September 2, 2025 • 44 mins
Krystal and Saagar discuss Trump health rumors, Israel blocks US Senators from Gaza, leaked docs show Trump Gaza Riviera solution.
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All right, guys, we've come to the most important story
of the day, the questions thwirling around President Trump's health,
So we could go ahead and put these pictures up
on the screen. President Trump has not spoken to in
front of a camera in I believe it's six days.
At this point. We've only caught these glimpses of him
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going to and from his golf courses. Okay, I think
we can all say in both of these photos he
looks like shit. Okay, can we go back to the
first one again? We can see his look on his
face is very brandon esque. It's the mouth a gate.
You can see, you know, the skin is sagging, the
(01:15):
makeup is not properly applied. There's no hair visible. For
some reason, people were like zooming in and enhancing this
in all kinds of ways, like he looks bad here, okay,
and this is basically the only glimpse that we've gotten
of him. Then they said, okay, well he's fine, he's
going golfing. Okay. Well, the press pool that was with
him were kept from being able to see him on
(01:36):
the golf course. They were made to wait on the
tennis course, so they didn't actually get to see any
of him golfing. There are no pictures of him golfing.
This is all we've got, okay. Then they posted photos
of him, put C two up on the screen. They
posted these photos of him, or he posted them on
his true social account. Great playing golf with John Gruden.
(01:57):
Really nice guy in a true character wearing, by the way,
a very similar outfit to the one he wore when
he was allegedly playing golf. This is an old photo.
This was taken on August twenty third, and they seem
to hold it out like this was a new photo.
This is a parsager where this was the first time.
I was like, h maybe there is something going on here.
(02:19):
We can put C three up on the screen. It's
the Newsweek article about some of the series and speculation here.
They mentioned to the week old photo and how that
raised eyebrows amid health speculation. Of course, we already had
those bruising on his hands that he's been trying to
hide and trying to cover up. We all know about
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the cankels and the way that they've been you know,
the way they address that, and the way he's been
trying to hide those cankels as well. So we're already
some swirling speculation. Then he disappears, then we get these
photos where he looks like absolute shit. Then he goes
to the golf course allegedly and there are no photos
have been playing, and they post this week old photo
(03:00):
and claim that this is like, you know, trying to
portray this like a new photo and soccer. There were
other MAGA influencers like Charlie Kirk and the like who
are close with the White House, who were posting other
golf videos that were again I think meant to meant
to portray that these were recent and oh here he
is being viril inactive in all of this that also
were all old. So it's really weird. And then last
(03:23):
night there was a lot of a fever pitch of
speculation because they closed all of the roads around Walter
Reed Hospital. You're in d C. And when I checked
this morning, they were still closed. They turned I saw
one riet and confirm this one the roads closed. I
looked up on Apple Maps and that was true. They
allegedly also turned off one of the highway cameras that
(03:47):
was nearby Walter Reed and the Domino's pizza tracker around
the White House and the Pentagon and Walter Reed. All
was spiking, okay, and we got this news that there
was going to be there's nothing on the president schedule
until two pm when he was making some unspecified announcement.
(04:07):
Now we have since then received word that the announcement
is going to be changing the Department of Defense to
the Department of War, mister anti war, embracing the Department
of War here whatever. So that's supposedly what's happening at
two pm. But what do you think of all of
these happening?
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I think a lot of people are having a lot
of fun on the internet, so let's go there. And
by the way, again, I think it's fine to have fun,
but let's talk about it. So the six days thing
that was the three And by the way, I don't
care if Trump is sick or not. If he was,
I'm sure, of course they should be transparent about it.
He spoke for three and a half hours on camera.
Reagan Reese of The Daily Caller interviewed him for over
an hour and a half on Friday. He's always been
(04:46):
old and frankly unseemly when not in a suit. By
the way, that's the power of the suit. That's why
you should always wear one. Also why you shouldn't wear
a hat, because it's not exactly flattering to the brow line.
But yeah, I mean, just looking at all this stuff,
I think he's probably just as sick as he was
whenever he had the bruises on his hands and his cankles.
So is the White House being fully transparent by his health?
(05:09):
Almost certainly not, especially with the hands. I definitely think
some weird stuff is going on there. But yeah, I
think a lot of people are having too much fun
on the internet, like, for example, I get how the
framing of the golf course, like, oh, well, go the
Preston's se him on the golf course. Guys, wait when
we trump to the golf course. Unfortunately, I was stuck
in a restaurant. I didn't see him once I was
literally in the motorcade. It's pretty much basic standard. When
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the president goes to the golf course on the weekend,
they don't allow the press. In ninety percent of the
time the photos that get release are from the White House.
I do agree with the week old photo stuff and
all that looks quote bad, you know, in the context
of all of this, and I would be happy to
eat my words if it comes out, you know, today
or whatever that he is like, I just don't see it.
I don't see any of this stuff. For example, Okay,
(05:52):
let's put the next one up here.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
It's weird to have no Labor Day events though too.
I don't know if that president. It is weird for
a president is supposed to be like glass.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Blah blah blah, Crystal. He spends all of his time golfing,
and when he was president the first time, every Thursday
flight Tomorrow lago, Sunday night back to Washington.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
But here's here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I just think a lot of this is just fever
pitched like brain DAWs.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Okay, probably, but yeah, you have to admit it's weird. Okay.
There was all this speculation, like I'm gonna say, like Friday,
that he was actually dead. There was all this speculation
online like we haven't seen Trump Trump maybe dead. There
was like video of somebody rolling something out of the
White House. We were like, that was Trump and he's fit.
He in the staff are super online. So what would
(06:38):
like the logical thing to do would be he's on
the go. Look at him taking this swing. Doesn't he
look great? And even if you don't allow the press
to go along and to see that, you release a
current photo that demonstrates that. So you don't have that.
The photos that are of him just like shuffling to
the you know, to the transport looks like Brandon on
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the debate stage, looks like total old man, terrible.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
He always look like this is my point.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
No he doesn't, No, he doesn't, And he doesn't talk
to the press, right, He's always talking to the press.
This man cannot and shut up.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
We haven't heard from.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Days and days that you have to admit, ye, to
go this long without saying ship on a camera is
very very unusual.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
He did an interview on frand look that I sound
like I'm defending Trump, I really am not. I mean,
I think he probably just took labor day off like
everybody else. But I mean, look, he's going to be
on camera in a matter of hours. We'll all see it. Also,
I disagree with you. The Department of War is a
great name, and we have launched more wars of aggression
under the quote Department of Defense than we did on
the Department of Wars, so everybody, well.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I actually think that it is its honest exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
The Department was a dystope name.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
You have to admit that is ironic for mister anti
war to now be like, you know, yes, total department
of What.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Are you supposed to call the Department of Peace? I
mean the Department of War. The point we wage war now, the.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Point isn't what the name of the thing is. The
point is what you're actually doing. And he has been
extremely for a war separate point and that's the number.
Point is the core point anyway.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Point the name is good. No, I'm going to stand
for this. The name is good, all right. It's important
that America be honest about what it actually is the
department that wages war. Since the Department of Defense was established,
we have done nothing but to launch disastrous wars. The
Department of War is a callback to a previous and
more important era where we understood exactly what it is
the Pentagon did.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I don't think that the name is going to change
the terrible policy.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Maybe not now, all right, but but the post I'm
telling you this stuff matters a lot more than people think.
A lot of that was about dystopia, It was about
the establishment of the Empire, about foreign wars abroad. When
we were the Department of War, we were a much
less adventurous country, and we were one that understood the
actual ramifications Congress voted for and more. Do I think
this is.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Going to change any doubt that the name change has
much to do with it.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I think restoring honesty and restoring honesty and clarity in
what exactly these places do is a lot more important
than people think. Stympology does still matter, and the Department
of War was an important part of that.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
So let me put up this next piece, which is
C four. So in addition to all of the things
that we've the photos, the weak old photo being passed
off as current, the fact he looks like absolute Crop,
hasn't spoken to the press, his posts on true Social
or weird they don't sound like him at all in fact,
(09:27):
and I think this is true. I've seen people saying this,
like Gavin Newsom doing his weird Trump impression sounds more
like Trump than these posts. And so one individual ran
his true Social posts through chat GPT and asked for
an analysis of whether or not this sounded like Trump,
and the TLDR here is no, they don't sound like
him at all. This one says, Wow. Mayor Muriel Bowser
(09:49):
of DC has become very popular because she worked with
me and my great people and bringing crime down to
virtually nothing in DC. Her statements and actions were positive
instead of others like Pritzker, Westbourn, scum and blah blah blah. Anyway,
they say that the signature President djt our, memo letter
conventions he almost never uses and posts he says this
thing just some simple facts for people to ponder. Ponder
(10:13):
is not something that he is in his normal register
more likely to say, think, remember, believe, me, et cetera.
So I wouldn't have to go through all he's been
in any case, I think anyone who reads supposed to
be like this doesn't really sound like him. Now he
does have staffers right through social posts.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Actually met another time.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
But again, why are there no signs of life coming
from this man at this point in time when.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
There is a fever speculation camera, he still looks like
he's an eighty year old man. He's morbidly obese, all right,
he's probably either pre diabetic or diabetic. I think you're
probably seeing exactly what is there and has been for years.
For some reason, they just convinced themselves this weekend that
he was dead again. Here's the thing. I support having
fun on the internet. Hillary's ear piece backbrace. I was
(10:54):
there her collapse on nine to eleven. I will never
forget it. Some of the most fun that we ever
had online, truly, some of the most fun. So speculate away,
go for it. I'm just here to be a bit
of a damper and be like, yeah, guys, unfortunately, it's
very common that, you know, to have pictures on the
golf course. He's going to be on camera later today.
