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Gavin Newsom has been going wild on Twitter and there's
this weird maybe you could explain it a little more
to be sager, but there's this weird horseshoe where actually,
like a bunch of the white nationalists Kroupers have negatively
polarized themselves against Trump to.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Not just Trump, with JD specifically jdbat writing they do
hate and wife.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
That's correct.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
That's a huge part, yes, correct, not a huge part,
that's the entire part.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
And so they've negatively polarize themselves into being pro Gavin,
and so in any case, there are all sorts of
let's go ahead and put C two. Let's go ahead
and roll through some of these means, and then we
can play the Fox News reaction.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
There's all sorts of stuff going on.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Gavin Newsom reply to this picture of this video of
Scott Presler and say thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Nancy Mace.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Tommy laren is then upset by this, says new Lows
unlocked by Gavin Newsom, You're kidding me.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Your state and.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Your bullshit governor rant and rave on a daily basis
about protecting gay people. You're really going to use your
official press office account to troll a gay conservant call
him a woman. And then the Newsom Press office replies,
you sound woke. We can put the next one up
on the screen, just to get a flavor of a
bunch of these.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
This is.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I don't know, this might be a Nancika. I have
no idea who this person is. But in any case,
they say, which way America, And they've got Gavin looking
very handsome and fit in high school with his baseball bat.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
And Jade Vance with wagon.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
At a similar age, and apparently eyeliner as well. Let's
put the next one up on the screen. You've got
this isn't a legit Nazi account, This one that posted
Gavin Newsom versus j D vance in high school. And
then Gavin retweets this legit Nazi account and says, I
missed that scarf. Let's put the next one up on
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the screen. See what else we got here?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
This one he posted, go Gadham j D. This was
actually a video of.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
JD looking like not too athletic, running to rescue his kid.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
He's doing the Disneyland.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Disneyland yeahah, the true parent run of run don't walk,
but know that you're on camera.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I'll defend him on that one.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
The only reason that I think any of this is
interesting is that Gavin is basically just going trump like.
He's going all like Trumpy in terms of his posting
with the memes and all events all caps.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
While what an honor on Mount Rushmore? Thank you?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
And it's like an AI image of Gavin Newsom Rushmore.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Quite no yet go into the next one.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
This is lives of TikTok, who had posted I remember
she posted something mean about him, and then he said
great job Chaia and has the picture of her with
her Binder so excited on Epstein Files Phase one day.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yeah, my take from Gavin is that he is very
clearly trying to he basically is very clearly trying to
become the Democratic Trump, where it's all just about one thing.
He fights, he pisss off the Republicans, and it's been
somewhat effective, I think right now, because okay, it's somewhat
(03:27):
effective in a couple of ways. Number one is it's
turning conservatives now into concern trolling snowflakes like Tommy Laren
being like that's so mean going out. It's like, fuck
the fuck off, all right, Like, you know, come on,
this is we are, we are. It's twenty twenty five.
We're all ripping on each other all day long. The
Libs are doing it now, so be if anything is
good dark no more, yeah, no more pearl clutching, I
(03:48):
think is great. You know, it's like, oh, we really
care Scott Presler's feelings are going to get hurt, Like,
get out of here. It's not does she have feelings?
I don't even know if she's human.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Oh she's got feelings, she's got big emotion.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I don't know. It all seems very fake to me say,
she seems like a classic actor. That's all I say.
But in terms of Gavin, I think what is interesting
more to me is what they're big discussion yesterday about
this polarization over what are the issues and what are
the things that will define being a Democratic nominee in
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twenty twenty eight, and already some of the initial polling
is showing up for Gavin. Let's go and put this
up there on the screen. This was Echelon Insights. It
was actually just conducted just yesterday, and it's a twenty
twenty eight Democratic primary poll. Kamala Harris came in at
twenty six percent. I'm not sure that would be a
good idea, but whatever. But number two is Newsom, and
number three buddhaj Edge, then AOC Booker, Crockett, Pritzker, Witmer, Shapiro, etcetera.
(04:46):
All of them are in the two or the three
percent range. The reason why I think that's important, though,
is that Newsom is not only number two, assuming that
Kamala does not run again. And what it means is
that he's capturing at the very least not only with
name recognition, but primary like the primary character syndrome of
who the Democrat, like who's actually leading the fight or
whatever against Trump? And that's really just very Trumpian And
(05:09):
it's exactly what I heard from a lot of Republicans
back in twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen. Even a lot
of people need to remember, it was not socially acceptable
in Washington even for Republicans to support Trump, like very
openly in twenty fifteen or intoor twenty sixteen. The defenders
would always say the same thing, Yeah, again it it's distasteful,
or oh, you know, at that time, it was scandalous
(05:31):
that Trump wanted free healthcare or whatever, was questioning a
trade policy or anything. They're like, but he fights, you know.
And it was one of those where you could connect
that with the Trump base voters. And those were some
of the first reported Right when I started out, I
started talking to people, I was like, Hey, what are
these Trump rallies? Like I'm talking about the original ones
like Iowa and New Hampshire. They were like, man, I've
(05:52):
never seen anything like it. People who came completely out
of the woodwork, and they just love how he tells
it like it is. That's what we heard over and
over again, like it had nothing to really do with policy.
I mean, there are policy implications to that, But my
point about Gavin is I think that he's connecting very solidly,
like with where that No King's energy is for a
lot of these people, and with Gavin and his about
(06:15):
face from the initial days of the Trump administration, post
vibe shift has been one where he's taken all of
the most like performative fighting actions like the lawsuits, the
you know, the LA riots or whatever, like you know,
mobilizing the lawsuits against the National Guard, and then the
Twitter piece. The only reason I think it's important is
really to invite conversation by a lot of the Republican
(06:37):
elites to negatively polarize them against him. Yeah, that's very
helpful because one of the things people loved most about Trump,
even if they didn't like him, they loved how much
he pissed off the media. So the more that the
Tommy Larrence and Fox News is are mad at Gavin,
the more happy that these Democrats are going to be.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, they love that Trump owned the Libs and like
track the Libs, and now if Gavin's able to trigger
the conservatives, the base is going to.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Eat that up.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
It's shocking that more of these idiotic democratic politicians haven't
realized that that is the case. And actually, I mean
it took Gavin a while to get it. He was there,
you know, launched his podcast, having on Charlie Kirk to
like just hang out and have this like chummy conversation
with him, Steve Bannon and others, and then he got
when Trump sent in the National Guard. I feel like
(07:24):
that's when it really turned because Gavin started fighting and
being vocal and visible and got a positive response, and
it's like, oh, this is the thing that people want
me to do. So to your point about triggering the Trumpers,
I guess we'll say triggering the trumpers. Fox Knew's doing
some just delicious pearl clutching over some comments that Gavin
(07:47):
Newsom made that I don't even know if he intended
as being like, you know, an intentional dig at Governor
Greg Abbott's the fact that he's disabled, that he's in
a wheelchair. I don't even know if he intended that,
But anyway, Fox News was in high dudgeon about these comments,
and you'll see their response to Gavin Newsom's reply, Let's
go ahead. This is see one, guys, go ahead and play.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
This Congressman Greg Abbott, who is in a wheelchair, and
Newsom says he rolled over for Trump. That's almost as
bad as Jasmine Crockett calling him governor hot wheels. You know,
we asked for a statement, and Newsom's office said something
flippant like, you know, you're so woke. He'll get over it,
abboit'll get over it your response to it.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
So actually the reply from the newsom press office was,
you know, asked if for a statement. He said no,
But how woke of you to ask. I'm sorry Greg's
feelings were poor guy. We hope he recovers. So that
was their reply. So that's their like, you know, level
of trolling, and so they're loving seeing And there was
some other I don't remember if we pulled it or not.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Oh yeah we did. We pulled C three B, which.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Was another moment of Fox News being so offended, so
disgusted by the way that Gavin Newsom is comporting himself.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Now let's go ahead and play that.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Thing for me.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Is that for the last week Gavin Newsom? And why
am I giving him advice? You had to stop it
with the Twitter thing. I don't know where his wife
is if I.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Want his wife.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
I would say, you are making a fool of yourself.
Stop it, do not, do not let your staff tweet.
And if you're doing it yourself, put the phone away
and start over. And if you want. He's got a
big job as governor of California, but if he wants
an even bigger job, he has to be a little
bit more serious.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
And of course it's just spent a lot more less
time on his phone tweeting. That's never worked out.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Where have you heard that before? Where you heard that before?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I mean, that's what's so funny, is like, do you
not hear yourself? Do you not realize who the president is?
That you like, you know, glaze off.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Baby Trump. Oh, it's just so amazing how much direct
access we have to the AMIA.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Oh, he's so funny. It's such a great way of
communicating with people.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah. I will tell you the last forty eight hours,
I have wanted to blow my brains out because I
keep it watching all this Fox News because of the Summit.
I just want the live TV. I just want the
live television like access to this. So every once in
a while I will forget to mute Jesse Waters and
I'm like, I am gonna kill myself if I have
to keep everyone listening to this idiot.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Every time I watch cable news, I'm like, oh, that's
why people.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
You know, My wife, my wife who does not watch
any Breaking points whatsoever and thinks I'm cringe, is like, oh,
this is why you have a career. So even she
thinks I'm better than these people.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
You know, It's like it's one of those where it's maddening,
but it's exactly reasons like that. Where As you know,
there's some you know, octagenarian from watching Foxes, like, yeah,
it's such a good point about Gavin, but then at
the same time loves Trump and loves the Mika Brazinski
facelift tweet is their favorite ever, right.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Whether they'd admit it or not. Yeah, no, they secretly
enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah they know. You know, if you talk to these
people enough like it, it comes out very quickly about
what this is all about. Let's put C four up
on the screen. This is the polymar Get betting oddsn
Gavin's h he's quite up there, twenty three percent. He's
not that was taking yesterday. He's gone up too since then.
He's at twenty three as of right now, AOC is
at four. I would sell that. I don't know about you,
(11:12):
I would I would not buy that genuinely.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Don't think she's going.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
To Why wouldn't she come for Senate.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
I think she's gonna run.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
That'd be the must more reasons.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
That's my That is my guess at this point.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
And I think, which is part of why I think
she's like weirdly parsing on like the Israeli weapons and
all that sort of stuff. It makes more sense now.
I mean maybe like political logic escapes these people, certainly
basic morality does, but it makes more sense in the
context of trying to unseat Chuck Schumer in the state
of New York. Yeah, so that's my reading at this point.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
That's a total cell for me.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Oh yeah, Like if you watch those israel answers for
him and the cleanup and just how little Rizzi has
and how black people still don't want anything to do
with him.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Like, Also, isn't South Carolina still the first Like I
think it's still going to be.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah, it's early, so I forget about it and take
a look at it. Sorry, maybe it can be exact
Secretary again, wes you know.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I was trying to find this out. What title takes precedents?
Is it mayor or secretary? And nobody can actually give
me a good answer.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
For I don't know officially, but for me, he's just
like mayor is so baked into his.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I say mayor because it's elected, and in cabinet is
because you're elected so bia like by the people. Technically
in the mayor, so secretary is confirmed by the cabinet,
but I'd have to check the secretary.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Has got an extra syllable in it. Agree, we all
know him as mayor Pete. That's just that's what he is.
