February 24, 2023 • 30 mins
As the mysteries in the Bridgewater Triangle continue to change shape, Jeremy and Thomas seek out answers in the past.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
This way, it's this way.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Wait, it's coming from over here, so last, so last,
come on, hurry there.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Wait, dad, dad, Jeremy? Who's we have got to stop
meeting like this?
Speaker 5 (00:47):
Oh it's just you?
Speaker 6 (00:49):
Wow? Am I already such old news?
Speaker 5 (00:51):
That is not what I meant.
Speaker 6 (00:52):
I just sorry. I thought you were bigfoot? Maybe what?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Well, I assume we're here for the same reason, right,
the attack on the campers, right, yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
Right, right, I guess I should have expected to see you.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
Seems like you and your friends really dodged a bullet.
Holy crap.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Yeah, I mean the ground was torn to shreds, and
from what they said about the dead camper on the news,
that was Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
I'm starting to think that it was a bad idea
coming back here.
Speaker 6 (01:18):
Wait did you did I what? No? Never mind that
you're gonna think I'm nuts.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
No, Well, I think I think we're at the point
where you should know that I'm the right audience for
stuff that sounds nuts.
Speaker 6 (01:30):
I thought I heard a voice, I mean just now.
But it wasn't you. It was a woman. I think
you heard that. Yeah, yeah, you did too. What do
you think it was?
Speaker 5 (01:38):
Or?
Speaker 6 (01:39):
I guess the question is who?
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Okay, so I recognized that voice, at least I think
I did.
Speaker 7 (01:44):
Well, who is it?
Speaker 5 (01:45):
It's it's someone impossible. What do you mean the woman
that I mentioned to you before, that the one who
died in free Time? Yeah, it was her voice. What?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, I know it.
Speaker 6 (01:59):
Sounds crazy, crazy, remember right?
Speaker 5 (02:01):
No, right right?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
I don't believe in ghosts. What is happening?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Well, maybe it's some kind of mimic, something pretending to
be her somehow.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
A mimic like like.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
What, well, you're the expert. But that's a thing, right,
changelings and shape shifters.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
You know, I was just talking about shape shifters with
my friend. Whatever attack the camper feels like the thing
that we saw the other day, but some of the
details aren't lining up. So we were thinking maybe there's
something that can yeah, I don't know, transform in some way,
which would explain all of the different kinds of attacks
that have been happening lately.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
Yeah, you think it's all one creature.
Speaker 8 (02:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
I don't know. I haven't actually gotten my eyes on
anything except the Howler, and that did not feel like
a shape shifter.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
This is all so strange.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
I mean, I've been feeling like things are off here,
you know, but I haven't seen anything yet. So I
think if I hadn't met you, I would think I
was going completely batch it crazy these days.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Well, I am happy that I've kept you saying. I
have to say, it's funny. No. I was also talking
to the same friend about how you're one of the
first people that I've met in a long time that
doesn't make me feel like I'm a total head case
when I talk to them.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
Well, aren't we a pair, isn't it rich?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
We're just two middle aged weirdos wandering through the wilderness,
one of us desperately trying to find a monster, the
other one tripping over them all the time.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
And amazingly, that feels like the least of my problems.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Are you saying there's more to your interest in all
of this, more than just childhood obsession?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Ah?
Speaker 6 (03:41):
Yeah, I'd like to hear about it.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
I mean, if you're willing to talk about it, that
is maybe maybe we could grab a drink sometime.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Oh, I would actually really like that.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
You don't have to sound so surprised.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
No, I'm not. You know, I just don't have a
lot of people to talk to about this stuff, or
at least the people that I do have to talk
to about it are all tangled up in it themselves.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
So well, it sounds like we'll be needing a few
drinks then, yes, what's your poison.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Let's get trashed.
Speaker 9 (04:51):
Okay, So I mean it sounds like it supports the
shape shifter theory.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Voice mimicry is so common.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Yeah, but it's too common. I'm still not sure about
the voice growing the ability to pull two people who
were standing side by side in opposite directions.
Speaker 9 (05:04):
Maybe it was just run of the mill magic, something
that messed with our perception.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Well, whatever it was, we need to be more careful.
We can't keep getting separated like that.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
We will always find each other, I promise.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Well, I want to be prepared. I've texted Vippin and
he's going to pull everything that you can about voice mimicry.
But even with the added detail of it sounding like
it was coming from two different places.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
We're looking at a lot of possibilities, still.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
So many possibilities. You know, it's funny. I always thought
it was fascinating how no matter the location or the culture,
human beings they come up with the same kinds of
monsters over and over again. There are these, you know,
culturally religiously specific ones, of course, but the basic idea
(05:50):
of shape shifters, vampires, vengeful spirits. There are iterations of
those all over the world. And now I think we're
all those people actually just seeing the exact same thing
something It's something real that they're actually seeing, and then
they add the filter of their own cultural norms at
(06:13):
the time that they saw it to shape the narrative
of that entity.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Right.
Speaker 9 (06:19):
You really love this stuff, don't, all of the folklore
and history?
Speaker 5 (06:24):
Yeah? I mean I used to, anyway, Now it feels
like I just it feels very different. Now, it feels
like it's a survival tool.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
WHOA, what happened here?
Speaker 10 (06:36):
Well it happened again?
Speaker 5 (06:37):
What what happened again?
Speaker 11 (06:39):
The creepy humming house shaking thing and happened to you
guys the other night, this time with added spooky soundtrack.
Speaker 10 (06:45):
What there was music?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Music? What kind of music?
Speaker 7 (06:48):
Oh, the kind that makes you feel like a killer
clown is going to pop out at any moment.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Killer clown.
Speaker 10 (06:52):
Yeah, it was classical, some kind of you know, string instrument.
I think maybe a harp. Music was never really my
strong suit, but.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
It was Wait wait what then? And why did that
lead you to tear apart your living room?
Speaker 10 (07:02):
Well, it sounded like it was coming from inside the house,
like somebody dn't a speaker somewhere?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Oh, come on, you did this?
Speaker 9 (07:08):
Don't you think that you would have noticed if someone
stuck a speaker cabinet behind your couch?
Speaker 5 (07:14):
That speakers can be really small now, like it's like
everything else. But you don't You don't really think that
somebody planted something here, do you? Oh?
Speaker 10 (07:25):
No, but that doesn't mean something didn't get in here anyway.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
You know, what do you mean?
Speaker 10 (07:30):
You came through the veil to our side, so I
have a bunch of monsters, So was to say that
something else couldn't have as well? I mean, I don't know, like.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Like someone who came in and planted a tiny fairy
speaker or a magic herb.
Speaker 7 (07:41):
And I told her it was unlike me.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
Come on, well then, the livey why are you helping her?
Speaker 7 (07:46):
Because what if it was coming from something that's already here.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I don't follow.
Speaker 7 (07:51):
We were thinking about the voicemails, the ones you left Thomas.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Right, voicemails.
Speaker 10 (07:56):
What we never asked you about it. When you were
trying to speak to me, trying to get the word
out about what was happening, it was coming through as
messages on my machine.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
You weren't just hearing my voice.
Speaker 9 (08:06):
I just assumed that's how I heard Celeste, just a
disembodied voice in the.
Speaker 11 (08:11):
Limital, right, But that's because there's nothing in the liminal.
So somehow, when you were speaking through the veil, it
was captured by an old message machine.
