April 30, 2025 • 49 mins
Eric is back in the land of NYC with Saturday Night Live's Devon Walker to chat about having to go up after a blunt rolling contest, being politely asked by a woman to leave the stage, and more. Open conversations about the craziness of Saturday Night Live and how each generation handled each other and the show itself. Plus, this podcast ain't a podcast without a little sh*t talking. Devon also tells us a time he tried to take a nice R&R trip down to Miami and it did not go according to plan.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What Up. It's Eric Andre and this is Bombing, the
podcast where I talk to comedians, artists, and other interesting
people about the worst bombs of their careers, mega failures
in life, the Big do Doo. On today's episode, I
talked to Saturday Night Live cast member Devin Walker about
the parts of Texas we like, queue card Chaos plus
Divorced Parents. Be sure to check out devon zoo podcast
(00:22):
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
Enjoy Bombing with Eric Andrey.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
We're here with Devin Walker, Ladies and Gently from Saturday
Lives Away from regionally Boston, Texas. Austin, Texas, the indie
movie capital of the world. I don't know what is
it famous for? Sounding them barbecue barbecue Aaron Franklin, south
By Southwest, Matthew McConaughey. No, he's from a Galveston or something.
(00:58):
He's from Waco.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
He's from like Tyler, like Long He's from East Texas,
but he went to school in Austin and now he's.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Like always from like a real hero role town.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Right, He's from the type of Texas that people think
of when they think about Texas.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Like he's East Texas.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yes, the kind of ship exactly he's from, like that
realm of Texas and East Texas is exactly the part
of Texas that people imagine Texas to be.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
The worst shows of my entire life were all in East,
almost all East.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I'm from Texas, and I would never do I'm never
going east of Houston.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
That's as far east. I think that's a good Yeah, yeah,
there's just nothing familiar with that. I stand by that
because Houston has great cage and great Vietnamese food at least,
and they're pretty good chosen a good city. I've had
the worst shows of my life in Dallas, and Port
Arthur is probably one of the worst shows that I had.
I would have loved to have been at that show
for what I know about twenty three years old, for
(01:52):
what I know.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
About you and what I know about Port Arthur, I
would have loved to see how those things. I like UGK,
I mean, of course you GK, Janis Joplin okay, mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I know more about UGK than Jennis Child. And the
only thing I like out of East East Texas is UGK.
That's fair. Andrews Meeks was on the show. He's also
from East Texas shout out. Does Houston counts East Texas? Uh?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
No, Houston is Houston. You know what I'm saying, kind
of like how Texas doesn't count.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
I like Matthew mcconnaey and Woody Harrelson. They're from the
same town. Is that true? Yeah, they might have the
same dad. Yes, I did. Can't believe and can't believe it.
I could kind of see it. Yes, I'm going with
West Sexes. What's that? You Ever been to Al Paso? Oh? Yeah,
I did, not acid, but I did two c I
(02:37):
or to I did some weird psychedelic with Byron Bauers
and we went to this and we're the only ones tripping.
And we went to this uh barbecue restaurant in El Paso,
and everyone looked like machete like Danny Chreho and all
their friends were drunk. No one else were tripping, And
it was a very very challenging psychedelic experience. That sounds
like it was not cool. No, it's a bit of
(02:58):
a bomb. That sounds crazy. Yeah, how's how's the show?
That wasn't even a show. We were driving from that
was our day off on tour, so we were it
was almost ten years ago. I think it was like
we had a show in San Diego, then the next
show was in Dallas or something, so we had to drive.
We had to stop at l Passa because our bus
(03:19):
driver wasn't allowed to drive, you know, he's a truck driver.
Bus Ever, we kept drivers around hours. There's a certain
amount of like yeah, so it was like our hiatus night.
So that's why it's a good time. That's a good
place to spend it. It was cool. I always done
one day there, but Marfa, I'd ever done to either
Martha or Marfa.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
That's a good place to go, take some drugs and
enjoy yourself. That's really like that part of Texas because
it's really nothing in Marfa. It's like one bar and
like one restaurant, Like there's really nothing out there that's
like really where like the skies are gorgeous in the
way that like you're like, oh, I like these country
songs make sense to me now.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
So when did you come? Did you? Were you doing
stand up and based out of Awesome when you got us? No, no,
no no.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I had moved to New York, so like I started
and an improv I was just a straight standup guy.
I never did improv. I don't know if I'm a
good enough like team player to do improv.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
You gotta be a team player, right, that's what you're thinking,
That's what you es. And L is less so like
one big team and it's more like a bunch of
little teams together. I heard much about Jen one Boomer
SNL cast members. I only hear rough stuff about Steve Martin,
dan Aykroyd, Oh yeah, Chevy Chase. I heard horrendous stuff
(04:35):
of he's a character, and I heard Bill Murray's kind
of fucking hot and cold.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I haven't spent time around a lot of those. I
met some of them at the fifty. I met Garrett Morris,
who was cool as he's cool. He was really and
he was cool as fuck. I really fuck with Garrett Morris,
but like that, it never surprises me when people in
this from the seventies where he used to just be
allowed to be a worse person.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
You know what I'm saying that it.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Used to be chill, You used to be able to
be a piece of shit. Now you kind of got
to be I just.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Wish I grew up, you know, I grew up watching
Ghostbusters and shit. I wish those guys were cool as fuck.
I'm just hearing secondhand. Yeah, they might be. I have
not spent time with any of those folks. I hope
they're cool. I hope they're cool too. At least we
got Garrett Morris. At least Wait, you started doing stand
up and yeah, I was in Austin. In Austin, you
moved to New York, and then that's when you auditioned
for Yes, Now.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
I moved to New York in eighteen and then twenty
twenty two I auditioned and got the show.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Were you fucking pumped or were you terrified? Both? Yeah? Yeah,
it was both. I'd never done sketch comedy before. Yeah,
you know what I q cards, which is seems like
a nightmare, which is also a whole new, brand new thing.
It's like I always think I would drink to the
point of being drunk every before every show. Did you
ever host the show? Absolutely? You have to. Any comic
(05:46):
that says they wanted it is lying. You have to.
I grew up on it. I grew up at Chris Farley.
I don't exist without Chris Farley. Yeah, you know what
I mean. He's like so part of my DNA and
like as I was coming of it. He died when
I was twelve, but like when I was like nine, ten, eleven, twelve,
I only watched his his sketches and his movies like
(06:08):
I would. I think that generation is cool of SNL
like the gen xers, like Adam Sandler is the nicest guy.
To be fair, I've never met any of the Boomer snlers. Yeah,
but I met the gen Xer snls and there have
been nothing but sweet. But I think they were picked
on a ship ton. But I think Boomer I think
(06:29):
it was friction because they were traumatized by basically their
their dads, their comedy dads. I think they're much nicer
to the younger generation. I think there's something to it.
I've met way more of those guys.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I met Sandler, I've met I just met Tim Meadows,
which was cool.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
The coolest guy I just met. Those guys are cool.
He was cool as all that gen Yeah, I wish
I could have met and they went through because they
went through hell too, you know they were I hear
horror stories from Yeah. That was also that I shouldn't talk
shit about your job so openly, but yeah, you can.
You really are allowed to talk shit about my job.
I got it, I got it. Chill, but you can
(07:08):
go you say all the stuff you more Man Harry Sheer,
who voices half the Simpsons characters. Yeah, who is on SNL.
For five seconds he said, I think he's the one
who goes. Every time I walked into thirty Rock to work,
I would feel like death, he goes. I really felt
like that building is cursed, and I'm to this day
(07:31):
still traumatized.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
It's such an incubator for tap, Like, there are so
many talented people there, and there are some people who
crack the code on like how to do that thing,
and there are some people who never quite because it's
obviously like you know, being funny as part of it,
and then there's all this other stuff that you learned
about that is in addition to like being funny and
like writing a good sketcher, like coming up with a
(07:53):
good character. There's all these other little things that you
have to figure out. Yeah, and some people are better
that than others. I guarantee you.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
There's like, I mean, how many people like Conan was
there for a couple of years and like yeah, and
that like wasn't really his thing. I feel like there's
so many people who we.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Go on to see Thrive and do all this other
stuff who were at the show and they're just like, yeah,
I couldn't fucking I couldn't figure it out.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Zach Alvin Aks, I think he's got fired like after
like two weeks or something. Oh, I forgot about that.
You got fired like in record timing. I think he
was like one of the quickest firings for that way.
I actually be Smooth was in the writer's room too.
Maybe Smooth was the writer for like two or three years,
did better than Zach, but something like that. You know
(08:35):
some of these I mean, Jimmy's smooth and Zach's funny,
only two of the funniest people Like you laugh before
they even say a word, just their face. You're like
laughing before they begin. Yeah, and uh, it's just like that.
I feel like there's a there's like a hundred different
people like that who like they came to the Show's
got to be a better system. It doesn't have to
be that painful. I will say, though. You know, what
(08:56):
I've heard people talk about about the job is like
I've heard them.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Describe it as like it's like running with like a
weight vest on where it's like as soon as you
leave and go do something else, you're just.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Like, oh, that's true. Yeah, it is easy because you
went through the fuckingh an redemption sewer exactly. You made anything. Okay,
So tell me about some of your bombs, tell me
about some of your work shows. Yeah, but you got
a degree in psychology and a master's an organizational leadership.
(09:29):
We got an audible gasp over there, smarty pants, what's
going on here? I guess where'd you go? You went
to UT. I went to Texas State, which is like
it's like it's like a half hour from UT. It's
money go to UT. Well, I didn't work hard enough
in high School's hard to get into.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
It's like you have to be in the top ten
percent of your graduating class.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah to get into UTS like a huge school, and
they're just like.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
It is a huge school, but it's like all the
top ten percent kids, and then if you're not in.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I didn't know that. I thought it was like a
hundred billion kids went to that school and the right, Hey.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Come on, that's the school the school I went to.
That's that's at school. It's a little smaller than ut
but it literally is hairs from Texas. No, none of
my family's from Texas.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Where they're from.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
My mom's from Virginia and my dad's from p A.
My that's from Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Oh ship did you end
up on Texas?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
It was My parents were in the military and that
was the first job that my dad got was in Austin.
And so your parents kill anybody, and that she would
be so fly would be awesome. Got it? Killed children
in Vietnam, Dude, I don't get my dad's my dad's seventy.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
But no, he was like he would have been like
desert storm, like he was like in that era.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Okay, so killed children just make created the genocide and
irack fucking Dick Cheney's oil. Hey man, Nah, I know
no kills at least as far as I know. I
hope I find think he kills him. I didn't tell you.
That would be kind of fly. I don't think so.
I don't think my dad has his PTSD. No, he
wasn't in combat. He was a p STDs. Does he
have any STDs? Bro? That would be kind of fly.
(11:18):
They're still married. No, my parents was put up for
how long were they together? My parents were to go
for like uh well like fifteen sixteen, No, no, seventeen,
like seventeen or eighteen years because they gave it a shot.
