Episode 18 - feat. MsAshRocks

Welcome back! After a week off the team returns joined by Community Manager at Tiltify and Twitch Partner, MsAshRocks. The group talk about the very beginnings of their careers, the people who helped them the most, and paying that support forward. 

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to Boss Level, a podcast where we feature conversations
with guests who have leveled up bringing an experience boost
to the table. We have a very exciting guest this week.
We're going to be chatting with Miss Ash rocks. Um.
She is a Twitch partner and a community manager over
It Till to Fly. Uh so, I'm sure we're gonna
have a lot of fun questions for you today. How
are you doing today, Ash, I'm doing it great. Thank

(00:25):
you so much for having me. It's really hot outside
an through degrees, so I'm happy to be inside. Yes,
oh my goodness. And then I'm one of your co
host Hey, shady lady, and we have another wonderful co
host with us, Milady Confetti. How are you today, Confetti?
I'm all right hanging in there. I feel that. Um well,

(00:46):
miss Ash, why don't you introduce yourself a little bit?
Let us know how you got into content creation, how
long you've been doing this, maybe how you meandered on
over to community managing over it til to Fi too.
Oh my word, we got a long story every ready.
I'm buckled up, buckled up looking at us on the
same wave link. But hi, I miss Ash Rex I'm

(01:09):
a Twitch partner at Twitch Ambassador. I am working full
time until to FI as a community manager. I've been
streaming since December twenty three at nine pm p s.
T Yes write in a dot I, Oh my gosh,
I have a story. Before I got into streaming after
high school graduation in m late couple of months towards October,

(01:36):
I was homeless, me and my mother. We were homeless
from September to February Winnie sixteen. That was an experience. Um,
thank god for my grandma for helping us. I recently
lost my grandmother. So sorry, I'm so sorry, crap I
have I've been good for a couple of weeks. Um. Yeah,

(02:01):
my grandma helped this as much as she could, you know,
during that experience in my life. Yeah, I just miss her.
She yeah, you know, my second mother. UM. You know,
that was a tough experience, especially outside of high school.
You know, I had dreams being a game designer and

(02:22):
all these fun things I wanted to do. I said, Okay,
well that dream is gone now that's you know, that
was my mindset at the time. And then we finally
got back on our feet. I was like, oh my god,
my dreams are back on track. We got this um
and it's just the same place I'm living in right now. UM.
So many places would not give us a place, so
like you have no income, no, no, no, I'm like,

(02:45):
just let me get this place real quick. And I
got you. I just need to get back at my feet,
and thankfully this place took us in. Thank God is
I don't think I was gonna make it okay. I
I was at the autumn on my mental health. Literally
I was almost going to give up, you know, um

(03:05):
because it was out of our control. How it happened. Um,
family members owning our house when I was in high
school living there in that area, and they weren't happy
with my mom's path of career choice. So then I
just kicked us out. I'm like, right after I graduate
high school, I'm trying to figure out my life. You know,

(03:26):
this is my chance to shine. So all that happened
that's pre miss ash Rocks time. But Miss ash Rocks
got back on her feet. Her mom supported her. The
summer twenty two, the day before I started shreaming, I
bought my first PC at best Buy. It was a
pre bill and it was I buy Power y'all. Yes,

(03:48):
I think we've all had an I Buy Power or
Cyber Power PC. Yes, yes, so that was an adventure.
I My first game that I started shreaming on Twitter
was Believe It or Not Friday to thirteenth beta, So yeah,
so that was a game. First PC game to experience

(04:10):
running away from Jason I was great, really really fun.
But ever since then, I just wanted to build a
community online, friends that I love and want to support
and just building relationships and that's still what I do.
And once I found tolt Defy for play Life season

(04:32):
in seventeen, I was like, oh my god, I can
fundraise Because my mom always taught me to give back
when I can and support people that can't support themselves
if I can. That's been instilled to mean since I
was born. So the moment I knew that could give
back in fundraise for causes that I'm passionate about, I

(04:52):
knew that I at a place on Twitch, and I
knew that I could do so much good in the world,
which is an online plat form, So that really motivated
me to keep going and keep streaming and just have
fun with it. So ever since then, I have cultivated
the rock Squad community. I play video games, all sorts

(05:14):
of games, mainly FPS. I really one day I want
to become a pro Okay, one day in FPS, I
really do, because you don't see black women in a
pro scene. So that's what I've been focusing on and
off on with my content, you know, along with fundraising
and just having fun with my community. Um gosh, I've

(05:37):
had a lot of different experiences, bad and good experiences,
but it's all a part of my story. So I'm
happy to be here. I'm happy to inspire black women
in a space because that's my number one thing. Because
in sixteen, earlier in that year, I had my Xbox

(05:57):
One and I had streamed two days on Twitch on
a console, and I got hit with of course they
hate raids. Of course, you know, so early on, so
early on, and I was you wouldn't know what I
was playing. I was playing Sherlock Holmes. Okay, I was
playing Sherlock Holmes, sitting on my folded chair in my

(06:18):
living room when my connect across the room. You could
barely see me, but still getting targeted. So it was
from that day I was like, yeah, I'm never doing
this again. And my mom said no, you've got another
chance of life. This is what you're gonna do because
that's what you want to do. So here we are.
Tis my mom for telling me to buy that crappy
piece at Best Buy, but it got me here to

(06:42):
this day and now I work until to five full time.
Along with streaming, I get to manage to tilt five community,
inspire people to fundraies, help them with their incentive ideas,
share their stories of why they fundraise, and so much more.
Here we are y'all, Thank you ever being part of
the journey, and thank you so much for joining us

(07:04):
and sharing your journey with us. It's super cool and
inspiring too, for sure. Um it's it's very much like
start at the bottom, now our here right like uh
And that's I think that's really relatable for a lot
of people that get into twitch because it's Twitch or
YouTube or just content creation in general. It feels like

(07:24):
in this ridiculous society we live in, like our one
shot at at making something for ourselves, do, making our
own business, having control of our own, you know, our
own destinies, our own lives, and otherwise we're gonna be
stuck at some nine to five that we don't care
about and uh just wasting away. So UM, I'm glad
you were able to find streaming. UM, and it seems

(07:45):
like community building has been a major uh goal for you.
Um you're even community managing at tilt to fight too.
So uh you're just a bright, a bright little sunshine
that that is able to rally a bunch of people
around them. UM. Has there been any uh maybe struggles
you've had with building your community or um times where

(08:07):
you thought it wasn't going to work out in regards
to I love talking about boundaries personally and paras social relationships,
and have you have you struggled at all with finding
the right boundaries between yourself and your community as you've grown.
I am not struggled with that because I've said at
the beginning, I'm like, this is what this is, and

(08:29):
this is how you treat me. This is how I
treat you. If you do anything outside of that in
your banned I'm sorry. If you make me uncomfortable, you're gone.
I might give you a chance to tell you, hey,
this is my boundaries. You need to respect them and
other people in a community. Now, that's the thing I
have struggled with people and about with other community members. Um.

