May 9, 2025 • 17 mins
Our listener on the phone today claims his date said one specific thing to their waiter that wasn't just a green flag...but made him instantly realize she was relationship material! You’ll hear what it was in your brand new Second Date Update!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Second date, up date.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Sometimes you can tell right away if you're romantically compatible
with a person just by how they order at a restaurant.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Suddenly you're talking Jose's love language.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I know, Jose.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Like, for example, if you're at a fancy steakhouse and
they say, yeah, I'll get a side of onion petals,
no sauce, and a wedge salad as my mane, but
with no bacon, no blue cheese. Can I sub the
croutons for keen waff lakes instead? I'm like, Uh, can
(00:38):
we go ring shopping right now? Because that's the high
maintenance dream girl I've always needed in my life.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I mean, if you want super hot, that's what you
have to put up with. Yeah, they have to make sacrifice.
They can have a couple of bites exactly.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
That's how our listener Andy says he knew his date
was just.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
The right girl for him.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Oh really, we'll learn more about it in a second,
but first Andy, welcome to the show Man.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
How you doing, Hey, guys, thanks.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
For having me.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
Man, God, any time we open these Andy talking about food,
I'm immediately hungry. I absolutely want to know what was
ordered and what restaurant.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Well, every food related item.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
We'll get to all that stuff in just a second. First,
let's start with the name of this person, this girl
you met.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
What's she all about?
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Well, her name is Carla, Okay, and she's awesome. But
I've been recently been trying to kind of get out
on dating, seeing a little bit more okay, because i
was out of the market for a while and now
I'm back in and trying to get the lay of
the land.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
One thing that I've noticed is women these days, they're
so particular on their meals. I'm a laid back kind
of guy, and it's like it's super annoying when they're like,
oh this and not that, like just get some fish.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Look, people do low car but it's like, hey, no, rise,
I need ve Jesus overt adjustment.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
Like people are just more food conscious over both.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
It's sounds like you're pretty tired of that. Did that
happen on your date with Carla?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
That's the thing, not at all.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
That's all she had to do. She's like, I'll take
the blank and you were like.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
I love you?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Is that accurate?
Speaker 6 (02:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:18):
To go. She was a breath of fresh air, very
easy going. We went to a Mexican restaurant and all
she did was she just ordered the sashidas.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Just like the chicken.
Speaker 6 (02:28):
Well, I mean, the fietas are the ones that you
can put together yourself. You don't even have to ask
them for a substitution.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
You have to choose though, chicken or bee.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
So I mean already, like as soon as she orders,
does your whole mood change?
Speaker 4 (02:44):
And I was like totally under her and I was like, oh,
moving with me now.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
But that's awesome, dude.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
Did you tell her about your experiences and how refreshing
it was to see her order like that?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Yes, I don't want to pramply warn her so that
she gets all nervous when she's order her food.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yeah, yeah, all of that sounds great. You got the
green flag with the food order. Tell us what about
anything else that stood out on the date with Carla?
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (03:12):
I mean she's cute. She has a great personality, and
when she spoke about things, she would literally light up.
Like one of the questions I asked her I was like,
do you think your cat actually likes you or just
putting up with you?
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I like that question.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
On the date, what'd she say?
Speaker 4 (03:26):
She explained, like how they were like best friends, but
it wasn't like in a corny way. It was in
a very great energy kind of way.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Just a pause asking someone about their pets is a
good move always.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Okay, that personally lost me for dating Carla, but I'm
glad that you and her on the same page.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
You on high maintenance and yes, very low negative energy.
If you're just yeah, will get zero.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
I think that what's sweet is that she lit up
about her cat and you are literally lighting up talking
about her.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
It sounds so excited.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
How'd you mess it up?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Like?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
What did you do? How did the rest of the
dinner go?
Speaker 4 (04:04):
So the rest of the dinner was great. We hung
out way longer than we should have at the dinner table,
and then we decided we didn't want the night to end,
so we ended up kind of going back to my place.
We opened up a bottle of wine and we talked
some more. We had more conversations, Like one of them
was like about if you want to delete one app forever,
what would it be. My answer was TikTok, and she
was like, no, I want to believe venmo so I'd
(04:24):
never have to pay for anything again.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
Okay, and she's funny dude.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Okay, now I'm coming back around on yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Okay, So how did you and Carla leave it that night?
Speaker 4 (04:37):
I mean, I didn't want the night to be over,
but it was getting late and be irrespectful first date
and everything, so I called her an uber and she
went home and I haven't heard from her since. The
weird thing, though, is like i'll text her and she'll
like my text, but she's not responding, like, you know,
are you yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Are you asking a question? Or are you just saying hi.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
No a question? Like I'd love to see you again?
When can I take you out again? Like thumbs up?
And it's like, okay, well, I guess it thumbs up
as good, but I need an answer here.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Unless it's not even her answering and her cat has
the password to her phone, it's just getting in there,
pawing around, liking.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Your your text message, it's like, emphasize emphasis.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
You clearly had a strong connection the first time you
hung out, so it's weird that nothing's happened since.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
Ah, she's given like some positive vibes, it's not like she's.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
That's what scares me. When we call and talk to her.
We have to put up with those positive vibes and
hopefully get an answer out of her when we come
back and try and get you your second date update
right after this. Okay, thanks, appreciate you all right, hold
on that second date update. I only do this maybe
a couple times a year that I'm highlighting this second
(05:52):
date as one we have to get.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
This guy is so over heels from.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Curiously, I'm actually compared to all the other calls that
we've done this year, I'm actually going to put effort
into this one for our listener, Andy, you're not putting
an effort on your body.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
Leguage doesn't say that arms cruss or sitting down.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
This is my effort most.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Because Andy, he's on the phone with us. Andy, you
seem like a genuinely good guy. And the way that
you described your date Carla to us, she seems like
a really cool person too, because most guys that we
have on here, they just describe how hot their date's
bodies are and how they tricked them into spending the night.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Recently, I mean, I told her how much I could
bench press. I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
And while we're all impressed by that stuff, for sure,
you actually focused on Carla's personality and her words, So
clearly this means a lot to you.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Yes, that definitely does. And I appreciate the kind words,
and I also I appreciate the effort as well.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Okay from Jeffrey.
