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December 15, 2025 • 49 mins

Ryan and Saagar discuss Brown University mass shooting, hero disarms Bondi beach shooter, Rob Reiner killed, insane new Epstein images.

 

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Ryan, can't be two upbeat.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
We have some insane news that when we cover just
in the last like literally twenty four hours.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
A lot of shooting stats. It's just horrific. We're going
to do our best to sort through all of this.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
We're going to take a look at some of the
Epstein photos that were released on Friday from the House
Oversight Committee. May have seen some of them, but we're
going to put them all together so you have a
full reference point that we're going to go through some
of the things that they mean. We're going to talk
about this attack in Syria, of which Ryan and I
spider senses are very very high. You have multiple two
US service members and a US civilian interpreter aka CIA

(01:11):
who was killed, who were killed in Syria in a
shocking circumstance by a quote lone isis gunman. All the circumstances, frankly,
all of my spidy senses are often and something is
not right about this entire thing. Saturday, Barry Weiss had
a town hall with Erica Kirk. Perhaps the most consequential news.
Erica Kirk letting us know this morning that she will

(01:33):
be hosting a meeting today with Candice Owans and that
in the interim turning point, usays long planned a live
stream to depunk us or at least to push back
against Candace Owans as many claims of the Charlie Kirk
assassination is put on hold for now. At the same time,
Barry Weise calling for censorship in her town hall there

(01:53):
with Erica Kirk and Ryan, you also have some good
flags about who the advertisers were, who the New CBS
advertisers were on that in Israel, breaking these can we
call it a seasfire? Is a seasfire if you just
get to kill whoever you want.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
It is offensive to our idea of language.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
Yes, yeah, I know it is what the global community
continues to call it.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
All right, Okay, so global norms.

Speaker 5 (02:13):
I don't know what to do with it.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Global norms.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
And as I have long said here, international humanitarian law
is fake and anything coming out of the United Nations
or all of that, when a ceasefire results in like
dozens of deaths, that's not a ceasefire, right, It's something
you could call it.

Speaker 5 (02:27):
Whatever in another phase of the conflict.

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I like that, And then we will be talking about
marijuana if we have time. If I'm being honest, this
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if we do talk too much. But with all of that,
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(02:51):
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We're going to learn a lot about the Democratic Party,
about the Republican Party. Got these crazy candidates who've been
coming on the Friday Show. Could be the Tea party
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(03:16):
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Speaker 3 (04:16):
The sona, as I said, sauna is cool. All right,
let's get to these shootings. So what we're going to
do is we're going to start with Brown University. Insane
screw up by the FBI's Cash Hotel, just unbelievable. So
we had this shooting at Brown University. Two people tragically
confirmed dead. We do not yet know their identities. Sadly,

(04:37):
apparently their families are traveling for the holidays. Authorities are
still trying to get in touch with them. What we
do know is that over the last twenty four hours,
it's a so called person of interest was taken into
custody by the Providence Police as well as the FBI. Now,
this person's name was actually leaked to the news media
and you know, widespread, there was a lot of analysis.
I'm not going to say their name because he has

(04:58):
now been released and his no longer person of interest.
This is just like the Charlie Kirk thing all over again,
where the FBI is at the center of Providence PD
making very clear that this person of interest who they
took in was a result of an FBI screen tip,
putting solely the blame on cash Hotel.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Let's take a lesson that thing.

Speaker 6 (05:16):
The writer specifically said in his tweet that it was
a tip from Providence Police that led you all to
Hampton And can you confermot that's true? And what exactly
was the evidence that led you to this person at first?

Speaker 7 (05:27):
Yeah, So it was a there was a tip that
came in, just like we were taking any other tips,
and that one came in specifically identifying a person of interest,
which was this individual. Uh, and so we argitect this
guy on it, just like they got another but this
specific one. It was actually picked up by the by
the FBI and they followed through with it and they
ended up coming and located this individual of interest. And

(05:49):
at that point we did our thorough investigation exam and
ended up drafting some searcher formats, came up with some evidence,
but those that evidence was examined and we didn't have
any enough obviously to be able to prosecute anybody, and
so that person was we use.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
So that person was released was again after a triumphant
tweet there from the FBI director.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Let's put that up there on the screen. You go ahead, Ryan, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
So here an update on the FBI response at Brown University.

Speaker 5 (06:16):
This is from Cash Bettel.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
FBI Boston established a command post to intake development, analyze leads,
and run them to the ground. We activated the FBI's
Cellular Analysis Survey Team. These are kinds of things that
a guy says he's not really familiar with the agency,
and it's just excited to show you that he works
there to provide critical geolocation capabilities. As a result, early

(06:39):
this morning, FBI's Safe Streets Task Force, with assistance from
all these other detained a person of interest in a
hotel room in Coventry, Rhode Island, based off a lead
by the Providence, Rhode Island Police Department. We have deployed
local and national resources to process and reconstruct the shooting scene,
providing headquarters and lab elements on the scene. We set

(06:59):
up a digital media intake portal to ingest images and
video from the public related to this incident. The FBI's
victim specialists are fully integrating with our partners to provide
resources to victims and survivors of this perfect violence. The
FBI will continue in all out twenty four seven campaigns
so justice is fully served, thanks to the men and women,
and then finished with oh it turns out that they

(07:20):
got the wrong guy could have What you could have
done is like, very quietly speak to this guy in
the hotel room.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah, that's what you're supposed to do, right, is that?