By the end of this week, most of the people
(11:15):
indulges are going to look pretty stupid. In general, you
may be vindicated in the way that Brandon posters were
if he eventually does have some sort of Brandon style moment.
It's definitely possible. You know, he can't rule it out.
I mean, I think he's either seventy nine or eighty,
that's just empirically.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, and he's old, and he's eating McDonald's likeake every
day for yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
No, he no longer eats the bun, isn't that right,
or like something like he doesn't eat the butt anymore
or something, which I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I believe that. All right, one more here for you,
One more here for you. Put this up on the screen.
This is weird. I don't know what's going on with this.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Oh, this is a fun one. This is just straight fun.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Right, Okay. They're throwing things out of the White House residence. Yes,
for some reason, we.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Don't know why, at the top floor.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I don't know if this has anything to do with
tru himself, but it's a weird thing that happens.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
It's just here. It's simply just interesting, isn't it. Yeah, Yeah,
I mean that area of the White House is.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Like bulletproof glass too. It's like, I don't know, I
don't know if any of this is true, to be clear,
but I did see some analysis on Twitter about like
it's not like a regular window you can just open
and throw things out.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
I'm like it because I've seen some of those that
area right beneath that is really press gathers. I've actually
seen windows open there before. I know under Obama somebody
fired gunshots with a White House and they discovered bullets
there like a little bit later on. It was like
a huge scandal because it was a secure.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
I remember that failure.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
They weren't there when it happened. They like discovered it
later after they found some bullets and like, hey, what
is this, Like, where did this come from? Anyway? Weird,
It's definitely weird. I agree. So look, everybody continue to
have fun on the internet. But you know, unfortunately there
were a lot of too many people I take seriously
in my life were asking whether a lot of this
was actually real, And of course that's always why you
need some discerning information. Again, at two pm today you
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will have Trump on camera, and every single person can
can look at that.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Fact that We're just like run year after year by
these journey aging falling upon men who are like decomposing
before our eyes is a real sign of empire, like
visual sign.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
I totally agree with that. I think it's one of
the worst things about them. You know, no one's more
anti Boomer than me in terms of their leadership. So
I would personally like to see more people shout out
to Jerry Nadler, who recently said, I'm not running for office.
Biden's degradation showed me that people who stay too long
overstay their welcome and cause serious distress in the system.
(13:36):
As time for me to go. So, you know what,
that's the right thing to do. And I think a
lot more politicians, Democrat and Republican should do the honorable
thing and should get out forever.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Imagine that Trump dies before Biden.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
If Trump dies before Biden, that would be crazy. I mean,
I don't know, wow. I mean, how old is Biden?
He's eighty one. I mean, doesn't he have cancer? He's
got like stage four cancer.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
He's eighty two. Yeah, one last question, what do you think? Okay,
so just indulge. Let's imagine that Trump does die. What
do you think happens with Magath.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Interesting question.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
So obviously Jade Vans would become president.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
And like Theodore Roosevelt, you know, several months into the office,
gets three some years in the White House. I think
that they would be behind him because he credibly he
would have to pull a Johnson. So what Johnson did
in one of my favorite books, The Passage of Power
by Robert Caro, how Johnson took control of the presidency
after the assassination of Kennedy. Obviously, he's different because assassination
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is very different than a natural death in office. But
I'm trying to think when.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
They probably think that he was killed though, when was
the last.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Time psident actually died in office? FDR so, Yeah, I
think it's FDR so under FDR Truman, Yeah, Okay, similar comparison.
You know, I think he died eighty three days into
his fourth term. But what Truman and LBJ credibly had
to do was they had to balance the They had
to balance being president and being in charge and inheriting
(15:01):
a bunch of other people's staff. What Truman in particular
did is he took like over a year to kind
of phase in, you know, his own people, and he
was still dealing with World War Two, but he also
had to make a lot of big decisions, but he
generally deferred to a lot of FDR advisors. LBJ. He
was very I mean he should be right. I mean
he literally didn't know He didn't even know about the
Manhattan Project until FDR died. It's insane, and he used
(15:21):
to drop the bomb some month later or two months
later after he becomes president. Under it would probably more
akin to LBJ, because Kennedy had that whole legacy around him.
So what you do is you're like, I will fulfill
the legacy of Donald Trump, and then you kind of
decide what that legacy is, right because JFK, you know,
he spoke for civil rights, didn't really do anything about it.
LBJ actually gets it done. He spoke for a tax bill.
(15:43):
It was going nowhere. LBJ actually got it done. You
kind of get to decide and build upon that person's legacy,
and at the end of the day, you are president. Right.
So the alternative model would be Theodore Roosevelt who becomes
president after his president dies while he's in office and
goes in a totally different direction because from the force
of his personality turns a presidency and his term into
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something that he never would have imagined, you know, previously
while he was the vice president. I don't think that
can happen because the same cult around Trump kind of
exists around LBJ and FDR. So you would have to
step into the fold, and what you really the most
important thing to do would be to do what LBJ
did is you would credibly have to win not reelection,
but be election, and then you can kind of step
(16:27):
into it and make it of your own. So I
don't really know, but I do think it obviously. I mean,
it's not just chosen successor. You are the vice president,
you're the president. Legally, you're going to inherit the team.
I don't think you would fire anybody. I do think
a lot of stuff would change, actually in terms of
the policy, in terms of the implementation, I think it'll
be a lot higher IQ personally, but I still think
a lot of it would have to be wrapped in
(16:47):
the shroud of MAGA and of Trump, and I do
think MAGA also the fight that would come would be
when he would run for election, so in twenty twenty eight,
that would be especially to you know, on how the
presidency goes and all of that. But yeah, I don't know,
it's an interesting thought experiment. Like so you can go
the Roosevelt way, the Triman way, or the lbjway. Those
(17:08):
are like the different models I have.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah, I mean I just look on a base level,
I think Trump gets away with things that no one
else would and could, and including Jdvance, Like, I just
don't think he has the or to pull off the things.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Underestimating how much people you know when someone dies, especially
like if you provide a hagiography for that person, there's
a lot of differences. They did not attack LBJ for years.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Although I don't I think it's a different era.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
It could be, don't.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I mean, like in the LBJ era, like there's we've
never been in a time period where people are actively
like cheering for the president to be dropping dead, which
is what is happening online right now. Like it is
a different moment. You're going to have people half the
like forty percent of the country, let's say, is going
to be instantly happy that he's gone. Maybe, and that's boy,
that's a different that is a very different dynamic. So
(17:56):
I don't think you get years of hay giography and
deference and what I don't think you get that.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
And well your question was about Maga, not about the country.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah, but you're you know, your analysis is predicated on
the idea that there would be this temper and so
there would be this national hagiography of Trump after he goes.
And I don't really think that'll be the case. I
think the media try, but I think much of the
country will be like it's possible.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I don't know. I mean, the other you know, the
other way we could look at it is Forward taking
over Nixon, which kind of deflates a lot of YEA
energy against him.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
So that's right, mean, but we also have to and
we also have to think about like it's a very
bad time for America and jd. Vance would be dealing
with the economy is not doing well. Yes, wegen these
you know, in this horrible situation you know, of funding
a genocide in Gaza. There's all sorts of structural reasons
why he would feel like he can't really change course
on that without like you know, his coalition falling apart,
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very likely to be drawn back into war, with Iran
still mired in Ukraine, the world united against us, Like
there's a it's a really bad time to be to
have to be to be president and be dealing with
the fallout of the idiocy that Trump has foisted on
this country and on the world too. So you know, I,
like I said, I think Trump gets away with things
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because he has so much He's funny. He just has
off the charts charisma, like you can't deny it. I
hate the man, but that's just facts. Jade Vance is
not that guy, so I think he would struggle to
keep that coalition together. And then of course you already
have like the you know, the gropers and the people
that hate him because his wife is in me and whatever.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Again, I think things would change. I mean if in
a way like I think it might be the worst
thing that ever happened to the left because it could
suck a lot of the enthusiasm out of him. It
could become you know, things could go back to normal, honestly,
relatively quickly, So you really have Look, I don't want
a lot.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Of energy around hating jd Vance and the Petertiel Palenteer
elon Musk tech oligarchs as well.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Purely online the average you know, Normy lib hates Trump
for being uncouth and you know whatever, like they don't
give a shit. And to the extent that they care
about Jad, they're like, he's Trump's little errand boy or whatever.
I mean, they don't know anything about Palanteer. So I
think that's this here.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Is emblematic of the oligarchy and like the billionaire class. Well,
and there's certainly normy reactions.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Well, we'll see, we'll see. Personally, I think that the
left Trump is the best thing for the left right now.
I mean his you know, his like brashness and all
that return to normalcy would nuke them because then they
would Yeah, I don't think that. I think all the
energy would completely be sucked out it. Also, I look,
a lot of it depends on GD A lot of
it depends on the circumstances too, and the timing, Like
early on right now, you're basically the full on president
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for three years. That's what happened to Roosevelt, That's what
happened to Truman. Whereas it's like LBJ, you're running in
the I think so November, Yeah, so he only had
a year. It's number twenty third up until the election.
He only had the last year of the presidency that's
a very different circumstance too. So the point is it's complicated.
If you look broadly around, we'll see I mean, it's
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fun thought experiment, I guess. All right, let's get to Saturers.
Very crazy story coming out of Jordan where two United
States senators were denied the ability to fly over Gaza
despite being in the country of Jordan and would have
been boarded on a Jordanian plane. So here's the video
that they shot. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Jeff Merkley and I are here at the King Abdell
of the second Air Force Base in Jordan. Jeff and
I wanted to go into Gossam to see firsthand the
destruction which we've seen in photographs and by eyewitness testimony,
but we were denied that opportunity to go in on
the ground. We are really hoping for the opportunity to
(21:38):
fly over against to be able to witness firsthand exactly
the scale of destruction in Gaza. So far, we've not
been able to go.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
So far, the senators have not been able to go,
denied the ability to go by the Israeli government, which
is pretty shocking. Again, you know, considering the fact that
the government itself has banned journalist and others from even
participating in flyovers that are dropping AID and that is
one where you know, you just have to ask, well,
what are you covering up exactly? And well we all know,
(22:10):
don't we because there have been enough images of all
of that that have been able to come out. It's
mostly just a serious breach on US sovereignty because it's insane.
