June 1, 2025 • 17 mins
We're adding a little extra content to help you get over the Sunday Scaries! Over a decade ago something one of our listeners posted on the internet changed a couple’s life forever… Now, she wants our help with a Closure Call.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
We all know in this room that whatever you write
on the Internet lives forever. Like back in twenty eleven
when Brooke posted on her Facebook, there isn't a more
accomplished and respected journalist on Earth than the Today Shows
Matt Lower.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I don't even want to ask if she still feels
the same way, because I think we all know she does.
She did. But ever, the only reason I bring it
up now is because one of our listeners chose to
put something online over a decade ago, and what she
(00:42):
said definitely changed one couple's life forever. It's really shocking
what she sent, and now she's desperate hoping to get
some closure. We're going to try and help her do
that when we do a closure call right after this.
It's Brook and Jeffrey in the morning. And do you
ever think back on an old friendship you had or
(01:03):
a stranger that you met once and thought, huh is
it me? Or did I permanently ruin their life?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
What?
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Well, another jagerbomb? Please?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I don't know that I've ever thought that, Jeff really, because.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I would think for the people in this room the
answer is almost definitely yes.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Maybe we're just not self aware enough.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Told is that the problem who ever met us is
probably worse off for it. But one of our listeners, Courtney,
is hoping that's not the case for her after something
happened years ago and now she wants our help to
get a little closure on it. Courtney, welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Hi guys, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Just gut feeling right now. Are you a bad person?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
It keeps me up at night?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Okay, that's very self aware of you.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
I appreciate that people, Jeff, people that just make bad choices.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Maybe Courtney, you're a bad choice person.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Well maybe not, we don't know yet. Jerry still out.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Okay, Okay, well you're losing sleep.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
So bombs after we hear your story. But go ahead
and tell us why you emailed the show for help.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
All right, So let me take you back to years ago.
I was talking to this guy online. And this was
before online dating was like how people met people.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
You know, it was still kind of a weird thing
to do, a little bit like.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
The Wild West of online dating.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Only the desperate people did it at that time. Right
now everybody does.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Wild girl, Courtney.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
So I'm at this guy and we started this online relationship. Okay, nice,
so he lived kind of far away from each other.
It was like a three hour drive, but we were
messaging each other every night for literally weeks.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Okay, and I mean three hours sucks, but it's doable.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
So we were trying to find a time to meet
up in person, and you know, it's all nerve brack.
So one night I decided to google his name and
I got a very shocking search result. I found his
wedding registry.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Oh oh, yeah, you're.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Sure it was him, Like it wasn't a guy with
saw pictures. So which item did you get for him?
Did you get him?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
I always love towels. I think nice towels are good.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Maybe the gravy boat. I always went with the gravy boat.
I got broken decanter for her wedding. Yeah, she always
talks about it.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I didn't give him a gravy boat or a decanter.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Or did you call him out on it?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
You know, at that point, I wasn't even sure what
to do. I was like, I have two choices. One
I can ignore it and pursue the relationship.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Oh that's a choice. I don't think that should be
on the table.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Cartney, that's always a choice. Remember she started this by
saying she thinks she might be a bad person, so
I would check out that.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I was, you know, pursue the relationship and confront the
guy with what I found. So that was option number one.
Or option number two was to reach out to his
fiance and tell her what happened.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Oh oh wait, the wedding hadn't even happened yet, it
was just the registered Yes.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I didn't understand that both.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Of these options are major decisions. Yeah, either way, what
did you go?
Speaker 4 (04:24):
So?
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I ended up opting for emailing his fiance and I
sent her the screenshot. The read receive everything from our conversation.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Honestly, you'd have to because nobody would believe you. I
wouldn't believe you if I got a random email from
a stranger.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Oh, I've known of people that try to say, listen,
your boyfriend's cheating, and the girlfriends like, you're just jealous.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Of our relation. Totally, I'm being serious.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yeah, I mean, Alexis, what would you do in this situation?