Speaker 3 (07:28):
And by the way, again, I mean look, mister again,
I'm not gonna say his name. That guy has got
a good defamation lawsuit on his hands. Frankly, because his
name was leaked to the news media. His resume LinkedIn
profile was everywhere people were analyzing some other right, all
the people background were circulated. I mean again, it's just

(07:50):
like the Charlie kirkmank. We had members of our own
audience emailing us telling us, hey, you know, for some reason,
my face has been blasted all over the internet and
I've been falsely accused. I mean, yes, during Charlie Kirk
this is dangerous, guys, seriously very dangerous, and this is
just again clown show. So somebody needs to step up.
I mean, originally, after the Charlie Kirk thing, people realize

(08:13):
what if a disaster it was. And you know, luckily
this time around, we don't have some ridiculous press conference
there from Cash Bettel where you know, stealing FBI agents, jackets.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Or anything of that reportedly allegedly.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
But what we do know right now is that some
forty eight hours post the shooting, we still don't have
any suspect and custody. Let's put that up there on
the screen. They say they are still searching for the
Brown University gunman. They have not released any you know,
the person of interest had been released. They did not
identify any other suspects. So it's been yeah, almost thirty hours.
Now you've got two students who were killed. Look, I mean,

(08:49):
for all the investigative work. They seem to have identified falsely,
at least for now, this individual who was in a
hotel room, like you said, Ryan, they should have just
gone talk to him, run some of the blame sticks
in the forensics and said okay, right, But instead they
made it a big triumphant thing, and you know, his
name was leaked out. Really is just horrific, and in
the interim, obviously the students at Brown University going through terrifying,

(09:12):
not just an ordeal in the immediate term, but you've
got you know, multiple hours now or days now where
they don't know who the person is and how they
got away with, what the targeting allegedly and all of
that may have been. We do Oh my god, I'm
going to give a warning here. This is a student's
mother who was speaking to the news media just about
what it was like to go through this and some

(09:34):
relaying from her own son.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Let's take a listen. What is your son telling you
right now?

Speaker 8 (09:41):
Oh, it's a nightmare. It's a nightmare. They're in the
middle of finals, so they were all on campus studying
at the library, and about an half hour and a
half ago, the first text I get for my son
is a mom. There's a life shooting on campus and
I'm going to run and I love you. I was like, what,

(10:03):
So we've only been texting and I'm getting live updates
from him because he's been We've told him to turn
off his phone, not to make a single sound. But
he's in the supply closet room on campus, barricaded with
tall students. They've turned off the lights, they've put chairs

(10:23):
on their door. One of his classmates is having a
panic attack, so the friends are trying to keep her
quiet so that no sounds are being made.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
So we've got the same type of imagery here. There's
some brown Universis University students who are actually found in
the library and can go and put that up there.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
On the screen. But you can just see, you know,
I mean literally sheltering in the library that terrified.

Speaker 5 (10:45):
And as the police come in here.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
I don't know how much of this clip we have,
it's it's it's terrifying again the police. Now the police
come in right well, pointing their weapons like towards the kids.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Like, I mean, they have no idea what's going on, right, Yeah,
they're also freaking out, like you've got a shoe that's
happening here.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Like it's just a chaotic situation.

Speaker 9 (11:03):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
And then they kind of usher the kids out and
get let them put their bags and like move, move,
move move.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
It's just terrifying.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
And at least it seems like at least two of
these kids who went through this, one of them was
in middle school next to marjorie'stone in Douglass High School
in Parkland, so experienced that lockdown, and another had been
actually shot in another mass shooting. So like, this is
a thing that's happening where people are not as they
grow up, are not involved in just one mass shooting,

(11:31):
but multiple throughout their lifetime.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
We don't know yet who the person who perpetrated this is, obviously,
I don't know. Hope that the FBI. Okay, how about this.
Hope that the tip line comes through like.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
It did with Providence police.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Yeah, I hope it's something, you know, just some good
old fashioned hopefully police work there from Providence. But right now,
things I mean in general, you know, like with the
Tyler Robinson case, at least if you buy that theory,
which I do, but if you buy the Tyler Robinson
theory with that it was he was identified as a result,
but you know, we look, we would show it to you.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
We would be happy to help if we could.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
There's nothing released right now by the PD, nothing about
you know, a photo, anything, you know, which we kind
of had at this time. I mean you would presume
Brown University and any public place carpet and cameras.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
So we don't really have very much as of right now.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
And again there is some information floating around out there
about the victims, but I really would urge caution, let's
let this be a lesson here, especially the person of interest.
You cannot just ruin people's lives. And you know, if
you're if you're out there putting out the names of
victims before they've been released by the officials, you should
consider that somebody could find out about that on social

(12:42):
media and not from an official channel. And if that
happened to you, just put your try to put yourself
in their own shoes. People are out there just posting
for clicks and all of a sudden, It's disgusting, honestly,
but that's that's all we have right now. Colossal failure
by the FBI, just colossal. I mean, no It's not
to say that law enforcement it doesn't routinely Ryan come
up with tips and screen them, but you don't tout

(13:05):
it and make it into a whole thing. They effectively
made it seem as if it was done deal leaking
the name.