It doesn't really matter at this point. But I mean
what I will say, and I said this yesterday, but
just to reiterate, the thing that Gavin is benefiting from
right now too is that he doesn't really have to
answer any difficult questions on things that would be challenging
for him. So immigration will be one of those things.
(12:55):
But I think more critically right now is where he
stands on Israel and Gaza. The things that he has
said to date are not good, but he has never
put himself in a position where he is going to
be specifically pressed on that issue. And little behind the scenes.
We've been trying for quite a while now to get
an interview with mister Newsom.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
I have a new lead on that. By the way,
it's just happened.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Like, well, yeah, so in any case, we've he follows
me on Twitter.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I reached out to them that way. We reach out
through the press office.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
We got you know, specific No, he's not interested in
both instances, and he's been going out and doing lots
of Brian Tyler are like all kinds of online media,
but he doesn't want to come here.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
And it wouldn't surprise me if it's because he does.
I think it's he does.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I don't even because the first time we reached out
was pre Slotkin.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
But he's smart enough to.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Know that, Like if you just look at our channel,
obviously Israel Palestine is a focus of concern for us
and interest, and he's not going to get through an
interview without getting asked really specific questions that he has
no good answer for.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
But at some point he's going to have.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
To answer those questions, and it's going to cause him
to have to, you know, either divide with the donor
base that has been his key to power in California
for years and years, or he's going to divide with
where the grassroots of the not just the grassroots, the
entirety of the Democratic Party base is at this point.
(14:21):
So you know, there is some treacherous road ahead of him,
and there's also so we'll see. We'll see with him
how that goes, where he ends up. To me, that's
sort of the biggest trouble era area for him. But
there's no doubt the Democratic base is absolutely loving seeing
someone show some sort of life because it's been few
(14:44):
and far between in terms of politicians who have even
showed the slightest bit of you know, of aura of
ability to stand up to Trump, of understanding of new media,
et cetera. So it is for I think a lot
of Democrats it feels like man from having to have
this one dude was at least out there like posting
and making people kind of lose their minds about what
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he's saying.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
My only caution is, uh, people should remember the Brat
summer thing, which was fake at the end of the
day completely, you know, everyone was.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Like, oh the pull, she's one on the all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah. Aunt, he either was astroturfed or actually I don't
think that's fair because I think it was real and
organic in some way, but.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
That Biden was gone and there was something different.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
More what I mean is became very overrepresented in coverage
and probably skewed a lot of people in media who
took it seriously and thought it was real. So my
only caution is just that sometimes this online stuff can
be taken way too far, and then in retrospect, you know,
it's pretty obvious what it is, and there are signs
for selling. I mean, we've talked yesterday about his podcast.
(15:51):
It doesn't do very well, Like sometimes he has a
good guest, but sometimes it's a total bust.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I mean he's got he's got episodes up here that
are getting five k.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
If there was like this real, organic like interest in
Gavin Newsom, you would think that every one of them
would at least be hitting one hundred.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yeah, And there's some you know, look, I mean there
are tiktoks that have gone very viral, Like we have
a vo of one of them because it has Lana
del Rey in music. Put See five up on the
screen just to show people like what it looks like.
This is you know, some of the hype reels that
people are making. But as I said, the reason the
only reason this gives me pause is because I remember
all of the ones about Kamala, Right. Kamala was huge
(16:28):
on TikTok, Right. Yeah, so it was Tim Walls like
all of them, and you know, there were all these
moments and went viral with them amongst liberals, and then
they still not only lost the election, you lost the
popular vote. Right. I just feel like that's so important
to say. So I don't know how it will materialize,
but at the very least, maybe we can take it
seriously because it is still going to be representative. At
(16:49):
the end of the day, it's about the primary. We're
not yet talking about the general elections. Yeah, we're not
right right now in the realm of how the American
people feel, we're talking about the Democratic electorate, and for them,
they want to see somebody fight. And I think that
Gavin right now is the best a And.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Gavin has more of the goods than Kamala does. Like hen'
I mean, he gives me because he has this like
car salesman vibe. Kyle always gets mad when I say
that because he used to be a car staltsman, but
he has Armie politician like you can just smell the ambition.
You can see it oozing out of every single poor
and to me, I just that's major red flag in
(17:24):
every way to me. But you know, I have to
take myself out of this equation and say, like he
when he's in he can debate. He you know, has
he is a commanding presence. He's not afraid of being
in the spotlight. He's not afraid of getting blowback.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
And being in the mix.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
And you know, those are qualities that I think, if
if sort of leveraged in the right way, are certainly
very appealing to a Democratic base right now that again
is just so desperate for anyone who has anything to
say and is going to like have any sort of
a spine or a backbone at all.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I mean, as I've repeatedly said about Gavin, he believes nothing.
He will say anything correct. That is absolutely true. That
is what you need more than anything to be president.
You have to have the black hole in your soul,
and he has it. You can tell. There's no other
reason to be chasing the spotlight for your entire life.
To want to go on Sean Hannity's show. His biggest
(18:18):
smile is when he's engaged in fights with Ron De
Santis and with Hannity. That's what he actually lives to do,
is to like be in the spotlight, is to elevate
his profile, is to like be the number one man,
and so that type of ambition can only lead in
one direction. He reminds me a lot actually Bill Clinton,
like in terms of just that tick inside from the
(18:38):
very beginning of like have to have it, got to
have it. Yeah, Clinton was psychological.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Clinton was much more sort of naturally appealing, though he
didn't have that same.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Sure it didn't come across that way, although secretly he was.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
I mean, of course for student body, we came off
yea right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
But it's like graduates from law school and he's like,
I'm going to be governor. People are like, what who
are you know? I mean, to his credit, he did win,
so you know he can't count him out. Exactly the
same with Gavin. He's got the same appeal. Frankly, is
even more appealing than Clinton. Arkansas is like a forty
eighth month popular state in the country, is the most
popular states, a G seven economy in its own right.
He has a massive donor base that he can tap
(19:17):
at any moment, and they love him because he spends
a lot of time with them and he's cultivated him
now for a decade, the richest most powerful people in
the United States, probably the tech.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Industry, Silicon Valley in Hollywood, Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Put all that together combined with the like he fights energy,
So that's got democratic elites plus the Democratic base. You
marry those two. I think it's a it's a recipe
for being formidable.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Shitty establishment neoliberals that are you know, potential for the
twenty twenty field.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
He's the one I'm most worried about. For sure.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
You should be.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I mean, I'm not worried about Whitmer. I don't know
what she's doing. She's out there like playing Patty Case
with Trump.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Girl.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
You are so misreading the moment like all of these
other He's the one that I think has the most ants.
So I am concerned about him. I am officially concerned.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yeah, agreed.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
All right, let's go ahead and get to the ADL
head Jonathan green Platt, who went on CNBC to bash
and just outright brazenly lie about zoron Manzani, who of
course is the Democratic nominee for New York City mayor.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Let's go ahead and take a listen to this.
Speaker 7 (20:25):
We have a mayoral candidate.
Speaker 8 (20:26):
Well, that's where I want to go with this next. Sure,
So what do you make what do you make of
this mayoral candidate who, likely the right things are going,
is going to become the mayor of this city. Yeah,
and the fact that he was asked, as you know,
three times repeatedly, do you condemn the phrase globalize the Intefada?
And for whatever reason, almost inexplicably unless you believe he's
(20:48):
an anti Semite weight.
Speaker 7 (20:49):
Let's just make sure all the viewers know the to
Fado is a violent uprising in the palest Indian territories
where they murdered over a thousand people simply because they
were Jewish. Bus bombing, stabbing, shootings, et cetera. So that
being said, why won't he condemn globaliz intofada because he
believes it? I mean, I think we have to take
people at their word. Look, in the last.
Speaker 8 (21:10):
Months, make it even more complicated. We became jeffreys on
last week. Yeah, Okay, we talked about this, and we
talked about it in the context of those comments. What
Minority Leader Jeffreyes say, he almost could he he almost
couldn't condemn him either in that regard, because what's going
to happen is if he wins, people who even disagree
(21:32):
with him on times like this will think that they
have to agree with him.
Speaker 7 (21:35):
Look, whether you agree with President Trump or it would
be mayor mom, Donnie, we have to deal with elected
leaders as they are. But I think there are questions
we should ask right now, Like this candidate has visited
churches and mosques, not a single synagogue. This candidate has
gone to Harlem to meet the Black community, Washington Heights
to meet the Latino community, Chinatown to meet the Asian
(21:55):
American community, not once to a Jewish neighborhood.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
The last pool, I saw something like thirty two or
thirty three percent of Jewish Americans in New York were supporting.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
Fairly that fairly respectually, Becky, like, I don't believe the
polls because I know something about this candidate. He hasn't
been to any of the mainstream Jewish institutions He's it
would appear, I mean, I haven't heard from him. I
don't think the heads of most of the.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Major Jewish groups acratically, I mean harder get the polls.
How many voted for him in the Democratic primary.
Speaker 7 (22:24):
I mean relatively speaking, we know that the way that
the worked out was actually pretty low number.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Okay, First of all, why anyone takes this man seriously
at this point is an absolute and complete mystery to me.
Second of all, what brazen Nearly every word out of
his mouth is just a brazen lie.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
There.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
So he says, Oh, he hasn't been visited a single synagogue.
Put t two up on the screen. What do we
see here? Law and behold wonderful to be back at
this synagogue on the Upper West Side last night for
mayoral forum on the critical issues facing the Jewish community
in this election. And frankly, the fact he hasn't reached
out to Jonathan green Blatz, in my view, is a
major point in his favor. And that's really I think
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what green Blatt is mad about. If he hasn't gone
and you know, kissed the ring of Jonathan green Blatt,
then any other outreach that he's done to the Jewish community,
which Becky there points out, by the way, this guy
is doing better with Jews in New York city than
any other mayoral candidate. But if he hasn't kissed Jonathan
Greenblatz ring specifically, then it really doesn't count. We can
(23:29):
put D four up on the screen because they did
a good job of breaking down every single one of
the lies that in that short clip that green Blatz tells.
So they say, contrary to Greenblat's assertion, Mom Donnie attended
Shabbat services in Park Slope in February, visited the offices
of the UJA Federation for a town hall co hosted
with the Jewish Community Relations Council in May, participated in
(23:51):
two separate candidate forums at cong Congregation Ben I just
shrew run, Sorry guys, butcher that in Manhattan in June,
nonetheless the Democratic mayoral primary. He also made an effort
to reach out to the more than seven hundred thousand
Jewish voters in New York, including a visit to an
annual legislative breakfast in Flatbush, heavily orthodox neighborhood in Brooklyn
with a politically conservative electorate. He also Greenblatt claims that
(24:16):
Mom Donnie did not reach out to Hasidic voters in
their native Yiddish language, also a lie. He gave an
interview to a Yiddish language Hissitic newspaper that were photos
circulating on social media showing pro Mam Donnie Yiddish language
campaign posters on a poll in Burrough Park. He's relying
on a senior team of Jewish professionals for his campaign.