It's yeah, exactly, I mean it's crazy, like these are
United States senators in a foreign country. The Jordanian government
has no problem with them going and they're like, no, actually,
because what is that. It's a tasket commission and we
control the skies, it's our territory. Well, it's our country,
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and which just gets all the questions around this of like, well,
why what exactly is going on here? We're not even
allowed to fly and they're oh, Hamas has rockets now
that can shoot us. Come on, like what are we doing?
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:41):
And we know the way they blocked journalists from going
on board these you know, AID drop flights because they
didn't want pictures coming out and they don't want Merkley
and they don't want Van Holland to actually see that
Gaza has been turned into absolute and complete rubble. They
also went to the Ropagate on the Egypt Gaza border,
and he says in this post, he says, on the
(23:03):
other side was Gaza's thriving city of Rafa, home to
two hundred and six seventy thousand. Today we saw it
reduced to rubble. The net Nahoo government has gone beyond
targeting Hamasta, waging a war of destruction against all Palestinians.
It must end. And we all remember when everybody's posting
all all lies on Rafa, right, we all remember that.
We all remember the Biden administration saying going into Rafa
(23:24):
is a red line, because remember what the Israelis did.
They pushed the entire population of Gaza further and further
and further south, Rafa being the southernmost city, and just
obliterated in their path, squeezed everybody down into the southern
part of the Gaza strip. And then they went in
and annihilated Rafa as well. And Rafa has been reduced
(23:45):
to rubble as we speak, we can put D three
up on the screen. You know, there is a just
absolute onslaught happening in and around Gaza city. This is
from yesterday. According to Middle East I and this was
information from Gaza's health ministry, they said that Israeli killed
at least ninety eight Palestinians in Goza in the last
twenty four hours. During the same period, four hundred and
(24:07):
four others were wounded. A number of these Palestinians who
were murdered by the IDF were out seeking aid. A
number of other ones I believe eight of them died
because of starvation. So it is absolutely as brutal and
as dire as it has ever been in this war.
I saw numbers that even if you use which most
(24:27):
I mean all experts say at this point like the
official numbers are dramatic undercount. If you can consider people
are dying of malnutrition and disease and lack of sanitation,
and you know who are buried under the rubble and
unaccounted for, etc. It's a dramatic undercount. But even if
we take that official count, that means that ten percent
of the population of the Gaza strip has ever either
(24:49):
been killed or injured. There is really no analogous situation
in modern history ten percent of an entire population that
has either been killed or injured, and you know, we're
still here backing the whole thing and putting up plans
for you know, official ethnic cleansing, which we'll get to
in the next segment.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Yeah, it's really sickening. Let's go ahead and put the
next part up here on the screen, please, just so
we can show at least some of it. I mean,
it really is sickening. Actually some of the video that
has been coming out at the very least of like
what is even available you know, warning obviously if you're
watching this, and some sensitive stuff, but this is the
(25:29):
least amount from what we've been able to see that
remains there. And it demonstrates why a lot of the
campaign against journalists and against these senators is happening is
to basically keep it so that only the on the
ground images are the ones that are able to be disseminated,
and there's no journalists, there's nobody even really verifying or
(25:51):
plotting or telling people what exactly is going on. So yeah,
I think it is actually very interesting from the point
of how much longer this can continue in terms of
public and US support, Like that's the big question is
at a certain point, even the pro Israel defenders and
(26:13):
we'll talk about this soon the people in Israel, the IDF,
who can we all agree is not like some bleeding
heart liberals and all them are like, guys, this is
doing nothing like it is basically killing for the sake
of it and expulsion in conjunction with this like crazy
plan of the far most far right ministers of the
Israeli government. It's a question both for them politically, you know,
(26:35):
at a constituent level, because it's true, basically Israel either
de facto supports this or you know, supports this all out.
But it's also a question of like America here where
even with the limited amount of images, the amount of control,
and the lack of support, that they're just going for
it in a way that strategically doesn't make a lot
of sense if you plan for a continuation, or maybe
(26:57):
it does, because they're like, this is it. We're just
going to get it done now. It's the only time
that we'll ever have the opportunity. So don't I don't
really know, you know, how else to square it, because
that seems to be what they think, Well.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
We have, we have the plan. We'll talk about in
the next block of what they intend to do. They're
using GHF basically as shaping operations to push everybody again
to the South and you know, be able to push
people to you know, to self deport. We'll say, just
breezen plans for ethnic cleansing and then create some you know,
development haven for for Trump and his cronies to cash
(27:29):
in on his utterly disgusting and stage capitalism kind of stuff.
Let's put D five up on the screen because it's
also unbelievable how rogue Israelists they assassinated Yemen's prime minister
and their entire cabinet. And this is from Code Pink.
They say Western impunity means Israel can kill entire government
cabinets of sovereign countries and commit genocide without the world
(27:52):
batting in eyelid. It goes without saying, imagine that the
houthis assassinated net Yahoo and Smoke Church and Benkevie. What
do you think the reaction would be? And yet they
operate in such a rogue and lawless manner with absolute
impunity and zero accountability with us when they're indicted for
(28:14):
war crimes, sanctioning the ICC for daring to sanction them
to you know, indict them for war crimes just absolute impunity.
It is insane what this country is doing, the number
of countries they bomb, the number of war crimes they've committed. Obviously,
what's happening in Gaza, what they're doing in the West Bank,
(28:35):
what they're announcing, and they're once again saying, we're going
to cut off aid to northern Gaza because we, you know,
believe anyone who's left there, we're just going to assume
that they're a terrorist, so we're going to try to
starve them to death. This is all announced and out
in the open, and yet our country is, you know,
just going along with it. And ultimately, we know other
(28:57):
nations around the world with any power to do anything,
are really doing anything. Listen, the recognition of Pali sine. Okay, fine,
but that is not going to change the situation right now,
and Israel truly is going for it. In that interview
that you mentioned that Trump did give to a print
reporter on Friday, he was asked about Israel. Can put
D four up on the screen to show you part
(29:18):
of his answer. So he was asked this question about, like, hey,
do you see that some young Republicans even now are
moving away from Israel? And what do you make of that?
Are you aware of it? And he says, yeah, I'm
aware of it. So Israel is amazing because you know,
I have good support from Israel. But when if you
go back twenty years, I mean, I will tell you,
Israel had the strongest lobby in Congress of anything or body,
(29:39):
or of any company or corporation or state that I've
ever seen. Israel was the strongest. Today it doesn't have
that strong lobby. It's amazing. I think we have more
from this interview we can go to. He says there
was a time where he couldn't speak bad if you
wanted to be a politician, you couldn't speak badly. But
today you have, you know, AOC plus three and you
have all these loot and they've really changed it. So
(30:02):
they're gonna have to get that war over with. But
it is hurting Israel, There's no question about it. They
may be winning the war, but they're not winning the
world of public relations, you know, and it is hurting them.
So some interesting commons similar to things and that he's
actually said in the past about the Israel lobby, and.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
I mean yes and no, he's like said that stuff
before on Israel. He just reverts to this like, you know,
template answer, what about October seventh he did or what.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
It's just it's like no one has done more for
Israel than I have.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
True, I guess truely true. Yeah, I don't know. I mean,
there is mystif the people around Trump, many others, even
in the Republican movement, are mystified at his deference to Israel.
It does not exist with any other state. Nobody really
knows why. We can all speculate. We certainly have here
(30:51):
on the show if variety of ideology, money, who knows,
you know what else that female some people are saying,
some people are so many people are saying that it
could be. But regardless they have, he has an exception
to them that does not exist for literally anyone else.
And it is exceptional because it stands so stark to
(31:12):
how he treats every single other country in the world.
And it's what's actually remarkable is that Trump's thing about
being independent was he always different than other Republicans, even
if he would do many of the same things. But
on Israel he seems exactly the same. It's just like
Mike Johnson, He's just like all the others He's just
like all the you know, like everyone else. And it's
the one area where I think people can credibly be like, dude,
(31:32):
you are, you know, like you're just not different in
any way. If anything, you're the most you know, fervorent
like Backer, They're off the Israel lobby. So I think
that is probably the area which has been most disillusioning,
you know, for a lot of the so called like
podcast Young right and all these other people, because they
don't like Israel, you know, and they're not subjected to
the same level of propaganda that a lot of these
(31:54):
other people are. I don't know, I just I'll never
understand it, I truly won't.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I mean, I think part of what he gives up there,
I mean, first of all, I think the blackmail thing
is like a real life possibility, and even if he
doesn't know specifically, he is probably somewhat afraid of them
and what they might have on him. And we know
that they've like threatened, you know, Ryan's reporting about it
threatened Bill Clinton, so we can't put that past them
at all. But he also says something there that he's like,
I have a lot of support there, I mean, and
(32:20):
that's part of how he thinks too. He's like Mary
Meddlson gave me a one hundred million dollars and I'm
going to do what she wants me to do. I'm
going to do what they want me to do because
they really support me. And you know, there is a
large constituency in the Republican Party that is just they're
still majority overwhelmingly pro Israel. So he's looking at where
his bread is buttered, and it doesn't you know, that's
certainly a part of the calculation of the way that
(32:42):
he views the world, Saber. This will transition us to
the next piece. I think he also is enamored with
the real estate developer possibilities of the Gaza strafinitely.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Yeah, that's right. All right, let's get to that, shall we,
Because this, you know, we both were going through the
post war playing the PowerPoint which remarkably are actually out
in the open, and it's actually insane. Let's go and
put this up here on the screen. This was from
the Washington Post. Gaza post war plan envisions quote voluntary
relocation of the entire population. It's called the Great Trust
(33:17):
from a demolished Iranian proxy to a prosperous Abrahamic ally,
let's stick with that. It's the Gaza Reconstruction, economic Acceleration, Transformation,
or Great as they are calling it. You can actually
look at the prospectus. It's linked there. It's completely public.
