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October 21, 2025 17 mins

One of our listeners asked us for help with an Awkward Tuesday Phone Call but ended up BLINDSIDING us and his girlfriend at the same time. You gotta hear it in the podcast!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I'm going to tell you two shocking things.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (00:04):
First, one of our listeners actually got into a serious
relationship with a woman he met on Tinder.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
I know. Crazy.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
The second shocking thing is what he said today during
his phone call with her. He didn't give us a
heads up on In fact, he didn't tell us on purpose,
and it blindsided the entire room. You're about to hear
it and be just as shocked as we were.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
On his side somehow.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Yeah, in an awkward Tuesday phone call for the ages
coming up next.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
It's awkward, it's Tuesday. It's awkward Tuesday phone call.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
When you're in a relationship, you can just tell when
something is off. Yeah, that's true without even saying words.
You just feel it in your gut. Like Brooke, give
me a personal example. It could be something from your
husband or from your library of past partners that you've
been with. What was an unspoken sign that something wasn't right?

Speaker 2 (01:08):
How can I tell you about something that's unspoken.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
I'm sure just was cheating on you before they did it,
before you found out.

Speaker 5 (01:15):
I found out, like after I broke up with people
that maybe they cheated, but never during I don't know
that I'm very aware in a relationship now that you
bring it up.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
But what about Jeffrey. I don't know if I am
in I don't have my finger.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
On the pose.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
What about when Michael was wearing your perfume for two
straight weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
That was kind of a weird thing that was off.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
You know, somebody in the relationship has to smell good.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
And if it's him that I'm okay with, I feel.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
Like her husband could have a whole separate family and
Brook wouldn't know.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Ye, but I'd be happy the thing is good.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
You just know that feeling when it's not right, and
it's a feeling. Our listener, Andrew is familiar with all
too well, not the perfume part, just the things not
feeling right, and so he's a possibly but he wants
to do something about it.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
So we reached out.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Hey, Andrew, welcome to the show man.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
How's it going good? How are you doing? Is the question? Andrew?

Speaker 6 (02:09):
I am very anxious.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Anxious?

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Okay, okay, according to your email, there's something off in
your relationship.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Tell us about what's going on.

Speaker 6 (02:19):
Sure, I've been dating this girl, Charlotte for a few months.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
Okay, okay, And is this something where you're really excited
about this new relationship I am.

Speaker 6 (02:30):
I mean at first it was really really awesome. I
were seeing each other all the time, like weekends, nights.
She didn't call me in the middle of the day.
I'm like everything, Like when it's all exciting and new.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
She like, what so cares about me?

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Okay, it sounds like that's not something that you're used
to have you not had a lot of relationships before.

Speaker 6 (02:49):
I had a relationships, but nothing really like this. I
mean like I quickly started falling far.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
That's cute.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
You can tell when you started to like someone when
anything happens during the day and you want to tell
them things, big things. That sounds like what she was.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Doing to you.

Speaker 6 (03:03):
Yeah. No, I mean she's fun, she's spontaneous. I mean
she is not like any other woman I've met on
tenderl oh big.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
I mean, okay, in the world, just Tinder, I'm met
part of her like on bumble in on Okay, but Tinder,
she's first.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
What's changed, Like.

Speaker 6 (03:26):
Starting like three weeks ago, she's just started to hang
out with me less than we were doing.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Okay, energy is there?

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Like do you know of a reason, like more work
or I honestly don't know.

Speaker 6 (03:39):
I mean, like she says she wants to see me,
and I mean like we'll go out of town for
a quick weekend, but then all of a sudden, like
the next week, I'll hear like nothing from her, like
no communication, week of a lot and then a week
of nothing.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Okay, well no talking at all. Weird.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
In her defense, you do sound like a pretty big personality,
and she might need a break from me for a week,
causing a whole weekend together.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
I don't know if he's going to pick up on
your sarcasm that way.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Well, I wasn't being sarcastic. I mean that's big.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Oh his personality okay, overwhelming.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
It's yeah, yes, speakers just trying to talk.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
Yeah, Jeff, keep going, he's personality.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Sorry, Andrew, did you want to say anything to that?