And this whole globalized the Intifada thing is such total
(24:37):
and complete bullshit. First of all, if you did say it,
I'd support it, But he never actually said it, and
he has shifted to even saying he would discourage its
use since he got so much scrutiny and pressure put
on him over all of this, So just utter and
complete lies out of this man's mouth and zero ability
to reckon with the fact that actually the the strongest
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candidate in the field, both in the primary and now
in the general election with Jewish voters is Zorn Mandani,
who yes, is an avowed anti Zionist, who is pro BDS,
who thinks that the.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
War criminal Benjamin Natnaw.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Who should be arrested if he ever came to New
York City. And guess what New York City made voters
agree with him?
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Not with you?
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, well said, And I think it's actually just very
interesting because it's a couple of different areas that we
can look at. The ADL has a lot of institutional power,
but it is increasingly losing a lot of its political power,
and I think that's what's very important, and just to
show everybody though that the institutional power they have. I
found this story recently. I wanted to break some of
(25:42):
it down. Can we put D three up on the screen?
There were, apparently, very recently a huge fight in the
teachers union in the NEA over rejecting ADL materials basically
propaganda materials to be used by teachers to teach quote
about anti semit So apparently what happened is that the
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members approved a proposal inside of the teachers' union to
sever all of their ties with the ADL over the
war in Gaza. But the executive committee overruled basically this
and rejected it, saying that they will continue to work
with them over quote anti Semitism or Holocaust education. So
(26:24):
as you can see there. But the reason why I
think this is very important is what they say for them,
is they're blaming union rules or any of that or whatever,
is that they still have a huge hold on a
lot of the nation's institutions, from Twitter to the US government,
working with the Trump administration, working with the Biden administration,
as we saw previously, they assembled a lot of the
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target lists or at least helped for some of these
deportations of these Israel critics who were students who again
literally were here legally did nothing else other than criticize Israel,
and now a lot of their materials because of this
legacy stuff they've done on the Holocaust, continues to kind
of do the work of pro Israeli propaganda. So it's
just one of those where, you know, the beast of
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the adl if you really want to like dismantle it.
It's not just it's it's important politically to actually have
candidates who outright reject them. But those candidates then need
to look at all of the other areas that they're influencing,
like censorship, misinformation. Oh yeah, and this that's why I
think it's really important.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
And this guy just booked across cable.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
I mean, you and I were talking when he was on.
I'm like, why is this man on CNBC? Like, actually,
this is a financial network, you know. When I put
CNBC on, I'm like, what's the stock of Nvidia. What's
jen sevn got to say? That's it Bloomberg or any
of these other places. This this channel is on every
office on all Wall Street all day long. They watch
it for financial news, not for any of this. Sometimes
(27:48):
they have politics on, like Charlie Kirk or whatever was
on the other day, but even that was about tariffs,
and that was about the economy. This in particular, it's like,
what is the purpose of this segment other than to
basically weaponize and you know, like mobilize like the Wall
Street New York City elites to try and continue their
failed like anti mom Donnie campaign. Now so far it's like, yeah, look,
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Ackman and at all have all tried. It's all come
up nothing because you have nothing. They have no plan
or ability to stop mom Donnie from getting elected. At
this point, he's going to be mayor.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Their fantasy is that everyone except Andrew Cuomo drops out
of the race, which is a fantasy.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
It's not happening.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
But even if it did, even in the polling when
it is a head to head, Zoron still wins because
Colmos sucks.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
People don't like him, right, He's terrible.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
He's out there humiliating himself the way he's posting on
a daily basis, like your plan has failed, so and
they do not want to grapple with reality. That's why
he's like, oh, I don't believe the polls. Actually, if
you'll recall, in the Democratic primary, the polls wildly understated
zoran support wildly because he completely was able to change
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the elector. He actually shifted the elector and brought out
so many more young people than were anticipated. So don't
be surprised if the polls are once again underestimating his support,
because it's very difficult to predict in these sorts of elections.
With a candidate who is so unique and who himself
is able to change who shows up to vote, it
makes it very difficult to do the polling and for
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it to ultimately be accurate.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
I wanted to get this in. It's a little bit. Uh.
It fits, but it doesn't totally fit.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
But I will say the Free Press is a sort
of ADL aligned institution, and it does fit with me.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
They're actually more militant.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
They are more milled, but it fits with the idea
that there is like for you know, the Israel bear
hug position. There has been almost complete loss of public
support outside of like Boomer Republicans, but there's still a
lot of elite support and elite pushing of this narrative
free press and their you know supposal. What was their valuation,
(29:55):
undred fifty million dollars something valuation I think.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Because it means where we're the hundred millions. Yeah, exactly,
support it because we're really rich.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Sim Dylan was like, what do I need to stay?
Speaker 2 (30:10):
It's fine to blow up toddlers, It's good anyway, Let's
put their latest journalism up on the screen here. I
am so thoroughly disgusted with this line of quote unquote reporting.
So the headline here is they became symbols for Gazen starvation,
(30:30):
but all twelve suffer from other health problems. And they
go through these twelve individuals, all of them Palestinian children
who are being starved and you know, and suffering through
all sorts of things true, not just starvation in Gaza,
that they are suffering through, as if to disprove the
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idea that there is there are famine conditions in Gaza,
which is insane because you can just look at the
staff yourself about the amount of food trucks that were
allowed in four months and months there was an almost
complete blockade. There has been some lifting of that, some
trucks are getting in. It has eased slightly, but nowhere
near what is needed. And so let me give you
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an example of one of the children that they say
it's not fair to represent as suffering from starvation. There's
a fourteen year old boy, they say, who was featured.
I'm just going to read you what they say. These
are their words. The fourteen year old boy was featured
in the same CNN story as another child suffering from malnourishment.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
The original caption didn't mention.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
That last May that boy had sustained a traumatic head
injury amid what SHMS News agency, a Gaza based outlet,
called an Israeli shell explosion. My son was injured in
the head. His mother explained part of his skull was removed.
And so what the free press is saying is, oh, well,
you didn't mention CNN in that article that Israeli's blue
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part of his skull apart, and that that's contributed to
his malnourished state. So is that supposed to be a
propaganda win for Israel that in addition to the fact
you're starving this child to death, you also blew up
part of his head.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Is that a win?
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Another one of the individual the kids that they talk
about here, Oh, they also suffer from rickets. Do you
know what causes rickets? Vitamin deficiency causes rickets? And you
think that, oh, that's completely separate and apart from malnourishment
and famine and starvation. I mean, it's just so disgusting.
Of course, the first people who are on the brink
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of death, or who have in hundreds of instances at
this point, already starve to death. Yes, of course, it's
the sick, it's the weak, it's the vulnerable. Those are
the first people, often children, often infants, or the elderly,
to die in famine conditions. That does not take away
anything from the horrors of what is being perpetrated here.
(32:54):
And I just it's unbelievable to me that people put
this stuff out and think that this makes.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Israel look good. Oh, congratulate you.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
He had his head blown up too, and he's starving
to death, So it's different. CNN's lying, they're doing Prohamas
propaganda like disgusting, so disgusting.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Zed has actually made the I have never familiarized myself
with Holocaust denile, so I didn't know the finer points. Yeah,
learning now thanks to Zed watching time, So yeah, I'm
backing you up. You should steal this. Zed informed all
of us that a key tenant of Holocaust denile is
trying to claim that many of the initial victims or
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purported victims had other, you know, preconditions, and that's part
of the reason why they died. And you know, the
war was tough on everybody, and it wasn't think. Another one,
which you know, I talked about those with Ryan, was
people talking about how there are restaurants in Gaza that
are operating. And again, because I'm not familiar with the
Holocaust and Isle, apparently that is a key tenant of
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why the war's not Ghetto was not so bad. Was
that the very you know, filthy rich members of the
Jewish community who could barter trade or whatever, could afford food. Actually, yes,
they did have restaurants that they were available, but according
to many of the accounts, it was not. It was
an actual daily reality that you could have rich people
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afford food and people literally starving outside of those very doors,
which is psychotic and crazy obviously, but just to demonstrate,
you know that these is straight out of that type
of denialism that I had no idea against. I've never
engaged with any of it, like at an actual level,
but apparently this is a lot of what it was.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
We're seeing the playbook unfolding the Rickets thing.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
I was like, really, you're going to say Rickets.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
When this Olivia Ngngold tweeted it out. She was like,
she mentioned specifically Rickets.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
She's the one who read every single tweet of zoron
Mumdanni and said that it was journalism. If anyone's wondering,
and they made a TikTok about it. Actually she's like,
I've read every single tweet.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
It's not stalking. It's called journalists. Wasn't that what she said?
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Journalists?
Speaker 2 (34:56):
All right, let's go on and get to updates with
regard to Israel because there are some significant ones. Put
E one up on the screen again. We've been so
reliant on drop site. They just do incredible journalism here
breaking things down. This is the statement specifically from Hamas,
but they informed the Hamas movement Palisan in factions have
(35:17):
informed of their approval of their proposal presented to them
yesterday by Egyptian and Kantari mediators. Some of the details
here again per drop site. They say Hamas accepts these
fire proposal submitted by Egypt and Qatar. Egypt this morning
presented a revised version of US on Voice Steve Whitcoff's
sixty day plan based on the thirteen point framework. Hamas
(35:38):
had submitted amendments more than three weeks ago to the
previous proposal. Israel never replied, instead withdrawing its team and
threatening to quote conquer all of Gaza. Hamas official told
Reuters Group is approved the proposal, but provided no further details.
That proposal back by Egypt and Qatar calls for a
sixty day halt to military operations and offers a pathway
toward negotiating a comprehensive deal to end the nearly two
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year genocidal war. Israel's response is pending, and I as
far as I know this morning, there hasn't been any
movement on the Israeli side, and so I wouldn't you
know basically what this calls for a sixty day ceasefire
while the further phases are being negotiated out to completely
and the war.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
I haven't had a chance to talk to Jeremy yet,
but personally, I don't feel very helpful that the Israeli
side is going to accept this because they seem hell
bent on their complete ethnic cleansing plan and are you know,
moving forward with effectuating that outcome and putting that into places.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Well, yesterday Trump also had a tweet where he's like,
the only way we'll get rid of the hostages is
the occupation or destruction or whatever of Hamas. But it
is I mean, I don't know. At the same time,
there's long been a theory that the Trump rhetoric or
whatever is about pushing Hamas to continue accepting the ceasefire.
But part of as you and I, because we cover
it at a daily basis, this stuff almost always gets
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to the quote finish line where it's like ninety eight
percent and the Israelis are like, no, you have to
agree to a full and total occupation for all time
and they're like, okay, well, no, we're not going to
do that, and that always just breaks down, yeah, or
the government, I mean, if they actually agreed to it,
it would cause a massive political crisis in Israel. The
government could fall because the Israeli far right ministers are
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against any deal whatsoever. They want full blown occupation line.