It quote envisions a temporary relocation of all of Gaza's
(33:39):
more than two million population through what it calls voluntary
departure to another country or into restricted, secured zones inside
the enclave during reconstruction. It would be financed, it says,
by various shady entities. And I think the most important
here part here is that it would entail basically the
(33:59):
United States being responsible for this. Much of the financial
planning has been done by Boston Consulting Group. So this
is like inclusion of all the worst of America.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
And they themselves, by the way, for the lawyers anyway.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
But yeah, for the lawyers, you know, they've put out
a statement, etc. But at the very least, this is
a classic Jared Kushner style, which I mean, look, he
even said it right over a year ago. He was like, oh,
some of the best real estate in the world. And
I do think that they are genuinely like enamored by
what you said of the riviera of the Middle East.
But the most appealing part to Trump is that quote
(34:34):
it requires no US government funding and other significant profit
to investors. Instead, what it would do is use private
US security contractors to distribute food in four gods and
locations like with the GHF, which is de facto under
Israeli control, and it would be financed by public and
private sector investment for mega projects from electric vehicle plants,
(34:55):
data centers, beach resorts, and high rise apartments. Now, obviously,
I think the question of like who gets to live
there seems to be pretty important, And like the GHF,
what we have basically seen is this private quasi force
which includes and is funded by the United States by
the Israeli government. What we know from GJF whistleblower Anthony
Aguilar is that the Israelies were the quote client, and
(35:17):
we're effectively the ones running this. And if the two
million people lead and you build this great resort for
who's it for? Is it for these rag leis? So
it's a US funded development resort, Disneyland project so that
people in Tel Aviv can come to the beach. Like
what are we talking about here? Yeah, that's why it's
I mean, you know, disaster capitalism does not even capture
(35:38):
what Elvis is. This is dark.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
This is like the end stage of genocide on behalf
of development.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
It reminds me of that show, the Amazon Prime show
about if the Nazis won the war. I'm totally bladed
to Oh that's what it is. It's like New Ye.
It's like, oh, what New York would look like if
the Nazis had won. It's like bullet and you know,
super fast Concord aircraft. And then people are driving through
the Midwest and there's ashes and they're like, oh, yeah,
it's start for the hospital to burn the bodies. You're like,
(36:09):
uh what, Yeah, But I mean that's kind of the
technological future that they envision. So it's I mean, I'm
I won't go that far. It's not as bad, budd It's.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Like, again, we're talking about committing a genocide and an
ethnic cleansing so we can clean clean down a population
so that Trump and Kushner and his buddies can make
millions on a real estate deal. That's what we're talking
I mean, And I have to say, the way this
article sets it up, like to not use any of
(36:39):
that any language around that is also really a disgrace
when it's all laid out in the open. The mechanics
of how they described this too are utterly horrifying. First
of all, the envision GHF the Gods of Humanitarian Foundation
that Tony Aguilar has been blowing the whistle on a
bunch of paid a marria and mercenary thugs who are
(37:01):
apparently comfortable with murdering children as they seek aid. They're
central to this plan. They lay out the different phases,
and phase number one they call it humanitarian operations. Israel
fights to dismantle hamas GHF provides hamas free, secure aid
and temporary housing. They operate under humanitarian mandate to secure
(37:24):
humanitarian operations in personnel. That's what they claim JHF is doing.
In the next phase, the Great Trust is created, GHF
folds under the Great Trust and they're used. So I
want you guys to understand too that this connects directly
to what's happening on the ground right now with GHF.
And this again is what Anthony Aguilar said. He said,
(37:44):
these aren't this is not an aid operation. These are
shaping operations. What are the shaping operations meant to enable this?
Is it to lure the population, to force them through
starvation into certain parts of the strip. Right now, once again,
the IDF in bombing the helen of Gaza City by
the way, attacking people who are trying to flee, trying
(38:05):
to follow the orders. And they're still attacking and murdering
these people who are trying to do what they're told
by the IDF they have to do. But in any case,
they are part and parcel of this plan to fully
get rid of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip and create
this Trump Riviera Gaza situation, absolute insanity. And they talk
(38:27):
in the cold language of the you know BCG consultants
in this PowerPoint about how much more cost effective it
will be if they can lure more Gazans to completely
live leave the strip. We'll save thirty thousand dollars for
each person Palestinian that we lure to go to you know,
(38:48):
whatever country, Somaliland or whatever country agrees to ultimately take them.
That's the way this is all laid down. And I
really there's something about the combination of this corporate speek
real estate development PowerPoint when you know, like we showed
you the images of we know what is happening on
the ground. We know the way that humans are being
(39:11):
murdered and children destroyed and limbs amputated, and the level
of trauma and the complete destruction of like this was
a real place with schools and hospitals and churches and
moss and community and family and cemeteries and life and
culture and all of this, and you're just clearing it
aside so Trump can build a fucking beachside hotel. Like
(39:33):
it's sick. It is absolutely sick. And the fact that
it happens out in the open, that we can see
the documents and the plans are announced and it just
unfolds like it blows. It truly does blow my mind.
It really does blow my mind.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Yeah, let's put E four up on the screen because
I think what's important to also note is how explicit
the current campaign in Gaza City is with what this
aim is as a posed to the ostensible well, because
if you listen to Scott Jennings on c really, what
about the hostages, what about the hostages? All of the
Security Cabinet, all of the IDF told Netanyahu any Gaza
(40:14):
City takeover will not defeat Hamas, and they are begging
for him to accept the quote limited hostage deal which
has been on the table, the Wick Cough proposal for
what like two weeks three weeks now that has been
accepted by Hamas. They say, no, we're not going to
do that. Instead, pushing out and taking over Gaza City
is what eradication, destruction and the creation of the zone.
(40:38):
So the Equin eventually annexit and create the Gaza Riviera,
which by the way, they don't have to pay for
because of course why would they have to pay for it,
even though they broke all of it, all of it
out they want America to pay for in the UAE
and all these other countries, and then to use the
full might of the Empire to actually force this expulsion
and then pay for in quasi finance the development of
a Disneyland for Israelis. I mean, it's pretty insane, sickening,
(41:00):
but that's the only way that you can actually make
this all makes sense, especially in the context of they've
been threatening what they have been threatening, the current official
annexation of the West Bank, not that they obviously don't
occupy it now, and then the Greater Israel project is
in full force, except by this time it's paid for
(41:20):
by the US taxpayer finance for the US dollar. That's
the really sick and insane part of it.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Yeah, and there's a put E two up on the
skik screen. There happens to be a crypto scam. Also
at the heart of this, I mean, just to put
the most modern dystopian spin on it, possible, those who
those Palestinians who own land will be offered a digital
token by the trust in exchange for rights to redevelop
their property, or they'll be offered that how kind of them,
They'll get a digital token for their land that they
(41:46):
have had in their family for generations. Unbelievable. And then
you know, as this is happening and unfolding again in
front of our eyes, you can put E three up
on the screen. You have the foremost association of scholars
of genocide who just voted overwhelming land that it was
eighty six percent or something to say yes, it's a genocide,
and they join the They joined the view of the
(42:08):
provisional ruling of the ICJ. They joined the view of
other scholars around the world, of Amnesty International, of Betsalum,
of all sorts of international human rights organizations like Soccer
doesn't use that term, so we'll put him aside. But
for those who embrace this term and think that it
means something and think that it should apply in certain situations,
(42:31):
there is a consensus now and it is no longer
a question.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
I wouldn't deny that within the confines of the term,
that doesn't.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
I know, I know, I know, And that's what I'm Yeah,
that's what I'm for sure.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
And look, I mean and this is part of why
where Netta Yaho, This is part of why, because it
all gets you know, wrapped in I think Netanya who
goes on pvds of course all recognize the Armenian genocide, right,
and it's like, so the Armenian genocide was a genocide
and it was a mass murder, but this one is not.
And so then it gets all this tedious genocide you know,
oh this, and that it goes back. I've talked about
(43:00):
this from nineteen forty eight, the genocide convention. It was
literally a term made up by a Polish writer in
the nineteen forties. It was basically meant to invoke like
a post World War two doctrinate a quote unquote never again.
Even though by its own terms it's obviously happened over
and over again. That's probably why I reject the term.
I think mass murders fine, and because I think that
in general, if you operate based on American interest, or
(43:21):
if most countries do, then they a lot of these
things won't happen. The only reason this stuff like this
even does happen is because this slavish devotion that we
have over at Israel, if it was treated like a
normal state, they were no rekilling nobody. And if other people,
if Western style democracies and others, really lived up to
their My point is just that nobody ever actually lives
up to this human rights style rhetoric because it's bullshit
(43:43):
and it's just fake law created post World War two
to make America feel good about itself, even though we
have and many other countries have perpetuated horrific disasters point them.
But yes, within that framework, of course, I would deny
it at all.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Yeah, No, I mean it's undeniable at this point of
the population again either murdered or injured, and they're actively
announcing their eth and cleansing plans, like what are we
doing here? If you're still in denial of that? All right, guys,
rather than doing the hard turn to the US Open controversy.
