck you gotta do, and
I'm good. I'm good. I'm going and I'm like I
am fine, I got this ship, and then I just
forget everything. No, yeah, like the whole. Nope, yeah, the whole.
I just I get to a place and I just stop,
and I'm like and I'm standing there for it. I'm high.
(27:11):
So it felt like fucking twenty minutes, but it probably
had to be like at least three minutes, which is
a long time. And I'm like, I really don't know
what I was about to say at this like recording,
I'm like, yo.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
How much what minute were you at that point? Why?
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Six?
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
And what were you supposed to do? Like fifteen or so?
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Yeah, like fifteen minute six. I was like six minutes
in and I was just exactly and it was like
I was too high to give it, you know what
I mean, Like I was too hod to just be
like pop into something else and just ride that wave.
Because I was yelling at myself in my head like
how could you forget? Why are you? Like you know,
I'm having that, Like how could you let this have it?
(27:54):
You don't deserve anything, so you're just dear in the
head like I was deare full deer in the headlights,
like yo, oh ship, Like I really don't know what
I'm gonna say, and then somehow I picked it up.
But I it was like I had to acknowledge it,
(28:15):
you know what I mean, Like it went on long
enough where I had to be like, I have made
an error.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yeah, yeah you should. You could have just gone listen, guys.
I got really high. I didn't know you guys are
gonna have real cameras.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeah, I coulda just went, That's what I'm saying. I
just couldn't even but I like, I was like, fuck,
I don't know, man, and so I just kind of
like picked up kept going. But then because I was high,
some fire shit happened and I remembered, oh shit, and
then I was I picked the joke back up close
to the end and it's still tied into something else.
(28:47):
And then I was like yeah and that and that
was my made off moment. I was like, I'm fucking underfeared.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
So you came up with your dismount you got laughs.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
And yeah, I got laughs and people were like and
she ripped Ever, she's a fucking and that's that's what
started the monster that I am. Yeah, that was my
mate off moment. Like I was watching the Bernie Mayoff
things and then I was like, oh, he got away
with that one thing, and then he was running it's
all about.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
He got away with one line. And then he was like,
fuck it, I'm going in yep. Oh, I want to
tell you a story about me bombing, and then I
want to ask a couple of questions. One time, I uh.
It was season four of The Eric Andre Show and
I was doing a tour to promote the show. So
I do like, it's not a stand up tour. It's
(29:36):
like the live version of the talk show where I
like jump out on stage and I break a ton
of stuff and I interview people from the audience, and
I'll interview like a celebrity guest in every tournament or whatever.
It'll be like the local pawnshop guy from some reality
show if I'm like in Des Moines or something. So
it was like season four and I would do a
tour with Byron Bowers. So he was on Byron was
on stage warming up the crowd. Then he went ladies
(29:58):
and gentlemen, it's the Eric Andrey Show. Is the first show.
The tours in Vancouver, Columbia, British Columbia, Canada. We're in Vancouver.
Tons of kids in the audience Byron Goes, Ladies and Gentlemen,
the You're Country Show. I run out from backstage under
the stage. I burst through my desk. I started peeing
up the desk. I jump into the crowd, CrowdSurf and
(30:18):
usually the crowd just like whatever CrowdSurf around. I go
back to the stage.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I jump in the crowd, I'm like, you know, they're
like all holding me up with their hands. My back
is like to their hands or whatever. Then I feel
like one kid underneath me try to stick all four
fingers up my butt crack, just shoving my butt crack.
Then another kid grabs my dick and balls as hard
as he can, and then like another kid licks his
(30:44):
sucks on his finger and gives me a wet willie.
And then another kid grabbed a hot dog off the
ground and shoved it in the back.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
And it was crazy.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
I was like, and I started doing like street karate,
and some kids form and started drawing and quartering my
limbs in different directions.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Yeah, they were like tearing me alive in like a
medieval assault. It was crazy. So I was like and
then finally like chicken punching of them to like get
down on the ground and this other kid kept like
coming at me with like giving me a wet willie
and like grabbing, grabbing me, and I just went, thank you.