It's already what they want. So yeah, it's very questionable
whether we'll actually go forward.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
I mean, we've seen this playbook so many times where
he'll not Nyahu will either. I mean, at this point,
I don't even it seems like they don't even feel
the need to lie anymore and pretend like they're doing
things in good faith. They're like they're acting morally. They
just are all out in the open, mask off with
all of this. But in the past we've seen him
in cert various poison pill provisions, even from the you know,
the deal member back in then when Biden announced We've
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come up with this deal and listed all the provisions
and the Israelis are behind us, et cetera, Amus is like, okay,
we accept, and then Israel inserts all sorts of new
provisions and make sure that it's you know, impossible to
get through. You have, you know, the most psycho members
of the nat Yahu coalition Mitrich and Bengavia, who are
obviously completely opposed any sort of deal. So I think
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it's unlikely it goes forward, but we wanted to make
sure to put the news out there.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
About the latest.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
We also have this as we could put this up
on the screen. There's this leaked audio from the head
of military intelligence on October seventh. This is our friend
Child who breaks it down. He says, it makes it
very clear Israeli policy is to kill tens of thousands
of Palestinians, including children, and ethnically cleanse them. Quote for everything,
this is from that head of military intelligence, for everything
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that happened on October seventh. For every person on October seventh,
fifty Palestinians should die. It does not matter if they
are kids. There is nothing to be done. They need
a knakba every now and then to feel the price.
And Child goes on to say, this is not some
rogue extremist. This is the heart of the Israeli security establishment.
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And this would be the type of person who would
be portrayed by the way as moderate within the Israeli context.
Just so we're all really clear, I think we have
the specific text of what this individual was saying. So
here's what the leaked audio, what the translation says. The
fact that there have already been fifty thousand deaths in
Gaza is necessary and required for future generations. Okay, you humiliated,
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you slaughtered, you murdered.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Everything is true.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
The price I said before the war for everything that
happened on October seventh, for every person, fifty Palestinians should die.
It doesn't matter now, kids, I'm not talking out of revenge.
I'm talking about this as a message for future generations.
There's nothing to be done. They need a knock, but
every now and then to feel the price. There's no
choice in this disturbed neighborhood. There is no choice. So
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lays it out pretty plainly. And by the way, you know,
at this point where we are all the experts who
have looked at this and estimated out and say there's
hundreds of thousands of Palestinians, we don't know the exact
number who have been killed either directly by the fighting
under the rubble, died of malnutrition, of other illnesses, of
you know, not being able to get medical treatment for
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chronic conditions, et cetera. That's where we are at this point.
We can to back that up. We can put E
three up on the screen because this is absolutely shocking.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
If you have any.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Doubt about the extent of the horror and the outright
genocide that's going on here. Look at the fall off
in life expectancy since October seventh, so the darker blue
that you can see there, that just absolutely plummets, a
change in life expectancy of roughly minus thirty five years,
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so thirty five years on average being cut off of
everyone's life in the Gaza strip unbelievable. And you can
see the comparison to other brutal wars in Afghanistan, in Iraq,
in Syria, in Yemen. You know, Syria is the closest comparison,
and it's you know, at its worst life expectance. He
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dropped about twelve years, which again horrifying, horrifying numbers, but
pales in comparison to the scale of the slaughter and
destruction of life in Gaza, where life expectancy has plummeted
by thirty five years. It's just to see it in
that form is just absolutely chilling.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Zagera very grim. We can go to the next part too,
just to show people this. Let's put this. This guy,
by the way, if anybody doesn't remember, is the student
who cried on camera with Mike Johnson about not feeling
safe on campus since.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
His Yeah, I didn't realize this is all lore.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
Al since probably one of the most prominent I would say,
Zionist propaganda guys on Twitter, he says, quote breaking. Israel
is currently in talks with five countries Indonesia, Somala, Land, Uganda,
South Sudan, and Libya about the potential resettlement of Palestinians
from the Gaza strip. Kind of just saying it out loud.
By the way, did anyone notice that like three of
those countries are either failed or shaky governments, which are
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worth more because they're money desperate, you know, for something
not exactly like thriving places that are capable of sustaining
their own population, let alone like I don't know, you know,
millions of people who would be expelled. So, you know,
just think it's kind of important for people to see.
What else am I thinking here? Oh right, this last one.
(42:21):
I can't get over this because it gives the whole
game away. Let's go and put E five on the
screen so they I love how they just say this
shit out loud and admit the game. The IDF is
planning on asking the Jewish diaspora to encourage Jewish youth
to join the IDF due to a severe man power shortage.
(42:42):
So let me just read that again. The IDF says
that they have a severe man power shortage and some
quote estimated at ten to twelve thousand that are missing
right now from idea Franks and because it would be
too shocking to Israeli politics to draft the ultra Orthodox,
who are all on welfare and live off of the Dole.
By the way, the Dole America pays for just in terms,
so people understand, They now say they will need to
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get some six to seven hundred dollars six to seven
hundred additional soldiers each year from Jewish communities abroad, who
added that the United States and France will be the
main targets of the IDF efforts. So basically, the IDF
is saying that the only way that they can sustain
their manpower and gaza is to basically propagandize and ask
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American citizens residents of the United States and of France
to move to their country and to go and serve
in their military, which they know will not result in
them losing US citizenship and also will basically quote deepen
the ties. That's always the way that they talk about it.
Between those two face no consequences, and it's an open
part of their recruitment strategy. Imagine if America was like,
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we don't have enough troops, so we're gonna call on
I mean, actually, there's no parallel, there's no ethnic component
of being a mari across the world. There's no other
country in the world that could do this or get
away with it. I mean, wouldn't people be outraged. Imagine
if Indian Pakistan got into a war and they were like,
we call all Indians of Indian descent to come back
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and to fight. The Germans actually did this, the Nazis did.
I forget what exactly what it was called. They're like
all loyal Germans.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
Very Nazi soil behaved.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Okay, there you go, so all, yeah, what the Nazis
did is that I forget the exact term. It's in German.
But they were like, any loyal German must return to
the fatherland to come and to fight for Hitler at lo.
It wasn't all that successful, just so people were aware.
But that's effectively like the equivalent of what they say.
They're like any Jew who is really patriotic, the conflation
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of Judaism in the state of Israel, which is always sickening.
I mean, just today Natagna who attacked the Prime Minister
of Australia who said that he had abandoned Australia's Jews
because he was willing to recognize the state of Palestine.
That literally just happened this morning.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
There is nothing more anti Semitic than saying every Jew
has associated with this genocidal holocaust, like it's there is
utterly disgusting. But I mean also a part of me
is like listen, if you feel moved to you know,
if you want to put like if you're pro genocide,
you want to go be part of.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
That, go like get out of here.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
But the problem is because they can come back.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
That's the problem because what happened, I mean, then they
come back and they end up the head of censorship
at TikTok or we're working for the New York Times
or any work.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
Somebody protests them an American and then they get investigated
by the dj which is literally happening.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Correct, Yeah, that's that's exactly right. So so yeah, I
can't I can't say that not to mention. I mean,
it's just yeah, it's it's very revealing. Another very revealing
thing that I don't even know what to say about.
I can't even really wrap my head around it. Let's
put the six up on the screen. There was a
Kannesset Special Committee on Foreign Workers that performed an investigation
of the Thai agricultural workers who were are there in
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the state of Israel, and they found that six hundred
and fifty four out of six hundred and fifty four
had reported experiencing sexual assault. One hundred percent of the
tie foreign workers who were there reported being sexually assaulted
as part of this study. Now, they don't typically report
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it to the authorities. One can only presume because first
of all, they're worried about losing their job, losing their status,
don't think they'll be believed, et cetera. But in this
person who finds the same state that markets itself as
a democracy relies on imported farm labor, then terms a
blind eye as sexual violence becomes routine, silenced, and systemic.
So just disgusting abuses here that you know are lurking
(46:40):
under the surface of the society and sometimes not on
the surface.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
I genuinely don't even know what to say about that.
It's crazy, Yes, that's all you can say. I don't
know what's going on over there. It's I mean, it's wild.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
It is really wild to wrap your het around. And
I don't think Israelis, like fundamentally as human beings, are
any different than human beings around, which is why it's
so unsettling when you see these polls that are like, yeah,
they're all for the ethnic cleansing, like even the quote
unquote liberal ones they're down with it. They are you know,
huge numbers are like yes, murder every Palestinian. And You're
(47:17):
just like, how does this happen in a society? And
it's years and years of ideological propagandizing, It's years and
years of complete and total dehuman humanization of Palestinians or
Arabs overall.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
I mean, it's I don't know.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
There need to be studies of what the hell has
gone wrong in this society because it's truly.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
Sick intellectually, and I can understand it because I've read
a lot about it in terms of the I mean,
look at the way that Americans treated the Japanese or
like Japanese Americans, right and not only in terment camps,
but even worse like in terms of the propaganda and
the way that we all looked at the war. And
I'm not even talking about that, I'm not talking just
about the atomic bomb, but really like the way that
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they would cheer it and look, I mean, that's not
absolving the literal Japanese War war crimes and like barbaric
behavior for thirteen years in the war, but it's part
of that where you could see how that could happen
in the forties and the fifties, because that's when information
was much more controlled. It's a lot harder to understand
in the year twenty twenty five, in the age of
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the smartphone. It actually makes me doubt whether the information
age makes people more informed at all. I actually think
we may all be less informed than ever if you
don't want to be, because if you don't seek things out,
you actually just won't see it. You can see almost
anything of what you want. It's not even controlled by
the government at that point. It's like creating your own
spaces and then nothing can enter that, right, and so
you can actually live in a reality where every child
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in Gaza is a you know, is a hamas.
Speaker 3 (48:45):
Reading mind coom from the time that they're two years old.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Right, it's not the FDR people who have to tell
you that. It's like you're all socially reinforcing it and
it kind of bubbles up from the surface. But I
don't know, I mean, it is genuinely a sociological study
of like this is a Western stufle country for you,
or sold itself that way. It's always had weird you know,
little idiosyncrensies. But I've visited there. I'm telling you, if
you go to Tel Aviv, it's did not feel all
(49:09):
that different from Los Angeles. I really, I really want
people to understand that. And so to watch that. I
was there twelve years ago, so to look at that
from there to now, it's shocking. You know, it's shocking
the way that it's all flipped on at it. People
I probably met and spent time with, you know, are
either fighting or supportive.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
You know.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
Yeah, it's crazy. And I see that in their podcast
where they say this stuff in English and they're like,
it makes me happy when I see guys in Starbuck. Yeah, dude,
it's great.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
Those two guys was their podcast called like two Nice
Jewish Boys or something like that, and they're like, it
makes me when I'm watching a soccer football game, it
makes me feel better to know that Palestinians are sufferings.
That heightens the enjoyment of the experience for me. How
fucking I say that? Just sick And you're right, and
I'll actually like it is a hard thing, like emotionally
(50:01):
to grapple with. It's a hard thing to matt because
you think we've evolved and oh, we have these like
progressive values and we try to you know, we don't
live up to it, but we try to be more
tolerant of all different types of people. And we don't
have this like race science that says, oh, no different
races or but they Zionism is built on a supremacist ideology,
on a Jewish supremacist ideology, and I truly think that
(50:23):
that is a cancer. If you have an ideology that
says one group is better, more deserving, gets more rights
than another group, then all sorts of horrors flow directly
from there, because if they're not truly human, you can
do anything too. You can abuse them, you can rape them,
you can murder them, you can starve their children, you
(50:44):
can lie about all of it, and it's that bedrock
ideological foundation that I think allows all of that to flow.
And then the use of religion too makes it extra
ponent because if God is saying, hey, this is like
you're doing the right thing per God, that it provides
this more like moral justification for absolute horrors.
