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So the Financial Times is writing that the US is
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Let's go and put this up here on the screen.
I thought this was a fantastic piece. Came out in
the Financial Times, Rashir CHARMEAI somebody I really respect, And
what he wrote about here is quote America is now
one big bet on AI. It is seen as the
magic fix for every threat to the US economy. And
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I'm going to read what I think are the most
troubling paragraphs.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Quote.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Lately, optimism has become a self fulfilling prophecy. The hundreds
of billions of dollars investing in AI now account for
an astonishing forty percent of US GDP growth this year.
Some analysts believe that estimate does not even fully capture
AI spend. Real share could be higher. AI companies have
accounted for eighty percent of gains in US stock so
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far in twenty twenty five. That is helping to fund
and drive US growth as the AI driven stock market
draws in money from all over the world and feeds
a boom in consumer spending by the rich. Since the
wealthiest ten percent of the population owns eighty five percent
of stocks, they enjoy the largest wealth effect when they
go up. Little wonder then, latest data shows American consumer
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economy rests largely on spending by the wealthy. The top
ten percent of earners account for half of consumer spending,
the highest share on record since that data began.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Without all the.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Excitement around AI, the US economy would be stalling out
given the multiple threats. I thought that that was such
an important, just like succinct way of putting it together.
He says, America has become one big bet on AI.
Outside of the AI plays, even European stock markets have
been outperforming the US this decade, and now that gap
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is starting to spread. So far in twenty twenty five,
every major sector from utilities, industrials, healthcare, and banks has
fared better in the rest of the world than in
the US. So Silicon Valley parlance is like in the
world of bits versus the world of atoms, as in
something in cyberspace versus the real world. AI is honestly
a bit of both, right, because you have to make chips,
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you have to brid data centers. But fundamentally the profit
and everything else is a power law of exponential growth
for stocks.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Of a lot of the people who are involved.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
We all know it is not in any way distributed
across the economy, and I thought that that's up in
a way that should honestly be terrifying, because something A
friend of mine recently said to me was, if Trump
did not have this AI boom, the tariff story would
be a totally different conversation. I mean, it's still bubbling underneath, right.
We talked about the farmer yesterday, soybeans. If you work
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in the quote normal economy and all that, of course
you're gonna feel it. I was just taking a look
yesterday at the equal weight S and P five hundred
versus the weighted S and P five hundred.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
It's unweighted. It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
If you just take like the equal weight versus you know,
the Nvidia heavy S and P and all these others,
the gap and growth is unbelievable. And I think what
it underscores is the fundamental danger of where we are
in a variety of ways, from economic policy because it's emboldening.
Actually Trump on tariffs because he thinks this is tariffs.
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He doesn't understand it's all like data center growth, AI growth,
Google and everybody kind of spending to the bottom.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
But the second is, and look, I.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Know, you know, bubble talk is always easy, and you
can nobody knows when.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
To call it.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
But at the very at the very least, even if
it's not a bubble or any of that. This is
a huge risk, like any portfolio. If the US GDP
is a portfolio, to say that forty percent of your
growth comes from a single sector, from not even just technology,
from a single sector of that sector, you should be
very afraid. And when eighty percent of the gains which
all of us rely on, it'll say, if you're in retirement,
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you're four oh one k. That number's got to go up.
And it's only going up from one place, which means
it can go down from one place to a single
you know, we talked about deepseek style yesterday, dot com
anything like that two thousand and seven. I mean we
all remember, right, it can go south very quickly, and
then it can go south for a long time.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And I can.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Guarantee you while the gains may only go to the
top ten percent, that the losses will go to one
hundred works.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
That's the way it is.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
The way that works well. And it feels like we're
sort of like damned if it works out well, and
damned if it doesn't work out So obviously if it
ends up just to be like sort of worthless aislop
and the you know, all the grand vision of what
AI could be doesn't come to fruition, then you're going
to have this massive crash our economy. Like the perception
of our economy is so tied up with these dramatic
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stock market gains, you know, divorced from the reality of
the real economy that impacts most people day to day,
that that collapse would be absolutely devastating and, like you said,
would have massive effects for everybody, whether you're heavily invested
in the stock market or not. If the promise of
AI does come to fruition, uh, well, then you've got
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mass job loss and a need to completely rewrite the
social contract. So that seems like you know, do you
guys feel like the country is in a place where
we could all get together and have a unifying discussion
about what a new social contract might look like, because
I shouldn't feel like we're living in that country. So
that's why the landscape is so incredibly terrifying. And you know,
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I just I feel like there is such this has
been so invisibilized. It's something that's ubling below the surface,
but there is so little attention being paid by the
media to this incredibly massive, looming potential problem. And our
economy when they say that it's just one big bet
on AI, Like policymakers are just sort of like using
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AI as a bucket catch all for any sort of
problem that they see in the economy. So if they're
worried about the debt and the depth of oh, you know,
once we get AI, like that's going to reduce costs,
we're going to be able to figure it out. Or
if they're worried about sticky inflation, so well, AI is
going to increase productivity, so we don't have to worry
about that. Every problem. We're falling behind in terms of
like research and development, we're not what we used to
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be in terms of being the technological juggernaut' AI. I'll
fix that as well. Like, it's this incredible wish casting
placed on this technology which is unproven at this point
at best, and which has not demonstrated, you know, the
basic ability even to be profitable at any of these companies.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
What also scares me is if I take a look
at that piece and I say that every sector from
utility to industrial, healthcareacter banks is faring in the rest
of the world in the US, what happens if we
get into a serious war.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Look at Russia. You think they have AI in Russia.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Oh yeah, you know what, they have defense, industrial base,
a shitload of oil. That's what matters. That's the actual
thing that matters. That's how you have GDP growth even
when the entire world is going to cut you off.
I mean, yes, China has an AI sector. They still
have an unbelievable industrial sector, so many different potentials that
are coming out in the world in the real world.
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That's actually manufacturing, building products on top of financialization, which
if you read about how they conceive of the economy,
they think that compounding stock growth is bad for the
elite and divorces you from the real world. This is
a direct line from Shishngping. He said, Hey, stocks, they
don't need to grow that much. We're not into that.
We're into the world of the real that's what we
focus on and that's how we got here. This is
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this is very very scary stuff. Also, we talked yes
a few days ago, that was with Ryan Derek Thompson
shout Out, did a fantastic interview, and what he said
actually is that because the only growth right now in
the US economy is coming from AI, it means that
all private investment is flowing in that direction, which is
directly then at the it's zero sum game, right, there's
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only a certain amount of money. Well, that amount of
money isn't going to go where to the AI where
the most compounding effect. So that means that let's say
you're a private equity giant or something on VC anything,
what you're going to invest in is where you're going
to get the most return on your capital. Of course
that's your job. Well that also means though that some
guy who's running a construction firm, let's say he's built
it to one hundred million dollar company, he wants to
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take it to a two billion dollar company. Nobody's investing
in that because the margins are not going to be
the same as some data center stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I was reading this morning. Let's go ahead and put
a three please up on the screen. This open AIAMD deal.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
So I was reading about this all right, So what
happens is is open Ai and AMD have now quote
announced a massive computing deal new phase of the AI boom.
The five year agreement will challenge Nvidia's market dominance and
gives open Ai ten percent of AMD if it hits
milestones for chip deployment. So the way that this is
structured though, is so crazy. So basically what happened is
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AMD was like, hey you open. AI was like, we
want x amount of chips. AMD goes, cool, give us
seventy eight billion dollars and they say, well, how would
you like to pay. I'm reading this from Matt Levine.
He kind of writes up a script. Well, we were
thinking we would announce a deal and that will just
add seventy eight billion to the value of your company.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
That should cover it. And am D is like, oh,
you know.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
They go you still have to pay, and they go
why And they go, okay, why don't we pay you
cash for the value of the chips, and then you
have to give us that back in stock, and then
when we announced the deal, the stock will go up
and we'll get our seventy eight billion back.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
AMD goes yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Sure, let's do that, and so basically what happened is
they gave them stock worth thirty five billion dollars. They
took some cash, but then the value of the stock
increased so much it basically covered the cost of the
cash that was put in. So it's a complete circular game.
And they just did this with Nvidia. I watched the
same thing happen where and video is.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Like, where's been one hundred and fifty billion?
Speaker 3 (12:06):
And then this value of the stock goes more than
one hundred and fifty billion? Where is the reality? Where's
the cat? Does this have anything to do with cash flow? No,
it's just literally all expectations. And that's what's really scary
about it. So put a two up on the screen
just to underscore what you were talking about. There's a
new Senate Democratic report they said AI could erase some quote,
one hundred million US jobs, eighty nine percent of fast food,
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sixty four percent of accounting, forty seven percent of trucking
all over the next ten years. Keep in mind, trucking
in particular is what worries me because it's like one
of the best ways for people who don't have anything
more than a high school diploma to actually make some
six figure income. And it's one of those where look,
you know, I'm not a ludd ite. I'm not saying
that all automation or anything is bad, but you obviously
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need to think about the disruptive effect of your economy.