The stomach is hard to say, Eric.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
That's when you gotta turn black and start beating these
white kids' asses.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
I punched them. I was like primal rage. I was
just like, this is god, dude. I punched him in
the stomach as hard as I could, and he went oh.
Then he looked up at me and he went yeah,
like he loved it. And then I crawled back to
the stage and I was like, I'll never a crowd.
Certain that was the first thirty seconds of the first
(31:51):
show of my.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Tour, Like I gotta chase my whole I've been finding
some singa I gotta.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
This is Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
It was crazy, and that's kind of what Hammil said.
Hannil was like, and I was like, you created this
life for yourself.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
I was just thinking, like, that's what you'll ask.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
He said, you created this son.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Any black person's gonna be like that's to get a
playing the white people games.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Well, Sam Jay, it has been an absolute pleasure. Thank you,
thanks for coming in. Thanks appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
With every condre.
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Let's do it Bombing Balming with Eric Anddred.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
All Right, we are here with the very funny, wickedly
talented comedian Sam J. Put your hands together, right, Sam Jay?
Is in the building where you from?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Sam?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Boston, Boston, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Roxbury and Dover, fucking Tiwsbury.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Dorchester, Dorchester, from Dorchester.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I went to a fucking dunkin Donuts in Dorchester. I
gave the guy a fifty. He goes, holy shit, a fifty.
What's your dad a freaking doctor?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Bro, you're killing it. That's good, that's a good one.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
But you're black. That's not the black.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I'm black.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
That's not the black Dorchester. No, we accent. That's a
white guy. And yeah, that's a white guy in Boston.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Black people don't really have like a super accent thing
going on.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Boston is segregated.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I went to college there.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Oh yeah, did you with school?
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Berkeley College Music? It was jazz.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Okay, you're a Berkeley kid. You were in a good area.
It was by Newberry, it was cool over there.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Did you ever do Emerald Isle the comedy show? Now
you did, But you're younger than I don't think we
crossed past.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I'm not. I'm not younger than you. For I'm older
than you.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Bro, No you're not. It's how you you're younger than me.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
You look black? Do on crack?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Don't?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Baby? You look great.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I'm going to be forty one.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
So like this close, okay close. So when we might
have been at the Emerald diald, what are you doing
stand up?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Like?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
When did you start doing stand up?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I wasn't okay, so like I was like twenty year
like like twenty twenty one. Yeah, and then I was
like I wanted to try it, but I was mad,
like shook. But you know, Chris tab and Corey used
to run Emerald all they should have like a Sunday
show there. Chris tab is my brother, well cousin in law,
that is a thing. He's married to my cousin. So
(02:02):
I would kind of follow them around to try to
like get a sense of like what it was.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, and that's how I ended up at the Emerald.
I did like it was bad. I did like three
minutes of not good stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Oh that was that your first show?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
No, my very first show ever ever was Dick Doherty's
Comedy Vault.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Oh yeah, so you did all the Boston Yeah? Did
you ever do Nicks?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
It was kind of run by the mafia, wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Everyone always says, Dude.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
The guys there, they look like sopranos. I remember Shake
trying to shake the guys. I was twenty years old.
I was like, can I just see the show?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
How?
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I can't afford any I can't afford the ticket and
I don't have an idea, says I'm twenty one. And
he's just like, just get inside, and I go, nice
to meet you. I'm Eric. He goes, I don't need
to know your fucking name. I said, get inside, and
I was like, gosh, comedy.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Rough in Boston.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Boston's rough, I remember I did. I went to the
Comedy Connection. What was the one done? The Comedy Connection?
And I did it? Open Mike there once? I did Okay,
I did okay, And then the next time I went there,
and then the first time I went there, the comics
were like, hey, you need a soda a glass of water.
Just go on the back and take a soda gun
and help yourself. Like okay. The second time I went,
I want to go serve myself a glass of water,
(03:13):
and the owner came up to me. He goes, you're
gonna walk right fucking past me in my comedy club
and you're gonna serve yourself water without saying hello to me.
