October 29, 2025 • 44 mins
Ryan and Saagar discuss Israel breaks ceasefire, RSF massacre in Sudan, Hurricane slams Jamaica.
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having me Ryan, I appreciate it here.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Always a pleasure.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Well, but mostly thank you to Emily for letting me
swap around with her.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Oh my god. All right, here's the tough part of
the job. What do we have today? Israel? Okay, we're
going to start with Israel.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Breaking the ceasefire bombing parts of Gaza, where you talk
about their pretext, will analyze some of what that is.
Then Ryan is going to give us an update on
some horrific developments in South Sudan or sorry, no, in Sudan.
I'm not exactly familiar the RSF. There's a UAE back
militia and lots of killing. It's just a horrific, horrific story.
(01:20):
We're going to talk about the storm Hurricane Melissa made
landfall yesterday in Jamaica, as well as the fact that
there are thousands, thousands of American service members currently in
Caribbean waters, remember, as part of this Venezuelan regime change operation.
And there's some big question marks actually as to their
own role. Are they going to continue with drug interdiction
(01:41):
or they going to help with hurricane relief? They themselves
potentially could be at risk succording to some sources that
I spoke to, We're going to get over to open AI.
There is a new story from chatchept that nearly a
million people are actually interacting with chat GPT on the
issue of mental illness and suicide. In addition to a
major will blower inside of Chat GPT warning not to
(02:04):
not to believe sam Altman's claims about AI pornography, which
I believe we covered in our last one.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
And it's a very disappointment because I really like my
last guess was to just trust Sam Altman.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah. And if we can't trust sam Altman.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Yeah, if we can't trust who, indeed can we all trust?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
By the way, you'll all be happy to know that the.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
State of California has helped Sam Altman and Open Ai
transform into a for profit company, So now we can
just get rid of that pesky little nonprofit status.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Lovely for him.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Yes, thank you to the State of California, to Gavin
Newsom and all the officials there who assisted the multi billionaire.
We are going to talk about Sammi Hamdi Ryan, You're
going to give us a breakdown on this. He's a
British political commentator, he's a critical of Israel and he
was detained at a California airport.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Current political prisoner. Yeah, well in the United States, Like.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Has he been deported or is he Okay? Wow, okay,
still yt there on Sammy Hamdy rings a little, isn't it.
Whenever we critique the UK for.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Doing the exact thing. Yeah, a little tough.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Let them speak freely over here, but if they come here, right,
they're going to prison.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
That's right, exactly. All right, let's go to top. We're
also going to talk about Snap.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Actually, by the way, we talked touch a little bit
on it yesterday, But then there's some brinksmanship going on
within the current United States government about whether some forty
two million Americans who are dependent on the SNAP food
stamp program are going to receive some of their payments
and benefits on Friday. I believe there's some fiscal cliff issues,
but there are claims that the administration actually could pay
(03:34):
them if they wanted to. There's actually some Republican efforts
to try and to immediately fund the SNAP program, but
that is getting poured cold water on by the White
House and by Senate leadership. So you know, this is
when the shutdown really actually might start to impact millions
of people's lives outside of the DMV here, not to
say that it already hasn't, but in particular, really a
(03:54):
tangible thing in addition to air traffic control problems that
we've seen across the country. Finally, we're going to talk
with Ben Smith about China. He wrote a very interesting piece, actually,
I really liked it, and it says Trump is poised
to end Washington's.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Decade of the Chinahawks. Very astute.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Actually in terms of where things are going, you'd probably
have tracked my own evolution on the issue if you've
been watching over the last seven or eight years, and
it is of course something that any future politician is
going to have to grapple with before we get to that.
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with growth. Let's go and put this then up on
the screen. Israel has resumed the Gaza ceasefire now after
some one hundred and four Palestinians were killed in air strikes.
Prime Minister in Netanyah, who ordered quote powerful strikes in
Gaza as the ceasefire breaks down, I'm going to kick
it to Ryan because Ryan, I don't really know there
(04:57):
were two separate instances of their claims or the ceasefire
breakdown so why don't you explain it right?
Speaker 4 (05:03):
If you're going to break a ceasefire, better to have
two pretexts rather than just one pretext. The irony being,
of course, that Israel has been out of compliance with
the ceasefire from the beginning because it a key part
of the agreement was that it would flood in humanitarian aid.
They immediately renegged on that agreement. Humanitarian aid is not
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flooding in. If we lived in a world where we
just followed these things in a neutral and dispassionate way,
we'd say, well, that is a violation of the ceasefire.
I suppose now Hamas is going to just carpet bomb
Tel Aviv as a response to Israel breaking the ceasefire.
But let's get into the two pretexts. The first is
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the claims of an almost identical situation in Rafa, where
what they're saying is that there was basically a cell
and this is within the realm of possibility that a
cell of fighters, whether it's Islama Jahad or Hamas gets
gets cut off, you know, from the rest of the forces,
and they don't and they don't have access to the
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knowledge that this war has ended. Like people on all
sides have acknowledged that this is this is a possibility
and that if you come on these fighters there may
be conflict and that is not if so facto a
breaking of the ceasefire that should launch a full scale war.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
So according to the Israeli side, that is what happened.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
We don't have any information from the Hamas side, which
or the alum at your hot side, which would if.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
It was a fighter who or a group of fighters who.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Were trapped like we wouldn't actually be able to get
any information from Maser right like they just they wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
They wouldn't know about that.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
This is a group they would have lost touch with
many many months ago. The last time they claimed this,
according to my sources, that it was in fact them
just running over an unexploded ordinance or an ied and
then claiming that they had gotten into a confrontation. And
they never backed up their claim of having, you know,
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confronted Palastinian fighters with any any body cam footage, any
any actual anybody captured, any any evidence, any drone footage,
any evidence whatsoever, ballistic, forensic, anything that would have shown
that their story matched up. So I think that at
this point we can say that the explosive, the story
of them running over the explosive is we're going to
lean in that direction. So one Israeli soldier has been
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said by the Israel governors who have been killed, so
that that that that happens. You're not gonna they're not
going to name a person a soldier who died, who
didn't die. So somehow somebody, some Israeli soldier did die.
We also have and we can roll a two here
while I'm explaining this.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
So this is.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
According to this is drone footage put out by the
Israeli military, which and you can go and find the
longer video which claims to have found evidence that Hamas
is playing games with the remains of captives. And this
is actually a an Israeli soldier who was killed about
in twenty twenty four and they Israel, and Israel at
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the time was able to recover most of his remains,
but there was some portion remained with Hamas. And basically
what they're saying happened in this footage is that they
kind of moved it to a particular area and then
called in the Red Cross and called in a photographer
and said, look like we found this body here and
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then and then they turned it over.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
To the Red Cross.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
And what Israel is saying is that this is evidence
that they're playing games and they're stalling for time, and
that in fact, they do know where more of the
remains are than they're letting on.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
This still remains to develop.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
We don't know exactly what happened here, but you can
you can watch the video and see for yourself that
they is really claim look on its face seems to
have some merit.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
To it, and this is what they have released. As
you said, So yeah, I mean, this is one of
those right, and we also.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Have to be extremely careful because any government sure should
be should have its claims treated with extreme skepticism, but
Hamas the government two.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
So it's like, listen, we have no idea there is
I mean, this is part of the difficulty in the
post war collapse of Gaza is that you know, is
there any centralized Hamas in terms of.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
The more to become centralized way, the more.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Exactly, the more they get criticized, the more they get bombed.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
That and should one hundred and two people have been
killed and fifty.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Four one hundred and four Palestinians killed as of this morning,
in retaliation, we don't exactly even know what the retaliatory
strike was, who the people were that were involved.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
And let's think about this in either of these scenarios.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Okay, let's say that you did catch them playing games
with these remains, installing for time. Does that justify a
bombing campaign across Gaza that kills more than one hundred
people and wounds more than two hundred and if if
there if they did encounter a fighter who had been
stuck for eight months in a tunnel and he popped
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up and there was a firefight, does that justify killing
one hundred?
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Well, let me just read from a representative Marjorie Taylor Green.
Israel's military says Wednesday that the ceasefire was back on
in Gaza after killed one hundred and four people, including
forty six children.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Forty six children. Exclamation, Are these not war crimes? Question?
Are those are work? Those are? By definition? Question?
Speaker 3 (10:41):
You can yeah, it almost seems quaint, frankly, after what
we all lived through. We will also note that you know,
from the administration they're still trying desperately to hold this
thing together. Let's put this up here on the screen.
This is A three, Vice President JD. Vance telling reporters
that the Gaza seasefire will hold despite today's exchange of fire.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Quote.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
The ceasefire is holding. That doesn't mean there aren't going
to be little skirmishes here and there. We know that
Hamas or somebody else within Gaza attacked an IDF soldier,
he said, notably avoiding a definitive investment assignment of blame
on Hamas. We expect these Raelis are going to respond,
but I think the President's piece is going to hold
despite that.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Seems interesting.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Ryan currently compare with the statement of center of Secretary
of State Marco Ruby.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
This to set context for Rubio here this this was
on Air Force one before these incidents, and I feel
like Rubio the way he poked in here and put
his face in front of Trump sort of green lilt.
