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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I'm nervous for our listeners coming up, because what you're
all about to hear is one of the most dramatic
and emotional phone calls that we've ever been a part
of on this show.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
The background music is not helping my anxiety about it.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
I mean, by the end of it, Brooke was completely
in tears. But to be fair, Brook cries at the
end of every segment that we do on this show,
whether it's sad or happy or anything in between. She
just weeps constantly.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
It's all my emotions come out that way.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I start again, She's gonna cry. But what I can
confirm is everybody in the room was in total disbelief
at the information that we learned, and our listener was
absolutely not prepared for the truth that eventually came out.
You're gonna hear what happened when we do a closure call.
(00:53):
Coming up next, it's Brook and Jeffrey in the morning,
and this is quickly becoming one of the more popular
segments that we do. Yeah to our surprise closure call.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
People like feelings. Sometimes it really like it's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
They're helpful. I can say that for sure, And in
past editions we've talked with a lot of people who've
basically ghosted on a loved one or on a close friend.
But normally it's long term ghosting, right like, what happened
to you ten years ago? What happened fifteen years ago?
Why'd you tell me we were going to go out
for pizza? But then I woke up the next morning
in an orphanage, those sort of situations.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I don't remember that one.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
It's long term stuff like that. But today is different
because we're only a month in on this ghosting. Oh
and I say only a month just because I'm comparing
it to the other ones that we've done before. But
a month is actually a pretty long time to get
ghosted for somebody that you're in a committed relationship with.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
And that's kind of the situation with one of our listeners, Jen, So, Jen,
thanks for being with us.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Hey, Hi, how are you?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Probably better than you?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah? No, I'm doing okay, trying to get to the
bottom of what's happening and so that I can be
even better.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
So don't worry. Brooks says that to everybody, like probably
better than you, Jen, help us understand what's going on.
In your life. Tell us about yourself and your situation.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, well, you know, I just wanted to start off
by saying, I'm really thankful to be talking to you guys,
because I was actually thinking about hiring a private investigator
to help me out with this. But it's just so extensive,
so extensive.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah, we are, Yeah, we really should charge for this.
All right, So wow, that sounds kind of serious. What's
going on?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Well, it's my Fiance's name is Bryson. He might be
my ex fiance. I'm not actually quite sure if.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
What Wait, do you guys live together?
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Tell us about you and Bryson.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Yeah, no, we don't live together, but we met about
two years ago. We were at a sporting event, and
when I thought he'd probably spend the whole time watching
the game, he wanted to talk to me the whole time,
which is awesome and felt good and wow, I think
for the most part, like I, it's probably the most
normal dating experience I've ever had.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Oh that's a red flag. As soon as you're like, oh,
everything's wonderful, that's when you know it's all terrible.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I don't say that it's not.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
He shouldn't be, though, what's wrong with you?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Wait?
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Did you know, like how soon into the relationship did
you know that you wanted to marry him?
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Honestly, he was pretty awesome from the beginning, but I
was kind of a little commitment phobic, So it wasn't
until really about a year and that I was I
was thinking about it, okay, and about four months ago
he actually proposed.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
What was that Like?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
It was like very simple, and it was really beautiful,
which is like in a park, and it felt like
there was a lot of love behind it, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Okay, I don't understand. You haven't talked to him in
a month? Is that what you're saying, Like he's gone.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah, well, okay, after he proposed, we've just been having
this kind of like hit or mys type of situation.
Like so he'll usually get like a work trip and
he'll go away for a week and then he'll kind
of call me, but the time we talk it gets
less and less, and then he'll return home and then
everything's great.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
I mean, that doesn't sound like I wouldn't be super
worried about that just because maybe I mean now it
would be because I know that he's like totally gone.