(08:52):
And then people come to me and like now, like
I turned it to mama there, I'm like, no, you
don't do this. Stay away. So not really a struggle,
but definitely had a couple of instances. Are that happening, Um,
I just I make it known all of the time.
People again, if they don't respect it, then you can leave,

(09:13):
all right. And I make sure they stay away because
people that don't respect me, why should they be in
my space? Do you think that that strong boundaries has
been like a contributing factor to why you've because it's
been what six years now that you've been in the
streaming space, would you consider that something that is I
don't know if I want to say required, but necessary

(09:35):
to be able to do it as long as you
have And if not boundaries, is there something else you
would attribute it to? I would say yes, Um, I
think gosh, I have been streaming for so long. This
is crazy. You said six years, right? Yeah, I think
I have changed in streaming. So when I first started streaming,

(09:57):
I was very shy and speak a lot, was very
you know, this wasn't breaking out of my shell. And
I'm very loud now and I don't care what anybody
else to say about me. I'm yelling at you or
I'm telling you off, Like I said it straight. Because
people have ran over me so many times in my childhood,

(10:20):
I don't tolerate it anymore. So I'm pretty strict on it.
Like if somebody crosses anything within my community and like, nope,
you gotta go. I'll give you a chance if it's
something to give a chance to. But if not, if
they go too far, I'm like, you just have to go.
I trained myself to be that way because my community

(10:40):
loves me for it. Like I'm going to protect y'all.
I got you. Don't worry. This is my space. I
cultivated the space. I want my space to be the
space that I wanted to be, and I wanted to
be safe for others all the time, especially marginalized groups.
Me as a black woman, I have to do what
I have to do to protect myself everybody else involved.
Oh so it's funny because last week you were interviewing

(11:02):
me and now like the tables have turned literally seven days.
So how does it feel to like be the first
black woman twitch partner on? Is that true? It's it's
all when I had so when I came across the

(11:24):
ash Rocks channel because there's zero discover ability on Twitch. Um.
It was the day before she got partnered, and I
thought when she got partnered and was she did this
whole celebration with her mom, and I like, I stayed
like the whole time. It was like a eighteen hour stream.
It was something nuts and I stayed the whole time. Um,
and I was like wow. Like then I went to
twitch Con that year and I was like wow, Like

(11:47):
you're like the first like black women to be partnered
on Twitch and that's literally not true. But because there
was so little discover ability and Twitch was not invest
thing in black women in particular, that's like it's funny,
but it's also like, yeah, it was your first exposure
to it, yeah, and it's like it shouldn't be like that,

(12:10):
especially because like there are things could insisting on the platform.
Used to be called communities, and like there was literally
they twisted nothing with them except the fact that they existed, um,
and then they took them away from us for no
reason because they did nothing with them. But I think
we utilize them, well, yeah, I think you But like
when it came to like like, oh, I can't find

(12:32):
like because I know like there would be some like
you know, staff members or sometimes people be like, we
can't find black women on this platform at all. How
when communities exist right there, there's a whole spaces called
black girl gamers. I don't want to yeah, and they're
like every platform, Like, come on, if you couldn't find

(12:53):
it on to, you could have found it somewhere else,
I promised, right. So then after I discovered that that
was not the true ruth, I google what I said,
who are the top like black weabon streamers on Twitch?
Into Google? And Google only kicked back five names and
Ash actually wasn't on that list yet, so it um

(13:13):
it gave me. I think it was a cup of noodle.
It was um Story, Moote Bay, Pikachulita, and somebody else
whose name escapes me right now, probably Mirra, And I think, um,
oh my god, I can't remember. I don't have to

(13:36):
it was something by somebody was on there. But like
even there, like was that I guess, I don't remember
what year that was, but like that, even then, like
that list was still so short, which is actually really
tragic too. Yeah, we have good people like, um, dipped

(13:59):
and me, oh my gosh, dipping gaming. I can't I
can't think of his name right now. But he does
black girl gamers. You should know. He has a whole
series that he does on TikTok and Twitter and it's
so many black girl gamers that he highlights with each
one of those TikTok or yeah yeah, and I think
that's awesome. So it's like wow, like you've never seen

(14:20):
him because they just don't have any discover ability. It sucks.
I'm glad he takes the time to do that. I've
never been on the list. Interesting, I think you have
maybe no will soon soon, soon soon t M Okay, well,

(14:43):
why don't we take himone here to pause and hear
a word from uh an advertiser. So welcome back. Um,
we are here talking with miss ash Rocks. Um knowing
a little bit about her ernie, UM, could you tell
us the origin story of your name? Oh wow, the

(15:07):
or story of miss ash Rocks. The name the name Now,
I was eight years old, okay, and my mom and
my aunties just call me Lady Ashley. I say, oh,
Lady Ashley, that's cute. But then I started getting hardcore

(15:27):
intine gaming, and I was like, you know what, I rock,
And then I came up with miss epic Bomb. I
don't don't ask. I don't know how I came up
with that. That was almost that was almost me miss
epic Bomb. I said miss Ash instead of Lady Ash
and miss Ash rocks. Let's do it. We're gonna stick

(15:48):
with it. So here we are. I'm twenty four now,
sixteen years deep and yeah that's yeah, eight year old
brain just overpowered. Yeah, I think miss epic Bomb. I
feel like that's a great YouTube name just because of
what YouTube curates. It was about. It was gonna be
miss epic Bomb or miss epic nous don't ask. Okay.