Would you email the fiance?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Hate conversations, I hate emails. I might just pretend it
never happened.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Wow, I mean, so you emailed the fiance.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
What did.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Did she reply back? What did she say? She did?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
She did? And you know when you see an email
in your inbox or a text or something in your
heart just dropped.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yeah, every time Brooke texts me, what did she write?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
So it was actually really brief and literally all it
said was thank you for telling me.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Yeah, that's what else?
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Would you expect her to say, like, hey, girly, thanks, yeah,
like you want to get drinks today?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I would I expect that she would like have some
questions or something like why are you doing this? She
didn't want anything from you.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
No, nothing, and I don't know, like it was really shocking,
and so I just ended up just stop talking to
the guy and moved on.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I mean, it sounds like you gave her everything she needed.
She had the receipts of text messages, she had very
detailed information about his affair.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I have a question, did you ever tell him? Did
you say, by the way I message your fiance, you're
a jerk on? Did you tell him off?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Like No, I was just like, you know what, he's
not worth my time if he's doing this and he's
supposed to be married by the end of the year,
Like it's just not worth it.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
So, yeah, who do you not have closure with?
Speaker 4 (06:28):
I'm confused because this sounds like pretty close to yeah yeah,
tight with a bow on top.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Well, here's the thing, I never found out what happened.
I've just been wondering, like, did they call off the wedding,
did they still go through it with it? Did my
email change literally anything? I just don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Curious.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I mean, there's a chance that you could have completely
ruined this couple's relationships.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
No, no, he ruined the couple relationship. She didn't.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
It would never have been ruined if she hadn't sent
that email.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
It's never been voted. If he didn't cheat people explain
the girl.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I'm just I don't know what got him eventually, I mean, so,
what did you work with our producer on for this
closure call?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Right?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
So?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
I found the girl on Instagram, but it's such a
private and I can't see any of her photos. But
I did, you know. I did the screenshot and then
zoom into the profile photo because I wanted to see
what it was. It's literally her holding a baby, And
so I sent her a DM with no response. And
that's why I want your guys to help to reach
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out to the girl and just find out what happened,
because it's driving me crazy.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
It's oh my god.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Oh okay, yeah, wait, how many years ago was this again?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
It was like over a decade ago.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Whoa the baby could be anybody's Yeah, yeah, that's true too.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Oh god, this is tricky. We're gonna punt her.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
That's what we do best. So, Courtney, you worked with
our producer and sent over four questions to this girl
to find out what's happened since you sent that email
over a decade ago. She wrote back, Oh, she did,
and we're going to give you the answers that you've
been waiting over ten years to hear.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Oh my god, Oh my god. Okay, okay, I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
All right, we're gonna find out once and for all.
Are you a bad person when we do your closure
call right after this. We're in the middle of a
closure call about to get some much needed answers for
our listener, Courtney, because over a decade ago, she met
a great guy online who turned out to me not
so great because he was engaged after she stumbled across
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his wedding registry on a Google search. But instead of
confronting him about it. She decided to email his fiance
and tell her what happened, and she only got the
response back, thanks for telling me.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Yeah, well, I mean that was it day she didn't
I mean, the fiance didn't owe her anything, right, And
I think I think Courtney did the right thing, you know,
like this woman wasn't married yet, like she had chance
to stop it.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
True, no question about that, But she never found out
if that meant they ended up breaking up or if
they went through with the wedding right.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Because she just ghosted the guy too.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
And the not knowing has bugged Courtney all these years.
So now finally here we are looking to get her
some answers once and for all. Courtney, how are you feeling?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Honestly, I'm really nervous and excited, and it's I don't
really know how to feel because it's been ten years
of wondering and now I'm going to get an answer.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
I'm worried that she just responded with a restraining order.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yeah, all knows, but I'm here for it. Well, we're
about to find out once and for all. Now again, Courtney,
you worked with our producer on sending four questions to
this girl to figure out what happened. Let's get into
your first question. Okay, the first one we sent was
when I contacted you eleven years ago. I was scared
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and nervous. I can only imagine how you must have
felt when you received it. They told me this was anonymous,
and I've always been curious. What did you end up doing?