Speaker 6 (04:18):
No, you're right, I do have a big personality.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Look, I could tell you there you go now.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
I mean it could be like I feel like, once
you're really comfortable in a relationship, you don't necessarily have
to speak all the time. Like maybe she's more of
an introvert than you realized.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Oh you know, is that possible?

Speaker 6 (04:35):
I mean she keeps saying that she wants to see
me and that she's just busy more and more, and
I mean I don't know if that's actually true or
if she's making up.

Speaker 5 (04:44):
Okay, so you're getting the feeling that Jeff was talking
about in the beginning that suthing's up.

Speaker 6 (04:48):
Yeah. No, it just feels like that she's like pulling
away clothing off to me more and more. And I
mean I don't want to be struggle along if something
else is going.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
On that isn't me Okay, Oh wait, did you say
isn't you like as in you think she could be cheating?

Speaker 6 (05:03):
It's possible. I mean, who knows what everybody on all
these apps?

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Now you guys exclusive?

Speaker 6 (05:07):
Yeah, that's what I want to say, is that your
girlfriend we've talked about being exclusive, but really like her actions,
like all this pulling away. It's definitely speaking different because
I mean, she can't play a couple of baits I
mean last week.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, because you sound like you're one hundred percent committed
to her and she's not giving that back to you.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
So what more?

Speaker 6 (05:25):
Right? Change?

Speaker 3 (05:26):
There's a change, and maybe something caused that, So like,
what is it that made you email the show for help?

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Like, what do you want to get out of this
awkward Tuesday phone call?

Speaker 6 (05:35):
I mean, I really just I want to know one
hundred percent of is she in or out? Because really,
like as I said, I have fallen for her. My
heart cannot take this.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
What about your other body parts? Can they take it?

Speaker 6 (05:50):
My right leg? Maybe my left is having issue? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (05:56):
And that was that was solid. And she deserves to
love a hunt of you. Yeah, and you deserve to
know the truth. So let's come back.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
We'll give you a little bit of advice before we
let you make your awkward Tuesday phone call to your
maybe girlfriend Charlotte.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
No, still girlfriend right now, Jeff, there's no maybe.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
What title would you give her?

Speaker 6 (06:15):
I mean right now, I was thinking girlfriend? But I
want to know.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Okay, girlfriend, we're a lady and find out what.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Yeah, we'll see where her head's at when we do
your awkward Tuesday phone call right after this.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
It's awkward. It's Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
It's awkward Tuesday phone call. It's not really an ultimatum,
but it kind of is. When you ask the person
you've been dating for a while, are you one hundred
percent in on me? Or am I wasting my time here?

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yiks Broke, have you asked your husband that yet?

Speaker 2 (06:53):
We went over that before the wedding.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
Oh yeah, because that's exactly what made Andrew reach out
to us since the woman he's been seeing for months,
Charlotte is telling him all the right things. She's saying
she likes him, she wants to see him, but her
actions are not matching those words.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, they're all over the place.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Andrew's heart just can't take it anymore. So he needs
to know are you actually in on me?

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Or do I need to move on? And how do
you even approach that type of conversation?

Speaker 3 (07:22):
We need a strategy here, Brooks, So okay, please help
give Andrew a strategy.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Okay, Well, the way you worded it was kind of
cringe just sore.

Speaker 6 (07:29):
You go.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah, Andrew, why did you word it that way?

Speaker 6 (07:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (07:32):
It comes off a little thirsty, a little desperate.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Okay, thirsty boy, Andrew.

Speaker 5 (07:37):
I have an idea, you say, Gosh, I am just
loving our relationship. I think everything's going so well, and
I am about to book tickets home for the holidays.
I'd love to book you one too, you know what
I mean. It's like kind of holding her feet to
the fire. Because suddenly there's a reason why she either

(07:58):
needs to come clean and tell you, ah too much,
I can't do that.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Or she's like that sounds amazing, and you know she's
one hundred percent in.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Okay, you're you're trying to smoke her out so that
she has no choice but to come out and tell
the real reason she doesn't want to see you.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Thanks for picking up on my fire analogy. Smoke, got it, Jess.

Speaker 6 (08:18):
That's good. That's good. No, I like the one.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Okay, Andrew like that, Jose what's your advice for him?

Speaker 6 (08:22):
Dude?