(16:13):
My first season name but aging myself was Groove and
Chick two thousand. This would have been around the year
two thousand. I would have been around what ten twelve
years old, and it was my first time getting to
make an email address for myself, and that was what
I came up with. I don't know. I got hippies
for parents, So I guess I like the word groovy
at the time, but looking back, it's like, hey, shady Lady,

(16:35):
Groove and Chic. You know, they're kind of similar. They
got the same vibe somehow, same energy. So yeah, miss
Ash tracks. I've thought about rebranding to miss Ash because
everybody calls me miss Ash, especially if there's another Ash
in the room, like a missage Mike. Should I just

(16:55):
rebrand a massage? Thinking about it? But out of my
radar right now, But it's under brain. Rebranding is tough. Yeah,
I feel like I can get away with it everything. Yeah,
I feel like I can get away with it if
they just do miss Ash and I'll pop up like

(17:15):
as you're typing, because it wouldn't be too far away
from from your pre existing name. Um. I know that
a lot of people struggle with like, like I know,
like if I were to change my name to something
totally different, um, like kangaroo Girl or something. Let's say
that's what I was changing it too. And then y'all
have followed me on Twitter forever and then all of
a sudden you see someone pop up name Kangaroo Girl.
You're like, who the Hell's that? I don't know why

(17:36):
I followed this and you unfollowed? You don't you don't
recognize it. Maybe my profile picture isn't recognizable either, So
I know a lot of people struggle with that when
they're dealing with rebrands, um. But it sucks when you're like,
you're like, I grew out of this name. I don't
want to be this anymore. But then you're like the
business decision of you know, I think Kelly Clarkson recently
like either got married or changed her last name or something,

(17:59):
and she was being interviewed on a red carpet somewhere
and they were like, well, you can't go buy such
and such now you're in this for too long, and
she's like, I know, I just gotta be Kelly Clarkson forever.
But I don't. I don't know exactly that. I can't
remember the story behind it. But even just her real name,
like that's rebranding as your actual real name. When it
comes to like show business stuff, it's just so convoluted

(18:20):
because even the Rock, like the Rock, like you you
hear you you see Dwayne Johnson or Dwayne the Rock
Johnson or you just see the Rock, Like it's interesting
because like I don't think he can ever break. I
don't think he wants to, because like that's he pretty
much came up in like the w W A but
like and his dad like, you know, this really the whole,
literally the whole, the whole freaking family. So like, I

(18:41):
don't like so that's when we need to say so.
I think he's when he tried to do like Dwyne Johnson,
like he was just like yeah, so it was like
Dwayne the Rock Johnson is like, okay that that tracks.
We gotta remind people. But I'm like, you see him,
it's just like dub I don't know if you know
set or listen to mis pote guest said he or not.
He does a lot of like food reviews and stuff

(19:03):
like that. Um, I believe he's Malaysian, but he was
actually known as Green Dumpling and he was just like,
do any of y'all know me as Green Dumble And
they were like, no, we just call you study. He
just chakes his name the Steady because he's like whatever,
like because he's like I've been doing this Green Dumpling thing,
like but at least it's just so much right to
his name. Oh my gosh, I love his content. I

(19:30):
want to I feel like I want to go to
some of those places that like he saw. I'm like, oh,
I'm gonna go check it out next week. I literally
lived right really pulling it up on Google Maps and
it's like, I'm gonna take you like sixteen thousand days
to get there. Oh yeah, does I live over here?

(19:50):
Hit me out? I want to go where you are? Please?
And who yeah, now I'm thinking about it. Okay, you're fine. Um,
So what are like some of the like the biggest
failures you had in your career and what is something
that you've learned from them? Mm hmm. That's a good one.

(20:12):
It is got me pulling now. I felt like I
just I trial and error everything I do with content,
like is this going to work? Is this timing going
to work? Is this content going to work? How did
my community react to this? Now? I feel like a failure.

(20:33):
I don't think it is a failure. I think it's
just a learning journey in this industry as a black woman,
because not everything will work for you as it works
for your white peers. And that's just a given. Um,
I could be doing the same exact Valor game like
my white peers and they will have thousands of viewers
and I will have sixty or I will you know,

(20:56):
it's just it's a complete different story. I could be
more entertaining, I could play you better. I just don't
get the recognition I deserve. Um. But that's not answering
a question, so milady, Um, that's really difficult for me.
But I know I've made mistakes, and I think about

(21:16):
them right now. Now. I think, now, okay, I'm brewing
mistakes that I probably have made. Our letting in certain
community members in for too long and giving them too
many m hm, so freshenating too many chances to improve
and be comfortable for everybody. I think that's a constant

(21:42):
issue actually, because especially with me being very open with
my community and welcoming in everybody, peop are not what
they see. Sometimes they're just a complete opposite and they
piss you off and you want to go off, and
you're like, no, it's okay, they'll do better next time.
That's my mindset. They'll do better next time. This actually

(22:03):
happened last night. I was playing Valerie Customs with my community,
and you know, that's just when the whole lobby is
filled with your friends instead of doing online against randoms,
and you know, we're just here to have fun. But
then there's people that try really hard and sweat for
no reason. What do you mean They're not going to

(22:26):
get signed to an e sports team from your valerant
customs game and then if somebody doesn't kill them, they
laugh or they're just being a jerk ass. Can I
curse ground here? Okay, there's just being a jerk ass.
And I'm like, this community is not for you. We're
not sweaty, like we're not playing competitive. Dude, you need

(22:48):
to chill out. Told this person, take the thousand times
to chill out and make the space comfortable for people.
I don't care what rank you are. I don't care
if you're number one in the world. If you're an ass,
I don't want you in my space. That's just here
your point blank. You can actolutely set at the game,
but if you have a good personality, good energy, and
you're just there to have fun, I want you there.

(23:09):
I don't care. So I struggle with people having a
good game playing because you want to learn from them
and teach other community members, you know, because we're here
to learn to have fun at the same time. But
it's not worth it. It's just not worth it. And
once your community is uncomfortable, you feel like you failed
your community. So I struggle with that every couple of

(23:32):
weeks because you know, you just want to welcome in everybody,
and they're just not for you, you know, they just
want to be there, to be there ruin everybody's day.
It's tough too, because like this, this is something I
struggle a lot with with, Like you get to know
your community, so you start to justify the behavior like, oh,
they were having a bad day, or they've only done

(23:54):
this one time and it's not like them, and um,
you know, I'll give them another chance. And then a
week or two goes by, and then the behavior happens again,
and then it's on you for still allowing them to
exist in that space. And it's at a certain point
you allowing that person to continue to coexist makes other
community members lose trust in you or think that you're not,

(24:15):
you know, willing to crack down or take care of
everybody else in the space. And that's something I think
I'm just going back and forth with. And then I'll
like I overcompensate and I get really harsh all of
a sudden, and then everyone thinks I'm just being an
asshole for no reason, and it's like, you don't know
all the stuff that's going on behind the scenes, all
of the five six seven different people that I've been
having to argue and bicker with, and you're just seeing

(24:37):
the front facing now now everybody, you know, it's like
you blow up all of a sudden, at least for me,
Like and it wasn't even really a blow up, it
was just all of a sudden, I've got boundaries where
I was letting everyone walk over me all before, and
uh now then it's trying to twist it to like, oh,
you're you're just an asshole and blah blah blah, and
it's like I wouldn't have to be like this, and