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Gavin Newsom has been going wild on Twitter and there's
this weird maybe you could explain it a little more
to be sager, but there's this weird horseshoe where actually,
like a bunch of the white nationalists Kroupers have negatively
polarized themselves against Trump to.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Not just Trump, with JD specifically jdbat writing they do
hate and wife.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
That's correct.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
That's a huge part, yes, correct, not a huge part,
that's the entire part.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
And so they've negatively polarize themselves into being pro Gavin,
and so in any case, there are all sorts of
let's go ahead and put C two. Let's go ahead
and roll through some of these means, and then we
can play the Fox News reaction.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
There's all sorts of stuff going on.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Gavin Newsom reply to this picture of this video of
Scott Presler and say thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Nancy Mace.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Tommy laren is then upset by this, says new Lows
unlocked by Gavin Newsom, You're kidding me.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Your state and.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Your bullshit governor rant and rave on a daily basis
about protecting gay people. You're really going to use your
official press office account to troll a gay conservant call
him a woman. And then the Newsom Press office replies,
you sound woke. We can put the next one up
on the screen, just to get a flavor of a
bunch of these.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
This is.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I don't know, this might be a Nancika. I have
no idea who this person is. But in any case,
they say, which way America, And they've got Gavin looking
very handsome and fit in high school with his baseball bat.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
And Jade Vance with wagon.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
At a similar age, and apparently eyeliner as well. Let's
put the next one up on the screen. You've got
this isn't a legit Nazi account, This one that posted
Gavin Newsom versus j D vance in high school. And
then Gavin retweets this legit Nazi account and says, I
missed that scarf. Let's put the next one up on
(02:18):
the screen. See what else we got here?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
This one he posted, go Gadham j D. This was
actually a video of.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
JD looking like not too athletic, running to rescue his kid.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
He's doing the Disneyland.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Disneyland yeahah, the true parent run of run don't walk,
but know that you're on camera.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I'll defend him on that one.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
The only reason that I think any of this is
interesting is that Gavin is basically just going trump like.
He's going all like Trumpy in terms of his posting
with the memes and all events all caps.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
While what an honor on Mount Rushmore? Thank you?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
And it's like an AI image of Gavin Newsom Rushmore.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Quite no yet go into the next one.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
This is lives of TikTok, who had posted I remember
she posted something mean about him, and then he said
great job Chaia and has the picture of her with
her Binder so excited on Epstein Files Phase one day.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yeah, my take from Gavin is that he is very
clearly trying to he basically is very clearly trying to
become the Democratic Trump, where it's all just about one thing.
He fights, he pisss off the Republicans, and it's been
somewhat effective, I think right now, because okay, it's somewhat
(03:27):
effective in a couple of ways. Number one is it's
turning conservatives now into concern trolling snowflakes like Tommy Laren
being like that's so mean going out. It's like, fuck
the fuck off, all right, Like, you know, come on,
this is we are, we are. It's twenty twenty five.
We're all ripping on each other all day long. The
Libs are doing it now, so be if anything is
good dark no more, yeah, no more pearl clutching, I
(03:48):
think is great. You know, it's like, oh, we really
care Scott Presler's feelings are going to get hurt, Like,
get out of here. It's not does she have feelings?
I don't even know if she's human.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Oh she's got feelings, she's got big emotion.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I don't know. It all seems very fake to me say,
she seems like a classic actor. That's all I say.
But in terms of Gavin, I think what is interesting
more to me is what they're big discussion yesterday about
this polarization over what are the issues and what are
the things that will define being a Democratic nominee in
(04:21):
twenty twenty eight, and already some of the initial polling
is showing up for Gavin. Let's go and put this
up there on the screen. This was Echelon Insights. It
was actually just conducted just yesterday, and it's a twenty
twenty eight Democratic primary poll. Kamala Harris came in at
twenty six percent. I'm not sure that would be a
good idea, but whatever. But number two is Newsom, and
number three buddhaj Edge, then AOC Booker, Crockett, Pritzker, Witmer, Shapiro, etcetera.
(04:46):
All of them are in the two or the three
percent range. The reason why I think that's important, though,
is that Newsom is not only number two, assuming that
Kamala does not run again. And what it means is
that he's capturing at the very least not only with
name recognition, but primary like the primary character syndrome of
who the Democrat, like who's actually leading the fight or
whatever against Trump? And that's really just very Trumpian And
(05:09):
it's exactly what I heard from a lot of Republicans
back in twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen. Even a lot
of people need to remember, it was not socially acceptable
in Washington even for Republicans to support Trump, like very
openly in twenty fifteen or intoor twenty sixteen. The defenders
would always say the same thing, Yeah, again it it's distasteful,
or oh, you know, at that time, it was scandalous
(05:31):
that Trump wanted free healthcare or whatever, was questioning a
trade policy or anything. They're like, but he fights, you know.
And it was one of those where you could connect
that with the Trump base voters. And those were some
of the first reported Right when I started out, I
started talking to people, I was like, Hey, what are
these Trump rallies? Like I'm talking about the original ones
like Iowa and New Hampshire. They were like, man, I've
(05:52):
never seen anything like it. People who came completely out
of the woodwork, and they just love how he tells
it like it is. That's what we heard over and
over again, like it had nothing to really do with policy.
I mean, there are policy implications to that, But my
point about Gavin is I think that he's connecting very solidly,
like with where that No King's energy is for a
lot of these people, and with Gavin and his about
(06:15):
face from the initial days of the Trump administration, post
vibe shift has been one where he's taken all of
the most like performative fighting actions like the lawsuits, the
you know, the LA riots or whatever, like you know,
mobilizing the lawsuits against the National Guard, and then the
Twitter piece. The only reason I think it's important is
really to invite conversation by a lot of the Republican
(06:37):
elites to negatively polarize them against him. Yeah, that's very
helpful because one of the things people loved most about Trump,
even if they didn't like him, they loved how much
he pissed off the media. So the more that the
Tommy Larrence and Fox News is are mad at Gavin,
the more happy that these Democrats are going to be.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, they love that Trump owned the Libs and like
track the Libs, and now if Gavin's able to trigger
the conservatives, the base is going to.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Eat that up.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
It's shocking that more of these idiotic democratic politicians haven't
realized that that is the case. And actually, I mean
it took Gavin a while to get it. He was there,
you know, launched his podcast, having on Charlie Kirk to
like just hang out and have this like chummy conversation
with him, Steve Bannon and others, and then he got
when Trump sent in the National Guard. I feel like
(07:24):
that's when it really turned because Gavin started fighting and
being vocal and visible and got a positive response, and
it's like, oh, this is the thing that people want
me to do. So to your point about triggering the Trumpers,
I guess we'll say triggering the trumpers. Fox Knew's doing
some just delicious pearl clutching over some comments that Gavin
(07:47):
Newsom made that I don't even know if he intended
as being like, you know, an intentional dig at Governor
Greg Abbott's the fact that he's disabled, that he's in
a wheelchair. I don't even know if he intended that,
But anyway, Fox News was in high dudgeon about these comments,
and you'll see their response to Gavin Newsom's reply, Let's
go ahead. This is see one, guys, go ahead and play.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
This Congressman Greg Abbott, who is in a wheelchair, and
Newsom says he rolled over for Trump. That's almost as
bad as Jasmine Crockett calling him governor hot wheels. You know,
we asked for a statement, and Newsom's office said something
flippant like, you know, you're so woke. He'll get over it,
abboit'll get over it your response to it.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
So actually the reply from the newsom press office was,
you know, asked if for a statement. He said no,
But how woke of you to ask. I'm sorry Greg's
feelings were poor guy. We hope he recovers. So that
was their reply. So that's their like, you know, level
of trolling, and so they're loving seeing And there was
some other I don't remember if we pulled it or not.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Oh yeah we did. We pulled C three B, which.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Was another moment of Fox News being so offended, so
disgusted by the way that Gavin Newsom is comporting himself.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Now let's go ahead and play that.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Thing for me.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Is that for the last week Gavin Newsom? And why
am I giving him advice? You had to stop it
with the Twitter thing. I don't know where his wife
is if I.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Want his wife.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
I would say, you are making a fool of yourself.
Stop it, do not, do not let your staff tweet.
And if you're doing it yourself, put the phone away
and start over. And if you want. He's got a
big job as governor of California, but if he wants
an even bigger job, he has to be a little
bit more serious.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
And of course it's just spent a lot more less
time on his phone tweeting. That's never worked out.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Where have you heard that before? Where you heard that before?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I mean, that's what's so funny, is like, do you
not hear yourself? Do you not realize who the president is?
That you like, you know, glaze off.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Baby Trump. Oh, it's just so amazing how much direct
access we have to the AMIA.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Oh, he's so funny. It's such a great way of
communicating with people.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah. I will tell you the last forty eight hours,
I have wanted to blow my brains out because I
keep it watching all this Fox News because of the Summit.
I just want the live TV. I just want the
live television like access to this. So every once in
a while I will forget to mute Jesse Waters and
I'm like, I am gonna kill myself if I have
to keep everyone listening to this idiot.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Every time I watch cable news, I'm like, oh, that's
why people.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
You know, My wife, my wife who does not watch
any Breaking points whatsoever and thinks I'm cringe, is like, oh,
this is why you have a career. So even she
thinks I'm better than these people.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
You know, It's like it's one of those where it's maddening,
but it's exactly reasons like that. Where As you know,
there's some you know, octagenarian from watching Foxes, like, yeah,
it's such a good point about Gavin, but then at
the same time loves Trump and loves the Mika Brazinski
facelift tweet is their favorite ever, right.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Whether they'd admit it or not. Yeah, no, they secretly
enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah they know. You know, if you talk to these
people enough like it, it comes out very quickly about
what this is all about. Let's put C four up
on the screen. This is the polymar Get betting oddsn
Gavin's h he's quite up there, twenty three percent. He's
not that was taking yesterday. He's gone up too since then.
He's at twenty three as of right now, AOC is
at four. I would sell that. I don't know about you,
(11:12):
I would I would not buy that genuinely.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Don't think she's going.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
To Why wouldn't she come for Senate.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
I think she's gonna run.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
That'd be the must more reasons.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
That's my That is my guess at this point.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
And I think, which is part of why I think
she's like weirdly parsing on like the Israeli weapons and
all that sort of stuff. It makes more sense now.
I mean maybe like political logic escapes these people, certainly
basic morality does, but it makes more sense in the
context of trying to unseat Chuck Schumer in the state
of New York. Yeah, so that's my reading at this point.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
That's a total cell for me.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Oh yeah, Like if you watch those israel answers for
him and the cleanup and just how little Rizzi has
and how black people still don't want anything to do
with him.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Like, Also, isn't South Carolina still the first Like I
think it's still going to be.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah, it's early, so I forget about it and take
a look at it. Sorry, maybe it can be exact
Secretary again, wes you know.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I was trying to find this out. What title takes precedents?
Is it mayor or secretary? And nobody can actually give
me a good answer.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
For I don't know officially, but for me, he's just
like mayor is so baked into his.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I say mayor because it's elected, and in cabinet is
because you're elected so bia like by the people. Technically
in the mayor, so secretary is confirmed by the cabinet,
but I'd have to check the secretary.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Has got an extra syllable in it. Agree, we all
know him as mayor Pete. That's just that's what he is.
