February 10, 2023 • 44 mins
Peyton Blake has difficult news to share with Jeremy, Anne, and Thomas, while Olivia shares difficult news of her own with her mother.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
How did you?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I'll explain everything, but you need to come with me.
This part of the swamp isn't protected.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Why don't you put down that knife first?
Speaker 5 (00:24):
Well?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
There, Thomas, you're looking surprisingly well and this wasn't for you?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Was for that?
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Are we going to a gathering meeting?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Why would you think that?
Speaker 4 (00:34):
I don't know the symbol you carved those in the
trees when you want to meet, don't you?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
That's one purpose for them, But that's not the primary one.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
So what is the primary one?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Come on, we'll talk as we go.
Speaker 6 (00:48):
Okay, Hey, how did you know Thomas's name?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I know who all of you are, Thomas, especially why
the Houdini active pulled there?
Speaker 4 (00:59):
I'm not sure if you were impressed or annoy.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Can I be both? Aren't you going to ask me
who I am?
Speaker 4 (01:08):
We know who you are. You're a gathering leader from Virginia.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Right, I guess we all have reputations preceding us. Then
I assume you know why I'm here?
Speaker 6 (01:18):
Well, why don't you tell us, all right, here we go.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Ah, where are you taking us?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
It's not so much about the destination as it is
about getting on a bus. What I haven't had a
chance to cover the whole swamp yet, and the bus
stop was closer than the areas I have secured. The
bus will be safe.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Iron rank the favor of help. Iron buses are steeled,
which is an iron alloy.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
M The next bus should be here in three minutes.
We can talk freely on it.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
What do you mean you haven't covered the whole swamp yet.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
The ruin I carved it wasn't for community cation. It
was for protection.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
That's why that bigfoot creature vanished.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
H can't come past the boundaries of the rooms.
Speaker 7 (02:09):
Now.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I can keep it out of areas, but I can't
keep it in. So be careful if you choose to
come back.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
So you're saying it's not gone for good.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
No, just vanish to the other side for now. That's
why I'm here. A lot of things are not where
they should be.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Yeah, we've figured that out.
Speaker 8 (02:30):
On our own.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Does that also mean you figured out what's causing it?
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Well, yeah, we know that something is off balance.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
You think things are not just off balance, Jeremy. They
are broken.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Because of you.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Me.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
What did I do? I was trapped for forty years?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Exactly. You should never have come back out.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
What do you mean he shouldn't have come back.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Thomas was in there for a reason and he should
have stayed there.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
How dare you say that?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Hey, hey, listen, don't be mad at me. I'm just
the messenger.
Speaker 9 (03:46):
Oh yeah, and who exactly is the source.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Of this message the other side?
Speaker 9 (03:52):
Oh cool, So you've got like a buddy over there
or something.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I'm not trying to come here and mess up your life, Jeremy, No.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
You're just coming to murder my father.
Speaker 10 (04:03):
Again.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
That wasn't me, That wasn't any member of the gathering,
or even a member back then.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
Oh sure there was an offshoot. Yeah, we've heard that
all before. Then.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
You know, I'm right. You have no reason to take
your anger out on me.
Speaker 11 (04:18):
Given that I'm the only one here who's actually the
victim of an attempted murder.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
I think I could be angry at whoever I want.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
That's fair, And I know this doesn't mean anything to you.
I wasn't even alive when you were pushed into the
liminal but I am sorry for what happened to you.
It wasn't right not to mention it didn't even work.
The liminal mm hmm, that's what we call it. Where
(04:45):
Thomas was and your solution.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Is just a thrown back again.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Do you know exactly what you're dealing with here?
Speaker 6 (04:53):
We have some idea, yeah, then.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
You know who's on the other side, what that place is.
Or you have a bunch of half baked theories but
not enough solid proof to connect all the dots.
Speaker 12 (05:09):
Well, we've been thinking maybe it's the Fay realm okay,
and considering the way you reacted to my iron assumption.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Yeah, okay, so you're not totally clueless.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
So that is what's doing this.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
The Fay Court, the Hidden People, the Secret Commonwealth, whatever
you want to call it, non human beings who reign
over a kingdom that lays just beyond a liminal space,
who could destroy all of us with ease if they
so chose.
Speaker 12 (05:36):
If that were true, wouldn't they have done it by now?
I mean it certainly feels like they've been trying at
least here.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
They made a deal centuries ago. What do you We
don't bother them, They don't bother us. Everybody stays happy
and ignorant.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
And we have to give them something like a human life.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
It's different for each doorway here, Virginia, Muda, Mattlock, the
Dragon's triangle places where the veil between worlds is thinnest,
where the other side is accessible. There has to be
something between here and there, hence the liminal where you
were trapped with someone else. I'm assuming how did you
(06:17):
know that it's similar in Virginia. Well, the need for
two souls is at least two souls, one that has
to be new every forty years. That's my understanding of
how Bridgewater works.
Speaker 12 (06:33):
And he wasn't willing, so so things have been hinky
here for a while.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yes, it's not a deal breaker for the Fay realm,
the willingness bit, but having two residents of the liminal
that's non negotiable. It keeps things nice and closed.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
So without me, the.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Gates are wide open for anyone to waltz into the
kingdom or out of it.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Okay, so how do we close it?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
We follow the terms of the deal.
Speaker 11 (07:03):
Even if I went back in Alden wouldn't be able
to come out, or we'd be stuck with the same problem.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
I take it Alden as the other person in there. No,
they wouldn't be able to come out either.
Speaker 12 (07:14):
Okay, well that's a mood point. Because you are not
going back in there.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Someone has to or people are going to die.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Whoa, whoa. We do not know that you think.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
You would have been able to defend yourselves against that beast.
That's not your storybook, sasquash Jeremy. We've got similar creatures
in the South, bear like things that can stand on
two legs, take down trees. There's the Faky monster, the
Ozak Howler.
Speaker 12 (07:42):
And wait wait, the faky monster that's Arkansas, right, and
it kills livestock.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
Right, then, maybe what we just saw is the thing
that killed the cows.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
That's exactly my point. These monsters are not gonna stop
at a visceray and cows, which is why we need
to fix this.
Speaker 11 (08:04):
Doesn't have to be me though, right, Whatever deal exists
doesn't stipulate a specific person.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
No, it doesn't have to be you. But to be
really honest, I don't know who else would willingly go
in there.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Why would we trust her on this?
Speaker 13 (08:20):
Why would we trust you on this? We don't even
know you. And the gathering hasn't exactly been.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Good to us. I have no reason to lie to you.
Speaker 13 (08:26):
Even if you are telling the truth, that doesn't mean
that there's not something else we can do. Okay, you
got rid of that beast, the howler thing, whatever, just
very easily. You just teach us how to do that,
and we can take care of this area.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
It doesn't work like that. I told you I can
keep things out by creating a protective boundary, but I
can't keep anything in. They'd be free to rome elsewhere.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Can we kill them?
Speaker 12 (08:54):
They are flesh and blood, presumably right, so we figure
out how we can take them down.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
The monsters coming from the other side are not your
biggest problem.
Speaker 9 (09:04):
I'd say they're pretty urgent concern.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
If the terms of the deal aren't honored, the Fae
Realm won't stick to its side of the veil.
Speaker 9 (09:12):
Mean what, we're gonna send more monsters through?
Speaker 4 (09:15):
What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (09:16):
They won't have to The boundary will collapse, the two
worlds bleeding into one another, causing problems we can't even imagine.
The deal must be honored.
Speaker 9 (09:29):
It sounds like we need to renegotiate this deal.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Yeah, I don't think you really comprehend what we're dealing
with here, Jeremy. This is old magic. It's not something
that can be altered or undone. It's like gravity. We
have to bend to it.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Humans have found plenty of ways to defy gravity.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
But we always have to come back down always.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
And do you want to chime in here?
Speaker 6 (09:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Dad, I think she's right. We may not have a choice, esays,
what is happening here.
Speaker 13 (10:03):
We met her five minutes ago, and you're just taking
everything she says at face value.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
I'm not saying that we should just give up, but
thank you.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
No, Jeremy's right, we don't have any reason to trust you.
Your predecessor was slippery at best and manipulative at worst.
I've known her a lot longer. So until you have
proof of what you're saying, and I'm not even sure
what that proof would look like, we're going to keep
doing what we've been doing and figure things out the old.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Fashioned way, grasping for straws in the darkness.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Investigate.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
You know what, Fine, I can't force any of you
to do anything. We don't know how disastrous that is,
So go ahead, do your own investigating, but do it
quickly and when you finally figure out that I'm telling
the truth, come and find me, all right?
Speaker 14 (11:00):
All right?
Speaker 6 (11:01):
So have you moved into Celeste house too? Huh? Stepped
into her whole life.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
I'm not her permanent replacement. Besides, I wanted to keep
an eye on things, so I'm staying in Freetown Forest.