Speaker 5 (13:11):
I mean usually again, we got him in a hotel room.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Right, got him in.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
I mean, there were at least all kinds of detail
bragging to the news media. And I mean this person
was a member of the US Army honor guard, okay,
honorably discharged US military, trying to you know, get a
good education, right transfer. This is a person on the
up and up, name out there forever for no reason.

(13:35):
Imagine having to be his family member too. It's sickening
just the way that this was being handled. And I
blame the FBI because they're the ones who, you know,
publicized it. I don't know who leaked his name, but
somebody did, so whoever it is, should be ashamed of yourself.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
But in general, otherwise, we're trying to tell.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Possibly again, I would not assert that without evidence, we're
only just uh, we're just postil that this is now
the second high profile incident. Looks yeah, it turns out
you know, being a professional is useful at the very
top of law enforcement. By the way, you know, just
like with the Charlie Kurr thing, the reason people have

(14:14):
a lot of questions because it was idiotic handling of it, right,
and so it's the same thing this time. I can
imagine making some of families and on this who are
involved here. So anyway, off my soapbox, I guess let's
get to bondype Beach. Oh my god, just another horrific
attack here. So we've got basically here's what we know.

(14:36):
This was what I'm forty eight.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
You know.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
It was over the weekend first first evening, first evening
of Honkkah bondaype Beach, one of the most beautiful places
in the world Bear in Australia. Two gunmen outside of
a hotel take fire at a Honka gathering and massacre
at least fifteen people from what we know right now,

(14:58):
multiple others who were wounded. We do know that the
perpetrators appear to be a father and son who This
was released very recently by Australia, but we have some video.
Again I'm gonna warn everybody you know this is it
can be tough to watch. We blurt out any of
the any gore or anything like that. But just just
keep that in mind. Let's go and put that.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Up here on the screen.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
So, I mean, you know, just it's like an idyllic
location and you have a it was a Honica gathering
literally right there at the beach, you know, this hotel,
and you can hear the gunshots there in the background.
I mean, this is a very very crowded tourist area
and you could see there just you know what it
was like for some of the people who had to
go through this like line low there on the ground.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Oh my god, can you see the person like with
their child, you know, as a parent, Yeah, stay down, imagine.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
Yeah, just absolutely terrifying scenes emerging in a place that
has some of the strictest gun control in the planet.
And then this video emerged of this guy who either
had a death wish or was completely confident in his
ability that he was just not going to get hit.

Speaker 5 (16:08):
That was one of the more bizarre.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
But he's just a guy.

Speaker 5 (16:09):
It's just this an Australian is like, you know what
you should at me.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
I think what's so disgusting here is just like the intention, right,
and you can see there in the video, and because
it's one thing to read about it, but it's to
see somebody like.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Engage and highly motivated to just mope.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
Because Australia has these tight restrictions on semi automatic and
automatic weapons. You see, you saw him there in that
footage with this bolt action rifle, whereas you know, aiming, reloading, aiming, reloading,
aiming reloading, which you know hopefully at least reduced the
number of people rather than if you're just spraying the
entire beach.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
I mean, we've got children who have been confirmed dead.
We don't have a ten year old, at least a
ten year old. I mean again, a religious gathering, Hanika.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
It's just horrific. It's horrific.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
The world has also been captivated by dramatic scenes of
a passerby disarming. So this is aquanl Aqued, a man
who is there just to get coffee with a friend
at the beach, sees this going on, and let's roll
the footage that has caught the world's attention.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
Yeah, you can see he's wrestle the gun out, points
the gun at the guy.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
He starts to run away.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
I mean, who knows how many lives that he saved
as a result of this. But I mean, oh my god,
I mean, can you imagine the presence of mind and
just the sheer like reactive heroism to do something about
this in the moment, actively approaching a gunman like this,
putting your life completely there at risk and immediately disarming

(17:48):
this person. I know, there's a verified GoFundMe for acmenal
Achmed which is going out there definitely.

Speaker 5 (17:53):
Over three million.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah, I mean, let's go, let's keep it going.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
Honestly, I mean, this is he put his life on
the line for these people. And so look, you know,
and you can choose to see people always say that
you could.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
You could see the you.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Know, absolute like distress of the world and the best
of the world all in the same in the same incident.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
So what we're learning about him so far is that
in two thousand and six he moved from Syria. Apparently
he was from Idlab, moved to Syria, moved from Syria
to Australia. He was a police officer. It seems like
back in back in Syria, his his cousin was interviewed
outside of the hospital. There have been interviews since then

(18:34):
with his with his parents extremely obviously, you.

Speaker 5 (18:38):
Know, proud of what he did.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
Briefly, there was an attempt to like argue over his religion.
You had kind of the Laura Lumours of the world. Actually,
in concluding Benjamin net Yahoo, what well, so Laura Lumer
said this, and lots of other people in the right
were saying, this is a Maronite Christian or this is

(19:01):
some a copy Christian.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
Like why do we need to debate this guy's religion.
Here's what's crazy middle of him, right, what are you doing?
Like he's a hero, It doesnt no matter how where
he works or whatever.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
Immediately, an entire AI backstory around a guy named something Crabtree,
like a made up name.

Speaker 5 (19:21):
So people say, oh.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
His name was Eric Crabtree or whatever, and he's an
Australian native and there are articles circulating about who this
Crabtree guy is, with fake interviews with his parents and
his teachers and him and if and if you didn't
know any better, and millions of people did not know
any better.