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Did you marry him? Did you break up with him?
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Right?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
And so this girl wrote back, Wow, yeah, I can
definitely say your message changed my life. WHOA I confronted
him with the information. Yeah, never mentioned your name or
how I knew?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Well, was it kind of obvious?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Well maybe he was doing it with a whole bunch
of different women and he wouldn't be able to pinpoint
which one it was. But she says, I just said
I knew and I needed a break.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Oh yeah, some much nicer words than I would have used.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
So we called off the wedding.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Oh they did?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Oh my god?
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Yeah, but didn't you expect that, Courtney?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Listen, I don't know, the mind does some crazy like
you can rationalize anything. So it's really good to hear
that she actually listened to me, and she called off
the wedding. I makes He's super I mean not happy.
It's sad for her, but like, I'm glad this guy
didn't get away with it.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I like that sentiment. But hold on, because there's more.
She says, Oh god. But a few months later we
reconnected and ended up going to couple's therapy. A year
later we both felt healed and decided to get married.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Whoa, that's oh my gosh, I'm speechless.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Like how you called off your wedding with this person.
You let everyone know he's a cheater, and then you
go to couples therapy a couple of times and you
get what woah, I.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Did to get everyone back together.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
You put the work in man and it could happen.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Cortney, are you one of those people who believes once
a cheater, always a cheater.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I mean, it's not even about the cheating, it's about
the lying and all this other stuff. If he's capable
of doing that and having a full blown every single
day talking with me for a month, and the capacity
of that is terrifying, Courtney.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
At least you made him pay for two different weddings.
So that's one to the second question. And remember we're
giving her all four questions at once. But I still
think the second one kind of works because we wrote
I'm really hoping you found love since then and are
happy now. Do you feel like that's the case? And
so this girl wrote back she said, well, even though
we felt healed and we're better communicators, I still felt
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insecure and had trust issues. It would really heart so
just to be one hundred percent sure. After a year
of marriage, I hired a private investigator to follow my
husband direct.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Maybe you shouldn't have got married.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
That's a healthy relationship. If I talk to the couple,
every marriage goes through the private investigator. She keeps going,
She says, to my surprise, there was no infidelity parentheses,
at least not on his part. What is going on here?
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But if she starts sleeping with a PI, she says, I,
on the other hand, fell in love with the investor.
I'm ashamed to.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Admit this woman is stupid.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
She says, I'm ashamed to admit started an affair with him.
I never thought. I never meant for that to happen.
It just did drama. This lady falls in love with
everyone that just says hello to this.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Could be better for her.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Thought, look what you did to this woman's life.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Honestly, I'm angry right now.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Wait, you're angry.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
You're not happy that she finally fell in love with
a guy who visit the cheater at all.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I spent ten years of my life thinking about this woman,
thinking that I made a difference, and it turns out
she's a person cheater too.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
I mean, relationships are complicated. Nothing's black again, everyone, I
don't like.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
That, but I think that like, it doesn't make you
a bad person or a good person.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yes, yeah, let's agree to disagree on that one. We
got to get to the third question here in the
middle of our closure call, we're trying to help out Courtney.
Courtney figure out what happened between this couple after she
sent them an email saying, your Beyonce has been talking
to me online. So this is ten years later, and
we wrote, tell me what your life is like today?
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Do you have any kids? Et cetera.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Would you already knew because you looked at her Instagram profile.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Well, we didn't know if that was her kid. It
could have been her niece, nephew or something like that.
I didn't think of that. So she wrote back, I
actually have two children. With the private investigation and obviously
left my first husband years.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Ago, which was a terrible relationship. We can all agree
on that.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
She says, Yeah, I feel safe now, and even though
my life story is strange and complicated, none of it
would have happened without you saying something to me.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I don't feel warm and fuzzy.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
About that really, like other options? Did you want her
to end up with?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
No, that's good question. You know what I thought about
over the past ten years. A good response that I
would have been satisfied with is that, hey, you open
my eyes. I moved on. I learned what respect looks
like and feels like, and I'm never going to do
that to somebody else, nor will I ever let it
happen to me.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
That would have been a good way she got to
the learn about respect thing.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
It just was maybe a more crooked line than you expected.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I mean, you never know, coordinating things could not work
out between her and the private investigator in the end,
and maybe that would make you.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
That they won't.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Okay, Well, she keeps going. She says, So, I really
appreciate you taking a risk and reaching out to me.
