January 2, 2024 • 32 mins
Ellie and Scott are joined by actress and comedian, Abby McEnany. Abby shares her love of Law and Order Criminal Intent. She talks all about how criminal intent differs from other Law and Orders, what it’s like to work with your heroes and hear about her love of Miller Light. Plus, Ellie shares with Scott her love of the Big Apple Circus.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
No no, no, no no.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Pall to twenty twenty four, the New Year, Welcome twenty
twenty four, Goodbye twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Twenty three is in the rear view mirror. I'm Scott Eckert,
I'm Ellie Kemper.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
This is our podcast Born to Love. Every week and
every New Year, we have a guest on to talk
about something that they love. It can be an interest,
a hobby, anything in the world, Scott. And today we
have Abby mcinnaney. We are so excited to talk with
her today. She is going to be talking with us
(00:44):
today about law and order.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Criminal intent, not SVU, Nope, my law on I s
you fans out there, not the original. It's criminal intent
specifically Abby, good friend of mine, hilarious person.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Excited to chat with her. But before we get to that, inner, Ellie,
do you have a new Year love for us?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I have a New Year Love, Scott, that actually stretches
back to the old year, because make new years, but
keep the old one is silver and yet the other
is gold. Okay, so I inner change the words.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Is that a thing?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Did you?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yes, it's about friends. It's a little ditty about friends.
Make new friends, but keep the old one is silver
and the other's gold. I don't know why you have
to rank your friends or your years for that matter.
All I know is this, This was a love I
experienced several days ago, so technically in twenty.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Twenty three ancient history rear view mirror, but.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
It does stretch into the new year because it is
an abiding love. Scott, I love the Big Apple Circus.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Oh my god, Ellie, I'm absolutely thrilled you said that
I love circuses.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Do you just went tell me about.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
It, Scott, I went to a circus. I remember going
to a circus when I was I think in high school.
A circus came to Saint Louis. Would it have been
Barnum and Bailey?
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Does that?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Probably?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I mean, yeah, the guy with a mustache and the
train cars pulled up. There was cruelty to animals everywhere.
I mean, I'm sure that you had a lot of
cotton candy and threw some peanuts on the floor and
had the time of your life, Ellie.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
But I'm not sure. Probably Barnum and Bailey would be
my I think.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
It was because I should be upfront about this, that's
the only like big circus experience I've had, and I
clearly scarcely remember it. Probably popped up on cotton candy.
My memory is blurred. But so I have not been
to a large scale circus that I clearly remember, Scott.
For those of you, for our listeners who aren't familiar,
(02:51):
the Big Apple Circus is a circus. I believe it's
a different family every year that comes that that uh
is under the umbrella the Big Apple Circus. It's a
circus that takes place in a little park right outside
Lincoln Center in New York City. Thus Big Apple. Because
it's in the Big Apple, it seats probably I would
(03:12):
say about I'm gonna guess six hundred people maybe this tent.
It is a two hour show with intermission. It is
child friendly. Trust me when I say there is no
bad seat in the house, Scott. The physical feats I
witnessed at the Big Apple Circus had my jaw dropped
(03:33):
to the floor. And I am in no way exaggerating.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
So is this primarily like an acrobatic circus like we've talked,
you know, people doing flips and twists and contortionists and
stuff like, what are the physical feats that so amazed you?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Ellie? You are correct.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
There are no animals involved.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Okay, yes, no, that's up and they're not anymore. They don't.
That's not a cool thing. I guess no, it's not.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
And also it would be wildly dangerous because I just
you how small the ring is. You'd have lions mauling people.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
We can't have it.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
We definitely don't want that.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Nobody wants it. What people want, Scott is a man
doing a flip on a tightrope.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I love flips on type ropes.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yes, well, people want is a grown person riding a
bicycle in a basket that has no bottom and is
being lifted off the floor.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
That's what people want, That's exactly.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
But see, the thing is that there isn't a single
person in that tent in the big Top who knew
that's what they wanted until they saw that basket bicyclist.
And as soon as they saw that basket bicyclist, a
need had been filled in their soul. They're like, yes, yes,
this is what I always wanted.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yep, it's the beauty of it.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
It's you.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Look, I went for the first time last year and
I didn't know what I was in for. I thought
I'm doing this for my kids, of course, I'm they
all love it. It's for children. When I tell you,
my younger child fell asleep last year and I almost
I mean I was. I lost a lot of respect
for him that day because the fact that you could
sleep through the Big Apple Circus is on. I can't
(05:16):
comprehend it.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Were they overwhelmed with some was the viral load through
the roof? That's the only possibly. Were they chloroformed or drugged?
Were they instead of apple juice just drinking Nikewell, because
those are the only reasons that I could come up
with for how anyone could sleep through a circus like that.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Unbelievable, Right, Scott, have you been to I think you
in Minnesota. I feel like you've been to a large
scale So.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Look, I love every kind of circus. I'm on board
for minus the cruelty to animal stuff. But I wish
that there was a way to do it humanly because
I also like animals. I like animals performing and doing things.
I've been to those old school circuses. I went to
was a circus in New York. I don't think it
was the Big Apple Circus because it was in like
the Brooklyn Arena where the Brooklyn Nets play and they
(06:04):
have wow motorbikes and stuff. It was like one of
the It was like Barnum and Bailear.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
It was wild.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
It was like a big, big production. And then I
have been to over the years a whole bunch of
those circusole like oh, French circuses or French inspired circuses,
and and each and every one of them I adore.
I love events where they're just trying to entertain me, and.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I don't I don't.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
I don't want to cast dispersions on any of the
people involved with any of these circuses. I don't know
if I'm playing into stereotypes, but those people will do
absolutely anything to get you to smile. They will risk
their lives. They will they will be suspended in baskets.
They've got like a strong man who's lifting like four
(06:54):
very petite women at the same time.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, I mean, it's one thing when you about it.
It's one thing when you see it on YouTube. It
is quite another to see it in person. Scott, I
was wearing a mask just because, for any number of reasons,
there's lots of stuff going around.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
My mask fell off.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
My face because you were so shocked the speed.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
And the like the momentum or whatever of my jaw
dropping flipped the mask off my face. That's how shocked
I was. There was they had three bodybuilders who were
holding each other up in like slow motion, you know,
and they kept holding different poses. And when as someone
who tries to do five push ups every day just
to remain you know, firm, I can't. I'm I feel like,
(07:42):
I mean, they're equal.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I think the operative word there is tries. When you
said you try to do five push ups every day?
Is that like you had that as a goal and
some days you just skip? Or is it each and
every day you say to yourself, I'm gonna get through five,
and most days you stop at three.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
It's so funny. Like most things, it's just getting yourself
to do it. Let me be clear, when I set
my mind to it, I can do five, no problem.
It's just having to get on the floor and do them.
I'm very strong, so I can speak to how difficult
holding another man in your like palm is.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I know exactly what you mean.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
There.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I'll tell you this and then we'll move on. There
was one feat involving ping pong balls where the guy started.