They gave it a shot. Oh it wasn't a quick
gave it a shot. That's that sput up when I
was in high school. Two decades is enough. They gave
you know what I'm saying, I really got to grow
(11:39):
up in the years you're supposed to have. Like they
got every bit of juice out of that relationship. They
tried it, and you know, are your parents. My dad's dead.
But they were married for twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yea.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Then they were divorced for twenty five years. But they
split up when I was twelve, which is that's absolute
worst time. I wish my dad just waited like four
more more years for me. If I was fifteen sixteen,
I would have handled it more. But twelve, you're coming
of age, you're passing puberty, you're like finding yourself and
your POV. Like it's a tough. And I was blindsided
about it too, because they didn't they didn't fight at all.
(12:11):
He just slowly dripped situation. Yeah, yeah, them telling me
and I was like, oh, like I thought y'all, like
I knew y'all had like some problems, but I didn't know.
It was like you got now somebody got to move
out the house. I didn't even understand it. When they
first told me my I was like, hey, I'm gonna
live somewhere else for a little bit. And I was like,
I guess he's working nights. Like I don't know what
he was talking about. He got a special pressure be
(12:32):
like are you okay? Are you okay? And I was
like I'm okay until you asked me if I'm okay
twenty times right and then and then just movers came
like a few weeks later, started moving shit out of
the house. I go, oh, wait, are you guys getting
a divorce? And they were like yeah, And I burst
into tears. That give you that informs horrible parenting. I
was horrible parenting. They didn't tell me shit.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
My parents did a thing where I've told this on
another podcast. My parents did a thing where my mom
moved out the house, moved out the house, and my
dad stayed in the house and my siblings, uh yeah,
I have three, but at that point it was just
me and my little sister still in the house, and
my mom moved out the house. When I had a
I had like a football game scrimmage. Literally, I like
(13:14):
left during the games during.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
The guy scrimmage and like San Antonio, she literally did.
I mean, they told me they were gonna do it,
but like literally I left, went played the game, came
back from San Antonio. Where's mama at? Oh? Well? Literally?
Literally fucking Okay, we had a similar situation our parents.
She moved to a different town, not immediately, she moved
(13:37):
to like an apartment across town, and then she lived
over there until I got to college, and then she
moved to another city. Okay, how old are you when this?
I was sixteen when they split it. I wish my dad.
The thing is, my dad met my stepmom, so he
had he had to call it quits because he didn't
want to have an affair. Yeah, and he just had
not They had nothing in common, so he he would
(14:01):
have waited if he could, maybe, but he didn't want
to cheat on my mom. He was just like, well,
I'm not in love with the current woman. That's kind
of sweet, yeah, kind of insane. They were like my
parents were like roommates. They were like, had nothing in common.
They gave it twenty five fucking years. They give it
a shot, and they really had nothing in common to
begin with.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
I haven't done anything for twenty five years. I know
in my life that you know what I'm saying. So
I haven't worked out for like twenty five days straight
in my life. They gave it twenty five years of love.
That's that's all you can really hope. They had two
kids and two grand kids.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
They give it. They fucking you know, all right, telling
me your words bombs, I mean, stand up wise.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
The bomb that really stands out to me was it
was around here this before weed was really popping. Is
before like weed was really like legal in New York?
Is weed fully legal? I don't really know. It's like
I can fully legal in LA. But they want to
come here.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
You go to a weed store and they're like, we
can't sell weed yet, and you're like, what do you
mean exactly? And then you go to a store that's
just like, oh, we sell cool T shirts. And then
you go in the back and they have like tons
of weed. You're like, are you allowed to do this?
Like I don't know, and they'll be exactly and I'll
go to a weed store and I'll like, I'll like
pick up some weed, and they'll be like, here's the weed.
They'll be like, all right, so we have to run
(15:18):
your card as if this is an ATM. Yeah. Yeah,
we can only dollars at a time, and then we
got to split it into a different transaction. I'm like,
so this is this. Are we supposed to do this
or not? I really can't tell. I don't think you
get to figured out.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
I continue to buy weed though, but yeah, I this
was before weed was as like openly out in the
open as it is now. This before the pandemic, and
it was at this like weed speakeasy. It was at
this like speakeasy and I walk in.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
By the way. We probably had fifty people on this show,
but now I would say three or four are like
weed speakeasy shows are the worst I've ever bumped. That's
that's one of my worst problems. It's terrifying. It's really better.
I'm horrible with weed. Yeah, everybody's so stoned at those shows,
and they're like catatonic. You're in like a ketamine fucking
(16:08):
Robotest're like coma toast.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
And also the one that I did was it was
an all black room. It was all it was all black,
little crowd. So it's like, which can be like you
just have to approach them different. It's a different it's
just got better get that first joke exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
They got it. They gotta like you sent. If they're
not into you off rip, then you're kind of in trouble.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
But it's also like in addition to like it's a
little bit different for like doing an all black room.
Also like black people is naturally kind of just like
being too cool for school anyway, you know what I'm saying.
So this show, this was it was like around midtown.
It was like somewhere around like where we're at right now,
Like it was in this zone. So this is like
a speakeasy, stoner black room. Yes, okay, And and you're
(16:50):
what number on are you fourth on the lineup? Is
there a bunch of comics or just you or what? No,
it's several comics. Let's say let's say it was five comics.
I'm like second, and before they like maybe did the
host and then one other set and then they were like,
all right, it's time for.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
The blunt rolling competition.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
And then they literally had like two women come out
and like, so you could roll the best blunt the
fastest before this is right, this immediate, immediately before I go.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
They should have just let those women roll blunts the
rest of the night. That was much more exciting than
what I had. Yes, they should have been like that.
You don't go back to stand up comedy after that.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
You should not do You should never interrupt stand up
comedy and then bring it back again because.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Usually what the fucking blood roller got it. That was
like the wet Teacher contest, the weed You're like, what's
going to weed industry? It's I was like, that was exciting.
I was like, this is awesome. And then the host
literally like they're they're like, congratulations to like dad d
like she won the blunt rolling competition. Then the host
just come back up, who's like, hey, congratulations to her.
And next up we got Devin Walker. Yeah, yeah, I
(17:54):
come up. Now, they're not a great intro. He's he's
not like you know from comedy, like, huh, yeah, it
was up Devin Walker. Yeah, bring up Devin Walker please.
Literally people are like huh exactly. People, It's like there's
a haze in the air. There's a haze in the air.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Everybody's like it's literally like pipes and bongs and blunts
and joy like. People are sparking up. People are like
very laid back. It's also like it's like it's like
bean bags.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
That's high. That's what I'm saying. Everybody's too the Yeah,
nobody's it's just like, that's not the time for me
to like point out my little observations, like that's not
the moment for that. So you get on stage. I
get on stage and I try to make a little
joke about the room about the blunt rolling competition. That's
(18:45):
what I'm saying. You if you swing and miss that
first time, it's already people being like, I don't like
if the second one doesn't does And so it's like, yeah,
I do. I'd say something like, oh man, look at
the something. It was stupid and bad. Whatever. You're like,
oh man, I'm performing after the blow rolling competition, hope
(19:06):
you all ready for this, And they were like crickets.
Whatever I said, it was absolute silence. Yeah, I uh,
And you're like gold And I'm like and I'm like, okay,
all right, all right, all right, were you high? No? No, no,
I can't. I can't get high and do stand up.
I've done it, and it's a horrible, horrible chance.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
It's not my I'm not I'm not a huge we guy.
Just like in general, I like, I like smoking weed
by myself. Yeah before better that's I can do one puff.
That's the only way I ever's for me. It makes
me depressed, you know what I mean, weird?
Speaker 1 (19:39):
You just got a tennis mall. Yeah, you know. I
took my dog to dog park and I was like,
I don't want to tennis ball, and I forgot to
play them. Well you started playing with the other dogs.
I was like, I don't need Yeah, I got you.
You don't interaction. But anyway, uh, I'm the first thing bombs.
So you're getting a secondhand high, probably from the weedy. Yeah,
(20:02):
I'm just like not in my element.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
They then like I tried another joke that was like
maybe a newer thing that like also is getting nothing
at this point. You know when you really get desperate,
when you're like five, you're like five minutes in, four
minutes in, and you got nothing going on, and you're like, okay,
well now I got to bring out the old ship.
Now I got to bring out the jokes that like
always well I got to dig in my pocket, yeah
and really try something, but those don't work. I tried,
(20:28):
like I tried two or three of those got like
a like if normally let's say normally those jokes got
like an eight, they got like a two.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
It was that was the best ship that I had
in twenty nineteen. That got a two. And literally after
the second, that's now four jokes and maybe total, I've
gotten like nine laughs. Like it's really but like nine
laps from like nine different people individual, yeah, like nine
individual laughs.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
And so there was all literally at this point like
it's going. It's going so bad that they could probably
start to see the panic on my face.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
And literally sweats building up. It felt like that.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
It felt like I was like really like just be
like like that's how it felt like. It was paying
out of my face. And literally there's this woman. I'll
never forget her. She raised her hand in the back.
She raised her hand, She raised her hand like it
was a Q and A And at this point I
got nothing else to lose.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I was like, hey, yeah, yes, yes, man, what's what's
going on? What do you want to ask? And she goes, baby,
how much time you got lost? She's like, let's wrap
this baby, come on now, we see what's going on.
We see it to the table. You did your best,
it's not really cooking, lizz Are you almost done? And
(21:48):
it it really was like in most other situations you'd
be you'd be like, hey, this is my time, like
I'm performing, mom, And she wasn't like the fuck you
you sung, was like hey, right now, it's like that's
what's going on. We we we we can all see it.
We see you lost to the blunt rolling competition in
(22:08):
a pretty substantial way, Like that brought a lot more
entertainment to the crowd than what you're doing right now.
So like, why don't you go ahead? And the whole
thing should have been blunt rolling competition and just different
weed hot dog. Absolutely that should be.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Like yeah, it should it should be that, or just
like have some niggas come play jazz, just like you
just spoke me when being quiet, listen to somebody plays
saxophone on the base, Like that's what it should have been.
I could have I really couldn't be mad at that
woman because she was so right in that moment.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
It was it was time for me to leave. It
was time for me to go, and I maybe did
one more thing to to to moderate to no reaction,
and then I got off and it was one of
those bombs where it's like I didn't even want to
see the other comedian. You can't look away. It was
really like I was like I it was. There was
(23:02):
a little green room like off to the side of
where the stage was. I literally I had a backpack.
I literally grabbed my backpack. Didn't say anything to anybody,
pick my backpack straight, because you don't even want those
like those those fake compliments, you know what, you know,
like I try not to do this, like if somebody
bombs like I tried not to be like, hey man,
good set, cause it's like you know, you know, it's not.
(23:23):
And I hate it when I don't do well and
I get off and people are like, A man, I
liked that one. I like that little the thing you
said about the thing you said about the bus. I
like that was funny. You just got to run home
and I literally I've never moved faster, grab my bag,
didn't make eye contact with anybody. I get in the
elevator and another dude who I guess had been at
the show. Also gets in the elevator and he goes, hey, man,
(23:46):
what's your name?