It doesn't really matter at this point. But I mean
what I will say, and I said this yesterday, but
just to reiterate, the thing that Gavin is benefiting from
right now too is that he doesn't really have to
answer any difficult questions on things that would be challenging
for him. So immigration will be one of those things.
(12:55):
But I think more critically right now is where he
stands on Israel and Gaza. The things that he has
said to date are not good, but he has never
put himself in a position where he is going to
be specifically pressed on that issue. And little behind the scenes.
We've been trying for quite a while now to get
an interview with mister Newsom.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
I have a new lead on that. By the way,
it's just happened.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Like, well, yeah, so in any case, we've he follows
me on Twitter.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I reached out to them that way. We reach out
through the press office.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
We got you know, specific No, he's not interested in
both instances, and he's been going out and doing lots
of Brian Tyler are like all kinds of online media,
but he doesn't want to come here.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
And it wouldn't surprise me if it's because he does.
I think it's he does.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I don't even because the first time we reached out
was pre Slotkin.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
But he's smart enough to.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Know that, Like if you just look at our channel,
obviously Israel Palestine is a focus of concern for us
and interest, and he's not going to get through an
interview without getting asked really specific questions that he has
no good answer for.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
But at some point he's going to have.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
To answer those questions, and it's going to cause him
to have to, you know, either divide with the donor
base that has been his key to power in California
for years and years, or he's going to divide with
where the grassroots of the not just the grassroots, the
entirety of the Democratic Party base is at this point.
(14:21):
So you know, there is some treacherous road ahead of him,
and there's also so we'll see. We'll see with him
how that goes, where he ends up. To me, that's
sort of the biggest trouble era area for him. But
there's no doubt the Democratic base is absolutely loving seeing
someone show some sort of life because it's been few
(14:44):
and far between in terms of politicians who have even
showed the slightest bit of you know, of aura of
ability to stand up to Trump, of understanding of new media,
et cetera. So it is for I think a lot
of Democrats it feels like man from having to have
this one dude was at least out there like posting
and making people kind of lose their minds about what
(15:05):
he's saying.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
My only caution is, uh, people should remember the Brat
summer thing, which was fake at the end of the
day completely, you know, everyone was.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Like, oh the pull, she's one on the all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah. Aunt, he either was astroturfed or actually I don't
think that's fair because I think it was real and
organic in some way, but.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
That Biden was gone and there was something different.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
More what I mean is became very overrepresented in coverage
and probably skewed a lot of people in media who
took it seriously and thought it was real. So my
only caution is just that sometimes this online stuff can
be taken way too far, and then in retrospect, you know,
it's pretty obvious what it is, and there are signs
for selling. I mean, we've talked yesterday about his podcast.
(15:51):
It doesn't do very well, Like sometimes he has a
good guest, but sometimes it's a total bust.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I mean he's got he's got episodes up here that
are getting five k.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
If there was like this real, organic like interest in
Gavin Newsom, you would think that every one of them
would at least be hitting one hundred.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yeah, And there's some you know, look, I mean there
are tiktoks that have gone very viral, Like we have
a vo of one of them because it has Lana
del Rey in music. Put See five up on the
screen just to show people like what it looks like.
This is you know, some of the hype reels that
people are making. But as I said, the reason the
only reason this gives me pause is because I remember
all of the ones about Kamala, Right. Kamala was huge
(16:28):
on TikTok, Right. Yeah, so it was Tim Walls like
all of them, and you know, there were all these
moments and went viral with them amongst liberals, and then
they still not only lost the election, you lost the
popular vote. Right. I just feel like that's so important
to say. So I don't know how it will materialize,
but at the very least, maybe we can take it
seriously because it is still going to be representative. At
(16:49):
the end of the day, it's about the primary. We're
not yet talking about the general elections. Yeah, we're not
right right now in the realm of how the American
people feel, we're talking about the Democratic electorate, and for them,
they want to see somebody fight. And I think that
Gavin right now is the best a And.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Gavin has more of the goods than Kamala does. Like hen'
I mean, he gives me because he has this like
car salesman vibe. Kyle always gets mad when I say
that because he used to be a car staltsman, but
he has Armie politician like you can just smell the ambition.
You can see it oozing out of every single poor
and to me, I just that's major red flag in
(17:24):
every way to me. But you know, I have to
take myself out of this equation and say, like he
when he's in he can debate. He you know, has
he is a commanding presence. He's not afraid of being
in the spotlight. He's not afraid of getting blowback.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
And being in the mix.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
And you know, those are qualities that I think, if
if sort of leveraged in the right way, are certainly
very appealing to a Democratic base right now that again
is just so desperate for anyone who has anything to
say and is going to like have any sort of
a spine or a backbone at all.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I mean, as I've repeatedly said about Gavin, he believes nothing.
He will say anything correct. That is absolutely true. That
is what you need more than anything to be president.
You have to have the black hole in your soul,
and he has it. You can tell. There's no other
reason to be chasing the spotlight for your entire life.
To want to go on Sean Hannity's show. His biggest
(18:18):
smile is when he's engaged in fights with Ron De
Santis and with Hannity. That's what he actually lives to do,
is to like be in the spotlight, is to elevate
his profile, is to like be the number one man,
and so that type of ambition can only lead in
one direction. He reminds me a lot actually Bill Clinton,
like in terms of just that tick inside from the
(18:38):
very beginning of like have to have it, got to
have it. Yeah, Clinton was psychological.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Clinton was much more sort of naturally appealing, though he
didn't have that same.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Sure it didn't come across that way, although secretly he was.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
I mean, of course for student body, we came off
yea right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
But it's like graduates from law school and he's like,
I'm going to be governor. People are like, what who
are you know? I mean, to his credit, he did win,
so you know he can't count him out. Exactly the
same with Gavin. He's got the same appeal. Frankly, is
even more appealing than Clinton. Arkansas is like a forty
eighth month popular state in the country, is the most
popular states, a G seven economy in its own right.
He has a massive donor base that he can tap
(19:17):
at any moment, and they love him because he spends
a lot of time with them and he's cultivated him
now for a decade, the richest most powerful people in
the United States, probably the tech.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Industry, Silicon Valley in Hollywood, Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Put all that together combined with the like he fights energy,
So that's got democratic elites plus the Democratic base. You
marry those two. I think it's a it's a recipe
for being formidable.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Shitty establishment neoliberals that are you know, potential for the
twenty twenty field.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
He's the one I'm most worried about. For sure.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
You should be.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I mean, I'm not worried about Whitmer. I don't know
what she's doing. She's out there like playing Patty Case
with Trump.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Girl.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
You are so misreading the moment like all of these
other He's the one that I think has the most ants.
So I am concerned about him. I am officially concerned.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yeah, agreed.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
All right, let's go ahead and get to the ADL
head Jonathan green Platt, who went on CNBC to bash
and just outright brazenly lie about zoron Manzani, who of
course is the Democratic nominee for New York City mayor.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Let's go ahead and take a listen to this.
Speaker 7 (20:25):
We have a mayoral candidate.
Speaker 8 (20:26):
Well, that's where I want to go with this next. Sure,
So what do you make what do you make of
this mayoral candidate who, likely the right things are going,
is going to become the mayor of this city. Yeah,
and the fact that he was asked, as you know,
three times repeatedly, do you condemn the phrase globalize the Intefada?
And for whatever reason, almost inexplicably unless you believe he's
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an anti Semite weight.
Speaker 7 (20:49):
Let's just make sure all the viewers know the to
Fado is a violent uprising in the palest Indian territories
where they murdered over a thousand people simply because they
were Jewish. Bus bombing, stabbing, shootings, et cetera. So that
being said, why won't he condemn globaliz intofada because he
believes it? I mean, I think we have to take
people at their word. Look, in the last.
Speaker 8 (21:10):
Months, make it even more complicated. We became jeffreys on
last week. Yeah, Okay, we talked about this, and we
talked about it in the context of those comments. What
Minority Leader Jeffreyes say, he almost could he he almost
couldn't condemn him either in that regard, because what's going
to happen is if he wins, people who even disagree
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with him on times like this will think that they
have to agree with him.
Speaker 7 (21:35):
Look, whether you agree with President Trump or it would
be mayor mom, Donnie, we have to deal with elected
leaders as they are. But I think there are questions
we should ask right now, Like this candidate has visited
churches and mosques, not a single synagogue. This candidate has
gone to Harlem to meet the Black community, Washington Heights
to meet the Latino community, Chinatown to meet the Asian
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American community, not once to a Jewish neighborhood.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
The last pool, I saw something like thirty two or
thirty three percent of Jewish Americans in New York were supporting.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
Fairly that fairly respectually, Becky, like, I don't believe the
polls because I know something about this candidate. He hasn't
been to any of the mainstream Jewish institutions He's it
would appear, I mean, I haven't heard from him. I
don't think the heads of most of the.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Major Jewish groups acratically, I mean harder get the polls.
How many voted for him in the Democratic primary.
Speaker 7 (22:24):
I mean relatively speaking, we know that the way that
the worked out was actually pretty low number.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Okay, First of all, why anyone takes this man seriously
at this point is an absolute and complete mystery to me.
Second of all, what brazen Nearly every word out of
his mouth is just a brazen lie.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
There.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
So he says, Oh, he hasn't been visited a single synagogue.
Put t two up on the screen. What do we
see here? Law and behold wonderful to be back at
this synagogue on the Upper West Side last night for
mayoral forum on the critical issues facing the Jewish community
in this election. And frankly, the fact he hasn't reached
out to Jonathan green Blatz, in my view, is a
major point in his favor. And that's really I think
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what green Blatt is mad about. If he hasn't gone
and you know, kissed the ring of Jonathan green Blatt,
then any other outreach that he's done to the Jewish community,
which Becky there points out, by the way, this guy
is doing better with Jews in New York city than
any other mayoral candidate. But if he hasn't kissed Jonathan
Greenblatz ring specifically, then it really doesn't count. We can
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put D four up on the screen because they did
a good job of breaking down every single one of
the lies that in that short clip that green Blatz tells.
So they say, contrary to Greenblat's assertion, Mom Donnie attended
Shabbat services in Park Slope in February, visited the offices
of the UJA Federation for a town hall co hosted
with the Jewish Community Relations Council in May, participated in
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two separate candidate forums at cong Congregation Ben I just
shrew run, Sorry guys, butcher that in Manhattan in June,
nonetheless the Democratic mayoral primary. He also made an effort
to reach out to the more than seven hundred thousand
Jewish voters in New York, including a visit to an
annual legislative breakfast in Flatbush, heavily orthodox neighborhood in Brooklyn
with a politically conservative electorate. He also Greenblatt claims that
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Mom Donnie did not reach out to Hasidic voters in
their native Yiddish language, also a lie. He gave an
interview to a Yiddish language Hissitic newspaper that were photos
circulating on social media showing pro Mam Donnie Yiddish language
campaign posters on a poll in Burrough Park. He's relying
on a senior team of Jewish professionals for his campaign.
And this whole globalized the Intifada thing is such total
(24:37):
and complete bullshit. First of all, if you did say it,
I'd support it, But he never actually said it, and
he has shifted to even saying he would discourage its
use since he got so much scrutiny and pressure put
on him over all of this, So just utter and
complete lies out of this man's mouth and zero ability
to reckon with the fact that actually the the strongest
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candidate in the field, both in the primary and now
in the general election with Jewish voters is Zorn Mandani,
who yes, is an avowed anti Zionist, who is pro BDS,
who thinks that the.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
War criminal Benjamin Natnaw.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Who should be arrested if he ever came to New
York City. And guess what New York City made voters
agree with him?