Speaker 5 (19:41):
They were circulating.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
They even got a community note at one point on
the video saying like this, actually this was this guy Crabtree,
which is completely fictionalized made up person. It also shows
the lack of kind of literacy when it comes to
the world like Achmeta is one of the names of
the prophet Uh It's in the Kuran, like like Christian.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Two instances combined with Brown in this it's like this
is a sickness. Yes, I'm not going to be called
Barry Weiss and call for censorship or anything, but I
mean I will call for Look, I.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Mean, let's blame some of the people. Sharp enough people
you're out there.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
Guys were also circulated a claim that the shooter said
a Loha walk bar and was a Muslim at Brown University.
So you know, it's like every incident doesn't have to
be grissed for your own little grievance project.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
Let's let's can we return just to mister Ackman just
to like who he is and who cares about his religion?
Auchman All Achman, by the way, was actually wounded and
it underwent surgery as of yesterday.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
So he's in the hospital.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
And what makes he was seriously injured according to us
according to Australian authorities.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
And it's it's obvious, but let's let's state it for
his for his benefit. One of the things that makes
there are multiple things that make it's such an extraordinary
active here was and besides the obvious one is.

Speaker 5 (21:02):
That there's two shooters.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
You know, it's not as if I would have the
courage to disarm one shooter. But if you disarm one shooter,
you're good. Like you've got, you've got. The gun incident
is over. He knew when he did this that there
was another shooter on the bridge who is targeting people
all over the area. So he knows that not only

(21:26):
does he have to worry about the guy he's tackling
who's armed, but then he also has to worry about
getting shot by the other Which is what which is
what ended up happening, Like the thing that he knew
was a likely possibility happened. Like he very easily could
have been killed. It seems like his injuries are not
life threatening, but he was shot. It seems like he
was shot right in the shoulder here. No, that's interest

(21:48):
from ending your life.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Oh, he easily could have died. I mean not easily.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
I mean, look, I mean it's a miracle that he's
alive in this instance. Just I cannot imagine the psycho
with a g of anybody out there trying to, you know,
debate somebody's religion or any of that. That's the last
thing that all of us need to worry about, especially
in a moment like this.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
You've got its targeted shooting.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
I mean, that's sick, that's sick, you know, targeting women,
children at Hanuka gathering on Bondai Beach. And then yeah,
why can't it just be a horrific terrorist attack. We'll
deal with that on its own terms. Okay, it says
whatever it needs to be said in terms of international politics, debates,
gun control, et cetera. But yeah, just to go after
the shooter is disgusting. Let's just get to the Australian

(22:36):
Police and laying out some of the details what we
know about these gunmen and the firearms that were involved.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Let's take a listen to that.

Speaker 10 (22:43):
They were two offenders involved in yesterday's incident.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
One is deceased, the second is in.

Speaker 7 (22:49):
Critical but stibal conditioning in the hospital at the moment.

Speaker 10 (22:53):
The offenders are fifty year old and twenty four year
old Mile who our father ends up. A fifty year
old is deceased, twenty four year old is currently in
hospital at the moment. As part of the investigation, we
conducted two search warrants last night on a rig and
a second at Campsy. The fifty year old Mail is

(23:15):
a licensed firearms holder. He has six firearms licensed to him.
We are satisfied that we have six firearms from the
scene yesterday, but also as a result of the search
run at the Campsy address, ballistics and forensic investigation will
determine this morning that those six firearms are the six

(23:35):
that were licensed to that man, but also that they
were used in the offense yesterday at.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Day So that's what we know now so far.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Australia has already announced the Prime Minister that they're going
to try and to taken their niches and gun laws
they already had. Some of the strictest gun laws are
already in the world after this ended up happening, So
we'll see where that goes. But there's an Israel angle,
and I wish we didn't even have to cover this
this Lucky to your point about debating people's religion or whatever.

(24:06):
For a hero in the midst of an attack like this,
nets On Yaho doing the most nets on Yahoo thing
ever and trying to insert himself and his war in
Gaza somehow into this attack.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
Yeah, a few months ago at drop site, we did
a story where I obtained a set of surveys and
research group findings that had been paid for by the
Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs, where they did a bunch
of polling and they did a bunch of focus groups,
and they were trying to figure out what can we

(24:40):
do to restore our image here around the world in
the wake of this genocide, and the entire thing was
leaked to me, and basically their conclusion was, we need
to ramp up Islamophobia around the world because when we
pull ourselves just straight across the board, we're not doing

(25:00):
very well at all. But if we pull ourselves against Iran,
or if we pull ourselves against Hamas, or we pull
ourselves against quote unquote Islamic terrorism, then people prefer us
to that. So what we need to do is put
all of the attention on that. And so that's the
context for a lot of what you're seeing of the
messaging from Israel around the world.

Speaker 5 (25:22):
So you put up this next element.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
So net Yahoo immediately came out and attacked the government
of Australia. So here's Netanyahu telling the Government of Australia
that it is their recognition of a state of Palestine
that actually caused this.

Speaker 11 (25:42):
On August seventeenth, about four months ago, I sent Prime
Minister Albanese of Australia a letter in which I gave
him warning that the Australian government's policy was promoting and

(26:02):
encouraging anti Semitism in Australia. I wrote, your call for
a Palestinian state pures full fuel on the antisemitic fire.
It rewards Camasterism, it emboldens those who menace Australian Jews,
and encourages the jew hatred now stalking your streets.