Everything happens for a reason. I never would have found
the love of my life if it wasn't for the
path you started me on.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Honest, lady, that's a little cute.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yes, she gave you a little praise there. Okay, we're
gonna get to this last question. The fourth and final
question we sent was do you have any advice for
me regarding my love life? What I'm recently single and
have been scared away from online dating. Understandably, any tips
would be.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Great we're asking her for.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Courtney wanted a little bit of advice.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
I no longer Hey, she fell love you don't read it.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I know you don't want it, Courtney, but I'm gonna
give it to you anyway, because I thought you're gonna
like this. She said, DM me your personal phone number
and I'll connect you with a very good private investigator
I know who can do a thorough background check on
any man you want, completely charge for the rest of
your life. So free, she says, it's the least I
can do for you after what you've done for me.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Please don't sleep with this one of her too.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yeah, you guys went for the same toxic man.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Ask you for advice circle, So well, look at that, Courtney,
you have a lifetime private investigator at your disposal.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Now, yeah, that is a perk. I do enjoy that,
all right.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
So, I know at the beginning of this call you
weren't liking how things were going. Do you feel like
maybe by the end now you got a little bit
of closure?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yes. I mean, I think I'm reacting so strongly because
I just had a narrative in my head for ten years.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
But I don't think any of us expected what came
out of here.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah, it sounds like a crazy Housewife drama novel.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Yes, well, it sounds like you two are going to
be having a little wine spritzer together soon, right, Yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Brooke might need that private investigator for herself in just
a few years. Make to stay in touch. That's her
closure call. It's Brook and Jeffrey in the morning
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Brooking Jeffrey in the Morning.
We all know in this room that whatever you write
on the Internet lives forever. Like back in twenty eleven
when Brooke posted on her Facebook, there isn't a more
accomplished and respected journalist on Earth than the Today Shows
Matt Lower.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I don't even want to ask if she still feels
the same way, because I think we all know she does.
She did. But ever, the only reason I bring it
up now is because one of our listeners chose to
put something online over a decade ago, and what she
(00:42):
said definitely changed one couple's life forever. It's really shocking
what she sent, and now she's desperate hoping to get
some closure. We're going to try and help her do
that when we do a closure call right after this.
It's Brook and Jeffrey in the morning. And do you
ever think back on an old friendship you had or
(01:03):
a stranger that you met once and thought, huh is
it me? Or did I permanently ruin their life?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
What?
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Well, another jagerbomb? Please?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I don't know that I've ever thought that, Jeff really, because.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I would think for the people in this room the
answer is almost definitely yes.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Maybe we're just not self aware enough.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Told is that the problem who ever met us is
probably worse off for it. But one of our listeners, Courtney,
is hoping that's not the case for her after something
happened years ago and now she wants our help to
get a little closure on it. Courtney, welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Hi guys, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Just gut feeling right now. Are you a bad person?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
It keeps me up at night?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Okay, that's very self aware of you.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
I appreciate that people, Jeff, people that just make bad choices.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Maybe Courtney, you're a bad choice person.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Well maybe not, we don't know yet. Jerry still out.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Okay, Okay, well you're losing sleep.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
So bombs after we hear your story. But go ahead
and tell us why you emailed the show for help.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
All right, So let me take you back to years ago.
I was talking to this guy online. And this was
before online dating was like how people met people.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
You know, it was still kind of a weird thing
to do, a little bit like.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
The Wild West of online dating.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Only the desperate people did it at that time. Right
now everybody does.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Wild girl, Courtney.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
So I'm at this guy and we started this online relationship. Okay, nice,
so he lived kind of far away from each other.