(24:57):
you've seen me like exists publicly in a certain way,
and all of a sudden there's a change, like there's
clearly a catalyst here, Like that's been a whole back
and forth, like I'm and then now I've just kind
of like introverted. Now I'm just like I'm getting burned
too many times, so I'm just withdrawing from this. Like
I literally blew up last night, like I really did,

(25:21):
because yeah, I didn't. It's like when someone just comes
and rolls in your child just feel violated. I don't know,
I feel violated because that's your personal to you. You know,
my my mentor says, you know, the internet lacks context
for everything, and because I there is a disconnect with

(25:44):
the viewer and the performer, streamer whatever. UM, they like
that that paras social thing. Like it's not even just
like the be invasive. It's the fact that, like you're
not really seen as human. And I think that um,
what you get seen as gets more and more devalue
the more marginalized visually marginalized you are. And you know,

(26:08):
because of that lack of context, you know, people just
think that they can act and be however they want
to be. And that's not necessarily how they would be
I r L if they met you in person or
if that's not how they act with their friends who
they probably play play valoriant with um or it is
um they just tolerate that behavior. But like you know,
that's not they wouldn't act around that if somebody they

(26:31):
you know, was a stranger to them in their face
versus like you know, in a digital space or they
or like somebody that they do respect or hold some
regard for. When an act like that, UM, and it's
really tough as you know, the content creator, the performer
or the YouTube or whatever. To keep that in mind,

(26:52):
because there's like there's literally zero context for the ending
for the Internet, and that's how people act and it's
very unfortunate because in that burden becomes on you and
it's like are you being reactive? Yes, but there's a
reason for that, and you know, if you're not going
to be the world. The world has consequences for really
shitty behavior and like the minor consequence, it's minor and

(27:14):
effect of like you know, compared to other things in
the world, like if you killed somebody, but like being
banned in somebody's check, like there's a consequence for you
being a jackass and if you can't handle that, um
therapy and then the entitlement that comes along with it too,
of like like in the culture is kind of built

(27:35):
into Twitch to with like the unbanned requests on Twitch
and stuff like that someone even trying to use them,
but uh yeah, just the the idea that it's like
and maybe sometimes like I can see like huge streams
of like thousands of people every day where there's like
they banned a hundred people easy daily or something like

(27:56):
that like they might grab like a good one in
the batch they accidentally I it. I could sort of
see it there, but um, it creates this trickle down
effect of like, no, you shouldn't have abandon me because this,
that and the other, and then it turns into a
whole like like uh, law and order jury, like presenting
their evidence kind of um kind of thing. I don't know.

(28:19):
And it's a lot having to manage yourself and manage
an entire community of people on top of it. You
already like having to be extra responsible for your own
reactions and then feeling um, responsible for the behavior of
everybody underneath you. Two is a lot of pressure. Um

(28:39):
it's very stressful. No, especially as a marginalized person. I know,
when I first started shreaming, there's like, oh, they're just
being playful. I need people to be in my community.
I need people to be here. I need viewers. I've

(29:00):
had sometimes too where like I've rated people and there
was like there was like a person or two that
might have showed up towards the end of my stream
that I was already kind of like eye bowling, like
you know, and then I raided someone with them and
then it looks like they're part of my community, but
it's but they were just there for that last like
thirty minutes of my stream or something. And I'm like,
but that that's probably another reason why you should just

(29:21):
act quickly, because now, like this other streamer has an
impression of me in my community based on that one
person that came over with the raid. You know, I
banned without mercy, So I don't. I don't know how
you accumulate that. I just I've been that way from
the jump because I I've I'm not gonna I'm already

(29:41):
have to be uncomfortable in my skin and existence every day.
Like can I have like one place where that's where
I'm not uncomfortable or made to be uncomfortable because somebody's fragile. Yeah,
So I'm just like, but that's why I never did
the band request. Like literally, when that feature went live,
I was in my madge. I'm like, I'm not turning
that on. I said what I said I did with it.

(30:04):
There are times where things like people have gotten like bands,
and like they'll usually at me publicly on Twitter and
be like, hey, like this was a mistake. I'm like, oh,
you know what, my bad but like they can. Typically,
typically that doesn't happen, and there was a good reason
for it, Yeah, because if they're just I had them
on for like a day and I said nope, nope,

(30:26):
because that was when the hate raids were happening and
I was using a commander route. So a lot of
people were banned on accident. But other than that, requests
the unbanned requests. So I won't say that again. Nah,
you're gonna say it again. And even if you don't
say that, you're gonna say something else. It's kind of
like that. So that's or even worse. Just yeah, stay banded, dude,

(30:49):
I don't need you here. So what are some of
your favorite moments in your career so far? Some of
the standout memories that are like that would be in
my my little photo journal. That's easy to answer, all right.
So being on a billboard, yes, in New York that yeah, Yeah,

(31:14):
I'm so happy. My grandma was here to see that too. Yeah.
She was like, oh my god, my baby, I have
her phone still and I was just growing through a text.
She was just sitting a picture to everybody like baby,
Oh my gosh. It was so cute. That was a hit.
Shout out to Twitch for putting black creators up there,

(31:36):
and they're still doing it periodically. For Hispanic Heritage Month
they did it and a couple other awesome months, so
hopefully they continue to do that one for Indigenous and
Native American. Yeah, yeah, they're missing a lot. It's a
November for the US and they need to because they
do it for everyone else except for them, and that's disgraceful. Yeah, exactly,

(32:01):
they should be at the top of the list. Um.
So being on a bow board was awesome. That was cute.
I got to work with Dorito's last year. I'm a
part of the change Maker's program. Yeah, they came into
my apartment and did a mini documentary and then we
went did a photo shoot and it was just awesome.
They paid a couple of black creatives, so there was

(32:24):
an artist, uh oh my gosh, two chefs that they funded,
a couple other different black creatives. Um one is into music,
a whole bunch of other cool stuff. But I was
the only gamer involved and they gave us a grant
help for our business. Eight year old Miss epic Bomb
would have thought of screaming with bloodto just exit now

(32:54):
she didn't she wouldn't have known what Oh my gosh,
she'd be the happiest girl in the world right now
because that eight year old girl was playing Uh. I
was playing SpongeBob on a GameCube, was playing WrestleMania on
a game cube. I was playing Intelligent Cube. If you
know what that is, Intelligent Cube on PlayStation one. I