Speaker 10 (08:21):
Yeah, thank god too, because if I'd just been hearing
your voice, people would have thought I was really off
my rocker.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
You know, I think people thought you were off your rocker.
Speaker 10 (08:28):
Anywhere I am on my rocker, son.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
So wait a minute. So you think that the music
was coming from something that you already owned, that it's
from the liminal getting here somehow, I.
Speaker 10 (08:39):
Don't think it's from the liminal. I think it's from
the other side.
Speaker 9 (08:42):
It would have to be from the other side. My
whole time there, I never heard anything close to music.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Well that doesn't mean that things haven't changed. I could
Alden somehow be doing it. And are you sure? Are
you both sure that it wasn't actually singing. It's not
like the connection between here and the liminal is exactly
like Crystal Clear.
Speaker 11 (09:01):
No, not singing. Okay, it was definitely instrumental in it.
Speaker 7 (09:04):
There's something so weird about it?
Speaker 5 (09:06):
What what? What could be weirder than it? Coming from nowhere?
Speaker 11 (09:09):
It was I don't know right, nothing sounded human, nana like,
even if it was human instruments, it was like they
were being played by something that wasn't It was.
Speaker 9 (09:19):
I'm badly played off key.
Speaker 7 (09:22):
No, that's not it. I can't explain it.
Speaker 10 (09:24):
It's more like, Uh, it came with a feeling, you know.
I think that's what you're trying to get it right,
Like a feeling.
Speaker 7 (09:30):
Yeah, it came with this feeling.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Oh that can't be good.
Speaker 11 (09:34):
Well, hence trying to find some sort of reasonable explanation, you.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
Know, reasonable being an extremely relative term over here.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Okay, did have you found anything?
Speaker 10 (09:43):
Nothing? How'd you fare in the swamp? Was it that
thing that we saw kill the camper?
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Yes? Maybe it's a little unclear, but it is clear
that something something is is definitely trying to communicate with us.
Has So we heard Celestes voice.
Speaker 7 (10:02):
What what isn't she dead?
Speaker 10 (10:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (10:06):
And not in the limit A right?
Speaker 11 (10:08):
Okay, so we have no idea what we're dealing with here.
Speaker 10 (10:12):
Well what was she saying?
Speaker 8 (10:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
She was saying a bunch of stuff, trusting her uh
and it happening.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
That would be better this time?
Speaker 8 (10:20):
Right?
Speaker 10 (10:20):
What better?
Speaker 7 (10:22):
Okay, Well, that's good.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
She also said we want you and come here.
Speaker 10 (10:29):
Which is what Ethan said.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
That's right, Yeah, exactly the same thing.
Speaker 10 (10:33):
Yeah, maybe it was someone who got possessed in the
same way that Ethan did.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
It wasn't a person.
Speaker 9 (10:38):
No, that voice was coming from two different directions.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
And it was definitely Celeste or her voice at least
that I know.
Speaker 11 (10:46):
Okay, we don't really know what's on the other side yet.
Maybe it was some kind.
Speaker 7 (10:50):
Of afterlife and Celeste's spirit is trying.
Speaker 10 (10:54):
To talk to you.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
I think that that would be the best option. Honestly,
I don't know.
Speaker 9 (10:58):
Should we hold a say aunts or find a medium
medium couldn't hurt.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
I have never done a SANDS before, but I guess
I know the basics.
Speaker 10 (11:07):
I mean, I think we can probably find a medium
in Bridgewater.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Well, yeah, we have to be careful because even if
talking to the dead is possible, it doesn't mean that
there aren't a whole shitload of scammers out there.
Speaker 11 (11:20):
A medium, a medium. We need to find the right medium.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Yes, exactly, we need someone reputable. I mean, can't believe
I'm saying that, But maybe I can try to talk
to some of the other folklore folks and see a thing, no, not.
Speaker 11 (11:32):
A psychic, the right communication medium. Okay, think about it.
Thomas was able to communicate through the answering machine, Celest's
voice was coming through the swamp.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
There's no seeming connection between those things. Okay, so what
if there is a connection and we're just not seeing it.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Well, I think that describes a lot of what we're
doing right now, right.
Speaker 11 (11:55):
Sure, yeah, but maybe there's a way to get more
data to connect the dots. So, Alden, before you got here, Thomas,
did he ever try to reach out? Did he try
to contact someone over here?
Speaker 9 (12:06):
He was a scared seven year old trapped in another dimension.
He definitely tried to call out for help.
Speaker 7 (12:10):
Okay, so maybe someone heard him, and if we figure
out how they heard him, then we say.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Okay, okay, but how would we do that? They mean,
this was eighty years ago. You know his parents are
long dead, right, he had.
Speaker 7 (12:25):
A younger brother. Alden has a brother and he's still alive.
What really I found him?
Speaker 11 (12:33):
When I was looking into Alden's story, I didn't think
it was relevant. Honestly, it's not like we can tell
him anything that would give him closure after all these years.
And he was only five when Alden went missing, so
he might not even remember it happening.
Speaker 10 (12:45):
But that doesn't mean he wasn't communicated with later exactly.
Speaker 11 (12:49):
You didn't start hearing Thomas's voicemails until this year.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
Who knows when he left them?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Well, I was always calling out to you, Anne, always right.
Speaker 7 (12:59):
So maybe Alden's brother heard something he can't explain either.
You think you would talk to us, well, I mean
I think it's worth to try. And he's right here
in Bridgewater.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Hey, mister Jansen, I think thanks for agreeing to talk
to us.
Speaker 8 (13:20):
Oh please call me Lee. Not every day I get visitors.
Speaker 9 (13:24):
It's really nice to meet you, Lee. I'm Thomas and
this is Jeremy. Has your family mostly moved away?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Well?
Speaker 8 (13:31):
I never had children myself and my sister rest her soul.
Her kids live up in New Hampshire and their kids
are all grown now. So oh, they come and visit
when they can. But there's not a lot in the
way of entertainment in this place. So when they said
there were two men here to interview me for a book,
(13:52):
well that was just about me my day.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Well, we're happy to hear that, although.
Speaker 8 (14:00):
Fish to be quite confused as why you want to
talk to me.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
Well, i am a professor here at the local college,
and I'm writing a book about the region, and specifically
I'm looking at unsolved mysteries and the like. And I
know that you have lived here your entire life. I have,
and I also know that you have a personal.
Speaker 8 (14:26):
This is about all of them, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
Yes, yeah, I take it.
Speaker 9 (14:31):
You've been asked about him before a few times through
the year.
Speaker 8 (14:36):
Every now and again, someone will get their heads stuck
into all the missing person cases in Bridgewater, and my
brother is one of that. It's kept folks interest, I
think because he was so young and there was never
any evidence at all as to what happened.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 8 (14:55):
Oh I don't remember. If that's what you're here for well,
he was two years old older than me, and I
barely remember him at all.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
That must have been hard for all of you.
Speaker 8 (15:04):
My family, we we didn't really talk about it. It
was a it was a different time back then. But
I also know that, well, losing your child isn't something
you ever get over.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
And your parents, they did they ever have any guesses
or talk to you about what might have happened?
Speaker 8 (15:26):
Well, they assumed he was kidnapped, like everyone else. What
did you think? My sister, she was there right before
it happened, and she always thought it was some kind
of monster in the woods.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
I guess that would make sense when she was a
child herself.