It was like a three hour drive, but we were
messaging each other every night for literally weeks.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Okay, and I mean three hours sucks, but it's doable.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
So we were trying to find a time to meet
up in person, and you know, it's all nerve brack.
So one night I decided to google his name and
I got a very shocking search result. I found his
wedding registry.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Oh oh, yeah, you're.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Sure it was him, Like it wasn't a guy with
saw pictures. So which item did you get for him?
Did you get him?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
I always love towels. I think nice towels are good.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Maybe the gravy boat. I always went with the gravy boat.
I got broken decanter for her wedding. Yeah, she always
talks about it.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I didn't give him a gravy boat or a decanter.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Or did you call him out on it?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
You know, at that point, I wasn't even sure what
to do. I was like, I have two choices. One
I can ignore it and pursue the relationship.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Oh that's a choice. I don't think that should be
on the table.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Cartney, that's always a choice. Remember she started this by
saying she thinks she might be a bad person, so
I would check out that.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I was, you know, pursue the relationship and confront the
guy with what I found. So that was option number one.
Or option number two was to reach out to his
fiance and tell her what happened.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Oh oh wait, the wedding hadn't even happened yet, it
was just the registered Yes.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I didn't understand that both.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Of these options are major decisions. Yeah, either way, what
did you go?
Speaker 4 (04:24):
So?
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I ended up opting for emailing his fiance and I
sent her the screenshot. The read receive everything from our conversation.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Honestly, you'd have to because nobody would believe you. I
wouldn't believe you if I got a random email from
a stranger.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Oh, I've known of people that try to say, listen,
your boyfriend's cheating, and the girlfriends like, you're just jealous.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Of our relation. Totally, I'm being serious.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yeah, I mean, Alexis, what would you do in this situation?
Would you email the fiance?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Hate conversations, I hate emails. I might just pretend it
never happened.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Wow, I mean, so you emailed the fiance.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
What did.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Did she reply back? What did she say? She did?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
She did? And you know when you see an email
in your inbox or a text or something in your
heart just dropped.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yeah, every time Brooke texts me, what did she write?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
So it was actually really brief and literally all it
said was thank you for telling me.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Yeah, that's what else?
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Would you expect her to say, like, hey, girly, thanks, yeah,
like you want to get drinks today?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I would I expect that she would like have some
questions or something like why are you doing this? She
didn't want anything from you.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
No, nothing, and I don't know, like it was really shocking,
and so I just ended up just stop talking to
the guy and moved on.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I mean, it sounds like you gave her everything she needed.
She had the receipts of text messages, she had very
detailed information about his affair.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I have a question, did you ever tell him? Did
you say, by the way I message your fiance, you're
a jerk on? Did you tell him off?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Like No, I was just like, you know what, he's
not worth my time if he's doing this and he's
supposed to be married by the end of the year,
Like it's just not worth it.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
So, yeah, who do you not have closure with?
Speaker 4 (06:28):
I'm confused because this sounds like pretty close to yeah yeah,
tight with a bow on top.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Well, here's the thing, I never found out what happened.
I've just been wondering, like, did they call off the wedding,
did they still go through it with it? Did my
email change literally anything? I just don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Curious.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I mean, there's a chance that you could have completely
ruined this couple's relationships.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
No, no, he ruined the couple relationship. She didn't.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
It would never have been ruined if she hadn't sent
that email.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
It's never been voted. If he didn't cheat people explain
the girl.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I'm just I don't know what got him eventually, I mean, so,
what did you work with our producer on for this
closure call?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Right?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
So?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
I found the girl on Instagram, but it's such a
private and I can't see any of her photos. But
I did, you know. I did the screenshot and then
zoom into the profile photo because I wanted to see
what it was. It's literally her holding a baby, And
so I sent her a DM with no response. And
that's why I want your guys to help to reach
(07:38):
out to the girl and just find out what happened,
because it's driving me crazy.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
It's oh my god.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Oh okay, yeah, wait, how many years ago was this again?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
It was like over a decade ago.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Whoa the baby could be anybody's Yeah, yeah, that's true too.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Oh god, this is tricky. We're gonna punt her.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
That's what we do best. So, Courtney, you worked with
our producer and sent over four questions to this girl
to find out what's happened since you sent that email
over a decade ago. She wrote back, Oh, she did,
and we're going to give you the answers that you've
been waiting over ten years to hear.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Oh my god, Oh my god. Okay, okay, I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
All right, we're gonna find out once and for all.