What came next, As we talked about last week, there's
now this deconfliction Zone, which where the US says that
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any response to a ceasefire break has to come through
the United States. The United States is going to make
sure that the piece is maintained through this like two
hundred service member unit. It's deconflictions on and net Yahoo
said publicly, we appreciate the Americans, but of course.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Will never allow that. We are our own sovereign people.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
And so there's been a tug and tug of war
over who gets to break the ceasefire.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Ken Israel just you know, latterly break it.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
And then you have Rubio coming out and basically saying, yeah,
Israel can do whatever it wants. So listen to Marco
Ruby on Air Force one.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Here you talking about the strike against the boss and
a jihad individuals. Yeah, look at Israel and it didn't
surrender his right to self defense. Obviously, the ceasefire is
based on obligations on both sides. By the way, we'd
also like to see Hamas speed up the return of
hostage and bodies was go off thirteen hostages to Americans included,
But we don't view that as a violation of the ceasefire.
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They have a right and something. There's an imminent threat
to Israel and all the mediators agree with that.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
So leaning a little closer to Israel there now.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
But at the same time, as you heard him say,
we don't consider the slow release of the remains to
be a violation of the ceasefire, and that's been a
huge issue in Israel. Well, you really believe that they
have all of the bodies and they're writing about it.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
And actually one of the things that the Hamas has
responded with they say, quote, we confirm that any Zionis
escalation will hinder the search, excavation recovery of the bodies, obviously,
which will lead to a delay in the occupation's recovery
of the bodies of it's dead. Later, Hamasi issue a
statement calling on mediators to take immediate action to pressure
Israel to restrain its escalation against civilians in Gaza and
to compel it fully abide by the ceasefire agreement. What's
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crazy is this morning is Israel now is saying that
they are back in full compliance of the ceasefire.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
So it's one of those where I mean, I don't
really know.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
What ceasefire means if you just get to bomb and
attack each other based on whatever you want. In IDEAF reservist,
by the way, was apparently killed in that Tuesday attack.
I did find it interesting in Rubio's comment he's a
Cahamas or palastining the Islamic Jihad. Maybe you can explain
to this they are not party to the ceasefire.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Correct, they are right.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Well, but this is what I'm trying to get at,
is like politically yes, but this is what I'm saying
in terms of the actual control inside of Gaza, as in,
who know, I mean, you know, there's roving, there's no
central law and order, there's people with guns, you know,
in an area which has been bombed to nothing.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
It'd be like saying.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
That, you know, in the middle of a mad Max collapse,
that certain looters or something speak on behalf of the
entire population.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
It just doesn't really work that way.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Right, And just the way that the kind of defense
of Gaza worked over the last two years, You'd have
all of these different units who were pretty stationary, like
they would move around, but like if you're the Beta
Noon Battalion, you stay in Beta Noon like you're not
you're kind of shifting around the strip.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
And so.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
For operational security, obviously there is not a lot of
like electronic communication going on between a lot of these units,
because you know, Israel has that entire thing, you know,
tapped and wired, and they're gonna and they're gonna map
out these the different flows of communications and just then
start carpet bombing any areas they see being lit up.
And so that was always a question going into the
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ceasefire exactly what you're saying, like, Okay, we've got the
negotiators in you know, in Doha agreeing to this on
behalf of p I J and on behalf of a maas,
but do they speak for every you know, guerrilla unit
in right in Gaza. And the hope was basically from
from the mediators and from everybody involved, was that that
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they that just the pressure of the momentum of the
ceasefire would then kind of basically work to persuade there's
more persuasion, like you're not ordering like these guys. These
guys are armed and they're in these and they're out there.
They can make their own decisions. So yes, that is
a that is a live question here, which when when
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Israel then kills more than one hundred people, think about
what that does to the psychology of these fighters, right
who didn't like the idea of the ceasefire to begin with,
because they're like that, you know, we think for whatever reason,
and then they're like, look, we told.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
You this was it was.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
It's been three weeks exactly, three weeks saying, look, we
told you Israel was never going to buide by this.
Now they just killed another hundred people for nothing.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Right, and so the health ministry, you know, caveats, et cetera.
Forty six children, twenty were women of the one hundred
and four Palestinians who were killed. Interesting, right, in terms
of the Israeli response there, we do have some of
the initial views of what that looks like. Let's go
and put this image up here on the screen. This
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was immediately yesterday in the aftermath of what some of
the attacks actually looked like.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
And all of this actually.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Is in line with this new yellow line. We can
put that up here on the screen for the Wall
Street Journal. Right again, maybe you can help explain it
a little bit to the audience. This so called yellow
line was the demarcation line through which Israel would control
the ceasefire. But from the Wall Street Journal, all they're
saying a trip to the Gaza yellow line shows that
Israel is digging into its positions and seems to creating
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some sort of permanent berm for some sort of buffer zone.
So can you just explain because I believe that the
yellow line that was originally agreed to has now changed
and they're actually occupying more of Goss than they initially
agreed upon.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Right, and so the right the deal was okay, withdraw,
Israel will withdraw back to this yellow line, and then
as soon as they do that, we'll release we being
Hamas will release all of the captives. And so Israel
withdrew back to this yellow line. Hamas res all the captives,
and then people start going back to their homes. People
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came close to this yellow line, it's not marked anywhere
at the time, still is not not really marked, and
so they go to say eastern Gaza City where they
where their homes are, and they would be shot and
killed like an entire bus, a family in a bus,
the entire family killed it inside this bus.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
And so.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
You had then this kind of contradictory impulse on both sides.
The humanitarian organization would say, well, wait a minute, this
is not fair. You're not marking, like you're not even
telling people what kind of sick game is this, Like
people just have to guess, and as well say, well,
we published maps, they should be able to look at
the map, but people can't even recognize their own neighborhoods
because it's just completely rubble.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
And think about as you think about as.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
You're walking through your own neighborhood, like the different ways
that you know how to get around, Like there's this
giant tree, there's this yellow house at the corner, there's the.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Gas station here.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Now imagine you've been away for eight months, you come back,
the tree has gone, the gas station is a pilot rubble,
the yellow house is a pilot rubble.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
The red house that you knew was a pile of rubble.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Like, at that point, how do you even find your way?
So saying that, hey, we there's a map on Facebook
that you can look at, isn't very helpful a peoples.
Then they said, okay, we're going to put out yellow
markers like every two hundred meters or something, also not
extraordinarily helpful. Now they're building much more significant reinforcements. And
then you see the contradictory nature of it. They're like,
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oh wait a minute. So now basically this is just
going to become your territory because what's inside the kind
of Hamas controlled area, if you want to call it,
that is west is basically western Gaza, but not northern
and southern.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
And then not the eastern.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Part either, it's like just the inner slice of it
and all of the kind of agricultural area, lots of
area that used to be heavily populated as all within
this Israeli zone. And they ironically, I saw some I
think propagandists calling it like free Gaza. It's like, no, no, no,
the part that's occupied by Israel can't really call that
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free Gaza. But they're what they're setting up is just
never leaving this area like that that seems to be.
And that's what the Walls Ree Journal suggests here that
like they're they're reinforcing this in a in a fundamental way.
And the irony being that they were negotiating over whether
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the buffer zone at the edge of Gaza would be
eight hundred meters or twelve hundred meters, and now Israel
seems to be trying to create a reality where they're
just way.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Inside there and so broadly here with the ceasefire, Ryn,
what what do you expect, you know, in terms of
how this all plays out, because it flagged by our
producer Mac. Let's put this up here on the screen,
Nata Nanu's testimony. If you're all wondering in his criminal
trial was cut short today yesterday over quote security developments
(20:44):
that happened.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
In amazing coincidence. It just keeps happening, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
So it's one of those where is it every single
time that he's going to have to testify that there
just happens to be some sort of pretexting gaza like
at the subject of these really political you know sphere
of what's happening, and then apparently America is just you
know fine with them violating the ceasefire and encroaching here
on the Yellow line. It just looks very grim and
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all the cynics you know, initially talking about the seasfire
seem pretty vindicated, I think.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Today, Yeah, I wish we would just give the guy asylum,
like political asylum, get a place in South Florida.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Like it is.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
It is not fair for one hundred plus Palestinians to
have to die so that he can delay.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
A criminal trials.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
That's no reason for anybody to lose a life, like
just just end this like it's yeah, but yes, this
has been. This is whenever he's gotten into political trouble
or criminal trouble over the last two years, you've seen
you strategy change and tactics change around around the attack
on Gaza, and we're still seeing that we do a
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brief update on what's going on.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Yes, you're going to have to fully brief all of us.
I know this has happened overnight here, but I do
think it's an important story.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yes, So Sudan, this killing.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Yeah, in the town of El Foscher was where the
kind of Syrian army capital has been in North Darfur.
And there's been this civil war going on since twenty
twenty three, and the UAE has come in heavily. United
Arab Emirates has come in heavily on the side of
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what's called the RSF Rapid Support Forces. And a year
ago the US State Department said to RSF is committing
ethnic cleansing in Darfur and in Sudan, and the support
of the UAE.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Has continued, continue to pay. So you can put up
put up a.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Eight here, and so l l Foger El Foger finally
yesterday and over the last couple of days, but it
has kind of now fully fallen to the RSF. And
what you're looking at here are a ton of people
rounded up by the RSF who as we understand it.