That safe, I'm protected, all right. Listen, follow the ruins
from the East Hiking Path and you will find me.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
I don't think we're gonna need to, but thanks.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Remember, don't take too long.
Speaker 12 (11:45):
Hey, it's Jeremy, Jeremy Bradshaw, the cool Professor.
Speaker 9 (11:49):
Hi.
Speaker 12 (11:51):
I know it's only been a few days and I
don't have any really important sightings to tell you about,
although I do actually want to tell you about the
Bigfoot situation at some point, but that's not why call.
I'm calling because a woman named Peyton Blake showed up
up here. She's a gathering leader from Virginia, and I
basically just wanted to know if you think she's someone
(12:14):
I can trust or.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Not, if you have any inpo on her. Sorry, I
know that's a bit weird, but.
Speaker 12 (12:22):
Yeah, anything that you could tell me would be helpful,
or anything any of the other legend trippers might know
anything anyone knows would would be helpful, So you can
just you know, text me back or call me back
or whatever, any any mode of communication. And yeah, that's it, Okay,
(12:47):
thank you.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
I talked about whatever later, dork. Hey, who was that?
Speaker 12 (12:56):
Oh that was that legend tripper that I met? I
was just curious if she had any information about that
about Peyton.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah, well that was an interesting text to get yesterday.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (13:08):
Well, you know, I just thought that I should loop
you and Olivia in on the newest, weirdest developments.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
But you're okay, you know, after nearly getting ripped apart
by us Sasqua.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
I think so.
Speaker 12 (13:19):
Yeah, but I've decided to call it a hackamack howler.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Because it sounds more academic.
Speaker 9 (13:28):
I am really not looking forward to lecturing.
Speaker 12 (13:30):
Today, but I'm not sure what to do, because apparently
life doesn't stop just because evil fairies are trying to
kill your dad.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Feels like a reason to take a sick day, though.
Speaker 9 (13:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (13:42):
Unfortunately, I think if I take any more of those,
I'm going to lose the health insurance it helps me
after these monster attacks.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
I don't know. Do you want to do?
Speaker 8 (13:53):
You want to help me go over the topics for today.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
This is so fucked.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
Eloquent as always lived.
Speaker 14 (14:23):
Well, I don't know what else I'm supposed to say.
I mean, if even half of what Peyton told you
was real, then well, first of all, I'm moving the
moment I graduate.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
Okay, don't joke about that.
Speaker 14 (14:33):
I'm not joking. It's one thing to grow up hearing
stories about pug Wedges and windogows, but now there's a
whole other dimension that's one badly executed ritual away from
collapsing into our world and unleashing all sorts of hell, no,
thank you.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
That is not going to happen.
Speaker 11 (14:49):
Okay, we are going to figure out how to stop
all of this for good.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
How new, Grandpa.
Speaker 14 (14:53):
We're talking about some seriously ancient forces here, and we
can't be the only people who've wanted to fight back
against them before. I mean, what if the deal that's
been made is the best possible version of a win.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
We're not gonna think like that. Okay, We're gonna figure
out what the fey realm wants, what they can do,
and how they can be beat.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Oh sure, yes, super easy stuff.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
Well I didn't say it was gonna be easy, but
we don't have any other choice.
Speaker 14 (15:19):
All right, what do you need me to do?
Speaker 6 (15:22):
You still want to help with all this?
Speaker 14 (15:25):
Do I want to prevent the evil fairy apocalypse?
Speaker 8 (15:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, that'd be nice.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
All right.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
I prefer you stayed inside as much as possible, because
I don't like how close that dog got to you.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yeah, you and me both?
Speaker 6 (15:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
What needs doing?
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Ah?
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Well, let's see. Jeremy's chasing down some information on the
fay realm. Vivian's working on some kind of map. I
have no idea.
Speaker 14 (15:49):
He's using all the different reported sightings to try and
track creature's movements.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
Fantastic, And I'm gonna go and see if Doc Edward's
got any think from his lab examination of the cow.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
So I could use a hand.
Speaker 11 (16:03):
Okay, I think we need to find out more about
what happened to Olden.
Speaker 14 (16:08):
Oh yeah, sure, I can help you with that.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
All right, all right, well, I'll be back in a bit.
Call me if the house starts to shake again.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Oh haha, wait, what do you mean again? H what
happened now?
Speaker 6 (16:20):
I'll explain later. I'm sure he'll be fine.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Nanna, we'll be fine, Olivia.
Speaker 14 (16:27):
You know, the more you both say that less I think.
Speaker 9 (16:30):
You believe it.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
I don't know what else to say. I have to
believe it will all be okay.
Speaker 14 (16:33):
Right, right, of course, I'm sure it will be. And
I'm surprised you didn't want to help Jeremy with his research.
I'm sure he'd love to spend more.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Time with you.
Speaker 11 (16:43):
It wasn't really something I could help with. He had
to go to work anyway, and he's calling up an
old friend from Oxford. Did you know that he studied.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
There for a semester. I didn't.
Speaker 14 (16:54):
I mean I didn't really know him all that well,
we only met, like just got a few weeks ago.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Right of course, you two didn't even know each other existed. Yeah,
how do you feel Anne? Did you forget mom? Shelly?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I'd take it Anne's out.
Speaker 11 (17:10):
Yes, yes, you just missed her, but I'm sure she'd
be right back. We could call her on her cellular phone.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, yeah, probably better. She's not here. Okay, hey, live,
would you mind giving us a minute?
Speaker 14 (17:26):
Oh yeah, sure, I'll just take my laptop to the
guest room and start doing that research.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Okay, Well, I would say that I'm sorry for just
dropping by unexpectedly, but.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Yeah, I guess I take the price for that. Huh.
Speaker 11 (17:48):
Olivia told me she explained everything to you, or tried
to at least, but that she needed some time. I
would have come to see you if I know.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
It's fine to be honest, I still need time. But
I was driving to work and was about to pass
the turn to my mom's house, and before I knew it,
I was driving over here. And I wasn't even planning
on coming in until I saw my mom's carpool away.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
I know she really wants to talk to you. Do
you want to sit or I can make you some coffee?
I barely understand. And the machine it's got these weird
plastic pods.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
But I'm sure I don't know how long I can stay. Right,
You've really just been gone for forty years and just
blinked out of and back into existence.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Not exactly, I was somewhere all this time.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Right right, Yes, it was some magical in between voice.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
It sounds crazy, I know.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Well I don't think that you do. You don't even
look old enough to be the father to a teenager,
let alone, you know.
Speaker 10 (19:05):
Yeah, I know freak me out too, that you're really yeah, yeah,
I'm really your dad and you have to know, Shelley,
I never wanted to leave you or Jeremy and and I.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
We had a plan. We were going to be a family.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
But then you got sucked into some other dementia.
Speaker 11 (19:29):
I know it sounds about as believable as I'm going
out for cigarettes.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
I'll be right back.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
But yeah, at least it's not cliche.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
At least there's that, Shelley, why are you here?
Speaker 8 (19:47):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
It was Olivia researching, by the way. When she left
this morning, she said, something happened.
Speaker 11 (19:52):
Oh, we met someone who knows a lot more than
we do.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
And well, the.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Situation is, it's it's complicated.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
There was a boy with me in that other place.
It was also trapped in Olivia.
Speaker 11 (20:08):
She's helping me to try to find out more about
him so that maybe we can help him.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Is another.
Speaker 11 (20:15):
A boy from a long time ago.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
So this thing, whatever it is, it does take children.
Speaker 11 (20:26):
Yes, I don't know if that's the preferred sacrifice.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
What sacrifice.
Speaker 11 (20:34):
There's some sort of balance sheet. That other place needs
two people at all times. I ended up there by mistake.
I think I think maybe it wanted Jeremy back then.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah, my mom did mention something about him. Going missing one.
Speaker 11 (20:52):
We got him back, just like you got your boy back.
He's not in danger anymore.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
We'll forgive me if I don't take you at your
word that I'm keeping him at his grandparents for the
foreseeable future, his other grandparents.
Speaker 11 (21:07):
I'd like to meet him someday, if that's okay.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I don't think so, I mean, at least not. You know,
I honestly have no idea. What's okay?
Speaker 3 (21:20):
You know I don't know you.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I know no, I mean, I don't even have stories
about you. Mom did not tell me anything. She never
talked about you.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
I never would have told her to do that.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Well, Anne Becker does whatever it is she wants, and
for some reason, she didn't want me to know that
you were my dad.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
I still am.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
No.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
You don't just get to claim that you've been gone
forty years and we never I mean, we never met,
and you've never been a father to me.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
You're right, but I.
Speaker 11 (22:12):
I thought about you every single day. I understand that
you're angry, I do, and confused and frustrated.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
I am too.