You're not gonna fucking respect me. And I was like, dude,
I'm a child and I just need a little water.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Welcome the Boston.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah, I was like, what the fuck? And that was
like the kickoff to comedy. So I was like, oh god,
it's all mob run, Like my life's gonna be like
I'm gonna get shot. The first impression was no worse.
I was like, I'm gonna get an ice pick to
the neck.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
What a mess up impression for something that's purely silly.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
It's silly, it's crazy. And then and then it wasn't
like too much like that. But yeah, I think when
you start out, you just started out with lunatics.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Oh yeah, yeah, early comedy, you're just you're with the
bottom of the barrel. The bull, every type of One time,
this is no disrespect to the homeless, but one time
I was on stag. I was on stage at an
open mic and I'm like, this is my dream, this
(04:14):
is my life. Every minute matters, you know what I mean.
And I get off stage and a homeless man walked
in from off the street. He's like, can I go?
And they were like sure. I was like what?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
And then did he crush?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
He crushed? He crushed. He was so funny just talking
about being homeless.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Crushed.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
He killed it.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Williams.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
It's like, Yo, what am I doing?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
So when did you move here from Boston?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I moved. I moved to La So it was where
because I was young. I lived in l A first,
so I was young. I tried it. Then I moved
to Atlanta, and I was just doing other stuff for
like seven years.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
What that mean?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Just other stuff? I was working in music. I was
just doing a bunch of other crab chasing pussy, you know, shit, okay, living.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
And getting drunk, club recognized, real.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
You know, living being young and living and figuring myself out,
running away from some stuff, fighting some demons, you know,
just that phase of life. And then I moved back
to Boston. Started for real in Boston at like twenty nine.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Okay, so like it was on and off in twenties
and then you were like, no, I'm gonna do this.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Yeah, twenty nine, you're soul searching. For a little bit,
soul searching. I was doing all types of crap, but no,
and then I just I started like twenty nine, I
like took it real serious. Then I moved to La.
Then I got JFL, then I got SNL and then
that brought me to New York and then I just
stayed because I can't stay in La.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, no, Las, I'm don't with it. For thirteen years,
I like LA. I don't hate LA, but I don't
love LA. I love New York City. I love New
York City, and is it in LA? For thirteen years
and I was just like, I can't fucking than. Nothing
films out here, nothing films out here. All my meetings
are virtual. You can do any writer's room on Zoom,
you can do any meeting on zoom, whatever. And then
(06:10):
everything shoots in Atlanta, New Orleans, Toronto.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And I sure I don't
hate LA. I have friends in La. I'm like when
I'm there for little spurts, I'm like, this is all right, yeah,
but it is like long term, I just get bored.
To be quite honest, I just get very bored.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
It's boring.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
It's boring. I feel like it's more for like when
you're done, like.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Like retired, Yeah, you got your kid.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
You just want like yard space and fresh air all
the time.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah, I'm like what am I? But I feel like
I was like, am I missing something? Is there something
appealing to this place that I'm missing? And then I'm
like no, And then I was like the people that
are into it are a little boring.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
So yeah, no, they're like they're they've settled down, like
we're still out here dogs running the streets.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
You got kids?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
No?
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Do you want kids?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
No?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
No, that's it. I'm not gonna adopt nothing.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
No. I mean like, I'm a lesbian, so it can't
happen on accident. You know, it's like a deliberate decision.
And I've gone this long and I'm like, chilling, You're not.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Grabbing the baster. You're not grabbing the bastern.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Sometimes my fiance talks like she wants to, but I
don't think she really does.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
I mean, she wants to me, she wants to think
so bro, and you don't want to. So she's trying
to She's trying to tiptoe around it, like yeah you
want to, right, and you're like no, And then she's
like but you kind of do right.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Well, maybe maybe that's it.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
What if she's like, I really really read it, then.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I have to and then I have this kid I
hate perfect you know how it works?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
All right? I want to ask you about stand up comedy. Yeah,
what is the worst You've ever bombed? That's what this
podcast is about. It's called bombing worst show You've ever had?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
The worst? Oh, I was touring with Jonathan Gates. He
was the first person to take me out and like
be like you're ready to feature and like do her
old time.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I don't know, Jonathan, Jonathan, paint me a picture.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Jonathan Is he runs the only black room in Boston Slaves.