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And there is much more disturbing video that would confirm
this that we're not going to show you here.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Were then executed.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
And this is not the first time that the RSF
has taken over a city and estimates of civilian massacres
as a result have been over ten thousand, like in
a particular city like this, absolute horrific bloodbath if you
(23:39):
can put up a nine. A lot of the OCID
people online are saying they have never seen.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Visible blood blood this from space. But what precipitated this?
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Well, so what precipitated this precisely is l Fosher has
been basically surrounded by the r s F for a
year and a half and it is a It's one
of the remaining key strongholds of their of the s
a F, their opposition and what and so what precipitated
the master was that there they finally managed to break
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through and take it. What precipitated it more broadly is
is gold. Basically, you know, Sudan has you know, significant
wealth underneath.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Its And why is the UAE supporting this malus So
the u A Well, the UAE.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Has this massive Africa play that's that has been doing
it had, the u A has. The u AU is
supporting African proxy forces all over the continent, like absolutely everywhere.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
And the u A, like like Cutter, is.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Technically a country, but it's you know, it's more like
an investment vehicle slash mafia, that is that is trying
to figure out how to take this wealth that has
come out of the ground, this fossil fuel wealth that
it's created in the last several decades, and only several decades,
like fifty years ago or so. This is a deeply
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poor area. Now it's like the richest place on Earth.
They know that that's not going to last forever. At
some point you tap the last bit of natural cost
and oil, and so they're their question is what next
for us? And what's next for them? Is that they
are They're they're building ports and and creating alliances all
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over over Africa for the continued extraction of natural resources
and funding all of these civil conflicts to make it
easier for them to then to then get access oftentimes
kind of arming, arming both sides.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Of the conflict.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
But in this case, they've really thrown their lot in
with RSF and we could put up a eleven real
quick to show that how how much this is escalating.
So this is the Foreign Foreign Relations chairman saying, quote
the horrors, the Republican the horrors and Darfur's l Fauscher
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were no accident.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
They were the rsf's plan all along. I think that's true.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
The RSF has waged terror and committed unspeakable atrocities, genocide
among them, against the Sudanese people. The r SF must
be called what it is, a foreign terrorist organization and
officially designated as one. America is not safe for secure
or more prosperous with the RSF slaughtering thousands, and so
you know, to hear to hear Jim rish Of talk
(26:40):
like that make then makes you ask the question, Wait
a minute, hold on a second. So you're saying that
our ally, the UEE is major terrorist financer, because that
that's what you have to say, if like, if you
agree with that statement, which.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Can I can I put my cynic ad on here
a little bit? You know, whenever it's a conflict that
doesn't involve Israel, unspeakable atrocities in genocide amongst them. Right,
Darfur was the original one of the original you know,
quote unquote genocides of the twenty first century. In the
early two thousands, after Rwanda, it was supposed to be
(27:16):
never again. It actually didn't really work. Why does America
suddenly care? They say America is not safe for secure
or more prosperous with rfs slaughtering thousands? Is there a
deeper thing going on here? Or is this just exposed
like the human rights industrial complex?
Speaker 1 (27:32):
So I wish ken Vogel was here because it'd bean.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
I'm curious, like who's doing like which different faction ken
Vogel being the Times reporter that we interviewed.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yes, you guys also interviewed who does all the foreign lobbying?
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Yeah, it's a good question, like what foreign lobbying is
going on that gets statements like this.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
On the other.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Hand, the level of atrocity is reaching like heights that
are difficult to ignore even for Americans when it comes
to Africa. You know, Americans are pretty good at ignoring it.
What's going on in Africa just across the board and
ignoring you know, things almost everywhere, including even people say, oh,
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what about the protests around Gaza, But you know, Gaza
like has significantly fallen off the last year or so.
You know, mainstream news also like it's just the US.
It's just not something that people are paying attention to.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
So, yeah, I don't know exactly what's.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Going on in Washington that is making that is now
putting this pressure on the UE's proxies in Sudan, but
I'm sure they're and I think like kill They also
posted they were a little bit more aggressive in what
they posted on social media this time than in the
last you know, mass masscer of ten to fifteen thousand
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people didn't they didn't elevate it in the same way.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Yeah, but if I were the Pseudanese, I'd be like,
you people are really gonna lecture me about you know,
about the massacres and you know, after what you've just
funded going on in Israel.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
They kind of have a point, right, And.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Same with the UAI, They're like, really, like, you're going
to talk to me about who I cant send money to,
whether it's in my strategic interest or I'll get out
of here.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
What did the RF surrounded in an area and wouldn't
let food exactly and then killing them? Yeah, I don't know,
it's dark. No, yes, opening opening that that and letting
that out into the world.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
I also think that explains to social media activity. They're like,
we can post whatever, right, we can do what we want.
We can do anything that we want.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Look, because they're seeing it on their phones out of
gods all day, and of course they're doing this exactly,
we're going to do this.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
It's very sad as I'm glad you are following it.
I honestly, I hate to say, I haven't really been
familiar follow It's a big world, little bit back twentye ago,
so exactly, you know, a lot, not a huge ton
of like US strategic interests or any of that in
the region, but so uly Washington is waking up. I will,
I'll be honest with you, even though I obviously see
what's happening here. Anytime I start to see the word
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genocide and all that's being turned just thrown around by
the State Department, I'm like, something's going on here, you know,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Know exactly what it is. I'm a little suspicious.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Suddenly Mark or Rubio cares about human rights and all
of that.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
I'm like, I don't know about.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
This, ye ran, yeah, and we could end this overnight tune.
You're like, look, you're getting sanctioned and you your whole
little somber wealth fund here.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Yeah, they will never do that, especially fun first offital
what we did, We're fine with it, Saudi's and Yemen.
This is just long standing US policy.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
I'm always just fascinated about what we get, what everyone
in Washington starts to care about. Yeah, And the reason
my spidy senses go up is I'm like, it's never
about the actual killings. There's usually something else going on,
and I'm.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Just you know, and the UAE ses this has a
sphere of influence for them too. They can have geopolitical advantages,
like they know the UA hates some US as well,
And there was this push a year ago, what if
we get everybody in Homsta just go to Sudan, so
and so. In order to do that, the RSF has
to like then take over all of Darfur, which they
basically now control. Like they're what and what what they
(31:12):
are also finding it's the same thing that Israel's arguing
to the public, which is that you can actually just
do the ethnic cleansing, you can do the genus I
get away with it, and then people will forget about it.
It's more important to win, and then people will just
move on so oursef is right now and in brutal
fashion winning.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yes, well, look at Azerbaijan mean the same, same exact.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Thing, not that anybody apparently here cared. Let's get to
the storm, shall we thank you for that update.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Ryan.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Let's go ahead and put this up on the screen.
We have an update here from Ryan Hall, the weather
YouTuber extraordinary who does a fantastic job. We have been covering,
of course, and just you know, noting the category five
hurricane Melissa which made landfall yesterday with Jamaica some one
hundred eighty mile per hour winds.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Here's what you have to say.
Speaker 6 (32:02):
We've got a breaking update from the National Hurricane Center.
This is a special tropical cyclone update on Hurricane Melissa.
At one pm Eastern, Category five Hurricane Melissa made landfall
in the southwestern Jamaica area near New Hope. This is
now confirmed to be one of the most powerful, powerful
hurricane landfalls ever recorded in the entire Atlantic basin. The
(32:24):
one hundred and eighty five mile per hour winds and
the central pressure of eight hundred and ninety two millibars,
those numbers are historic.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Historic numbers, he says, and we have some video guys,
that's going to put that up there on the screen.
Now that it has made landfall, you can just see
some of the images that came out of Jamaica and
some of the damage. Already we're still in the initial
phases of learning exactly what happened. They say that Cuba
actually evacuated some seven hundred and fifty thousand people ahead
of the storm. Where you can see, you know, the
(32:53):
infrastructure and some of the images that were coming out
of Jamaica, and also you know, noting just generally like
the overall I mentioned, Oh my god, I mean, that's
just so terrifying right in the middle of the Caribbean.
Category five one of the most powerful storms literally ever recorded.
So it's pretty scary that this is happening. Not to
mention as I said that at the very same time
(33:15):
that you can see you look at that difference in
the image here.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
It's just totally nuts.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
And what I think Ryan and others were noting was
the level of the intensity in the storm. So obviously
some big, you know, domestic questions here. First of all,
you know, this is just the beginning of hurricane season.
We are in the middle of a government shutdown, are
the Weather Service in the National Oceanic Administration and others
who track some of these hurricanes.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Are they going to be fully up to staff.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
But you know, one of the domestic angles that I
just think nobody's really paying attention to are all of
these thousands of service members who are in the middle
of the Caribbean. Put this up here, police on the screen.