(33:15):
didn't want to PlayStation one. I haven't heard of it. It
It sounds really smart though, very fine. Please google it,
okay please? That was yeah anyway, Yeah, that girl would
be so proud of now. Especially. I think seventeen year
old ash, when I was at the lowest point in
my life, would be very proud of twenty four year

(33:36):
old ash. Um. I'm just so grateful for my journey
and I can't wait to keep moving on Ford. But
I know you're just starting, Like I wonder where you're
gonna be onen you're like my age. I'm ten years
older than you, ye, so like like looking back at like,
I don't know, like you're you're so. I was such

(33:57):
a lost little idiot when I was twenty four, so
to see where you are, Um compared, you know, I
was like getting lost in the party scene and everything.
So it's it's super empowering and super inspiring. UM. And
it's it's very self. What is it like? Self started?
Self motivated to like you've kept your You've kept yourself
to it um the whole time. Have you ever considered

(34:20):
quitting streaming, like for any reason and doing a different
type of job or UM? I know your community managing
full time with tilta fi and that's a UM. I
think that's like a nice balance too, because it's still
keeping you in the same industry. UM. But have there
been have there been points where you've you've had to
consider other options? Maybe I'll put it like that. No, No,

(34:44):
I haven't had to consider other options. I would love
to contecurate full time in my life eventually, because I
think if I put more time into it, I can
really make it something special. But I love We're gonna
tell to find. I love charity streaming, I just Chef's kiss.
I love giving back, love helping others. But there's been

(35:07):
times where I wanted to quit. Bestie, Oh yeah, I
think last week. Really, you know, when you just have
a bad day and you're just like, screw this industry
because people are so ridiculous. You're like why am I here?

(35:33):
But oh my gosh, I think Milady can definitely relate
because we talk a lot on a personal level. But
this industry is stressful, it's overwhelming. The world hates us.
I'm a woman and black like and I speak up
for other marginalized groups too. Yeah, the world hates me.

(35:55):
But guess what, I don't care. I'm gonna have my
bad days where I want to quit, but I'm not
gonna because why that's what they want me to do,
or they want me to quit. I'm not gonna. But
I'm gonna have my bad days, okay, where I'm going
to be like, yeah, I forget this, or I just
need to unplug for a little bit. And that's yeah.

(36:16):
I'm grateful because I have a full time job I
get to but full time contentrating, Oh my gosh, it's
it feels like a trap because you if you take
that break for yourself, then there goes your paycheck and
then it's just a fight all the You're you're starting
from ground zero all over again and trying to get
that momentum back up. It literally feels like that I

(36:38):
don't know Greek Roman legend, I don't know um the
guy pushing the boulder up the mountain, and every day
it just falls back down and he has to get
up and push the boulder up again. It just feels
like that constantly, over and over and over the great
analogy because I know, right, I know right now, and
people telling me to take a break, and I'm like,
you all realize I can't afford to do that, right,

(36:58):
like unless you pay my bills for me for the month, right, sure,
I'll take a break. That's not gonna happen. And I
wouldn't ask that. I just it's just it's just like
it's really tough, especially like because I think people like
associate like numbers and stuff like that with success, and
like a lot of people wouldn't know that, Like my
email box it's empty at the time, so like it's

(37:21):
it's really it's really. Um that's the word I'm looking for. Um.
It blows the wind out of the sales a bit. It'sheartening. Yeah,
there it is. I see you have a brain. So no,
it sucks because you be in so much time into
your craft, your cash plays, your streams, posting on socials

(37:43):
every single I know, every time I got up my
Twitter and there's my Lady Confetti tweet. You're on top
of no and I love it. It's like you're it's
to me, I'm like, how the hell because I'm like
scratching my brain to get one tweet a week. It's
what it feels like right now. And I feel that
I'm trying to get this whole content schedule thing going
right now where it's like I can have content going

(38:04):
up multiple times a week on all of the different platforms.
But holy crap, man, Like it's hard enough to just
do one platform and then to try to juggle all
of these other ones and doesn't really don't really do that.
I don't know what and I say, like, I think
that you, to me are like goals. I don't know
how to say it. Besides that, like you, you seem

(38:26):
like you are maintaining present. You seem like you're maintaining
your and I know that that there's been a couple
of times where you're you're seeming overwhelmed because you've got
I've got to get this tweet up for this company
and this company, and how am I supposed to do
this all on the same day? Um? And I think
that if if the obligations were pulled away, the not

(38:49):
even pulled away, but when that stress isn't laid on
top of you. Just the way that you're able to
you're so authentic. It doesn't feel like you're trying that hard,
and and it's effortless. It looks effortless the way that
you do it. I guess that's how I want to
say it. And it's very well balanced because it's a
it's a bunch of different types of content. It feels
it feels um. I think balance and authentic are the

(39:11):
words that I want to use. And so like every
time I see a tweet from you, it's either something
really inspiring, like a really cool cosplay, or it's really
from the heart kind of like just in the moment
feeling kind of tweet. And I'm like, how can I
be more like in the moment, like I'm really trying
not to cry, and you're going to make me cry. Okay,
well for a second, because I have something for shady lady.

(39:34):
How are you having trouble content planning when you make
content planners? Because the planners sitting don't do that. Don't
you see my planners for three months? I'm like, well,
I it's so much like it's have your stuff bookmarked exactly.
Love my planner. I love it. I just so I'll

(39:56):
use it for like a month. I'll use any planner
for like a month. And then I just I'm like, Okay,
well that was a fun costplate. And then I like
drop it and I'm like, I don't mean to, I
just can't, like I'll make all of these elaborate plans.
And then I'm just like, yeah, but I could sleep
all week too though. No, but yes, my lady, I

(40:17):
say this all the time. Every time I talked to her,
I'm like, I'm so proud of you. You're doing great. Um,
but she's also a black woman, Like it just sucks.
It's such a barrier for us. We just can't get
the support we deserve. The lady should be getting signed
to YouTube, Like I will say I did try that

(40:39):
with Vidgon. I did try. Um, probably just not the
right time. That's now. It's never a yeah, that's definitely
a matter of time. That's the hard thing about this
whole journey is you have to maintain that presence until

(41:01):
that time hits. And then it's also still like in
some ways a gamble, you're just fingers crossed, like will
this ever pay off for me? Or am I just
screaming into the void forever? I feel like it's I'm
a void screamer right now, and it's like that's the
that's the part that because it's like I don't I
feel like sometimes I was talking to pleasantly Twisted again,
who was also a guest here, who if y'all know,

(41:23):
is a Leo. I have to mention it every time
I've mentioned her name. Um, but like when she speaks,
she breathes fire, but it's very like accurate and like
she's somebody who can help me jumble like un jumble
my thoughts and like she can be very distinct and
it's just like she. So I posted, um about the
video from Vidcan about Grace Africa and another black woman

(41:46):
who went to Vatcan. They have millions of followers across
their platforms, and nobody showed up for them. Nobody showed
up for their that actually did happen, um, and then
it was zero zero people And then I was at
my panels, like I couldn't even go down there and
be like hi to support because I was at my thing.
Um but um, when I posted that, I was talking

(42:09):
about like misogyn war and content curation. I'm like, I
think you'll really underestimate how nasty this is. And then
then you want to add colorism in there, and I'm like,
it's very bio and I don't think you understand how
much that ways on people. And it's just like, you know,
you can do all these things and I can have
a variety of content whatever, but I will not be
granted access like other people who are not like me.