We've talked for a really long time about a number
of these topics, so we're just going to cut the
show and go ahead and try to get it out
(44:17):
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All right, guys, we've come to the most important story
of the day, the questions thwirling around President Trump's health,
So we could go ahead and put these pictures up
on the screen. President Trump has not spoken to in
front of a camera in I believe it's six days.
At this point. We've only caught these glimpses of him
(00:55):
going to and from his golf courses. Okay, I think
we can all say in both of these photos he
looks like shit. Okay, can we go back to the
first one again? We can see his look on his
face is very brandon esque. It's the mouth a gate.
You can see, you know, the skin is sagging, the
(01:15):
makeup is not properly applied. There's no hair visible. For
some reason, people were like zooming in and enhancing this
in all kinds of ways, like he looks bad here, okay,
and this is basically the only glimpse that we've gotten
of him. Then they said, okay, well he's fine, he's
going golfing. Okay. Well, the press pool that was with
him were kept from being able to see him on
(01:36):
the golf course. They were made to wait on the
tennis course, so they didn't actually get to see any
of him golfing. There are no pictures of him golfing.
This is all we've got, okay. Then they posted photos
of him, put C two up on the screen. They
posted these photos of him, or he posted them on
his true social account. Great playing golf with John Gruden.
(01:57):
Really nice guy in a true character wearing, by the way,
a very similar outfit to the one he wore when
he was allegedly playing golf. This is an old photo.
This was taken on August twenty third, and they seem
to hold it out like this was a new photo.
This is a parsager where this was the first time.
I was like, h maybe there is something going on here.
(02:19):
We can put C three up on the screen. It's
the Newsweek article about some of the series and speculation here.
They mentioned to the week old photo and how that
raised eyebrows amid health speculation. Of course, we already had
those bruising on his hands that he's been trying to
hide and trying to cover up. We all know about
(02:40):
the cankels and the way that they've been you know,
the way they address that, and the way he's been
trying to hide those cankels as well. So we're already
some swirling speculation. Then he disappears, then we get these
photos where he looks like absolute shit. Then he goes
to the golf course allegedly and there are no photos
have been playing, and they post this week old photo
(03:00):
and claim that this is like, you know, trying to
portray this like a new photo and soccer. There were
other MAGA influencers like Charlie Kirk and the like who
are close with the White House, who were posting other
golf videos that were again I think meant to meant
to portray that these were recent and oh here he
is being viril inactive in all of this that also
were all old. So it's really weird. And then last
(03:23):
night there was a lot of a fever pitch of
speculation because they closed all of the roads around Walter
Reed Hospital. You're in d C. And when I checked
this morning, they were still closed. They turned I saw
one riet and confirm this one the roads closed. I
looked up on Apple Maps and that was true. They
allegedly also turned off one of the highway cameras that
(03:47):
was nearby Walter Reed and the Domino's pizza tracker around
the White House and the Pentagon and Walter Reed. All
was spiking, okay, and we got this news that there
was going to be there's nothing on the president schedule
until two pm when he was making some unspecified announcement.
(04:07):
Now we have since then received word that the announcement
is going to be changing the Department of Defense to
the Department of War, mister anti war, embracing the Department
of War here whatever. So that's supposedly what's happening at
two pm. But what do you think of all of
these happening?
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I think a lot of people are having a lot
of fun on the internet, so let's go there. And
by the way, again, I think it's fine to have fun,
but let's talk about it. So the six days thing
that was the three And by the way, I don't
care if Trump is sick or not. If he was,
I'm sure, of course they should be transparent about it.
He spoke for three and a half hours on camera.
Reagan Reese of The Daily Caller interviewed him for over
an hour and a half on Friday. He's always been
(04:46):
old and frankly unseemly when not in a suit. By
the way, that's the power of the suit. That's why
you should always wear one. Also why you shouldn't wear
a hat, because it's not exactly flattering to the brow line.
But yeah, I mean, just looking at all this stuff,
I think he's probably just as sick as he was
whenever he had the bruises on his hands and his cankles.
So is the White House being fully transparent by his health?
(05:09):
Almost certainly not, especially with the hands. I definitely think
some weird stuff is going on there. But yeah, I
think a lot of people are having too much fun
on the internet, like, for example, I get how the
framing of the golf course, like, oh, well, go the
Preston's se him on the golf course. Guys, wait when
we trump to the golf course. Unfortunately, I was stuck
in a restaurant. I didn't see him once I was
literally in the motorcade. It's pretty much basic standard. When
(05:31):
the president goes to the golf course on the weekend,
they don't allow the press. In ninety percent of the
time the photos that get release are from the White House.
I do agree with the week old photo stuff and
all that looks quote bad, you know, in the context
of all of this, and I would be happy to
eat my words if it comes out, you know, today
or whatever that he is like, I just don't see it.
I don't see any of this stuff. For example, Okay,
(05:52):
let's put the next one up here.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
It's weird to have no Labor Day events though too.
I don't know if that president. It is weird for
a president is supposed to be like glass.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Blah blah blah, Crystal. He spends all of his time golfing,
and when he was president the first time, every Thursday
flight Tomorrow lago, Sunday night back to Washington.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
But here's here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I just think a lot of this is just fever
pitched like brain DAWs.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Okay, probably, but yeah, you have to admit it's weird. Okay.
There was all this speculation, like I'm gonna say, like Friday,
that he was actually dead. There was all this speculation
online like we haven't seen Trump Trump maybe dead. There
was like video of somebody rolling something out of the
White House. We were like, that was Trump and he's fit.
He in the staff are super online. So what would
(06:38):
like the logical thing to do would be he's on
the go. Look at him taking this swing. Doesn't he
look great? And even if you don't allow the press
to go along and to see that, you release a
current photo that demonstrates that. So you don't have that.
The photos that are of him just like shuffling to
the you know, to the transport looks like Brandon on
(07:01):
the debate stage, looks like total old man, terrible.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
He always look like this is my point.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
No he doesn't, No, he doesn't, And he doesn't talk
to the press, right, He's always talking to the press.
This man cannot and shut up.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
We haven't heard from.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Days and days that you have to admit, ye, to
go this long without saying ship on a camera is
very very unusual.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
He did an interview on frand look that I sound
like I'm defending Trump, I really am not. I mean,
I think he probably just took labor day off like
everybody else. But I mean, look, he's going to be
on camera in a matter of hours. We'll all see it. Also,
I disagree with you. The Department of War is a
great name, and we have launched more wars of aggression
under the quote Department of Defense than we did on
the Department of Wars, so everybody, well.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I actually think that it is its honest exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
The Department was a dystope name.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
You have to admit that is ironic for mister anti
war to now be like, you know, yes, total department
of What.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Are you supposed to call the Department of Peace? I
mean the Department of War. The point we wage war now, the.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Point isn't what the name of the thing is. The
point is what you're actually doing. And he has been
extremely for a war separate point and that's the number.
Point is the core point anyway.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Point the name is good. No, I'm going to stand
for this. The name is good, all right. It's important
that America be honest about what it actually is the
department that wages war. Since the Department of Defense was established,
we have done nothing but to launch disastrous wars. The
Department of War is a callback to a previous and
more important era where we understood exactly what it is
the Pentagon did.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I don't think that the name is going to change
the terrible policy.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Maybe not now, all right, but but the post I'm
telling you this stuff matters a lot more than people think.
A lot of that was about dystopia, It was about
the establishment of the Empire, about foreign wars abroad. When
we were the Department of War, we were a much
less adventurous country, and we were one that understood the
actual ramifications Congress voted for and more. Do I think
this is.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Going to change any doubt that the name change has
much to do with it.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I think restoring honesty and restoring honesty and clarity in
what exactly these places do is a lot more important
than people think. Stympology does still matter, and the Department
of War was an important part of that.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
So let me put up this next piece, which is
C four. So in addition to all of the things
that we've the photos, the weak old photo being passed
off as current, the fact he looks like absolute Crop,
hasn't spoken to the press, his posts on true Social
or weird they don't sound like him at all in fact,
(09:27):
and I think this is true. I've seen people saying this,
like Gavin Newsom doing his weird Trump impression sounds more
like Trump than these posts. And so one individual ran
his true Social posts through chat GPT and asked for
an analysis of whether or not this sounded like Trump,
and the TLDR here is no, they don't sound like
him at all. This one says, Wow. Mayor Muriel Bowser
(09:49):
of DC has become very popular because she worked with
me and my great people and bringing crime down to
virtually nothing in DC. Her statements and actions were positive
instead of others like Pritzker, Westbourn, scum and blah blah blah. Anyway,
they say that the signature President djt our, memo letter
conventions he almost never uses and posts he says this
thing just some simple facts for people to ponder. Ponder
(10:13):
is not something that he is in his normal register
more likely to say, think, remember, believe, me, et cetera.
So I wouldn't have to go through all he's been
in any case, I think anyone who reads supposed to
be like this doesn't really sound like him. Now he
does have staffers right through social posts.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Actually met another time.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
But again, why are there no signs of life coming
from this man at this point in time when.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
There is a fever speculation camera, he still looks like
he's an eighty year old man. He's morbidly obese, all right,
he's probably either pre diabetic or diabetic. I think you're
probably seeing exactly what is there and has been for years.
For some reason, they just convinced themselves this weekend that
he was dead again. Here's the thing. I support having
fun on the internet. Hillary's ear piece backbrace. I was
(10:54):
there her collapse on nine to eleven. I will never
forget it. Some of the most fun that we ever
had online, truly, some of the most fun. So speculate away,
go for it. I'm just here to be a bit
of a damper and be like, yeah, guys, unfortunately, it's
very common that, you know, to have pictures on the
golf course. He's going to be on camera later today.
By the end of this week, most of the people
(11:15):
indulges are going to look pretty stupid. In general, you
may be vindicated in the way that Brandon posters were
if he eventually does have some sort of Brandon style moment.