But like in the moment, I would just think, oh,
we're actually doing this, We're on the same page. He
just feels so comfortable in the commitment that he doesn't
need to check in all the time.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Yeah, and he's working.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
I mean at first, of course you're constantly talking and
what do you do?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
But eventually you're like, oh, I know what they're doing exactly.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
They're at work, they're busy.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
And it can be hard if someone's like halfway across
the world to get your schedules match stuff and communicating Yeah,
across time zones and hus to be really hard.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
And it's been such a relaxing relationship. But I wouldn't
think there would be anything wrong anyway.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Okay, so what made you reach out to us like
for help? Now?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Well, so he had a business trip that took him overseas,
which isn't totally abnormal, but he said he was going
to be gone for a week okay five days specifically tripped,
and then he called at the five d mark and
said that they had to extend the stay for work
related reasons. But progressively, like as this trip was going on,
I just he wasn't calling me back as often he's
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never responding my text. Then, after the ten day mark,
which he should have been back from his extended stay,
he mentioned that he's got to stay that yet again
for a more extended time.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
WHOA, yeah, so wait, how long ago was that?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Since then, he's been gone now a month on what
was supposed to be a five day trip of what
was supposed to be a five day and his text
are very vague and super weird. And I even asked
them the last time I actually got to talk to him,
you know, should I be worried? And he said no,
and everything was fine and yeah. Then the reason, big
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reason why I'm calling you, guys, is because he finally
sent me a text message and saying very vaguely that
he's not going to be home for a while.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
What.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yeah, And now I'm even questioning whether he ever even anywhere.
I mean, I'm questioning everything at this point.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
You guys have to have mutual friends, you know, after
being together for so long and engage, Like, has anybody
else heard anything like his buddies?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Like, it's funny you asked that, because I actually realized
just the other day. I'm like, you know, I don't
really know a lot of his close friends. Oh, he's
always at work, and he says, he's all these work
friends and there's no one that we connect with together
in a way that I feel like I could call
them amazing.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Well, just because you have a lot of close friends
doesn't mean that you're a sketchy person. I just want
to make that clear.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Okay, But that is a worrisome thing, Like why wouldn't
you know other people that are close to him in
his life?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
You know, I actually haven't introduced him pretty deeply into
my good friends yet either, which speaking about it now
is kind of strange. But we've been so close together
and we haven't really I don't know, I haven't really
boured out that.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Well you know us, Jen, we don't like to pry
into people's business very much.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Except that's what it is, the opposite of that, okay, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Well yeah, yeah, thank you. We're going to try and
be your private investigators right now. Jen, We're gonna be
gum shoes. And like always, you and producer Boyd worked
together to come up with four questions to send de
Bryce And was that difficult for you? I mean, I'm
I'm imagining that must have been really hard to come
up with four things to ask him, Uh, yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Mostly because I don't know that I really want to
know the answer.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's a good plant and it's
hard not to like swear in the middle of your questions,
like what the f is wrong with you?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
I feel more hurt and betrayed, you know, than than
angry at this point.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I bet your head's just swimming in worst case scenarios.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Mine would be well, and it's definitely worst case scenarios.
I haven't really thought of any good case scenarios at
this point.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah, it could be good.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
He could have ran for a political office. He's like
the president of another country right now.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, that's that seems legit.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, I like the optimist. But numerous times we've tried
to see if he'd participate in this segment and he
said no, thanks. Oh so in four Utunately, that's the end.
No closure today, kid, I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. We
did leave him dozens of texts, though, saying Jen needs answers,
please tell her what is going on? You're not even
(08:12):
calling her anymore, and he did finally respond to us,
Oh no.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Is it? Wait?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Oh my god, Jen, what are you thinking?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Do you I'm just really worried that he would respond
to you guys, but not me. That worries me a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
So you and producer Boyd worked on those four questions
together to send him. We sent those off and we
got our answers. We're going to hear what your fiance
Bryson had to say about why he's been missing for
a month. Oh, when you do your closure call next.