Speaker 3 (23:47):
And I go, uh, it's Devin. I was like, were
you at the show? And he goes, yeah, man, and
then it's like quiet for a second. He goes and man,
you're gonna figure it out one of these buds.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
He goes one of these dads and it's funny. It
was fucked up because at that point I was feeling
pretty good about like in my life with comedy. I
was like, I wasn't like one show. I wasn't working
like you know, I wasn't like making money or anything.
But I felt confident that I was like a decent
enough standard, right, I'd be okay.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
But that one show, and he really was talking to
he was talking to me like that was one of
my first shows. And he was like and he was like, no,
once you gonna you're gonna get it all together.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
At some points set that's how he was talking to me.
I was like, this fucking sucks. It was like it
was bad in a way that like my uber driver
picked up on it on my way back and it's
like in New York City, literally, like I was sitting there.
I don't know how sad I must have looked. You were,
like how much time you got Literally the car around,
(24:51):
you could tell he knew, you could tell I was
radiating you having a bad day.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Man, you'd be all right. But that's that's the bomb
that really stuck with me. I've never had.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Anybody ask me if I was almost done performing. That's tough.
That was really crazy. And then the guy really just
like kind of putting his hand on my shoulder and
being like, you'll one day you'll figure out how to
be good at this. You're clearly not. That's not today,
but like they'll come a point where like, well you'll
be talented. Like that's how he was talking to me.
That was definitely that one really hit me in myself. Yeah,
(25:25):
that's with Addre. With Adre, what's the worst bomb on
SNL that you ever had? Are we talking table anything? Brother?
(25:50):
I don't really know how it works. So you guys
you have Monday off kind of, Oh you meet the
host Monday a day Tuesday. Yeah, yeah, you meet the
host and dude, you pitch, you pitch on Monday, Sundays off,
Sundays off Monday, you meet the host and pitch yeah,
and then and then sit and then and then based
off the pitch, you go into writing Tuesdays. So the
fucked up thing about the pitch and like this is
(26:10):
just this is like a known thing like in the
SNL circles is like you don't pitch an idea that
you actually want to make nine times out of ten.
It's kind of like I kind of describe it.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
As like an icebreaker exercise where they just kind of
want to see that people have funny ideas.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
And so you are going in and pitching. You'll be like, oh,
what if you were a penguin but you were scared
of ice, right, And it's like you're never you never
wanted to write the penguin idea, but you're just hoping
that you can get a response. You know how bad
it feels to like have an I like, have a
fake idea, go poorly in front of your people. Yeah,
you're like my real idea and also a movie star. Yeah,
(26:48):
that shit feels. So you're pitching in front of the group. Yeah,
it's in front of also like a quiet meeting, it's
like in front of everybody's.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
All the writers, all the cast members and the host
the host of city.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
A lot of like a bunch of people are on
the floor and in the center like holding court and
yan yeah or naying.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Ship or they're not supposed to do that, but sometimes
people do. Sometimes people they're supposed to just kind of
like laugh and nod. But occasionally there have been people
who have been like I don't like that idea, Like
I don't like that, I don't like you.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
There's been people who have kind of been like that,
who have been like I don't like that idea. And
there's been over and what would you if you had
to say their name? What would be? Uh? Who's uh?
Was like that? So he was rude? Was he rude
to you?
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Not to my pitch, not to my pitch, but my
homie Gary, when Gary pitch whatever Gary's pitch was.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
I remember being like, we need more stuff like that. Yeah,
you gonna fucking lecture comedians about comedy? He really he
really was like no, no, yes, yeah it was. He
was very like, Okay, this feels this feels charged, very charging, sad.
(28:01):
Next one at a basketball game, he ignored me the
whole time. Well, y'all never talked, and my friend was
like one over from him. Yeah, So I was like
talking around my friend. I'm like, come on, at least
say make eye kind of me. Say Hi, I like
this podcast. You just be talking ship about talking about
you do a lot of other podcasts in this ship.
He'll be like, I'm not gonna say we could take
(28:23):
this off, Mike. You'd be like, hey, fucking asshole. But no,
he was. He was fine.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
He's very like the the dramatic actors I think sometimes
can think a little too deeply into sketch comedy. I
think sometimes that happens where they can actors, they can
really be I remember, I remember was.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
I don't know anybody famous? Wow? See, normally this is crazy.
Normally I'm the person in the conversation who's like, who
the fuck is that people were saying this. The first
we were talking is like when I read the Coachella lineup,
I'm like, who the fuck are these fucking bands? That's
getting crazy, that's getting I gave up. I'll give him
on all popular culture hit. I hit my thirties and
like all of a sudden, it started looking like Gibbers.
(29:04):
There was a time where I really wait your forties,
wait till your forties. Yeah, I could see it's already
you'll feel like you're in your eighties.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
I feel like I'm getting to the edge of really
being able to understand like music for young people.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
And I say music, Billy Corgan said, at best, musicians
have four good years because it's like whatever the high
schoolers or the college kids are listening to. Once they
get to the end of that four year thing, their
music tastes change, and then your fucking career is up
and smoke, he goes. If you can last more than
(29:41):
four years, which is almost nobody except Snoop Dogg in music,
you've hit the jackpot.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
You know what I was thinking about in this exact
same vein is like, you know, obvious, like Stevie Wonder,
Stevie Wonder and like he had his like crazy run
in the seventies. He's making like the most popular music
and like the best music at the same time.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
And then imagine being Stevie Wonder.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
You're Stevie Wonder, and then like nineteen eighty eight, it's
like n WA's the thing.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Now Yeah, you're just like like, well, what the fun
And then you're like fuck, like I guess I don't
make like I guess I can't make it for a
musicians that happens fast. Yeah, Comedians get better as they're older.
If you think about it, you never think of when
you close your eyes and picture Joan Rivers, George Burns,
mel Brooks, Richard pryor Red Fox their most iconic specials.
(30:33):
Let's say Bernie Mack their most iconic stand up specials.
They're like, none of them are in their twenties. They're
all forty. George Carlin's greatest shit is he's in his seventies.
He's totally bald, gray hair. The fucking goddamn best thing
about comedy is like you can be an old fucking
geezer and you could be at your peak. Musicians just
(30:54):
like fucking they have it tough.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
I wonder if it's gonna be that way for stand
for six.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
The cool the coolest guy in showba is, who's the
biggest dick at SNL. I heard Drake was the nicest.
That's what my friend was. I missed him, like we friendly,
I go who was the worst? I forgot who he
told me the shittiest was, but he said, uh, Drake
was the cool. He just like checked in with everybody
(31:24):
and he goes Hey, if you want to fucking bounce
it off me, like, well I'm not here or whatever,
just let me know. That's like rehears he's an actor
at first.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Yeah, I've heard he was cool. We I haven't cross
paths with him. He was he he came to the
show before I was there.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
I heard my friend who used to write. He didn't
say athletes were like necessarily rude, but he said they're
the hardest to write for. Well, I think be guse,
athletes are brutal. I think they have they do it.
They do sports. Well, yeah, I mean it's tough.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
It's tough when you're a ball player because like you
never had to get good at anything else, you know
what I'm saying, Like if he's a skill set, it's
also just like you know what I'm saying, like, imagine
you're there's no way you're you. If you're seven feet
tall and you can dunk, I don't become you exactly.
There's no reason that you would. And I don't you know,
Like it's one of those things where it's just like
(32:15):
if you're if you have what Lebron has, then like
why would you be interesting?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Why would you develop a versonnel? Comedic sense. Then Yeah,
the comedy I think is just friendly. Blood says that
quote where she goes talent is just random sprinkles thrown
across the universe. Like comedy, you're just born with it.
And if you're lebron, if you're if you're six foot
eight and you're born two hundred forty pounds and very
very fast and good fast and good at fast, then
(32:43):
you're like, you're good at that.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
I don't know, do you think we're still going to
get good old comedians, because I do feel like now
now it's like veer now the old guys, I feel like,
are all veering into this weird like cancel shit now.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
I think, like, I don't know. I mean, Chapelle got
canceled like his last three specials, and I think he's
probably the highest paid. He's definitely making the most money. Yeah,
he's definitely lives in exile. And he just sold down
Madison Square Garden. Yeah, he lives like polepot in the woods,
like fucking interesting. He can't even go into he can't
(33:18):
go into a fucking RBS. I was a bit sold
out Madison Square Garden sure recently. Yeah, I forgot about
that stand up like somehow it's so hard to do
and so a few people do it well that it
triumphs over exile. I don't know. Wait, okay, what's the
(33:39):
worst bomb at SNL. It can be table read, It
could be dress reversal. I don't really know how it works.
It could be on It could be ones that aired
like just ones where you were like you you flubbed
a word out the gate or whatever. It's just like
the audience was like, huh, I will say that was
worry that the audience. You guys get in our tourists
(34:01):
from Germany that speak like fourteen languages before they speak
English and they're like, I'm going to see Wicked on
Broadway and I'm gonna go to the Apple Bee is next.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
It definitely can be I mean that's what it used
to feel like. You remember doing like those random shows
on like during the middle of the week in like Carolines.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Oh yeah, you know what I'm saying, and everything shows
a Hostels, which is like the fucking worst. I don't know.
People are like, may this place has a room put
a comedy show in it? Sure? Not a not a
single person spoke English. I'm like, why what is this
for I've done show these ideas. You start trying to
do crowd work, you start trying to ask somebody and
then pointless you'd see them in like I and you're like, oh, Pinocchio,
(34:45):
we don't. It's like we actually don't speak the same
language at all. So it's like, I don't know how
you're gonna. I guess I should just do kind of
funny faces. Yeah, exactly, you should just do like physical comedies,
just slipping on banana bill. But kay, So what was
the hard shows? I keeping?
Speaker 3 (35:01):
I was as the first and foremost I've everyone I've
seen me and my coworkers have so many bombs.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
You're bombing kind of constantly. It's kind of by kind
of by design. You are like always eating shit in
front of your peers. I would say one thing that
really sticks out to me is in my last season,
my second season, I did this.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Character that was like a he was like a barbershop.
I did an update character. There was a barbershop hustler
who sells like bootleg DVDs. Yeah, and I did it.
I did it at the table read. It did pretty good,
and so then you get it to go to dress
and we go to dress. Basically I was supposed to
be pulling out all these uh the.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Table read what night? Table reader is Wednesday, tabridge Wednesday, dresses,
Thursday dresses, Saturday dress is Saturday Saturday morning.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
No, it's Saturday. Like the shows at eleven thirty. The
dress rehearsal shows at eight o'clock. So you do the
entire show, oh, right before where you take right before
the actual recording.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Uh huh. But stuff gets cut, yes, all the time.
Table read stuff gets cut, and then dress versal stuff
gets cut.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Table read like they'll bring they'll bring like usually like
about forty pieces to table read.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Out of those forty, probably ten get picked, okay. And
then how many code of dress? Probably yeah, probably around two.