Are you a bad person when we do your closure
call right after this. We're in the middle of a
closure call about to get some much needed answers for
our listener, Courtney, because over a decade ago, she met
a great guy online who turned out to me not
so great because he was engaged after she stumbled across
(08:48):
his wedding registry on a Google search. But instead of
confronting him about it. She decided to email his fiance
and tell her what happened, and she only got the
response back, thanks for telling me.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Yeah, well, I mean that was it day she didn't
I mean, the fiance didn't owe her anything, right, And
I think I think Courtney did the right thing, you know,
like this woman wasn't married yet, like she had chance
to stop it.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
True, no question about that, But she never found out
if that meant they ended up breaking up or if
they went through with the wedding right.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Because she just ghosted the guy too.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
And the not knowing has bugged Courtney all these years.
So now finally here we are looking to get her
some answers once and for all. Courtney, how are you feeling?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Honestly, I'm really nervous and excited, and it's I don't
really know how to feel because it's been ten years
of wondering and now I'm going to get an answer.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
I'm worried that she just responded with a restraining order.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yeah, all knows, but I'm here for it. Well, we're
about to find out once and for all. Now again, Courtney,
you worked with our producer on sending four questions to
this girl to figure out what happened. Let's get into
your first question. Okay, the first one we sent was
when I contacted you eleven years ago. I was scared
(10:08):
and nervous. I can only imagine how you must have
felt when you received it. They told me this was anonymous,
and I've always been curious. What did you end up doing?
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Did you marry him? Did you break up with him?
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Right?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
And so this girl wrote back, Wow, yeah, I can
definitely say your message changed my life. WHOA I confronted
him with the information. Yeah, never mentioned your name or
how I knew?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Well, was it kind of obvious?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Well maybe he was doing it with a whole bunch
of different women and he wouldn't be able to pinpoint
which one it was. But she says, I just said
I knew and I needed a break.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Oh yeah, some much nicer words than I would have used.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
So we called off the wedding.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Oh they did?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Oh my god?
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Yeah, but didn't you expect that, Courtney?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Listen, I don't know, the mind does some crazy like
you can rationalize anything. So it's really good to hear
that she actually listened to me, and she called off
the wedding. I makes He's super I mean not happy.
It's sad for her, but like, I'm glad this guy
didn't get away with it.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I like that sentiment. But hold on, because there's more.
She says, Oh god. But a few months later we
reconnected and ended up going to couple's therapy. A year
later we both felt healed and decided to get married.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Whoa, that's oh my gosh, I'm speechless.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Like how you called off your wedding with this person.
You let everyone know he's a cheater, and then you
go to couples therapy a couple of times and you
get what woah, I.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Did to get everyone back together.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
You put the work in man and it could happen.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Cortney, are you one of those people who believes once
a cheater, always a cheater.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I mean, it's not even about the cheating, it's about
the lying and all this other stuff. If he's capable
of doing that and having a full blown every single
day talking with me for a month, and the capacity
of that is terrifying, Courtney.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
At least you made him pay for two different weddings.
So that's one to the second question. And remember we're
giving her all four questions at once. But I still
think the second one kind of works because we wrote
I'm really hoping you found love since then and are
happy now. Do you feel like that's the case? And
so this girl wrote back she said, well, even though
we felt healed and we're better communicators, I still felt
(12:32):
insecure and had trust issues. It would really heart so
just to be one hundred percent sure. After a year
of marriage, I hired a private investigator to follow my
husband direct.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Maybe you shouldn't have got married.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
That's a healthy relationship. If I talk to the couple,
every marriage goes through the private investigator. She keeps going,
She says, to my surprise, there was no infidelity parentheses,
at least not on his part. What is going on here?