The promise is always, oh, well, that'll create so much
wealth that it'll they'll figure out something else. Oh, we
used to have you know, people before the alarm clock.
People would come and throw something at your windows.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
You guys think I'm joking.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
These are the actual things the libertarians say, and they're
not like wrong in a sense, but I'm like, yeah,
I don't know, it seems a little different, you know,
it just seems a little bit different. And they're like, well,
we used to have horse keepers when we all went
around in ponies, but then the car opened up America.
I'm like, just doesn't seem it doesn't seem the same.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
That's just me.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
That's me.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
You can you can decide whether you it is one
to one.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Just to hold on that, because this is an argument
that people genuinely make, and it's you know, it's a
reasonable one. You look at like the past and you're like, oh,
there were all these concerns about the industrial revolution and
all these concerns about you know, about the car, the
automobile and all this you know, technological displacement in the past,
and it ended up that there was a period of
transition and then there were new jobs that were opened
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up and it was all okay, So it's gonna we're
gonna project from the past to the future and say
it's all gonna be okay. One of the things that
is different is like if we just use the example
of the automobile, well, the automobile was replacing horses. AI
is to replace humans. That's what's different. Like, this is
not a technology to supplement human labor, buy and large.
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This if you listen to what the creators themselves say,
this is a tech that is meant to replace you
just go out and look at I mean, just as
one like you know, example here apocryphal example, potentially this
AI actress who you know, they design this like teen
girl AI actress that apparently has agents lining up to
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you know, to work with her in major studios or
interested in or whatever. Like for capitalists, if you don't
have someone who's going to complain and has to go
to the bathroom and is going to get sick and
going to have kids and have to deal with their
kids and going to unionize or whatever, like not having
to deal with that, they're like, yes, great, like that
is their goal. And that's what makes the potential job
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displacement here, I think so much different than what we've
seen in the past, and why you should take very
seriously these sorts of numbers about the number of jobs
that AI could displace. And again, so you know, that's
if things go quote unquote well and AI lives up
to its promise. If it doesn't live up to its promise,
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then we have this gigantic bubble and all of these
billions probably trillions of dollars that have been speculated on
AI that is going to you know, lead to some
sort of a collapse. So it's such an incredibly perilous situation, right,
and that's before we even get to like, you know,
the immediate resource taxation of AI development. There's this article
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in the Wall Street Journal about Elon Musk's development outside
of Memphis. We can put a three up on the
screen here, and you know this. Of course, they locate
this gigantic data center. I think this is the one
that calls like the Colossal Yeah, the Colossus two data center,
of course, is located very close to these poor black
communities in Memphis. The residents there have complained about the noise.
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They've complained they feel that there are toxins that in
the air since this thing started to go up, and
you have reports across the country. This is actually something
I'm worried about of wells going dry because the AI
centers use so much water. Of course, we've been really
trying to focus here on the way that electricity prices
are already going up. In our home state of Virginia,
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forty percent of energy generation already going to AI data centers.
In North Carolina, they're passing they pass legislation to pass
some of the costs from AI data center electricity onto consumers,
so that you are bearing the cost for this, even
though you may not want it whatsoever. So you know,
the resource drain here entailed in these things is just
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like you can't even wrap your head around it. The
amount of electricity that these things require is equivalent to
like large cities. It's absolutely insane.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Let me just underscore that.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah, labor crews hired by must XAI were excavating power
equipment on site preparing to build a new plant of
generating over a gigawatt of electricity, which was enough to
power eight hundred thousand homes. But that just shows you
that you're going to need enough power for eight hundred
thousands in the city of Memphis. Yeah, and that's how
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much that they're already planning before they even have to
draw from the grid. I actually think that types of
investment like this need to be a municipal demand. So
this is where I've gotten a lot of pushback from
a lot of these AI people who are like, you
shouldn't be advocating for censorship on the grid, you should
be advocating for more power. I'm like, where have you been, bro,
(17:35):
I'm the biggest nuclear guy that there is.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Shut you know, shut up.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
But if that's the case, then you people, if you're
going to make all this money, then you need to
invest massively in it should be a municipal demand. If
you come in, Poe's your power projection, You're building a
power plan that is going to at the very least
take care of some seventy five to eighty percent of
that And so there's going to be some sort of
tax levied to make sure that all of this extra
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electricity that you're demanding is going into let's say, nuclear
energy project whatever, more oil and gas. I don't care
where it comes from. It just needs to make sure
that it's not being offset on the consumer. Because the
alternative is that right now they're you know, pretending to
invest in some of this power generation. But as we
all know, guys, power projects take years to come online.
It takes them six seven years to make a new
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nuclear reactor site. That's even if you get the permits,
which none of them have ever materialized. More recently, so
in the interim, what's going to happen? I have read
that in some municipalities there is an increased data center
specific two hundred and sixty seven percent electricity bill to people,
to consumers two one hundred and sixty seven percent. If
you're on a fixed income or if you are a
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suburban household, that is devastating to your monthly nut.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I mean, just think about that.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
It's like gas price, for example, if there was a
two hundred and sixty seven percent increase.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
There, you have to pay it.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
I mean, you know, you can only cut so much
whenever it comes to you know, turning the lights off
or any of that. That's not going to do very
much when you have such a massive increase. That is
what worries me the most. And actually the politically things
are going in the opposite direction, where in fact, the
state legislators are all getting paid off by Amazon and
Google and all these other people and video and they're like, Oh,
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it's going to create you know, ten thousand new jobs.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
I'm like, yeah, construction jobs in the interim. Great.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I don't bemoan that. I think it's fine. But how
is that going to roll into the rest of the economy.
What are those types of jobs? Are they actually gonna
be distributed? Because it seems to me that the absolute
vast majority of the profit keeps rolling up to the Oracles,
to the Larry Allisons, to the Elon Musk, to Amazon
and to all these other folks, and we don't see
how any of this is actually materializing yet in the
real world. Let's put a four up on the screen
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if you want to know where money sees opportunity. What
was I talking about earlier? Blackrock is on the verge
of buying quote aligned data centers, a massive data center
construction company, a deal valued at some forty billion dollars.
That is the value prop that they see in just
data center construction. Blackrock owns it. That means the money
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is not going to you, it's going to private investors.
Let's go to the next part here, and this is
about the Minnesota public Utilities Commission that has voted to
let Blackrock buy a company that actually runs Minnesota Power.
More Perfect Union did a segment on it. Let's take
a listen.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
Blackrock bok Global Infrastructure Partners, which is a big investment
fund that itself buys up things like water and waste systems,
transportation companies, and even large shares of entire airports. If
you've flown in or out of London, congratulations, you're probably
a customer of GIP. So Blackrock owns Global Infrastructure Partners,
which is trying to buy Elite, which owns Minnesota Power,
which owns infrastructure like power plants, dams, and the land
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they're on. Usually when private equity and asset managers buy stuff,
they just do it behind closed doors. But because people
would literally die without power, it's considered a critical service
and therefore a regulated monopoly under Minnesota.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
Law, Blackrock doesn't necessarily have the same amount of reporting
responsibilities as a publicly traded corporation. We've had a lack
of transparency already regarding our rates and the quality of
services in our community in superior. That ability to access
that data would be decreased by the purchase, which would
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be a huge problem.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
The community has made it clear that they opposed the deal,
and a judge has already recommended against it. But it
doesn't end there. The final approval is going to come
from the Public Utility Commission, a board made up of
just five people appointed by the governor. This could have
huge implications for anyone who uses basic utilities like electricity
or water, i e. The things that keep us from
freezing to death in the woods, because if they realize
it's profitable, nothing will stop them. And this kind of
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thing has happened before in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan
with a power company called UPco. This is Alyssa jen Schaeffer,
the director of Climate and Energy at the Private Equity
Stakeholder Project.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
If we look at northern Michigan, there's a utility called
the Upper Peninsula Power Company or UPco. This was acquired
by a private equity firm in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
UPCOLL customers have seen a spike in their rates. Many
say they can had a.
Speaker 7 (22:00):
Ford after the private equity firm took it over. Shortly thereafter,
they raised the bills. A couple of years later, bills
went up again. Then that private equity firm sold it
to a different private equity firm. Once the new private
equity owners were in control, they raised bills again. Since
twenty fourteen, a PO being owned by private equity has
seen for bill.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Hikes And where do you think that that's going and
who's benefit?
Speaker 3 (22:24):
You can see exactly how it's all happening, and I
mean the fakery of it as I described in that
open AI AMD deal. It just seems very key, and
I just think we all have to just grapple with
again for what to what benefit. I hear all the
time about productivity gains in the white collar workplace. Great,
I'm against meetings, I'm against bulletins and alicis list nobody
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more than me. I don't know how the slackers out
there are all doing it. And I don't mean that
you are a slacker. I was saying physically all well
honestly on black channels for people who can bug you
at any hour of the day. You also see the
consumer side effect of this, where it's unscrupulous and it's crazy.