He started off with juggling them. Then the next thing
I know, he's juggling them in his mouth like he's
setting out ping pong balls. He's juggling them in his mouth.
There's no other way to describe it.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
He was like y's cycling through. That's what I meant.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I was so boneheaded and trying to come up with
examples of the links they'll go to to entertain people.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
But that's the perfect example.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
A man trained himself to juggle with his mouth just
for my amusement, and I love it.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Like did that take?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Do you think that took?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Do you think that a skilled circus performer like that
that once you get the knack for doing bizarre things,
you can learn a new bizarre thing relatively easily? Or
is it instead the case that in a French village
there's just like an artisan who teaches young children to
juggle ping pong balls, right, and.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
It takes fifteen years?
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Right?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I wish I knew.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Which would you prefer?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I don't know which I prefer.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I don't know either. And it's crazy to me that
you can spend so much time on nothing. And then
I look over and this person has mastered this unusual skill,
and it's like, what am I doing with my life anyway?
Scott speaking of great lives and mastering skills.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Masterful talent.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
My friend Abby mcinnaaney one of the funniest people that
I have ever met. Most recently, she was on a
little show called and Just Like That. Yeah, she's an actress,
she is a writer, she is a show creator. One
of my favorite shows of all time is the show
that she created in starred in on Showtime called Work
in Progress.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
She's also well known in the Chicago improv community. Abbi
mcananey here today to talk to us, as we said before,
about her love of law and order, criminal intent and Scott,
I just.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Want to mention we recorded this lovely conversation with Abby
months ago, but because of the actor's strike, we were
unable to release it until now. I could not be
more thrilled that the world gets to hear it now.
I hadn't met Abby before this, and it was such
everything you say. I second, she is a pleasure, a delight.
When we come back, join us with Abby mcinnaney talking
(10:50):
about law and order, criminal intent, love.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
No, no, no, no, that's the extent.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
I love a song.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I love he singing Borne too, like a little scratchy,
a little heavy metally.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Welcome back to Born to Love.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
We have our guest, Abby mcnaney with us.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Thank you for coming, Abby, you for coom.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
You are so welcome. And Ellie, I'm so happy to
be you and Scott. I'd come anywhere you invite me to,
but you just never call.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I'm a texting kind of guy, Abby, I only tell.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
You are You're a texting kind of goal. That's right.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I'm trying to remember the exact context. I think I
sent you a text and like thirty seconds later, my
phone FaceTime alert. Oh yeah, Abby, yeah, jump right to
the FaceTime. I was like, oh, I'm not ready for this.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
I know I generally don't like talking on the phone
very much, but when I when I'm feeling it, I'll
do it.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Do you ever only audio call or is it always accompanied?
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Oh? Yeah, no, I just I hadn't said him for
a while, and I don't know. I kind of was
missing him.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
It was a special treat.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
It's so human, it's so nice. Well, we have to
ask because everyone's wondering, Scott, did you pick up.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
No, oh no, no, no, of course not. I don't
remember what state I was in, but it wasn't a
state fit to face.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Oh lord.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
And I have to say I fully honor that if
I was FaceTime me, I would have picked up holy crap,
like you gotta be ready.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I equally, I guess panicked when somebody texts right back,
because I'm always like wait, wait, wait, no, no, that
was a text.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Then you're like, wait, this doesn't mean we're in a conversation,
because this is a text that stresses me out, That
stresses me out. I, as an introvert, really appreciate you
going full throttle FaceTime.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I think that's I'm just only sorry that Scott didn't
pick up.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
No. Actually, I honor Scott. And also I always thought
it was an extrovert like Myers Briggs in the nineties.
I took it.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
You're an E.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
I don't know the only one I members E.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
But I really think now I'm an introvert that like
has to be alone all the time, and then I
can have energy to be out in the world a
little bit, and then.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
I go back into my fetal position on my couch.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
Listen, I live a glamorous life, like glamorous listen.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I completely agree with that, because I have come to
see my day as like a bucket. Of course, or
I guess I should see it as a battery. I'll
look at as a battery, and so each each task,
actually I'll look at it at no.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
A bucket of batteries.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
A bucket of batteries.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
That's the visual.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Buckets and batteries, two things that are easy to divide up,
very easy.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
And so with each task, a battery is taken out.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Oh I like that.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
And so it's like, I cannot devote this many batteries
to this task because I see how it's going to
deplete my bucket. And so you have to be so
choosy with what you're giving your batteries. So, Scott, you
were kind of making fun of the battery bucket analogy,
but in fact it makes a lot of sense to
a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I agree completely, I stand correct it.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Now.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
I am extra honored to Scott that he didn't pick
up I take. I deplete a lot of battery, I
really do. I'm very aware that I can deplete battery.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
As Scott, buddy, I don't.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Know this battery is going swiftly down. We're running out
of charge. Guys.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Now before you lose your charge, I have to get
on the subject of something you love.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
Okay, I love Law and Order criminalin Intent not the
original Law and Order. I mean I love the original.
I mean it's honorable, but like criminal Intent is my jam.
And what's weird about it is when I started watching
it because I was a Law and Order whore. At first,
I hated it because I thought that Vincent Dinofrio's character,
(14:43):
the way it was written was that he was the
smart one, and then Catherine Irby was sort of like
always following along, and so at first.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
I was like, oh, this is But I watched it
for a while and then I was on tour with
the Second City and I had a dream and in
the morning I was like, I love that show. I mean,
I don't know, and I was like, Vincent to Frio
is the man. This is so embarrassing. Oh God, we're
gonna cut this bits. So I was like, oh, maybe
I'll give it another chance. And then I loved it.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Wait what was the dream?
Speaker 4 (15:13):
I don't know. I was sort of like romantical, I
wouldn't say lustful.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I understand.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yeah, I was more love than less.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
You know, sometimes you have a dream and you're like, oh, like,
I had a dream about Kim Kardashian the other night,
which is just embarrassing.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
I want to hear that offline.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
No it's nothing, No, it's was it a lustful dream
about Kim Kardashian.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
I wish that it were well, I wish that it happened,
but instead I'm just left with oh. At like two
pm the next day, I was like, wait a minute.
Scrolling through whatever we scrawl, I was like, oh wait,
Kim Kardashian was my dream. And I don't remember the specifics.
I didn't know if it was something like that.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
No, No, it was like a full on like we
were Gavin and yeah. It was like so silly.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I mean, oh, okay, but that's a lovely dream, but.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
It is embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
I think that there might be a segment of our listeners,
like if we were to fill up a bucket, some
fraction of those listeners might not be familiar with Law
and Order criminal intent. Oh sure, so context here, law
and Order obviously crime show has been going forever and
ever forever.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Yeah, Dick Wolf, Dick Wolf.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Great brood, just solving crimes, catching bad guys, prosecuting them.
Then they start spinning them off, right, And there's different types,
and I think criminal intent may have been the third one.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
It was the third one.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Yeah, And Vincentinafrio is the star. And you said he's
sort of like a genius to what makes law and
order criminal intent different from the others is what I'm
sort of getting it.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
Okay, Well, so criminal intent is like the major case squad,
not the minor kids.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Right, it's not a regular murder. The other law and
orders they do murders, those don't.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Count, that's right. These are major murders.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
That's right, really important murders.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
So Kim Kardashian gets murdered, that's gonna be on criminal intent.