(13:06):
But if she starts sleeping with a PI, she says, I,
on the other hand, fell in love with the investor.
I'm ashamed to.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Admit this woman is stupid.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
She says, I'm ashamed to admit started an affair with him.
I never thought. I never meant for that to happen.
It just did drama. This lady falls in love with
everyone that just says hello to this.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Could be better for her.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Thought, look what you did to this woman's life.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Honestly, I'm angry right now.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Wait, you're angry.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
You're not happy that she finally fell in love with
a guy who visit the cheater at all.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I spent ten years of my life thinking about this woman,
thinking that I made a difference, and it turns out
she's a person cheater too.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
I mean, relationships are complicated. Nothing's black again, everyone, I
don't like.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
That, but I think that like, it doesn't make you
a bad person or a good person.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yes, yeah, let's agree to disagree on that one. We
got to get to the third question here in the
middle of our closure call, we're trying to help out Courtney.
Courtney figure out what happened between this couple after she
sent them an email saying, your Beyonce has been talking
to me online. So this is ten years later, and
we wrote, tell me what your life is like today?
(14:31):
Do you have any kids? Et cetera.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Would you already knew because you looked at her Instagram profile.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Well, we didn't know if that was her kid. It
could have been her niece, nephew or something like that.
I didn't think of that. So she wrote back, I
actually have two children. With the private investigation and obviously
left my first husband years.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Ago, which was a terrible relationship. We can all agree
on that.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
She says, Yeah, I feel safe now, and even though
my life story is strange and complicated, none of it
would have happened without you saying something to me.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I don't feel warm and fuzzy.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
About that really, like other options? Did you want her
to end up with?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
No, that's good question. You know what I thought about
over the past ten years. A good response that I
would have been satisfied with is that, hey, you open
my eyes. I moved on. I learned what respect looks
like and feels like, and I'm never going to do
that to somebody else, nor will I ever let it
happen to me.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
That would have been a good way she got to
the learn about respect thing.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
It just was maybe a more crooked line than you expected.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I mean, you never know, coordinating things could not work
out between her and the private investigator in the end,
and maybe that would make you.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
That they won't.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Okay, Well, she keeps going. She says, So, I really
appreciate you taking a risk and reaching out to me.
Everything happens for a reason. I never would have found
the love of my life if it wasn't for the
path you started me on.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Honest, lady, that's a little cute.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yes, she gave you a little praise there. Okay, we're
gonna get to this last question. The fourth and final
question we sent was do you have any advice for
me regarding my love life? What I'm recently single and
have been scared away from online dating. Understandably, any tips
would be.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Great we're asking her for.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Courtney wanted a little bit of advice.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
I no longer Hey, she fell love you don't read it.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I know you don't want it, Courtney, but I'm gonna
give it to you anyway, because I thought you're gonna
like this. She said, DM me your personal phone number
and I'll connect you with a very good private investigator
I know who can do a thorough background check on
any man you want, completely charge for the rest of
your life. So free, she says, it's the least I
can do for you after what you've done for me.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Please don't sleep with this one of her too.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yeah, you guys went for the same toxic man.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Ask you for advice circle, So well, look at that, Courtney,
you have a lifetime private investigator at your disposal.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Now, yeah, that is a perk. I do enjoy that,
all right.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
So, I know at the beginning of this call you
weren't liking how things were going. Do you feel like
maybe by the end now you got a little bit
of closure?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yes. I mean, I think I'm reacting so strongly because
I just had a narrative in my head for ten years.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
But I don't think any of us expected what came
out of here.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah, it sounds like a crazy Housewife drama novel.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Yes, well, it sounds like you two are going to
be having a little wine spritzer together soon, right, Yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Brooke might need that private investigator for herself in just
a few years. Make to stay in touch. That's her
closure call. It's Brook and Jeffrey in the morning
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Brooking Jeffrey in the Morning.
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Alexis Fuller
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