(23:05):
So friend of the show Seth Harp put this up
here on the screen craziness. So he shows that people
on Amazon have aied his book and are selling it
there I guess, either pulling it the text from Google
Books or something like that, and they're able to set
up some sort of drop chip where you have an
AI knockoff of the book versus the genuine piece. As
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he says here, quote we need to rise up and
stop the tech industry by force. Our livelihoods, our culture,
and our ecological environment are worth fighting for.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
I am deadly serious. I like his energy.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
But what he points out is that his book actually
explicitly states that he has a copyright proviso. It cannot,
according to his copyright, be fed into AI systems. But
instead what's happened is somehow somebody's been able to do that,
and they've been able to explode everywhere online. And what
I think also is very crazy is that this is
just one of the more high profile examples. Because the
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Fort Brackcarte was such a popular book, I saw other
authors show that their books also had quote AI competitors
when you search for it. You also had this instance
where immediately after the whole Charlie Kirk thing happened, that
there were these weird uh there were these weird books
that started going everywhere, like in terms of in terms
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of biographies of Charlie.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
So we even some that were like, you know, everything
we know about Charlie Kirk's assassination. That popped up, like
you know, immediately because some AI entrepreneur quote unquote fraudster
really saw the opportunities, saw that there was a lot
of public interest and just said to you know, chat
Chipeti or whatever, write me a book about what we
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know on Charlie Kirk's murder. Spun that thing up immediately,
and instantly it's up on Amazon exactly.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
It's insane, can we it is a eight please just
to show everybody so you can see these AI slot
books about Charlie Kirk's assassination, ignited conspiracy theories online like
you just said about psyops. I mean, look, this is
my biggest concern, and in fact, what we have talked
about with Sora, the amount of AI videos that are
(25:10):
now just explicitly going viral about you know, there's the
famous ones that are boomers, but I saw a few yesterday.
People send them to me now because they know that
I'm interested. And it's like a woman trying to save
her son from a crocodile getting eaten. It's uncanny valley
where I can tell but I mean, if no offense
to our older audience, but if you're like fifty or sixty,
(25:31):
I could see how you fall. They have ten tens
of thousands of views, like they're going everywhere, and the
reason why they churn this stuff out is because they
can turn an unbelievable amount of slop if even a
couple go viral, Let's say, it can cover the cost
of what the generation is, and then you do that
at scale forever. It's a classic content business where they
only need a few of these things, you know, to
actually to go viral.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I've seen apparently this is like all I'm not really
on Facebook, but apparently this is like most of what
Facebook is at this point because that's where the boomers congregate.
That's right, would be vulnerable to it. And it's just
like AI slot generated by fake AI accounts serve to
other fake fake AI accounts that you know, than some
percentage of boomers are also taken in by I myself
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enjoy a good cat video. I was watching some cat
videos just talks yesterday and I realized I was like,
I don't know if this is real or not. I mean,
it's pretty low stakes when you're talking about a cat video.
But when you're talking about, you know, something serious which
any of us could imagine, you know, a political figure
or whatever, then it's a it's a different deal. It's
very destabilizing for our shared understanding of reality. And it's
(26:38):
already good enough that we're at that point, even though
you know, a trained eye can tell most of the
real from.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
The fake exactly, and let's continue here.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
A eight C.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Please. This was from Robin William's daughter.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
I thought it was actually such a nice message where
she sais, quote please stop sending the AI videos of Dad,
if you have any decency, stop doing this to him
and to me, to everyone, even full stop.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
It's dumb. It's a waste of time and energy. Believe me,
it is not what he would want to watch.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
The legacies of real people be contense down to this
vaguely looks and sounds like him.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
So that so that's enough.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Just so other people can turn out horrible TikTok's slop
puppeteering them is maddening.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
You are not making art.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
You are making disgusting overprocessed hot dogs out of the
lives of human beings, out of the history of art
and music and then shoving them down someone else's throat
hoping they will give you a little thumbs up and
like it's gross, and for the love of everything, stop
calling quote it the future. AI is just badly recycling
and regurgitating the past to be reconsumed. You are taking
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in the human centipede of content and from the very
very end of the line, all while the folks at
the front laugh and laugh, consume and consume. So that
is from Robin Williams's daughter Zelda. I really appreciate that
from her. And at the same time we talked about
China earlier. We weren't able to cover this bridge. But
there's this new video going out and going massively viral
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for the right reasons.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
It's not Ai.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
China has now officially opened the world's tallest bridge. They
did it in less than four years. The bridge has
a restaurant at the top, twenty six hundred feet above
the river. The bridge cuts a two hour drive to
two minutes, features a theme park with a glass skywalk,
a high speed glass elevator, and a waterfall off of
the top of the bridge. Visitors can bungee jump off
of it. The Grand Canyon Bridge is twenty fifty feet
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above the river and spans forty six hundred feet across
quote insane, and you can see.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Here that is waterfall features.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
It must be nice to live in a real country.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
You know, last time that we were doing stuff like
this was when Hoover Dam that was over almost one
hundred years ago.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Waf you're at Hoover Dam was pretty awesome.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
People were making the comparison to the bridge that was
knocked down by the ship in Baltimore. All right, and
how long it will take for them? I mean, I
think they have started construction, which is actually pretty good
for America's standard, but it's going to be years and
years before that thing is complete. And that's just you know,
a basic as but I mean, look, it's an extraordinary
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modern marvel, etc. But it's also like nothing special in
the grand scheme of bridges, and that will take much
longer than the four years apparently that they were able
to construct this in and that's not all some incredible
scientific breakthroughs coming out of China that we would be
remiss if we didn't mention. Let's put a eleven up
on the screen. So they apparently have been able to
(29:29):
innovate in terms of potential anti aging. Chinese scientists achieve
a breakthrough and reverse aging in primates. They've demonstrated that
genetically engineered human stem cells can reverse key signs of
aging and monkeys and these were, you know, monkeys, very
similar to humans. Marketing major step toward potential therapies for
age related to client in humans. This is one development
(29:49):
that our friend Arnobertrand looked into and said, yeah, looks
pretty legit and pretty potentially transformational. They also recently developed
this bone glue. This is a ten that we can
put up on the screen that you know, instead of
if you have these micro fractures and complex procedures that
you'd have to do, requiring like screws and metal plates
(30:10):
and all the rest, they've developed this bone glue that
repairs bone fractures they say, in just three minutes. Another
one that Arnot Bertrand looked into and said, man, looks
pretty legit. So so that's what they're that's what they're
up to now. They are also in on the AI race. Yeah,
so you know Deep Seak, Yeah, Deep Seek, among other
They're also not the only Chinese competitor in the AI
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development race, but it's not apparently what their entire economy
is based on, as is ours.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
The point is is that they can have all of
the above because they have the real stuff. They have
actual you know, functioning government, They have a plan. It
comes with a lot of trade offs. Okay, you know,
always be remiss if we didn't say there are a
lot of trade offs.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
But I have to be honest.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
It is looking, you know, it is challenging the Western
conception of itself on a daily basis. They are like
the Japanese of the nineteen hundreds, which could prove that
you could leap a single generation and you could catch
up to the West, and in many cases you can
actually do it a lot better than them. But with
the system which is completely foreign, completely in some ways
(31:12):
either antithetical or different to whatever is actually happening, you know,
with the so called like amazing creative destruction, and instead
it's entirely state powered, it's state sponsored, and it's just
a sheer force of will it. Also, what we have
to note is it explains that weird hot mic moment
between Putin and Chishingping talking about organ transplants and immortality.
(31:36):
So maybe she was in on this anti aging secret.
Let's relive that for people who haven't seen it.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
In the past, people rarely lived longer than seventy years,
but today they say that at seventy you're still a child.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Human organs can be continuously transplanted.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
The longer you live, the younger you become, and can
even achieve immortality.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
The two of them talking about immortality. Maybe she was
in on this, but you know, people saw. I mean
even I said, I was like, oh, it's kind of
like a god complex. I'm like, maybe it's just reality.
Maybe that's what the world's super rich, and especially the
leader of one of the most developing countries in the
world can look at and can say, no, this is
actually going to happen in my lifetime. But I think
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you just put it together and you put there, you
put their production, their economic structure, their values, and then
you look at ours and you're like, come on, what
are we doing here? I mean, they would never allow
themselves to be in a situation where some eighty percent
of their entire growth is attributed in their stock market
to a single sector of the economy. Same with their
(32:40):
GDP growth. Now look again, I've said they had a
lot of problems. In fact, that book I just read
by Dan Wang, these bridges. They're obsessed with these bridges.