You know, it says, Hurricane Melissa collides with the US
military mission in the Caribbean. Military campaign against the drug cartels.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Legend so called.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Drug cartels in Latin America could soon reckon with the
natural disaster a humanitarian crises in the region. Eight warships
collectively carrying six thousand troops several dozen aircraft are assembled
in the region for the Trump administration's military strikes, but
many of the personnel are also trained, apparently to respond
to natural disasters, serving on ships with a long track
(34:21):
record of doing so in the southcom area. The Hurricane
Melissa obviously is going to cause a tremendous amount of
damage in the region. Kind Of one of the long
standing things that the US would always do is when
there's a hurricane in Haiti or somewhere, they'll show up
with the big show force drop off a bunch of eighties.
So it's a genuine question here as to whether they're
going to do anything or whether they're just going to
(34:42):
stay parked there to try and blow up as you know, fishermen,
drugs boats as possible. That's one, But second is just
it highlights that despite this, the fact that it is
a hurricane season, these thousands of service members are in
these waters, and the US S gerald Ford, one of
the large aircraft carriers in the world, is headed there
right now as we speak, and all of them are
(35:04):
just going to be sitting in these hurricane prone you
know situation. It's dangerous number one, you know, no matter what.
And then of course it gets to the for what question,
which of course we've covered here excessively.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Yeah, and so the Navy says they're monitoring the storm,
of course, and and we'll you know, are working to
keep make sure that they're not directly impacted by it.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
But yeah, that wouldn't that be great if if the
US military.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Actually, like when when the storm passes, they they're like,
you know what, instead of doing regime change in Venezuela,
we are We're going to go to Jamaica. Yeah, we're
going to disembark and we're gonna we're gonna help everybody
clean up here. We're we're going to really throw our
back into this because we're all one people here, we're
all one hemisphere, we're all we're all together.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Trump could even go over and you know, throw the
paper towels at people.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
He loves doing that.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
I don't expect that's going to happen, but I guess
anything's possible. Meanwhile, the you know, the strikes continue, it's
it does seem like they've moved more to the Pacific side.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Yes, lately they have.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Lately, they've moved the striking boats on the Pacific side.
And as we've said before, like whether the boats have
drugs on them or not, like most likely the people
on the boats are actually fishermen, like fishermen who are
who are either paid an enormous fortune to make one
(36:24):
run or told you're doing this run for us, or
we're going to kill your sister, like or a combination.
Don't do this run and we'll kill your sister. Do
the run, and we're going to give you twenty thousand dollars,
which is more than you make in like five years.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Yeah, this latest one, we're not exactly sure even where
it took place. They said it was an international water
somewhere in the Pacific Ocean near the coast of Mexico.
And apparently, even though fourteen people were killed in the attacks,
they said that there was one person who survived the strikes.
According to Mexican search and rescue authorities quote accepted the
(37:03):
case and assumed responsibility for coordinating the rescue. The condition
of the survivor is remains unclear. Mexico's navy said that
it had dispatched a patrol voat and aircraft to safeguard
human life at c The Mexican President, Claudia Scheinbaum at
this morning said quote, we do not agree with these attacks.
Said she had asked the country's foreign minister as well
(37:23):
as representatives to meet the US ambassador and says, quote
all international treaties need to be respected. So that some
fifty seven people now who have been killed in the strikes,
the overall picture of the strikes is it just makes
no sense, you know, in a lot of different ways,
because all of this presumes a naval campaign or a
campaign at sea for drugs.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
I mean literally.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Yesterday Ryan, after being sent this report. The twenty twenty
five National Drug Enforcement DEA Estimate mentions Venezuela exactly seven times.
Of those seven they all talk about trend A Arragua.
They only mention street level drug trafficking, street level small
(38:08):
level drug trafficking. It has no mention of fentanyl. I
read extensively through the fentanyl section that was provided to
me of this twenty twenty five. I think the entire
fentanyl section is focused on Mexico and land routes to
the United States via the border. These boat is trifling,
it's not. It's literally if anything, Actually, listen, I don't
(38:31):
want to sound like I'm defending cocaine or anything, but
if you're going to use the fentanyl pretext, if the
boat's coming from Colombia, that's actually a good tell that
it doesn't have fentanyl, right because that means is straight
up Colombian.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
You know, a pure cocaine. That's the pure stuff. That's
probably what these people are are paying for. Right.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
So again, you know, I don't support cocaine. I would
like for it to be burned.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Out one sea. If the boat comes to Mexico, then
it right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Right, so if the if the boat goes to Mexico,
it's actually different story. And from what I read again,
this is our own government. This is by the way,
Donald Trump's DEA put out this report just a few
short months ago, and I'm reading through the fentanyl section
last night. They have the whole thing mapped out, even
to the interstates of where all of the fentanyl is
coming from, including the Chinese precursors that are making their
(39:21):
way to Mexico.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
All of this.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
Actually just spoke yesterday with a very knowledgeable source about
what was happening inside of Mexico. Apparently Shinbaum and others
have pretty significantly cut down the amount of fentanyl coming
across the board.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
There's two reasons.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Number one is the border is much more close, so
there's many migrants coming across. Makes sense, of course the
drug traffickers can't take advantage of that. But two is,
actually there's been a Mexican deployment to the US Mexico border,
which is not entirely shutting down, I mean not feasible
to say zero amount of fenchanyl, but a much smaller
amount of fenanyl is currently making its way to the US.
(39:55):
So most of these are just show of four strikes
for a purpose which remains, you know, entirely mysterious unless
you start to look at regime change in Venezuela, even
though these are happening in the Pacific Ocean, not that
you know, anybody apparently even keeps track anymore. Also, if
this guy survived, so then why why wouldn't you go
get him, you know, why wouldn't you go send him.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
To court some cartl leader over here. Yeah, of course,
you remember that case of piracy.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
I was thinking about that recently, that movie, you know,
Captain Phillips, the USS mersk Alabama, and they captured that
I forget exactly his Somali name, but they captured the
pirate or FBI arrested him. He was repatriated to the
United States by the FBI. He was actually arrested by
FBI agents, I'm pretty sure, or he was transferred the
(40:43):
FBI custody. He was put on trial actually here in
you I think he's in the US Federal penitentiary right
now on the charge of piracy. So if you do
survive the attack, presumably you would want to take that
person prosecute and put him at trial. Instead, they're like,
now he can go back to Mexico. So then why
did you kill him?
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Right? It makes no sense.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
So yeah, and I was talking to somebody who did
just recently left the coast Guard doing drug interdictions in
the Caribbean.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
And he was saying that you generally can you generally.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
Can tell a fishing boat, you know, not a boat
that's carrying drugs from a boat that is just generally
used for fishing. Fishing boats have kind of more people
on them. Drug boats, they've got the extra motors. You
can kind of see, he's like, but oftentimes it looks
like they're they're gauging just by kind of trajectory of
(41:35):
the boat. And he said they would do that as well,
like you'd look at the trajectory of where the boat's
going and that would be your first clue.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
And he'd say somewhere.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
They'd be right about half to three quarters of the
time on those because what they do is they go
up to the boat and we're like, hey, this Coastguard stop.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
You know, we're going to board you and search you.
Speaker 4 (41:55):
And then they'd search and me like, oh, okay, we're wrong, sorry,
go on about your business.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Interesting, But if you're.
Speaker 4 (42:02):
Just bombing them from the are Yeah, you're going to
be right half to three quarters of the time that
you're going to be wrong a quarter or two a.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Half of the time.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
This is all in international watt. Nobody even knows where
this is. Nobody knows where it took place. They say
it's off the coast of Mexico where you know, to
what except literally no coordinates, nothing like just a picture
that's released by Secretary Hegseth from the Department, you know,
from the DD and you're just like, okay, you know
that's the only information, and that's just to show everybody
the bias to implicit you know, why is the Washington
(42:32):
Post saying against drug cartels? It's not even true, Like
there's no evidence that that's true. Right, It's crazy, Like
they just take this stuff and they run with this,
even with Venezuela, like nobody interrogates the central premise at
the heart of this entire thing. And it's ramping up.
This is all you know.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
It's slowly, slowly, slowly happening.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
And I think actually this week will be a big
jump point for Venezuela, not just because of the hurricane.
Because the hurricane, like I said, the military is actually
going to have to make a choice. Do we leave
here and kind of abandon the pressure campaign on Maduro
or do we try and go do some humanitarian assistance.
Who knows right, but that you know, the resources are finite.
That's why all of this does connect together.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
Yeah, and it shows how quickly the conscience of a
country can be corrupted. Because when you're watching like do
Terte and the Philippines, where he's just going around just
executing drug dealers in the streets, like you can you
can imagine how in the Philippines the debate would have
turned to, well, was that a fruit.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Seller or was that a drug dealer?
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Rather than we don't we're sure that did happen those
time if I remember.
Speaker 4 (43:39):
Right, Yeah, Yeah, that's what the debate would shift to,
rather than we don't want death squads just extra judicially
killing anybody like we have. We've tried to develop a
civilized society. Let's try to keep that. And so you
can see it in our own national conversation, this is
(43:59):
a drug or is it not a drug boat? Rather
than let's just not have death squads from the air
burning people alive.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
Who knows, who knows where things are going to go
in all this, but everybody keep an eye on the hurricane. Obviously,
first of all, just with the people of Jamaica's horrific
who have to deal with that. And then we have
our own troops who are in the waters. They themselves,
the United States military, are going to have to make
a choice, all while this escalating air campaign against Venezuela continues. Hopefully,
Ryan and I'll have some more reporting on that later
(44:29):
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That's right.