I get murdered regular law and artist. Yeah, so it's
the major case unit.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Yeah you hear that famous guy who does all the interests.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yes, yes, they're two equally important. Yeah, divisions or whatever.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
That's diffic Yeah, it's like certain heinous crimes in New
York are solved by the major crates. Like, honestly, I
can't even I can't even do it, even though I've
heard it at bazillion times.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
What year did Criminal Intent debut?
Speaker 4 (17:32):
I'm so unprepared. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
It came out in two thousand and one. I just
checked and it ran for ten seasons.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Although I know that Vincent Zanafre he wasn't he replaced
at some point by someone worse? Sorry, wow, I'm just
such a Dinofrio fan. So whoever replaced him was probably,
in my mind, not as good, It's all I'm saying.
But I'm sure very good in their own right.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
Okay, that's a lot of Hollywood doubles speak diplomas, so
going on there, Like when I met him, I know
that it was exhausting schedule and stuff, and I think
its season three or four.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Then they start splitting like.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Wait, Abby, I have to ask something, and I apologize
if I'm just a bonehead, But did you just mention
you met him?
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Yeah, So everybody I know knows that I'm like in
love with Vincent de Noo.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
So I did that show work in progress and in
the second season, one of my best friends was a
writer and she was like, well, I think it'd be
really funny if we were having a flashback, And she's like,
and we'll just write and Vincent d'onofrie. I'm like, yeah,
but he'll never do it, and she was like, you
don't know that, We'll just write it. So she wrote
it and we had this scene and it was like
ha ha, and then he said, yeah, Abby, I.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Told you it was bonehead.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
So you got to shoot with this guy that you'd
been admiring from afar for so long.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Were you beside yourself?
Speaker 4 (18:43):
I was beside myself and he played his character in
Criminal Intent.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Oh my goodness, Okay, so this is just itway wass bonkers.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
I got to talk with him that I was so nervous.
He was very kind to me. He was very kind
to everybody.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Had you made your love of the show clear to him?
Speaker 6 (18:56):
Yeah, So my partner in the show had met Vincent
years and years ago, and so she wrote a beautiful
letter just explaining like we have this idea and I
love you to be here.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Abby would really love you to be here. She's a
massive fan of yours and a criminal intense. So like,
he came in and it was nuts.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
It's every everything about it is nuts.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
That is fantastic.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Now, I'm glad I've asked you to talk about because
it is nuts.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
It is nuts.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Not only did you get to meet someone that you'd
admired from Afar for so long, you got to work
with him. And not only did you get to work
with him, you got to write scenes where he was
playing the very character that you admired for so.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Long, and we kissed in the show. Yeah, it was hilarious.
I mean it was.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Every single piece.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Can I try doing this with like Han Solo? Do
you think that it would work?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
All I need to do is create and star in
a critically acclaimed show, and then in the second season,
I'll get Harrison Ford to play Han Solo and.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Maybe give me a kiss, and then you're gonna lean it.
Maybe I'm gonna lean it.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Absolutely, Baby, You've seen it happen before. It happened to
a We.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Just talked about it so abby.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
I'm still fascinated because Cards on the Table. I am
a Law and Order fan. I'm specifically an sv mostly
because of my wife Vanessa is an SVU super fan
and she's seen every single episode.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
And the thing about SVU, I had a more complicated.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Relationship with it when I was a younger man, because
it was quite common that I would head back home
and As a younger man, I might have been in
maybe let's call it a romantic mood, and I would
come home and I was so excited to see my girlfriend,
maybe my young wife.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
I open the door and what's on?
Speaker 3 (20:39):
But SVU and Stabler's like, I can't believe anyone would
do that to a child. And I'm like, well great,
this is just all romance, says has evacuated the building.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
There's no chance, zero chance.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
And I want to make very clear, this is not
something that happened like one sen is a funny story.
It happened almost every single night. Sbu was the bane
of my existence for quite a long time. So now
that I'm an older man, I'm in a romantic mood
a lot less often, sure, And I've become a fan
of the program myself. I don't dislike criminal intent. I'm
(21:19):
just I'm just fascinated by why that's the one? Wasn't
this dream? Is it Danafrio's performance, Like, yeah, oh, don't
you see the crime happen or something you do?
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Yeah, It's it's totally different.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
You see the crime, and then you see the detectives
get called to it, and then you see the noo
Frio smell on the fingertips, going, oh they have coffee.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
That's a bit okay. You don't see the courtroom.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Really, no, there's no court, there's no trial. It's just
Anofrio catching the bad guy or an herbie.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Yeah, they're captain the back.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
What do you think it is about that that appeals
to you so dearly?
Speaker 6 (21:55):
You know, honestly, I've been thinking about like a group
of privileged and I'm white, and a lot of the
TV that was then and is now shows the cops
in a really positive light, right, and their heroes. You know,
I still love cop shows, and I think as a society,
like we need to look at that and like how
police are portrayed on TV and how that affects us.
So I think I'm very much still under that halo,
(22:18):
and I'm not proud of that. But I really think
there's something about like smart detectives that really make me
feel better.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Do you mean that they're out there in the world.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
No, Like all the shows that.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
I love, you're like, oh, these are really good cops
solving it. No other cops would catch this. So like,
I don't know how much I really feel like they
really are like that in real life.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yeah, it's like justice, justice being a true way because
in criminal intent, especially you see who.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Did it, you saw how heinous the you know you's
got it coming right.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
There's no ambiguity, none, none. You're not relying on potentially
tainted evidence or some my witness has gotten it wrong.
We saw with our own eyes that guy stab that
other guy in such a way that it was deserving
it being elevated to the Major Crimes Unit.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Right.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Wow, Okay, I want that as my outgoing message that
you just.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I don't know, it was just.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Compassion speech, and I think you kind of summed up.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Like what it is.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
That's so well, I'm not gonna sit here and defend
the criminals, Matt Robert, what's his name, Bobby, Bobby, Bobby,
or I'm not going to defend anyone that Bobby Goran
put away.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Bad guys get what bad guys deserve.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Hey, Ellie, so you are I think it's fair to
say pretty successful actress. If you were in Abby's shoes
and you got to pick one not not an actor,
but a character or both. If you got to pick
a character and then get that actor to play that
character in a scene with with you in one of
(24:04):
your projects. I said, Hans Solo, that was a lie.
It would be Indiana Jones. I would love to be
in a scene with Indiana Jones.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Well, this is an interesting question. Abby chose this character
because it also made sense for the show that she created,
so it's a very specific.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Don't over complicate it. The one that you're most excited
to be in a scene with, Okay.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Well I guess that would be Freulein Maria. Oh my gosh, yes,
from Sound of Music. Well, you said don't over complicate it,
so that would be the answer because it meant so
much to my child.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yes, so you want to get d Julie Andrews.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Yeah, but not Julie Andrews.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
No, No, she's playing She's only fro line Maria. Do
you guys want to know a secret?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
You want to know a secret? Sound of Music? Never
seen it, have you?