(42:30):
And um, when we talk about so like when I
posted something like that pleasantly twisted me to TikTok about
my post and was talking about, like, I think there's
a lot of people right now in the industry who
are at the point where they're saying, fuck it, we
don't care. So like it's more so because like even
I surprisingly have my filters shocking. I don't go full either,

(42:53):
but oh my god, in my clothes. So it's like
it's to that point where I'm just like and then sadly,
it's when you have that that moment of explosion that
would get all the attention right. And I was telling
Ash last week on the Tilt I FI podcast, I said,
are you support like there were people who were supporting
me because it wasn't my content they wanted. It was
my me being upset, that was their entertainment. So like

(43:17):
what do you do in that situation? It's like people
only want to gravitate to you when you're not feeling awesome,
Like it's weird. I'm like, not my nurse kill okay,
like the ashes, like one of the creators, Like I
see one of the my thing the only black women
I really see on TikTok personally for my f I
p like doing Valerie and like teaching things about Valerie

(43:38):
and like that's a hard learning curve. Like that's why asker.
I'm like, can you teach me? Because like I have
like people in my real life who play Valorie and
like they won't even teach me or like the learning
curve it's tough. I'm not gonna sit here and say
it's it's tough for me. It's not. So it's like
it's just like, yeah, just do the thing. And I'm like,
what are you talking about? You just said a bunch
of words in my direction. So like when you have

(43:58):
somebody who's doing things like that, you know, why wouldn't
you sign her to a sports e sports team. Why
why when you say, like, you know, I'm looking for
members to be a part of my sports team that's
full of you know, white men, Um, why aren't black
women there. We have a team called the Philadelphia Fusion.
You would think the Philadelphia Fusion would look like as
diverse as the city of Philadelphia, and it doesn't. So

(44:21):
it's like it's just like a lot of things that
are just swirling right now. And I will say, like
they're like I'm like a hurricane right now, so like
y'all are getting the eye of the storm. So I'm
just concentrated right now. But outside of here, it's just
sucking chaos. So like I I when I see things
like that, like I want to see ash like because
she deserves to shine like the star that she is. Period.

(44:43):
I want to see her on a team. I want
to see her paid. I want to see her getting
her nails done every other day, like relaxing every other
day though every other day, Well, that's a waste of
jail in college. Whatever we deserve. You have an expensive wine,
so do you can we go wine tasting? You want

(45:06):
to go to Napa Valley, We can go in the
wine trade. When are you flying out here? I will
literally do that next month. I'm gonna don't blue bomb me,
don't don't the lady. Okay, where on a wine train drunk? Wait?

(45:32):
What side of the planet are you on? I'm I
think we're on the same coast. I'm east coast in
North Carolina. Oh ship hurricanes coming in, Hurricane the Chaostar. No,
they have some dope wine spots down there too, though. Yeah,
I haven't been in Napa. Kappa has some really good

(45:53):
spots as well, but south, but down south they do too.
I love just going and like doing wine taste. Like
my favorite vineyard up here because I live near the Biltmore,
the Biltmore Estate, which is something I don't really know
the history of. Its some big old mansion thing um,
but there's a big old vineyard. I'll buy it, and
they produce a lot of wine and stuff. I've never
had any of it. I've never gone any of us

(46:13):
for the bougie yuppie tourists that come out here. But
we can bougie and yuppie. I could do bougie. I
share can too. I will wear the fanciest dress that
I own and we will go there. The fanciest big y'all.
Y'all just woke up a bowl. I'm ready, ready, ben

(46:37):
at my heels, my dress. My son has tell me
a day in time, let's do it. I'm so serious,
but I appreciate that, lady. I appreciate your kind words.
I love you. You always inspire me so fine better

(46:58):
you're so hard on your star is real. Yes, y'all
stop dragging me. Oh you're literally a host of the
Boss Level podcast. What do you mean the ultimate boss
that that I didn't know until I got invited? First off, yeah,

(47:19):
we talk off three, we all talk off care about that?
About this? What did you tell me? What did you
tell me? Bestie? I believe it definitely don't do it
packs because I fee you cipher pleasantly, twisted deep. I'm
trying to get so many people on the thing you
right happening at Paxsys. Mike. Yeah, I called COVID you know,

(47:47):
but it's okay. I'm okay. It just made me very thirsty,
like I'm always sipping on something. I'm like, oh great.
But other than that, we've been double double tripling mass
up because there's a people who are there are cons
that are still abiding by COVID because you know it's
still out here. Um, I was watching New Today said
that there's another variant. In a way, I'm like, yeah,

(48:09):
but like it's always going to be a variant if
nobody wears a mask, right, and I'm still doing precautions
and stuff the same your best. I don't want it again.
I don't want y'all to ever have it. Please, you
don't want it. I've done my best to stay in
my little corner. I went to one convention. It was

(48:29):
an anime convention, but I stay in the Airbnb most
of the time, and I went down the artist Alian
Dealer's room for like one strip so it is in
the actual convention, for about an hour. And then I
was like, I paid all this money for the past
to go in here for one hour. That hell's wrong
with me? Honestly, I'm glad I'm not the only person
that does that. That's me too. Like you like they
like the big twitch cons coming up, you probably won't

(48:51):
see me like I like like I plan like surfluss,
Oh my god, that's so cool. Though, It's like, am
I getting I'm going on magas and I'm not even
gonna be which what is twitch you? But I can't swim.