I mean it'll usually be maybe like and then how
many or nine sketches? How many air? Usually like usually
some about somewhere between like six and like eight or nine. Oh,
I guess because you have a commercial break everything. Yeah,
(36:34):
it's commercials.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Usually maybe six seven sketches out of the ten will air,
and then they'll be like one or two pre tapes.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Why don't you guys pre tape more? I don't know,
let's just live appeal anymore. I don't give a fuck
if something's live, that makes no difference to me as
far as value, like comedic value. Whoa, it's live, I
don't care. But I think you couldn't care less. I'm
about its called Saturday Night pre taped. We would have
(37:03):
to change the name. That's the thing to lie or
just be like I just learned that. I think in
this in nineteen seventy five, I was like, it's live, man,
we're hippies and we're doing coke with Dan act right
back to and it was like, whoa, they might say
the F word on TV or something like. Now it's
just like pre tape all of it, Like what are
we doing? You know? I learned going off fucking Q cards.
(37:25):
It seems so difficult. It is hard. That would be
the whole time. I'd be like, I'd be like a
little kid, like learning how to read. But good, good,
but good the wait wait wait, wait, can you go
back to the other I wouldn't be able to pay
attention to the other actor. That is the thing that
you learned about some it's a thing you learned about
some people not strong readers. I've seen some people who
(37:47):
are really like wizards with the cards. I still I'm
not good at cold reading. And also oftentimes they look
at the script one time they haven't perfectly memorized. I'm like,
fuck off.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Also often the shit is getting like changed up until
the very last second. So there's been times where I
like read the comments and like, why is he looking
at the Q cards. It's like, because this whole chunk
got newg Yeah, that's brand new to me. I didn't
know these lines before they changed.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
You're reading for the first time on air.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
They might show it to you. They might be like, oh, hey,
we changed like that, but I certain you don't know it.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Off rip.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
And with the cards too, sometimes there will be a
thing where it's like I'm talking to you, but my
cards are right there, and naturally I want to look
at you, but you're supposed to look at the cards,
and that's supposed to be your eye line.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
So there's a weird thing of like trying to difficult,
trying to be like it's yeah, it's insane, all right,
where's bomb? Uh? Oh? Yeah? Yeah? The bomb was like, oh, yes,
I was. I was the hustler.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
I was the barbershop hustler who's selling fake DVDs and
Basically there's a guy off to the side who's like
handing me the DVDs, but and I'm supposed to hold
them up and then all the titles are supposed to
be like things that are obviously like similar to something
that's going on, but it's a joke titles exactly. It's
supposed to be joke titles. It was I think that
(39:07):
was when the Taylor Swift thing was popping, and so
I had like the Taylor Swift DVD but it said
like Tyler Strong or something like that, And I didn't
check the DVDs beforehand, and so I was taking them out,
and what I didn't realize until literally until I came off,
was that I was sitting setting them all up upside down.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
No, and so like they were doing.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Nobody told Nobody told me until it was until it
was over, and they were like, hey, bro, like, were.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
You trying to do that? Were you trying to do
that to be funny? Are you next? Were you next
to Chay and college? Yeah? Wellhy didn't they just make
a joke about it, like put the props upside up?
I don't know, like make a joke about it. It didn't.
They gotta save. Yet it didn't happen that way. And honestly,
even despite that.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
It did okay, but that really that that tanks the whole.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Thing, and then it got then it got cut off
the show. It did not make it. Nobody ever saw it,
but I know. I literally this was at the dress.
This was address.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
This is address literally nobody told me until I got off.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
I had absolutely I would have killed myself. No, no, no,
did not did not go to air. But like, and
also it's like they're doing close ups. They're doing close
ups on the DVD in the close presssal they should
have gone, hey, props ups now it would have been nice,
but hey, why he fucking leave you out to drive?
That was the thing that I will always remember. That
(40:28):
was the thing. It's a little strange, and no one
came to the rescue. It felt crazy. That's a little weird.
That's like a little bit like you guys, you guys
want me to this sketch up. SORR would be paranoid
in that situation. I'd be like, you guys, knew not
a single person just said, hey, just flip them upside up?
Why yeah, with a redre with any last bombs that
(41:05):
could be even a bomb from life.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Yeah, I bombed meeting Kendrick Lamar. Bomb mean, Kendrick Lamar.
It's just here's the thing, I.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Think, meaning celebrities, especially the ones you like you as.
That's that's I've learned about s NL, like anybody like
it's it's.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
So much worse for me when there's somebody that I
care about. There's oftentimes where there's hosting musical guests and
I'm just kind of like, whatever, Okay, they got a
song on TikTok like that.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Whatever. There's so many people that like don't mean anything
to me. Every now and again, there will be someone
at the show who I'm like, legitimately like a huge
fan of you want to pull it surprise And it
was my first episode, my first episode, Kendrick Lamar, you're geeking.
I'm geeked. I'm geeked him on TV for the first time,
Like I'm talking to the biggest rapper in the world, Like,
I'm so excited. I I I also don't know, I
(41:55):
don't know if he's known to be mister Warmth. Well
that's man, bro, we got to what's your number? Bro?
Speaker 3 (42:04):
That's so fous, But that's in my in my mind.
That's how like in my mind when I when I
came to the show, Yeah, that's what you want to do.
That's how my interactions will go. That's you know what
I'm saying. Remember when as E's was in the was
in the jay Z video and Kanye video. That's how
I thought my life was gonna start going. And I
was like, I being I'm gonna be in somebody video
(42:25):
probably in the first year or two running around and
I really can't stress enough how much it didn't go
like I really I said something so normal. I was
just like because I had seen him like a month
before I got on the show, I'd seen him at Barclays,
and I just went up to him and I was
just like, hey, bro, it's so good to meet you,
which is like, also, I don't think you should talk
(42:47):
like that to rappers, you know what I'm saying. I'm
talking to him like he's just like like the rappers
have a whole other, like piece of their psyche. That's like,
it's just different. It's not like meeting like a like
a regular person. But I up and I was like, Hey, man,
it's so good to meet you. I just saw your
show at Barclay's, Like, bro, that ship was lit, Like
I loved I love the show, and he just I
(43:07):
was like, that was a great show and he goes.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Yeah, yeah, not even thanks. Thanks is the same amount
of energy as Yeah. He was like, yeah, I know, yeah,
I think to be that successful, he's very talented. But
to be that successful and fearless, you have to have
an ego. There's no person that does. But I met his.
(43:29):
I met Baby Keeman. He was like the most laid back,
no arrogance at all. He was like, hey, man, you
want to get some spaghetti? And I was like, fuck yeah.
I was that Carbone. We were at Barclay's. We were
watching a Brooklyn Nets game. Oh yeah, my buddy was
friends with him. Yeah. So we sat at the Carbones
backstage and like he couldn't have been more down dirt,
(43:52):
the opposite experience. That's good. What are you up to man?
You're funny man? Yeah, Like like I felt like I
was like talking to like my cousin. And I was
like so happy that he was so nice and so
down to earth. I was like few but that I
love Baby. I saw Baby Heames first ever in New
York City show No Way I saw Kendrick and baby
(44:12):
Keema at Stable Center which is now called Crypto dot
Com or you know, they gotta change that. They gotta
change that. That can't they can't keep that. That's really so,
this is not cool. I thought it was a joke
when someone first said that, Yeah, I thought like I
thought somebody was making a weird joke. And then I
got there, and I've been to fucking a million Lakers games.
(44:32):
It's been the Stable Center for years. And then like
I got there, I was like, this really happened. This
is a fucking Ponzi scheme. This is a con. I
can't believe they did it. And the Miami Dolphins at
one point almost got bought by bang Bros. It was
almost the Bangro Stadium and all from Miami. All my
friends are like, yes, that was the most Miami ship
(44:53):
that would have been. Let that happen, and they NFL
would have let it happen. That would have been I
really do wish that could have happened. That have been
so bad. I would have become a Dolphins fan just
off my drinking. God. That was just so horrible, and
they've been horrible in my whole life. The heat stadium
was named after that one company that went down, right,
wasn't it like the f the ft x Uh? They
were American Airlines and there casseis or something they get
(45:16):
bought by. I thought they got bought by like one
of those like big not probably. I thought the naming
rights was like, who's the crypto guy that just like
who went to prison for a long time. I thought
he had maybe maybe same bankman. Fami is the only
city that's like it like is proud of its corruption.
It's so proud of how corrupt it is. It's like cartoonishly.
(45:41):
We have so much pride to being scum. I did
not know you were from Miami. Yeah. Yeah, well I
was born in Miami, but I grew up in Bookers
in Florida, which is way lamer. It's where the Golden
Girls TV show to explain that's play. So I grew
up at like an old folks home basically. But it's
like I don't really ever claim Miami just because I
don't want people to be like, nah, he's a fucking
large ship. Yeah, Miami is the only town that's like
(46:04):
fuck yeah, we're bang bro Stadia where the corrupt, crypto
fucking guy in jail. If you're like going to jail
or like anything, we're like, yeah, the cops are like
notoriously more criminal than the criminals.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
Miami, as I understand, it is really like a city.
It's like a flex city. Like everybody's always trying to
flex that they got the flyest shit or that they're
doing the coolest thing ever.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
The worst drivers in the world. Yeah, it's one of
my favorite cities. It's super fun. It's tropical Vegas. You
can't go there too long or you'll die. I have
a drug overdose. But it is one of my favorite cities.
As can I tell you about Speaking of Miami, can
I tell you about the time I bombed a city? Yeah, like,
just like I did such a bat I took a
(46:48):
trip to Miami. It was one of the worst trips
I've ever taken. Me gonna be rough.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
It was no, no, no, I didn't do a show.
I didn't do a show. This is literally this is
like deep in the pandemic. I just kind of needed
to like get out. I needed to get out of
New York.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
City, so I like, there's no rules. People were like
over mouthed, coughing COVID into each other faces.
Speaker 3 (47:08):
But here's the thing is, I thought it was going
to be like that when I went down to Miami.
When I actually got down there, it was like the
it was like a three week period where like Miami
was actually shut down, and I.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
Really I didn't know it was going to be like this.
You were there the only three weeks exactly. It literally
I thought it was going to be open, and I
was like kind of down. I was just like whatever,
I need to like be a person and like do
some like regular ship.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
I can't tell you how many l's I took on
this trip. It was like it was miraculous. That sucks,
Like it was really, I'll take it. I'll take you
down there. I'll show you around.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Let's go to my I would love to go to my.
You know who's a Latin dude on SNL. That's Miami. Marcelo,
Marcello he is, that's a Miami boy, that's Miami. He'll
take you, He'll take you. That's in Miami. You will
spend money with him. He is always telling me. He's
always like, bro, you got to come on, bro, come
to Miami. Yeah, I do feel like I'll take you
out there. But he'll take you down and down Ondre
(47:59):
like dirty. Yeah, I feel like I trust, I trust
that he will show you the real ship. I need
to do it one of these days because my trip
went bad. I like, no, no, you need to redo. Yeah,
I got to do another one for sure. Devon, you
were named after Devon Aoki from Yeah, from the Fast
and Furious movies. Yeah, yeah, I'm assuming Yeah, yeah, you're
named after both Devon and Paul Walker. My dad, my
(48:20):
dad saw that movie.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
I was like nine at that point, and my dad
was like, I used to have a different name. My
name used to be Samuel. And then he watched that.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
So powerful. He said, let's go ahead, and we're waving
a checker and flag around now, just go ahead. Forget
all those first nine years. That's over. He goes, Fuck,
I'm going let's go to d m V. Change your
name right now, Steve Aoki sister, that's all part of
the reason you got name changed. Thank you so much.