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Abby?
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (24:54):
I saw it in the theater when I was very young.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
And the Christopher character hubbub hubb but I love him
like like actual habbahaba.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
That love whis reel And then they walk through the
Mountain's got lots of steps, lots of steps.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Scott Scott knows there's no shortage of movies that I
have not seen.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Oh me too, Tons, and I get ripped. I've never
seen Caddyshack. People like, you've never seen.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
Caddy Abby, join, I am ripped all the time. People like,
how can you call yourself?
Speaker 4 (25:22):
I'm like, I don't. I call myself an idiot yourself and.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I say that too. But that's one of the few
classics I have seen. And I am surprised Scott that
you haven't seen it. You would like it?
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Yeah, it's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Well, I guess that we all have our marching order
for tonight. I'm I'm gonna watch the Sound of Music,
Ellie's gonna watch Criminal Intent, and Abby, you're gonna watch
Caddy Shack.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Can I pick another one?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Got to be Caddy Shack.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
I'm pretty sure I'm gonna fail in the assignment. I
just want to let you know.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Okay, fair enough, fair enough?
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Will you stick around with us? Abby?
Speaker 3 (25:52):
We have a quick game we like to play with
our guests. Of course, awesome, Thank you so much to
stick around.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
For Love It or Load the Oh, and we're back.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
We're Babybby back and nany oh, baby Abby.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
We have a game called Love It or Load It? Okay,
we love to play with our guests, and basically we're
gonna toss some subjects at you and we want you
to answer if you love that thing or loathe that thing. Now,
let it be clear, there is no in between. Okay,
you can't be lukewarm about something. You have to either
love it or loath it. And furthermore, tell us why
(26:40):
oh whoa? Okay, we're making you pick a side.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Love it or load it?
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Deep dish pizza, loath it?
Speaker 1 (26:48):
What Chicago resident loads deep dish pizza?
Speaker 6 (26:52):
Yeah? I gotta say most people I know we don't
eat deep just pizza. It's like eating like fifteen pieces
of bread and a lot of cheese.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
It's pretty gross.
Speaker 6 (27:01):
There's one place that has sort of deep dish and
it's very delicious, but that's like once.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
A year thing.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
I don't disagree. It's too greasy. I don't mean that
from a health perspective. It's just unenjoyable.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Yeah, it's like four layers of cardboard. Yep, yeah, too much?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
All right, Okay, well that was the right answer.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Well I love it.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Well keep us something you weren't asked.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
How about a healthier option, abby, love it or loath it. Almonds, Ah,
hate them, hate them.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
Yeah, you know, first of all as a fat person,
like people will just have six almonds and it'll full
your advertise. And so many people who offered me almonds,
like what you like, and it's just so insulty and
I hate almonds. And my show we came up with
this idea like that, my bully coworker gave me this
big judg of almonds so.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
I'd lose weight and be healthy. I hate them on
a lot of levels.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
You know that really horrible like pink hand soap that
you get in public bathrooms.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
That are at any public bathroom.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Yeah, yeah, and it smells like almonds.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
That adds it's like, but yeah, a lot of it's
the societal normative thing about people have to be skinny.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
If you're not skinny, you have no work.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
That's easy.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Love them.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
That was just a downhill in a good way, in
picking up speed kind of way.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Abby Love it or loath it. The television show Daredevil,
Vincent Genofrio is the villain.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Oh I love it. I'm not a real Marble fan.
It's just that kind of my jam. So I was like, wait,
what is this? Dare Devil?
Speaker 6 (28:30):
And I watched it, and I'm not totally caught up,
but like, ooh, dude, wear in that white suit so
good and I love it.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
I just love it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Vincent Diinofrio plays the villain, so he wears a very
fun white suits and.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
He's just like, oh, I like this, and he's just
you know, he's just hurting.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
I've got another.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
I've got another deep cut, and this one's inspired by
blown order criminal intent.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
What about the Catherine Herbie vehicle? What about Bob Oh?
My god? Does it fit into the Caddyshack category?
Speaker 4 (29:05):
That's with Richard Dreyfus, right, he's this psychiatrist.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Yes, yes, that's exactly right.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
I remember liking it. I've not rewatched it, so you
gotta love it. No, no, loath it. And also I
hate Richard Dreyfus. Oh God, I do nothing but great
things from my prayer. You guys, I do nothing but good.
Oh yeah, why do you love Chicago? Because you might
not work again?
Speaker 2 (29:25):
I know.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
This is definitely my favorite loving alone that of all
the time. What about Bob Oh, Yeah, that old movie.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
I think I saw it. I liked it, so you
love it? Then no, load it hate it?
Speaker 4 (29:38):
But I also have to say.
Speaker 6 (29:39):
If I saw it in the nineties and I have
had thirty years to watch it again, I haven't.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
I think that means I don't love it.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I think that says it all. Yeah, that's exactly right.
That's what you're going to know exactly what your answer is,
love it or loath that?
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Abby?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Bud Light?
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Ah, loathed? You got it on Miller?
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Like baby Miller Light. What is the difference?
Speaker 4 (29:59):
Oh, have you.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
Come on?
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Have you tasted them? I know they're both like like beers,
but I love Miller like the taste. Oh yeah, so good.
Love Miller Light. I just don't like bud Light.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Yeah yeah, all right, it's Miller. So it's a loathing
of bud Light.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Love it.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
We should have just said Miller because then you would
have loved it.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Oh you're like, oh yeah, this tastes everything, all right?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Last one, last one, Abby, dear.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
I think they're quite beautiful. I love them.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Oh do you know you have to be more over?
Speaker 1 (30:36):
No, get it, dough a dear.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
Good.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
That is a drop of golden So.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
He was looking for a sound of music reference and
that's what he came up with.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Oh my gosh, that is so great.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I was like in a Sound of Music reference and
came up with the best one ever. Oh my gosh, Dear,
that was great.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
I was.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
I'm glad that you love, dear Abba. You won the game,
You won the gonna, you won the game.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
You got them all right.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
We've tried to trick you because they were five loads
and one love, but you got them all right, every
single one A plus.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Actually that's more love than usual, So I'm happy. This
is so fun, really really fun.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
We can't thank you enough for being on our podcast.
It is such a delight talking with you same here,
and I hope that you come back if you want.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
I would love it, but we would.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
I would love to speak another five teen hours.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Yes, thank you, thanks for listening to Born to Love.