It's a Wednesday night, like comedy night. It's the only
black night.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
In this city.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
It's at this spot in Roxbury that's known for its
chicken wings. You know. It's like real, like you're in
the hood. And he's an old deaf gym guy. He
used to be on the Deaf Jam Shore. He's like
Martin Lawrence, so he's like that style of a comedian,
which was great for me because I went to the
like white side of comedy first because I was scared
to do it like around people like my actual friend,
(08:30):
Like I didn't you know what I'm saying, Like I
didn't want to do it in my neighborhood. Then I'm bad.
And then I got to catch the bus and the
nigga's like boom. So I would go all the way
to Vermont because I was like, I don't care about
these white people like to see him again, you know
what I'm saying, So just don't work out. I'm still
intact at home, you know what I mean. So I
(08:51):
waited like a good while before I even like ventured
over there. But then it was good because it was
it's like the crowd work, all that other stuff that
I kind of was missing for the other rooms. I
really needed to be like a well rounded comic. And
so he was like the first to pay me like
real money.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
He was the first to take you under his way.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yeah, like heavy real money, like talk to me about
like what I was doing, and taught me a lot
of the habits I think you get in those more
ALTI rooms. He kind of got me like in the middle,
you know what I mean. Like he would be like, yo,
you just killed like this was that was the joke?
Why'd you keep talking?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
And I'm like I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
And he's like, I don't care if it's if you
have fifteen, but you hit that joke at ten. Leave?
What are you hanging out for it? I'm like, you
know what, You're right man, I'm tripping. So like a
little bit of that stuff I learned from him.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
He was an early mentor early mentor.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
So he takes me out of town and at this point,
I'm like riding high. I've like done like a few
like weekends with him. I've killed. I'm like, yeah, I
got this. Got this. We go through some like birthday
party for some like old drug dealer legend of like Cincinnati.
We were like in the weirdest place I don't remember
(10:00):
where we were. It was like a like a freaking
VF W Hall type of situation that they like fully
decked out. Yeah, but they like they made it as
nice as you could possibly make, like an Elks Lodge situation.
Everybody was like dressed to the nines but like older,
you know. And it was pat and I got out
(10:23):
and my first joke was about like a strap them
on or something like. It was something about not feeling
it or some some strap on joke. And they're just
staring at me like crickets. They giving me nothing black room,
and they're just like, no, that first joke doesn't work.
(10:43):
But it's like, just like strap on joke has been
killing you know. I've been like strap on my strap
and people be like, you know what I mean, but
this is just like we not, we are not interested
in your little gay tails. So at that point it's
like I think it.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Was a homophobic response or what.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I think they just didn't care.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I think if I would have maybe packaged it some
other way, they could have been with it. I didn't
feel anti me as much as it was like why
you talking to us about strap right?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Right?
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Were you the first to go up you? Were you
opening up the room or was there somebody on before you?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
It was one person all before me, You're not And
I was right before Jonathan, and I just like dig
in because I don't know what else to do this
is the stuff I have.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
It's like if the ship that always kills like it's crickets,
then you're like and all.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I had at that point was like I was doing
this whole chunk about like gay sex, so like it
just goes from there to eat and pussy. It just
it just just because that's all I had, and I
just I just stood in it. And they never they
never laughed, they never booed me, but they eventually stopped
paying attention to me, which I think is worse. Yeah,
(11:57):
they just started like having their own commerce and like
doing their own thing, like when whenever it's this overworld
check back in. And then I got off and like
the dude who was hosting was like a dude that
kind of like was working the event, but he wasn't
like a comic, but he was like, you know, it
was one of those type of nights like j T
go host and this's gonna happen. So he comes up
(12:19):
and he's like, you know that young lady tried and
like gives this whole speech about how they need to
be better as like a like.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Which is worse worse.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
It's like when kids make fun of you and then
the principal stands you in front of the class. They're like,
don't even do that. Her dad just died, you know.