Speaker 8 (15:45):
Right, It's not a belief she grew out of.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
And And what what did you believe?
Speaker 8 (15:54):
I always thought there was something strange about this place,
And based on the type of folk who have come
to talk to me through the years, I know I'm
not the only one. And I suspect you're not here
to ask me about whatever official investigation took place back then.
No we're not, so go on tell me whatever wild
(16:19):
theory you have.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
We actually were wondering more if you had any theories
or if there's anything through the years that you haven't
been able to explain about it.
Speaker 8 (16:31):
You may have I seen my brother's ghost tracked down
the monster that they did.
Speaker 9 (16:37):
We are not trying to make a mockery of your
family's Tragedyly, we care about Alden his story.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
But I take it a lot of the people who
have come to you through the years have just been
looking for something sensational, right.
Speaker 8 (16:52):
That's a way of putting it.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
We don't want anything but the truth. And if that
truth is that you have no memory of your brother
and nothing of his life or disappearance to share at
this point, then that's totally okay.
Speaker 8 (17:06):
What truth are you expecting to fly?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
What do you mean?
Speaker 8 (17:12):
Folks usually have an idea in their heads. You say
you want my theory, but I'm betting you have one
of your own.
Speaker 9 (17:21):
We we've heard of missing people being able to contact
their loved ones.
Speaker 8 (17:27):
I've never seen his ghost, As much as some people
might want to believe that.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Yeah, I guess we're not really talking about a ghost
so much as I don't know. Did you ever hear
of a voice of a voice that might have that
might have.
Speaker 8 (17:43):
Sounded like all, then a ghostly voice is still a ghost.
Speaker 9 (17:46):
Not ghostly, No, it would have been It would have
come from somewhere like an answering machine or a phone
or some specific place.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Or maybe any any kind of object that can produce
a sound, right, I mean, as far as we know,
be a record player or a radio, a radio, yeah, right,
it could be a radio.
Speaker 8 (18:06):
Who are you people?
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Have you heard something?
Speaker 8 (18:09):
Me? Olden? He had a little radio on his nightstand.
When I went to college, I took it with me
and I've had it ever since.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
And you you heard something from this radio, something other
than a broadcast.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
It used to act funny.
Speaker 8 (18:33):
Yeah, I'd have it tuned to one of the usual stations,
strong signal and all that, but it gets statically and well,
strange sometimes strange. How you said other people have heard
voices before of people who disappeared.
Speaker 9 (18:53):
Yes, well, we can't tell you more without violating people's privacy.
Speaker 8 (18:57):
But yes, I always thought I was imagining it.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
But you heard something.
Speaker 8 (19:05):
I don't know what it was. It sounded like a
little boy, but I always I always thought it was
interference from another broadcast. It was an old radio, and
there were so many more stations than there used to be.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
When was this?
Speaker 8 (19:23):
Let me see it? Was that was at the Green
Bank House. So the seventies, well, the eighties, maybe we.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
Do you still have that radio?
Speaker 12 (19:59):
Hello?
Speaker 10 (20:00):
Hey, Hippin, come in, Hey Vippin.
Speaker 12 (20:02):
Hey is Jeremy here?
Speaker 10 (20:03):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (20:04):
You just missed him?
Speaker 10 (20:05):
Yeah. He and Thomas went back to talk to Aldon's brother.
Oh Lee, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 12 (20:10):
Olivia and I talked about it a little bit. I
thought we agreed it wouldn't be good to tell him anything.
Speaker 11 (20:15):
No, we do, we do agree, But I realized maybe
he could tell us something that maybe maybe Aldn tried
to communicate with him the same way Thomas did with Anne.
Speaker 12 (20:25):
Oh smart, Uh, how are you guys doing after the
whole earthquake thing? I texted him, You're not the only
one apparently, I've missed quite the afternoon.
Speaker 7 (20:36):
Yeah, how was your coffee with Peyton?
Speaker 12 (20:40):
Illuminating? I'll tell you all about it. But you're okay?
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Really?
Speaker 11 (20:44):
Yeah, I mean we're okay, But I mean it can't
be good that this is the second time it's happened.
Speaker 10 (20:50):
Right, Yeah about that. I don't think anyone should be
staying here until we figure out what's going on. It
could be dangerous.
Speaker 7 (20:58):
That's a good point. Yeah, we'll figure something out.
Speaker 10 (21:01):
You could stay with me.
Speaker 12 (21:03):
I mean I only have a couch, but I could
sleep on that and you could take my bed. I
really don't mind.
Speaker 11 (21:08):
I don't actually live here, remember, Oh right, God stupid,
forget I said.
Speaker 7 (21:15):
Anything, no, no, thank you for that's a really sweet offer.
Speaker 12 (21:19):
And the offer extends to you too. I know Jeremy
doesn't have a guest room either, but between the.
Speaker 10 (21:26):
Two of us, well, I think it might be time
for us to go home with Live. But thank you?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Really?
Speaker 5 (21:36):
Are you sure?
Speaker 10 (21:37):
I don't know how much longer we can hire Thomas
from your mom live. I'm sure we could couch surf,
but you know it's time.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
So about that?
Speaker 11 (21:48):
What Thomas hasn't talked to you about what? I look,
Mom needed to know live, so I brought Thomas to
see her and christ Well it was it was, I mean,
it became fine.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
You know.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
I explained everything and she and Thomas talked.
Speaker 11 (22:06):
So I don't know, I think she shouldmight be willing
to have you this stay over.
Speaker 10 (22:10):
Would this be why maybe she's not returning any of
my calls.
Speaker 7 (22:14):
Well, she's pissed Nana, and I think she has every
right to be.
Speaker 10 (22:17):
Oh, Olivia, I am not okay with you going behind
my back like this.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
Oh, and I'm not okay with you hiding my grandfather's
identity for forty years. So yeah, I guess we're even.
Speaker 10 (22:27):
Yeah, I guess. So what should I expect then? Will
she even let me into the house?
Speaker 7 (22:34):
Fifty to fifty chance? I mean, maybe a little higher,
since it's it's just her.
Speaker 10 (22:38):
Right now, Ethan and your dad are still at his
parents right.
Speaker 7 (22:41):
Yeah, for the next week at least.
Speaker 10 (22:43):
It gives us plenty of time to talk it out.
Speaker 7 (22:45):
Well that's optimistic.
Speaker 10 (22:48):
All right, I'm gonna go call your mom, make sure
it's okay, and then pack a bag and just give
me your phone what she'll pick up for you.
Speaker 7 (22:57):
Okay, So you're just leaning into her being kissed off
at either.
Speaker 10 (23:00):
Well, it can't get any worse, can it.
Speaker 7 (23:03):
I mean, only one way to find out.
Speaker 12 (23:08):
So how do you actually feel about that?
Speaker 10 (23:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 11 (23:13):
I mean I do think my mom has settled down
a little. But putting her and Nana and Thomas and
I mean, let's be honest, probably Jeremy all in a room,
it's going to be.
Speaker 12 (23:22):
Oh yeah, I don't envy that conversation.
Speaker 7 (23:27):
Does that offer to stay applied to escaping to yours
just for an emergency drink.
Speaker 12 (23:32):
Yeah, definitely. I'm sorry about that. I didn't it was
that was so presumptuous of.