We'll be back next week with brand new things that
we love.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
We want to hear from you. Leave us a review
in Apple Podcasts and tell us what you love. We
might even ask one of our guests in an upcoming love.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
It or Load it.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Born to Love is hosted and created by Eli Kemper
and Scott Eckert.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Our executive producer is Aaron Coffman. Our producers are Sheena
Ozaki and Zoe Danklab.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Born to Love is part of Will Ferrell's Big Money
Play's Network in collaboration with iHeart Podcasts. Special thanks to
Hans Sunny.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Rachel Kaplan and Adrianna Cassiano
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Michael Fails, Alex Korl, and Baheed Frazier
No no, no, no no.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Pall to twenty twenty four, the New Year, Welcome twenty
twenty four, Goodbye twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Twenty three is in the rear view mirror. I'm Scott Eckert,
I'm Ellie Kemper.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
This is our podcast Born to Love. Every week and
every New Year, we have a guest on to talk
about something that they love. It can be an interest,
a hobby, anything in the world, Scott. And today we
have Abby mcinnaney. We are so excited to talk with
her today. She is going to be talking with us
(00:44):
today about law and order.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Criminal intent, not SVU, Nope, my law on I s
you fans out there, not the original. It's criminal intent
specifically Abby, good friend of mine, hilarious person.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Excited to chat with her. But before we get to that, inner, Ellie,
do you have a new Year love for us?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I have a New Year Love, Scott, that actually stretches
back to the old year, because make new years, but
keep the old one is silver and yet the other
is gold. Okay, so I inner change the words.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Is that a thing?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Did you?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yes, it's about friends. It's a little ditty about friends.
Make new friends, but keep the old one is silver
and the other's gold. I don't know why you have
to rank your friends or your years for that matter.
All I know is this, This was a love I
experienced several days ago, so technically in twenty.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Twenty three ancient history rear view mirror, but.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
It does stretch into the new year because it is
an abiding love. Scott, I love the Big Apple Circus.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Oh my god, Ellie, I'm absolutely thrilled you said that
I love circuses.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Do you just went tell me about.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
It, Scott, I went to a circus. I remember going
to a circus when I was I think in high school.
A circus came to Saint Louis. Would it have been
Barnum and Bailey?
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Does that?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Probably?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I mean, yeah, the guy with a mustache and the
train cars pulled up. There was cruelty to animals everywhere.
I mean, I'm sure that you had a lot of
cotton candy and threw some peanuts on the floor and
had the time of your life, Ellie.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
But I'm not sure. Probably Barnum and Bailey would be
my I think.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
It was because I should be upfront about this, that's
the only like big circus experience I've had, and I
clearly scarcely remember it. Probably popped up on cotton candy.
My memory is blurred. But so I have not been
to a large scale circus that I clearly remember, Scott.
For those of you, for our listeners who aren't familiar,
(02:51):
the Big Apple Circus is a circus. I believe it's
a different family every year that comes that that uh
is under the umbrella the Big Apple Circus. It's a
circus that takes place in a little park right outside
Lincoln Center in New York City. Thus Big Apple. Because
it's in the Big Apple, it seats probably I would
(03:12):
say about I'm gonna guess six hundred people maybe this tent.
It is a two hour show with intermission. It is
child friendly. Trust me when I say there is no
bad seat in the house, Scott. The physical feats I
witnessed at the Big Apple Circus had my jaw dropped
(03:33):
to the floor. And I am in no way exaggerating.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
So is this primarily like an acrobatic circus like we've talked,
you know, people doing flips and twists and contortionists and
stuff like, what are the physical feats that so amazed you?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Ellie? You are correct.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
There are no animals involved.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Okay, yes, no, that's up and they're not anymore. They don't.
That's not a cool thing. I guess no, it's not.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
And also it would be wildly dangerous because I just
you how small the ring is. You'd have lions mauling people.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
We can't have it.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
We definitely don't want that.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Nobody wants it. What people want, Scott is a man
doing a flip on a tightrope.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I love flips on type ropes.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yes, well, people want is a grown person riding a
bicycle in a basket that has no bottom and is
being lifted off the floor.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
That's what people want, That's exactly.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
But see, the thing is that there isn't a single
person in that tent in the big Top who knew
that's what they wanted until they saw that basket bicyclist.
And as soon as they saw that basket bicyclist, a
need had been filled in their soul. They're like, yes, yes,
this is what I always wanted.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yep, it's the beauty of it.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
It's you.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Look, I went for the first time last year and
I didn't know what I was in for. I thought
I'm doing this for my kids, of course, I'm they
all love it. It's for children. When I tell you,
my younger child fell asleep last year and I almost
I mean I was. I lost a lot of respect
for him that day because the fact that you could
sleep through the Big Apple Circus is on. I can't
(05:16):
comprehend it.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Were they overwhelmed with some was the viral load through
the roof? That's the only possibly. Were they chloroformed or drugged?
Were they instead of apple juice just drinking Nikewell, because
those are the only reasons that I could come up
with for how anyone could sleep through a circus like that.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Unbelievable, Right, Scott, have you been to I think you
in Minnesota. I feel like you've been to a large
scale So.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Look, I love every kind of circus. I'm on board
for minus the cruelty to animal stuff. But I wish
that there was a way to do it humanly because
I also like animals. I like animals performing and doing things.
I've been to those old school circuses. I went to
was a circus in New York. I don't think it
was the Big Apple Circus because it was in like
the Brooklyn Arena where the Brooklyn Nets play and they
(06:04):
have wow motorbikes and stuff. It was like one of
the It was like Barnum and Bailear.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
It was wild.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
It was like a big, big production. And then I
have been to over the years a whole bunch of
those circusole like oh, French circuses or French inspired circuses,
and and each and every one of them I adore.
I love events where they're just trying to entertain me, and.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I don't I don't.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
I don't want to cast dispersions on any of the
people involved with any of these circuses. I don't know
if I'm playing into stereotypes, but those people will do
absolutely anything to get you to smile. They will risk
their lives. They will they will be suspended in baskets.
They've got like a strong man who's lifting like four
(06:54):
very petite women at the same time.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, I mean, it's one thing when you about it.
It's one thing when you see it on YouTube. It
is quite another to see it in person. Scott, I
was wearing a mask just because, for any number of reasons,
there's lots of stuff going around.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
My mask fell off.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
My face because you were so shocked the speed.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
And the like the momentum or whatever of my jaw
dropping flipped the mask off my face. That's how shocked
I was. There was they had three bodybuilders who were
holding each other up in like slow motion, you know,
and they kept holding different poses. And when as someone
who tries to do five push ups every day just
to remain you know, firm, I can't. I'm I feel like,
(07:42):
I mean, they're equal.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I think the operative word there is tries. When you
said you try to do five push ups every day?
Is that like you had that as a goal and
some days you just skip? Or is it each and
every day you say to yourself, I'm gonna get through five,
and most days you stop at three.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
It's so funny. Like most things, it's just getting yourself
to do it. Let me be clear, when I set
my mind to it, I can do five, no problem.
It's just having to get on the floor and do them.
I'm very strong, so I can speak to how difficult
holding another man in your like palm is.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I know exactly what you mean.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
There.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I'll tell you this and then we'll move on. There
was one feat involving ping pong balls where the guy started.
He started off with juggling them. Then the next thing
I know, he's juggling them in his mouth like he's
setting out ping pong balls. He's juggling them in his mouth.