Speaker 11 (22:23):
I was just figuring out how to be a dad,
and then I was ripped away from it, from the
chance to watch Jeremy grow up, the chance to meet you,
But that doesn't mean being a father was ripped out
of me. Because there was Alden, that other kid. She
needed me, and I did figure it out for him.
(22:47):
So in the times when I let myself imagine what
it would be like to come back, I actually felt prepared.
I mean proud of who I'd become, the kind of
father I was turning into. So to come back and
find that my son has well passed the point of
meeting a parent and my daughter doesn't want any kind
of father at all, I feel untethered.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Well, I'm sure Jeremy is thrilled to have you back.
He remembers you growing up. You could tell he lost you.
He was carrying that hole with him everywhere, and.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
It seems like he turned into a good man in
spite of it. I don't know.
Speaker 11 (23:29):
I'm still getting to know him, but he seems smart,
protective of the people in his life.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Like me. I'm feeling a bit like a fifth wheel,
like he doesn't need anything returned to him. Then there's you.
I really don't know you, but I can tell you're
strong and you've raised an amazing daughter.
Speaker 11 (23:51):
I'm glad you didn't grow up like Jeremy, feeling like
a part of you was missing.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
But I still want to belong to you if you'd
ever had me.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Of course, I felt like something was missing.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
I just.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I didn't know what exactly to miss.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Well, whatever it is, you don't have to miss it anymore.
I'm here now, and you're I mean, you're.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Are you real? You know you're not a ghost or
a I don't even know what to ask you.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
I'm real, and I'm I don't know how many of
this works.
Speaker 11 (24:35):
But if I'll live another fifty years, or if my
body just looks young and really I'm in my seventies,
I have no idea what my life would even look
like here in twenty twenty a year. That still sounds
made up in my ears. But I know that all
these questions aren't really important. The only question that matters
to me is if you'll allow me to get to
(24:55):
know you.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
I don't, I don't know, And this is all still so.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
I understand.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
I mean, I'm not saying no, I just I wanted
to come over here today to try and make it
make sense, you know, as much sense as it could.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
How's that going?
Speaker 9 (25:26):
Not great?
Speaker 5 (25:29):
I bet.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
I've always had a really hard time with the paranormal stuff.
You know, my teenage rebellion was becoming as pragmatic and
straight edged as.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Possible a model teenager, were you.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Well, no, I would not say that. I was still
pretty awful with the mootiness and shouting matches and awful boyfriends.
Speaker 11 (25:50):
God, you and Jeremy never, oh God, no, no, no,
Jesus Christ, I would have been.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Look, I'm barely registering that I have my father who
is alive. I think the question of a half brother
is just going to have to sit on the back
burner for a minute.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Okay, understandable, But no.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
No, Jeremy and I didn't overlap in school much. I
have no idea what kind of teenager he was at home.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
I'm sorry I missed it all.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
I really should get going to work.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Wait, yeah, thank you, you know for coming by. Maybe
we could continue the conversation at some point.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Yeah, maybe, Oh God, what is it, I have your nose?
Jeremy doesn't, but I do.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Yeah, you do.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Tell Olivia's here at home, so.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Now let go. I have no idea, but thank you
for talking to her, for trying.
Speaker 14 (27:17):
I didn't mean to overhear well, actually, I was totally
eavesdropping when she asked if you were real you were
talking around something.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Not a lot gets past you.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Huh, you're not sure you're going to stay.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
If I have anything to say about it, I will.
Speaker 11 (27:34):
I'll get Alden out, I'll shut down the fay realm,
I'll live my life.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Right.
Speaker 11 (27:41):
But I don't know Jeremy's worried something's happening to me,
or that the liminal might take me back?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Is that something you're worried about?
Speaker 11 (27:49):
Peyton sent that beast back to the other side with
a simple carving. What's to say that same thing couldn't
happen to me or to anyone that it was as
easy as drawing a symbol somewhere.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
But you don't belong there.
Speaker 14 (28:06):
That sasquatch was from the other side, so that room
sent it back. You're not from the liminal.
Speaker 11 (28:13):
I've spent more years there than I did here. Maybe
it sees me as part of it, and I keep
I keep feeling sick or tired, dizzy. That's what makes
me wonder if I'm not actually as young as I appear.
Speaker 14 (28:31):
Do you feel like you're in a seventy year old's body?
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Oh?
Speaker 11 (28:35):
But that doesn't change the fact that I'm sitting here
with my twenty two year old granddaughter. Oh, I just
realized I'm dumping all of my problems on I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
You're a kid. You shouldn't have to listen to the
adults in your life worry like this.
Speaker 14 (28:48):
Okay, first of all, I'm not a kid, and second
of all, I know we're genetically a few generations apart,
but I mean the reality of it just feels like
we're cousins or something.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
You don't feel weird about listening to all your grandpa's fears.
Speaker 14 (29:03):
Oh, I feel weird about literally everything that's happening in
my life right now. But that doesn't have to be
a bad thing.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Besides, who else are you going to talk to?
Speaker 14 (29:13):
You know, like four people, and one of them is
your long lost love and another is your son.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
You might be right. I just don't want to worry them.
I know, not that I want to worry you.
Speaker 14 (29:26):
No, I know it's okay, Like, you don't have to explain,
And after all, we don't really know each other, do we.
With Nana, you have this whole complicated history, and you
knew my mom existed. You didn't know to expect me
and with Jeremy.
Speaker 11 (29:47):
I don't know how to talk to Jeremy. He's still
a little boy in my mind. So sometimes when I
look at him now, I have to remind myself that
he's the same person, not just some man i've met.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
But there's other times.
Speaker 11 (30:07):
Where I feel like I'm arguing with him like I
would have if I'd been around when he was growing up.
Speaker 14 (30:12):
Well, for what it's worth, I think Jeremy does need you.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
You're not a fifth wheel.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
It's kind of you to say.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I mean it.
Speaker 14 (30:21):
Look, I may not know Jeremy well, but I've gotten
to know Vippen a bit, and I think he might
be the person who knows Jeremy.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Best, isn't he Jeremy's ta.
Speaker 14 (30:29):
Yeah exactly. They've been working together for a few years,
and Vippen called him Professor Bradshaw until like, I don't
know a week ago, but I think Vippen is the
closest thing that Jeremy has to a best friend.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Really, that's what I mean.
Speaker 14 (30:45):
He's not. I just don't know how full his life is,
or how full it was before all of this happened.
Vippen said that Jeremy gave him a whole speech about
not turning out like him, telling Vippen to make sure
he had a life outside of work and all that.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
I'm not sure that this makes me feel better or worse.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 14 (31:04):
Sorry, I'm not exactly the best at PEP talks.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
You know what, I think you're doing just fine?
Speaker 12 (31:21):
Hello, Sophie, it's Jeremy Bradshaw. I know it's been forever, Jeremy.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
Good lord. I didn't think i'd ever hear from you again.
Speaker 12 (31:31):
Oh come on, well, I'm sorry. I know I'm terrible
at keeping in touch.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
It goes both ways. I imagine you've been quite busy.
You're back in the Bridgewater Triangle.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Right, Yeah, I've been back for a while.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Must have your hands full with all sorts of speaks.
Speaker 9 (31:48):
No less than I'm sure you have in Pluckley.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
You're still there.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
I'm actually back at Oxford, if you can believe it.
Speaker 9 (31:54):
What are you going for another degree?
Speaker 5 (31:57):
Handing them out? In fact, I'm a professor like you.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
Oh wow, an Oxford professor. Wow.
Speaker 12 (32:06):
Okay, well, I guess you've reached the apex for anyone
in our discipline.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Congrats.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
I don't get me wrong, I'm still hoping to someday
find fame and fortune as the first person to provide
definitive proof of the paranormal. But twelve years in the
most haunted village in Britain and I didn't see a
single ghost.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Sorry, no, you're not.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
You always knew none of it was real.
Speaker 9 (32:30):
What am I hearing? Has Sophie Burton become a skeptic?
Speaker 5 (32:34):
I'm skirting dangerously close.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Well, I guess time does funny things to all of us.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
Don't tell me that you believe.
Speaker 12 (32:42):
No, no, but I would say that I am. I
am working on keeping an open mind.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
I'm impressed. Is that why you're calling me up out
of the blue? You need me to give you my
old ghosts a real shpiel?
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Uh, not exactly.
Speaker 12 (32:58):
I've actually been trying to expand my expertise, hence the
open mind, and I'm working on something that's a bit
outside of my comfort zone. Okay, I'm trying to write
a lecture that covers the Fay realm. And I realized
that I don't actually really know much beyond the basics
because it's never really been much of a thing in Bridgewater,
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so I haven't even bothered before.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
What's making you want to bother now just curiosity. Well,
you certainly called the right person. We're chocolate block for
the fath o here.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Yeah, that's what I was hoping.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
What exactly do you want to know? It's fairly expensive.