It's definitely possible. You know, he can't rule it out.
I mean, I think he's either seventy nine or eighty,
that's just empirically.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, and he's old, and he's eating McDonald's likeake every
day for yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
No, he no longer eats the bun, isn't that right,
or like something like he doesn't eat the butt anymore
or something, which I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I believe that. All right, one more here for you,
One more here for you. Put this up on the screen.
This is weird. I don't know what's going on with this.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Oh, this is a fun one. This is just straight fun.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Right, Okay. They're throwing things out of the White House residence. Yes,
for some reason, we.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Don't know why, at the top floor.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I don't know if this has anything to do with
tru himself, but it's a weird thing that happens.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
It's just here. It's simply just interesting, isn't it. Yeah, Yeah,
I mean that area of the White House is.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Like bulletproof glass too. It's like, I don't know, I
don't know if any of this is true, to be clear,
but I did see some analysis on Twitter about like
it's not like a regular window you can just open
and throw things out.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
I'm like it because I've seen some of those that
area right beneath that is really press gathers. I've actually
seen windows open there before. I know under Obama somebody
fired gunshots with a White House and they discovered bullets
there like a little bit later on. It was like
a huge scandal because it was a secure.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
I remember that failure.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
They weren't there when it happened. They like discovered it
later after they found some bullets and like, hey, what
is this, Like, where did this come from? Anyway? Weird,
It's definitely weird. I agree. So look, everybody continue to
have fun on the internet. But you know, unfortunately there
were a lot of too many people I take seriously
in my life were asking whether a lot of this
was actually real, And of course that's always why you
need some discerning information. Again, at two pm today you
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will have Trump on camera, and every single person can
can look at that.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Fact that We're just like run year after year by
these journey aging falling upon men who are like decomposing
before our eyes is a real sign of empire, like
visual sign.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
I totally agree with that. I think it's one of
the worst things about them. You know, no one's more
anti Boomer than me in terms of their leadership. So
I would personally like to see more people shout out
to Jerry Nadler, who recently said, I'm not running for office.
Biden's degradation showed me that people who stay too long
overstay their welcome and cause serious distress in the system.
(13:36):
As time for me to go. So, you know what,
that's the right thing to do. And I think a
lot more politicians, Democrat and Republican should do the honorable
thing and should get out forever.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Imagine that Trump dies before Biden.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
If Trump dies before Biden, that would be crazy. I mean,
I don't know, wow. I mean, how old is Biden?
He's eighty one. I mean, doesn't he have cancer? He's
got like stage four cancer.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
He's eighty two. Yeah, one last question, what do you think? Okay,
so just indulge. Let's imagine that Trump does die. What
do you think happens with Magath.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Interesting question.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
So obviously Jade Vans would become president.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
And like Theodore Roosevelt, you know, several months into the office,
gets three some years in the White House. I think
that they would be behind him because he credibly he
would have to pull a Johnson. So what Johnson did
in one of my favorite books, The Passage of Power
by Robert Caro, how Johnson took control of the presidency
after the assassination of Kennedy. Obviously, he's different because assassination
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is very different than a natural death in office. But
I'm trying to think when.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
They probably think that he was killed though, when was
the last.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Time psident actually died in office? FDR so, Yeah, I
think it's FDR so under FDR Truman, Yeah, Okay, similar comparison.
You know, I think he died eighty three days into
his fourth term. But what Truman and LBJ credibly had
to do was they had to balance the They had
to balance being president and being in charge and inheriting
(15:01):
a bunch of other people's staff. What Truman in particular
did is he took like over a year to kind
of phase in, you know, his own people, and he
was still dealing with World War Two, but he also
had to make a lot of big decisions, but he
generally deferred to a lot of FDR advisors. LBJ. He
was very I mean he should be right. I mean
he literally didn't know He didn't even know about the
Manhattan Project until FDR died. It's insane, and he used
(15:21):
to drop the bomb some month later or two months
later after he becomes president. Under it would probably more
akin to LBJ, because Kennedy had that whole legacy around him.
So what you do is you're like, I will fulfill
the legacy of Donald Trump, and then you kind of
decide what that legacy is, right because JFK, you know,
he spoke for civil rights, didn't really do anything about it.
LBJ actually gets it done. He spoke for a tax bill.
(15:43):
It was going nowhere. LBJ actually got it done. You
kind of get to decide and build upon that person's legacy,
and at the end of the day, you are president. Right.
So the alternative model would be Theodore Roosevelt who becomes
president after his president dies while he's in office and
goes in a totally different direction because from the force
of his personality turns a presidency and his term into
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something that he never would have imagined, you know, previously
while he was the vice president. I don't think that
can happen because the same cult around Trump kind of
exists around LBJ and FDR. So you would have to
step into the fold, and what you really the most
important thing to do would be to do what LBJ
did is you would credibly have to win not reelection,
but be election, and then you can kind of step
(16:27):
into it and make it of your own. So I
don't really know, but I do think it obviously. I mean,
it's not just chosen successor. You are the vice president,
you're the president. Legally, you're going to inherit the team.
I don't think you would fire anybody. I do think
a lot of stuff would change, actually in terms of
the policy, in terms of the implementation, I think it'll
be a lot higher IQ personally, but I still think
a lot of it would have to be wrapped in
(16:47):
the shroud of MAGA and of Trump, and I do
think MAGA also the fight that would come would be
when he would run for election, so in twenty twenty eight,
that would be especially to you know, on how the
presidency goes and all of that. But yeah, I don't know,
it's an interesting thought experiment. Like so you can go
the Roosevelt way, the Triman way, or the lbjway. Those
(17:08):
are like the different models I have.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah, I mean I just look on a base level,
I think Trump gets away with things that no one
else would and could, and including Jdvance, Like, I just
don't think he has the or to pull off the things.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Underestimating how much people you know when someone dies, especially
like if you provide a hagiography for that person, there's
a lot of differences. They did not attack LBJ for years.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Although I don't I think it's a different era.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
It could be, don't.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I mean, like in the LBJ era, like there's we've
never been in a time period where people are actively
like cheering for the president to be dropping dead, which
is what is happening online right now. Like it is
a different moment. You're going to have people half the
like forty percent of the country, let's say, is going
to be instantly happy that he's gone. Maybe, and that's boy,
that's a different that is a very different dynamic. So
(17:56):
I don't think you get years of hay giography and
deference and what I don't think you get that.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
And well your question was about Maga, not about the country.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah, but you're you know, your analysis is predicated on
the idea that there would be this temper and so
there would be this national hagiography of Trump after he goes.
And I don't really think that'll be the case. I
think the media try, but I think much of the
country will be like it's possible.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I don't know. I mean, the other you know, the
other way we could look at it is Forward taking
over Nixon, which kind of deflates a lot of YEA
energy against him.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
So that's right, mean, but we also have to and
we also have to think about like it's a very
bad time for America and jd. Vance would be dealing
with the economy is not doing well. Yes, wegen these
you know, in this horrible situation you know, of funding
a genocide in Gaza. There's all sorts of structural reasons
why he would feel like he can't really change course
on that without like you know, his coalition falling apart,
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very likely to be drawn back into war, with Iran
still mired in Ukraine, the world united against us, Like
there's a it's a really bad time to be to
have to be to be president and be dealing with
the fallout of the idiocy that Trump has foisted on
this country and on the world too. So you know, I,
like I said, I think Trump gets away with things
(19:11):
because he has so much He's funny. He just has
off the charts charisma, like you can't deny it. I
hate the man, but that's just facts. Jade Vance is
not that guy, so I think he would struggle to
keep that coalition together. And then of course you already
have like the you know, the gropers and the people
that hate him because his wife is in me and whatever.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Again, I think things would change. I mean if in
a way like I think it might be the worst
thing that ever happened to the left because it could
suck a lot of the enthusiasm out of him. It
could become you know, things could go back to normal, honestly,
relatively quickly, So you really have Look, I don't want
a lot.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Of energy around hating jd Vance and the Petertiel Palenteer
elon Musk tech oligarchs as well.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Purely online the average you know, Normy lib hates Trump
for being uncouth and you know whatever, like they don't
give a shit. And to the extent that they care
about Jad, they're like, he's Trump's little errand boy or whatever.
I mean, they don't know anything about Palanteer. So I
think that's this here.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Is emblematic of the oligarchy and like the billionaire class. Well,
and there's certainly normy reactions.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Well, we'll see, we'll see. Personally, I think that the
left Trump is the best thing for the left right now.
I mean his you know, his like brashness and all
that return to normalcy would nuke them because then they
would Yeah, I don't think that. I think all the
energy would completely be sucked out it. Also, I look,
a lot of it depends on GD A lot of
it depends on the circumstances too, and the timing, Like
early on right now, you're basically the full on president
(20:33):
for three years. That's what happened to Roosevelt, That's what
happened to Truman. Whereas it's like LBJ, you're running in
the I think so November, Yeah, so he only had
a year. It's number twenty third up until the election.
He only had the last year of the presidency that's
a very different circumstance too. So the point is it's complicated.
If you look broadly around, we'll see I mean, it's
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fun thought experiment, I guess. All right, let's get to Saturers.
Very crazy story coming out of Jordan where two United
States senators were denied the ability to fly over Gaza
despite being in the country of Jordan and would have
been boarded on a Jordanian plane. So here's the video
that they shot. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Jeff Merkley and I are here at the King Abdell
of the second Air Force Base in Jordan. Jeff and
I wanted to go into Gossam to see firsthand the
destruction which we've seen in photographs and by eyewitness testimony,
but we were denied that opportunity to go in on
the ground. We are really hoping for the opportunity to
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fly over against to be able to witness firsthand exactly
the scale of destruction in Gaza. So far, we've not
been able to go.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
So far, the senators have not been able to go,
denied the ability to go by the Israeli government, which
is pretty shocking. Again, you know, considering the fact that
the government itself has banned journalist and others from even
participating in flyovers that are dropping AID and that is
one where you know, you just have to ask, well,
what are you covering up exactly? And well we all know,
(22:10):
don't we because there have been enough images of all
of that that have been able to come out. It's
mostly just a serious breach on US sovereignty because it's insane.