If you're just joining us, we're right in the middle
of doing a closure call, and we were joking a
little earlier about how private investigators cost a lot of
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money and that's why people turn to us because it's free. Yeah,
but is it really? Cause I just want to thank
Jen first for being open with us. She has to
share a lot of personal details about what's going on
in her life, and he has no idea how this
is going to play out.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
So okay, you're saying there's no dollar amount on it,
but there may be an emotional stake.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah, okay, it can take a toll having to put
all this out on the radio. So true. Jen, thank
you so much.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Thank you guys for helping me.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Yeah, I'm actually pretty worried about you going into this.
I mean are you thinking right now that the wedding
is off? Like, where are you at in your head?
Speaker 3 (09:22):
I'd be lying if if I said I wasn't worried.
But our relationship up to this point has been really
honest and caring, so I believe that there's an answer.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Yeah, I mean honest and caring, but also ghosting at
the same time, So I'm trying to balance that. If
you don't know what we're talking about. Jen's fiance Bryson,
has been kind of mia over the last month ever
since he went on a business trip overseas, so we
reached out to him, and Jen is going to hear
the answers for the first time here at the same
moment as all of our listeners do. So I still
(09:55):
like to stay positive.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
I still think there's something positive could be here, like
like he's searching the world for the perfect flower for
your wedding.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Or you just can't figure out what time zone's in.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah's the case of jet lag. Ever, Yeah, just remind
everyone how this works. Jen and our producer work together
to send four questions and we tell the person they
can answer them however they want, as long as they
answer all of them honestly. Oh man, because that's the
only way we're going to help our listeners get any
closure here. And remember, the reason why these people tend
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to answer is just so that producer Boyd will finally
leave them alone.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
He's very persistent.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
He's very persistent, very obnoxious with him trying to get answers.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Yes, it works way worse than the telemarket.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
And look it worked with your fiance Bryce and Jen.
He did respond, So we have your first question here.
We're going to get into it. Okay, Okay, you feel
a little nervous.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Little is an understatement. I'm very very nervous.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Okay, we got you, and at least you're finding out
anything bad before the wedding and hopefully you guys can
work through it.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, you know so.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Question one, Jen is extremely worried about you and your safety.
Are you okay? Are you in any danger?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (11:07):
We thought it might be good to get that out
of the way.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Good. Yeah, question because if he says yes, then we're like, okay,
no more questions.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Did they respond with like magazine cutouts of letters all,
you know, glued together like a ransom note?
Speaker 1 (11:20):
You didn't do that, but I'll tell you he answered
physically I'm doing fine. I'm one hundred percent safe. Okay, Emotionally,
I feel extremely overwhelmed and stressed in my personal life.
Oh no, that was all that he said for that question.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
That's not what he's related to me. But I can
understand that.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
You can't understand why he'd be emotionally in a bad
spot right now.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Well, I know work was really busy for him before
he left, and then obviously planning for a wedding and
getting ready for that. I mean, I got super excited,
so I started playing stuff pretty quickly.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Did you get any sense that he had cold feet?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Not cold feet? No, but I mean I guess see,
you just hadn't been as response to some of my questions,
not anything where you. I mean, this is to just
completely like ghosts like this, like this is gotta be different.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Well, so for question two, we asked him, where are
you Have you really been traveling abroad for work over
the last year or is all that just a lie?
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Oof? That's a hard question.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
So he responded, Yes, I was traveling. I have been
one hundred percent truthful about that. I need to go
out of the country all the time for business. But
full disclosure, I am not traveling right now?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
What?
Speaker 1 (12:29):
In fact, I've been back at my apartment for a
week and I've been completely stressed. I even heard Jen
knock once and call my name, but I just pretended
I wasn't there. I know that was cowardly of me,
but I just wasn't ready to face her.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Are you okay.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Jen, I'm just really confused.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah, take a deep breath.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Confused.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
I mean, he's definitely taking a coward way out for sure,
if that's what he's trying to do.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I guess what I don't understand is he's the one
that pursued me, So I don't understand why all of
a sudden he would not be answering my knocks or
my call.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Right because I mean, as a like, you should be
his number one. If he's having this emotional overwhelming time,
you should be the person he's going to.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Or at least do me the courtesy of telling me
to go away or something.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
You should at least put a note on the door.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Break.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Please don't know. If I'm not long, is this break
gonna be? I guess the question. Let's continue. We'll go
to our third question that we sent him, which was
what doesn't Jen know are you afraid to tell her
something question? Or are you really just very busy overseas?