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Always a pleasure.
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Well, but mostly thank you to Emily for letting me
swap around with her.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Oh my god. All right, here's the tough part of
the job. What do we have today? Israel? Okay, we're
going to start with Israel.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Breaking the ceasefire bombing parts of Gaza, where you talk
about their pretext, will analyze some of what that is.
Then Ryan is going to give us an update on
some horrific developments in South Sudan or sorry, no, in Sudan.
I'm not exactly familiar the RSF. There's a UAE back
militia and lots of killing. It's just a horrific, horrific story.
(01:20):
We're going to talk about the storm Hurricane Melissa made
landfall yesterday in Jamaica, as well as the fact that
there are thousands, thousands of American service members currently in
Caribbean waters, remember, as part of this Venezuelan regime change operation.
And there's some big question marks actually as to their
own role. Are they going to continue with drug interdiction
(01:41):
or they going to help with hurricane relief? They themselves
potentially could be at risk succording to some sources that
I spoke to, We're going to get over to open AI.
There is a new story from chatchept that nearly a
million people are actually interacting with chat GPT on the
issue of mental illness and suicide. In addition to a
major will blower inside of Chat GPT warning not to
(02:04):
not to believe sam Altman's claims about AI pornography, which
I believe we covered in our last one.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
And it's a very disappointment because I really like my
last guess was to just trust Sam Altman.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah. And if we can't trust sam Altman.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Yeah, if we can't trust who, indeed can we all trust?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
By the way, you'll all be happy to know that the.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
State of California has helped Sam Altman and Open Ai
transform into a for profit company, So now we can
just get rid of that pesky little nonprofit status.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Lovely for him.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Yes, thank you to the State of California, to Gavin
Newsom and all the officials there who assisted the multi billionaire.
We are going to talk about Sammi Hamdi Ryan, You're
going to give us a breakdown on this. He's a
British political commentator, he's a critical of Israel and he
was detained at a California airport.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Current political prisoner. Yeah, well in the United States, Like.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Has he been deported or is he Okay? Wow, okay,
still yt there on Sammy Hamdy rings a little, isn't it.
Whenever we critique the UK for.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Doing the exact thing. Yeah, a little tough.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Let them speak freely over here, but if they come here, right,
they're going to prison.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
That's right, exactly. All right, let's go to top. We're
also going to talk about Snap.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Actually, by the way, we talked touch a little bit
on it yesterday, But then there's some brinksmanship going on
within the current United States government about whether some forty
two million Americans who are dependent on the SNAP food
stamp program are going to receive some of their payments
and benefits on Friday. I believe there's some fiscal cliff issues,
but there are claims that the administration actually could pay
(03:34):
them if they wanted to. There's actually some Republican efforts
to try and to immediately fund the SNAP program, but
that is getting poured cold water on by the White
House and by Senate leadership. So you know, this is
when the shutdown really actually might start to impact millions
of people's lives outside of the DMV here, not to
say that it already hasn't, but in particular, really a
(03:54):
tangible thing in addition to air traffic control problems that
we've seen across the country. Finally, we're going to talk
with Ben Smith about China. He wrote a very interesting piece, actually,
I really liked it, and it says Trump is poised
to end Washington's.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Decade of the Chinahawks. Very astute.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Actually in terms of where things are going, you'd probably
have tracked my own evolution on the issue if you've
been watching over the last seven or eight years, and
it is of course something that any future politician is
going to have to grapple with before we get to that.
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with growth. Let's go and put this then up on
the screen. Israel has resumed the Gaza ceasefire now after
some one hundred and four Palestinians were killed in air strikes.
Prime Minister in Netanyah, who ordered quote powerful strikes in
Gaza as the ceasefire breaks down, I'm going to kick
it to Ryan because Ryan, I don't really know there
(04:57):
were two separate instances of their claims or the ceasefire
breakdown so why don't you explain it right?
Speaker 4 (05:03):
If you're going to break a ceasefire, better to have
two pretexts rather than just one pretext. The irony being,
of course, that Israel has been out of compliance with
the ceasefire from the beginning because it a key part
of the agreement was that it would flood in humanitarian aid.
They immediately renegged on that agreement. Humanitarian aid is not
(05:24):
flooding in. If we lived in a world where we
just followed these things in a neutral and dispassionate way,
we'd say, well, that is a violation of the ceasefire.
I suppose now Hamas is going to just carpet bomb
Tel Aviv as a response to Israel breaking the ceasefire.
But let's get into the two pretexts. The first is
(05:45):
the claims of an almost identical situation in Rafa, where
what they're saying is that there was basically a cell
and this is within the realm of possibility that a
cell of fighters, whether it's Islama Jahad or Hamas gets
gets cut off, you know, from the rest of the forces,
and they don't and they don't have access to the
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knowledge that this war has ended. Like people on all
sides have acknowledged that this is this is a possibility
and that if you come on these fighters there may
be conflict and that is not if so facto a
breaking of the ceasefire that should launch a full scale war.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
So according to the Israeli side, that is what happened.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
We don't have any information from the Hamas side, which
or the alum at your hot side, which would if.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
It was a fighter who or a group of fighters who.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Were trapped like we wouldn't actually be able to get
any information from Maser right like they just they wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
They wouldn't know about that.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
This is a group they would have lost touch with
many many months ago. The last time they claimed this,
according to my sources, that it was in fact them
just running over an unexploded ordinance or an ied and
then claiming that they had gotten into a confrontation. And
they never backed up their claim of having, you know,
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confronted Palastinian fighters with any any body cam footage, any
any actual anybody captured, any any evidence, any drone footage,
any evidence whatsoever, ballistic, forensic, anything that would have shown
that their story matched up. So I think that at
this point we can say that the explosive, the story
of them running over the explosive is we're going to
lean in that direction. So one Israeli soldier has been
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said by the Israel governors who have been killed, so
that that that that happens. You're not gonna they're not
going to name a person a soldier who died, who
didn't die. So somehow somebody, some Israeli soldier did die.
We also have and we can roll a two here
while I'm explaining this.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
So this is.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
According to this is drone footage put out by the
Israeli military, which and you can go and find the
longer video which claims to have found evidence that Hamas
is playing games with the remains of captives. And this
is actually a an Israeli soldier who was killed about
in twenty twenty four and they Israel, and Israel at
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the time was able to recover most of his remains,
but there was some portion remained with Hamas. And basically
what they're saying happened in this footage is that they
kind of moved it to a particular area and then
called in the Red Cross and called in a photographer
and said, look like we found this body here and
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then and then they turned it over.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
To the Red Cross.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
And what Israel is saying is that this is evidence
that they're playing games and they're stalling for time, and
that in fact, they do know where more of the
remains are than they're letting on.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
This still remains to develop.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
We don't know exactly what happened here, but you can
you can watch the video and see for yourself that
they is really claim look on its face seems to
have some merit.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
To it, and this is what they have released. As
you said, So yeah, I mean, this is one of
those right, and we also.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Have to be extremely careful because any government sure should
be should have its claims treated with extreme skepticism, but
Hamas the government two.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
So it's like, listen, we have no idea there is
I mean, this is part of the difficulty in the
post war collapse of Gaza is that you know, is
there any centralized Hamas in terms of.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
The more to become centralized way, the more.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Exactly, the more they get criticized, the more they get bombed.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
That and should one hundred and two people have been
killed and fifty.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Four one hundred and four Palestinians killed as of this morning,
in retaliation, we don't exactly even know what the retaliatory
strike was, who the people were that were involved.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
And let's think about this in either of these scenarios.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Okay, let's say that you did catch them playing games
with these remains, installing for time. Does that justify a
bombing campaign across Gaza that kills more than one hundred
people and wounds more than two hundred and if if
there if they did encounter a fighter who had been
stuck for eight months in a tunnel and he popped
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up and there was a firefight, does that justify killing
one hundred?
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Well, let me just read from a representative Marjorie Taylor Green.
Israel's military says Wednesday that the ceasefire was back on
in Gaza after killed one hundred and four people, including
forty six children.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Forty six children. Exclamation, Are these not war crimes? Question?
Are those are work? Those are? By definition? Question?
Speaker 3 (10:41):
You can yeah, it almost seems quaint, frankly, after what
we all lived through. We will also note that you know,
from the administration they're still trying desperately to hold this
thing together. Let's put this up here on the screen.
This is A three, Vice President JD. Vance telling reporters
that the Gaza seasefire will hold despite today's exchange of fire.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Quote.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
The ceasefire is holding. That doesn't mean there aren't going
to be little skirmishes here and there. We know that
Hamas or somebody else within Gaza attacked an IDF soldier,
he said, notably avoiding a definitive investment assignment of blame
on Hamas. We expect these Raelis are going to respond,
but I think the President's piece is going to hold
despite that.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Seems interesting.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Ryan currently compare with the statement of center of Secretary
of State Marco Ruby.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
This to set context for Rubio here this this was
on Air Force one before these incidents, and I feel
like Rubio the way he poked in here and put
his face in front of Trump sort of green lilt.