Speaker 10 (23:39):
Me, Nippin.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
You weren't propositioning me. You were making a nice offer
to a friend, you know, unless.
Speaker 12 (23:47):
No, no, no, I swear I was just friendly not
to say that. I mean, you know, I think we.
Speaker 7 (23:55):
Would you like to go out on a date sometime?
What what do you like?
Speaker 12 (24:00):
Yes, yes, definitely I would, Yes, that that.
Speaker 7 (24:04):
Would be great, good good.
Speaker 11 (24:07):
I mean not now obviously we're even like this week,
because but after we stop the end of the world
or whatever, then then.
Speaker 12 (24:14):
Maybe we'll go out to celebrate.
Speaker 10 (24:17):
Okay, perfect, all right, your mom's expecting us later.
Speaker 7 (24:22):
How'd that go?
Speaker 10 (24:23):
Well, she didn't yell at me, so so really bad.
M hm, Yeah, this is gonna be very unpleasant. All right, Vivan,
how is our favorite mystical leader?
Speaker 12 (24:35):
She was surprisingly forthcoming. Really yeah, she explained everything she knows.
The Gathering is tasked with protecting our world from the
other by keeping the gate closed through human sacrifice. Well,
she said, volunteering.
Speaker 10 (24:49):
I'm sure she did.
Speaker 12 (24:51):
It'll be her in Virginia when the time comes, their
leader goes into the liminal willingly, letting the person in
there already move on.
Speaker 7 (24:59):
She signed up for that.
Speaker 12 (25:00):
Apparently she's a legacy, and I bet she's not the
only one. The gathering is just the group here on
the East Coast. There are what sounds like hundreds of
other groups around the world doing the same thing.
Speaker 7 (25:12):
So a network of supernatural gatekeepers and literally, yeah.
Speaker 12 (25:17):
Literally, and sometimes that leads to stuff like the children
of Tichiba, people going rogue and trying to harness the
power of the Fay realm for themselves.
Speaker 7 (25:26):
What is that even possible?
Speaker 12 (25:27):
Peyton wasn't sure. She said there's a lot of magic
over there that we still don't understand, and maybe someone
could learn it, But she was pretty insistent on the
fact that the Fey are not something to be controlled.
Speaker 10 (25:40):
Did it seem like she was interested in learning that
magic herself.
Speaker 7 (25:43):
I don't.
Speaker 12 (25:44):
I don't think so. I think we can trust her.
She clearly has a lot of respect for the other side.
She doesn't think that she's more powerful than it, or
that she could try and harness it the way that
the children wanted to.
Speaker 8 (25:57):
Well.
Speaker 10 (25:57):
Respect isn't all that far from Reverend I mean when
she got rid of the sasquatch, she sent it back
instead of killing it, and always bugged me.
Speaker 12 (26:07):
She has killed monsters before, or well her dad did,
I guess, but she didn't seem bothered by that idea.
Speaker 10 (26:14):
I just want us to be careful.
Speaker 8 (26:16):
Okay.
Speaker 10 (26:16):
It all feels a little convenient that she showed up here.
Speaker 11 (26:19):
Why isn't she filling in for Celeste? I mean that
has to happen from gathering group to gathering group, right.
Speaker 12 (26:25):
She said they don't actually talk all that much, but
that she knew something was wrong up here.
Speaker 10 (26:30):
Yeah, And my question is how It's not like Bridgewater
went from having no paranormal sidings to having a bunch
of them. I mean, how would she even know that
things have gone wrong?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Now?
Speaker 12 (26:41):
Celeste always said she was attuned, right, Maybe they're taught
to connect to the veil somehow feel it when it
tears or gets thin.
Speaker 10 (26:49):
Well, that's what I'm worried about. That sounds like magic
to me. And if Peyton has learned that Anne learned
how to banish monsters back to the other side, then
what else had she learned? What could she be hiding
from us?
Speaker 7 (27:02):
I see that finding out about literal monsters that want
to kill us has not made you less suspicious of humans, Nana.
Speaker 10 (27:09):
I'm just saying I think.
Speaker 7 (27:11):
We should be careful.
Speaker 11 (27:12):
Yes, yes, yeah, Oh that's Jeremy.
Speaker 7 (27:17):
They're done at the retirement home and headed to my house.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
Oof.
Speaker 7 (27:21):
Okay, looks like it's time to face the music.
Speaker 10 (27:30):
Hey, thanks for waiting for us.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I didn't think it was a great idea to just
knock on the door.
Speaker 10 (27:35):
Are you okay? You sure you want to do this?
Speaker 9 (27:37):
I think it's a good idea for us to stay
somewhere else, and.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
She's really willing. I do want more time with her.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Should I even be here for this? I don't want
to overwhelm Shelley.
Speaker 11 (27:49):
I mean she's already been told all the really life
shattering stuff, right, and it's not like she's never met you.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Yeah, but not as her brother.
Speaker 10 (27:57):
Okay, Hey, did you guys have any luquidly?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (28:01):
We actually were able to borrow an old radio that
he thinks he may have heard Alden through back in
the seventies.
Speaker 7 (28:06):
Really, that's awesome news.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
Yeah, so we can try to communicate with the missing
boy from the nineteen forties through a radio after we
have this weird family reunion with my new half sister
and my dad.
Speaker 8 (28:19):
Dad.
Speaker 10 (28:20):
All right, this is going to be fine.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is gonna be fun.
Speaker 10 (28:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (28:26):
What are you waiting for?
Speaker 5 (28:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 10 (28:29):
Should we knock? I have a key, but I don't
know if that's the right thing to do.
Speaker 7 (28:33):
I live here. Oh my god, Hey Mom, we're home.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Oh oh great, you're all here.
Speaker 7 (28:43):
Jeremy.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Yeah, well it's.
Speaker 7 (28:49):
You always said you wished you'd grown up with siblings.
That is very helpful.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
Live Someone had to break the eyes, Shelley. I not
ready to talk to you yet. So I look. I
understand that you guys need a place to stay for
god knows what reason, But Nana's house is haunted.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Uh huh wow.
Speaker 7 (29:10):
Just because we're under one roof, it does not mean
we're a family.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
This episode of Bridgewater was written by Lauren Shippen and
directed by Brendan Patrick Hughes assistant director Sarah Klein. Sound
designed by Vincent de Johnny Rima Ilkali Josh Thain, and
Trevor Young, with music by Chad Lawson. Starring Misha Collins
as Jeremy Bradshaw Melissa Ponzio as Anne Becker, Alan Tudik
(29:40):
as Thomas Bradshaw, Karen Sony as Vipen Kurana Sabra Mae
as Olivia Hoskins, Cheryl Umanya as Officer Bautista, Will Wheaton
as Captain Haddock, Tricia Helfer as the Legend Tripper, Stephen
Guarino as Doctor Edwards not Sue Dumbe as Peyton Blake,
(30:02):
Hillary Burton Morgan as Shelley Hoskins, Nicky McCauley as Celeste,
and Victoria Grace as Katie Franks, with additional voice acting
by Greta Gould, Shelby Young, Adam O'byrn Monte, Markham, Charlie Bergman,
and Tarren Westbrook. Executive producers Aaron Mankey, Misha Collins, Lauren Shippen,
(30:23):
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Trevor Young. Bridgewater was created by me Aaron Manke and
is a production of Grim and Mild and iHeart three
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
This way, it's this way.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Wait, it's coming from over here, so last, so last,
come on, hurry there.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Wait, dad, dad, Jeremy? Who's we have got to stop
meeting like this?