Speaker 4 (26:22):
We had an interesting counter protest that was picked up
by Australian TV, and we can add this in post.
A woman, a Jewish woman, came to the gathering because
apparently now there are a lot of Israeli flags flying
down there. She wore a kafaya and said, the reason
I'm doing this is to protest the politicization of this killing.

(26:44):
She's like, members of my community were killed. Actually we
can roll that here.

Speaker 12 (26:48):
I came here today because I'm a Jewish, my family
just in the Holocaust, I have community members.

Speaker 13 (27:04):
They know Israeli because this community has politicized strategy way upstanding.

Speaker 4 (27:29):
It is a political act by let's let's assume that
they did pledge allegiance to ISIS, so it is necessarily
going to be.

Speaker 5 (27:38):
Politicized.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
But you know, Yahu jumping in and trying to make
this about support of a Palestinian state. ISIS and the
Palestinian resistance have nothing to do with each other whatsoever,
Like they are hostile to each other. In fact, this
you know, what's his name, Yash, the guy that writes
for the Wall Street Journal and was killed recently, who

(28:03):
was kind of running the rebel group. He had closer
ISIS links, you know, he was aligned with the Israelis.
They were trying to prop him up as this like
alternative to UMAs he had closer links with ISIS than
than a mast doess is hostile to them.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
So ISIS has hated Jews since its founding, right, so
you know, to say that it's just about Palestar seems
kind of ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
But they've also never attacked Israel, right, yeah, so exactly right.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
So this and this would be maybe their first attack
on even a Jewish gathering.

Speaker 5 (28:35):
Usually they attack on the West, Christian gatherings or.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Fellow or most Yes, look, we don't know. Still a
lot of stuff that's going to come out, you know,
about this entire thing. Also, anybody who you know murders
dozens of women children at a religious gathering is a psychopath.
He doesn't usually have a coherent political ideology either, right, So.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Kind of dada is this?

Speaker 11 (28:57):
Jesus?

Speaker 3 (28:58):
Yeah, i' I mean, look, well yeah, yeah, well, you know,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Do they have the death penalty in Australia.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
I hope so, okay, I hope to see it, but
at least me just me, all right, I don't know.
I just think at the very least what we can
say is to praise the heroism of auchmedal Akmed and
just to think.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
About some of these.

Speaker 5 (29:17):
We'll put the goufund me in here.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Yeah, we'll put the guf on me down there.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
But you know, also, look, fifteen people, women children massacred
at a religious gathering, no matter what kind of religious gathering,
who cares? Right, sick, it's completely sick. And then, you know,
sticking on this theme, geez, you know, for everybody listening,
I'm sorry, you know, it's been a depressing hour. But
we just got the last thing that we have to

(29:41):
put in here. Rob Reiner, the Hollywood legend icon, was
killed with his wife in his house. Let's go and
put that on the screen. Guys, MB one, please Rob Reiner.
This is news broke late last night. This is from People.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
They better be right.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
I'll just I'll caveat it in terms of it's a
report and he's not yet been charged, but People magazine
claiming that Rob Reiner's son is implicated here in the
attack on his parents again allegedly, and that is according
to this report by People, and the son has not
yet released any comment.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
The circumstances are shocking. You have here.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
On Sunday, December fourteenth, at three thirty pm Eastern time
or three thirty pm Local time, Hala Fire Department was
called to a home to provide medical aid.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
The LAFD.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Upon arrival, they found a man seventy eight and a
woman sixty eight dead. Sources conformed the victim of Rob
and Michelle Reiner. Police say Nick thirty two is alive
and is being questioned. No arrest has yet been made. Reiner, obviously,
I mean, he's one of the most famous actors one
of the last forty to fifty years. Also just an
incredible director. Look, you know, Rob and I disagreed on politics.

(30:53):
Who cares happens to just be like literally an icon.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
I don't know all this dad, So it's hard to
think of anybody. It's hard to think of anybody who's
contributed more to cinema in Hollywood than over the last
forty years.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
He's up there, He's up there.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
Like just an just an absolute icon. You know, Princess Bride,
when Harry met Sally, stand by me, I was going
through on on and on and on. Plus the rare
director who can also.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Act and he produced to produced some incredible films.

Speaker 5 (31:33):
AND's got to start and all with all in the family.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
Just an absolute legend when it comes to you know
what he has contributed to our culture. The Princess Bride,
absolute classic when when Harry met Sally, Yeah, misery like
to be able to like his range. His range is
just absolutely like uncontested, like nobody has final tap.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
Just if you haven't seen.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
That, Like a lot of people might be a little
bit young for some of his stuff in the eighties
and nineties, that stuff holds up.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
Oh it's good and.

Speaker 5 (32:14):
The house path breaking. I don't want to tell you.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
I didn't even go with the American President bucket List.
I actually love the bucket list. I think it's a
good people people didn't like it.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
I liked it. Yeah, Spinal Tap two I was supposed
to come.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
But an incredible actor is even as an actor, yeah,
I mean he man. His most recent his most recent
big blockbuster role was probably Wolf of Wall Street.