What came next, As we talked about last week, there's
now this deconfliction Zone, which where the US says that
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any response to a ceasefire break has to come through
the United States. The United States is going to make
sure that the piece is maintained through this like two
hundred service member unit. It's deconflictions on and net Yahoo
said publicly, we appreciate the Americans, but of course.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Will never allow that. We are our own sovereign people.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
And so there's been a tug and tug of war
over who gets to break the ceasefire.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Ken Israel just you know, latterly break it.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
And then you have Rubio coming out and basically saying, yeah,
Israel can do whatever it wants. So listen to Marco
Ruby on Air Force one.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Here you talking about the strike against the boss and
a jihad individuals. Yeah, look at Israel and it didn't
surrender his right to self defense. Obviously, the ceasefire is
based on obligations on both sides. By the way, we'd
also like to see Hamas speed up the return of
hostage and bodies was go off thirteen hostages to Americans included,
But we don't view that as a violation of the ceasefire.
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They have a right and something. There's an imminent threat
to Israel and all the mediators agree with that.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
So leaning a little closer to Israel there now.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
But at the same time, as you heard him say,
we don't consider the slow release of the remains to
be a violation of the ceasefire, and that's been a
huge issue in Israel. Well, you really believe that they
have all of the bodies and they're writing about it.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
And actually one of the things that the Hamas has
responded with they say, quote, we confirm that any Zionis
escalation will hinder the search, excavation recovery of the bodies, obviously,
which will lead to a delay in the occupation's recovery
of the bodies of it's dead. Later, Hamasi issue a
statement calling on mediators to take immediate action to pressure
Israel to restrain its escalation against civilians in Gaza and
to compel it fully abide by the ceasefire agreement. What's
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crazy is this morning is Israel now is saying that
they are back in full compliance of the ceasefire.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
So it's one of those where I mean, I don't
really know.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
What ceasefire means if you just get to bomb and
attack each other based on whatever you want. In IDEAF reservist,
by the way, was apparently killed in that Tuesday attack.
I did find it interesting in Rubio's comment he's a
Cahamas or palastining the Islamic Jihad. Maybe you can explain
to this they are not party to the ceasefire.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Correct, they are right.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Well, but this is what I'm trying to get at,
is like politically yes, but this is what I'm saying
in terms of the actual control inside of Gaza, as in,
who know, I mean, you know, there's roving, there's no
central law and order, there's people with guns, you know,
in an area which has been bombed to nothing.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
It'd be like saying.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
That, you know, in the middle of a mad Max collapse,
that certain looters or something speak on behalf of the
entire population.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
It just doesn't really work that way.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Right, And just the way that the kind of defense
of Gaza worked over the last two years, You'd have
all of these different units who were pretty stationary, like
they would move around, but like if you're the Beta
Noon Battalion, you stay in Beta Noon like you're not
you're kind of shifting around the strip.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
And so.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
For operational security, obviously there is not a lot of
like electronic communication going on between a lot of these units,
because you know, Israel has that entire thing, you know,
tapped and wired, and they're gonna and they're gonna map
out these the different flows of communications and just then
start carpet bombing any areas they see being lit up.
And so that was always a question going into the
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ceasefire exactly what you're saying, like, Okay, we've got the
negotiators in you know, in Doha agreeing to this on
behalf of p I J and on behalf of a maas,
but do they speak for every you know, guerrilla unit
in right in Gaza. And the hope was basically from
from the mediators and from everybody involved, was that that
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they that just the pressure of the momentum of the
ceasefire would then kind of basically work to persuade there's
more persuasion, like you're not ordering like these guys. These
guys are armed and they're in these and they're out there.
They can make their own decisions. So yes, that is
a that is a live question here, which when when
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Israel then kills more than one hundred people, think about
what that does to the psychology of these fighters, right
who didn't like the idea of the ceasefire to begin with,
because they're like that, you know, we think for whatever reason,
and then they're like, look, we told.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
You this was it was.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
It's been three weeks exactly, three weeks saying, look, we
told you Israel was never going to buide by this.
Now they just killed another hundred people for nothing.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Right, and so the health ministry, you know, caveats, et cetera.
Forty six children, twenty were women of the one hundred
and four Palestinians who were killed. Interesting, right, in terms
of the Israeli response there, we do have some of
the initial views of what that looks like. Let's go
and put this image up here on the screen. This
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was immediately yesterday in the aftermath of what some of
the attacks actually looked like.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
And all of this actually.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Is in line with this new yellow line. We can
put that up here on the screen for the Wall
Street Journal. Right again, maybe you can help explain it
a little bit to the audience. This so called yellow
line was the demarcation line through which Israel would control
the ceasefire. But from the Wall Street Journal, all they're
saying a trip to the Gaza yellow line shows that
Israel is digging into its positions and seems to creating
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some sort of permanent berm for some sort of buffer zone.
So can you just explain because I believe that the
yellow line that was originally agreed to has now changed
and they're actually occupying more of Goss than they initially
agreed upon.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Right, and so the right the deal was okay, withdraw,
Israel will withdraw back to this yellow line, and then
as soon as they do that, we'll release we being
Hamas will release all of the captives. And so Israel
withdrew back to this yellow line. Hamas res all the captives,
and then people start going back to their homes. People
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came close to this yellow line, it's not marked anywhere
at the time, still is not not really marked, and
so they go to say eastern Gaza City where they
where their homes are, and they would be shot and
killed like an entire bus, a family in a bus,
the entire family killed it inside this bus.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
And so.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
You had then this kind of contradictory impulse on both sides.
The humanitarian organization would say, well, wait a minute, this
is not fair. You're not marking, like you're not even
telling people what kind of sick game is this, Like
people just have to guess, and as well say, well,
we published maps, they should be able to look at
the map, but people can't even recognize their own neighborhoods
because it's just completely rubble.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
And think about as you think about as.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
You're walking through your own neighborhood, like the different ways
that you know how to get around, Like there's this
giant tree, there's this yellow house at the corner, there's the.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Gas station here.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Now imagine you've been away for eight months, you come back,
the tree has gone, the gas station is a pilot rubble,
the yellow house is a pilot rubble.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
The red house that you knew was a pile of rubble.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Like, at that point, how do you even find your way?
So saying that, hey, we there's a map on Facebook
that you can look at, isn't very helpful a peoples.
Then they said, okay, we're going to put out yellow
markers like every two hundred meters or something, also not
extraordinarily helpful. Now they're building much more significant reinforcements. And
then you see the contradictory nature of it. They're like,
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oh wait a minute. So now basically this is just
going to become your territory because what's inside the kind
of Hamas controlled area, if you want to call it,
that is west is basically western Gaza, but not northern
and southern.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
And then not the eastern.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Part either, it's like just the inner slice of it
and all of the kind of agricultural area, lots of
area that used to be heavily populated as all within
this Israeli zone. And they ironically, I saw some I
think propagandists calling it like free Gaza. It's like, no, no, no,
the part that's occupied by Israel can't really call that
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free Gaza. But they're what they're setting up is just
never leaving this area like that that seems to be.
And that's what the Walls Ree Journal suggests here that
like they're they're reinforcing this in a in a fundamental way.
And the irony being that they were negotiating over whether
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the buffer zone at the edge of Gaza would be
eight hundred meters or twelve hundred meters, and now Israel
seems to be trying to create a reality where they're
just way.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Inside there and so broadly here with the ceasefire, Ryn,
what what do you expect, you know, in terms of
how this all plays out, because it flagged by our
producer Mac. Let's put this up here on the screen,
Nata Nanu's testimony. If you're all wondering in his criminal
trial was cut short today yesterday over quote security developments
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that happened.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
In amazing coincidence. It just keeps happening, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
So it's one of those where is it every single
time that he's going to have to testify that there
just happens to be some sort of pretexting gaza like
at the subject of these really political you know sphere
of what's happening, and then apparently America is just you
know fine with them violating the ceasefire and encroaching here
on the Yellow line. It just looks very grim and
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all the cynics you know, initially talking about the seasfire
seem pretty vindicated, I think.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Today, Yeah, I wish we would just give the guy asylum,
like political asylum, get a place in South Florida.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Like it is.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
It is not fair for one hundred plus Palestinians to
have to die so that he can delay.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
A criminal trials.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
That's no reason for anybody to lose a life, like
just just end this like it's yeah, but yes, this
has been. This is whenever he's gotten into political trouble
or criminal trouble over the last two years, you've seen
you strategy change and tactics change around around the attack
on Gaza, and we're still seeing that we do a
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brief update on what's going on.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Yes, you're going to have to fully brief all of us.
I know this has happened overnight here, but I do
think it's an important story.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yes, So Sudan, this killing.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Yeah, in the town of El Foscher was where the
kind of Syrian army capital has been in North Darfur.
And there's been this civil war going on since twenty
twenty three, and the UAE has come in heavily. United
Arab Emirates has come in heavily on the side of
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what's called the RSF Rapid Support Forces. And a year
ago the US State Department said to RSF is committing
ethnic cleansing in Darfur and in Sudan, and the support
of the UAE.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Has continued, continue to pay. So you can put up
put up a.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Eight here, and so l l Foger El Foger finally
yesterday and over the last couple of days, but it
has kind of now fully fallen to the RSF. And
what you're looking at here are a ton of people
rounded up by the RSF who as we understand it.