Speaker 5 (00:47):
Oh it's just you?
Speaker 6 (00:49):
Wow? Am I already such old news?
Speaker 5 (00:51):
That is not what I meant.
Speaker 6 (00:52):
I just sorry. I thought you were bigfoot? Maybe what?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Well, I assume we're here for the same reason, right,
the attack on the campers, right, yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
Right, right, I guess I should have expected to see you.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
Seems like you and your friends really dodged a bullet.
Holy crap.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Yeah, I mean the ground was torn to shreds, and
from what they said about the dead camper on the news,
that was Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
I'm starting to think that it was a bad idea
coming back here.
Speaker 6 (01:18):
Wait did you did I what? No? Never mind that
you're gonna think I'm nuts.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
No, Well, I think I think we're at the point
where you should know that I'm the right audience for
stuff that sounds nuts.
Speaker 6 (01:30):
I thought I heard a voice, I mean just now.
But it wasn't you. It was a woman. I think
you heard that. Yeah, yeah, you did too. What do
you think it was?
Speaker 5 (01:38):
Or?
Speaker 6 (01:39):
I guess the question is who?
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Okay, so I recognized that voice, at least I think
I did.
Speaker 7 (01:44):
Well, who is it?
Speaker 5 (01:45):
It's it's someone impossible. What do you mean the woman
that I mentioned to you before, that the one who
died in free Time? Yeah, it was her voice. What?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, I know it.
Speaker 6 (01:59):
Sounds crazy, crazy, remember right?
Speaker 5 (02:01):
No, right right?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
I don't believe in ghosts. What is happening?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Well, maybe it's some kind of mimic, something pretending to
be her somehow.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
A mimic like like.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
What, well, you're the expert. But that's a thing, right,
changelings and shape shifters.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
You know, I was just talking about shape shifters with
my friend. Whatever attack the camper feels like the thing
that we saw the other day, but some of the
details aren't lining up. So we were thinking maybe there's
something that can yeah, I don't know, transform in some way,
which would explain all of the different kinds of attacks
that have been happening lately.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
Yeah, you think it's all one creature.
Speaker 8 (02:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
I don't know. I haven't actually gotten my eyes on
anything except the Howler, and that did not feel like
a shape shifter.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
This is all so strange.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
I mean, I've been feeling like things are off here,
you know, but I haven't seen anything yet. So I
think if I hadn't met you, I would think I
was going completely batch it crazy these days.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Well, I am happy that I've kept you saying. I
have to say, it's funny. No. I was also talking
to the same friend about how you're one of the
first people that I've met in a long time that
doesn't make me feel like I'm a total head case
when I talk to them.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
Well, aren't we a pair, isn't it rich?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
We're just two middle aged weirdos wandering through the wilderness,
one of us desperately trying to find a monster, the
other one tripping over them all the time.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
And amazingly, that feels like the least of my problems.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Are you saying there's more to your interest in all
of this, more than just childhood obsession?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Ah?
Speaker 6 (03:41):
Yeah, I'd like to hear about it.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
I mean, if you're willing to talk about it, that
is maybe maybe we could grab a drink sometime.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Oh, I would actually really like that.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
You don't have to sound so surprised.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
No, I'm not. You know, I just don't have a
lot of people to talk to about this stuff, or
at least the people that I do have to talk
to about it are all tangled up in it themselves.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
So well, it sounds like we'll be needing a few
drinks then, yes, what's your poison.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Let's get trashed.
Speaker 9 (04:51):
Okay, So I mean it sounds like it supports the
shape shifter theory.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Voice mimicry is so common.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Yeah, but it's too common. I'm still not sure about
the voice growing the ability to pull two people who
were standing side by side in opposite directions.
Speaker 9 (05:04):
Maybe it was just run of the mill magic, something
that messed with our perception.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Well, whatever it was, we need to be more careful.
We can't keep getting separated like that.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
We will always find each other, I promise.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Well, I want to be prepared. I've texted Vippin and
he's going to pull everything that you can about voice mimicry.
But even with the added detail of it sounding like
it was coming from two different places.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
We're looking at a lot of possibilities, still.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
So many possibilities. You know, it's funny. I always thought
it was fascinating how no matter the location or the culture,
human beings they come up with the same kinds of
monsters over and over again. There are these, you know,
culturally religiously specific ones, of course, but the basic idea
(05:50):
of shape shifters, vampires, vengeful spirits. There are iterations of
those all over the world. And now I think we're
all those people actually just seeing the exact same thing
something It's something real that they're actually seeing, and then
they add the filter of their own cultural norms at
(06:13):
the time that they saw it to shape the narrative
of that entity.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Right.
Speaker 9 (06:19):
You really love this stuff, don't, all of the folklore
and history?
Speaker 5 (06:24):
Yeah? I mean I used to, anyway, Now it feels
like I just it feels very different. Now, it feels
like it's a survival tool.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
WHOA, what happened here?
Speaker 10 (06:36):
Well it happened again?
Speaker 5 (06:37):
What what happened again?
Speaker 11 (06:39):
The creepy humming house shaking thing and happened to you
guys the other night, this time with added spooky soundtrack.
Speaker 10 (06:45):
What there was music?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Music? What kind of music?
Speaker 7 (06:48):
Oh, the kind that makes you feel like a killer
clown is going to pop out at any moment.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Killer clown.
Speaker 10 (06:52):
Yeah, it was classical, some kind of you know, string instrument.
I think maybe a harp. Music was never really my
strong suit, but.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
It was Wait wait what then? And why did that
lead you to tear apart your living room?
Speaker 10 (07:02):
Well, it sounded like it was coming from inside the house,
like somebody dn't a speaker somewhere?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Oh, come on, you did this?
Speaker 9 (07:08):
Don't you think that you would have noticed if someone
stuck a speaker cabinet behind your couch?
Speaker 5 (07:14):
That speakers can be really small now, like it's like
everything else. But you don't You don't really think that
somebody planted something here, do you? Oh?
Speaker 10 (07:25):
No, but that doesn't mean something didn't get in here anyway.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
You know, what do you mean?
Speaker 10 (07:30):
You came through the veil to our side, so I
have a bunch of monsters, So was to say that
something else couldn't have as well? I mean, I don't know, like.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Like someone who came in and planted a tiny fairy
speaker or a magic herb.
Speaker 7 (07:41):
And I told her it was unlike me.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
Come on, well then, the livey why are you helping her?
Speaker 7 (07:46):
Because what if it was coming from something that's already here.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I don't follow.
Speaker 7 (07:51):
We were thinking about the voicemails, the ones you left Thomas.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Right, voicemails.
Speaker 10 (07:56):
What we never asked you about it. When you were
trying to speak to me, trying to get the word
out about what was happening, it was coming through as
messages on my machine.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
You weren't just hearing my voice.
Speaker 9 (08:06):
I just assumed that's how I heard Celeste, just a
disembodied voice in the.
Speaker 11 (08:11):
Limital, right, But that's because there's nothing in the liminal.
So somehow, when you were speaking through the veil, it
was captured by an old message machine.
Speaker 10 (08:21):
Yeah, thank god too, because if I'd just been hearing
your voice, people would have thought I was really off
my rocker.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
You know, I think people thought you were off your rocker.