It's like everything is about infrastructure. It's almost new deal
asking civilian conservation, like just go and build rest stops.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Who cares if anybody uses them? But I mean there's
something there.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
The point actually, I think for them is to project
the legitimate legitimacy of the state outside of Beijing, Shanghai,
Guang like the big cities. They have to go out
into the rural areas and be like I tangibly and
making your life better. You used to literally have to
go two hours on some mountain path. I just built
you a big ass bridge. People are going to come
from all over China to come in to see it,
and it's awesome. And they do that with train stations,
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rural train stations everywhere all across, even if people don't
use them, just to show people the governments here we're
here to help. We've made your life better you were
living in the twenty first century, even if you used
to live in a backwater, what we would have considered it.
I mean, there's something there right in terms of legitimacy
and projection sure, it's not purely capitalist or makes sense
from an efficiency point of view, but it does from
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a more grand strategic way of trying to disperse like
big growth and big projects all over the country. In
some ways, that's what makes to be more of a
unified country. And of course they have division, they have
all kinds of problems, but listen, I would like to
have their problems personally. I would like to have that
issue of too many bridges and too many infrastructure projects
as opposed to what we're saying the Baltimore Bridge, which
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apparently is barely you know, we're not even a projected
timeline to finish all that quickly. How many potholes you
and I drive here in Washington, DC area every day.
It's a shithole, Like it's a shithole, and nobody does
anything about it, and everybody's blaming each other. The metro our,
you know, in our premiere flagship city here in Washington,
over the last ten years, it's gotten so much worse,
(34:25):
probably the same with a lot of different public transportation.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
I was, I mean, our government is literally shut in,
our shot out, and there's like no one even cares
no hope of it reopening. Anytime soon. Air travels apparently slowed.
I know there's a smaller airports that have no air
traffic control. That's the level of dysfunction that we're at
in this country. And especially, I mean, you know, especially
when you have the crackdown and descent now that's coming
(34:50):
from this country as well. It's not like we can
even be like, yeah, but at least we're free. At
least we can say whatever we want. Oh really, we're
about to tell you about Berry Whis's taking over CBS News.
So how's that going for us as well?
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yeah, listen, should we go? Should we? Should we transition?
Speaker 2 (35:03):
It's a good transition, very wise. Now officially editor in
chief over at CBS News. It is wild, like just
to reflect on who this person is and where she
came from and what I mean, she's like, you know,
she was this opinion writer at the New York Times.
She was like at odds with her colleagues there and
(35:25):
ends up leaving the Times after feeling some level of pressure.
Starts the quote unquote free press. And now because I
mean listen, it's because she will consistently toe the Zionist line.
Like it's very clear why she got the job.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Now.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
She is going to be editor in chief over at CBS.
So let's go ahead and take a listen to a
little bit of her video from the main Free Press
channel talking about what she is bringing to the table
over there this morning.
Speaker 8 (35:53):
The Free Press is joining Paramount. This movie is a
testament to many things, the Free Press team, the vision
of Paramounts new leaders, the luck of starting an independent
media company at just the right moment, and the courage
of my colleagues to leave behind old worlds to build
a new one. There is a market, a big one,
(36:13):
for honest journalism, and you've given us a mandate to
pursue that mission from an even bigger platform. I'm going
to continue to lead this incredible community alongside my tireless team,
remaining CEO and editor in chief of The Free Press,
and of course hosting this show. But as of today
I'll be taking on another title too. I'm now Editor
(36:34):
in Chief of CBS News, working with new colleagues on
the programs that have impacted American culture for generations, shows
like Sixty Minutes and Sunday Morning, and also shaping how
millions of Americans read, listen, watch, and most importantly understand
the news in the twenty first century.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Okay, so we got that. We also have her letter
that she sent out to CBS News employees that we
can put up on the screen. Dear colleagues, thrilled and
humble to be writing you this as the new editor
in chief of CBS. You can see the principles that
she lays out that she says she will champion number One,
journalism that reports on the world as it actually is.
Journalism that is fair, fearless, factual, respects our audience, to
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tell the truth, plainly makes sense of a noisy, confusing world,
explains things, clearly, holds both American political parties equal scrutiny,
et cetera, et cetera. I want to revise a little
bit what I said at the top, that she got
the job just because she's an art Zionis. That's certainly
part of it. That's a huge part of it. But
I think the best way to understand the free press
(37:38):
and the role that they served, putting aside the pro
Israel propaganda, which has become a central part of what
they did but wasn't initially prior to your October seventh,
they sort of do the same type of journalism that,
like you know, was being done at places like the
Washington Post in peak woke era where instead of punching
up at power, they would find some random person who
(37:59):
did some stupid and like write a big story. Oh
my god, can you believe this random person like wore
this Halloween costume? They do they Yeah, right, they do
the equivalent of that, but coming from the right.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
So not only do you say it's from the right,
but yeah, not only do.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
They have the consistent commitment, like you will never have
a problem with Barry Weiss doing real journalism around Israel.
That's not going to happen. So not only do you
have that consistent commitment, but you also have a commitment
to always punching down and never really training your sites
on power. Certainly not power when it comes to capital
and money. And so that's what you get truly with
(38:36):
with the Barry White package. That is what you're buying.
And so you know, we've made a lot of fun
about their valuation and ended up being bought for one
hundred and fifty million dollars. Insane, completely insane. But they're
not really paying for the business. They're not really paying
for Certainly, if you look at the YouTube channel, like
this little video she made had like eighteen thousand piece
on it, which you would think would be a big announcement,
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and was one of the better performers on their channel
compared to the rest of what they put out. What
they're paying for is that protection of the elite and
commitment to the Zionist ideological project.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Let me triple down on that. And this is why
people saying it's coming from the writer not understanding what's
happening here. Barry Weiss is a basically traditional center left Zionist.
That's what it has coded right wing very recently, but
is actually a very explicit and comfortable part of the
American elite elite. What she has done very expertly is
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tell extremely rich people what they want to hear. So
and everyone needs to really stick with this because what
happened with the pole Barry wise saga is she got
what according to her, forced out of The New York
Times or whatever.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
For speaking up against wokeism.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
But the reality of her career is going to where
the power is, so you have to give her some
political entrepreneurial credit. She identified remember the IDW, the intellectual
dark web of Rogan and Eric Weinstein and Sam Harris
and all these people. She writes the Big Piece, which
coins the term in The New York Times. She cozies
up to them to go on Rogan into the podcasters
(40:07):
because she can see this alternative system kind of rising.
Of course, her Rogan episode becomes one of the most
viral disastrous moments in history, with the whole Tulsa Gabbert
Toady remark, which has millions upon millions of views on YouTube,
far more, I think than the entire free press channel
combine just putting that out there if you haven't seen it.
But the point is is that at every moment, it's
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all about zeroing in on what can I do. So
when it was very in vogue to be pro free
speech or to code pro free speech, that's what she does.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Then she focuses on the free press.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
The free press itself is basically anti woke leftism, which
is the ideology of the super elite, which is you
have these people are like the technology industry in particular,
by the way, who all invested in the free press,
not because they thought it was a good investment, but
because it was an.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Ideological project for them.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
They're like socially liberal and all of that, but they
just really hate, you know, either wokeism or they want
to be able to stand up for i don't know,
like a better New York Times opinion page.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Like they think that that is the greatest thing. That
is the thing.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
And that's where the quote punching down really starts to
come from. It's not even really down, it's just not
at the top. And that's how you ingratiate yourself. And
look at her career since the Free Press. She moved
to Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
This is very key.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
She gets her name dropped in a Curb Your Enthusiasm
episode because she's Larry David really likes Barry Wise. She
was at the Bezos wedding. The way that this entire
thing even came about is that what did she do?
She ingratiated herself with the Ellison family, who, of course,
this is like the classic example of you know, Larry Ellison.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Socially liberal, physically conservative.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
Loves guys like Tim Scott in the Republican Party, and
of course mega Zionist him and his son.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
She courts him.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
He brings her to the Allen Company meading right, which
is like the famous meeting or of the confab of
the global super elite rich. And that's where this whole
deal gets broken. The Bezos thing, like I mentioned, it's
all about ingratiating yourself to the people who are at
the very very top. And what they all got annoyed
about was wokeism, and particularly they got annoyed by journalism
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which would challenge them. Now, a lot of that journalism
was actually very annoying and stupid, like you just talked
about the Halloween costume or some woke bullshit about how
Mark Zuckerberg stole the election for Donald Trump because of
Cambridge analytics, of totally fake story. But that radicalized a
lot of the tech elite to be able to bry
into a critique of journalism, which doesn't really, though, actually
(42:42):
get to the fundamental critique, because the critique originally, let's say,
of the Zuckerberg thing, is you're focusing all this Cambridge
analytica and you're trying to control the censorship machine, but
you're not actually focusing on the censorship machine itself or
the conglomeration and the massive amounts of power. She has
never once actually challenged anything powerful in the entire term
of the free press except for basically going after critics
(43:05):
of Israel, and then you supercharge October seventh on top
of that. There is no world where this gets bought
for one hundred and fifty million after October seven or
before October seven.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
It doesn't happen.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
Why because at the end of the day, this whole
anti woke oh publishing like vague critiques of the COVID regime.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
I'm like, I'm sorry, this is milktet shit.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Ind the days of the Internet, it's not courageous to
publish a guy who said, oh, mask mandates were stupid. Right,
people on YouTube have been saying this stuff for years.
