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March 30, 2025 18 mins

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The guy on the phone today had a really close relationship with his roommate, but one fateful day four years ago changed everything. Today he’s on our show trying to figure out what went wrong in a Closure Call!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Who knows you better than anyone else. You may think
your mom, or your sibling, or your spouse, but now
the truth is, nobody sees you like a roommate sees you.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Oh boy, you're right, you're my old roommate.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Probably knows more about.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Me than my family.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Yeah, they know all your annoying little habits, your lazy tendencies,
and what your soapy silhouette looks like through that shower curtain. Wait,
what they've seen. That's why one of our listeners is
so distraught because he and his roommate became real close
friends till everything suddenly changed on a random day four

(00:39):
years ago, and he has never got the answers for
what really happened on that day. That's why he's enlisted
our help for a brand new closure call. We're gonna
get some answers coming up right after this. Who knows
you better than anyone else. You may think your mom,
or your sibling, or your spouse, But now the truth is,

(01:02):
nobody sees you like a roommate sees you.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Oh boy, you're right, you're my old roommate.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Probably knows more about me than my family. Yeah, they
know all your annoying little habits, your lazy tendencies, and
what your soapy silhouette looks like through that shower curtain. Wait,
what they've seen. That's why one of our listeners is
so distraught because he and his roommate became real close
friends till everything suddenly changed on a random day four

(01:31):
years ago, and he has never got the answers for
what really happened on that day. That's why he's enlisted
our help for a brand new closure call. We're gonna
get some answers coming up right after this. We've been
doing closure calls for a while now, and most of
the time when people need closure, it's from an ex

(01:51):
boyfriend or a family member, which I know, in Brooks
case is sometimes the same thing. They're a little confusing.
But today don't. Today is interesting because I'd say not
a lot of people feel like they need closure from
a past roommate.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
Oh I could see that.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yes, I mean I try to avoid most of mine.
But apparently that's what our listener, Adam is looking for today,
closure with one of his past roommates. So, Adam, welcome
to the show.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Hey, oh, thank you.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Is this person just a roommate, because usually roommates are
also your best friends and people that you love, you
know and care about.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
You know, he was just a roommate and then we
became really close buddies, got you. No, I moved into
a house where I literally found it on craigslist, didn't
know anyone, and then we became best friends.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
Well, I mean, that's the easiest way to be friends
with somebody and you know everything about them immediately, you know.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Oh yeah, yeah, I mean that's how it was with him.
We became great friends really quickly. Wow.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
But some friends you can't live with. There's different.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
And because this is a closure call, how long has
it been since you were roommates with this guy?

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Like, he's not in the next room right now, is he?

Speaker 3 (03:07):
No? I wish he's not here. He has been gone
for four years now.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Oh wow?

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah wait did he move out of your guys's place?

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah. So the way it all went down was things
were cool, and all of a sudden, he just wasn't there.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
What do you mean, like in the middle of the
night he moved his stuff out or.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
What I would get home from work. I worked really
early shifts and I would get home around two three pm,
and he was there, always there, every single day, showed
up at home. The door's wide open. What there's no
note or anything. You know. It kind of freaked me out.
Cat was still there.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Wait his cat?

Speaker 5 (03:51):
Your cat?

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Whose cat?

Speaker 3 (03:53):
It was? His cat? I mean, I love the cat.
You know I was a cool roommate. I fed the
cat played at Was your.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Roommate kidnapped and you never filed a report?

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah, because he's like I just heard help help hell
from down the street.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
That's what I thought. I was freaking out, and I
didn't call authorities or anything, and I waited a day
or two. So I started asking around to different friends
and families, and they were told from him that he
just didn't want to be my roommate anymore.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
What I thought you said that you guys were like
good buddies.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
We were great buddies. We had movie night.

Speaker 5 (04:31):
Oh man, I can't war movie night anymore.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
This is a tragedy.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
I can't get over him leaving the cat. Did he
take his stuff when he left?

Speaker 3 (04:42):
He took some stuff he took, like some of his clothes,
But he left PlayStation. He left like essentials.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
I most upset about the PlayStation more than the cat.
Got to give uptation.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
I feel like it sounds like he left for a
weekend trip, and it was like, actually, this is nice there.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
I'm gonna say, I'm.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Going to live here now.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yeah, I mean I know that I wasn't perfect. There
were things that kicked them off. I would eat his
food sometimes, Guy.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Well did he label it? Followed guy, there is no labels? Well,
there you go.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
You got there's only two of you living there. You
don't have to label it. If it's not yours, then if.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
You didn't want me to eat it, don't put it in.
It's a shared space. What you're going to label each
ode of the couch?