(49:11):
I can't swim. That's what the instructors there for, also
to look at if I drowned. Look I roller skating
when I was out there for forty five minutes and
I broke my arm immediately, So I'm gonna stay away
from that. Yeah, I got my roller skates in and
I was out for forty five minutes. And then I
was literally packing my stuff up to go home, and

(49:33):
I rolled over to my camera where I was recording
myself do my little like wobble around like a toddler thing,
and uh, feet went right out, went down backwards, fell
the way you're not supposed to fall, and you put
your hand out. It was. It happened so fast. I
had been watching a lot of stuff about how to
fall the right way, and how to slow down, how
to break gets lower and roll fuller, all of this stuff,
and when it happened, there was not an It was.

(49:56):
There wasn't any time to think. There was no time,
there was no passing going, no collection. It just happened.
I looked down from my little arms in a zig zag,
and I'm like, when after some of these twelve year
olds overhaw that no, like wow, first broken bones so uh,
I don't know, I'm I part of me was like
I got like as soon as I wasn't sitting in

(50:18):
there a hospital about to get sedated so they could
set my arm, I was like, I'm gonna sell these
skates the second I get home. And then like now
it's a week later and I'm like, give me six months.
I'm gonna try again, Like you should roller skate with? Um,
I want to most rold skate with. We have our
other host, just bro Hard, who yes, I know, like
she was a big inspiration for why I got them too.
I was watching her videos and it was like, you know,

(50:39):
she's so like sporty, and I was like, I want
to get more active, and that was that was why
I feel like I've been feeling really hard on myself too.
Is it's like I was getting out of my comfort zone.
I was going outside, getting away from my computer, and
then boom broke touching streamer No, and then this is
what happens. This is why I played video games, why
I do virtuals roller skating like can't get hurt there?

(51:02):
Oh yeah, Um, I don't know, I am. I don't
want to give up on it. I know that much.
So it's it's just very very strange. Having said, I
feel like one of my friends was telling me that
it was like the universe, like literally slapping me across
the face and telling me to slow down. Um so
because it's go, go go with like everything. And even

(51:23):
when I got out there on the skates, it was like, well,
I got my balance, now let me see how fast
I can go. Not really, but but I was that's
really getting into it, and like feeling like the wind
like blow my hair off the back of and I
was like, that's what I was, like, kind of craving.
And then I was I kept do you ever play
like in an FPS or even a horror game where
you start to get kind of cocky because you got

(51:43):
that one kill and then you're going to go in
for the second, the third, the fourth, and then and
then you die because you got cocky. That's what it
felt like. You played Dead by Daylight. Yeah, the premise
of the whole game, it felt a little bit like
I I should have packed up and gone home fifteen
minutes before that, Like I should have I should have,
Like I I that was a great start, and I
kept pushing it and pushing and pushing it. That's that's

(52:04):
what I think, Like the the sole lesson was for me,
you know, like roller skating, skating, snowboarding. I can't speak
to surfing because I haven't had the lesson yet, but
taken into strides because you I mean, yeah, you see,
you can really damage. Grateful it wasn't worse. I was like,

(52:25):
you know, I live with my family, so I have
a lot of help. But I was like, God, if
I had broken both of my arms at the same time. Like,
so it's it's been a lot of like coping with
this has been it could be worse. It could be worse.
Think about if it was worse. Like that's that's been
my my only way to to kind of deal and
been watching a lot of Uh, I've been watching William

(52:45):
Shatner and The Unexplained on Netflix, so that's been getting
me through it. Just all the like Paranormal Cryptids, Lady
gets struck by lightning eighteen times, why, Mysteries of the
Universe kind of stuff. It's you know, she's the best
seed that what happened that little girl in that movie?
Oh my god, I love that movie. That's a really

(53:06):
old horror movie. UM, so cycling back around, UM maybe
to kind of like wrap us up ash, is there
UM advice you would give like like a maybe like
a young black woman who's looking to get into twitch
or into the gaming industry. What kind of advice would
you um give her um or them when they're getting

(53:27):
started and maybe when they've hit the first couple of hurdles. Well,
I think you're going to hit a hurdle at the beginning,
all right. You have to prepare yourself for the world. UM.
I know, I was shocked because I never experienced racial
harassment in high school or anything like, because California is
very diverse, Like I never experienced anything like that until

(53:51):
the internet. Be prepared it, I hate to say that,
but be prepared. This world is against you. Make safe
spaces or join a safe space with other black fems women.
You have to have that safe space or you you're
just gonna crumble. Because I crumbled almost but then I

(54:13):
formed back together. So it's okay. Just people like Milady
and just have loved ones all right that you can
talk to that have the same experience like you and
just be you. Be you, because they're gonna say oh,
black women shouldn't be doing so, and so black women

(54:35):
shouldn't be Why why not? Why not? Bestie? Why can't
I play anime games? Why can't I watch anime? Why
can't I do MMOs? Why can't I play FPS? Why
can't I? You know, they don't want you in any space.
It's harsh, but they don't want you in any space.

(54:55):
You have to take that space and own that space,
have fun. Um only have people around you that are
for you, and that means if they don't care about
you as a black woman individual and experience that you have,
then they shouldn't be in your space. I'm sorry they shouldn't.
I don't want people near me that don't care about

(55:18):
me as an individual and what I go through. I
had some people like that in my life before. They're like, oh,
boo hoo, just play the game, let's not talk about this.
I'm like, oh, Bactinbasa, you can leave doors over there,
because now we don't. We don't do that here. I
want people in my community to support me and listen

(55:40):
to me and be educated if they learned something from me,
and be in my space for the right reasons. Really,
just be prepared and just have fun, do what you love,
do what you do. Make sure you have a strong
team with you to protect you, UM and your community.

(56:01):
And take the steps to protect your information online. Okay,
they're gonna target you. I hate saying that, but it's
the raw truth. They are going to target you. If
you can take steps to take your information offline, do
that too. UM. I just recently did that and I'm
six years deep. So do it early. Okay, do it

(56:22):
early because you you need to. These people are foul
in this industry. They will target you. They will get
you squatted, docks you all the above. Make sure you
have whatever tools available in whatever platform they have. Make
sure you have them enabled and set up correctly. Blacklists

(56:42):
all words in terms that involve you, your family, address,
phone number, all that. Blacklist at all, all of it
so it can't be setting your chat now. Can you
make a Twitter account with that information? Still? Yes, So
just be pushes of things that you're showing your stream,

(57:03):
alerts wise, all that. You just have to think about
everything to protect yourself. It's really important. UM. When I started,
I didn't have any of any of this stuff, so
it was pretty rough. But we have a couple of
extra tools, not as many, but some to help um
be prepared that things will still happen even with those

(57:25):
tools in place, because people are fucked up, But things
will happen. But you gotta just get you rass back
up and keep doing it. But let's be clear, it's
okay to be emotional and sad about whatever goes on. Okay,
that's okay, but I need you to get back up

(57:47):
and keep going because we need you in this space, allright.
We need more black women, all right, And talk to
other black women again, have those safe spaces, have those
relationships with milady me Pet mirrors so many other lovely people,
especially people that have been in this space for a while. Uh,
take advice and tips from them, and just do the

(58:11):
best you can and have fun. Okay, don't stick to
any particular thing because it worked for this person, especially
if they're a person with privilege, it probably won't work
for you. Okay, Just do you okay, and have fun.
And please please love yourself because lady ye love yourself.