There's no other way to describe it.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
He was like y's cycling through. That's what I meant.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I was so boneheaded and trying to come up with
examples of the links they'll go to to entertain people.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
But that's the perfect example.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
A man trained himself to juggle with his mouth just
for my amusement, and I love it.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Like did that take?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Do you think that took?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Do you think that a skilled circus performer like that
that once you get the knack for doing bizarre things,
you can learn a new bizarre thing relatively easily? Or
is it instead the case that in a French village
there's just like an artisan who teaches young children to
juggle ping pong balls, right, and.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
It takes fifteen years?
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Right?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I wish I knew.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Which would you prefer?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I don't know which I prefer.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I don't know either. And it's crazy to me that
you can spend so much time on nothing. And then
I look over and this person has mastered this unusual skill,
and it's like, what am I doing with my life anyway?
Scott speaking of great lives and mastering skills.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Masterful talent.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
My friend Abby mcinnaaney one of the funniest people that
I have ever met. Most recently, she was on a
little show called and Just Like That. Yeah, she's an actress,
she is a writer, she is a show creator. One
of my favorite shows of all time is the show
that she created in starred in on Showtime called Work
in Progress.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
She's also well known in the Chicago improv community. Abbi
mcananey here today to talk to us, as we said before,
about her love of law and order, criminal intent and Scott,
I just.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Want to mention we recorded this lovely conversation with Abby
months ago, but because of the actor's strike, we were
unable to release it until now. I could not be
more thrilled that the world gets to hear it now.
I hadn't met Abby before this, and it was such
everything you say. I second, she is a pleasure, a delight.
When we come back, join us with Abby mcinnaney talking
(10:50):
about law and order, criminal intent, love.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
No, no, no, no, that's the extent.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
I love a song.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I love he singing Borne too, like a little scratchy,
a little heavy metally.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Welcome back to Born to Love.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
We have our guest, Abby mcnaney with us.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Thank you for coming, Abby, you for coom.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
You are so welcome. And Ellie, I'm so happy to
be you and Scott. I'd come anywhere you invite me to,
but you just never call.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I'm a texting kind of guy, Abby, I only tell.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
You are You're a texting kind of goal. That's right.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I'm trying to remember the exact context. I think I
sent you a text and like thirty seconds later, my
phone FaceTime alert. Oh yeah, Abby, yeah, jump right to
the FaceTime. I was like, oh, I'm not ready for this.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
I know I generally don't like talking on the phone
very much, but when I when I'm feeling it, I'll
do it.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Do you ever only audio call or is it always accompanied?
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Oh? Yeah, no, I just I hadn't said him for
a while, and I don't know. I kind of was
missing him.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
It was a special treat.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
It's so human, it's so nice. Well, we have to
ask because everyone's wondering, Scott, did you pick up.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
No, oh no, no, no, of course not. I don't
remember what state I was in, but it wasn't a
state fit to face.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Oh lord.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
And I have to say I fully honor that if
I was FaceTime me, I would have picked up holy crap,
like you gotta be ready.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I equally, I guess panicked when somebody texts right back,
because I'm always like wait, wait, wait, no, no, that
was a text.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Then you're like, wait, this doesn't mean we're in a conversation,
because this is a text that stresses me out, That
stresses me out. I, as an introvert, really appreciate you
going full throttle FaceTime.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I think that's I'm just only sorry that Scott didn't
pick up.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
No. Actually, I honor Scott. And also I always thought
it was an extrovert like Myers Briggs in the nineties.
I took it.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
You're an E.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
I don't know the only one I members E.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
But I really think now I'm an introvert that like
has to be alone all the time, and then I
can have energy to be out in the world a
little bit, and then.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
I go back into my fetal position on my couch.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
Listen, I live a glamorous life, like glamorous listen.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I completely agree with that, because I have come to
see my day as like a bucket. Of course, or
I guess I should see it as a battery. I'll
look at as a battery, and so each each task,
actually I'll look at it at no.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
A bucket of batteries.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
A bucket of batteries.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
That's the visual.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Buckets and batteries, two things that are easy to divide up,
very easy.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
And so with each task, a battery is taken out.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Oh I like that.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
And so it's like, I cannot devote this many batteries
to this task because I see how it's going to
deplete my bucket. And so you have to be so
choosy with what you're giving your batteries. So, Scott, you
were kind of making fun of the battery bucket analogy,
but in fact it makes a lot of sense to
a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I agree completely, I stand correct it.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Now.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
I am extra honored to Scott that he didn't pick
up I take. I deplete a lot of battery, I
really do. I'm very aware that I can deplete battery.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
As Scott, buddy, I don't.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Know this battery is going swiftly down. We're running out
of charge. Guys.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Now before you lose your charge, I have to get
on the subject of something you love.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
Okay, I love Law and Order criminalin Intent not the
original Law and Order. I mean I love the original.
I mean it's honorable, but like criminal Intent is my jam.
And what's weird about it is when I started watching
it because I was a Law and Order whore. At first,
I hated it because I thought that Vincent Dinofrio's character,
(14:43):
the way it was written was that he was the
smart one, and then Catherine Irby was sort of like
always following along, and so at first.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
I was like, oh, this is But I watched it
for a while and then I was on tour with
the Second City and I had a dream and in
the morning I was like, I love that show. I mean,
I don't know, and I was like, Vincent to Frio
is the man. This is so embarrassing. Oh God, we're
gonna cut this bits. So I was like, oh, maybe
I'll give it another chance. And then I loved it.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Wait what was the dream?
Speaker 4 (15:13):
I don't know. I was sort of like romantical, I
wouldn't say lustful.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I understand.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yeah, I was more love than less.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
You know, sometimes you have a dream and you're like, oh, like,
I had a dream about Kim Kardashian the other night,
which is just embarrassing.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
I want to hear that offline.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
No it's nothing, No, it's was it a lustful dream
about Kim Kardashian.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
I wish that it were well, I wish that it happened,
but instead I'm just left with oh. At like two
pm the next day, I was like, wait a minute.
Scrolling through whatever we scrawl, I was like, oh wait,
Kim Kardashian was my dream. And I don't remember the specifics.
I didn't know if it was something like that.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
No, No, it was like a full on like we
were Gavin and yeah. It was like so silly.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I mean, oh, okay, but that's a lovely dream, but.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
It is embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
I think that there might be a segment of our listeners,
like if we were to fill up a bucket, some
fraction of those listeners might not be familiar with Law
and Order criminal intent. Oh sure, so context here, law
and Order obviously crime show has been going forever and
ever forever.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Yeah, Dick Wolf, Dick Wolf.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Great brood, just solving crimes, catching bad guys, prosecuting them.
Then they start spinning them off, right, And there's different types,
and I think criminal intent may have been the third one.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
It was the third one.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Yeah, And Vincentinafrio is the star. And you said he's
sort of like a genius to what makes law and
order criminal intent different from the others is what I'm
sort of getting it.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
Okay, Well, so criminal intent is like the major case squad,
not the minor kids.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Right, it's not a regular murder. The other law and
orders they do murders, those don't.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Count, that's right. These are major murders.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
That's right, really important murders.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
So Kim Kardashian gets murdered, that's gonna be on criminal intent.