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Not with you?
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, well said, And I think it's actually just very
interesting because it's a couple of different areas that we
can look at. The ADL has a lot of institutional power,
but it is increasingly losing a lot of its political power,
and I think that's what's very important, and just to
show everybody though that the institutional power they have. I
found this story recently. I wanted to break some of
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it down. Can we put D three up on the screen?
There were, apparently, very recently a huge fight in the
teachers union in the NEA over rejecting ADL materials basically
propaganda materials to be used by teachers to teach quote
about anti semit So apparently what happened is that the
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members approved a proposal inside of the teachers' union to
sever all of their ties with the ADL over the
war in Gaza. But the executive committee overruled basically this
and rejected it, saying that they will continue to work
with them over quote anti Semitism or Holocaust education. So
(26:24):
as you can see there. But the reason why I
think this is very important is what they say for them,
is they're blaming union rules or any of that or whatever,
is that they still have a huge hold on a
lot of the nation's institutions, from Twitter to the US government,
working with the Trump administration, working with the Biden administration,
as we saw previously, they assembled a lot of the
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target lists or at least helped for some of these
deportations of these Israel critics who were students who again
literally were here legally did nothing else other than criticize Israel,
and now a lot of their materials because of this
legacy stuff they've done on the Holocaust, continues to kind
of do the work of pro Israeli propaganda. So it's
just one of those where, you know, the beast of
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the adl if you really want to like dismantle it.
It's not just it's it's important politically to actually have
candidates who outright reject them. But those candidates then need
to look at all of the other areas that they're influencing,
like censorship, misinformation. Oh yeah, and this that's why I
think it's really important.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
And this guy just booked across cable.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
I mean, you and I were talking when he was on.
I'm like, why is this man on CNBC? Like, actually,
this is a financial network, you know. When I put
CNBC on, I'm like, what's the stock of Nvidia. What's
jen sevn got to say? That's it Bloomberg or any
of these other places. This this channel is on every
office on all Wall Street all day long. They watch
it for financial news, not for any of this. Sometimes
(27:48):
they have politics on, like Charlie Kirk or whatever was
on the other day, but even that was about tariffs,
and that was about the economy. This in particular, it's like,
what is the purpose of this segment other than to
basically weaponize and you know, like mobilize like the Wall
Street New York City elites to try and continue their
failed like anti mom Donnie campaign. Now so far it's like, yeah, look,
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Ackman and at all have all tried. It's all come
up nothing because you have nothing. They have no plan
or ability to stop mom Donnie from getting elected. At
this point, he's going to be mayor.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Their fantasy is that everyone except Andrew Cuomo drops out
of the race, which is a fantasy.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
It's not happening.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
But even if it did, even in the polling when
it is a head to head, Zoron still wins because
Colmos sucks.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
People don't like him, right, He's terrible.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
He's out there humiliating himself the way he's posting on
a daily basis, like your plan has failed, so and
they do not want to grapple with reality. That's why
he's like, oh, I don't believe the polls. Actually, if
you'll recall, in the Democratic primary, the polls wildly understated
zoran support wildly because he completely was able to change
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the elector. He actually shifted the elector and brought out
so many more young people than were anticipated. So don't
be surprised if the polls are once again underestimating his support,
because it's very difficult to predict in these sorts of elections.
With a candidate who is so unique and who himself
is able to change who shows up to vote, it
makes it very difficult to do the polling and for
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it to ultimately be accurate.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
I wanted to get this in. It's a little bit. Uh.
It fits, but it doesn't totally fit.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
But I will say the Free Press is a sort
of ADL aligned institution, and it does fit with me.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
They're actually more militant.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
They are more milled, but it fits with the idea
that there is like for you know, the Israel bear
hug position. There has been almost complete loss of public
support outside of like Boomer Republicans, but there's still a
lot of elite support and elite pushing of this narrative
free press and their you know supposal. What was their valuation,
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undred fifty million dollars something valuation I think.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Because it means where we're the hundred millions. Yeah, exactly,
support it because we're really rich.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Sim Dylan was like, what do I need to stay?
Speaker 2 (30:10):
It's fine to blow up toddlers, It's good anyway, Let's
put their latest journalism up on the screen here. I
am so thoroughly disgusted with this line of quote unquote reporting.
So the headline here is they became symbols for Gazen starvation,
(30:30):
but all twelve suffer from other health problems. And they
go through these twelve individuals, all of them Palestinian children
who are being starved and you know, and suffering through
all sorts of things true, not just starvation in Gaza,
that they are suffering through, as if to disprove the
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idea that there is there are famine conditions in Gaza,
which is insane because you can just look at the
staff yourself about the amount of food trucks that were
allowed in four months and months there was an almost
complete blockade. There has been some lifting of that, some
trucks are getting in. It has eased slightly, but nowhere
near what is needed. And so let me give you
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an example of one of the children that they say
it's not fair to represent as suffering from starvation. There's
a fourteen year old boy, they say, who was featured.
I'm just going to read you what they say. These
are their words. The fourteen year old boy was featured
in the same CNN story as another child suffering from malnourishment.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
The original caption didn't mention.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
That last May that boy had sustained a traumatic head
injury amid what SHMS News agency, a Gaza based outlet,
called an Israeli shell explosion. My son was injured in
the head. His mother explained part of his skull was removed.
And so what the free press is saying is, oh, well,
you didn't mention CNN in that article that Israeli's blue
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part of his skull apart, and that that's contributed to
his malnourished state. So is that supposed to be a
propaganda win for Israel that in addition to the fact
you're starving this child to death, you also blew up
part of his head.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Is that a win?
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Another one of the individual the kids that they talk
about here, Oh, they also suffer from rickets. Do you
know what causes rickets? Vitamin deficiency causes rickets? And you
think that, oh, that's completely separate and apart from malnourishment
and famine and starvation. I mean, it's just so disgusting.
Of course, the first people who are on the brink
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of death, or who have in hundreds of instances at
this point, already starve to death. Yes, of course, it's
the sick, it's the weak, it's the vulnerable. Those are
the first people, often children, often infants, or the elderly,
to die in famine conditions. That does not take away
anything from the horrors of what is being perpetrated here.
(32:54):
And I just it's unbelievable to me that people put
this stuff out and think that this makes.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Israel look good. Oh, congratulate you.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
He had his head blown up too, and he's starving
to death, So it's different. CNN's lying, they're doing Prohamas
propaganda like disgusting, so disgusting.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Zed has actually made the I have never familiarized myself
with Holocaust denile, so I didn't know the finer points. Yeah,
learning now thanks to Zed watching time, So yeah, I'm
backing you up. You should steal this. Zed informed all
of us that a key tenant of Holocaust denile is
trying to claim that many of the initial victims or
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purported victims had other, you know, preconditions, and that's part
of the reason why they died. And you know, the
war was tough on everybody, and it wasn't think. Another one,
which you know, I talked about those with Ryan, was
people talking about how there are restaurants in Gaza that
are operating. And again, because I'm not familiar with the
Holocaust and Isle, apparently that is a key tenant of
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why the war's not Ghetto was not so bad. Was
that the very you know, filthy rich members of the
Jewish community who could barter trade or whatever, could afford food. Actually, yes,
they did have restaurants that they were available, but according
to many of the accounts, it was not. It was
an actual daily reality that you could have rich people
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afford food and people literally starving outside of those very doors,
which is psychotic and crazy obviously, but just to demonstrate,
you know that these is straight out of that type
of denialism that I had no idea against. I've never
engaged with any of it, like at an actual level,
but apparently this is a lot of what it was.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
We're seeing the playbook unfolding the Rickets thing.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
I was like, really, you're going to say Rickets.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
When this Olivia Ngngold tweeted it out. She was like,
she mentioned specifically Rickets.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
She's the one who read every single tweet of zoron
Mumdanni and said that it was journalism. If anyone's wondering,
and they made a TikTok about it. Actually she's like,
I've read every single tweet.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
It's not stalking. It's called journalists. Wasn't that what she said?
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Journalists?
Speaker 2 (34:56):
All right, let's go on and get to updates with
regard to Israel because there are some significant ones. Put
E one up on the screen again. We've been so
reliant on drop site. They just do incredible journalism here
breaking things down. This is the statement specifically from Hamas,
but they informed the Hamas movement Palisan in factions have
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informed of their approval of their proposal presented to them
yesterday by Egyptian and Kantari mediators. Some of the details
here again per drop site. They say Hamas accepts these
fire proposal submitted by Egypt and Qatar. Egypt this morning
presented a revised version of US on Voice Steve Whitcoff's
sixty day plan based on the thirteen point framework. Hamas
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had submitted amendments more than three weeks ago to the
previous proposal. Israel never replied, instead withdrawing its team and
threatening to quote conquer all of Gaza. Hamas official told
Reuters Group is approved the proposal, but provided no further details.
That proposal back by Egypt and Qatar calls for a
sixty day halt to military operations and offers a pathway
toward negotiating a comprehensive deal to end the nearly two
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year genocidal war. Israel's response is pending, and I as
far as I know this morning, there hasn't been any
movement on the Israeli side, and so I wouldn't you
know basically what this calls for a sixty day ceasefire
while the further phases are being negotiated out to completely
and the war.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
I haven't had a chance to talk to Jeremy yet,
but personally, I don't feel very helpful that the Israeli
side is going to accept this because they seem hell
bent on their complete ethnic cleansing plan and are you know,
moving forward with effectuating that outcome and putting that into places.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Well, yesterday Trump also had a tweet where he's like,
the only way we'll get rid of the hostages is
the occupation or destruction or whatever of Hamas. But it
is I mean, I don't know. At the same time,
there's long been a theory that the Trump rhetoric or
whatever is about pushing Hamas to continue accepting the ceasefire.
But part of as you and I, because we cover
it at a daily basis, this stuff almost always gets
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to the quote finish line where it's like ninety eight
percent and the Israelis are like, no, you have to
agree to a full and total occupation for all time
and they're like, okay, well, no, we're not going to
do that, and that always just breaks down, yeah, or
the government, I mean, if they actually agreed to it,
it would cause a massive political crisis in Israel. The
government could fall because the Israeli far right ministers are
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against any deal whatsoever. They want full blown occupation line.
It's already what they want. So yeah, it's very questionable
whether we'll actually go forward.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
I mean, we've seen this playbook so many times where
he'll not Nyahu will either. I mean, at this point,
I don't even it seems like they don't even feel
the need to lie anymore and pretend like they're doing
things in good faith. They're like they're acting morally. They
just are all out in the open, mask off with
all of this. But in the past we've seen him
in cert various poison pill provisions, even from the you know,
the deal member back in then when Biden announced We've
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come up with this deal and listed all the provisions
and the Israelis are behind us, et cetera, Amus is like, okay,
we accept, and then Israel inserts all sorts of new
provisions and make sure that it's you know, impossible to
get through. You have, you know, the most psycho members
of the nat Yahu coalition Mitrich and Bengavia, who are
obviously completely opposed any sort of deal. So I think
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it's unlikely it goes forward, but we wanted to make
sure to put the news out there.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
About the latest.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
We also have this as we could put this up
on the screen. There's this leaked audio from the head
of military intelligence on October seventh. This is our friend
Child who breaks it down. He says, it makes it
very clear Israeli policy is to kill tens of thousands
of Palestinians, including children, and ethnically cleanse them. Quote for everything,
this is from that head of military intelligence, for everything
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that happened on October seventh. For every person on October seventh,
fifty Palestinians should die. It does not matter if they
are kids. There is nothing to be done. They need
a knakba every now and then to feel the price.