Speaker 10 (08:28):
Anywhere I am on my rocker, son.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
So wait a minute. So you think that the music
was coming from something that you already owned, that it's
from the liminal getting here somehow, I.
Speaker 10 (08:39):
Don't think it's from the liminal. I think it's from
the other side.
Speaker 9 (08:42):
It would have to be from the other side. My
whole time there, I never heard anything close to music.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Well that doesn't mean that things haven't changed. I could
Alden somehow be doing it. And are you sure? Are
you both sure that it wasn't actually singing. It's not
like the connection between here and the liminal is exactly
like Crystal Clear.
Speaker 11 (09:01):
No, not singing. Okay, it was definitely instrumental in it.
Speaker 7 (09:04):
There's something so weird about it?
Speaker 5 (09:06):
What what? What could be weirder than it? Coming from nowhere?
Speaker 11 (09:09):
It was I don't know right, nothing sounded human, nana like,
even if it was human instruments, it was like they
were being played by something that wasn't It was.
Speaker 9 (09:19):
I'm badly played off key.
Speaker 7 (09:22):
No, that's not it. I can't explain it.
Speaker 10 (09:24):
It's more like, Uh, it came with a feeling, you know.
I think that's what you're trying to get it right,
Like a feeling.
Speaker 7 (09:30):
Yeah, it came with this feeling.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Oh that can't be good.
Speaker 11 (09:34):
Well, hence trying to find some sort of reasonable explanation, you.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
Know, reasonable being an extremely relative term over here.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Okay, did have you found anything?
Speaker 10 (09:43):
Nothing? How'd you fare in the swamp? Was it that
thing that we saw kill the camper?
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Yes? Maybe it's a little unclear, but it is clear
that something something is is definitely trying to communicate with us.
Has So we heard Celestes voice.
Speaker 7 (10:02):
What what isn't she dead?
Speaker 10 (10:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (10:06):
And not in the limit A right?
Speaker 11 (10:08):
Okay, so we have no idea what we're dealing with here.
Speaker 10 (10:12):
Well what was she saying?
Speaker 8 (10:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
She was saying a bunch of stuff, trusting her uh
and it happening.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
That would be better this time?
Speaker 8 (10:20):
Right?
Speaker 10 (10:20):
What better?
Speaker 7 (10:22):
Okay, Well, that's good.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
She also said we want you and come here.
Speaker 10 (10:29):
Which is what Ethan said.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
That's right, Yeah, exactly the same thing.
Speaker 10 (10:33):
Yeah, maybe it was someone who got possessed in the
same way that Ethan did.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
It wasn't a person.
Speaker 9 (10:38):
No, that voice was coming from two different directions.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
And it was definitely Celeste or her voice at least
that I know.
Speaker 11 (10:46):
Okay, we don't really know what's on the other side yet.
Maybe it was some kind.
Speaker 7 (10:50):
Of afterlife and Celeste's spirit is trying.
Speaker 10 (10:54):
To talk to you.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
I think that that would be the best option. Honestly,
I don't know.
Speaker 9 (10:58):
Should we hold a say aunts or find a medium
medium couldn't hurt.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
I have never done a SANDS before, but I guess
I know the basics.
Speaker 10 (11:07):
I mean, I think we can probably find a medium
in Bridgewater.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Well, yeah, we have to be careful because even if
talking to the dead is possible, it doesn't mean that
there aren't a whole shitload of scammers out there.
Speaker 11 (11:20):
A medium, a medium. We need to find the right medium.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Yes, exactly, we need someone reputable. I mean, can't believe
I'm saying that, But maybe I can try to talk
to some of the other folklore folks and see a thing, no, not.
Speaker 11 (11:32):
A psychic, the right communication medium. Okay, think about it.
Thomas was able to communicate through the answering machine, Celest's
voice was coming through the swamp.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
There's no seeming connection between those things. Okay, so what
if there is a connection and we're just not seeing it.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Well, I think that describes a lot of what we're
doing right now, right.
Speaker 11 (11:55):
Sure, yeah, but maybe there's a way to get more
data to connect the dots. So, Alden, before you got here, Thomas,
did he ever try to reach out? Did he try
to contact someone over here?
Speaker 9 (12:06):
He was a scared seven year old trapped in another dimension.
He definitely tried to call out for help.
Speaker 7 (12:10):
Okay, so maybe someone heard him, and if we figure
out how they heard him, then we say.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Okay, okay, but how would we do that? They mean,
this was eighty years ago. You know his parents are
long dead, right, he had.
Speaker 7 (12:25):
A younger brother. Alden has a brother and he's still alive.
What really I found him?
Speaker 11 (12:33):
When I was looking into Alden's story, I didn't think
it was relevant. Honestly, it's not like we can tell
him anything that would give him closure after all these years.
And he was only five when Alden went missing, so
he might not even remember it happening.
Speaker 10 (12:45):
But that doesn't mean he wasn't communicated with later exactly.
Speaker 11 (12:49):
You didn't start hearing Thomas's voicemails until this year.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
Who knows when he left them?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Well, I was always calling out to you, Anne, always right.
Speaker 7 (12:59):
So maybe Alden's brother heard something he can't explain either.
You think you would talk to us, well, I mean
I think it's worth to try. And he's right here
in Bridgewater.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Hey, mister Jansen, I think thanks for agreeing to talk
to us.
Speaker 8 (13:20):
Oh please call me Lee. Not every day I get visitors.
Speaker 9 (13:24):
It's really nice to meet you, Lee. I'm Thomas and
this is Jeremy. Has your family mostly moved away?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Well?
Speaker 8 (13:31):
I never had children myself and my sister rest her soul.
Her kids live up in New Hampshire and their kids
are all grown now. So oh, they come and visit
when they can. But there's not a lot in the
way of entertainment in this place. So when they said
there were two men here to interview me for a book,
(13:52):
well that was just about me my day.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Well, we're happy to hear that, although.
Speaker 8 (14:00):
Fish to be quite confused as why you want to
talk to me.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
Well, i am a professor here at the local college,
and I'm writing a book about the region, and specifically
I'm looking at unsolved mysteries and the like. And I
know that you have lived here your entire life. I have,
and I also know that you have a personal.
Speaker 8 (14:26):
This is about all of them, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
Yes, yeah, I take it.
Speaker 9 (14:31):
You've been asked about him before a few times through
the year.
Speaker 8 (14:36):
Every now and again, someone will get their heads stuck
into all the missing person cases in Bridgewater, and my
brother is one of that. It's kept folks interest, I
think because he was so young and there was never
any evidence at all as to what happened.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 8 (14:55):
Oh I don't remember. If that's what you're here for well,
he was two years old older than me, and I
barely remember him at all.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
That must have been hard for all of you.
Speaker 8 (15:04):
My family, we we didn't really talk about it. It
was a it was a different time back then. But
I also know that, well, losing your child isn't something
you ever get over.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
And your parents, they did they ever have any guesses
or talk to you about what might have happened?
Speaker 8 (15:26):
Well, they assumed he was kidnapped, like everyone else. What
did you think? My sister, she was there right before
it happened, and she always thought it was some kind
of monster in the woods.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
I guess that would make sense when she was a
child herself.
Speaker 8 (15:45):
Right, It's not a belief she grew out of.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
And And what what did you believe?