Thanks for having me, Bro. I appreciate you for sure. Amen, Amen,
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
Enjoy Bombing with Eric Andrey.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
We're here with Devin Walker, Ladies and Gently from Saturday
Lives Away from regionally Boston, Texas. Austin, Texas, the indie
movie capital of the world. I don't know what is
it famous for? Sounding them barbecue barbecue Aaron Franklin, south
By Southwest, Matthew McConaughey. No, he's from a Galveston or something.
(00:58):
He's from Waco.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
He's from like Tyler, like Long He's from East Texas,
but he went to school in Austin and now he's.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Like always from like a real hero role town.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Right, He's from the type of Texas that people think
of when they think about Texas.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Like he's East Texas.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yes, the kind of ship exactly he's from, like that
realm of Texas and East Texas is exactly the part
of Texas that people imagine Texas to be.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
The worst shows of my entire life were all in East,
almost all East.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I'm from Texas, and I would never do I'm never
going east of Houston.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
That's as far east. I think that's a good Yeah, yeah,
there's just nothing familiar with that. I stand by that
because Houston has great cage and great Vietnamese food at least,
and they're pretty good chosen a good city. I've had
the worst shows of my life in Dallas, and Port
Arthur is probably one of the worst shows that I had.
I would have loved to have been at that show
for what I know about twenty three years old, for
(01:52):
what I know.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
About you and what I know about Port Arthur, I
would have loved to see how those things. I like UGK,
I mean, of course you GK, Janis Joplin okay, mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I know more about UGK than Jennis Child. And the
only thing I like out of East East Texas is UGK.
That's fair. Andrews Meeks was on the show. He's also
from East Texas shout out. Does Houston counts East Texas? Uh?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
No, Houston is Houston. You know what I'm saying, kind
of like how Texas doesn't count.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
I like Matthew mcconnaey and Woody Harrelson. They're from the
same town. Is that true? Yeah, they might have the
same dad. Yes, I did. Can't believe and can't believe it.
I could kind of see it. Yes, I'm going with
West Sexes. What's that? You Ever been to Al Paso? Oh? Yeah,
I did, not acid, but I did two c I
(02:37):
or to I did some weird psychedelic with Byron Bauers
and we went to this and we're the only ones tripping.
And we went to this uh barbecue restaurant in El Paso,
and everyone looked like machete like Danny Chreho and all
their friends were drunk. No one else were tripping, And
it was a very very challenging psychedelic experience. That sounds
like it was not cool. No, it's a bit of
(02:58):
a bomb. That sounds crazy. Yeah, how's how's the show?
That wasn't even a show. We were driving from that
was our day off on tour, so we were it
was almost ten years ago. I think it was like
we had a show in San Diego, then the next
show was in Dallas or something, so we had to drive.
We had to stop at l Passa because our bus
(03:19):
driver wasn't allowed to drive, you know, he's a truck driver.
Bus Ever, we kept drivers around hours. There's a certain
amount of like yeah, so it was like our hiatus night.
So that's why it's a good time. That's a good
place to spend it. It was cool. I always done
one day there, but Marfa, I'd ever done to either
Martha or Marfa.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
That's a good place to go, take some drugs and
enjoy yourself. That's really like that part of Texas because
it's really nothing in Marfa. It's like one bar and
like one restaurant, Like there's really nothing out there that's
like really where like the skies are gorgeous in the
way that like you're like, oh, I like these country
songs make sense to me now.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
So when did you come? Did you? Were you doing
stand up and based out of Awesome when you got us? No, no,
no no.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I had moved to New York, so like I started
and an improv I was just a straight standup guy.
I never did improv. I don't know if I'm a
good enough like team player to do improv.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
You gotta be a team player, right, that's what you're thinking,
That's what you es. And L is less so like
one big team and it's more like a bunch of
little teams together. I heard much about Jen one Boomer
SNL cast members. I only hear rough stuff about Steve Martin,
dan Aykroyd, Oh yeah, Chevy Chase. I heard horrendous stuff
(04:35):
of he's a character, and I heard Bill Murray's kind
of fucking hot and cold.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I haven't spent time around a lot of those. I
met some of them at the fifty. I met Garrett Morris,
who was cool as he's cool. He was really and
he was cool as fuck. I really fuck with Garrett Morris,
but like that, it never surprises me when people in
this from the seventies where he used to just be
allowed to be a worse person.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
You know what I'm saying that it.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Used to be chill, You used to be able to
be a piece of shit. Now you kind of got
to be I just.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Wish I grew up, you know, I grew up watching
Ghostbusters and shit. I wish those guys were cool as fuck.
I'm just hearing secondhand. Yeah, they might be. I have
not spent time with any of those folks. I hope
they're cool. I hope they're cool too. At least we
got Garrett Morris. At least Wait, you started doing stand
up and yeah, I was in Austin. In Austin, you
moved to New York, and then that's when you auditioned
for Yes, Now.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
I moved to New York in eighteen and then twenty
twenty two I auditioned and got the show.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Were you fucking pumped or were you terrified? Both? Yeah? Yeah,
it was both. I'd never done sketch comedy before. Yeah,
you know what I q cards, which is seems like
a nightmare, which is also a whole new, brand new thing.
It's like I always think I would drink to the
point of being drunk every before every show. Did you
ever host the show? Absolutely? You have to. Any comic
(05:46):
that says they wanted it is lying. You have to.
I grew up on it. I grew up at Chris Farley.
I don't exist without Chris Farley. Yeah, you know what
I mean. He's like so part of my DNA and
like as I was coming of it. He died when
I was twelve, but like when I was like nine, ten, eleven, twelve,
I only watched his his sketches and his movies like
(06:08):
I would. I think that generation is cool of SNL
like the gen xers, like Adam Sandler is the nicest guy.
To be fair, I've never met any of the Boomer snlers. Yeah,
but I met the gen Xer snls and there have
been nothing but sweet. But I think they were picked
on a ship ton. But I think Boomer I think
(06:29):
it was friction because they were traumatized by basically their
their dads, their comedy dads. I think they're much nicer
to the younger generation. I think there's something to it.
I've met way more of those guys.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I met Sandler, I've met I just met Tim Meadows,
which was cool.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
The coolest guy I just met. Those guys are cool.
He was cool as all that gen Yeah, I wish
I could have met and they went through because they
went through hell too, you know they were I hear
horror stories from Yeah. That was also that I shouldn't talk
shit about your job so openly, but yeah, you can.
You really are allowed to talk shit about my job.
I got it, I got it. Chill, but you can
(07:08):
go you say all the stuff you more Man Harry Sheer,
who voices half the Simpsons characters. Yeah, who is on SNL.
For five seconds he said, I think he's the one
who goes. Every time I walked into thirty Rock to work,
I would feel like death, he goes. I really felt
like that building is cursed, and I'm to this day
(07:31):
still traumatized.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
It's such an incubator for tap, Like, there are so
many talented people there, and there are some people who
crack the code on like how to do that thing,
and there are some people who never quite because it's
obviously like you know, being funny as part of it,
and then there's all this other stuff that you learned
about that is in addition to like being funny and
like writing a good sketcher, like coming up with a
(07:53):
good character. There's all these other little things that you
have to figure out. Yeah, and some people are better
that than others. I guarantee you.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
There's like, I mean, how many people like Conan was
there for a couple of years and like yeah, and
that like wasn't really his thing. I feel like there's
so many people who we.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Go on to see Thrive and do all this other
stuff who were at the show and they're just like, yeah,
I couldn't fucking I couldn't figure it out.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Zach Alvin Aks, I think he's got fired like after
like two weeks or something. Oh, I forgot about that.
You got fired like in record timing. I think he
was like one of the quickest firings for that way.
I actually be Smooth was in the writer's room too.
Maybe Smooth was the writer for like two or three years,
did better than Zach, but something like that. You know
(08:35):
some of these I mean, Jimmy's smooth and Zach's funny,
only two of the funniest people Like you laugh before
they even say a word, just their face. You're like
laughing before they begin. Yeah, and uh, it's just like that.
I feel like there's a there's like a hundred different
people like that who like they came to the Show's
got to be a better system. It doesn't have to
be that painful. I will say, though. You know, what
(08:56):
I've heard people talk about about the job is like
I've heard them.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Describe it as like it's like running with like a
weight vest on where it's like as soon as you
leave and go do something else, you're just.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Like, oh, that's true. Yeah, it is easy because you
went through the fuckingh an redemption sewer exactly. You made anything. Okay,
So tell me about some of your bombs, tell me
about some of your work shows. Yeah, but you got
a degree in psychology and a master's an organizational leadership.
(09:29):
We got an audible gasp over there, smarty pants, what's
going on here? I guess where'd you go? You went
to UT. I went to Texas State, which is like
it's like it's like a half hour from UT. It's
money go to UT. Well, I didn't work hard enough
in high School's hard to get into.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
It's like you have to be in the top ten
percent of your graduating class.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah to get into UTS like a huge school, and
they're just like.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
It is a huge school, but it's like all the
top ten percent kids, and then if you're not in.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I didn't know that. I thought it was like a
hundred billion kids went to that school and the right, Hey.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Come on, that's the school the school I went to.
That's that's at school. It's a little smaller than ut
but it literally is hairs from Texas. No, none of
my family's from Texas.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Where they're from.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
My mom's from Virginia and my dad's from p A.
My that's from Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Oh ship did you end
up on Texas?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
It was My parents were in the military and that
was the first job that my dad got was in Austin.
And so your parents kill anybody, and that she would
be so fly would be awesome. Got it? Killed children
in Vietnam, Dude, I don't get my dad's my dad's seventy.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
But no, he was like he would have been like
desert storm, like he was like in that era.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Okay, so killed children just make created the genocide and
irack fucking Dick Cheney's oil. Hey man, Nah, I know
no kills at least as far as I know. I
hope I find think he kills him. I didn't tell you.
That would be kind of fly. I don't think so.
I don't think my dad has his PTSD. No, he
wasn't in combat. He was a p STDs. Does he
have any STDs? Bro? That would be kind of fly.
(11:18):
They're still married. No, my parents was put up for
how long were they together? My parents were to go
for like uh well like fifteen sixteen, No, no, seventeen,
like seventeen or eighteen years because they gave it a shot.
They gave it a shot. Oh it wasn't a quick
gave it a shot. That's that sput up when I
was in high school. Two decades is enough. They gave
you know what I'm saying, I really got to grow
(11:39):
up in the years you're supposed to have. Like they
got every bit of juice out of that relationship. They
tried it, and you know, are your parents. My dad's dead.
But they were married for twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yea.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Then they were divorced for twenty five years. But they
split up when I was twelve, which is that's absolute
worst time. I wish my dad just waited like four
more more years for me. If I was fifteen sixteen,
I would have handled it more. But twelve, you're coming
of age, you're passing puberty, you're like finding yourself and
your POV. Like it's a tough. And I was blindsided
about it too, because they didn't they didn't fight at all.