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Just ask her to move in with you.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
WHOA, I'm not like not saying you're really gonna ask her.
You're not going to mean it, I mean, but you
ask the question that way. If she's hiding anything, she
will spill the tea.

Speaker 5 (08:36):
So if she says yes to moving in, and then
what and you know everything is great, but then you're
kind of committed.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
I think, yeah, Okay, she's a hundred percent in on her,
So maybe it's good for you.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Andrew.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
She said yes to.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Moveing in, are you willing?

Speaker 6 (08:51):
That might be too much, but I do the holiday Okay,
all right?

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Maybe I think the same now Jose is taken back
quicker than brook does. Right to marriage, not taking through things.
But yeah, I think I think.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
The goal of both was the same. No, put a
little bit of pressure on her in order to force
her to open.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Up and tell you the truth. If something's on her mind,
she should tell you.

Speaker 6 (09:18):
Gotcha. Okay, I'm a little nervous about this. This this
is a big moment for me.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
That's understandable, and you care about it. You made brook
yawn with that.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Comment, so I was trying to do it quietly.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
I have had a copy early mornings. Jeff, we're invested
in this because I'm not interested in it was all
cringe to.

Speaker 6 (09:36):
You, Brooks. So here we go.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
I'm gonna dial Charlotte. We'll see if she picks up.

Speaker 6 (09:48):
Hello, Hey, hey, Andrew. Yeah, I mean this this is
my voice, and I don't really know what's going on.

Speaker 7 (10:08):
He's sound nervous. I don't know, kind of kind of weird.

Speaker 6 (10:13):
Yeah, a little nervous. I mean like I've been thinking
about us, You've been thinking about us?

Speaker 7 (10:20):
I mean, yeah, of course, I've just been so busy.
I'm so sorry I've been you know, am I.

Speaker 6 (10:27):
Right? Yeah? No, what are you up to right now?
What are you busy with? What? Why are you you
want to hang out? I can do that.

Speaker 7 (10:36):
I'm busy right now. Actually I'm at work. But I
mean we could probably try to hang.

Speaker 6 (10:41):
Out in like a couple of days or something. Yeah. No,
you've been saying a lot lately.

Speaker 7 (10:49):
Oh, I know, work's been so crazy, you know how
this time of year, you know, like the holidays are
about to come on, it's just kind of nuts. And
I mean, I'm just trying to fit every thing in,
you know, But I promise i'll let you know when
i've got some time.

Speaker 6 (11:03):
I promise. Funny that you should mention holidays. Actually I
got I'm booking tickets to go visit my family and whatnot,
and i'd love to book you a ticket to come
with me. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 7 (11:20):
Let's see, I'm still trying to figure out all of
the stuff with my family and all the dates and stuff.
My parents are terrible about like telling me dates and things,
So let me kind of get with them first, and
then I'll let you know kind of what my life.

Speaker 6 (11:37):
Is looking like. Yeah, I kind of got to need
to know pretty quickly because stuff's on sale and it's
easy to get Well, I can't.

Speaker 7 (11:48):
I don't. I don't know anything yet, so I definitely
can't tell you anything concrete.

Speaker 6 (11:54):
Sure, Am I a priority to you? Well?

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 7 (12:01):
This is the first time we've even talked about holidays. Like,
You've got to give me a second to figure it out.
I haven't even talked to my family.

Speaker 6 (12:08):
This isn't really about holidays. But like all the time,
I'm trying to get more time with you and just
keep getting knows of these days.

Speaker 7 (12:16):
Well, I'm sorry. I know I've been all over the place,
but it's just not a good time.

Speaker 6 (12:23):
It's logistics and schedules.

Speaker 7 (12:25):
I don't know what else to tell you.

Speaker 6 (12:26):
I will try, all right. I mean I want to
know is this really like? Are you actually too busy?
Or is this because you're married? What? Married?

Speaker 7 (12:35):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 6 (12:36):
I know all about it. I know you're married. What
is going on here? Are we? What do you mean?
Do I know you're married? I talked to your husband.
He found me.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
What is going on?

Speaker 6 (12:51):
Andrew?

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Why wouldn't you tell us that?

Speaker 6 (12:54):
Who is there? Crap? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (12:58):
To answer Charlotte, Hi, you're on the radio. Yeah, we're
a show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

Speaker 7 (13:06):
Andrew, why am I on the radio.