It's like that's like crappy energy. And that was probably
the worst. And then the next day Jonathan took me
off to breakfast and he was like, so, what the
fuck happened? I was like, man, I don't know. He
(12:51):
was like, what do you think happened? And then we
had like it was cool because I just talked about
like what I think when.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Were you in agony? Were emotional? I was pretty yeah,
I was pretty love it wakes you up.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I was pretty low. Yeah, I was pretty low.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
You have ten good shows in a row, you get
one bad, and it hangs over you.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Till you shake it because you I mean, I think
you feel like comedy is a bit like you're lucky
to be able to do it, and you feel a
little bit like it's not in your control, Like it's
this weird mystic thing that you're like wielding. So when
you have like a bad show, it's like an omen
over you. It's like, oh I lost it? Am I
ever gonna give you? To get it bad?
Speaker 1 (13:27):
You feel like your magical power.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Is just left you yeah, and it's like it hangs
on you to you like have a good show, a.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Little bit torture. Why do we do it?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
I don't know, because we've watched all those like dumb
movies that like mess your head up. I think it's
really like media, except like what I was going to.
There's always these movies where like someone's like the greatest
kicker or baseball player, and then it's like all of
a sudden, they have like one bad kick and then
they're just I can't it's lose their whole life, you know,
(13:58):
with a.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Godre with ariddre shit.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
One time I did Wendy Williams had a show when
I lived here in my early twenties in New York.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
She had a show.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
She had a comedy show to Laugh Factory on I
don't think it's there anymore. It's like on eighth and
forty second Street. It was there back in the day.
It's like early two thousands, and Capone hosted I don't
know if you know who Copone is all black room
and I was like probably like two years into comedy
and I only played like alt rooms up until this
(14:35):
this particular night. And oh, the guy that booked me,
I did like really high energy stuff. So he's like,
and he saw me at the improv or something, so
he's like, go up and just do do your high
energy stuff. I was like, okay, and I'm watching all
the comics. I was like, I don't know if I'm right,
if I'm the right flavor. I think I think people
want less death metal and more R and B at
(14:58):
this particular you and uh and I get on stage
and the first joke out of my mouth, I try
to make fun of the three women in the front audience.
They look like SWV, and I go s W. I
wanted to go s WV is here, and I messed
up the letters. I was like SWP is here and
people were like what and then and then and then
that was it. It was like it was over. And
(15:20):
they were like what, like the whole fifteen hundred was
a big theater. What? And then and then I was like, anyway,
I'm from Florida. They were like, And I got through
my first joke and I looked over at Wendy Williams
and she gave me like, you're doing okay. I mean
you're not doing okay, but like it's it's gonna be
okay kind of look. And then I was like all right,
and I got off stage and I had somebody I
(15:40):
like begged this other comedian to film it and he
didn't want to, and like then I got off.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Bad energy all around it.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
My god, I felt so horrible. Then Capone went on
stage after me and he's like, I don't know who
that dude was, but he'll never come back here again.
And the crowd was like I saw fuck e. Like
thousands of people like left, and he ripped into me
(16:08):
and he was like, like, did my set like a
bad version of it? He was like that guy was
talking about he did like five minute riff which is
longer than I was on stage, about how horrible I was,
and everyone was like like high five and it was
gut wrenching. I was just sitting in the back, like
(16:28):
you know with Vietnam chopper sound effects of my like,
but that ship traumatized me, but it made me like
the man I am.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Once you get through it, you know you can do
it forever.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Once you get through that, you know that like you've
been to like the bottom, you've been to the fucking
ninth circle of hell. What's the worst you've seen somebody
else bomb? Is there any like fights you've ever seen
in a comedy club or like just a standing boovation.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Just I'm like, wow, there's so many.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah, it's hard. It's like naming your favorite album.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
And every bomb you see makes you feel like spectacular.