Speaker 14 (32:36):
He was so good in that. Yeah, just you know,
what is this world coming to? But yeah, Rock and
Nick Reiner. Yes, So people are saying their sources have
it on lock.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
That that I mean this, look, but he hasn't. They
better be right.

Speaker 5 (32:51):
They're going to get.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
To they're speaking with him, That's what they say. He said.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
He's being questioned as a lot of a lot of
children of Hollywood. He's been in and out of rehab
and you know, he was homeless at one point, you
know face, you know, facing real addiction and would imagine
mental health issues that are associated with that. How that,
how that leads to this outcome is very difficult to

(33:17):
conceive of.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
But here we are, and tragically, his daughter apparently is
the person she found her parents and had to identify
the bodies.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
So just yeah, it's great, all right, p Rob, thanks
for everything you gave us. All right, let's move on.
We're going to turn down to Epstein.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
There were some shocking images released here by the House
Oversight Committee. These are not yet seen, and these are
much more recent than many of the stuff that let's say,
Ryan and I have been going through some of these emails.
Many of these are just even months before Epstein was died.
That way, let's go and put the B one please
up here on the screen.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
This is a Trump Condom.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Photo which apparently was at the APPS. I've seen residents
at Trump Condom four fifty. I'm huge. Apparently, let's go
to B two. This just showed. Really it's a lot
of the photos were the extent of his relationship there
with Steve Bannon. So you've got this mirror selfie pick
there with Steve Bannon. I guess Epstein trying to get
a fit off there with Bannon's signature two shirts. I'm

(34:19):
not sure yet if the two shirts are in that
particular one, but Bannon sporting.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
His normal look. B three please, let's go to put
that one.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
This is crazy, So it's not just the photo of
Bannon with Epstein. In Epstein's you know, palatial mansion is
there's this framed photograph of I mean, to me, what
looks like some passed out girl. There is that a bathroom?
I mean, no one can really tell what it is,
but you can see that there's a passed out young
female in this photograph. I mean, this fits with everything

(34:50):
that we know about Epstein. He just had this disgusting fetish.
I mean, god, even calling it fetish, it's not really fair,
Like it's just disgusting proclivities on display for everyone to see.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
His overt sexualization. It was almost cartoonish.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
You could see that in the emails, you know, when
you were You're like, who talks like this? I mean
we saw it in the birthday book as well. Right,
every other joke joke about, you know, kidnapping and sexually
assaulting someone is it's every other page. These are grown
men in their fifties and sixties.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
He didn't want to leave anybody any room for deny it. Billity, Yeah,
exactly what gross he was.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Yet they all deny it. They're like, I had no idea.
It's like, yes you did. I never opened my eyes
when I was around him.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
I mean going through his Amazon orders, like because the email,
it's it's like the amount of sexual paraphernalia. Again, it's
mind boggling to see it, just to see like it
was open.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yeah, like you said, normal.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
People don't have condom bowls andres have passed out women
on their desk and just like the craziest number of
again like weird fetish sex shit everywhere, all across their house.
Like if you interacted this person for five minutes, you
knew exactly what was going Emails to these.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
You'll get You'll get a decent number of people in
the in the elite world who will say I met him,
I was completely disgusted and I never saw him again.
And you can see why that would be true, Like
he was not hiding it. So that's why when I
when I hear that from some people, and there's no
you don't find evidence in the emails of the travelogs

(36:42):
or something that actually they went to the island and
they like deepened their relationship.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
But yeah, this is why the claims from Larry Summers
and Bill Gates and all these people and yeah you did.

Speaker 4 (36:53):
And Bill Gates's wife, for instance, was like the guy
was gross, and I told Bill stop.

Speaker 5 (36:57):
Hanging out with him.

Speaker 4 (36:59):
And from a Linda's perspective, it's like, yeah, he was gross,
Like he was not hiding it, so.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Literally not hiding it.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
Let's let's continue, by the way, be four it. Let's
put that up there on the screen. Oh, who's that
Ade Barack, former Prime Minister of Israel.

Speaker 5 (37:13):
So he barely knew him.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Interesting, Yeah, barely knew the guy in his inbox here,
the former prime Minister of Israel.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
There multimillion dollar deals there with Epstein soliciting you know,
venture capital dollars into almost certainly intelligence connected as really startups.
Well absolutely, you know, millions of dollars being paid by
the Westerner Foundation, which the Western Foundation claimed he didn't
have any direction of which drops that reported that he
actually was deeply directing all the Wexner Foundation. I mean,

(37:41):
we could just go on forever here, and that's just again,
by the way, I mean, you know, let's not even
just move past the fact that Benjamin and Yahoo tweeted
out a jack of an article basically confirming or at
least from his side, that he wasn't. But it Israeli
acid of the other Israel he's not not him right?

Speaker 1 (37:58):
Not okay? Got it.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
Uh, let's go to the next one, Bill Gates, Prince Andrew.
Two gents who say they didn't really even know anything
about what was going on a print facilitated meetings.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
Since Prince Andrew's well known nickname was and is Randy Andy.
So again like not subtle, not hiding what they're doing.
So there's Bill and Randy Andy. Okay, and he's just
he's not Prince Randy Andy anymore. Yeah, he's not just Randy.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
Sorry, I forgot I apologize to the British people for
using the name Prince. He is very Andrew Andrew mount
Batton or no Andrew Windsor. I apologize Andrew Windsor and
Bill Gates private citizens too in their own right. Next one,
Richard Branson, Oh, Richard, how could you?