Speaker 8 (15:54):
I always thought there was something strange about this place,
And based on the type of folk who have come
to talk to me through the years, I know I'm
not the only one. And I suspect you're not here
to ask me about whatever official investigation took place back then.
No we're not, so go on tell me whatever wild
(16:19):
theory you have.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
We actually were wondering more if you had any theories
or if there's anything through the years that you haven't
been able to explain about it.
Speaker 8 (16:31):
You may have I seen my brother's ghost tracked down
the monster that they did.
Speaker 9 (16:37):
We are not trying to make a mockery of your
family's Tragedyly, we care about Alden his story.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
But I take it a lot of the people who
have come to you through the years have just been
looking for something sensational, right.
Speaker 8 (16:52):
That's a way of putting it.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
We don't want anything but the truth. And if that
truth is that you have no memory of your brother
and nothing of his life or disappearance to share at
this point, then that's totally okay.
Speaker 8 (17:06):
What truth are you expecting to fly?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
What do you mean?
Speaker 8 (17:12):
Folks usually have an idea in their heads. You say
you want my theory, but I'm betting you have one
of your own.
Speaker 9 (17:21):
We we've heard of missing people being able to contact
their loved ones.
Speaker 8 (17:27):
I've never seen his ghost, As much as some people
might want to believe that.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Yeah, I guess we're not really talking about a ghost
so much as I don't know. Did you ever hear
of a voice of a voice that might have that
might have.
Speaker 8 (17:43):
Sounded like all, then a ghostly voice is still a ghost.
Speaker 9 (17:46):
Not ghostly, No, it would have been It would have
come from somewhere like an answering machine or a phone
or some specific place.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Or maybe any any kind of object that can produce
a sound, right, I mean, as far as we know,
be a record player or a radio, a radio, yeah, right,
it could be a radio.
Speaker 8 (18:06):
Who are you people?
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Have you heard something?
Speaker 8 (18:09):
Me? Olden? He had a little radio on his nightstand.
When I went to college, I took it with me
and I've had it ever since.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
And you you heard something from this radio, something other
than a broadcast.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
It used to act funny.
Speaker 8 (18:33):
Yeah, I'd have it tuned to one of the usual stations,
strong signal and all that, but it gets statically and well,
strange sometimes strange. How you said other people have heard
voices before of people who disappeared.
Speaker 9 (18:53):
Yes, well, we can't tell you more without violating people's privacy.
Speaker 8 (18:57):
But yes, I always thought I was imagining it.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
But you heard something.
Speaker 8 (19:05):
I don't know what it was. It sounded like a
little boy, but I always I always thought it was
interference from another broadcast. It was an old radio, and
there were so many more stations than there used to be.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
When was this?
Speaker 8 (19:23):
Let me see it? Was that was at the Green
Bank House. So the seventies, well, the eighties, maybe we.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
Do you still have that radio?
Speaker 12 (19:59):
Hello?
Speaker 10 (20:00):
Hey, Hippin, come in, Hey Vippin.
Speaker 12 (20:02):
Hey is Jeremy here?
Speaker 10 (20:03):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (20:04):
You just missed him?
Speaker 10 (20:05):
Yeah. He and Thomas went back to talk to Aldon's brother.
Oh Lee, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 12 (20:10):
Olivia and I talked about it a little bit. I
thought we agreed it wouldn't be good to tell him anything.
Speaker 11 (20:15):
No, we do, we do agree, But I realized maybe
he could tell us something that maybe maybe Aldn tried
to communicate with him the same way Thomas did with Anne.
Speaker 12 (20:25):
Oh smart, Uh, how are you guys doing after the
whole earthquake thing? I texted him, You're not the only
one apparently, I've missed quite the afternoon.
Speaker 7 (20:36):
Yeah, how was your coffee with Peyton?
Speaker 12 (20:40):
Illuminating? I'll tell you all about it. But you're okay?
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Really?
Speaker 11 (20:44):
Yeah, I mean we're okay, But I mean it can't
be good that this is the second time it's happened.
Speaker 10 (20:50):
Right, Yeah about that. I don't think anyone should be
staying here until we figure out what's going on. It
could be dangerous.
Speaker 7 (20:58):
That's a good point. Yeah, we'll figure something out.
Speaker 10 (21:01):
You could stay with me.
Speaker 12 (21:03):
I mean I only have a couch, but I could
sleep on that and you could take my bed. I
really don't mind.
Speaker 11 (21:08):
I don't actually live here, remember, Oh right, God stupid,
forget I said.
Speaker 7 (21:15):
Anything, no, no, thank you for that's a really sweet offer.
Speaker 12 (21:19):
And the offer extends to you too. I know Jeremy
doesn't have a guest room either, but between the.
Speaker 10 (21:26):
Two of us, well, I think it might be time
for us to go home with Live. But thank you?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Really?
Speaker 5 (21:36):
Are you sure?
Speaker 10 (21:37):
I don't know how much longer we can hire Thomas
from your mom live. I'm sure we could couch surf,
but you know it's time.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
So about that?
Speaker 11 (21:48):
What Thomas hasn't talked to you about what? I look,
Mom needed to know live, so I brought Thomas to
see her and christ Well it was it was, I mean,
it became fine.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
You know.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
I explained everything and she and Thomas talked.
Speaker 11 (22:06):
So I don't know, I think she shouldmight be willing
to have you this stay over.
Speaker 10 (22:10):
Would this be why maybe she's not returning any of
my calls.
Speaker 7 (22:14):
Well, she's pissed Nana, and I think she has every
right to be.
Speaker 10 (22:17):
Oh, Olivia, I am not okay with you going behind
my back like this.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
Oh, and I'm not okay with you hiding my grandfather's
identity for forty years. So yeah, I guess we're even.
Speaker 10 (22:27):
Yeah, I guess. So what should I expect then? Will
she even let me into the house?
Speaker 7 (22:34):
Fifty to fifty chance? I mean, maybe a little higher,
since it's it's just her.
Speaker 10 (22:38):
Right now, Ethan and your dad are still at his
parents right.
Speaker 7 (22:41):
Yeah, for the next week at least.
Speaker 10 (22:43):
It gives us plenty of time to talk it out.
Speaker 7 (22:45):
Well that's optimistic.
Speaker 10 (22:48):
All right, I'm gonna go call your mom, make sure
it's okay, and then pack a bag and just give
me your phone what she'll pick up for you.
Speaker 7 (22:57):
Okay, So you're just leaning into her being kissed off
at either.
Speaker 10 (23:00):
Well, it can't get any worse, can it.
Speaker 7 (23:03):
I mean, only one way to find out.
Speaker 12 (23:08):
So how do you actually feel about that?
Speaker 10 (23:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 11 (23:13):
I mean I do think my mom has settled down
a little. But putting her and Nana and Thomas and
I mean, let's be honest, probably Jeremy all in a room,
it's going to be.
Speaker 12 (23:22):
Oh yeah, I don't envy that conversation.
Speaker 7 (23:27):
Does that offer to stay applied to escaping to yours
just for an emergency drink.
Speaker 12 (23:32):
Yeah, definitely. I'm sorry about that. I didn't it was
that was so presumptuous of.
Speaker 10 (23:39):
Me, Nippin.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
You weren't propositioning me. You were making a nice offer
to a friend, you know, unless.
Speaker 12 (23:47):
No, no, no, I swear I was just friendly not
to say that. I mean, you know, I think we.