It's yeah, exactly, I mean it's crazy, like these are
United States senators in a foreign country. The Jordanian government
has no problem with them going and they're like, no, actually,
because what is that. It's a tasket commission and we
control the skies, it's our territory. Well, it's our country,
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and which just gets all the questions around this of like, well,
why what exactly is going on here? We're not even
allowed to fly and they're oh, Hamas has rockets now
that can shoot us. Come on, like what are we doing?
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:41):
And we know the way they blocked journalists from going
on board these you know, AID drop flights because they
didn't want pictures coming out and they don't want Merkley
and they don't want Van Holland to actually see that
Gaza has been turned into absolute and complete rubble. They
also went to the Ropagate on the Egypt Gaza border,
and he says in this post, he says, on the
(23:03):
other side was Gaza's thriving city of Rafa, home to
two hundred and six seventy thousand. Today we saw it
reduced to rubble. The net Nahoo government has gone beyond
targeting Hamasta, waging a war of destruction against all Palestinians.
It must end. And we all remember when everybody's posting
all all lies on Rafa, right, we all remember that.
We all remember the Biden administration saying going into Rafa
(23:24):
is a red line, because remember what the Israelis did.
They pushed the entire population of Gaza further and further
and further south, Rafa being the southernmost city, and just
obliterated in their path, squeezed everybody down into the southern
part of the Gaza strip. And then they went in
and annihilated Rafa as well. And Rafa has been reduced
(23:45):
to rubble as we speak, we can put D three
up on the screen. You know, there is a just
absolute onslaught happening in and around Gaza city. This is
from yesterday. According to Middle East I and this was
information from Gaza's health ministry, they said that Israeli killed
at least ninety eight Palestinians in Goza in the last
twenty four hours. During the same period, four hundred and
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four others were wounded. A number of these Palestinians who
were murdered by the IDF were out seeking aid. A
number of other ones I believe eight of them died
because of starvation. So it is absolutely as brutal and
as dire as it has ever been in this war.
I saw numbers that even if you use which most
(24:27):
I mean all experts say at this point like the
official numbers are dramatic undercount. If you can consider people
are dying of malnutrition and disease and lack of sanitation,
and you know who are buried under the rubble and
unaccounted for, etc. It's a dramatic undercount. But even if
we take that official count, that means that ten percent
of the population of the Gaza strip has ever either
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been killed or injured. There is really no analogous situation
in modern history ten percent of an entire population that
has either been killed or injured, and you know, we're
still here backing the whole thing and putting up plans
for you know, official ethnic cleansing, which we'll get to
in the next segment.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Yeah, it's really sickening. Let's go ahead and put the
next part up here on the screen, please, just so
we can show at least some of it. I mean,
it really is sickening. Actually some of the video that
has been coming out at the very least of like
what is even available you know, warning obviously if you're
watching this, and some sensitive stuff, but this is the
(25:29):
least amount from what we've been able to see that
remains there. And it demonstrates why a lot of the
campaign against journalists and against these senators is happening is
to basically keep it so that only the on the
ground images are the ones that are able to be disseminated,
and there's no journalists, there's nobody even really verifying or
(25:51):
plotting or telling people what exactly is going on. So yeah,
I think it is actually very interesting from the point
of how much longer this can continue in terms of
public and US support, Like that's the big question is
at a certain point, even the pro Israel defenders and
(26:13):
we'll talk about this soon the people in Israel, the IDF,
who can we all agree is not like some bleeding
heart liberals and all them are like, guys, this is
doing nothing like it is basically killing for the sake
of it and expulsion in conjunction with this like crazy
plan of the far most far right ministers of the
Israeli government. It's a question both for them politically, you know,
(26:35):
at a constituent level, because it's true, basically Israel either
de facto supports this or you know, supports this all out.
But it's also a question of like America here where
even with the limited amount of images, the amount of control,
and the lack of support, that they're just going for
it in a way that strategically doesn't make a lot
of sense if you plan for a continuation, or maybe
(26:57):
it does, because they're like, this is it. We're just
going to get it done now. It's the only time
that we'll ever have the opportunity. So don't I don't
really know, you know, how else to square it, because
that seems to be what they think, Well.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
We have, we have the plan. We'll talk about in
the next block of what they intend to do. They're
using GHF basically as shaping operations to push everybody again
to the South and you know, be able to push
people to you know, to self deport. We'll say, just
breezen plans for ethnic cleansing and then create some you know,
development haven for for Trump and his cronies to cash
(27:29):
in on his utterly disgusting and stage capitalism kind of stuff.
Let's put D five up on the screen because it's
also unbelievable how rogue Israelists they assassinated Yemen's prime minister
and their entire cabinet. And this is from Code Pink.
They say Western impunity means Israel can kill entire government
cabinets of sovereign countries and commit genocide without the world
(27:52):
batting in eyelid. It goes without saying, imagine that the
houthis assassinated net Yahoo and Smoke Church and Benkevie. What
do you think the reaction would be? And yet they
operate in such a rogue and lawless manner with absolute
impunity and zero accountability with us when they're indicted for
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war crimes, sanctioning the ICC for daring to sanction them
to you know, indict them for war crimes just absolute impunity.
It is insane what this country is doing, the number
of countries they bomb, the number of war crimes they've committed. Obviously,
what's happening in Gaza, what they're doing in the West Bank,
(28:35):
what they're announcing, and they're once again saying, we're going
to cut off aid to northern Gaza because we, you know,
believe anyone who's left there, we're just going to assume
that they're a terrorist, so we're going to try to
starve them to death. This is all announced and out
in the open, and yet our country is, you know,
just going along with it. And ultimately, we know other
(28:57):
nations around the world with any power to do anything,
are really doing anything. Listen, the recognition of Pali sine. Okay, fine,
but that is not going to change the situation right now,
and Israel truly is going for it. In that interview
that you mentioned that Trump did give to a print
reporter on Friday, he was asked about Israel. Can put
D four up on the screen to show you part
(29:18):
of his answer. So he was asked this question about, like, hey,
do you see that some young Republicans even now are
moving away from Israel? And what do you make of that?
Are you aware of it? And he says, yeah, I'm
aware of it. So Israel is amazing because you know,
I have good support from Israel. But when if you
go back twenty years, I mean, I will tell you,
Israel had the strongest lobby in Congress of anything or body,
(29:39):
or of any company or corporation or state that I've
ever seen. Israel was the strongest. Today it doesn't have
that strong lobby. It's amazing. I think we have more
from this interview we can go to. He says there
was a time where he couldn't speak bad if you
wanted to be a politician, you couldn't speak badly. But
today you have, you know, AOC plus three and you
have all these loot and they've really changed it. So
(30:02):
they're gonna have to get that war over with. But
it is hurting Israel, There's no question about it. They
may be winning the war, but they're not winning the
world of public relations, you know, and it is hurting them.
So some interesting commons similar to things and that he's
actually said in the past about the Israel lobby, and.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
I mean yes and no, he's like said that stuff
before on Israel. He just reverts to this like, you know,
template answer, what about October seventh he did or what.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
It's just it's like no one has done more for
Israel than I have.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
True, I guess truely true. Yeah, I don't know. I mean,
there is mystif the people around Trump, many others, even
in the Republican movement, are mystified at his deference to Israel.
It does not exist with any other state. Nobody really
knows why. We can all speculate. We certainly have here
(30:51):
on the show if variety of ideology, money, who knows,
you know what else that female some people are saying,
some people are so many people are saying that it
could be. But regardless they have, he has an exception
to them that does not exist for literally anyone else.
And it is exceptional because it stands so stark to
(31:12):
how he treats every single other country in the world.
And it's what's actually remarkable is that Trump's thing about
being independent was he always different than other Republicans, even
if he would do many of the same things. But
on Israel he seems exactly the same. It's just like
Mike Johnson, He's just like all the others He's just
like all the you know, like everyone else. And it's
the one area where I think people can credibly be like, dude,
(31:32):
you are, you know, like you're just not different in
any way. If anything, you're the most you know, fervorent
like Backer, They're off the Israel lobby. So I think
that is probably the area which has been most disillusioning,
you know, for a lot of the so called like
podcast Young right and all these other people, because they
don't like Israel, you know, and they're not subjected to
the same level of propaganda that a lot of these
(31:54):
other people are. I don't know, I just I'll never
understand it, I truly won't.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I mean, I think part of what he gives up there,
I mean, first of all, I think the blackmail thing
is like a real life possibility, and even if he
doesn't know specifically, he is probably somewhat afraid of them
and what they might have on him. And we know
that they've like threatened, you know, Ryan's reporting about it
threatened Bill Clinton, so we can't put that past them
at all. But he also says something there that he's like,
I have a lot of support there, I mean, and
(32:20):
that's part of how he thinks too. He's like Mary
Meddlson gave me a one hundred million dollars and I'm
going to do what she wants me to do. I'm
going to do what they want me to do because
they really support me. And you know, there is a
large constituency in the Republican Party that is just they're
still majority overwhelmingly pro Israel. So he's looking at where
his bread is buttered, and it doesn't you know, that's
certainly a part of the calculation of the way that
(32:42):
he views the world, Saber. This will transition us to
the next piece. I think he also is enamored with
the real estate developer possibilities of the Gaza strafinitely.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Yeah, that's right. All right, let's get to that, shall we,
Because this, you know, we both were going through the
post war playing the PowerPoint which remarkably are actually out
in the open, and it's actually insane. Let's go and
put this up here on the screen. This was from
the Washington Post. Gaza post war plan envisions quote voluntary
relocation of the entire population. It's called the Great Trust
(33:17):
from a demolished Iranian proxy to a prosperous Abrahamic ally,
let's stick with that. It's the Gaza Reconstruction, economic Acceleration, Transformation,
or Great as they are calling it. You can actually
look at the prospectus. It's linked there. It's completely public.