Speaker 1 (38:41):
How could you? Richard?

Speaker 4 (38:42):
If we're going to remotely defend Richard Branson, what is
it he owns the neighboring island. It's this famous island
where he's had like you know, Obama and like all
the wars luminaries, and you know there's you get lonely
and bore out there on your your island, paradise.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
So you go and hang out with super rich neighbors.

Speaker 5 (39:04):
Hang out with your super rich neighbors.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Do you google them beforehand? No? Maybe no, you don't
want to do that.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
You might, You might want to right now, what what
could possibly come?

Speaker 3 (39:12):
You may google your neighbor, Especially when your neighbor you
probably have to take a helicopter or a private jet.

Speaker 5 (39:18):
So if we're going to defend and we have to
say whose island is this on.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Okay, it's bad either way. I visit his island, that's bad.
If him to your that's even worse.

Speaker 5 (39:26):
Maybe he just washed up.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
Come on, man, he just showed up on his little boat.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
No, no, no, And he's.

Speaker 5 (39:31):
Like, Richard, what are you doing.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Even then you're like, isn't that like creep neighbor?

Speaker 5 (39:35):
Go away, get out of here, go away.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Yeah, he's not.

Speaker 4 (39:38):
Look I tried, Branson. Sorry, I got nothing for you.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
I'm sorry, all right?

Speaker 13 (39:42):
Said.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
He even owns his airline for the Hollywood heads. This
is a good one.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Here's Woody Allen having dinner with Jeffrey Epstein on the left.
On the right, here's what everybody wants to know. What
movie is this? So we've got Epstein on set with
Woody Allen. We you don't know yet which movie, which
movie that this came from. There's some speculation out there
about the exact Woody Allen film.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
But yeah, there's a tow them in fact.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
You know, when I was going through the emails Ryan
with you, wasn't it crazy the number of Hollywood invites
that were in there? Yeah, you know they're like, hey,
Michael Clayton, George Clooney, respects the pleasure of your company
or whatever.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
He got the email. I remember the one email.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
It was like to David Chase's privates, not David Chase,
but HBO is like private screening of the Sopranos family,
like a real screening, like before that it was even
gonna air. So I mean, he was deep, deep into this.
Go to the next one, please just continue there. Oh
who's that? Oh? Oh, Larry and his wife?

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Got it? Got it?

Speaker 3 (40:43):
There's Larry, there's his wife. And what did we learn?
This is on the jet by the way there with
Jeffrey Epstein. What did we learn there about his wife
and Lil Witta? Yeah, and Woody, but what do we
remember that his Larry Summers wife recommended Lolita to episode.

Speaker 5 (41:00):
That's right, yeah, and got him like an annotated coming.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Well, no, he bought himself. He bought that copy. Yeah,
because two wasn't enough. He needed the original version. You
need a first edition.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
Like what about his collection makes you think he hasn't
already read that ten times?

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Yeah. By the way, I've learned a little bit, so
I've not read Lolita.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
Apparently my wife rit I talked to her about it
and she was like, you know what's funny is if
you read it like the guy is the villain.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
Yeah, but yeah, but it's like the whole.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
Book is like this villainous justification of pursuing this twelve.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
Year old I have read it is it is not subtle?

Speaker 3 (41:31):
Yeah, right, the book for any normal functioning brain is like,
what a disgusting human being rationalizing this behavior? Yes, And
apparently for him, he was like, oh, this is what
a hero?

Speaker 4 (41:42):
Yes right, Okay, No, it's quite quite obvious to anybody
reading it.

Speaker 11 (41:47):
There.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
And then here's the thing, b nine, I alluded to it,
but you had your content warnings and all that. So
if you're watching this children, you know, I mean it's
not subtle here, okay, like an insane amount an insane
amount out of just like weird sex shit, and is
how jawbreaker gag massage? Come on, all right, I'm not
eve gonna say it like you know, all right, how

(42:08):
it must be for plumbing, right, yeah, definitely for plumbing.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
So yeah, that's what.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
We know from the Epstein photos that have been released.
There by the way, the House Overside Committee actually saying
they do have videos and photos of people, quote engaged
in sexual acts.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
Let's take a listen.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
Do you have pictures of people engaged in sexual acts as.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
Part of this.

Speaker 12 (42:31):
As part of this release, Yes, there are pictures of
people engage in sexual acts. Are there pictures of men
not Jeffrey Epstein engaged in such acts?

Speaker 1 (42:40):
We're going through that again.

Speaker 6 (42:43):
You know.

Speaker 12 (42:43):
The last time there was a big production, what we
tried to do was release all the files. Eventually, we're
trying to be selective about what we released now, and
so in this case, we're not really quite sure yet
who is who. Certainly there's a lot of people involved
on some.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Of these acts.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
And see what's interesting about that answer, though, is he
doesn't say yes, yeah, And so one of the claims
from kind of the world of people that are saying
that this is not a giant ring, that it's just
a giant predator.

Speaker 5 (43:15):
Is that all of the footage is either.

Speaker 4 (43:19):
Like porn that Epstein was consuming or it's Epstein himself
engaged in sexual acts. And he doesn't say otherwise there,
which you may not have it right, right, Yeah, who knows?