They're all so funny. They're all so funny like watching them.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Have you ever seen like a fight or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
I've definitely seen some comedy fights, mostly between comedians over
like stage time and wearing goofy stuff. Oh ship. I
was at the store. I was just a young young
comic hanging out and Bob Sumner had a night there.
It was a black comedy night, and there was a
(17:38):
gentleman on stage. He did he did, he did his routine,
had a catchphrase he was yeah, but it was it
was a repeated catchphrase, and he had issues with this
other comic and this comic was They had gotten into
it already. This had been like documented, they had gotten.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
To it outside of existing beef.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Yeah, they had gotten to it side of the laugh factory,
and like rumors were swirling. It was over one of
the comics wives or something. I don't know, but this
comic was supposed to be like incarcerated.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Oh shit.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
So the comic who was on stage had like put
a restraining order out against ship danger as far as
I know, right, as far as I know, I don't know.
I don't know if I have all effects right, but
this is what I heard, was like a restraining order whatever.
So the only reason this comic was in l A
at the time was because this other comic was supposed
to be somewhere where he could not get miss him.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Mister A. Yeah, because mister A had the Hamburger catchphrase yep.
And mister B had the the was a guy that
was violent and like, yeah it was bad news yep. Okay,
And mister A had a restraining order against mister B. Yeah,
because it was good because they had prior beef.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yes. And I don't want to say mister B was
bad news because he he is and was not. He's
just a real nigga.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
His name was just a B. Now you can say
talk any shit you want to be.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Just stands all what he what he's saying, what he means,
you know what I mean. So I don't want to
say he's a bad dude. He just he's just a
real nigga. If me tell you don't don't cross you
cross them and let you know this consequences.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Oh, so mister A catchphrase is there because he thinks
mister B and somewhere with mister B. Can I access him? Okay,
mid set.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Why does mister B have it out for mister A.
What is their prior beef?
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Thing is over mister B's wife. Mister A kept trying
to pursue or or something with mister B's wife. Mister
betty clear.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Crazy, that's crazy. I thought it was like, oh, he's
stole a joke or something. No, no, like you're trying
to fuck dude's wife.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
He's like, cut that out. It's not cool to be
that you acted this way this day was like trying
to fuck you and.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
It's about the guy's wife.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yeah, it kind of turns off.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Man.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
That's crazy as.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Far as I know. Again, oh you can't guy's wife.
It's like, so where there watching mister A catchphrase? He's like,
mid catchphrase is packed in there, and mister B comes
(20:11):
bursting in to the room holding the restraining or the
paperwork because he's like, you bitch ass nigga, you thought
this she was gonna keep me for sucking you up.
You thought I was. You thought I was locked up, nigga,
I'm not locked up. In the middle of the middle
of the show, we're like, oh, he walks up to
(20:33):
the stage.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Did you think it was like a sketch at first?
Like this is It's like, this.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Is the real. So he walks up to the stage,
she picks up a chair and they just start fighting.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
It was like Will Smith Chris Rock, but to the
to the tenth.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Yes, tons of fighting, like fighting, brawling, fighting. Mister mister
A Trace is not from California. Mister v is from
l A and has the type of ties niggas from
l A have.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
So he had his boys there too.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
All these jump up, start being this man up and
where were you were you in the crowd? We were
like like like not at the top of that comedy
but like at the bottom, but at the back of
the bottom store, at.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
The at the.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
At the main room at the comedy store, in the
back a little bar show or something.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
So he beating this man up to stuff he dude.
The dude was still trying to when he first jumped up,
so he jumped he hit him with the chair and
the dude it was like wowd but it wasn't like
knock him out and then dudes like what's your problem?
Like it was like this is not the time to
still be talking into the microphone, mister everything.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Like I was trying to say.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Like, like, what's what's wrong with you? Man? It's like
bur bro, everything's over. And it could have been the
hit first been the chair, Like you know what I'm saying.
It could have been the hit first in the chair,
but I've chair and I remember hit. The order could
have been versus had to be at least five years
ago they broke it up.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Is there video footage of this?