Speaker 12 (33:37):
Well, that's why I wanted to talk to an expert
directly instead of just diving into my books.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
Is there a particular region or myth origin you're looking at?
Speaker 9 (33:45):
I guess the biggest question is friend or foe.
Speaker 12 (33:51):
Yeah. So I feel like the popular cultural representation is
fairly positive overall, tinker Bell and the like, But I
know there's a lot of darker versions of fay Realm.
More so, I'd love to know which side.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
To come down on.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
Well, there's really not one definitive answer to that question.
For as long as there have been fay Realm legends,
there's been good and bad.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
But there is a distinction.
Speaker 9 (34:19):
I mean, there are different there are different groups, right.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
They can be In Scottish law, there's the Sealy Court
and Uncaly Court. Both are fay courts, so therefore dangerous.
But the Sely won't go out of their way to
hurt humans, but the Uncily Court will. There are related
to a whole manner of evil creatures over here, boggots,
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habby lovers, creatures of the devil. Essentially, what do the
Fay want? Well, just general mischief, not the cute fun
kind mind, more of the beating and possessing variety you mentioned.
Speaker 9 (34:55):
The courts are those physical courts.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
Some times there's a lot of law around fairy lands.
Sometimes they're called other worlds or underworlds, even herd fairy kingdom.
And sometimes they're a physical place, sometimes just a ritual
or the very act of doing magic.
Speaker 12 (35:14):
Okay, So if they are physical places, presumably human beings
could enter into one of these lands, and.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
There aren't many legends that explore that idea plenty of
fiction and films, but original myth is mostly the Fay
courts coming over to the human realm.
Speaker 9 (35:29):
How about making deals with humans?
Speaker 5 (35:32):
Oh? Yes, Fay contracts very tricky things. Their story is
you should never accept a gift from a theory, especially food,
never get into debt with them, never make any promises,
and don't even give them your name in the case
of creatures like.
Speaker 9 (35:47):
So basically avoid them at all casts exactly.
Speaker 12 (35:50):
Okay, So hypothetically, what if there is an existing contract,
can you break it?
Speaker 5 (36:00):
I have absolutely no idea. Are you in law school? Now?
Is your class on fairy contract law?
Speaker 9 (36:08):
I'm just trying to create a full picture.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
Well, I mean, I've given a few lectures on the
famous and there's so much to cover. It's honestly best
to keep things surface level.
Speaker 12 (36:18):
If I were you, Okay, sure, But let's say I
was doing fairy contract law.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
What would I teach my students to never.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
Enter a contract with a fairy no matter what. But
if they had, they aren't going to let a contract
be broken. The only way I could see out of
it would be if you had something on the fay
court that could neutralize it. In a lot of law,
they hate being in debt. If there was a mutual
debt that could be exploited, maybe the slate would be
(36:47):
wiped clean. But more likely, you just have a very
angry and violent spirit after you.
Speaker 9 (36:52):
Okay, is there a way to kill them?
Speaker 5 (36:54):
Jeremy? What is this really about?
Speaker 12 (36:57):
If I figure it out, I promise I will tell you, Jeremy,
just please, whatever you can tell me about ways to
stop them or even just ward them off.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
I really appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (37:07):
Just just humor me here.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
It really depends on the type you're dealing with. There's
all sorts of things, turning your clothes inside out. Avoiding
fairy circles, of course, but circles of all kinds can
be problematic. A rooster's crow or church bells have been
said to scare them away. I can send you a
list of all the methods I'm aware of, if you like,
that would be amazing.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
Selfie, Thank you. Thanks, You've already been a huge help.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
Sure you'll bring me back if you find yourself in
over your head.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
That's why I caught you in the first place.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
Are you This sounds ridiculous? Are you okay?
Speaker 4 (37:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 12 (37:50):
I I think I've got.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
It all under control.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
Of course, you've got it under control. I always do.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Wow. Fuck, I know. Are you okay? My whole body
is sore, but I am alive.
Speaker 7 (38:12):
I cannot believe I turned down your offer to join you.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
Next time I go monster hunting, I'll insist.
Speaker 7 (38:20):
I appreciate that. Hey, thanks for meeting me here. By
the way, I was going to suggest hawk a mocks.
Speaker 12 (38:26):
But yeah, Well, weirdly, Freetown Forest feel safer at the moment,
even if Peyton is hiding around.
Speaker 7 (38:31):
Here somewhere I'm sorry again for not being able to
help with her.
Speaker 12 (38:35):
No, No, it was fine. It was a long shot.
I just wish I knew if I could trust her.
Names are really fucked up here. Things are certainly fucked
up here. There is just a lot at stake for me.
I don't even know how to.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
I don't know how to protect myself from a sasquatch.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Jeremy, it sounds like it was pretty terrifying.
Speaker 12 (39:00):
Yeah, and if Peyton hadn't shown up, I probably would
be dead.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
My dad was right. I'm an academic. I'm not the
person who fights monsters. Here.
Speaker 7 (39:11):
Let me show you something what I'm not poisonous. I
promise it'll be easier if I just guide your hand.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Trust me.
Speaker 7 (39:22):
Okay, so move your hand in a bee like this,
and then moved to center and bring it all the
way down. Okay, now you do it.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Okay, I know it feels goofy.
Speaker 7 (39:40):
Let's try it all right, the.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
Center down, and I'm supposed to do what exactly?
Speaker 7 (39:50):
Yeah, well, it's supposed to banish monsters or trap them
or something. Honestly, I haven't had the opportunity to try,
but see his keep running into them for real?
Speaker 4 (40:01):
Well, that'll be an experiment for next time.
Speaker 7 (40:03):
Yeah, report back to me. I'm dying to know.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
If it works.
Speaker 7 (40:08):
Where'd you learn that there was this other legend tripper
a while back? I met her at some conference or other.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
There are legend tripper conferences.
Speaker 7 (40:18):
You're telling me you haven't been to anything like that.
Speaker 12 (40:21):
No, no, no, of course I've been to paranormal conventions
and academic conferences. I just haven't met a whole lot
of uh, monster hunters in one place.
Speaker 7 (40:30):
Okay, well, maybe conference was putting a bit strongly, but
these communities are all tied in together, and there are
meetups from time to time. I as she picked it up
from some guy in Norway.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
So it's some kind of old Norse room.
Speaker 7 (40:44):
Yeah, so she said it translates to protection. I think,
now maybe you know how to fight monsters.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
Well, here's hoping that I never have to use it.
Speaker 7 (40:54):
Come on, you're telling me there's not even a little
part of you that's dying to see something else.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
It was genuinely, really frightening. I would not. Oh shit, yeah, okay,
maybe right, of.
Speaker 7 (41:12):
Course I am. I mean, after all this time studying
and teaching all of this stuff for years, you actually
get to witness it. I'd be fucking jealous if it
wasn't so cool.
Speaker 12 (41:26):
Yeah, well, you keep hanging out in these forests and
swamps and you might see something yourself soon.
Speaker 7 (41:30):
Maybe I just need to hang out with you more.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
Well, I guess it's worth a shop.
Speaker 7 (41:36):
Here's the spirit.
Speaker 5 (41:51):
You know.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
I was expecting to see you, but not so soon.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
I don't think we really got to finish our conversation earlier.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
And what conversation was that?
Speaker 4 (42:02):
The one about how I broke everything.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
I seem to remember your son having quite a lot
to say about that subject.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
It's going to get much worse very quickly.
Speaker 5 (42:14):
Isn't it.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (42:17):
I believe so.
Speaker 11 (42:18):
And you think I'm the only one who can fix it,
not the only one, just the right one.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
What would I have to do?
Speaker 1 (42:43):
This episode of Bridgewater was written by Lauren Shippen and
directed by Brendan Patrick Hughes Assistant director Sarah Kleine. Sound
designed by Vincent de Johnny Rima El Kali, Josh Thain,
and Trevor Young, with music by Chad Lawson. Starring Misha
Collins as Jeremy Bradshaw, Melissa Ponzio as Anne Becker, Alan
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Tudick as Thomas Bradshaw, Karen Sony as Vipen Kurana, Sabra
May as Olivia Hoskins, Cheryl Umanya as Officer Bautista, Will
Wheaton as Captain Haddock, Tricia Helfer as the Legend Tripper,
Stephen Guarino as Doctor Edwards nand Mi Siu Dambe as
(43:25):
Peyton Blake, Hillary Burton Morgan as Shelley Hoskins, Nicky McCauley
as Celeste, and Victoria Grace as Katie Franks, with additional
voice acting by Greta Gould, Shelby Young, Adam o'byrn Monte, Markham,
Charlie Bergman, and Tarren Westbrook. Executive producers Aaron Manke, Misha Collins,
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Thain and Trevor Young. Bridgewater was created by me Aaron
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
How did you?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I'll explain everything, but you need to come with me.