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And there is much more disturbing video that would confirm
this that we're not going to show you here.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Were then executed.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
And this is not the first time that the RSF
has taken over a city and estimates of civilian massacres
as a result have been over ten thousand, like in
a particular city like this, absolute horrific bloodbath if you
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can put up a nine. A lot of the OCID
people online are saying they have never seen.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Visible blood blood this from space. But what precipitated this?
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Well, so what precipitated this precisely is l Fosher has
been basically surrounded by the r s F for a
year and a half and it is a It's one
of the remaining key strongholds of their of the s
a F, their opposition and what and so what precipitated
the master was that there they finally managed to break
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through and take it. What precipitated it more broadly is
is gold. Basically, you know, Sudan has you know, significant
wealth underneath.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Its And why is the UAE supporting this malus So
the u A Well, the UAE.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Has this massive Africa play that's that has been doing
it had, the u A has. The u AU is
supporting African proxy forces all over the continent, like absolutely everywhere.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
And the u A, like like Cutter, is.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Technically a country, but it's you know, it's more like
an investment vehicle slash mafia, that is that is trying
to figure out how to take this wealth that has
come out of the ground, this fossil fuel wealth that
it's created in the last several decades, and only several decades,
like fifty years ago or so. This is a deeply
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poor area. Now it's like the richest place on Earth.
They know that that's not going to last forever. At
some point you tap the last bit of natural cost
and oil, and so they're their question is what next
for us? And what's next for them? Is that they
are They're they're building ports and and creating alliances all
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over over Africa for the continued extraction of natural resources
and funding all of these civil conflicts to make it
easier for them to then to then get access oftentimes
kind of arming, arming both sides.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Of the conflict.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
But in this case, they've really thrown their lot in
with RSF and we could put up a eleven real
quick to show that how how much this is escalating.
So this is the Foreign Foreign Relations chairman saying, quote
the horrors, the Republican the horrors and Darfur's l Fauscher
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were no accident.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
They were the rsf's plan all along. I think that's true.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
The RSF has waged terror and committed unspeakable atrocities, genocide
among them, against the Sudanese people. The r SF must
be called what it is, a foreign terrorist organization and
officially designated as one. America is not safe for secure
or more prosperous with the RSF slaughtering thousands, and so
you know, to hear to hear Jim rish Of talk
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like that make then makes you ask the question, Wait
a minute, hold on a second. So you're saying that
our ally, the UEE is major terrorist financer, because that
that's what you have to say, if like, if you
agree with that statement, which.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Can I can I put my cynic ad on here
a little bit? You know, whenever it's a conflict that
doesn't involve Israel, unspeakable atrocities in genocide amongst them. Right,
Darfur was the original one of the original you know,
quote unquote genocides of the twenty first century. In the
early two thousands, after Rwanda, it was supposed to be
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never again. It actually didn't really work. Why does America
suddenly care? They say America is not safe for secure
or more prosperous with rfs slaughtering thousands? Is there a
deeper thing going on here? Or is this just exposed
like the human rights industrial complex?
Speaker 1 (27:32):
So I wish ken Vogel was here because it'd bean.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
I'm curious, like who's doing like which different faction ken
Vogel being the Times reporter that we interviewed.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yes, you guys also interviewed who does all the foreign lobbying?
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Yeah, it's a good question, like what foreign lobbying is
going on that gets statements like this.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
On the other.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Hand, the level of atrocity is reaching like heights that
are difficult to ignore even for Americans when it comes
to Africa. You know, Americans are pretty good at ignoring it.
What's going on in Africa just across the board and
ignoring you know, things almost everywhere, including even people say, oh,
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what about the protests around Gaza, But you know, Gaza
like has significantly fallen off the last year or so.
You know, mainstream news also like it's just the US.
It's just not something that people are paying attention to.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
So, yeah, I don't know exactly what's.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Going on in Washington that is making that is now
putting this pressure on the UE's proxies in Sudan, but
I'm sure they're and I think like kill They also
posted they were a little bit more aggressive in what
they posted on social media this time than in the
last you know, mass masscer of ten to fifteen thousand
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people didn't they didn't elevate it in the same way.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Yeah, but if I were the Pseudanese, I'd be like,
you people are really gonna lecture me about you know,
about the massacres and you know, after what you've just
funded going on in Israel.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
They kind of have a point, right, And.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Same with the UAI, They're like, really, like, you're going
to talk to me about who I cant send money to,
whether it's in my strategic interest or I'll get out
of here.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
What did the RF surrounded in an area and wouldn't
let food exactly and then killing them? Yeah, I don't know,
it's dark. No, yes, opening opening that that and letting
that out into the world.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
I also think that explains to social media activity. They're like,
we can post whatever, right, we can do what we want.
We can do anything that we want.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Look, because they're seeing it on their phones out of
gods all day, and of course they're doing this exactly,
we're going to do this.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
It's very sad as I'm glad you are following it.
I honestly, I hate to say, I haven't really been
familiar follow It's a big world, little bit back twentye ago,
so exactly, you know, a lot, not a huge ton
of like US strategic interests or any of that in
the region, but so uly Washington is waking up. I will,
I'll be honest with you, even though I obviously see
what's happening here. Anytime I start to see the word
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genocide and all that's being turned just thrown around by
the State Department, I'm like, something's going on here, you know,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Know exactly what it is. I'm a little suspicious.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Suddenly Mark or Rubio cares about human rights and all
of that.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
I'm like, I don't know about.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
This, ye ran, yeah, and we could end this overnight tune.
You're like, look, you're getting sanctioned and you your whole
little somber wealth fund here.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Yeah, they will never do that, especially fun first offital
what we did, We're fine with it, Saudi's and Yemen.
This is just long standing US policy.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
I'm always just fascinated about what we get, what everyone
in Washington starts to care about. Yeah, And the reason
my spidy senses go up is I'm like, it's never
about the actual killings. There's usually something else going on,
and I'm.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Just you know, and the UAE ses this has a
sphere of influence for them too. They can have geopolitical advantages,
like they know the UA hates some US as well,
And there was this push a year ago, what if
we get everybody in Homsta just go to Sudan, so
and so. In order to do that, the RSF has
to like then take over all of Darfur, which they
basically now control. Like they're what and what what they
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are also finding it's the same thing that Israel's arguing
to the public, which is that you can actually just
do the ethnic cleansing, you can do the genus I
get away with it, and then people will forget about it.
It's more important to win, and then people will just
move on so oursef is right now and in brutal
fashion winning.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yes, well, look at Azerbaijan mean the same, same exact.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Thing, not that anybody apparently here cared. Let's get to
the storm, shall we thank you for that update.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Ryan.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Let's go ahead and put this up on the screen.
We have an update here from Ryan Hall, the weather
YouTuber extraordinary who does a fantastic job. We have been covering,
of course, and just you know, noting the category five
hurricane Melissa which made landfall yesterday with Jamaica some one
hundred eighty mile per hour winds.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Here's what you have to say.
Speaker 6 (32:02):
We've got a breaking update from the National Hurricane Center.
This is a special tropical cyclone update on Hurricane Melissa.
At one pm Eastern, Category five Hurricane Melissa made landfall
in the southwestern Jamaica area near New Hope. This is
now confirmed to be one of the most powerful, powerful
hurricane landfalls ever recorded in the entire Atlantic basin. The
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one hundred and eighty five mile per hour winds and
the central pressure of eight hundred and ninety two millibars,
those numbers are historic.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Historic numbers, he says, and we have some video guys,
that's going to put that up there on the screen.
Now that it has made landfall, you can just see
some of the images that came out of Jamaica and
some of the damage. Already we're still in the initial
phases of learning exactly what happened. They say that Cuba
actually evacuated some seven hundred and fifty thousand people ahead
of the storm. Where you can see, you know, the
(32:53):
infrastructure and some of the images that were coming out
of Jamaica, and also you know, noting just generally like
the overall I mentioned, Oh my god, I mean, that's
just so terrifying right in the middle of the Caribbean.
Category five one of the most powerful storms literally ever recorded.
So it's pretty scary that this is happening. Not to
mention as I said that at the very same time
(33:15):
that you can see you look at that difference in
the image here.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
It's just totally nuts.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
And what I think Ryan and others were noting was
the level of the intensity in the storm. So obviously
some big, you know, domestic questions here. First of all,
you know, this is just the beginning of hurricane season.
We are in the middle of a government shutdown, are
the Weather Service in the National Oceanic Administration and others
who track some of these hurricanes.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Are they going to be fully up to staff.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
But you know, one of the domestic angles that I
just think nobody's really paying attention to are all of
these thousands of service members who are in the middle
of the Caribbean. Put this up here, police on the screen.
You know, it says, Hurricane Melissa collides with the US
military mission in the Caribbean. Military campaign against the drug cartels.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Legend so called.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Drug cartels in Latin America could soon reckon with the
natural disaster a humanitarian crises in the region. Eight warships
collectively carrying six thousand troops several dozen aircraft are assembled
in the region for the Trump administration's military strikes, but
many of the personnel are also trained, apparently to respond
to natural disasters, serving on ships with a long track
(34:21):
record of doing so in the southcom area. The Hurricane
Melissa obviously is going to cause a tremendous amount of
damage in the region. Kind Of one of the long
standing things that the US would always do is when
there's a hurricane in Haiti or somewhere, they'll show up
with the big show force drop off a bunch of eighties.