And Child goes on to say, this is not some
rogue extremist. This is the heart of the Israeli security establishment.
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And this would be the type of person who would
be portrayed by the way as moderate within the Israeli context.
Just so we're all really clear, I think we have
the specific text of what this individual was saying. So
here's what the leaked audio, what the translation says. The
fact that there have already been fifty thousand deaths in
Gaza is necessary and required for future generations. Okay, you humiliated,
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you slaughtered, you murdered.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Everything is true.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
The price I said before the war for everything that
happened on October seventh, for every person, fifty Palestinians should die.
It doesn't matter now, kids, I'm not talking out of revenge.
I'm talking about this as a message for future generations.
There's nothing to be done. They need a knock, but
every now and then to feel the price. There's no
choice in this disturbed neighborhood. There is no choice. So
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lays it out pretty plainly. And by the way, you know,
at this point where we are all the experts who
have looked at this and estimated out and say there's
hundreds of thousands of Palestinians, we don't know the exact
number who have been killed either directly by the fighting
under the rubble, died of malnutrition, of other illnesses, of
you know, not being able to get medical treatment for
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chronic conditions, et cetera. That's where we are at this point.
We can to back that up. We can put E
three up on the screen because this is absolutely shocking.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
If you have any.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Doubt about the extent of the horror and the outright
genocide that's going on here. Look at the fall off
in life expectancy since October seventh, so the darker blue
that you can see there, that just absolutely plummets, a
change in life expectancy of roughly minus thirty five years,
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so thirty five years on average being cut off of
everyone's life in the Gaza strip unbelievable. And you can
see the comparison to other brutal wars in Afghanistan, in Iraq,
in Syria, in Yemen. You know, Syria is the closest comparison,
and it's you know, at its worst life expectance. He
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dropped about twelve years, which again horrifying, horrifying numbers, but
pales in comparison to the scale of the slaughter and
destruction of life in Gaza, where life expectancy has plummeted
by thirty five years. It's just to see it in
that form is just absolutely chilling.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Zagera very grim. We can go to the next part too,
just to show people this. Let's put this. This guy,
by the way, if anybody doesn't remember, is the student
who cried on camera with Mike Johnson about not feeling
safe on campus since.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
His Yeah, I didn't realize this is all lore.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
Al since probably one of the most prominent I would say,
Zionist propaganda guys on Twitter, he says, quote breaking. Israel
is currently in talks with five countries Indonesia, Somala, Land, Uganda,
South Sudan, and Libya about the potential resettlement of Palestinians
from the Gaza strip. Kind of just saying it out loud.
By the way, did anyone notice that like three of
those countries are either failed or shaky governments, which are
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worth more because they're money desperate, you know, for something
not exactly like thriving places that are capable of sustaining
their own population, let alone like I don't know, you know,
millions of people who would be expelled. So, you know,
just think it's kind of important for people to see.
What else am I thinking here? Oh right, this last one.
(42:21):
I can't get over this because it gives the whole
game away. Let's go and put E five on the
screen so they I love how they just say this
shit out loud and admit the game. The IDF is
planning on asking the Jewish diaspora to encourage Jewish youth
to join the IDF due to a severe man power shortage.
(42:42):
So let me just read that again. The IDF says
that they have a severe man power shortage and some
quote estimated at ten to twelve thousand that are missing
right now from idea Franks and because it would be
too shocking to Israeli politics to draft the ultra Orthodox,
who are all on welfare and live off of the Dole.
By the way, the Dole America pays for just in terms,
so people understand, They now say they will need to
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get some six to seven hundred dollars six to seven
hundred additional soldiers each year from Jewish communities abroad, who
added that the United States and France will be the
main targets of the IDF efforts. So basically, the IDF
is saying that the only way that they can sustain
their manpower and gaza is to basically propagandize and ask
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American citizens residents of the United States and of France
to move to their country and to go and serve
in their military, which they know will not result in
them losing US citizenship and also will basically quote deepen
the ties. That's always the way that they talk about it.
Between those two face no consequences, and it's an open
part of their recruitment strategy. Imagine if America was like,
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we don't have enough troops, so we're gonna call on
I mean, actually, there's no parallel, there's no ethnic component
of being a mari across the world. There's no other
country in the world that could do this or get
away with it. I mean, wouldn't people be outraged. Imagine
if Indian Pakistan got into a war and they were like,
we call all Indians of Indian descent to come back
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and to fight. The Germans actually did this, the Nazis did.
I forget what exactly what it was called. They're like
all loyal Germans.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
Very Nazi soil behaved.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Okay, there you go, so all, yeah, what the Nazis
did is that I forget the exact term. It's in German.
But they were like, any loyal German must return to
the fatherland to come and to fight for Hitler at lo.
It wasn't all that successful, just so people were aware.
But that's effectively like the equivalent of what they say.
They're like any Jew who is really patriotic, the conflation
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of Judaism in the state of Israel, which is always sickening.
I mean, just today Natagna who attacked the Prime Minister
of Australia who said that he had abandoned Australia's Jews
because he was willing to recognize the state of Palestine.
That literally just happened this morning.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
There is nothing more anti Semitic than saying every Jew
has associated with this genocidal holocaust, like it's there is
utterly disgusting. But I mean also a part of me
is like listen, if you feel moved to you know,
if you want to put like if you're pro genocide,
you want to go be part of.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
That, go like get out of here.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
But the problem is because they can come back.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
That's the problem because what happened, I mean, then they
come back and they end up the head of censorship
at TikTok or we're working for the New York Times
or any work.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
Somebody protests them an American and then they get investigated
by the dj which is literally happening.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Correct, Yeah, that's that's exactly right. So so yeah, I
can't I can't say that not to mention. I mean,
it's just yeah, it's it's very revealing. Another very revealing
thing that I don't even know what to say about.
I can't even really wrap my head around it. Let's
put the six up on the screen. There was a
Kannesset Special Committee on Foreign Workers that performed an investigation
of the Thai agricultural workers who were are there in
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the state of Israel, and they found that six hundred
and fifty four out of six hundred and fifty four
had reported experiencing sexual assault. One hundred percent of the
tie foreign workers who were there reported being sexually assaulted
as part of this study. Now, they don't typically report
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it to the authorities. One can only presume because first
of all, they're worried about losing their job, losing their status,
don't think they'll be believed, et cetera. But in this
person who finds the same state that markets itself as
a democracy relies on imported farm labor, then terms a
blind eye as sexual violence becomes routine, silenced, and systemic.
So just disgusting abuses here that you know are lurking
(46:40):
under the surface of the society and sometimes not on
the surface.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
I genuinely don't even know what to say about that.
It's crazy, Yes, that's all you can say. I don't
know what's going on over there. It's I mean, it's wild.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
It is really wild to wrap your het around. And
I don't think Israelis, like fundamentally as human beings, are
any different than human beings around, which is why it's
so unsettling when you see these polls that are like, yeah,
they're all for the ethnic cleansing, like even the quote
unquote liberal ones they're down with it. They are you know,
huge numbers are like yes, murder every Palestinian. And You're
(47:17):
just like, how does this happen in a society? And
it's years and years of ideological propagandizing, It's years and
years of complete and total dehuman humanization of Palestinians or
Arabs overall.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
I mean, it's I don't know.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
There need to be studies of what the hell has
gone wrong in this society because it's truly.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
Sick intellectually, and I can understand it because I've read
a lot about it in terms of the I mean,
look at the way that Americans treated the Japanese or
like Japanese Americans, right and not only in terment camps,
but even worse like in terms of the propaganda and
the way that we all looked at the war. And
I'm not even talking about that, I'm not talking just
about the atomic bomb, but really like the way that
(48:00):
they would cheer it and look, I mean, that's not
absolving the literal Japanese War war crimes and like barbaric
behavior for thirteen years in the war, but it's part
of that where you could see how that could happen
in the forties and the fifties, because that's when information
was much more controlled. It's a lot harder to understand
in the year twenty twenty five, in the age of
(48:20):
the smartphone. It actually makes me doubt whether the information
age makes people more informed at all. I actually think
we may all be less informed than ever if you
don't want to be, because if you don't seek things out,
you actually just won't see it. You can see almost
anything of what you want. It's not even controlled by
the government at that point. It's like creating your own
spaces and then nothing can enter that, right, and so
you can actually live in a reality where every child
(48:42):
in Gaza is a you know, is a hamas.
Speaker 3 (48:45):
Reading mind coom from the time that they're two years old.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Right, it's not the FDR people who have to tell
you that. It's like you're all socially reinforcing it and
it kind of bubbles up from the surface. But I
don't know, I mean, it is genuinely a sociological study
of like this is a Western stufle country for you,
or sold itself that way. It's always had weird you know,
little idiosyncrensies. But I've visited there. I'm telling you, if
you go to Tel Aviv, it's did not feel all
(49:09):
that different from Los Angeles. I really, I really want
people to understand that. And so to watch that. I
was there twelve years ago, so to look at that
from there to now, it's shocking. You know, it's shocking
the way that it's all flipped on at it. People
I probably met and spent time with, you know, are
either fighting or supportive.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
You know.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
Yeah, it's crazy. And I see that in their podcast
where they say this stuff in English and they're like,
it makes me happy when I see guys in Starbuck. Yeah, dude,
it's great.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
Those two guys was their podcast called like two Nice
Jewish Boys or something like that, and they're like, it
makes me when I'm watching a soccer football game, it
makes me feel better to know that Palestinians are sufferings.
That heightens the enjoyment of the experience for me. How
fucking I say that? Just sick And you're right, and
I'll actually like it is a hard thing, like emotionally
(50:01):
to grapple with. It's a hard thing to matt because
you think we've evolved and oh, we have these like
progressive values and we try to you know, we don't
live up to it, but we try to be more
tolerant of all different types of people. And we don't
have this like race science that says, oh, no different
races or but they Zionism is built on a supremacist ideology,
on a Jewish supremacist ideology, and I truly think that
(50:23):
that is a cancer. If you have an ideology that
says one group is better, more deserving, gets more rights
than another group, then all sorts of horrors flow directly
from there, because if they're not truly human, you can
do anything too. You can abuse them, you can rape them,
you can murder them, you can starve their children, you
(50:44):
can lie about all of it, and it's that bedrock
ideological foundation that I think allows all of that to flow.
And then the use of religion too makes it extra
ponent because if God is saying, hey, this is like
you're doing the right thing per God, that it provides
this more like moral justification for absolute horrors.
Speaker 3 (51:06):
So it's pretty all right going on.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
Thank you guys so much for watching. We appreciate it.
We'll have a Wednesday show. Tomorrow is I don't even
know what day of the.
Speaker 2 (51:14):
Weekday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (51:16):
Definitely we'll be in.
Speaker 1 (51:18):
Yes, we'll see you on Thursday.
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