This part of the swamp isn't protected.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Why don't you put down that knife first?
Speaker 5 (00:24):
Well?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
There, Thomas, you're looking surprisingly well and this wasn't for you?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Was for that?
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Are we going to a gathering meeting?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Why would you think that?
Speaker 4 (00:34):
I don't know the symbol you carved those in the
trees when you want to meet, don't you?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
That's one purpose for them, But that's not the primary one.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
So what is the primary one?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Come on, we'll talk as we go.
Speaker 6 (00:48):
Okay, Hey, how did you know Thomas's name?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I know who all of you are, Thomas, especially why
the Houdini active pulled there?
Speaker 4 (00:59):
I'm not sure if you were impressed or annoy.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Can I be both? Aren't you going to ask me
who I am?
Speaker 4 (01:08):
We know who you are. You're a gathering leader from Virginia.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Right, I guess we all have reputations preceding us. Then
I assume you know why I'm here?
Speaker 6 (01:18):
Well, why don't you tell us, all right, here we go.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Ah, where are you taking us?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
It's not so much about the destination as it is
about getting on a bus. What I haven't had a
chance to cover the whole swamp yet, and the bus
stop was closer than the areas I have secured. The
bus will be safe.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Iron rank the favor of help. Iron buses are steeled,
which is an iron alloy.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
M The next bus should be here in three minutes.
We can talk freely on it.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
What do you mean you haven't covered the whole swamp yet.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
The ruin I carved it wasn't for community cation. It
was for protection.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
That's why that bigfoot creature vanished.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
H can't come past the boundaries of the rooms.
Speaker 7 (02:09):
Now.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I can keep it out of areas, but I can't
keep it in. So be careful if you choose to
come back.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
So you're saying it's not gone for good.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
No, just vanish to the other side for now. That's
why I'm here. A lot of things are not where
they should be.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Yeah, we've figured that out.
Speaker 8 (02:30):
On our own.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Does that also mean you figured out what's causing it?
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Well, yeah, we know that something is off balance.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
You think things are not just off balance, Jeremy. They
are broken.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Because of you.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Me.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
What did I do? I was trapped for forty years?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Exactly. You should never have come back out.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
What do you mean he shouldn't have come back.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Thomas was in there for a reason and he should
have stayed there.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
How dare you say that?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Hey, hey, listen, don't be mad at me. I'm just
the messenger.
Speaker 9 (03:46):
Oh yeah, and who exactly is the source.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Of this message the other side?
Speaker 9 (03:52):
Oh cool, So you've got like a buddy over there
or something.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I'm not trying to come here and mess up your life, Jeremy, No.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
You're just coming to murder my father.
Speaker 10 (04:03):
Again.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
That wasn't me, That wasn't any member of the gathering,
or even a member back then.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
Oh sure there was an offshoot. Yeah, we've heard that
all before. Then.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
You know, I'm right. You have no reason to take
your anger out on me.
Speaker 11 (04:18):
Given that I'm the only one here who's actually the
victim of an attempted murder.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
I think I could be angry at whoever I want.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
That's fair, And I know this doesn't mean anything to you.
I wasn't even alive when you were pushed into the
liminal but I am sorry for what happened to you.
It wasn't right not to mention it didn't even work.
The liminal mm hmm, that's what we call it. Where
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Thomas was and your solution.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Is just a thrown back again.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Do you know exactly what you're dealing with here?
Speaker 6 (04:53):
We have some idea, yeah, then.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
You know who's on the other side, what that place is.
Or you have a bunch of half baked theories but
not enough solid proof to connect all the dots.
Speaker 12 (05:09):
Well, we've been thinking maybe it's the Fay realm okay,
and considering the way you reacted to my iron assumption.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Yeah, okay, so you're not totally clueless.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
So that is what's doing this.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
The Fay Court, the Hidden People, the Secret Commonwealth, whatever
you want to call it, non human beings who reign
over a kingdom that lays just beyond a liminal space,
who could destroy all of us with ease if they
so chose.
Speaker 12 (05:36):
If that were true, wouldn't they have done it by now?
I mean it certainly feels like they've been trying at
least here.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
They made a deal centuries ago. What do you We
don't bother them, They don't bother us. Everybody stays happy
and ignorant.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
And we have to give them something like a human life.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
It's different for each doorway here, Virginia, Muda, Mattlock, the
Dragon's triangle places where the veil between worlds is thinnest,
where the other side is accessible. There has to be
something between here and there, hence the liminal where you
were trapped with someone else. I'm assuming how did you
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know that it's similar in Virginia. Well, the need for
two souls is at least two souls, one that has
to be new every forty years. That's my understanding of
how Bridgewater works.
Speaker 12 (06:33):
And he wasn't willing, so so things have been hinky
here for a while.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yes, it's not a deal breaker for the Fay realm,
the willingness bit, but having two residents of the liminal
that's non negotiable. It keeps things nice and closed.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
So without me, the.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Gates are wide open for anyone to waltz into the
kingdom or out of it.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Okay, so how do we close it?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
We follow the terms of the deal.
Speaker 11 (07:03):
Even if I went back in Alden wouldn't be able
to come out, or we'd be stuck with the same problem.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
I take it Alden as the other person in there. No,
they wouldn't be able to come out either.
Speaker 12 (07:14):
Okay, well that's a mood point. Because you are not
going back in there.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Someone has to or people are going to die.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Whoa, whoa. We do not know that you think.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
You would have been able to defend yourselves against that beast.
That's not your storybook, sasquash Jeremy. We've got similar creatures
in the South, bear like things that can stand on
two legs, take down trees. There's the Faky monster, the
Ozak Howler.
Speaker 12 (07:42):
And wait wait, the faky monster that's Arkansas, right, and
it kills livestock.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
Right, then, maybe what we just saw is the thing
that killed the cows.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
That's exactly my point. These monsters are not gonna stop
at a visceray and cows, which is why we need
to fix this.
Speaker 11 (08:04):
Doesn't have to be me though, right, Whatever deal exists
doesn't stipulate a specific person.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
No, it doesn't have to be you. But to be
really honest, I don't know who else would willingly go
in there.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Why would we trust her on this?
Speaker 13 (08:20):
Why would we trust you on this? We don't even
know you. And the gathering hasn't exactly been.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Good to us. I have no reason to lie to you.
Speaker 13 (08:26):
Even if you are telling the truth, that doesn't mean
that there's not something else we can do. Okay, you
got rid of that beast, the howler thing, whatever, just
very easily. You just teach us how to do that,
and we can take care of this area.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
It doesn't work like that. I told you I can
keep things out by creating a protective boundary, but I
can't keep anything in. They'd be free to rome elsewhere.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Can we kill them?
Speaker 12 (08:54):
They are flesh and blood, presumably right, so we figure
out how we can take them down.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
The monsters coming from the other side are not your
biggest problem.
Speaker 9 (09:04):
I'd say they're pretty urgent concern.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
If the terms of the deal aren't honored, the Fae
Realm won't stick to its side of the veil.
Speaker 9 (09:12):
Mean what, we're gonna send more monsters through?
Speaker 4 (09:15):
What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (09:16):
They won't have to The boundary will collapse, the two
worlds bleeding into one another, causing problems we can't even imagine.
The deal must be honored.
Speaker 9 (09:29):
It sounds like we need to renegotiate this deal.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Yeah, I don't think you really comprehend what we're dealing
with here, Jeremy. This is old magic. It's not something
that can be altered or undone. It's like gravity. We
have to bend to it.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Humans have found plenty of ways to defy gravity.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
But we always have to come back down always.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
And do you want to chime in here?
Speaker 6 (09:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Dad, I think she's right. We may not have a choice, esays,
what is happening here.
Speaker 13 (10:03):
We met her five minutes ago, and you're just taking
everything she says at face value.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
I'm not saying that we should just give up, but
thank you.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
No, Jeremy's right, we don't have any reason to trust you.
Your predecessor was slippery at best and manipulative at worst.
I've known her a lot longer. So until you have
proof of what you're saying, and I'm not even sure
what that proof would look like, we're going to keep
doing what we've been doing and figure things out the old.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Fashioned way, grasping for straws in the darkness.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Investigate.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
You know what, Fine, I can't force any of you
to do anything. We don't know how disastrous that is,
So go ahead, do your own investigating, but do it
quickly and when you finally figure out that I'm telling
the truth, come and find me, all right?
Speaker 14 (11:00):
All right?
Speaker 6 (11:01):
So have you moved into Celeste house too? Huh? Stepped
into her whole life.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
I'm not her permanent replacement. Besides, I wanted to keep
an eye on things, so I'm staying in Freetown Forest.
That safe, I'm protected, all right. Listen, follow the ruins
from the East Hiking Path and you will find me.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
I don't think we're gonna need to, but thanks.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Remember, don't take too long.