So it's a genuine question here as to whether they're
going to do anything or whether they're just going to
(34:42):
stay parked there to try and blow up as you know, fishermen,
drugs boats as possible. That's one, But second is just
it highlights that despite this, the fact that it is
a hurricane season, these thousands of service members are in
these waters, and the US S gerald Ford, one of
the large aircraft carriers in the world, is headed there
right now as we speak, and all of them are
(35:04):
just going to be sitting in these hurricane prone you
know situation. It's dangerous number one, you know, no matter what.
And then of course it gets to the for what question,
which of course we've covered here excessively.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Yeah, and so the Navy says they're monitoring the storm,
of course, and and we'll you know, are working to
keep make sure that they're not directly impacted by it.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
But yeah, that wouldn't that be great if if the
US military.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Actually, like when when the storm passes, they they're like,
you know what, instead of doing regime change in Venezuela,
we are We're going to go to Jamaica. Yeah, we're
going to disembark and we're gonna we're gonna help everybody
clean up here. We're we're going to really throw our
back into this because we're all one people here, we're
all one hemisphere, we're all we're all together.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Trump could even go over and you know, throw the
paper towels at people.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
He loves doing that.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
I don't expect that's going to happen, but I guess
anything's possible. Meanwhile, the you know, the strikes continue, it's
it does seem like they've moved more to the Pacific side.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Yes, lately they have.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Lately, they've moved the striking boats on the Pacific side.
And as we've said before, like whether the boats have
drugs on them or not, like most likely the people
on the boats are actually fishermen, like fishermen who are
who are either paid an enormous fortune to make one
(36:24):
run or told you're doing this run for us, or
we're going to kill your sister, like or a combination.
Don't do this run and we'll kill your sister. Do
the run, and we're going to give you twenty thousand dollars,
which is more than you make in like five years.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Yeah, this latest one, we're not exactly sure even where
it took place. They said it was an international water
somewhere in the Pacific Ocean near the coast of Mexico.
And apparently, even though fourteen people were killed in the attacks,
they said that there was one person who survived the strikes.
According to Mexican search and rescue authorities quote accepted the
(37:03):
case and assumed responsibility for coordinating the rescue. The condition
of the survivor is remains unclear. Mexico's navy said that
it had dispatched a patrol voat and aircraft to safeguard
human life at c The Mexican President, Claudia Scheinbaum at
this morning said quote, we do not agree with these attacks.
Said she had asked the country's foreign minister as well
(37:23):
as representatives to meet the US ambassador and says, quote
all international treaties need to be respected. So that some
fifty seven people now who have been killed in the strikes,
the overall picture of the strikes is it just makes
no sense, you know, in a lot of different ways,
because all of this presumes a naval campaign or a
campaign at sea for drugs.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
I mean literally.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Yesterday Ryan, after being sent this report. The twenty twenty
five National Drug Enforcement DEA Estimate mentions Venezuela exactly seven times.
Of those seven they all talk about trend A Arragua.
They only mention street level drug trafficking, street level small
(38:08):
level drug trafficking. It has no mention of fentanyl. I
read extensively through the fentanyl section that was provided to
me of this twenty twenty five. I think the entire
fentanyl section is focused on Mexico and land routes to
the United States via the border. These boat is trifling,
it's not. It's literally if anything, Actually, listen, I don't
(38:31):
want to sound like I'm defending cocaine or anything, but
if you're going to use the fentanyl pretext, if the
boat's coming from Colombia, that's actually a good tell that
it doesn't have fentanyl, right because that means is straight
up Colombian.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
You know, a pure cocaine. That's the pure stuff. That's
probably what these people are are paying for. Right.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
So again, you know, I don't support cocaine. I would
like for it to be burned.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Out one sea. If the boat comes to Mexico, then
it right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Right, so if the if the boat goes to Mexico,
it's actually different story. And from what I read again,
this is our own government. This is by the way,
Donald Trump's DEA put out this report just a few
short months ago, and I'm reading through the fentanyl section
last night. They have the whole thing mapped out, even
to the interstates of where all of the fentanyl is
coming from, including the Chinese precursors that are making their
(39:21):
way to Mexico.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
All of this.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
Actually just spoke yesterday with a very knowledgeable source about
what was happening inside of Mexico. Apparently Shinbaum and others
have pretty significantly cut down the amount of fentanyl coming
across the board.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
There's two reasons.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Number one is the border is much more close, so
there's many migrants coming across. Makes sense, of course the
drug traffickers can't take advantage of that. But two is,
actually there's been a Mexican deployment to the US Mexico border,
which is not entirely shutting down, I mean not feasible
to say zero amount of fenchanyl, but a much smaller
amount of fenanyl is currently making its way to the US.
(39:55):
So most of these are just show of four strikes
for a purpose which remains, you know, entirely mysterious unless
you start to look at regime change in Venezuela, even
though these are happening in the Pacific Ocean, not that
you know, anybody apparently even keeps track anymore. Also, if
this guy survived, so then why why wouldn't you go
get him, you know, why wouldn't you go send him.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
To court some cartl leader over here. Yeah, of course,
you remember that case of piracy.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
I was thinking about that recently, that movie, you know,
Captain Phillips, the USS mersk Alabama, and they captured that
I forget exactly his Somali name, but they captured the
pirate or FBI arrested him. He was repatriated to the
United States by the FBI. He was actually arrested by
FBI agents, I'm pretty sure, or he was transferred the
(40:43):
FBI custody. He was put on trial actually here in
you I think he's in the US Federal penitentiary right
now on the charge of piracy. So if you do
survive the attack, presumably you would want to take that
person prosecute and put him at trial. Instead, they're like,
now he can go back to Mexico. So then why
did you kill him?
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Right? It makes no sense.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
So yeah, and I was talking to somebody who did
just recently left the coast Guard doing drug interdictions in
the Caribbean.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
And he was saying that you generally can you generally.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
Can tell a fishing boat, you know, not a boat
that's carrying drugs from a boat that is just generally
used for fishing. Fishing boats have kind of more people
on them. Drug boats, they've got the extra motors. You
can kind of see, he's like, but oftentimes it looks
like they're they're gauging just by kind of trajectory of
(41:35):
the boat. And he said they would do that as well,
like you'd look at the trajectory of where the boat's
going and that would be your first clue.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
And he'd say somewhere.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
They'd be right about half to three quarters of the
time on those because what they do is they go
up to the boat and we're like, hey, this Coastguard stop.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
You know, we're going to board you and search you.
Speaker 4 (41:55):
And then they'd search and me like, oh, okay, we're wrong, sorry,
go on about your business.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Interesting, But if you're.
Speaker 4 (42:02):
Just bombing them from the are Yeah, you're going to
be right half to three quarters of the time that
you're going to be wrong a quarter or two a.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Half of the time.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
This is all in international watt. Nobody even knows where
this is. Nobody knows where it took place. They say
it's off the coast of Mexico where you know, to
what except literally no coordinates, nothing like just a picture
that's released by Secretary Hegseth from the Department, you know,
from the DD and you're just like, okay, you know
that's the only information, and that's just to show everybody
the bias to implicit you know, why is the Washington
(42:32):
Post saying against drug cartels? It's not even true, Like
there's no evidence that that's true. Right, It's crazy, Like
they just take this stuff and they run with this,
even with Venezuela, like nobody interrogates the central premise at
the heart of this entire thing. And it's ramping up.
This is all you know.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
It's slowly, slowly, slowly happening.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
And I think actually this week will be a big
jump point for Venezuela, not just because of the hurricane.
Because the hurricane, like I said, the military is actually
going to have to make a choice. Do we leave
here and kind of abandon the pressure campaign on Maduro
or do we try and go do some humanitarian assistance.
Who knows right, but that you know, the resources are finite.
That's why all of this does connect together.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
Yeah, and it shows how quickly the conscience of a
country can be corrupted. Because when you're watching like do
Terte and the Philippines, where he's just going around just
executing drug dealers in the streets, like you can you
can imagine how in the Philippines the debate would have
turned to, well, was that a fruit.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Seller or was that a drug dealer?
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Rather than we don't we're sure that did happen those
time if I remember.
Speaker 4 (43:39):
Right, Yeah, Yeah, that's what the debate would shift to,
rather than we don't want death squads just extra judicially
killing anybody like we have. We've tried to develop a
civilized society. Let's try to keep that. And so you
can see it in our own national conversation, this is
(43:59):
a drug or is it not a drug boat? Rather
than let's just not have death squads from the air
burning people alive.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
Who knows, who knows where things are going to go
in all this, but everybody keep an eye on the hurricane. Obviously,
first of all, just with the people of Jamaica's horrific
who have to deal with that. And then we have
our own troops who are in the waters. They themselves,
the United States military, are going to have to make
a choice, all while this escalating air campaign against Venezuela continues. Hopefully,
Ryan and I'll have some more reporting on that later
(44:29):
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