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Someone has it.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
There's got to be.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
There. People will hear this story and exactly who I
am talking about.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
So it's a famous night, infamous.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
It's like it's an infamous Yes, it's like if you
were there, it was like it was.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
It was like a legendary now and it put.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Mister B in a category of he is not one
to be fucked with because he will beat your ass.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
And so he hits he hits chair, beat him up.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
They finally pulled each other apart. They take mister be
completely out the venue, Bob Sumner that gets on the
stage and begins to basically beray us as black people,
like why we can't we have ship? He's just trying
to do something nice?
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Was the producer showed.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
He lectured.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Like he was like Morgan Freeman at the Bad High School.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. Coach Carter, what is
your greatest man? So yeah, man, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
You went from being like, oh, I don't have a
I don't have a crazy story about saying somebody Bob
to like the craziest story I've ever heard take place
in a comedy cloth And then did other people go on?
Or was the show that was a rat?
Speaker 3 (23:51):
That was a rat? Bob got up, he screamed at us, Oh,
very very emotional, lean on me speaks, And then it
was like.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
We gotta dig up that footage.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
With a recondre with a recdre.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
What is the most wasted you've ever been on stage?
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Man, have you ever been like or like drunk?
Speaker 3 (24:29):
That is like now I can remember?
Speaker 1 (24:31):
That was okay on stage?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
I was on shrooms.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah, how'd that go?
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Sometimes it goes great.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I did a shrooms show show. It was kind of
one of the best sets I've ever had, and I
improvised like crazy, yes, like I need to write this down.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Sometimes it's so lucid that you can like get it
off and like I won't do it like if it's serious,
Like but if it's like a mic and I'm just
like let me play and try to find stuff or whatever,
or like a light show. But this is only because
I did do it when it was serious and it
was not good.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
I was on shrooms and on like a little micro
dose or like a lot, or I was on like.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
A I was on a little shrewn weed combo, like
a little micro dos or shroom a little edible sweet spot,
and I was taping something. So I had agreed to
do this, like taping for a Nerd melt. It was
like Nerd, but it wasn't like the show. Like it
wasn't like Amal's show. It was like just some like
(25:32):
thing they were doing like online.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
It was like a Comedy Central show.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
No, it wasn't That's what I'm saying. It wasn't the
It wasn't that one. I've done that one. But this
was like something where they were like streaming it online
or putting it online for like NERD melt something whatever
it was, and I was like, yeah, sure one night
when I was there, like whatever. So also I'm thinking
this isn't a big deal, Like I don't know, Yeah,
it's just something some online thing they're doing. Like I'm
(25:56):
like really minimizing it in my brain, which is on.
And then I show up and they got like real cameras.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
It's like a.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Real situation, and I'm like, oh ship, They're like we're
only like the set was different, the whole thing was.
And I always forget when I'm in LA, like anyone
can make anything of true production there kind of easily.
(26:24):
So when people just be like, oh, it's chill, you
always got to think it might be something because because
they have access to just turn it up like that.
So I'm already like shipping bricks because I'm like I
shouldn't have done what I did, you know, because this
is a lot of stimulation that I was not expectings.
I was getting very nervous. It's getting very nervous. But
(26:47):
I get up and I'm like just breathe through it
and like do what the fuck you gotta do, and
I'm good. I'm good. I'm going and I'm like I
am fine, I got this ship, and then I just
forget everything. No, yeah, like the whole. Nope, yeah, the whole.
I just I get to a place and I just stop,
and I'm like and I'm standing there for it. I'm high.
(27:11):
So it felt like fucking twenty minutes, but it probably
had to be like at least three minutes, which is
a long time. And I'm like, I really don't know
what I was about to say at this like recording,
I'm like, yo.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
How much what minute were you at that point? Why?
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Six?
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
And what were you supposed to do? Like fifteen or so?
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Yeah, like fifteen minute six. I was like six minutes
in and I was just exactly and it was like
I was too high to give it, you know what
I mean, Like I was too hod to just be
like pop into something else and just ride that wave.
Because I was yelling at myself in my head like
how could you forget? Why are you? Like you know,
I'm having that, Like how could you let this have it?