Speaker 7 (23:55):
Would you like to go out on a date sometime?
What what do you like?
Speaker 12 (24:00):
Yes, yes, definitely I would, Yes, that that.
Speaker 7 (24:04):
Would be great, good good.
Speaker 11 (24:07):
I mean not now obviously we're even like this week,
because but after we stop the end of the world
or whatever, then then.
Speaker 12 (24:14):
Maybe we'll go out to celebrate.
Speaker 10 (24:17):
Okay, perfect, all right, your mom's expecting us later.
Speaker 7 (24:22):
How'd that go?
Speaker 10 (24:23):
Well, she didn't yell at me, so so really bad.
M hm, Yeah, this is gonna be very unpleasant. All right, Vivan,
how is our favorite mystical leader?
Speaker 12 (24:35):
She was surprisingly forthcoming. Really yeah, she explained everything she knows.
The Gathering is tasked with protecting our world from the
other by keeping the gate closed through human sacrifice. Well,
she said, volunteering.
Speaker 10 (24:49):
I'm sure she did.
Speaker 12 (24:51):
It'll be her in Virginia when the time comes, their
leader goes into the liminal willingly, letting the person in
there already move on.
Speaker 7 (24:59):
She signed up for that.
Speaker 12 (25:00):
Apparently she's a legacy, and I bet she's not the
only one. The gathering is just the group here on
the East Coast. There are what sounds like hundreds of
other groups around the world doing the same thing.
Speaker 7 (25:12):
So a network of supernatural gatekeepers and literally, yeah.
Speaker 12 (25:17):
Literally, and sometimes that leads to stuff like the children
of Tichiba, people going rogue and trying to harness the
power of the Fay realm for themselves.
Speaker 7 (25:26):
What is that even possible?
Speaker 12 (25:27):
Peyton wasn't sure. She said there's a lot of magic
over there that we still don't understand, and maybe someone
could learn it, But she was pretty insistent on the
fact that the Fey are not something to be controlled.
Speaker 10 (25:40):
Did it seem like she was interested in learning that
magic herself.
Speaker 7 (25:43):
I don't.
Speaker 12 (25:44):
I don't think so. I think we can trust her.
She clearly has a lot of respect for the other side.
She doesn't think that she's more powerful than it, or
that she could try and harness it the way that
the children wanted to.
Speaker 8 (25:57):
Well.
Speaker 10 (25:57):
Respect isn't all that far from Reverend I mean when
she got rid of the sasquatch, she sent it back
instead of killing it, and always bugged me.
Speaker 12 (26:07):
She has killed monsters before, or well her dad did,
I guess, but she didn't seem bothered by that idea.
Speaker 10 (26:14):
I just want us to be careful.
Speaker 8 (26:16):
Okay.
Speaker 10 (26:16):
It all feels a little convenient that she showed up here.
Speaker 11 (26:19):
Why isn't she filling in for Celeste? I mean that
has to happen from gathering group to gathering group, right.
Speaker 12 (26:25):
She said they don't actually talk all that much, but
that she knew something was wrong up here.
Speaker 10 (26:30):
Yeah, And my question is how It's not like Bridgewater
went from having no paranormal sidings to having a bunch
of them. I mean, how would she even know that
things have gone wrong?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Now?
Speaker 12 (26:41):
Celeste always said she was attuned, right, Maybe they're taught
to connect to the veil somehow feel it when it
tears or gets thin.
Speaker 10 (26:49):
Well, that's what I'm worried about. That sounds like magic
to me. And if Peyton has learned that Anne learned
how to banish monsters back to the other side, then
what else had she learned? What could she be hiding
from us?
Speaker 7 (27:02):
I see that finding out about literal monsters that want
to kill us has not made you less suspicious of humans, Nana.
Speaker 10 (27:09):
I'm just saying I think.
Speaker 7 (27:11):
We should be careful.
Speaker 11 (27:12):
Yes, yes, yeah, Oh that's Jeremy.
Speaker 7 (27:17):
They're done at the retirement home and headed to my house.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
Oof.
Speaker 7 (27:21):
Okay, looks like it's time to face the music.
Speaker 10 (27:30):
Hey, thanks for waiting for us.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I didn't think it was a great idea to just
knock on the door.
Speaker 10 (27:35):
Are you okay? You sure you want to do this?
Speaker 9 (27:37):
I think it's a good idea for us to stay
somewhere else, and.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
She's really willing. I do want more time with her.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Should I even be here for this? I don't want
to overwhelm Shelley.
Speaker 11 (27:49):
I mean she's already been told all the really life
shattering stuff, right, and it's not like she's never met you.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Yeah, but not as her brother.
Speaker 10 (27:57):
Okay, Hey, did you guys have any luquidly?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (28:01):
We actually were able to borrow an old radio that
he thinks he may have heard Alden through back in
the seventies.
Speaker 7 (28:06):
Really, that's awesome news.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
Yeah, so we can try to communicate with the missing
boy from the nineteen forties through a radio after we
have this weird family reunion with my new half sister
and my dad.
Speaker 8 (28:19):
Dad.
Speaker 10 (28:20):
All right, this is going to be fine.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is gonna be fun.
Speaker 10 (28:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (28:26):
What are you waiting for?
Speaker 5 (28:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 10 (28:29):
Should we knock? I have a key, but I don't
know if that's the right thing to do.
Speaker 7 (28:33):
I live here. Oh my god, Hey Mom, we're home.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Oh oh great, you're all here.
Speaker 7 (28:43):
Jeremy.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Yeah, well it's.
Speaker 7 (28:49):
You always said you wished you'd grown up with siblings.
That is very helpful.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
Live Someone had to break the eyes, Shelley. I not
ready to talk to you yet. So I look. I
understand that you guys need a place to stay for
god knows what reason, But Nana's house is haunted.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Uh huh wow.
Speaker 7 (29:10):
Just because we're under one roof, it does not mean
we're a family.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
This episode of Bridgewater was written by Lauren Shippen and
directed by Brendan Patrick Hughes assistant director Sarah Klein. Sound
designed by Vincent de Johnny Rima Ilkali Josh Thain, and
Trevor Young, with music by Chad Lawson. Starring Misha Collins
as Jeremy Bradshaw Melissa Ponzio as Anne Becker, Alan Tudik
(29:40):
as Thomas Bradshaw, Karen Sony as Vipen Kurana Sabra Mae
as Olivia Hoskins, Cheryl Umanya as Officer Bautista, Will Wheaton
as Captain Haddock, Tricia Helfer as the Legend Tripper, Stephen
Guarino as Doctor Edwards not Sue Dumbe as Peyton Blake,
(30:02):
Hillary Burton Morgan as Shelley Hoskins, Nicky McCauley as Celeste,
and Victoria Grace as Katie Franks, with additional voice acting
by Greta Gould, Shelby Young, Adam O'byrn Monte, Markham, Charlie Bergman,
and Tarren Westbrook. Executive producers Aaron Mankey, Misha Collins, Lauren Shippen,
(30:23):
Matt Frederick and Alexander Williams. Supervising producers Josh Thin and
Trevor Young. Bridgewater was created by me Aaron Manke and
is a production of Grim and Mild and iHeart three
D Audio. Learn more about the show over at Grimandmild
dot com, slash Bridgewater, and find more podcasts from iHeartRadio
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