Speaker 12 (11:45):
Hey, it's Jeremy, Jeremy Bradshaw, the cool Professor.
Speaker 9 (11:49):
Hi.
Speaker 12 (11:51):
I know it's only been a few days and I
don't have any really important sightings to tell you about,
although I do actually want to tell you about the
Bigfoot situation at some point, but that's not why call.
I'm calling because a woman named Peyton Blake showed up
up here. She's a gathering leader from Virginia, and I
basically just wanted to know if you think she's someone
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I can trust or.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Not, if you have any inpo on her. Sorry, I
know that's a bit weird, but.
Speaker 12 (12:22):
Yeah, anything that you could tell me would be helpful,
or anything any of the other legend trippers might know
anything anyone knows would would be helpful, So you can
just you know, text me back or call me back
or whatever, any any mode of communication. And yeah, that's it, Okay,
(12:47):
thank you.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
I talked about whatever later, dork. Hey, who was that?
Speaker 12 (12:56):
Oh that was that legend tripper that I met? I
was just curious if she had any information about that
about Peyton.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah, well that was an interesting text to get yesterday.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (13:08):
Well, you know, I just thought that I should loop
you and Olivia in on the newest, weirdest developments.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
But you're okay, you know, after nearly getting ripped apart
by us Sasqua.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
I think so.
Speaker 12 (13:19):
Yeah, but I've decided to call it a hackamack howler.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Because it sounds more academic.
Speaker 9 (13:28):
I am really not looking forward to lecturing.
Speaker 12 (13:30):
Today, but I'm not sure what to do, because apparently
life doesn't stop just because evil fairies are trying to
kill your dad.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Feels like a reason to take a sick day, though.
Speaker 9 (13:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (13:42):
Unfortunately, I think if I take any more of those,
I'm going to lose the health insurance it helps me
after these monster attacks.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
I don't know. Do you want to do?
Speaker 8 (13:53):
You want to help me go over the topics for today.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
This is so fucked.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
Eloquent as always lived.
Speaker 14 (14:23):
Well, I don't know what else I'm supposed to say.
I mean, if even half of what Peyton told you
was real, then well, first of all, I'm moving the
moment I graduate.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
Okay, don't joke about that.
Speaker 14 (14:33):
I'm not joking. It's one thing to grow up hearing
stories about pug Wedges and windogows, but now there's a
whole other dimension that's one badly executed ritual away from
collapsing into our world and unleashing all sorts of hell, no,
thank you.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
That is not going to happen.
Speaker 11 (14:49):
Okay, we are going to figure out how to stop
all of this for good.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
How new, Grandpa.
Speaker 14 (14:53):
We're talking about some seriously ancient forces here, and we
can't be the only people who've wanted to fight back
against them before. I mean, what if the deal that's
been made is the best possible version of a win.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
We're not gonna think like that. Okay, We're gonna figure
out what the fey realm wants, what they can do,
and how they can be beat.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Oh sure, yes, super easy stuff.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
Well I didn't say it was gonna be easy, but
we don't have any other choice.
Speaker 14 (15:19):
All right, what do you need me to do?
Speaker 6 (15:22):
You still want to help with all this?
Speaker 14 (15:25):
Do I want to prevent the evil fairy apocalypse?
Speaker 8 (15:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, that'd be nice.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
All right.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
I prefer you stayed inside as much as possible, because
I don't like how close that dog got to you.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yeah, you and me both?
Speaker 6 (15:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
What needs doing?
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Ah?
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Well, let's see. Jeremy's chasing down some information on the
fay realm. Vivian's working on some kind of map. I
have no idea.
Speaker 14 (15:49):
He's using all the different reported sightings to try and
track creature's movements.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
Fantastic, And I'm gonna go and see if Doc Edward's
got any think from his lab examination of the cow.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
So I could use a hand.
Speaker 11 (16:03):
Okay, I think we need to find out more about
what happened to Olden.
Speaker 14 (16:08):
Oh yeah, sure, I can help you with that.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
All right, all right, well, I'll be back in a bit.
Call me if the house starts to shake again.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Oh haha, wait, what do you mean again? H what
happened now?
Speaker 6 (16:20):
I'll explain later. I'm sure he'll be fine.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Nanna, we'll be fine, Olivia.
Speaker 14 (16:27):
You know, the more you both say that less I think.
Speaker 9 (16:30):
You believe it.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
I don't know what else to say. I have to
believe it will all be okay.
Speaker 14 (16:33):
Right, right, of course, I'm sure it will be. And
I'm surprised you didn't want to help Jeremy with his research.
I'm sure he'd love to spend more.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Time with you.
Speaker 11 (16:43):
It wasn't really something I could help with. He had
to go to work anyway, and he's calling up an
old friend from Oxford. Did you know that he studied.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
There for a semester. I didn't.
Speaker 14 (16:54):
I mean I didn't really know him all that well,
we only met, like just got a few weeks ago.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Right of course, you two didn't even know each other existed. Yeah,
how do you feel Anne? Did you forget mom? Shelly?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I'd take it Anne's out.
Speaker 11 (17:10):
Yes, yes, you just missed her, but I'm sure she'd
be right back. We could call her on her cellular phone.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, yeah, probably better. She's not here. Okay, hey, live,
would you mind giving us a minute?
Speaker 14 (17:26):
Oh yeah, sure, I'll just take my laptop to the
guest room and start doing that research.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Okay, Well, I would say that I'm sorry for just
dropping by unexpectedly, but.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Yeah, I guess I take the price for that. Huh.
Speaker 11 (17:48):
Olivia told me she explained everything to you, or tried
to at least, but that she needed some time. I
would have come to see you if I know.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
It's fine to be honest, I still need time. But
I was driving to work and was about to pass
the turn to my mom's house, and before I knew it,
I was driving over here. And I wasn't even planning
on coming in until I saw my mom's carpool away.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
I know she really wants to talk to you. Do
you want to sit or I can make you some coffee?
I barely understand. And the machine it's got these weird
plastic pods.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
But I'm sure I don't know how long I can stay. Right,
You've really just been gone for forty years and just
blinked out of and back into existence.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Not exactly, I was somewhere all this time.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Right right, Yes, it was some magical in between voice.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
It sounds crazy, I know.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Well I don't think that you do. You don't even
look old enough to be the father to a teenager,
let alone, you know.
Speaker 10 (19:05):
Yeah, I know freak me out too, that you're really yeah, yeah,
I'm really your dad and you have to know, Shelley,
I never wanted to leave you or Jeremy and and I.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
We had a plan. We were going to be a family.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
But then you got sucked into some other dementia.
Speaker 11 (19:29):
I know it sounds about as believable as I'm going
out for cigarettes.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
I'll be right back.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
But yeah, at least it's not cliche.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
At least there's that, Shelley, why are you here?
Speaker 8 (19:47):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
It was Olivia researching, by the way. When she left
this morning, she said, something happened.
Speaker 11 (19:52):
Oh, we met someone who knows a lot more than
we do.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
And well, the.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Situation is, it's it's complicated.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
There was a boy with me in that other place.
It was also trapped in Olivia.
Speaker 11 (20:08):
She's helping me to try to find out more about
him so that maybe we can help him.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Is another.
Speaker 11 (20:15):
A boy from a long time ago.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
So this thing, whatever it is, it does take children.
Speaker 11 (20:26):
Yes, I don't know if that's the preferred sacrifice.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
What sacrifice.
Speaker 11 (20:34):
There's some sort of balance sheet. That other place needs
two people at all times. I ended up there by mistake.
I think I think maybe it wanted Jeremy back then.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah, my mom did mention something about him. Going missing one.
Speaker 11 (20:52):
We got him back, just like you got your boy back.
He's not in danger anymore.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
We'll forgive me if I don't take you at your
word that I'm keeping him at his grandparents for the
foreseeable future, his other grandparents.
Speaker 11 (21:07):
I'd like to meet him someday, if that's okay.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I don't think so, I mean, at least not. You know,
I honestly have no idea. What's okay?
Speaker 3 (21:20):
You know I don't know you.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I know no, I mean, I don't even have stories
about you. Mom did not tell me anything. She never
talked about you.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
I never would have told her to do that.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Well, Anne Becker does whatever it is she wants, and
for some reason, she didn't want me to know that
you were my dad.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
I still am.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
No.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
You don't just get to claim that you've been gone
forty years and we never I mean, we never met,
and you've never been a father to me.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
You're right, but I.
Speaker 11 (22:12):
I thought about you every single day. I understand that
you're angry, I do, and confused and frustrated.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
I am too.
Speaker 11 (22:23):
I was just figuring out how to be a dad,
and then I was ripped away from it, from the
chance to watch Jeremy grow up, the chance to meet you,
But that doesn't mean being a father was ripped out
of me. Because there was Alden, that other kid. She
needed me, and I did figure it out for him.
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So in the times when I let myself imagine what
it would be like to come back, I actually felt prepared.