(12:11):
He just slowly dripped situation. Yeah, yeah, them telling me
and I was like, oh, like I thought y'all, like
I knew y'all had like some problems, but I didn't know.
It was like you got now somebody got to move
out the house. I didn't even understand it. When they
first told me my I was like, hey, I'm gonna
live somewhere else for a little bit. And I was like,
I guess he's working nights. Like I don't know what
he was talking about. He got a special pressure be
(12:32):
like are you okay? Are you okay? And I was
like I'm okay until you asked me if I'm okay
twenty times right and then and then just movers came
like a few weeks later, started moving shit out of
the house. I go, oh, wait, are you guys getting
a divorce? And they were like yeah, And I burst
into tears. That give you that informs horrible parenting. I
was horrible parenting. They didn't tell me shit.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
My parents did a thing where I've told this on
another podcast. My parents did a thing where my mom
moved out the house, moved out the house, and my
dad stayed in the house and my siblings, uh yeah,
I have three, but at that point it was just
me and my little sister still in the house, and
my mom moved out the house. When I had a
I had like a football game scrimmage. Literally, I like
(13:14):
left during the games during.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
The guy scrimmage and like San Antonio, she literally did.
I mean, they told me they were gonna do it,
but like literally I left, went played the game, came
back from San Antonio. Where's mama at? Oh? Well? Literally?
Literally fucking Okay, we had a similar situation our parents.
She moved to a different town, not immediately, she moved
(13:37):
to like an apartment across town, and then she lived
over there until I got to college, and then she
moved to another city. Okay, how old are you when this?
I was sixteen when they split it. I wish my dad.
The thing is, my dad met my stepmom, so he
had he had to call it quits because he didn't
want to have an affair. Yeah, and he just had
not They had nothing in common, so he he would
(14:01):
have waited if he could, maybe, but he didn't want
to cheat on my mom. He was just like, well,
I'm not in love with the current woman. That's kind
of sweet, yeah, kind of insane. They were like my
parents were like roommates. They were like, had nothing in common.
They gave it twenty five fucking years. They give it
a shot, and they really had nothing in common to
begin with.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
I haven't done anything for twenty five years. I know
in my life that you know what I'm saying. So
I haven't worked out for like twenty five days straight
in my life. They gave it twenty five years of love.
That's that's all you can really hope. They had two
kids and two grand kids.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
They give it. They fucking you know, all right, telling
me your words bombs, I mean, stand up wise.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
The bomb that really stands out to me was it
was around here this before weed was really popping. Is
before like weed was really like legal in New York?
Is weed fully legal? I don't really know. It's like
I can fully legal in LA. But they want to
come here.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
You go to a weed store and they're like, we
can't sell weed yet, and you're like, what do you
mean exactly? And then you go to a store that's
just like, oh, we sell cool T shirts. And then
you go in the back and they have like tons
of weed. You're like, are you allowed to do this?
Like I don't know, and they'll be exactly and I'll
go to a weed store and I'll like, I'll like
pick up some weed, and they'll be like, here's the weed.
They'll be like, all right, so we have to run
(15:18):
your card as if this is an ATM. Yeah. Yeah,
we can only dollars at a time, and then we
got to split it into a different transaction. I'm like,
so this is this. Are we supposed to do this
or not? I really can't tell. I don't think you
get to figured out.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
I continue to buy weed though, but yeah, I this
was before weed was as like openly out in the
open as it is now. This before the pandemic, and
it was at this like weed speakeasy. It was at
this like speakeasy and I walk in.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
By the way. We probably had fifty people on this show,
but now I would say three or four are like
weed speakeasy shows are the worst I've ever bumped. That's
that's one of my worst problems. It's terrifying. It's really better.
I'm horrible with weed. Yeah, everybody's so stoned at those shows,
and they're like catatonic. You're in like a ketamine fucking
(16:08):
Robotest're like coma toast.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
And also the one that I did was it was
an all black room. It was all it was all black,
little crowd. So it's like, which can be like you
just have to approach them different. It's a different it's
just got better get that first joke exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
They got it. They gotta like you sent. If they're
not into you off rip, then you're kind of in trouble.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
But it's also like in addition to like it's a
little bit different for like doing an all black room.
Also like black people is naturally kind of just like
being too cool for school anyway, you know what I'm saying.
So this show, this was it was like around midtown.
It was like somewhere around like where we're at right now,
Like it was in this zone. So this is like
a speakeasy, stoner black room. Yes, okay, And and you're
(16:50):
what number on are you fourth on the lineup? Is
there a bunch of comics or just you or what? No,
it's several comics. Let's say let's say it was five comics.
I'm like second, and before they like maybe did the
host and then one other set and then they were like,
all right, it's time for.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
The blunt rolling competition.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
And then they literally had like two women come out
and like, so you could roll the best blunt the
fastest before this is right, this immediate, immediately before I go.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
They should have just let those women roll blunts the
rest of the night. That was much more exciting than
what I had. Yes, they should have been like that.
You don't go back to stand up comedy after that.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
You should not do You should never interrupt stand up
comedy and then bring it back again because.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Usually what the fucking blood roller got it. That was
like the wet Teacher contest, the weed You're like, what's
going to weed industry? It's I was like, that was exciting.
I was like, this is awesome. And then the host
literally like they're they're like, congratulations to like dad d
like she won the blunt rolling competition. Then the host
just come back up, who's like, hey, congratulations to her.
And next up we got Devin Walker. Yeah, yeah, I
(17:54):
come up. Now, they're not a great intro. He's he's
not like you know from comedy, like, huh, yeah, it
was up Devin Walker. Yeah, bring up Devin Walker please.
Literally people are like huh exactly. People, It's like there's
a haze in the air. There's a haze in the air.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Everybody's like it's literally like pipes and bongs and blunts
and joy like. People are sparking up. People are like
very laid back. It's also like it's like it's like
bean bags.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
That's high. That's what I'm saying. Everybody's too the Yeah,
nobody's it's just like, that's not the time for me
to like point out my little observations, like that's not
the moment for that. So you get on stage. I
get on stage and I try to make a little
joke about the room about the blunt rolling competition. That's
(18:45):
what I'm saying. You if you swing and miss that
first time, it's already people being like, I don't like
if the second one doesn't does And so it's like, yeah,
I do. I'd say something like, oh man, look at
the something. It was stupid and bad. Whatever. You're like,
oh man, I'm performing after the blow rolling competition, hope
(19:06):
you all ready for this, And they were like crickets.
Whatever I said, it was absolute silence. Yeah, I uh,
And you're like gold And I'm like and I'm like, okay,
all right, all right, all right, were you high? No? No, no,
I can't. I can't get high and do stand up.
I've done it, and it's a horrible, horrible chance.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
It's not my I'm not I'm not a huge we guy.
Just like in general, I like, I like smoking weed
by myself. Yeah before better that's I can do one puff.
That's the only way I ever's for me. It makes
me depressed, you know what I mean, weird?
Speaker 1 (19:39):
You just got a tennis mall. Yeah, you know. I
took my dog to dog park and I was like,
I don't want to tennis ball, and I forgot to
play them. Well you started playing with the other dogs.
I was like, I don't need Yeah, I got you.
You don't interaction. But anyway, uh, I'm the first thing bombs.
So you're getting a secondhand high, probably from the weedy. Yeah,
(20:02):
I'm just like not in my element.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
They then like I tried another joke that was like
maybe a newer thing that like also is getting nothing
at this point. You know when you really get desperate,
when you're like five, you're like five minutes in, four
minutes in, and you got nothing going on, and you're like, okay,
well now I got to bring out the old ship.
Now I got to bring out the jokes that like
always well I got to dig in my pocket, yeah
and really try something, but those don't work. I tried,
(20:28):
like I tried two or three of those got like
a like if normally let's say normally those jokes got
like an eight, they got like a two.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
It was that was the best ship that I had
in twenty nineteen. That got a two. And literally after
the second, that's now four jokes and maybe total, I've
gotten like nine laughs. Like it's really but like nine
laps from like nine different people individual, yeah, like nine
individual laughs.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
And so there was all literally at this point like
it's going. It's going so bad that they could probably
start to see the panic on my face.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
And literally sweats building up. It felt like that.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
It felt like I was like really like just be
like like that's how it felt like. It was paying
out of my face. And literally there's this woman. I'll
never forget her. She raised her hand in the back.
She raised her hand, She raised her hand like it
was a Q and A And at this point I
got nothing else to lose.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I was like, hey, yeah, yes, yes, man, what's what's
going on? What do you want to ask? And she goes, baby,
how much time you got lost? She's like, let's wrap
this baby, come on now, we see what's going on.
We see it to the table. You did your best,
it's not really cooking, lizz Are you almost done? And
(21:48):
it it really was like in most other situations you'd
be you'd be like, hey, this is my time, like
I'm performing, mom, And she wasn't like the fuck you
you sung, was like hey, right now, it's like that's
what's going on. We we we we can all see it.
We see you lost to the blunt rolling competition in
(22:08):
a pretty substantial way, Like that brought a lot more
entertainment to the crowd than what you're doing right now.
So like, why don't you go ahead? And the whole
thing should have been blunt rolling competition and just different
weed hot dog. Absolutely that should be.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Like yeah, it should it should be that, or just
like have some niggas come play jazz, just like you
just spoke me when being quiet, listen to somebody plays
saxophone on the base, Like that's what it should have been.
I could have I really couldn't be mad at that
woman because she was so right in that moment.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
It was it was time for me to leave. It
was time for me to go, and I maybe did
one more thing to to to moderate to no reaction,
and then I got off and it was one of
those bombs where it's like I didn't even want to
see the other comedian. You can't look away. It was
really like I was like I it was. There was
(23:02):
a little green room like off to the side of
where the stage was. I literally I had a backpack.
I literally grabbed my backpack. Didn't say anything to anybody,
pick my backpack straight, because you don't even want those
like those those fake compliments, you know what, you know,
like I try not to do this, like if somebody
bombs like I tried not to be like, hey man,
good set, cause it's like you know, you know, it's not.
(23:23):
And I hate it when I don't do well and
I get off and people are like, A man, I
liked that one. I like that little the thing you
said about the thing you said about the bus. I
like that was funny. You just got to run home
and I literally I've never moved faster, grab my bag,
didn't make eye contact with anybody. I get in the
elevator and another dude who I guess had been at
the show. Also gets in the elevator and he goes, hey, man,
(23:46):
what's your name?
Speaker 3 (23:47):
And I go, uh, it's Devin. I was like, were
you at the show? And he goes, yeah, man, and
then it's like quiet for a second. He goes and man,
you're gonna figure it out one of these buds.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
He goes one of these dads and it's funny. It
was fucked up because at that point I was feeling
pretty good about like in my life with comedy. I
was like, I wasn't like one show. I wasn't working
like you know, I wasn't like making money or anything.