What it's really all about is about trying to try
in some middle ground where it's kind of critiquing people
in power and it's supposedly subversive because it's vaguely points
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and winks at some of the independent eras of the Internet,
and then kind of washing it together to make it
more respectable.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
October seventh poured.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Gasoline on that, because, as I just said, when you
cozy up to the people in power, you fundamentally become
kind of an arm of their interests, and in particular,
a lot of the tech elite who backed her also
happened to be mega Zionists themselves, and that's also a
project which has been core to her conception since her
very beginning in politics. And you marry that with again,
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she speaks the language of the elite, and of course
is mega pro Israel, and so can use her like
veneer of respectability to turn murdering mass amounts of Palestinian
children into an intellectually defensible cause, like that's what the
entire thing is about. That's her real value. Well that
yes and no, because at the same time, it's still
(44:35):
so important for these mega tech titans and others who
back her to also have her serve as like a
punching bag or a puncher to all of their ideological opponents.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Part of what happened and why, I mean, I'm a
little confused by characterizing her politically. I mean, they threw
like an inauguration party for Donald Trump. They hired Batia,
they hired Abigail Schreyer, who's like, you know, the anti translated,
like they've clearly you know, that's what and they've done that, Okay,
but they've done a lot of work in the sphere
(45:11):
of questioning transgenderism. I guess we'll say something that is
right wing. I mean it is right wing. But in
any case, she three press really comes out of this
like sense of all these kids on college campuses are
going too crazy. And to your point about the alignment
with like the tech oligarchs, they were pissed off at
(45:32):
their own employees for being like annoying on a variety
of issues and wanting to you know, wanting to wanting
to castigate them and have it yeah, pronins in the
bi like all that sort of stuff. And so that's
why she's really part of this tech elite shift to
the right on cultural issues in particular, and that is
the role that she served for them. And then in
(45:54):
addition to this, you know, her most consistent principle throughout
her career, even starting when she was in college, is
like commitment to Israel and cancelation on behalf of Israel.
You know, this is the same lady who was all
in on, oh, work against wokeness, we're against cancel culture
until it comes to Israel, and then she totally flips
on a dime. So that's why I say, you know,
the the real benefit if we zoom out of the
(46:17):
free press and Barry Weiss's approach to quote unquote journalism
is that you're never going to have to worry that
actual centers of power are going to be challenged, whether
that is, you know, with regard to Israel, that's regard
to tech elite, whether that's in regard to concentrations of capital.
That is not what she's going to focus on. That's
not what her project is going to ultimately be. And
so that's what you're getting for that.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
The reason why I wouldn't describe her as right wing.
And she's also one of the people to punch, you know, explicitly.
Let's say, you know, anybody, anybody talking about immigration, right
she's one of the one of those people who would
happily punch Biden on the border.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
But she'd be like, oh, but some of this stuff
is just going way too far.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
Can you agree with that?
Speaker 3 (46:55):
But you're talking about ice, I'm talking about like actual
calling for restrictions. And she's always trying to kind of
control and she's basically trying to gate keep.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
A lot of the right wing.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
I'm not trying to do that, by the way, you know,
And one of the things is is that she uses
a lot of this kind of concern trolling around norms
and the establishment, etc. To explicitly push a very neo
conservative agenda both on Israel and on Iran. That's why,
you know, the neoliberals themselves Baries a perfect example pro
Israel supposedly right wing. I mean, look, I'm not bringing
(47:27):
her personal life into this to denigrate her. I'm saying
she is personally at lesbian right. And so this is
somebody who I at least I'm assuming as some socially
liberal values right and traditionally has been quote of the
left by her own admission. The only reason it codes
right today for a variety of culture war reasons. But
what a lot of people who kind of share my
(47:47):
politics is really view that as a takeover of what
a lot of more populist energy really was, you know,
in the American right wing. And so really what we
have seen is kind of this sane oligarch or this
like bonis oligarch washing and trying to turn themselves into
like the true prop up of the Trump agenda, or
even anything that even resembles what the issue set was
(48:08):
for a lot of people to even trump back Trump
in twenty sixteen and again here, But all of it
does come back to basically being a social staple of
the world super elite and being their go to person.
Van Jones is another example. Like you have a variety
of these types of characters. I would say Bill Maher
is one of them, although I guess he does have
his own audience.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
Van Jones, Barry Weisse.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
I'm trying to think of if Thomas Friedman, Tyler Cowen,
who will get to here in a little bit. Guys
who are just absolutely beloved by somebody with a net
worth somewhere around five billion and up. I will never
understand it, but it's one of those things that really
speaks to them. And that's why, you know, the Zionism
is a big part of it, but it's not really
the whole story, because it really is is about like
(48:52):
ingratiating yourself with very powerful people, telling them exactly what
they want to hear, and then kind of doing their
bidding and setting up so that you get a world
historic payday from one of the richest men's son in
the world. Yeah, right, and from David Elson. That's what
it's about. And that's actually why it's a grift because
you can see I was pro.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
Free speed, that's the one.
Speaker 3 (49:11):
Then I was, of course, Yeah, I love being called
a grifter. I'm like, oh, really, who's the grifter? The
lady who sets this thing up and sells it off
for one hundred and fifty million, one of the most
bullshit valuations in media history, or the guy who's out
here begging people for ten dollars a month on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
Okay, all right, that's not tough.
Speaker 3 (49:28):
And I didn't, you know, unlike the Free Press, who
supposedly has all these great business thing they spent so
much money trying to get people to sign up for
their subscription program. I you know, because Peace Guy is
a publicly traded company, I would love to see their financials,
like the actual real financials. Yeah, the amount of money
put in the burn and whether they were making any
(49:49):
money at all.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
I would be willing to bet it was in the
red whenever they bought it. But I mean it doesn't
matter because some idiot will buy it.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
But yeah, there you go. Well, Zitao has some reporting
B three we can put up on the screen. As
you might suspect, CBS News insiders are like what the
fuck is going on here? And very leary of what
is to come. And by the way, just so you know,
we're not speculating of a B four up on this
green Glenn Greenwold highlighted this Haret's article. He says, Israeli
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newspaper Howrettes understands what's happening and why Barry Wise appointed
editor in chief of CBS News. And then the subhead says,
weis is a staunch supporter of Israel, and her journalism
often circles back to her Jewish identity. You know, it's
not speculation that a big part of the tumult at
CBS has to do with Israel in particular. We know,
(50:37):
in regard to sixty minutes, they did an actually like
really great piece on Goz. It was belated, et cetera,
but they did it. And apparently Sherry Redstone's very upset
about this, like this was a significant and this is
reported on part of what they were upset with in
terms of the direction of CBS. So Barry is brought
in to correct the course in their view of, you know,
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the direction they're having. And here's you know, to get
back to what Zcger and I were saying about, what
is the free press? What have they been up to.
I mean, here's some examples of what they were up to,
can be five up on the screen. They did this
piece called the Gaza famine myth. They did the piece
about how, oh well, really, you know these kids that
the media is portraying as starving to death, well, really
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they have these other conditions. So it's not fair to
say that Israel is starving them because they have these
pre existing conditions. First of all, there are plenty of
other kids who have been highlighted or literally died from
starvation that don't fit that model. Second of all, it
is no revelation, of course whatsoever that people who are vulnerable,
who have pre existing conditions are going to be the
ones who are most vulnerable in a state imposed famine.
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So that's the type of work that they have been
doing on behalf of the Zionis project.
Speaker 3 (51:51):
Yeah, and that's just and see, that's what was a
big part of the value proposition. And I'm not a
huge defender of CBS News. They've published a lot of
stupid shit over the years. By the way, one of
the things I hate most about the network news thing
is that they get all kinds of preferential treatment and
ad rates that prop up their failing business. I wish
they would be able to compete with us on a
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normal market, but we also wanted to pull some of
the non Israel stuff that these people are buying. This
is the compelling content that will now be available to
the entire nation by a network news.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 9 (52:24):
Thinnyboard day and broke how a generation of men eat.
The culture of personality he left in his wake is
frankly and sufferable. A lot of what we're seeing in
food culture chef culture today has its roots in the
type of eating and journalism Anthony Bourdain did. Bourdanes treated
ordering soup like a search and rescue mission, and now
every man thinks they have to splunk into some cave
(52:46):
in order to get a bull of phu, and unless
they do, they're not really having dinner. Everyone just needs
to calm down, take a step back, enjoy the slice
of pizza or burger you're eating.
Speaker 2 (52:56):
It's not that deep.
Speaker 1 (52:58):
It's not that deep, says Barry's sister.