I get murdered regular law and artist. Yeah, so it's
the major case unit.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Yeah you hear that famous guy who does all the interests.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yes, yes, they're two equally important. Yeah, divisions or whatever.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
That's diffic Yeah, it's like certain heinous crimes in New
York are solved by the major crates. Like, honestly, I
can't even I can't even do it, even though I've
heard it at bazillion times.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
What year did Criminal Intent debut?
Speaker 4 (17:32):
I'm so unprepared. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
It came out in two thousand and one. I just
checked and it ran for ten seasons.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Although I know that Vincent Zanafre he wasn't he replaced
at some point by someone worse? Sorry, wow, I'm just
such a Dinofrio fan. So whoever replaced him was probably,
in my mind, not as good, It's all I'm saying.
But I'm sure very good in their own right.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
Okay, that's a lot of Hollywood doubles speak diplomas, so
going on there, Like when I met him, I know
that it was exhausting schedule and stuff, and I think
its season three or four.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Then they start splitting like.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Wait, Abby, I have to ask something, and I apologize
if I'm just a bonehead, But did you just mention
you met him?
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Yeah, So everybody I know knows that I'm like in
love with Vincent de Noo.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
So I did that show work in progress and in
the second season, one of my best friends was a
writer and she was like, well, I think it'd be
really funny if we were having a flashback, And she's like,
and we'll just write and Vincent d'onofrie. I'm like, yeah,
but he'll never do it, and she was like, you
don't know that, We'll just write it. So she wrote
it and we had this scene and it was like
ha ha, and then he said, yeah, Abby, I.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Told you it was bonehead.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
So you got to shoot with this guy that you'd
been admiring from afar for so long.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Were you beside yourself?
Speaker 4 (18:43):
I was beside myself and he played his character in
Criminal Intent.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Oh my goodness, Okay, so this is just itway wass bonkers.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
I got to talk with him that I was so nervous.
He was very kind to me. He was very kind
to everybody.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Had you made your love of the show clear to him?
Speaker 6 (18:56):
Yeah, So my partner in the show had met Vincent
years and years ago, and so she wrote a beautiful
letter just explaining like we have this idea and I
love you to be here.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Abby would really love you to be here. She's a
massive fan of yours and a criminal intense. So like,
he came in and it was nuts.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
It's every everything about it is nuts.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
That is fantastic.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Now, I'm glad I've asked you to talk about because
it is nuts.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
It is nuts.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Not only did you get to meet someone that you'd
admired from Afar for so long, you got to work
with him. And not only did you get to work
with him, you got to write scenes where he was
playing the very character that you admired for so.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Long, and we kissed in the show. Yeah, it was hilarious.
I mean it was.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Every single piece.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Can I try doing this with like Han Solo? Do
you think that it would work?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
All I need to do is create and star in
a critically acclaimed show, and then in the second season,
I'll get Harrison Ford to play Han Solo and.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Maybe give me a kiss, and then you're gonna lean it.
Maybe I'm gonna lean it.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Absolutely, Baby, You've seen it happen before. It happened to
a We.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Just talked about it so abby.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
I'm still fascinated because Cards on the Table. I am
a Law and Order fan. I'm specifically an sv mostly
because of my wife Vanessa is an SVU super fan
and she's seen every single episode.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
And the thing about SVU, I had a more complicated.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Relationship with it when I was a younger man, because
it was quite common that I would head back home
and As a younger man, I might have been in
maybe let's call it a romantic mood, and I would
come home and I was so excited to see my girlfriend,
maybe my young wife.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
I open the door and what's on?
Speaker 3 (20:39):
But SVU and Stabler's like, I can't believe anyone would
do that to a child. And I'm like, well great,
this is just all romance, says has evacuated the building.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
There's no chance, zero chance.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
And I want to make very clear, this is not
something that happened like one sen is a funny story.
It happened almost every single night. Sbu was the bane
of my existence for quite a long time. So now
that I'm an older man, I'm in a romantic mood
a lot less often, sure, And I've become a fan
of the program myself. I don't dislike criminal intent. I'm
(21:19):
just I'm just fascinated by why that's the one? Wasn't
this dream? Is it Danafrio's performance, Like, yeah, oh, don't
you see the crime happen or something you do?
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Yeah, It's it's totally different.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
You see the crime, and then you see the detectives
get called to it, and then you see the noo
Frio smell on the fingertips, going, oh they have coffee.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
That's a bit okay. You don't see the courtroom.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Really, no, there's no court, there's no trial. It's just
Anofrio catching the bad guy or an herbie.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Yeah, they're captain the back.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
What do you think it is about that that appeals
to you so dearly?
Speaker 6 (21:55):
You know, honestly, I've been thinking about like a group
of privileged and I'm white, and a lot of the
TV that was then and is now shows the cops
in a really positive light, right, and their heroes. You know,
I still love cop shows, and I think as a society,
like we need to look at that and like how
police are portrayed on TV and how that affects us.
So I think I'm very much still under that halo,
(22:18):
and I'm not proud of that. But I really think
there's something about like smart detectives that really make me
feel better.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Do you mean that they're out there in the world.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
No, Like all the shows that.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
I love, you're like, oh, these are really good cops
solving it. No other cops would catch this. So like,
I don't know how much I really feel like they
really are like that in real life.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yeah, it's like justice, justice being a true way because
in criminal intent, especially you see who.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Did it, you saw how heinous the you know you's
got it coming right.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
There's no ambiguity, none, none. You're not relying on potentially
tainted evidence or some my witness has gotten it wrong.
We saw with our own eyes that guy stab that
other guy in such a way that it was deserving
it being elevated to the Major Crimes Unit.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Right.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Wow, Okay, I want that as my outgoing message that
you just.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I don't know, it was just.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Compassion speech, and I think you kind of summed up.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Like what it is.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
That's so well, I'm not gonna sit here and defend
the criminals, Matt Robert, what's his name, Bobby, Bobby, Bobby,
or I'm not going to defend anyone that Bobby Goran
put away.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Bad guys get what bad guys deserve.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Hey, Ellie, so you are I think it's fair to
say pretty successful actress. If you were in Abby's shoes
and you got to pick one not not an actor,
but a character or both. If you got to pick
a character and then get that actor to play that
character in a scene with with you in one of
(24:04):
your projects. I said, Hans Solo, that was a lie.
It would be Indiana Jones. I would love to be
in a scene with Indiana Jones.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Well, this is an interesting question. Abby chose this character
because it also made sense for the show that she created,
so it's a very specific.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Don't over complicate it. The one that you're most excited
to be in a scene with, Okay.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Well I guess that would be Freulein Maria. Oh my gosh, yes,
from Sound of Music. Well, you said don't over complicate it,
so that would be the answer because it meant so
much to my child.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yes, so you want to get d Julie Andrews.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Yeah, but not Julie Andrews.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
No, No, she's playing She's only fro line Maria. Do
you guys want to know a secret?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
You want to know a secret? Sound of Music? Never
seen it, have you?