I mean proud of who I'd become, the kind of
father I was turning into. So to come back and
find that my son has well passed the point of
meeting a parent and my daughter doesn't want any kind
of father at all, I feel untethered.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Well, I'm sure Jeremy is thrilled to have you back.
He remembers you growing up. You could tell he lost you.
He was carrying that hole with him everywhere, and.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
It seems like he turned into a good man in
spite of it. I don't know.
Speaker 11 (23:29):
I'm still getting to know him, but he seems smart,
protective of the people in his life.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Like me. I'm feeling a bit like a fifth wheel,
like he doesn't need anything returned to him. Then there's you.
I really don't know you, but I can tell you're
strong and you've raised an amazing daughter.
Speaker 11 (23:51):
I'm glad you didn't grow up like Jeremy, feeling like
a part of you was missing.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
But I still want to belong to you if you'd
ever had me.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Of course, I felt like something was missing.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
I just.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I didn't know what exactly to miss.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Well, whatever it is, you don't have to miss it anymore.
I'm here now, and you're I mean, you're.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Are you real? You know you're not a ghost or
a I don't even know what to ask you.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
I'm real, and I'm I don't know how many of
this works.
Speaker 11 (24:35):
But if I'll live another fifty years, or if my
body just looks young and really I'm in my seventies,
I have no idea what my life would even look
like here in twenty twenty a year. That still sounds
made up in my ears. But I know that all
these questions aren't really important. The only question that matters
to me is if you'll allow me to get to
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know you.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
I don't, I don't know, And this is all still so.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
I understand.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
I mean, I'm not saying no, I just I wanted
to come over here today to try and make it
make sense, you know, as much sense as it could.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
How's that going?
Speaker 9 (25:26):
Not great?
Speaker 5 (25:29):
I bet.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
I've always had a really hard time with the paranormal stuff.
You know, my teenage rebellion was becoming as pragmatic and
straight edged as.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Possible a model teenager, were you.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Well, no, I would not say that. I was still
pretty awful with the mootiness and shouting matches and awful boyfriends.
Speaker 11 (25:50):
God, you and Jeremy never, oh God, no, no, no,
Jesus Christ, I would have been.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Look, I'm barely registering that I have my father who
is alive. I think the question of a half brother
is just going to have to sit on the back
burner for a minute.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Okay, understandable, But no.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
No, Jeremy and I didn't overlap in school much. I
have no idea what kind of teenager he was at home.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
I'm sorry I missed it all.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
I really should get going to work.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Wait, yeah, thank you, you know for coming by. Maybe
we could continue the conversation at some point.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Yeah, maybe, Oh God, what is it, I have your nose?
Jeremy doesn't, but I do.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Yeah, you do.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Tell Olivia's here at home, so.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Now let go. I have no idea, but thank you
for talking to her, for trying.
Speaker 14 (27:17):
I didn't mean to overhear well, actually, I was totally
eavesdropping when she asked if you were real you were
talking around something.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Not a lot gets past you.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Huh, you're not sure you're going to stay.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
If I have anything to say about it, I will.
Speaker 11 (27:34):
I'll get Alden out, I'll shut down the fay realm,
I'll live my life.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Right.
Speaker 11 (27:41):
But I don't know Jeremy's worried something's happening to me,
or that the liminal might take me back?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Is that something you're worried about?
Speaker 11 (27:49):
Peyton sent that beast back to the other side with
a simple carving. What's to say that same thing couldn't
happen to me or to anyone that it was as
easy as drawing a symbol somewhere.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
But you don't belong there.
Speaker 14 (28:06):
That sasquatch was from the other side, so that room
sent it back. You're not from the liminal.
Speaker 11 (28:13):
I've spent more years there than I did here. Maybe
it sees me as part of it, and I keep
I keep feeling sick or tired, dizzy. That's what makes
me wonder if I'm not actually as young as I appear.
Speaker 14 (28:31):
Do you feel like you're in a seventy year old's body?
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Oh?
Speaker 11 (28:35):
But that doesn't change the fact that I'm sitting here
with my twenty two year old granddaughter. Oh, I just
realized I'm dumping all of my problems on I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
You're a kid. You shouldn't have to listen to the
adults in your life worry like this.
Speaker 14 (28:48):
Okay, first of all, I'm not a kid, and second
of all, I know we're genetically a few generations apart,
but I mean the reality of it just feels like
we're cousins or something.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
You don't feel weird about listening to all your grandpa's fears.
Speaker 14 (29:03):
Oh, I feel weird about literally everything that's happening in
my life right now. But that doesn't have to be
a bad thing.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Besides, who else are you going to talk to?
Speaker 14 (29:13):
You know, like four people, and one of them is
your long lost love and another is your son.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
You might be right. I just don't want to worry them.
I know, not that I want to worry you.
Speaker 14 (29:26):
No, I know it's okay, Like, you don't have to explain,
And after all, we don't really know each other, do we.
With Nana, you have this whole complicated history, and you
knew my mom existed. You didn't know to expect me
and with Jeremy.
Speaker 11 (29:47):
I don't know how to talk to Jeremy. He's still
a little boy in my mind. So sometimes when I
look at him now, I have to remind myself that
he's the same person, not just some man i've met.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
But there's other times.
Speaker 11 (30:07):
Where I feel like I'm arguing with him like I
would have if I'd been around when he was growing up.
Speaker 14 (30:12):
Well, for what it's worth, I think Jeremy does need you.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
You're not a fifth wheel.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
It's kind of you to say.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I mean it.
Speaker 14 (30:21):
Look, I may not know Jeremy well, but I've gotten
to know Vippen a bit, and I think he might
be the person who knows Jeremy.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Best, isn't he Jeremy's ta.
Speaker 14 (30:29):
Yeah exactly. They've been working together for a few years,
and Vippen called him Professor Bradshaw until like, I don't
know a week ago, but I think Vippen is the
closest thing that Jeremy has to a best friend.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Really, that's what I mean.
Speaker 14 (30:45):
He's not. I just don't know how full his life is,
or how full it was before all of this happened.
Vippen said that Jeremy gave him a whole speech about
not turning out like him, telling Vippen to make sure
he had a life outside of work and all that.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
I'm not sure that this makes me feel better or worse.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 14 (31:04):
Sorry, I'm not exactly the best at PEP talks.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
You know what, I think you're doing just fine?
Speaker 12 (31:21):
Hello, Sophie, it's Jeremy Bradshaw. I know it's been forever, Jeremy.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
Good lord. I didn't think i'd ever hear from you again.
Speaker 12 (31:31):
Oh come on, well, I'm sorry. I know I'm terrible
at keeping in touch.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
It goes both ways. I imagine you've been quite busy.
You're back in the Bridgewater Triangle.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Right, Yeah, I've been back for a while.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Must have your hands full with all sorts of speaks.
Speaker 9 (31:48):
No less than I'm sure you have in Pluckley.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
You're still there.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
I'm actually back at Oxford, if you can believe it.
Speaker 9 (31:54):
What are you going for another degree?
Speaker 5 (31:57):
Handing them out? In fact, I'm a professor like you.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
Oh wow, an Oxford professor. Wow.
Speaker 12 (32:06):
Okay, well, I guess you've reached the apex for anyone
in our discipline.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Congrats.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
I don't get me wrong, I'm still hoping to someday
find fame and fortune as the first person to provide
definitive proof of the paranormal. But twelve years in the
most haunted village in Britain and I didn't see a
single ghost.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Sorry, no, you're not.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
You always knew none of it was real.
Speaker 9 (32:30):
What am I hearing? Has Sophie Burton become a skeptic?
Speaker 5 (32:34):
I'm skirting dangerously close.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Well, I guess time does funny things to all of us.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
Don't tell me that you believe.
Speaker 12 (32:42):
No, no, but I would say that I am. I
am working on keeping an open mind.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
I'm impressed. Is that why you're calling me up out
of the blue? You need me to give you my
old ghosts a real shpiel?
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Uh, not exactly.
Speaker 12 (32:58):
I've actually been trying to expand my expertise, hence the
open mind, and I'm working on something that's a bit
outside of my comfort zone. Okay, I'm trying to write
a lecture that covers the Fay realm. And I realized
that I don't actually really know much beyond the basics
because it's never really been much of a thing in Bridgewater,
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so I haven't even bothered before.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
What's making you want to bother now just curiosity. Well,
you certainly called the right person. We're chocolate block for
the fath o here.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Yeah, that's what I was hoping.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
What exactly do you want to know? It's fairly expensive.
Speaker 12 (33:37):
Well, that's why I wanted to talk to an expert
directly instead of just diving into my books.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
Is there a particular region or myth origin you're looking at?
Speaker 9 (33:45):
I guess the biggest question is friend or foe.