And again, remember we would have written that one differently
if we could have read his answer before this, but
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we sent all the questions at one time, so I
have his response here, Jen and.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
She need to sit down.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yeah, I don't know. I read through this real quick,
so I just want to prepare yourself for this.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Okay, oh boy, Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
So he wrote back. He said, I felt guilty about
this for a long time, and I don't expect you
to understand, but for the last year I've been seeing
another woman overseas who I fell in love with. He says,
I'll spare you the details, but on my last business
trip we got married. What I know, that's probably very shocking,
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and I feel terrible about hurting your feelings. But we're
all adults here, and you knew that it wasn't going
great between us.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Whoa wait, wait, wait, do you think he's messing with you?
Because that that cannot be.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
There's no way, really, Rocky, I know you were telling
us in the first part of this call that ever
since you guys got engaged, it's been kind of hit
or miss. Maybe that's what he's referring to.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Oh, I honestly don't even know what to say.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
What a jerk. So he goes and gets married while
he's overseas.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
And now he's back in his apartment by him self
or his new brother. Like, yeah, he's like terrible to
both women in his life.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Obviously if she knows about you, like the other wife,
probably each other.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
We're running out of time here, so we're going to
get to the fourth question that we sent. The last
one it said, it said, is there anything else that
Jen needs to know? I hope it's a long answer, So,
I mean, we kind of just gave him an open
forum to tell us whatever he needed to say.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
And are you ready? Jen?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
I just can't even imagine what else he would need
to say at this point, so I don't know if
I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Well here's what he said. He wrote back, Obviously it's
over between us, and I would like to stop by
sometime next week to collect my things. Oh no, you
are burning, cant said. Please tell her to include the
engagement rings. It's an expensive diamond and I perch just
(16:00):
it with my money, which he wrote in caps. Oh
my what?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Then?
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Hold on? Then he follows that up with I wish
Jen nothing but the best, and I'm truly sorry it
ended this way, but I do think we'll both be
happier in the end. Respectfully, I ask you not to
try to text, call, or come over as my new
wife lives with me.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Now, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Honestly, it's so overwhelming. I can't even it's so overwhelming.
And that's not giving him the stuff.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Well that's not very nice, Jen, Sorry she needed that.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I mean, I'm so sorry that you had to hear
all that.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
You just have to remember in all of this, you're
not the bride living in that terrible apartment with that
terrible Person's.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Like you escaped. If anything, you got out unscathed, you
just give back that or no, throw away the ring,
whatever you do with the ring. But yeah, she got out. Yeah,
the other woman is stuck with him.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I'm just really thankful for you guys, because honestly, I
don't even know, Like I would have never heard from
them and I would still be wondering. So I'm really
thankful for your health, even if it's not what I
wanted to hear.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Oh, you deserve all the happiness in the whole world.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Yeah, you do.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Thank you, Oh, thank you.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Oh it just makes me cry.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah. I mean you never you never really know what
you're gonna get whenever we do these closure calls. So
some of them turn out good and some of them
turn out not so good. Well, but hopefully it brings
a little bit of closure to you at the end
of the day.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Jen, Yeah, I'm just thankful it's not like a ten
year closure and that it's that it is just a month.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
I guess. Do you have someone in your life to
you can go see right now and hug and.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Cry with you.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
I can go and go to my sisters.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Okay, Oh that's good if you.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Need a laugh, Jen, I'm always here too.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Came off weird, you came off needier than she.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Sometimes we all need text into seven eight, five nine
to tell us what you thought about the closure call today,
Oh my god, and tell us if you need a
new engagement ring on the super cheap because I hear
there's one failable, no, not even super cheap.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Give her her money. I need to get that dough
talking ten k or more. Right now, I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
It's Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Brook and Jeffrey in the morning,