It quote envisions a temporary relocation of all of Gaza's
(33:39):
more than two million population through what it calls voluntary
departure to another country or into restricted, secured zones inside
the enclave during reconstruction. It would be financed, it says,
by various shady entities. And I think the most important
here part here is that it would entail basically the
(33:59):
United States being responsible for this. Much of the financial
planning has been done by Boston Consulting Group. So this
is like inclusion of all the worst of America.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
And they themselves, by the way, for the lawyers anyway.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
But yeah, for the lawyers, you know, they've put out
a statement, etc. But at the very least, this is
a classic Jared Kushner style, which I mean, look, he
even said it right over a year ago. He was like, oh,
some of the best real estate in the world. And
I do think that they are genuinely like enamored by
what you said of the riviera of the Middle East.
But the most appealing part to Trump is that quote
(34:34):
it requires no US government funding and other significant profit
to investors. Instead, what it would do is use private
US security contractors to distribute food in four gods and
locations like with the GHF, which is de facto under
Israeli control, and it would be financed by public and
private sector investment for mega projects from electric vehicle plants,
(34:55):
data centers, beach resorts, and high rise apartments. Now, obviously,
I think the question of like who gets to live
there seems to be pretty important, And like the GHF,
what we have basically seen is this private quasi force
which includes and is funded by the United States by
the Israeli government. What we know from GJF whistleblower Anthony
Aguilar is that the Israelies were the quote client, and
(35:17):
we're effectively the ones running this. And if the two
million people lead and you build this great resort for
who's it for? Is it for these rag leis? So
it's a US funded development resort, Disneyland project so that
people in Tel Aviv can come to the beach. Like
what are we talking about here? Yeah, that's why it's
I mean, you know, disaster capitalism does not even capture
(35:38):
what Elvis is. This is dark.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
This is like the end stage of genocide on behalf
of development.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
It reminds me of that show, the Amazon Prime show
about if the Nazis won the war. I'm totally bladed
to Oh that's what it is. It's like New Ye.
It's like, oh, what New York would look like if
the Nazis had won. It's like bullet and you know,
super fast Concord aircraft. And then people are driving through
the Midwest and there's ashes and they're like, oh, yeah,
it's start for the hospital to burn the bodies. You're like,
(36:09):
uh what, Yeah, But I mean that's kind of the
technological future that they envision. So it's I mean, I'm
I won't go that far. It's not as bad, budd It's.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Like, again, we're talking about committing a genocide and an
ethnic cleansing so we can clean clean down a population
so that Trump and Kushner and his buddies can make
millions on a real estate deal. That's what we're talking
I mean, And I have to say, the way this
article sets it up, like to not use any of
(36:39):
that any language around that is also really a disgrace
when it's all laid out in the open. The mechanics
of how they described this too are utterly horrifying. First
of all, the envision GHF the Gods of Humanitarian Foundation
that Tony Aguilar has been blowing the whistle on a
bunch of paid a marria and mercenary thugs who are
(37:01):
apparently comfortable with murdering children as they seek aid. They're
central to this plan. They lay out the different phases,
and phase number one they call it humanitarian operations. Israel
fights to dismantle hamas GHF provides hamas free, secure aid
and temporary housing. They operate under humanitarian mandate to secure
(37:24):
humanitarian operations in personnel. That's what they claim JHF is doing.
In the next phase, the Great Trust is created, GHF
folds under the Great Trust and they're used. So I
want you guys to understand too that this connects directly
to what's happening on the ground right now with GHF.
And this again is what Anthony Aguilar said. He said,
(37:44):
these aren't this is not an aid operation. These are
shaping operations. What are the shaping operations meant to enable this?
Is it to lure the population, to force them through
starvation into certain parts of the strip. Right now, once again,
the IDF in bombing the helen of Gaza City by
the way, attacking people who are trying to flee, trying
(38:05):
to follow the orders. And they're still attacking and murdering
these people who are trying to do what they're told
by the IDF they have to do. But in any case,
they are part and parcel of this plan to fully
get rid of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip and create
this Trump Riviera Gaza situation, absolute insanity. And they talk
(38:27):
in the cold language of the you know BCG consultants
in this PowerPoint about how much more cost effective it
will be if they can lure more Gazans to completely
live leave the strip. We'll save thirty thousand dollars for
each person Palestinian that we lure to go to you know,
(38:48):
whatever country, Somaliland or whatever country agrees to ultimately take them.
That's the way this is all laid down. And I
really there's something about the combination of this corporate speek
real estate development PowerPoint when you know, like we showed
you the images of we know what is happening on
the ground. We know the way that humans are being
(39:11):
murdered and children destroyed and limbs amputated, and the level
of trauma and the complete destruction of like this was
a real place with schools and hospitals and churches and
moss and community and family and cemeteries and life and
culture and all of this, and you're just clearing it
aside so Trump can build a fucking beachside hotel. Like
(39:33):
it's sick. It is absolutely sick. And the fact that
it happens out in the open, that we can see
the documents and the plans are announced and it just
unfolds like it blows. It truly does blow my mind.
It really does blow my mind.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Yeah, let's put E four up on the screen because
I think what's important to also note is how explicit
the current campaign in Gaza City is with what this
aim is as a posed to the ostensible well, because
if you listen to Scott Jennings on c really, what
about the hostages, what about the hostages? All of the
Security Cabinet, all of the IDF told Netanyahu any Gaza
(40:14):
City takeover will not defeat Hamas, and they are begging
for him to accept the quote limited hostage deal which
has been on the table, the Wick Cough proposal for
what like two weeks three weeks now that has been
accepted by Hamas. They say, no, we're not going to
do that. Instead, pushing out and taking over Gaza City
is what eradication, destruction and the creation of the zone.
(40:38):
So the Equin eventually annexit and create the Gaza Riviera,
which by the way, they don't have to pay for
because of course why would they have to pay for it,
even though they broke all of it, all of it
out they want America to pay for in the UAE
and all these other countries, and then to use the
full might of the Empire to actually force this expulsion
and then pay for in quasi finance the development of
a Disneyland for Israelis. I mean, it's pretty insane, sickening,
(41:00):
but that's the only way that you can actually make
this all makes sense, especially in the context of they've
been threatening what they have been threatening, the current official
annexation of the West Bank, not that they obviously don't
occupy it now, and then the Greater Israel project is
in full force, except by this time it's paid for
(41:20):
by the US taxpayer finance for the US dollar. That's
the really sick and insane part of it.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Yeah, and there's a put E two up on the
skik screen. There happens to be a crypto scam. Also
at the heart of this, I mean, just to put
the most modern dystopian spin on it, possible, those who
those Palestinians who own land will be offered a digital
token by the trust in exchange for rights to redevelop
their property, or they'll be offered that how kind of them,
They'll get a digital token for their land that they
(41:46):
have had in their family for generations. Unbelievable. And then
you know, as this is happening and unfolding again in
front of our eyes, you can put E three up
on the screen. You have the foremost association of scholars
of genocide who just voted overwhelming land that it was
eighty six percent or something to say yes, it's a genocide,
and they join the They joined the view of the
(42:08):
provisional ruling of the ICJ. They joined the view of
other scholars around the world, of Amnesty International, of Betsalum,
of all sorts of international human rights organizations like Soccer
doesn't use that term, so we'll put him aside. But
for those who embrace this term and think that it
means something and think that it should apply in certain situations,
(42:31):
there is a consensus now and it is no longer
a question.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
I wouldn't deny that within the confines of the term,
that doesn't.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
I know, I know, I know, And that's what I'm Yeah,
that's what I'm for sure.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
And look, I mean and this is part of why
where Netta Yaho, This is part of why, because it
all gets you know, wrapped in I think Netanya who
goes on pvds of course all recognize the Armenian genocide, right,
and it's like, so the Armenian genocide was a genocide
and it was a mass murder, but this one is not.
And so then it gets all this tedious genocide you know,
oh this, and that it goes back. I've talked about
(43:00):
this from nineteen forty eight, the genocide convention. It was
literally a term made up by a Polish writer in
the nineteen forties. It was basically meant to invoke like
a post World War two doctrinate a quote unquote never again.
Even though by its own terms it's obviously happened over
and over again. That's probably why I reject the term.
I think mass murders fine, and because I think that
in general, if you operate based on American interest, or
(43:21):
if most countries do, then they a lot of these
things won't happen. The only reason this stuff like this
even does happen is because this slavish devotion that we
have over at Israel, if it was treated like a
normal state, they were no rekilling nobody. And if other people,
if Western style democracies and others, really lived up to
their My point is just that nobody ever actually lives
up to this human rights style rhetoric because it's bullshit
(43:43):
and it's just fake law created post World War two
to make America feel good about itself, even though we
have and many other countries have perpetuated horrific disasters point them.
But yes, within that framework, of course, I would deny
it at all.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Yeah, No, I mean it's undeniable at this point of
the population again either murdered or injured, and they're actively
announcing their eth and cleansing plans, like what are we
doing here? If you're still in denial of that? All right, guys,
rather than doing the hard turn to the US Open controversy.
We've talked for a really long time about a number
of these topics, so we're just going to cut the
show and go ahead and try to get it out
(44:17):
to you guys on time, and Sager and I are
going to go ahead and do that AMA live again.
If you want to take part in those AMA lives,
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and Emily will be in tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
See you guys,
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