(58:36):
I want you to listen to that too. Please, it's
the time to love yourself. And no, you're worth and
know the impact you have on an industry because it's positive.
People love you. May not see you like that some days,
but people love you. I want to support you and

(58:57):
make sure you have people that love you around you. Okay,
if people are not for you, keep them out of
your space. I'm so serious. It's going to be harmful
in a long run. It's hard that that last part
because sometimes it requires you to be lonely for a
second because you do that to scoot some people out
of the way. And that's that's where it's that's when

(59:20):
you doubt and second guess because you're you're in that
space of loneliness for a second. But it swings back
around eventually. So yeah, more and more good people will
come your way when you get the bad out of
the way. And sometimes the bad were the ones blocking
off the good ones from coming into because they exactly

(59:40):
like we were talking about earlier, people making people uncomfortable
in a community or just whatever. Maybe kick them out,
you go buy a nice day. This community is not
for you, you know. So I just want black girls
and women love themselves and know they're worth know they
would be aful. Um it's a colorism issue in this

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industry to um. Oh, that's another whole topic, podcast, etcetera.
But yeah, it's just things we have to be wary
of and be prepared for. It sucks. It sucks, it
really does. But I think without the people in my life,

(01:00:27):
I wouldn't be here, okay, and reminding me that I'm
somebody and I deserve this space. You do deserve all
the things, especially too, for being the first black women

(01:00:48):
in the Lady's eyes. I was so, I was like, wow, well,
is there anything you've got coming up in the future,
Miss Ash going on on your channel or um maybe
events or charity things that are going on that you'd

(01:01:09):
like to let the audience know about and let them
know where they can find you on social media too. Sorry, Yes, no,
you're fine. I have a big announcement soon, big announcement
charity events. To be honest with you all, I barely
fundraise because I'm focused on helping other people fund a raise.

(01:01:33):
But I just recently finished my campaign for a c
l U for ro versus Wade, so that was it
felt good to fundraise again because I'm only fundraise twice
this year, and y'all, everybody that's listening, I usually fundraise
five or six times a year, so it's been a
change in pace for me while working out Told to five,

(01:01:54):
But I'm happy to inspire others to do what I did,
you know, because I raised over a hundred thousand dollars
for charity. I'm forever proud of my community for doing that.
Now it's time for me to put my knowledge in
time back into others to help them hit their goals too.
And um, yeah, I'm just I'm doing all the things.

(01:02:15):
I'm just here vibe it, you know. I'm trying to
get um into non gaming content. So that's my focus
right now. Vlogs, clothing halls, makeup house all of the above.
So yeah, and on social as you can find me
at miss ash Rocks everywhere ms A, s h R

(01:02:36):
O c k S. My TikTok is full of valeriate,
so if you like valerates and meat clicking heads, TikTok alright,
But I'm making another TikTok for beauty, lifestyle and all
that soon. And my twitch is gaming gaming gaming, also
non gaming as well, and just chatting with my community.

(01:02:58):
Instagram don't know her, but I post about a week okay.
Um and YouTube is gaming on gaming content mix, so
I hope to see y'all in my channel or on
socials and thank you so much for having me. And
let's see, what can I say? I thought of the

(01:03:19):
day is I challenge you all to remove anybody toxic
from your space, okay, and just take a moment of
silence to think about the things you have done and
be proud of yourself and get motivated to do more
because you deserve the space you want as well. You're

(01:03:44):
beautiful and wonderful. Thank you so much for your words
of wisdom and sharing your journey with us. Thank you
you too. I love you so much. I'm so happy
I got the time to talk with years now, and
I haven't I don't think we've ever gotten to have
like a one on one like this before. So you're

(01:04:04):
still got to let me reach your birth chart one day.
I still want to whenever broken arm Lady things. But yeah,
that's my new I'm actually rebranding, got it? Got it?

(01:04:29):
Do I set you up for rebranding? Thank you? Um confetti,
do you have anything coming up shortly or recently? Um?
By time this comes out, I would be at dream Con.
I will be cosplaying at my first big convention for
the first time ever. Um So that's going to be scary.

(01:04:50):
That's scary, but a little bit different, mostly because just
people are gross. Um, but I think my face will
give it away, like please don't touch me. Um. Yeah.
Working on a few projects with um, a few other
black thumbs right now. Um, they're pausible the moment just
because of my mental health, but they are still in
the process of at least production wise on their and

(01:05:12):
so hopefully we'll have that ball rolling by um middle
of next week. Um hey, but yeah, that's pretty much
I'll look at going on right now. Oh and Zuko says, Hi,
of course. Um. And then I think for me, I'm
I'm trying to get back in control of everything. I

(01:05:34):
kind of like let myself fall down for the week
that this this I've been coping with the deal with
my new identity of having a broken arm, um and
and adjusting to the fact that it's gonna be a
couple of months before I really have like full function again. UM.
So I'm trying to figure out how I can slow
down but also not lose momentum at the same time. Um.
That being said, I have kind of like definitely pulled back.

(01:05:56):
There's been a lot of readjusting I think that I'm,
um really going to try to take control of my
YouTube space back because I became like the Twitch tutorial
person and that's just the niche I fell into. But
I don't really you know, love, I love teaching and
helping people, but I don't want to be that forever.
So I'm I've got um devising my whole schemes of
had it incorporate lifestyle content and like all my witchy

(01:06:18):
like taro and astrology into it as well, and just
deal with the fact that I'm gonna lose quite a
bit of subscribers because they're they're probably just like random
gamer boy eighteen that just wanted to know how to
get famous on Twitch and doesn't given you know, like
but um, so I'm trying to readjust that, um, and
that's that's basically what I'm focusing on. But I'm a

(01:06:38):
shady lady across all of the social media platforms, and uh,
I'm hoping to get to get things rolling and get
back into who I'm supposed to be instead of who
the algorithm shoved me into, you know, So put that
on a T shirt? Yeah God, yeah, actually like literally though,
because I feel that But yeah, and then this has

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