(27:54):
You don't deserve anything, so you're just dear in the
head like I was deare full deer in the headlights,
like yo, oh ship, Like I really don't know what
I'm gonna say, and then somehow I picked it up.
But I it was like I had to acknowledge it,
(28:15):
you know what I mean, Like it went on long
enough where I had to be like, I have made
an error.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yeah, yeah you should. You could have just gone listen, guys.
I got really high. I didn't know you guys are
gonna have real cameras.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeah, I coulda just went, That's what I'm saying. I
just couldn't even but I like, I was like, fuck,
I don't know, man, and so I just kind of
like picked up kept going. But then because I was high,
some fire shit happened and I remembered, oh shit, and
then I was I picked the joke back up close
to the end and it's still tied into something else.
(28:47):
And then I was like yeah and that and that
was my made off moment. I was like, I'm fucking underfeared.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
So you came up with your dismount you got laughs.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
And yeah, I got laughs and people were like and
she ripped Ever, she's a fucking and that's that's what
started the monster that I am. Yeah, that was my
mate off moment. Like I was watching the Bernie Mayoff
things and then I was like, oh, he got away
with that one thing, and then he was running it's
all about.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
He got away with one line. And then he was like,
fuck it, I'm going in yep. Oh, I want to
tell you a story about me bombing, and then I
want to ask a couple of questions. One time, I uh.
It was season four of The Eric Andre Show and
I was doing a tour to promote the show. So
I do like, it's not a stand up tour. It's
(29:36):
like the live version of the talk show where I
like jump out on stage and I break a ton
of stuff and I interview people from the audience, and
I'll interview like a celebrity guest in every tournament or whatever.
It'll be like the local pawnshop guy from some reality
show if I'm like in Des Moines or something. So
it was like season four and I would do a
tour with Byron Bowers. So he was on Byron was
on stage warming up the crowd. Then he went ladies
(29:58):
and gentlemen, it's the Eric Andrey Show. Is the first show.
The tours in Vancouver, Columbia, British Columbia, Canada. We're in Vancouver.
Tons of kids in the audience Byron Goes, Ladies and Gentlemen,
the You're Country Show. I run out from backstage under
the stage. I burst through my desk. I started peeing
up the desk. I jump into the crowd, CrowdSurf and
(30:18):
usually the crowd just like whatever CrowdSurf around. I go
back to the stage.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I jump in the crowd, I'm like, you know, they're
like all holding me up with their hands. My back
is like to their hands or whatever. Then I feel
like one kid underneath me try to stick all four
fingers up my butt crack, just shoving my butt crack.
Then another kid grabs my dick and balls as hard
as he can, and then like another kid licks his
(30:44):
sucks on his finger and gives me a wet willie.
And then another kid grabbed a hot dog off the
ground and shoved it in the back.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
And it was crazy.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
I was like, and I started doing like street karate,
and some kids form and started drawing and quartering my
limbs in different directions.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Yeah, they were like tearing me alive in like a
medieval assault. It was crazy. So I was like and
then finally like chicken punching of them to like get
down on the ground and this other kid kept like
coming at me with like giving me a wet willie
and like grabbing, grabbing me, and I just went, thank you.
The stomach is hard to say, Eric.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
That's when you gotta turn black and start beating these
white kids' asses.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
I punched them. I was like primal rage. I was
just like, this is god, dude. I punched him in
the stomach as hard as I could, and he went oh.
Then he looked up at me and he went yeah,
like he loved it. And then I crawled back to
the stage and I was like, I'll never a crowd.
Certain that was the first thirty seconds of the first
(31:51):
show of my.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Tour, Like I gotta chase my whole I've been finding
some singa I gotta.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
This is Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
It was crazy, and that's kind of what Hammil said.
Hannil was like, and I was like, you created this
life for yourself.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
I was just thinking, like, that's what you'll ask.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
He said, you created this son.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Any black person's gonna be like that's to get a
playing the white people games.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Well, Sam Jay, it has been an absolute pleasure. Thank you,
thanks for coming in. Thanks appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
With every condre.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
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