Speaker 3 (53:01):
They're in her compelling cultural content. That's some of the
stuff that you're missing out on if you haven't been
a Free Press subscriber.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
Her fifty million dollar value right there, that's.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
Your one hundred value.
Speaker 3 (53:12):
We also have a great one here from our friend Griffin,
who has flagged this. Let's put B eight up here
on the screen. This is about Tyler Cowen, who I
mentioned writing about how his favorite actress is not human.
Tillie Norwood doesn't need a hairstylist, has no regrettable tweets,
And if you wish to see a virgin on screen,
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this is one of your better chances. That's because she's
Ai rights.
Speaker 2 (53:39):
If you wish to see a virgin on screen.
Speaker 1 (53:43):
Okay, okay, right.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (53:48):
Interesting, that's what the great journalism over at Free Press is.
And then finally this is.
Speaker 2 (53:55):
I have to say it was pretty fearless for them
to publish that.
Speaker 3 (53:57):
I guess, yeah, certainly fearless. Indeed, this is one of
my other favorites. We've talked a lot about Olivia Ryan
Gold here. She's the lady who wrote that past about
friend of the show, who, by the way, you all know,
obsessively watches the show because it's one of those people
that google's her own name and her Google alerts sept
for them, and so Olivia is one of the is
she's the woman who wrote that piece about the Gaza
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starvation myth right at the Gaza, about how all of
the children who were used in photos were had pre
existing conditions. That was her thing as to why people
in Gaza weren't actually starving. I just want to give
everyone to a view of the psychopathology of some of
the people here. This is a multi essay tweet that
Olivia put out around the time that she joined the
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Free Press January twenty five about how being half Jewish
has been the most painful experience of her entire life.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
And she goes on and on and on about the absolute.
Speaker 3 (54:55):
Pain of being half Jewish and not being considered Jewish
enough to be Jewish by some American Jews and broad
Mitzwing and the convert, etc. And how eventual her journey
you know, to the religion. This isn't to make fun
of somebody's religious journey. It's only to show you the
psychopathology again of the type of individual who gets hired
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over at the Free Press, because I looked into Ryan
Gold's career and again this is the journalistic standard that
is now happening over at at CBS News.
Speaker 1 (55:26):
This is going to be the editor in chief.
Speaker 3 (55:27):
Olivia Ryan Gold was the podcast producer for Matt Iglesias.
She was a podcast producer over at Politico. Had never
written in her bio on the Free Press. It makes
it seem like she came from Politico. She never wrote
a fucking story, not one, all right, And so I'm
looking through and look not to shame podcast producers. Our
podcast producer is great. I'm sure he'd be doing a
(55:49):
lot better job than her. But I bet you if
he were hired somebody else, let's say Griffin or macwhire,
somewhere else, they would not try and play it off
as if they were here, Like let's say hosting the show.
I said, Griffin's case the show, So it's like they
were genuinely more qualified. And then she comes over and
is like, I left Politico because of their horrible journalists.
Speaker 1 (56:10):
I'm like, bitch, you never wrote a story. What are
we doing I'm talking about here?
Speaker 3 (56:14):
You don't even written a byeline, and now you're some
Gaza famine expert. She's the same lady who who did
the thing where she's like, I read every single one
of Zoran mom Donnie's what was it? Thirty thousand tweets
it's called journalism. Again, no wonder this way you think
journalism is you never had a real journalism job.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
What are we talking about? So that's the standard.
Speaker 3 (56:34):
So if you can painfully tweet about your journey of
being half Jewish and like like emotionally trying to put
this out there as some weird I don't even know
what the hell was going on with that. And then
also recently went to the Columbia Journalism bookstore and was like,
they're selling Korans and.
Speaker 1 (56:51):
People were like, it's on the syllabus.
Speaker 2 (56:55):
Yeah, and she showed the other books that we're about,
like I don't know, slavery or something. Oh my gosh,
can you believe that students at Columbia are getting educated
on world religion? Like? What?
Speaker 4 (57:04):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (57:05):
Shocker, absolute shocker.
Speaker 4 (57:07):
You know.
Speaker 3 (57:07):
The funny thing is people actually looked at the University
of Austin, which is that whole Barry Weiss's disaster, the
anti woke university.
Speaker 1 (57:14):
They have the Koran on their cyllabus.
Speaker 3 (57:16):
Okay, so yeah, it's like, well, Barry's university thinks the
Koran is worth teaching, but according to Olivia, it's not.
This is the standards of what is now going to
be acceptable over at CBS. And what's even crazier is
that Barry will report directly to David Ellison, just to
make sure everybody knows what this whole thing is about.
The new editor in chief is reporting directly to the
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owner of the entire company. And the reason why is
because it all needs to come back to, you know,
what he thinks is important, not only for his own
bottom line.
Speaker 1 (57:46):
It couldn't be more obvious well.
Speaker 2 (57:49):
CBS News, for anybody that isn't like totally ever line
that he.
Speaker 3 (57:52):
Wont Yeah, look again, I'm not defending CBS. I think
they've published a lot of stupid shit over the years.
I'm not saying they weren't anyway, some great, amazing journal
stick institution.
Speaker 1 (58:01):
But the question pretty good.
Speaker 3 (58:02):
No, yeah, that's not all sixty minutes, right, Yeah, there's
a lot of other people who work.
Speaker 2 (58:06):
Yeah, I know, but I'm just saying I like to
defend some of the work that they were doing. They've
done some point, it's just that you can make it
a lot worse exactly.
Speaker 3 (58:13):
So my point is, if you wanted to fix it,
is this how you would fix it? Because that's their
theory is that the theory of what's gone wrong apparently
over at CBS is that it's not pro Israel enough,
even though the previous owner literally was one of the
most has said since selling it that being pro Israel
is like one of the most important things to her
and to promoting the cause of Zionism. And you put
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it all together, and in particular also with the way
this entire merger all went down, where do you think
things are going to go? Yeah, so you have a
preview there. Who she likes to hire her own relatives
to produce some Anthony Bourdet style slop content. Olivia Ryan Gould,
who never apparently had written a real story before it's
joining over at the Free Press, and Tyler Cowen to
(58:57):
talk about virgin Ai.
Speaker 2 (58:59):
Bagdad Okay, different things that are indefensible for the Trump regime,
got it? Yeah, I mean I think there also is
one other element, which is we talked about this a
little bit with Brilin Hollyhand. I think she also because
she's below the age of sixty, there's all and she
you know, has an Internet thing that there's also this
sense of like she'll help us bring back the young people, right,
(59:21):
But it's what she the role she serves, is is
like convincing older people that she has some finger on
the pulse of young people, even though.
Speaker 1 (59:30):
That's also definitely true. Yeah, very very very true.
Speaker 3 (59:33):
So anyway, that is our long take there. It's it's Zionism,
it's power, it's capital. It's about telling very rich people
exactly what they want to hear, and it is a
great way to get paid. So I guess congratulations, congratulations
to all of them and to everybody else who has this.
You know, CBS this morning and all that stuff in
your house. Now you know where a lot of it
is coming from. Yeah, let's get to ventis for the channel.
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Turning now to Venezuela. Absolutely massive news here from the
New York Times. Going to put this up here on
the screen. Quote Trump has now called off all diplomatic
outreach to Venezuela. The move paves the way for a
possible military escalation against drug traffickers or the government of
Nicholas Maduro. So I'm going to read portions of this
just so everybody understands how batshit crazy it all is.
(01:00:19):
Quote President Trump has called off efforts to reach diplomatic
agreement with Venezuela. Rick Grennell who had been leading negotiations
with Maduro and other top Venezuelan officials, but during a
meeting with senior military leaders on Thursday, Trump called Grennell
and instructed him all diplomatic outreach, including talks with Madureau,
is to stop. Trump has grown frustrated with Maduro's failure
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to accede to American demands to give up power voluntarily
and continued insistent by Venezuelan officials that they have no
part in drug trafficking. American officials have said the Trump
administration has now drawn up multiple military plans for escalation.
Those operations could also include plans to force mister Maduro
from power. Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, has called
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Maduro quote an illegitimate leader and repeatedly cited US indictment
of him on drug trafficking charges.
Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
This is insane, This is completely Did you read that.
Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
Headline, Yeah, the paragraph said mister Trump has grown frustrated
at Maduro's decision not to accede to demands to stop
down from power.
Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
What.
Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
Yeah, So we're just calling me like, hey, you gotta go, man,
and he's like no, and they're like okay, Fine, We're
just gonna.
Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Force you out.
Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
Why because allegedly you're involved in drug trafficking. I mean, look, maybe,
but at the end of the day, in terms of
the whole drug trafficking thing, as we have covered here
on the show.
Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
It's like seven percent of all the cocaine in the
United States. It's nothing.
Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
You want to look at a government complicit in cocaine
trafficking is called Mexico. Do we do anything about it? No,
because the number one trading partner with the US, and
it's got a big problem.
Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
All right, you want to look at a government complicit
in drug trafficking, look at ourselves and talk to Seth
Hart about the war and again stand, okay, we're going
to be super real here. No, I mean I I
it's I think people can't wrap their heads around how
crazy this is because they just can't accept that this
is actually happening. But it really is happening. All of
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the you know, attacks on these boats that they tell
us are drug smugglers, but there's they offer zero evidence
of that. And oh, by the way, the widow of
one of the people that was murdered on one of
these Venezuela boats says he was just a fisherman.
Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
So and maybe she's lying. Nobody knows, Yeah, but they there's.
Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
No reason to trust this government, right, And we know,
as you've pointed out, as you know, a statistics show
like that would be very unlikely that a boat would
be coming from Venezuela with drugs. That's just not really
the way that the drug trafficking goes. Do some drugs
transit through Venezuela? Yes, do they get put on these
small boats with eleven people on them, by the way,
as one of them was very very very unlikely. In
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any case, all of this is a build up to
a regime change war. You have Marco rum in there,
who's been horny for this war for forever. So that's
a major part of this. You have Trump, and I
want people to understand this too. This isn't just about Venezuela.
Trump's efforts to classify drug traffickers as terrorists and as
(01:03:15):
enemy combatants. Obviously, they are drug traffickers here in the US.
And so if you are saying this is we are
at war with these people and these are enemy combatants,
guess what then, Yeah, you don't have to go through
due process. You just can murder them and say, oh, well,
they were terrorists, drug trafficker, enemies of the state. So
it opens up Pandora's box in terms of the power
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of this administration not to mention the way they are
very clearly. I mean, this is the most clear indication
that they're marching us along the path to a direct
regime change effort.
Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
Here and no people, I mean, look credits to the
times they broke the story. Although I will say, having
dealt with some of the stuff in the past, let's
just say that a lot of people who are against
this are going to be leaking like hell against Marco Rubio.
I know some of the interpersonal dynamics that are involved here.
Rubio himself is the most powerful White House official. This
is where I want to stick on and this is
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the danger and you can roll. I talked about Venezuela
exactly whenever he was appointed. I was like, guys, this
is dangerous because the cope I got was he's changed
his tools in Ukraine, he's changed his tune. And I go, yeah, maybe,
but what about the issue areas what Trump doesn't care about,
like Venezuela.
Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
I actually think I said that on Alex Friedman podcast.
Here we are now here. Today.
Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
Trump doesn't care about Venezuela to the extent that he did.
He cares about some win against the drug traffickers. So
Rubio dresses up something about how it's actually Maduro is
involved in drug trafficking, and Trump is like, yeah, okay,
let's go right. And now he's like, oh, yeah, we've
got to have a win down there, and he somehow
convinced himself that knocking Maduro out of power is going
(01:04:50):
to be some grand, amazing thing that can be very
easily done, apparently by the United States military. This is
a fantasy. Remember, Ruby himself and the entire South Florida
community has been obsessed with Venezuela for their own personal,
expatriate reasons. That is the only reason, all right, not
for the rest of us. It's like the old Cuba politics,
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except now applied to Venezuela. Those people have been salivating
over regime change in Venezuela now four years. And what
they have done is that the representative Marco Rubio, who
previously tweeted a picture of Maduro next to Mohammar Gaddafi,
is that they explicitly want violent US backed regime change,
which of course is only going to make Maduro do
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what dig In.
Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
Wouldn't you if that's what happened to you.
Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
And this is the context of all of these strikes,
because none of it makes any sense if you're thinking
about drug trafficking. If you're going to strike a drug cartel,
they're all in Mexico, They're all in Colombia. Ninety three
percent of all it comes from there. You want to
talk about fentanyl, it's all coming from China transitting via
in Mexico. The DEA estimates one hundred percent of all
fentanyl that enters the United States comes from Mexico. One
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hundred percent comes from Mexico.
Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
By the way, to actual trafficker, like the people carry
it across the border, most of them are American citizens by.
Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
The way, Yes, many are America. Yeah, I mean, I'm
not denying that.
Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
At a work for the drug cartels, yes, all right,
but we're talking about the individuals where the individual people.
The way I understand that it usually works now is
that the drug cartels will bring it to the border
and they don't want to deal with it in America,
and so they tell the American criminal organizations, you come across,
you get it, and you drive across the border. We
own Mexico. We don't need to worry about problems here.
But your government is your own problem, right, So that's
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broadly what the story is. It's obviously a multifaceted issue
of which we could actually do something about if we
wanted to. But that's a separate conversation because it has
nothing to do with Venezuela. What's happening in Venezuela is
like this neo con fever dream where they've whipped themselves
up into demanding this guy step down for power.
Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
For what what possible purpose? Who cares? Who rules Venezuela? Nobody.
You can't even really say that this is about.
Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
Oil now at this point, although it wouldn't be a
bad idea to buy it from him either if we
got something out of it.
Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
Let's say it with a migrant deal or something.
Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
Yeah, I mean there were previous negotiations, yeah about it's
a great deal. And the other thing about this is,
let's say they get their fondest dream and you know,
they get their GOODAFI situation, Like, how did that go
for Libya exactly? How will that go for Venezuela. You
people are supposed to be opposed to you know, refugees,
like how many migrants? What kind of a migrant crisis
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is that going to create? I mean, it's just insane.
Why do you want a failed state? Why do you
want a failed state? But that is exactly what they're
gunning for thing here, and I think it also you know,
I can't get into Trump's head, but number one, I
think there's a boomer Cold war mentality. Number two, they
tried a regime change thing in his first administration with
the whole one Guido situation, and then there was some
like former Navy seal that turned up there that they
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claimed they had nothing to do with, but it appears
that they may have also been funding or supporting some
sort of you know, former special ops to go in
and actually actively try. There was some evidence to support that,
to actively try, and that didn't work. So I think
there's also the sense of like, oh I failed the
first time, I got to get him back, like I
got to prevail this time around. That comes from Trump
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fed by Marco Rubio. And then obviously Trump likes the
power and control from just being able to say this
person's a drug trafficker, so I can just murder them
because they're an enemy combatant. Let's put C one up
on the screen which talks about this aspect of it
in particular, which people really need to again sit with
Trump determines just Trump by himself, not in consultation with
(01:08:29):
the Congress. Certainly, the US is now in a war
with drug cartels and the informed Congress of this. And
let me read a little bit of what he says here.
They say, mister Trump's move to formally deem his campaign
against drunk cartels as an active arm conflict means he
is cementing his claim to extraordinary wartime powers legal specialists.
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Set in an armed conflict, as defined by international law,
a country can lawfully kill enemy fighters even when they
post no threat, detain them indefinitely without trials, and prosecute
them in military courts. The focus, they say, of the
administration's attacks has been boats from Venezuela. The surge of
overdose debts in recent years been driven by fentanel, which
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drug trafficking experts say comes from Mexico, not South America.
Beyond factual issues, the bare bones argument has been broadly
criticized on legal grounds. Think about you know the way
this normally works. They say, police arrest suspected drug dealers,
it'd be a crime do instead summarily gun them down.
But in an armed conflict, it is lawful to kill
combatants for the opposing force on site. So that's why
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I say we need to focus on Venezuela and what's
happening there. But this also gives Trump extraordinary lethal powers
to use against anyone that the government claims is a
suspected drug dealer and to summarily execute them without going
through any sort of due process. Like that is the
power that they are claiming right now, and to me,
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that is absolutely terrified.
Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
I'm also very afraid of is that would be the
authority to assassinate Maduro as you could say he was
a drug absolutely that that is where I'm like, yo,
this could get wild, very very very quickly. Luckily, there
are some voices that are speaking out and that are
paying attention to this. Steve Bannon and them trying to
put some pressure on the White House from the right
saying hey enough, let's not do this, calling out Marco Rubio.
Speaker 4 (01:10:18):
Let's take a listen, little Marco, our secretary of State,
who's we've tried to shift away from being a Neocon,
I thought were there. He's got an amphibious ready group
off the coast of Venezuela and they're up on Capitol
Hill pitching. And this is the first time that the
Trump administration, I think, has ever acknowledged issues structural issues
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or customs and traditions. So they're trying to get ahead
of the War Powers Act by saying no, no, no, no, no,
you've misinterpreted. These are non state actors, these are drug dealers,
and we're gonna do a lot more in just taking
out these speedboats. The plan is, I think been leaked
that they intend to or at least a plan is
to tend to take over the ports and transportation nodes
in an action invasion.
Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
Yeah. I mean, well said, he's exactly right about this
huge empathy.
Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
And you know the thing is, and you know, I
want to give Ryan credit, and you know, maybe two
Dar's horn a little bit from the beginning when we
saw that amphibious group, I was like, oh man, this
is not about drugs, because you have to put it
together with you have to have lived in Washington and
seen and saw this stuff long enough to know the
hard on that the neo cons still have for Latin
America and they're obsessed with Venezuela.
Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
I will never understand it. Even israel I kind of
get it. It's religious, right, Okay, I mean you can.
Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
You're not sympathize, but you can intellectually understand that Ukraine,
same thing, NATO Russia Cold War and all the Venezuela
Why what is this has no meaningful impact on us
at all? And it's like they are just obsessed with it.
To the point where as you said about the whole
migrant crisis, I mean, part of the huge number of
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these people are Venezuelan, part of the because of the
chaos down there. You want to create more chaos, right,
But you said we're gonna create more chaos to have
left chaos. How's that gonna work. No, we want stability
in Venezuela. So you know, it'd be great if it
came from a dureau. If not, whatever, that's our problem.
It has nothing to do with us, and instead we're
creating all this legal justification from the Trump thing to
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now this ending of diplomacy.
Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
Guys, let's put see five up here on the screen.
This is again, this is scary as shit.
Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
This is from cash Mattel. He says, Maduro isn't just corrupt,
he's an indicted narco terrorist with a fifty million dollar
DOJ bounty. Under my leadership, the FBI is now checking
off every dollar, every account, every enabler. America will never
be a safe haven for his blood money. But remember
here he's calling him narco terrorists, which fits with that
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debt legal definition which we learned earlier. Fifty million dollars
DOJ bounty. Apparently they want to raise it to some
one hundred million. They're basically trying to encourage what some
sort of coup inside of the Venezuelan government, which again,
like has is America even good enough at coups anymore?
Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
Not really?
Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
Like when's the last time we pulled off a coup
exactly in Latin America that was apparently, you know, worked
out well.
Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
I think it's been a long time. This is the
nineteen seventies.
Speaker 3 (01:13:08):
So the point is just around all of this is
it's a psychotic, insane, ideological plan. Trump is either too
stupid or he knows exactly what's going on here, and
that there is not there's no pressure from what I
have seen from the ideological kind of anti war right,
except from Steve Bannon and from Kurt Mills, who was
played in that clip. And I think the reason is
(01:13:31):
that they've been effectively bamboozled with this drug trafficking thing
because it's like a fantasy, right, But we got to
take it to the cartels.
Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
I think a lot of people want that. I want that,
but we have to live in reality. Can we really
just bomb Mexico? Not really?
Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
When it's the number one trading partner of the United States.
It's a problem, right, what do you do? Do you
want a nuke the US economy and NAFTA overnight all
these trucks that come across the border. It's not a
feasible solution. And then at the same time you have
you know, oh, they killed all of us, and so
they're trying to tie a fentanyl to it. That's what
I immediately saw from a lot of the government is like,
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this is all about fentanyl. I'm like, this is literally
a lot like there's no fensanyl that comes from Venezuela
to the United States. None, zero, And you're trying to
disguise like a regime change war. And so a lot
of the more traditional anti war right is not up
in arms about this because they actually buy the bullshit.
They don't do their own research. You can only point
to Bannon and ran Paul and then of course the media.
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I mean, this should be wall to wall shit, cutting
off diplomacy, cutting off diplomacy with Maduro and saying we
are actively considering regime change at the very same time.
Do you have an entire amphibious naval assault group and
we're bombing things in the Caribbean and international waters and
you're telling you you need to be a genius the
war or telling you that this is a war wake
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up like this is as close that we are possibly
could be. And I actually think the lack of pressure
makes it ten times more likely because at least they
are somewhat receptive to online criticism. You can't deny that
some of the a anti Israel, anti you know, Gaza
or anti Israel like part of the right.
Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
Wing anti Iran strike and iron right, it did that engagement.
Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
Yeah. Look, obviously we were not successful on Ukraine. Same thing.
I think some of the pushback had some impact.
Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
I have not gotten even ten percent of what I want,
but I do think that kind of organizing a coalition
being very loud, actually did something about this. Here there's
nothing because everybody buys the drug trafficking shit, and that
makes it that Plus the political constituency where does Trump
live Crystal Florida? Right, who do you think is surrounded
by down in Palm Beach?
Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
It's bad? Yeah, this is very bad.
Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
No, I think you're right. I think that, you know,
people on the right just say like, oh, the boat
went boom, cool, you know, like way to go based,
and that's like as it's so, I mean, as you
pointed out, they're literally announcing what they're doing here, and
everyone's just pretending like this isn't happening. Trump made some
pretty ominous comments to let's go ahead and play see eight.
They're not coming in by sea anymore, so now we'll
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have to start looking about the Landau'll be forced to
go by land. And let me tell you right now,
that's not going to work out well for them either.
So they're not coming by sea anymore. Now they're coming
by land. So we'll have to look at the land.
What does that mean? What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
That?
Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
What kind of an expansion of Now who are you
going to be drone striking, bombing and whatever? Where are
they going to be What is that going to mean?
Speaker 3 (01:16:18):
Yeah, are we doing strikes inside of Venezuela again, Like
you know, they keep floating this stuff in Mexico.
Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
I'll believe it when I see it.
Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
I just simply do not believe it will happen because
of the geopolitical ramifications for trade. And look, Mexico is
a democracy. I mean, shine bomb is very popular, and
they have all kinds of corruption problems.
Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
I would never defend the Mexican government.
Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
But at the very least, like the one thing they
are probably not going to tolerate, in my opinion, is
literal bombing on their soil without the explicit, explicit permission
of the Mexican government, which you and I is never going.
Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
To know is never going to happen.
Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
And she literally has like a ninety two perperating they're
very united by exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
And by the way, they're actually kind of working with
us a little bit right now, not that it's actually
doing anything. Apparently cocaine is importation is higher than ever,
So yes, congratulations, these strikes are really doing a lot
to actually stop the amount of cocaine coming into America.
Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
You know, there's another point to be made there too,
which is that drug trafficking convictions are actually way down
because they've reassigned so many of the federal agents that
would normally be focused on that to like rounding up
Jose at Home Depot, so they have, you know, drug trafficking,
human trafficking. Those sorts of convictions and indictments are significantly
down under this administration because of where they have shifted
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their resources to.
Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
Ryan actually, by the way, thinks it's a good thing.
He said, America needs to do more cocaine.
Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
So that's that's right. Yeah, it's the most right, Don Junior. Hey, Yeah,
I guess I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:17:44):
I think it's sad, you know, people poisoning their brains.
I guess they think it's a good thing. Finally, by
the way, we would just be remiss just to not
point out who some of the clowns involved in all
of this are. Can we put this please on the
screen to challenge coin. Cash Hotel has now come out
with his own genre of challenge coin. For those who
are not just listening, how would you possibly describe this?
Speaker 4 (01:18:05):
What is this is?
Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
Like? The on the back it says, presented by the
director of the FBI Cash Betel and has his signature.
Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
Two guns pointed down. Real tough, tough guy in the
g WAT community.
Speaker 3 (01:18:21):
I would hope that anybody who does this type of
stuff is cringe and I won't say the other word.
Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
That they usually would say that a company somebody who
has something like this.
Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
In general, people who have fought and died and you know,
generally don't memify it into punisher.
Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
Logos, and that is one of the most try.
Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
Yeah, exactly, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:18:47):
Yeah, at least he is a good reminder that all,
not all the stereotypes about Indians are true, because some
of them are fucking idiots.
Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
But he's true. Thank you Cash for showing me the
country that we are or not all true of all. Indeed,
some of us can.
Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
Also be forty year old losers who talk about Valhalla
and have challenge coins and can podcast their way to
the top.
Speaker 1 (01:19:13):
So yeah, thank you Keas.
Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
Yeah, haven't gotten an update on that Tyler Robinson investigation.
Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
You know, it's been weeks.
Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
Yeah, you're right, not the news come out at least
from the official channels.
Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
So that's true.
Speaker 9 (01:19:23):
Thing.
Speaker 3 (01:19:23):
I mean, At the same time, the legal system moves slowly,
right I mean we had I mean, Luigi, it's been
what it's been almost nine months right since that happened.
We're not even a trial yet, so yeah, he sat
in prison too far.
Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
To be honest to me, it's more interesting that there
isn't more mainstream journalism digging into Okay, well what was
the timeline. Let's talk to his family members. I mean,
Ken Clippenstein continues to be the only person who really
spoke to any of his friends. How could that be?
You know, like Ken was able to get a hold
of a number of his fronts.
Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
A few, But I mean there is some weird shit
that's going on. I mean, this is all sidetrack. You know.
Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
The so called boyfriend or whatever has gone missing, uh,
you know, is like unable to be found. You got
all these tech you know, the whole Dairy Queen video
from can nobody knows if it's real or not. Stuff
about whether Dairy Queen even existed. I mean, listen, I
have to get too deep.
Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
Down the route.
Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
We did get that one surveillance studio from a gas
station of him like fueling up the next day, just
like casually in the same maroon shirt, fueling up at
some gas.
Speaker 3 (01:20:23):
A police officer who family member, no interview, you know,
nothing like that. Yeah, friends and family, other members of
the discord, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
And there's been nothing major. So anyway, all right, take
that for what you will