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Abby?
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (24:54):
I saw it in the theater when I was very young.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
And the Christopher character hubbub hubb but I love him
like like actual habbahaba.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
That love whis reel And then they walk through the
Mountain's got lots of steps, lots of steps.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Scott Scott knows there's no shortage of movies that I
have not seen.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Oh me too, Tons, and I get ripped. I've never
seen Caddyshack. People like, you've never seen.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
Caddy Abby, join, I am ripped all the time. People like,
how can you call yourself?
Speaker 4 (25:22):
I'm like, I don't. I call myself an idiot yourself and.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I say that too. But that's one of the few
classics I have seen. And I am surprised Scott that
you haven't seen it. You would like it?
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Yeah, it's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Well, I guess that we all have our marching order
for tonight. I'm I'm gonna watch the Sound of Music,
Ellie's gonna watch Criminal Intent, and Abby, you're gonna watch
Caddy Shack.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Can I pick another one?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Got to be Caddy Shack.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
I'm pretty sure I'm gonna fail in the assignment. I
just want to let you know.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Okay, fair enough, fair enough?
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Will you stick around with us? Abby?
Speaker 3 (25:52):
We have a quick game we like to play with
our guests. Of course, awesome, Thank you so much to
stick around.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
For Love It or Load the Oh, and we're back.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
We're Babybby back and nany oh, baby Abby.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
We have a game called Love It or Load It? Okay,
we love to play with our guests, and basically we're
gonna toss some subjects at you and we want you
to answer if you love that thing or loathe that thing. Now,
let it be clear, there is no in between. Okay,
you can't be lukewarm about something. You have to either
love it or loath it. And furthermore, tell us why
(26:40):
oh whoa? Okay, we're making you pick a side.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Love it or load it?
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Deep dish pizza, loath it?
Speaker 1 (26:48):
What Chicago resident loads deep dish pizza?
Speaker 6 (26:52):
Yeah? I gotta say most people I know we don't
eat deep just pizza. It's like eating like fifteen pieces
of bread and a lot of cheese.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
It's pretty gross.
Speaker 6 (27:01):
There's one place that has sort of deep dish and
it's very delicious, but that's like once.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
A year thing.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
I don't disagree. It's too greasy. I don't mean that
from a health perspective. It's just unenjoyable.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Yeah, it's like four layers of cardboard. Yep, yeah, too much?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
All right, Okay, well that was the right answer.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Well I love it.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Well keep us something you weren't asked.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
How about a healthier option, abby, love it or loath it. Almonds, Ah,
hate them, hate them.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
Yeah, you know, first of all as a fat person,
like people will just have six almonds and it'll full
your advertise. And so many people who offered me almonds,
like what you like, and it's just so insulty and
I hate almonds. And my show we came up with
this idea like that, my bully coworker gave me this
big judg of almonds so.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
I'd lose weight and be healthy. I hate them on
a lot of levels.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
You know that really horrible like pink hand soap that
you get in public bathrooms.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
That are at any public bathroom.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Yeah, yeah, and it smells like almonds.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
That adds it's like, but yeah, a lot of it's
the societal normative thing about people have to be skinny.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
If you're not skinny, you have no work.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
That's easy.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Love them.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
That was just a downhill in a good way, in
picking up speed kind of way.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Abby Love it or loath it. The television show Daredevil,
Vincent Genofrio is the villain.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Oh I love it. I'm not a real Marble fan.
It's just that kind of my jam. So I was like, wait,
what is this? Dare Devil?
Speaker 6 (28:30):
And I watched it, and I'm not totally caught up,
but like, ooh, dude, wear in that white suit so
good and I love it.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
I just love it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Vincent Diinofrio plays the villain, so he wears a very
fun white suits and.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
He's just like, oh, I like this, and he's just
you know, he's just hurting.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
I've got another.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
I've got another deep cut, and this one's inspired by
blown order criminal intent.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
What about the Catherine Herbie vehicle? What about Bob Oh?
My god? Does it fit into the Caddyshack category?
Speaker 4 (29:05):
That's with Richard Dreyfus, right, he's this psychiatrist.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Yes, yes, that's exactly right.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
I remember liking it. I've not rewatched it, so you
gotta love it. No, no, loath it. And also I
hate Richard Dreyfus. Oh God, I do nothing but great
things from my prayer. You guys, I do nothing but good.
Oh yeah, why do you love Chicago? Because you might
not work again?
Speaker 2 (29:25):
I know.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
This is definitely my favorite loving alone that of all
the time. What about Bob Oh, Yeah, that old movie.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
I think I saw it. I liked it, so you
love it? Then no, load it hate it?
Speaker 4 (29:38):
But I also have to say.
Speaker 6 (29:39):
If I saw it in the nineties and I have
had thirty years to watch it again, I haven't.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
I think that means I don't love it.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I think that says it all. Yeah, that's exactly right.
That's what you're going to know exactly what your answer is,
love it or loath that?
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Abby?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Bud Light?
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Ah, loathed? You got it on Miller?
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Like baby Miller Light. What is the difference?
Speaker 4 (29:59):
Oh, have you.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
Come on?
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Have you tasted them? I know they're both like like beers,
but I love Miller like the taste. Oh yeah, so good.
Love Miller Light. I just don't like bud Light.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Yeah yeah, all right, it's Miller. So it's a loathing
of bud Light.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Love it.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
We should have just said Miller because then you would
have loved it.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Oh you're like, oh yeah, this tastes everything, all right?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Last one, last one, Abby, dear.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
I think they're quite beautiful. I love them.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Oh do you know you have to be more over?
Speaker 1 (30:36):
No, get it, dough a dear.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
Good.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
That is a drop of golden So.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
He was looking for a sound of music reference and
that's what he came up with.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Oh my gosh, that is so great.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I was like in a Sound of Music reference and
came up with the best one ever. Oh my gosh, Dear,
that was great.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
I was.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
I'm glad that you love, dear Abba. You won the game,
You won the gonna, you won the game.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
You got them all right.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
We've tried to trick you because they were five loads
and one love, but you got them all right, every
single one A plus.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Actually that's more love than usual, So I'm happy. This
is so fun, really really fun.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
We can't thank you enough for being on our podcast.
It is such a delight talking with you same here,
and I hope that you come back if you want.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
I would love it, but we would.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
I would love to speak another five teen hours.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Yes, thank you, thanks for listening to Born to Love.
We'll be back next week with brand new things that
we love.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
We want to hear from you. Leave us a review
in Apple Podcasts and tell us what you love. We
might even ask one of our guests in an upcoming love.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
It or Load it.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Born to Love is hosted and created by Eli Kemper
and Scott Eckert.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Our executive producer is Aaron Coffman. Our producers are Sheena
Ozaki and Zoe Danklab.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Born to Love is part of Will Ferrell's Big Money
Play's Network in collaboration with iHeart Podcasts. Special thanks to
Hans Sunny.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Rachel Kaplan and Adrianna Cassiano
Speaker 1 (32:07):
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