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Now, remind me never to be a roommate with Jeffrey.
So wait, do you think he was mad at you?
Because that's what you're kind of implying.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
I mean me eating some of his food every now
and then. Or the other big one was that I
hardly ever did dishes.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
You didn't do your own dishes, and you eat his food.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
Move.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah, it's not that dramatic.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
You know. I cleaned the cat's letter and and I
held up my end of some of the bargain, and
I could do more dishes if that was the issue.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
But he never talked to you about it.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Yeah, I couldn't have just been about silly little things
like that. And I know it's kind of weird because
he was just my roommate and I know it was
four years ago, but still it is haunting me that
this person would just up and go. And I really
would love some closure. I would love to know what
I did.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Okay? Yeah, yeah, So if our audience doesn't know or
remember how the segment works, Adam does. Obviously. Our producers
have been working with him to track down his roommate, Roy,
and we went to Roy's Instagram. Actually, our producer has
been sending him a lot of messages and Roy finally responded.

(06:55):
We asked him if we could send him four questions
from Adam.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
Okay, and these are questions Adam came up with with
our producer, Yes.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
With help.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
When you ask him that, do you say this doesn't
count as one of the questions because.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
He did agree to answer four brand new questions and
we got his responses ready right now, this this could
get a little bit intense for you, Adam, Are you
ready for it?

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Did you already read them? Do you already know what
he should?

Speaker 1 (07:22):
I haven't read them.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Now, do you know they're intense?

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Well, I'm just guessing, all right, I don't know. We're
all going to read them together and find out what
happened to your old roommate Roy, hopefully give you a
little bit of finality on it when we do, what Brook.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Can I just ask where's the cat?

Speaker 4 (07:41):
Now?

Speaker 2 (07:41):
I was wondering that to you.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
If that's not in the questions that was asked, then
we don't have any.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Has the cat.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
The cat is sitting by my feet right now?

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Okay, all right, you need to get animal.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
We're on speaker phone. So if it's anything that would
really hurt the cat's feelings, Jay, well.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Maybe you up that cat when we come back and
do the rest of your closure call right after this.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
If you're just joining us. We're in the middle of
a closure call with Adam, who, just to recap, had
a roommate named Roy, and four years ago Adam came
home to find Roy was gone, Yes, along with most
of his belongings, left behind his cat and a video
game system.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
They were friends, Like, it's so crazy, I am so
invested in this.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yeah, that's right, Jose.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
No no orientication as to where Roy went. So Adam's
been wondering for years, where did my buddy go? And
who's going to do my dishes now? Because Adam, you
admitted there were certain things you did as a roommate
that were not so good. Certain things were really good.
But what was the overall dynamic between you and Roy?

Speaker 3 (08:59):
If I were to paint a picture, we were jokesters together.
There was a lot of laughter going on.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
That's a good sign.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
Well, it's so weird because the friends and the family
all said that he left because he.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Didn't want to be roommates. Yeah, so it was obviously
planned a little bit exactly.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
And before we get to these questions, that's the reason
that Adam reached out to us in the first place,
because hearing stuff like that must hurt. Yeah, everybody said
the same thing.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
I don't I don't even want to accept that. That
is what he said.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Oh no, no, you're hut.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
All right, Well, let's get right to it, because we
have the four questions that you sent to Roy. He
has answered all four of them. Let's get some question.
Number one. You said, hey man, it's been almost four years.
I still don't know why you moved out without telling
me or leaving a note. I felt like we were
great friends and I'd like some closure. Okay, Wow, that

(09:58):
not much of a question. That's more of a statement
than But you know, I'm not going to critique you.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
That was the end.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Okay, Yeah, there was no question. It's like, can you explain? Yeah,
it's more like yeah. So Roy responded, he wrote, really
you have no idea? Adam? What?

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Adam?

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Okay? For starters? You stole my cat?

Speaker 2 (10:18):
I what are you talking about?

Speaker 4 (10:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (10:21):
You said that Roy left the cat. Is that not true?

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah? He left the cat? Here? What did?

Speaker 1 (10:26):
He says? I was the one who brought the cat
into the house and called him Paul. You changed his
name to Fluffy Bottoms and even got his tag change
to reflect that.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
That's kind of weird.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
First of all, much better name is a great name,
and the cat liked it.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
No, No, I think Paul is actually pretty funny. We're
gonna I just can't believe you changed. You're starting to
switch the team Roy right now.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
I can't believe that he would be holding a grudge
for four years over the cat had been an extra
little Well.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Well, there's there's more to his first answer. He also said,
you would keep him in your room at night than
lock your door and pretend to be asleep when I
wanted to see Paul. So that's one example of your
incredibly toxic behavior right there.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Toxic you.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
The cat wanted to sleep with me. Okay, you want
the cat, and everyone locked their door when they go
to bed at night.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
Listen, Yeah, we're not trying to attack you, but it
sounds like you need to take a moment to take
a deep breath and accept some.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
The only person who could honestly answer that is his cat.
And so we don't have time to do a whole
questionnaire for the cats. We have to stick with the
questions to Roy here. Let's go to number two says
I know I wasn't the perfect roommate.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
Okay, that's good. That's admitting some guilt there, responsibility.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
If it was something I did when I lived with you,
Could you please give me a specific example that I
could grow from more sure? But remember when we write these,
we don't have the answers back one at a time.
We send them all in one mass email.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
Adam, are you ready to hear this? Because it didn't
feel like you were ready to hear the cat. Now
this situation.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
I will accept it. The cat threw me off. That
threw me off.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
I feel optimistic about where this is going. So his
response was, okay, you want more about Netflix Sundays. When
we would plan on watching a movie together every Sunday,
and then once we were a half hour in, you'd
pause the film and tell me the ending what you
thought it was hilarious. And did that ten times until