But I felt confident that I was like a decent
enough standard, right, I'd be okay.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
But that one show, and he really was talking to
he was talking to me like that was one of
my first shows. And he was like and he was like, no,
once you gonna you're gonna get it all together.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
At some points set that's how he was talking to me.
I was like, this fucking sucks. It was like it
was bad in a way that like my uber driver
picked up on it on my way back and it's
like in New York City, literally, like I was sitting there.
I don't know how sad I must have looked. You were,
like how much time you got Literally the car around,
(24:51):
you could tell he knew, you could tell I was
radiating you having a bad day.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Man, you'd be all right. But that's that's the bomb
that really stuck with me. I've never had.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Anybody ask me if I was almost done performing. That's tough.
That was really crazy. And then the guy really just
like kind of putting his hand on my shoulder and
being like, you'll one day you'll figure out how to
be good at this. You're clearly not. That's not today,
but like they'll come a point where like, well you'll
be talented. Like that's how he was talking to me.
That was definitely that one really hit me in myself. Yeah,
(25:25):
that's with Addre. With Adre, what's the worst bomb on
SNL that you ever had? Are we talking table anything? Brother?
(25:50):
I don't really know how it works. So you guys
you have Monday off kind of, Oh you meet the
host Monday a day Tuesday. Yeah, yeah, you meet the
host and dude, you pitch, you pitch on Monday, Sundays off,
Sundays off Monday, you meet the host and pitch yeah,
and then and then sit and then and then based
off the pitch, you go into writing Tuesdays. So the
fucked up thing about the pitch and like this is
(26:10):
just this is like a known thing like in the
SNL circles is like you don't pitch an idea that
you actually want to make nine times out of ten.
It's kind of like I kind of describe it.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
As like an icebreaker exercise where they just kind of
want to see that people have funny ideas.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
And so you are going in and pitching. You'll be like, oh,
what if you were a penguin but you were scared
of ice, right, And it's like you're never you never
wanted to write the penguin idea, but you're just hoping
that you can get a response. You know how bad
it feels to like have an I like, have a
fake idea, go poorly in front of your people. Yeah,
you're like my real idea and also a movie star. Yeah,
(26:48):
that shit feels. So you're pitching in front of the group. Yeah,
it's in front of also like a quiet meeting, it's
like in front of everybody's.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
All the writers, all the cast members and the host
the host of city.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
A lot of like a bunch of people are on
the floor and in the center like holding court and
yan yeah or naying.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Ship or they're not supposed to do that, but sometimes
people do. Sometimes people they're supposed to just kind of
like laugh and nod. But occasionally there have been people
who have been like I don't like that idea, Like
I don't like that, I don't like you.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
There's been people who have kind of been like that,
who have been like I don't like that idea. And
there's been over and what would you if you had
to say their name? What would be? Uh? Who's uh?
Was like that? So he was rude? Was he rude
to you?
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Not to my pitch, not to my pitch, but my
homie Gary, when Gary pitch whatever Gary's pitch was.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
I remember being like, we need more stuff like that. Yeah,
you gonna fucking lecture comedians about comedy? He really he
really was like no, no, yes, yeah it was. He
was very like, Okay, this feels this feels charged, very charging, sad.
(28:01):
Next one at a basketball game, he ignored me the
whole time. Well, y'all never talked, and my friend was
like one over from him. Yeah, So I was like
talking around my friend. I'm like, come on, at least
say make eye kind of me. Say Hi, I like
this podcast. You just be talking ship about talking about
you do a lot of other podcasts in this ship.
He'll be like, I'm not gonna say we could take
(28:23):
this off, Mike. You'd be like, hey, fucking asshole. But no,
he was. He was fine.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
He's very like the the dramatic actors I think sometimes
can think a little too deeply into sketch comedy. I
think sometimes that happens where they can actors, they can
really be I remember, I remember was.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
I don't know anybody famous? Wow? See, normally this is crazy.
Normally I'm the person in the conversation who's like, who
the fuck is that people were saying this. The first
we were talking is like when I read the Coachella lineup,
I'm like, who the fuck are these fucking bands? That's
getting crazy, that's getting I gave up. I'll give him
on all popular culture hit. I hit my thirties and
like all of a sudden, it started looking like Gibbers.
(29:04):
There was a time where I really wait your forties,
wait till your forties. Yeah, I could see it's already
you'll feel like you're in your eighties.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
I feel like I'm getting to the edge of really
being able to understand like music for young people.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
And I say music, Billy Corgan said, at best, musicians
have four good years because it's like whatever the high
schoolers or the college kids are listening to. Once they
get to the end of that four year thing, their
music tastes change, and then your fucking career is up
and smoke, he goes. If you can last more than
(29:41):
four years, which is almost nobody except Snoop Dogg in music,
you've hit the jackpot.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
You know what I was thinking about in this exact
same vein is like, you know, obvious, like Stevie Wonder,
Stevie Wonder and like he had his like crazy run
in the seventies. He's making like the most popular music
and like the best music at the same time.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
And then imagine being Stevie Wonder.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
You're Stevie Wonder, and then like nineteen eighty eight, it's
like n WA's the thing.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Now Yeah, you're just like like, well, what the fun
And then you're like fuck, like I guess I don't
make like I guess I can't make it for a
musicians that happens fast. Yeah, Comedians get better as they're older.
If you think about it, you never think of when
you close your eyes and picture Joan Rivers, George Burns,
mel Brooks, Richard pryor Red Fox their most iconic specials.
(30:33):
Let's say Bernie Mack their most iconic stand up specials.
They're like, none of them are in their twenties. They're
all forty. George Carlin's greatest shit is he's in his seventies.
He's totally bald, gray hair. The fucking goddamn best thing
about comedy is like you can be an old fucking
geezer and you could be at your peak. Musicians just
(30:54):
like fucking they have it tough.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
I wonder if it's gonna be that way for stand
for six.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
The cool the coolest guy in showba is, who's the
biggest dick at SNL. I heard Drake was the nicest.
That's what my friend was. I missed him, like we friendly,
I go who was the worst? I forgot who he
told me the shittiest was, but he said, uh, Drake
was the cool. He just like checked in with everybody
(31:24):
and he goes Hey, if you want to fucking bounce
it off me, like, well I'm not here or whatever,
just let me know. That's like rehears he's an actor
at first.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Yeah, I've heard he was cool. We I haven't cross
paths with him. He was he he came to the
show before I was there.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
I heard my friend who used to write. He didn't
say athletes were like necessarily rude, but he said they're
the hardest to write for. Well, I think be guse,
athletes are brutal. I think they have they do it.
They do sports. Well, yeah, I mean it's tough.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
It's tough when you're a ball player because like you
never had to get good at anything else, you know
what I'm saying, Like if he's a skill set, it's
also just like you know what I'm saying, like, imagine
you're there's no way you're you. If you're seven feet
tall and you can dunk, I don't become you exactly.
There's no reason that you would. And I don't you know,
Like it's one of those things where it's just like
(32:15):
if you're if you have what Lebron has, then like
why would you be interesting?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Why would you develop a versonnel? Comedic sense. Then Yeah,
the comedy I think is just friendly. Blood says that
quote where she goes talent is just random sprinkles thrown
across the universe. Like comedy, you're just born with it.
And if you're lebron, if you're if you're six foot
eight and you're born two hundred forty pounds and very
very fast and good fast and good at fast, then
(32:43):
you're like, you're good at that.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
I don't know, do you think we're still going to
get good old comedians, because I do feel like now
now it's like veer now the old guys, I feel like,
are all veering into this weird like cancel shit now.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
I think, like, I don't know. I mean, Chapelle got
canceled like his last three specials, and I think he's
probably the highest paid. He's definitely making the most money. Yeah,
he's definitely lives in exile. And he just sold down
Madison Square Garden. Yeah, he lives like polepot in the woods,
like fucking interesting. He can't even go into he can't
(33:18):
go into a fucking RBS. I was a bit sold
out Madison Square Garden sure recently. Yeah, I forgot about
that stand up like somehow it's so hard to do
and so a few people do it well that it
triumphs over exile. I don't know. Wait, okay, what's the
(33:39):
worst bomb at SNL. It can be table read, It
could be dress reversal. I don't really know how it works.
It could be on It could be ones that aired
like just ones where you were like you you flubbed
a word out the gate or whatever. It's just like
the audience was like, huh, I will say that was
worry that the audience. You guys get in our tourists
(34:01):
from Germany that speak like fourteen languages before they speak
English and they're like, I'm going to see Wicked on
Broadway and I'm gonna go to the Apple Bee is next.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
It definitely can be I mean that's what it used
to feel like. You remember doing like those random shows
on like during the middle of the week in like Carolines.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Oh yeah, you know what I'm saying, and everything shows
a Hostels, which is like the fucking worst. I don't know.
People are like, may this place has a room put
a comedy show in it? Sure? Not a not a
single person spoke English. I'm like, why what is this
for I've done show these ideas. You start trying to
do crowd work, you start trying to ask somebody and
then pointless you'd see them in like I and you're like, oh, Pinocchio,
(34:45):
we don't. It's like we actually don't speak the same
language at all. So it's like, I don't know how
you're gonna. I guess I should just do kind of
funny faces. Yeah, exactly, you should just do like physical comedies,
just slipping on banana bill. But kay, So what was
the hard shows? I keeping?
Speaker 3 (35:01):
I was as the first and foremost I've everyone I've
seen me and my coworkers have so many bombs.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
You're bombing kind of constantly. It's kind of by kind
of by design. You are like always eating shit in
front of your peers. I would say one thing that
really sticks out to me is in my last season,
my second season, I did this.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Character that was like a he was like a barbershop.
I did an update character. There was a barbershop hustler
who sells like bootleg DVDs. Yeah, and I did it.
I did it at the table read. It did pretty good,
and so then you get it to go to dress
and we go to dress. Basically I was supposed to
be pulling out all these uh the.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Table read what night? Table reader is Wednesday, tabridge Wednesday, dresses,
Thursday dresses, Saturday dress is Saturday Saturday morning.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
No, it's Saturday. Like the shows at eleven thirty. The
dress rehearsal shows at eight o'clock. So you do the
entire show, oh, right before where you take right before
the actual recording.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Uh huh. But stuff gets cut, yes, all the time.
Table read stuff gets cut, and then dress versal stuff
gets cut.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Table read like they'll bring they'll bring like usually like
about forty pieces to table read.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Out of those forty, probably ten get picked, okay. And
then how many code of dress? Probably yeah, probably around two.
I mean it'll usually be maybe like and then how
many or nine sketches? How many air? Usually like usually
some about somewhere between like six and like eight or nine. Oh,
I guess because you have a commercial break everything. Yeah,
(36:34):
it's commercials.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Usually maybe six seven sketches out of the ten will air,
and then they'll be like one or two pre tapes.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Why don't you guys pre tape more? I don't know,
let's just live appeal anymore. I don't give a fuck
if something's live, that makes no difference to me as
far as value, like comedic value. Whoa, it's live, I
don't care. But I think you couldn't care less. I'm
about its called Saturday Night pre taped. We would have
(37:03):
to change the name. That's the thing to lie or
just be like I just learned that. I think in
this in nineteen seventy five, I was like, it's live, man,
we're hippies and we're doing coke with Dan act right
back to and it was like, whoa, they might say
the F word on TV or something like. Now it's
just like pre tape all of it, Like what are
we doing? You know? I learned going off fucking Q cards.