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Right? That's actually when I want to flag. Let's go
to B twelve.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
Shout out to Jason Leopold, the FOYA terrorist self described terrorists.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
Here's what he says from a new Foya FOYA files.
DOJ and FBI had made revelatory disclosures about the docks
that withheld related to their review and redaction. Intriguingly, the
FBI said it searched quote client lists to locate records.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Remember this, this is.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
After the FBI director Cash Betel claimed there is no
client list, client list doesn't exist. FBI director said that
the DOJ Attorney General also said that under sworn testimony,
keep that in mind, and they said in search of
client lists. This actually would be shocking to me that
a client list exists, because I've always thought that that's
kind of like boom or slop. If I'm being quite

(44:17):
honest is I'm like, I don't think client lists exists.
Especially I've read eighteen thousand the Man's emails, So if
you ryan, it doesn't work, like, Hi, you're coming to
my house so I can blackmail you on tape Like
that's not Everything is couched in like innuendo in respectability
and uh oh it's come to the island, and then
a weird offhand comment really you right, But it's not

(44:39):
overt in the way that it's also like a circle
of accepted behavior. It's probably akin to any vast like
criminal enterprise or anything else going on where nobody says
this stuff out loud explicitly. Look, I'm calling you to
distribute twelve kilos of cocaine.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
That's not how it works.

Speaker 4 (44:56):
And in the emails, there are multiple instances where he
is clear that he understands that email is not a
secure means of communication. So what we're getting in the
email is what he thinks he can say and get
away with, because oftentimes he sometimes you'll see encrypted stuff,
but other times he'll say not for email, discuss in

(45:19):
person when stuff is getting too sensitive. Yeah, what they
call switching to guns too close, too close for missiles,
switching to guns, and so that also goes to the
point of like, it would be unlikely that he would
have a list that's just in one place.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
It's so neat. But I don't know.

Speaker 5 (45:42):
So we'll see what they mean by this client list.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
Yeah, I mean, listen. I would love to see it
if it actually exists.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
Maybe somebody FBI document compiled a so called client list, right,
and then that's their investigatory version.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
That's kind of why you need to release all this.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
Final word here to Congressman Thomas Massey saying that it's
a criminal violation not to release the Epstein files for
the Epstein Files Release Transparency Act, here's what you have
to say.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
They cite the Epstein Files Transparency Act.

Speaker 9 (46:05):
So you've got three grand juries that are going to
release all their materials redacted with the victims' names to
the DOJ. So it's a good sign that the DJ
went back and asked for this that grand jury material.
If DJ doesn't release the files it has by next Friday.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
Is there anything Congress can do to compel that to happen. Well,
I mean, it's a crime if they don't.

Speaker 9 (46:29):
It's not like they're in contempt of Congress because they
didn't respond to subpoena. This is a new law with
criminal implications if they don't follow it.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
Criminal implications if they don't follow it. So thank you
to Congressman Massi's staying on the case and the release
of the photos. Just this is also part of the
problem rhyme that you and I have found is that
people just like the shooting, every everybody tries to distill
things immediately in terms of partisan ship, and the whole
point is that it implicated everybody. Bill Clinton, by the way,

(47:00):
was also you know, named in the photos, so we
know that that's been known, yes by in fact, maybe
we'll cover this tomorrow. The Clintons are fighting like hell
right now to not testify about Epstein.

Speaker 5 (47:11):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
They're going to war with Congress trying to make sure
that they don't have to come forward.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
Guess what, let them come.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
Let's go Hillary, let's go Bill, right, anybody, if you're
in it, you got to talk.

Speaker 4 (47:21):
Bannon went to prison for not testifying, that's right, locker up.
I mean, they need to be the funniest way.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
But she's just testify. Yeah, she can do her shtick.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
What does it matter. She's got that line right, What
does it matter? What does it matter? B fourteen, Speaking
of partisanship, Trump not getting great, great marks from the
American people. Twenty three percent of people approve of his
handling of the Epstein.

Speaker 5 (47:50):
Scandal so far.

Speaker 4 (47:52):
Meanwhile, I just just tacking this on at the end
here this is a post from my own kind of TikTok.
I noticed that one of the posts that I put
up on TikTok about the Epstein reporting that Martaza and
I have been doing over it at drop site was
flag that said you can't this can't be shown in
the for you page.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
So I clicked on it and you can and you can.

Speaker 4 (48:14):
Read there why I clicked appeal and the appeal was
comically rejected in like seven seconds. So it's like it's
like that scene in the office where Michael Scott's like,
can you crunch the numbers again?

Speaker 5 (48:26):
And the guy.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Just numbers it's the same numbers.

Speaker 4 (48:30):
So they write reason for ineligibility in a global misinformation
In a global community, it is natural for people to
have different opinions, but we seek to operate on a
shared set of facts and reality. Content is ineligible for
the for you feed and harder to find in search
if it contains general conspiracy theories or unverified information related

(48:52):
to emergencies. Content sent for fact checking may also be
temporarily ineligible for the for You feed while it is
undergoing review. Do you understand why this video is not eligible?

Speaker 5 (49:02):
And I clicked no?

Speaker 1 (49:03):
No, yeah, I also do not understand.

Speaker 4 (49:06):
So I included in the story like links to all
of our reporting which is sourced to you know, publicly
available emails and documents, but somehow that did not survive
the appeal.

Speaker 5 (49:19):
So what are we going to do
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