(12:38):
I stopped watching movies with you. Maybe once made no funny. Well,
sometimes sometimes it's better to spoil the ending so you
don't suffer through a bad movie.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
I did it before the movie started.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
You let the man get a half an hour into
a film and then ruined it.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Okay, all right, I will say, and I'll say calmly,
that is fair. It's not worth losing a friendship over. Okay.
I may have told him the ending of Breaking Bad,
but it was very funny.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
I still doing of that.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
Actually, how many seasons into Breaking Bad were you before
you ruin the end?

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (13:18):
I mean, brook is really offended over the spoiling of movies.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
I mean, dude, I'll tell you there was one time
when my husband ripped out the last two pages of
a book.

Speaker 5 (13:27):
I was invested incle.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
It's like that maybe if you need a new roommate,
Brooks husband.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Could be it.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
But did Roy ever tell Did Roy ever tell you
that he didn't like that?

Speaker 3 (13:42):
No, he did, Brook.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
This is not a closure call for you and watching
and book reading. This is for Adam with his old roommate.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
And it's not going well. No, that's the next question, Jeff.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
He's a question question number three that we said, Roy
even know if I need to hear anymore, well, Brooke
needs to hear it. We sent. I know it's been
a long time, but it would really mean a lot
to me if you came to my birthday party next.
I would love to see you.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
That's really sweet.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
I'd like him there. It's my birthday.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
It's a big one. So Roy responded back, saying, are
you trolling me with this? Don't you remember the great
birthday disaster? You threw me that surprise birthday party but
forgot to invite me or did you do it on purpose?

Speaker 3 (14:36):
What?

Speaker 1 (14:37):
I came home and the party was done, all my
friends had left, then you showed me the picks on Instagram?
What happened there, Adam?

Speaker 3 (14:45):
That's okay. I did a lot of work for it,
and I went and I got the cake, and I
did all the secret invitest up the whole party, and
it was an honest mistake. Just forgot the one thing.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
Oh wait, text him in the middle of the party,
tell him to get over to the house.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
We were having.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
I'm sure you left him a slice of cake for
when he got home, Right, Roy, What were we talking about? Oh? Yeah,
Roy's birthday.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
Yeah, I totally did not do it on purpose. I
know that it sounds like I did, okay.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
And the stuff that all of his friends didn't stay.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
It just it was a.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Really good party that he's through obviously, sounds.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Like Roy's not coming to adams birthday.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Hold on, we have time for one more question here.
This could salvage the entire friendship and maybe even have
him moving back in with.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
You, because I hope you're learning something from this.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Adam wrote, No matter what I did, do you think
you could ever forgive me?

Speaker 5 (15:54):
Oh? God, statement doesn't forgive you, but in there so well,
the subtext is there's a question there of do you
forgive me?

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Will you come back to me? And the cat?

Speaker 1 (16:10):
The cat you kind of stole and renamed and locked
in your bedroom. Yeah, so he responded, no Dot, And
I know all this would happen again if we hung out.
You're way too immature, and life's a big joke to you,
Like every time you'd ask me to stop at the

(16:30):
drive through on the way home and pick up food,
then you'd call ahead and tell the workers I was
a missing person.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Fund That was funny though it was creative.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Even Brooks laughing at that point. Twenty is gonna be
actually good.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Here's the thing, Adam, You've got to balance.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
All this stuff with also some siful relationship thing.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
I like it was balanced, though I feel like.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
You just made his life living hell, I'm willing.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
To accept that he doesn't want to come back. I'll
have to break it to the cat, and I don't
know how the cat's going to take this.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
You know, at the end of the day, the goal
was to get some closure for you, Adam, about what
happened to your roommate. Do you feel like you got it?

Speaker 3 (17:25):
You know what I did get closure. Life is a
giant joke, and I thought Roy was the jokester with me,
but apparently he's taken it all serious.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
To find the middle ground there anyway, go ahead out him.
Feel free to hop on Craigslist and get yourself a
new roommate.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Hopefully none of them listen to this.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
And happy belated birthday to Roy.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
By the way, I don't wish him happy birthday. He's
not going to be there my birthday.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Mammas,
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