Speaker 6 (13:09):
Because because I'm being me the bad guy, and I
wanted everybody to know that it is not me, it
is you.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Who thought you were the bad guy.

Speaker 6 (13:23):
Yeah, her husband feund me. He called me up and
started ripping me apart, and I'm like, I did not
do this. She's married, and I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
You didn't know she was married. You didn't know you
were a side piece, Andrew, she was tinder.

Speaker 6 (13:40):
I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Charlotte. Did you know you were married?

Speaker 6 (13:45):
You know what? You don't know me.

Speaker 7 (13:48):
You don't know my marriage, and you don't know this
situation I was. This is not okay, Andrew.

Speaker 6 (13:56):
Like that.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Don't turn it like that. It's obviously not an open relationship.
But the husband is chasing down your side piece and
yelling at him. You're lying to two different people now
and messing with both of their hearts. That's messed up.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Plus I feel like Andrew just ruined his chances to
have Charlotte come back home and meet his family.

Speaker 6 (14:15):
Did not that You know what I'm done.

Speaker 7 (14:18):
I'm done. I'm not the joke of your like day today.
So you know what I'm done.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
With your marriage?

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Did I think that that taken care of?

Speaker 6 (14:28):
There?

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Does she hang up? She was serious? I don't know
why why she hang up?

Speaker 5 (14:33):
Oh my god, Andrew, you need to prep us for
those things. We can't go and blind to something like that.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
I know you knew this the whole time.

Speaker 6 (14:41):
I was sorry that something was going to go that.
You like, you're working, I'll do it, and we wouldn't
find anything out, and I just I needed to confront
her and I needed everyone to know about it.

Speaker 5 (14:49):
Well, and you got confirmation that she's married. I mean,
it could have been some crazy X or something making.

Speaker 6 (14:57):
I mean it sounds like she's kind of having issues
with the marriage and of things, So I mean, might
not her to keep in touch?

Speaker 3 (15:02):
No, no, no, Andrew, Yeah, just kind of sweet, pick
up all the broken pieces.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
And fix her.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
Talking very highly for the entire If she's cheating on him,
she'll cheat on you. Don't think that this is like
gonna be a good thing going forward.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Especially if she's cheated.

Speaker 7 (15:18):
On him with you.

Speaker 6 (15:19):
Yeah, maybe that means because maybe that means because she
cheated with me, that she won't cheat on me.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
No, No, I don't think nobody ever says that I
appreciate that is.

Speaker 5 (15:29):
Come on, okay, No, I mean wow, I mean if
you continue it, you know what you're getting yourself into
and it's not good.

Speaker 6 (15:37):
Yeah. I just got that feeling that I don't think
she's gonna talk to me anymore now.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah, I don't know what's giving you that impression, the injury.
I would hold on to hope just a little bit longer.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yeah, and who knows, maybe you'll match back up on
Tinder again.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Got to make sure to be ready to swipe right again.

Speaker 6 (15:52):
Okay, Andrew, I'm still on there, so I mean, I'm
going to do my best.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
I thought you were going to keep it. In relationships,
you're eating other women. Oh man, are you married Jeffrey
in the morning. Why does this happen to us that
we get used the deceit?

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yes, listen, you can lie to your spouses, lie to
your children, lie to your parents.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Don't lie to us. That's just slow.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
That's not the message we're sending.

Speaker 5 (16:23):
Okay, That's probably why it happens to us, because we
say things like that.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
Believes every email that he reads and goes, oh, this
is a crazy scenario.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Let's get him on the phone. We all believed him.
We all believed him in part one. I think you
and Brduce are body to do a little more background check.
You're right, I'm fired.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
It might be good for him, man, he got the revenge.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah he did. I guess you're to lie to us.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Kind of impressed, honestly. Yeah, he seemed like the nice guy.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Still not willing to fully eject from that relationship either.
They're holding on a little bit of hope that she's
going to come running to him.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
That's the unhealthy part.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how I feel
about the end of that phone call. But if you
like chaos in your life, yeah, it's a great ad.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
But if you don't want to have chaos in your
life anymore, you can always email us tell us the
truth though, yeah or yeah, please, and we'll try to
help you with whatever issues you're dealing with. You can
find us online at Brook and Jeffrey
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