(37:25):
It seems so difficult. It is hard. That would be
the whole time. I'd be like, I'd be like a
little kid, like learning how to read. But good, good,
but good the wait wait wait, wait, can you go
back to the other I wouldn't be able to pay
attention to the other actor. That is the thing that
you learned about some it's a thing you learned about
some people not strong readers. I've seen some people who
(37:47):
are really like wizards with the cards. I still I'm
not good at cold reading. And also oftentimes they look
at the script one time they haven't perfectly memorized. I'm like,
fuck off.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Also often the shit is getting like changed up until
the very last second. So there's been times where I
like read the comments and like, why is he looking
at the Q cards. It's like, because this whole chunk
got newg Yeah, that's brand new to me. I didn't
know these lines before they changed.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
You're reading for the first time on air.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
They might show it to you. They might be like, oh, hey,
we changed like that, but I certain you don't know it.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Off rip.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
And with the cards too, sometimes there will be a
thing where it's like I'm talking to you, but my
cards are right there, and naturally I want to look
at you, but you're supposed to look at the cards,
and that's supposed to be your eye line.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
So there's a weird thing of like trying to difficult,
trying to be like it's yeah, it's insane, all right,
where's bomb? Uh? Oh? Yeah? Yeah? The bomb was like, oh, yes,
I was. I was the hustler.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
I was the barbershop hustler who's selling fake DVDs and
Basically there's a guy off to the side who's like
handing me the DVDs, but and I'm supposed to hold
them up and then all the titles are supposed to
be like things that are obviously like similar to something
that's going on, but it's a joke titles exactly. It's
supposed to be joke titles. It was I think that
(39:07):
was when the Taylor Swift thing was popping, and so
I had like the Taylor Swift DVD but it said
like Tyler Strong or something like that, And I didn't
check the DVDs beforehand, and so I was taking them out,
and what I didn't realize until literally until I came off,
was that I was sitting setting them all up upside down.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
No, and so like they were doing.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Nobody told Nobody told me until it was until it
was over, and they were like, hey, bro, like, were.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
You trying to do that? Were you trying to do
that to be funny? Are you next? Were you next
to Chay and college? Yeah? Wellhy didn't they just make
a joke about it, like put the props upside up?
I don't know, like make a joke about it. It didn't.
They gotta save. Yet it didn't happen that way. And honestly,
even despite that.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
It did okay, but that really that that tanks the whole.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Thing, and then it got then it got cut off
the show. It did not make it. Nobody ever saw it,
but I know. I literally this was at the dress.
This was address.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
This is address literally nobody told me until I got off.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
I had absolutely I would have killed myself. No, no, no,
did not did not go to air. But like, and
also it's like they're doing close ups. They're doing close
ups on the DVD in the close presssal they should
have gone, hey, props ups now it would have been nice,
but hey, why he fucking leave you out to drive?
That was the thing that I will always remember. That
(40:28):
was the thing. It's a little strange, and no one
came to the rescue. It felt crazy. That's a little weird.
That's like a little bit like you guys, you guys
want me to this sketch up. SORR would be paranoid
in that situation. I'd be like, you guys, knew not
a single person just said, hey, just flip them upside up?
Why yeah, with a redre with any last bombs that
(41:05):
could be even a bomb from life.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Yeah, I bombed meeting Kendrick Lamar. Bomb mean, Kendrick Lamar.
It's just here's the thing, I.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Think, meaning celebrities, especially the ones you like you as.
That's that's I've learned about s NL, like anybody like
it's it's.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
So much worse for me when there's somebody that I
care about. There's oftentimes where there's hosting musical guests and
I'm just kind of like, whatever, Okay, they got a
song on TikTok like that.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Whatever. There's so many people that like don't mean anything
to me. Every now and again, there will be someone
at the show who I'm like, legitimately like a huge
fan of you want to pull it surprise And it
was my first episode, my first episode, Kendrick Lamar, you're geeking.
I'm geeked. I'm geeked him on TV for the first time,
Like I'm talking to the biggest rapper in the world, Like,
I'm so excited. I I I also don't know, I
(41:55):
don't know if he's known to be mister Warmth. Well
that's man, bro, we got to what's your number? Bro?
Speaker 3 (42:04):
That's so fous, But that's in my in my mind.
That's how like in my mind when I when I
came to the show, Yeah, that's what you want to do.
That's how my interactions will go. That's you know what
I'm saying. Remember when as E's was in the was
in the jay Z video and Kanye video. That's how
I thought my life was gonna start going. And I
was like, I being I'm gonna be in somebody video
(42:25):
probably in the first year or two running around and
I really can't stress enough how much it didn't go
like I really I said something so normal. I was
just like because I had seen him like a month
before I got on the show, I'd seen him at Barclays,
and I just went up to him and I was
just like, hey, bro, it's so good to meet you,
which is like, also, I don't think you should talk
(42:47):
like that to rappers, you know what I'm saying. I'm
talking to him like he's just like like the rappers
have a whole other, like piece of their psyche. That's like,
it's just different. It's not like meeting like a like
a regular person. But I up and I was like, Hey, man,
it's so good to meet you. I just saw your
show at Barclay's, Like, bro, that ship was lit, Like
I loved I love the show, and he just I
(43:07):
was like, that was a great show and he goes.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Yeah, yeah, not even thanks. Thanks is the same amount
of energy as Yeah. He was like, yeah, I know, yeah,
I think to be that successful, he's very talented. But
to be that successful and fearless, you have to have
an ego. There's no person that does. But I met his.
(43:29):
I met Baby Keeman. He was like the most laid back,
no arrogance at all. He was like, hey, man, you
want to get some spaghetti? And I was like, fuck yeah.
I was that Carbone. We were at Barclay's. We were
watching a Brooklyn Nets game. Oh yeah, my buddy was
friends with him. Yeah. So we sat at the Carbones
backstage and like he couldn't have been more down dirt,
(43:52):
the opposite experience. That's good. What are you up to man?
You're funny man? Yeah, Like like I felt like I
was like talking to like my cousin. And I was
like so happy that he was so nice and so
down to earth. I was like few but that I
love Baby. I saw Baby Heames first ever in New
York City show No Way I saw Kendrick and baby
(44:12):
Keema at Stable Center which is now called Crypto dot
Com or you know, they gotta change that. They gotta
change that. That can't they can't keep that. That's really so,
this is not cool. I thought it was a joke
when someone first said that, Yeah, I thought like I
thought somebody was making a weird joke. And then I
got there, and I've been to fucking a million Lakers games.
(44:32):
It's been the Stable Center for years. And then like
I got there, I was like, this really happened. This
is a fucking Ponzi scheme. This is a con. I
can't believe they did it. And the Miami Dolphins at
one point almost got bought by bang Bros. It was
almost the Bangro Stadium and all from Miami. All my
friends are like, yes, that was the most Miami ship
(44:53):
that would have been. Let that happen, and they NFL
would have let it happen. That would have been I
really do wish that could have happened. That have been
so bad. I would have become a Dolphins fan just
off my drinking. God. That was just so horrible, and
they've been horrible in my whole life. The heat stadium
was named after that one company that went down, right,
wasn't it like the f the ft x Uh? They
were American Airlines and there casseis or something they get
(45:16):
bought by. I thought they got bought by like one
of those like big not probably. I thought the naming
rights was like, who's the crypto guy that just like
who went to prison for a long time. I thought
he had maybe maybe same bankman. Fami is the only
city that's like it like is proud of its corruption.
It's so proud of how corrupt it is. It's like cartoonishly.
(45:41):
We have so much pride to being scum. I did
not know you were from Miami. Yeah. Yeah, well I
was born in Miami, but I grew up in Bookers
in Florida, which is way lamer. It's where the Golden
Girls TV show to explain that's play. So I grew
up at like an old folks home basically. But it's
like I don't really ever claim Miami just because I
don't want people to be like, nah, he's a fucking
large ship. Yeah, Miami is the only town that's like
(46:04):
fuck yeah, we're bang bro Stadia where the corrupt, crypto
fucking guy in jail. If you're like going to jail
or like anything, we're like, yeah, the cops are like
notoriously more criminal than the criminals.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
Miami, as I understand, it is really like a city.
It's like a flex city. Like everybody's always trying to
flex that they got the flyest shit or that they're
doing the coolest thing ever.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
The worst drivers in the world. Yeah, it's one of
my favorite cities. It's super fun. It's tropical Vegas. You
can't go there too long or you'll die. I have
a drug overdose. But it is one of my favorite cities.
As can I tell you about Speaking of Miami, can
I tell you about the time I bombed a city? Yeah, like,
just like I did such a bat I took a
(46:48):
trip to Miami. It was one of the worst trips
I've ever taken. Me gonna be rough.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
It was no, no, no, I didn't do a show.
I didn't do a show. This is literally this is
like deep in the pandemic. I just kind of needed
to like get out. I needed to get out of
New York.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
City, so I like, there's no rules. People were like
over mouthed, coughing COVID into each other faces.
Speaker 3 (47:08):
But here's the thing is, I thought it was going
to be like that when I went down to Miami.
When I actually got down there, it was like the
it was like a three week period where like Miami
was actually shut down, and I.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
Really I didn't know it was going to be like this.
You were there the only three weeks exactly. It literally
I thought it was going to be open, and I
was like kind of down. I was just like whatever,
I need to like be a person and like do
some like regular ship.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
I can't tell you how many l's I took on
this trip. It was like it was miraculous. That sucks,
Like it was really, I'll take it. I'll take you
down there. I'll show you around.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Let's go to my I would love to go to my.
You know who's a Latin dude on SNL. That's Miami. Marcelo,
Marcello he is, that's a Miami boy, that's Miami. He'll
take you, He'll take you. That's in Miami. You will
spend money with him. He is always telling me. He's
always like, bro, you got to come on, bro, come
to Miami. Yeah, I do feel like I'll take you
out there. But he'll take you down and down Ondre
(47:59):
like dirty. Yeah, I feel like I trust, I trust
that he will show you the real ship. I need
to do it one of these days because my trip
went bad. I like, no, no, you need to redo. Yeah,
I got to do another one for sure. Devon, you
were named after Devon Aoki from Yeah, from the Fast
and Furious movies. Yeah, yeah, I'm assuming Yeah, yeah, you're
named after both Devon and Paul Walker. My dad, my
(48:20):
dad saw that movie.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
I was like nine at that point, and my dad
was like, I used to have a different name. My
name used to be Samuel. And then he watched that.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
So powerful. He said, let's go ahead, and we're waving
a checker and flag around now, just go ahead. Forget
all those first nine years. That's over. He goes, Fuck,
I'm going let's go to d m V. Change your
name right now, Steve Aoki sister, that's all part of
the reason you got name changed. Thank you so much.
Thanks for having me, Bro. I appreciate you for sure. Amen, Amen,
(48:51):
happy passover. I'll be with a Recondre. All right, listen up,
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