Speaker 12 (33:51):
Yeah. So I feel like the popular cultural representation is
fairly positive overall, tinker Bell and the like, But I
know there's a lot of darker versions of fay Realm.
More so, I'd love to know which side.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
To come down on.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
Well, there's really not one definitive answer to that question.
For as long as there have been fay Realm legends,
there's been good and bad.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
But there is a distinction.
Speaker 9 (34:19):
I mean, there are different there are different groups, right.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
They can be In Scottish law, there's the Sealy Court
and Uncaly Court. Both are fay courts, so therefore dangerous.
But the Sely won't go out of their way to
hurt humans, but the Uncily Court will. There are related
to a whole manner of evil creatures over here, boggots,
(34:42):
habby lovers, creatures of the devil. Essentially, what do the
Fay want? Well, just general mischief, not the cute fun
kind mind, more of the beating and possessing variety you mentioned.
Speaker 9 (34:55):
The courts are those physical courts.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
Some times there's a lot of law around fairy lands.
Sometimes they're called other worlds or underworlds, even herd fairy kingdom.
And sometimes they're a physical place, sometimes just a ritual
or the very act of doing magic.
Speaker 12 (35:14):
Okay, So if they are physical places, presumably human beings
could enter into one of these lands, and.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
There aren't many legends that explore that idea plenty of
fiction and films, but original myth is mostly the Fay
courts coming over to the human realm.
Speaker 9 (35:29):
How about making deals with humans?
Speaker 5 (35:32):
Oh? Yes, Fay contracts very tricky things. Their story is
you should never accept a gift from a theory, especially food,
never get into debt with them, never make any promises,
and don't even give them your name in the case
of creatures like.
Speaker 9 (35:47):
So basically avoid them at all casts exactly.
Speaker 12 (35:50):
Okay, So hypothetically, what if there is an existing contract,
can you break it?
Speaker 5 (36:00):
I have absolutely no idea. Are you in law school? Now?
Is your class on fairy contract law?
Speaker 9 (36:08):
I'm just trying to create a full picture.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
Well, I mean, I've given a few lectures on the
famous and there's so much to cover. It's honestly best
to keep things surface level.
Speaker 12 (36:18):
If I were you, Okay, sure, But let's say I
was doing fairy contract law.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
What would I teach my students to never.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
Enter a contract with a fairy no matter what. But
if they had, they aren't going to let a contract
be broken. The only way I could see out of
it would be if you had something on the fay
court that could neutralize it. In a lot of law,
they hate being in debt. If there was a mutual
debt that could be exploited, maybe the slate would be
(36:47):
wiped clean. But more likely, you just have a very
angry and violent spirit after you.
Speaker 9 (36:52):
Okay, is there a way to kill them?
Speaker 5 (36:54):
Jeremy? What is this really about?
Speaker 12 (36:57):
If I figure it out, I promise I will tell you, Jeremy,
just please, whatever you can tell me about ways to
stop them or even just ward them off.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
I really appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (37:07):
Just just humor me here.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
It really depends on the type you're dealing with. There's
all sorts of things, turning your clothes inside out. Avoiding
fairy circles, of course, but circles of all kinds can
be problematic. A rooster's crow or church bells have been
said to scare them away. I can send you a
list of all the methods I'm aware of, if you like,
that would be amazing.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
Selfie, Thank you. Thanks, You've already been a huge help.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
Sure you'll bring me back if you find yourself in
over your head.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
That's why I caught you in the first place.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
Are you This sounds ridiculous? Are you okay?
Speaker 4 (37:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 12 (37:50):
I I think I've got.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
It all under control.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
Of course, you've got it under control. I always do.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Wow. Fuck, I know. Are you okay? My whole body
is sore, but I am alive.
Speaker 7 (38:12):
I cannot believe I turned down your offer to join you.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
Next time I go monster hunting, I'll insist.
Speaker 7 (38:20):
I appreciate that. Hey, thanks for meeting me here. By
the way, I was going to suggest hawk a mocks.
Speaker 12 (38:26):
But yeah, Well, weirdly, Freetown Forest feel safer at the moment,
even if Peyton is hiding around.
Speaker 7 (38:31):
Here somewhere I'm sorry again for not being able to
help with her.
Speaker 12 (38:35):
No, No, it was fine. It was a long shot.
I just wish I knew if I could trust her.
Names are really fucked up here. Things are certainly fucked
up here. There is just a lot at stake for me.
I don't even know how to.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
I don't know how to protect myself from a sasquatch.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Jeremy, it sounds like it was pretty terrifying.
Speaker 12 (39:00):
Yeah, and if Peyton hadn't shown up, I probably would
be dead.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
My dad was right. I'm an academic. I'm not the
person who fights monsters. Here.
Speaker 7 (39:11):
Let me show you something what I'm not poisonous. I
promise it'll be easier if I just guide your hand.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Trust me.
Speaker 7 (39:22):
Okay, so move your hand in a bee like this,
and then moved to center and bring it all the
way down. Okay, now you do it.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Okay, I know it feels goofy.
Speaker 7 (39:40):
Let's try it all right, the.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
Center down, and I'm supposed to do what exactly?
Speaker 7 (39:50):
Yeah, well, it's supposed to banish monsters or trap them
or something. Honestly, I haven't had the opportunity to try,
but see his keep running into them for real?
Speaker 4 (40:01):
Well, that'll be an experiment for next time.
Speaker 7 (40:03):
Yeah, report back to me. I'm dying to know.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
If it works.
Speaker 7 (40:08):
Where'd you learn that there was this other legend tripper
a while back? I met her at some conference or other.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
There are legend tripper conferences.
Speaker 7 (40:18):
You're telling me you haven't been to anything like that.
Speaker 12 (40:21):
No, no, no, of course I've been to paranormal conventions
and academic conferences. I just haven't met a whole lot
of uh, monster hunters in one place.
Speaker 7 (40:30):
Okay, well, maybe conference was putting a bit strongly, but
these communities are all tied in together, and there are
meetups from time to time. I as she picked it up
from some guy in Norway.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
So it's some kind of old Norse room.
Speaker 7 (40:44):
Yeah, so she said it translates to protection. I think,
now maybe you know how to fight monsters.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
Well, here's hoping that I never have to use it.
Speaker 7 (40:54):
Come on, you're telling me there's not even a little
part of you that's dying to see something else.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
It was genuinely, really frightening. I would not. Oh shit, yeah, okay,
maybe right, of.
Speaker 7 (41:12):
Course I am. I mean, after all this time studying
and teaching all of this stuff for years, you actually
get to witness it. I'd be fucking jealous if it
wasn't so cool.
Speaker 12 (41:26):
Yeah, well, you keep hanging out in these forests and
swamps and you might see something yourself soon.
Speaker 7 (41:30):
Maybe I just need to hang out with you more.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
Well, I guess it's worth a shop.
Speaker 7 (41:36):
Here's the spirit.
Speaker 5 (41:51):
You know.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
I was expecting to see you, but not so soon.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
I don't think we really got to finish our conversation earlier.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
And what conversation was that?
Speaker 4 (42:02):
The one about how I broke everything.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
I seem to remember your son having quite a lot
to say about that subject.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
It's going to get much worse very quickly.
Speaker 5 (42:14):
Isn't it.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (42:17):
I believe so.
Speaker 11 (42:18):
And you think I'm the only one who can fix it,
not the only one, just the right one.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
What would I have to do?
Speaker 1 (42:43):
This episode of Bridgewater was written by Lauren Shippen and
directed by Brendan Patrick Hughes Assistant director Sarah Kleine. Sound
designed by Vincent de Johnny Rima El Kali, Josh Thain,
and Trevor Young, with music by Chad Lawson. Starring Misha
Collins as Jeremy Bradshaw, Melissa Ponzio as Anne Becker, Alan
(43:04):
Tudick as Thomas Bradshaw, Karen Sony as Vipen Kurana, Sabra
May as Olivia Hoskins, Cheryl Umanya as Officer Bautista, Will
Wheaton as Captain Haddock, Tricia Helfer as the Legend Tripper,
Stephen Guarino as Doctor Edwards nand Mi Siu Dambe as
(43:25):
Peyton Blake, Hillary Burton Morgan as Shelley Hoskins, Nicky McCauley
as Celeste, and Victoria Grace as Katie Franks, with additional
voice acting by Greta Gould, Shelby Young, Adam o'byrn Monte, Markham,
Charlie Bergman, and Tarren Westbrook. Executive producers Aaron Manke, Misha Collins,
(43:46):
Lauren Shippen, Matt Frederick, and Alexander Williams. Supervising producers Josh
Thain and Trevor Young. Bridgewater was created by me Aaron
Manke and is a production of Grim and Mild and
iHeart three D Audio. Learn more about the show over
at Grimandmild dot com, slash Bridgewater, and find more podcasts
from iHeartRadio on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever
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you listen to your favorite shows and as always, thanks
for listening.
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