Speaker 6 (06:59):
Yeah, you know, rare people get it, so you should
count yourself lucky.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
What do you think is going on? Why do you
think it's been so hard with her?
Speaker 4 (07:08):
No clue to the algie, which is why I reached
out to you. It's like it's we had a great conversation,
had a great time at dinner, we had a great
time back in my house.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, it's a mystery to all of us, and we're
running out of time here, so we need to call her.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I'm going to dial her number right now. Good luck
to me. Here we go, good luck to me.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Hello.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Hey, is Carla there?
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Yeah? This is she?
Speaker 6 (07:39):
Who is this?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Hey? Carla?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Hi, Carla, love your name. By the way, my name
is Gross. It's jeff and I work on a radio
show called Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Okay, she sounds like a real sailor, but.
Speaker 6 (07:55):
It comes in it is.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
And we're not trying to shock you too much, but
we're calling as a favor to a really cool new
friend of ours. We spoke to him on the phone,
and you've met him before. He's a guy named Andy.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Oh oh whoa interesting?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
That was a negative?
Speaker 6 (08:16):
Oh yeah, I mean maybe it didn't come out right.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
You remember Andy?
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Right again? What is this about?
Speaker 5 (08:23):
I'm just I don't know what this is all about.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
This is a segment we do called second Date Update.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
It's about your date and Andy, according to him, said
that when you guys hung out, it was a lot
different than most of the other dates that he's gone
on this year, in a really good way. So we're
just trying to figure out if there's a reason why
there hasn't been a second meetup, because he's really hoping
for one.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I just I feel like
I probably didn't have gone to his apartment.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Gone to his apartment, he said, you guys didn't fool
around or anything.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
What was weird about his apartment?
Speaker 5 (08:59):
Okay, Well I'll just say this. There were a lot
of framed photos.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Okay, Okay, that's good.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
Usually usually bachelors can't figure out frames and take sure together.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah, I bought with a frame, like listen, why were
framed photos a red flag to you?
Speaker 5 (09:20):
There there are framed photos of him, of Andy Well.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I would hope that they would be him in his
own apartment.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
No, bro, I'm talking about my art, like him or
him with people.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Yeah, that's a good question.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Just him, just him when he was graduating, when he's
like heading a tiger. I think it was.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
That's cool.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Well, what's a red flag about that? To you?
Speaker 5 (09:47):
There were twenty of them him.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
That's a lot.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
But listen, he's a solo guy.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
He lives by himself, and obviously maybe he just has
him up because he wants to remind himself of all
the cool places he's bit.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
You know, maybe you should put up some stuff so
Brook you you would see this and you would think
this is normal.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Twenty plus pictures twenty's a lot.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
I don't know about normal.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
But I'm just like, I don't know that it's like
nefarious or means that he's a bad person.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
She doesn't say nefarious. She just said it's odd or
it's weird.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
She used it as a red flag, and it's the
reason that she's not calling him back.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
And I don't know that that's fair. That's all I'm saying.
He's like cocky too, But.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
I don't know that it is.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Oh yeah, were there any cocky pictures of him? And
you think, wow, this guy is a real chirch. Wrong, Jeff, Well,
I think it's so.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Yeah, he had a photo of himself flexing.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Did he have muscles?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Did he have muscles?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Like?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Was it good?
Speaker 5 (10:42):
It was okay at best?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I mean okay.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I mean we could go into detail and talk about
what was inside of all of his photos, But I'm
still trying to understand what the underlying problem is.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
You don't see it as a red flag.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
What is it He's confident in himself and like absorbed.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Self absorbed, or you're worried that he doesn't have friends.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
I did feel like it was clear to me after
being there for half an hour it would be difficult
to date someone who's already in a committed relationship with himself.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
Oh okay, Maybe it's that motivational thing people do where
you put a photo yourself as a kid in the mirror.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
He just has twenty of them.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Well, he's talking to the graduate.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Just came across as such a good guy.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I just felt, But I don't know, Maybe we got
a totally wrong read on him, and he's absolutely obsessed
with himself because he is on the other line right
now listening in on this conversation, which I guess.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Is about oh, oh, my god.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
And he does want to talk to you, Andy, Hi, Carla.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Hi. And this is like embarrassing for you. I don't
want to put you on black on the radio because
I thought we had a great time and then and
you weren't necessarily responding back to me, and I didn't
know you were gonna.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Be kind of hitting on all the photos of like
big moments in my life and stuff like that, and and.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
It's they're everywhere. There's one in the bathroom, like, whoa,
it's weird.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Look, Okay, I'm sorry. I'm I don't have very good
interior decoration skills. But you can say you make it
seem like I have a big crush on myself.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
That's okay, you could crush on yourself.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Can we ask, bro, like, when you were putting up
all those pictures, why like why did you put those up?
Speaker 4 (12:36):
I don't know. If there's just big moments in my
life that it's nice of when I'm walking around and
be reminded of them, like you mentioned the tigers like
that's a trip I took with my parents when I
went to Africa, or I do I do have a
shirtless Jim selfie on my well one?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Is that the bathroom one? Because I would understand.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Yeah, before I've been off the market for a while,
I might have gained a lot of weight and so
like this is a picture of like after I hit
my goal rate, like a type of thing.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Carl are you hearing him?
Speaker 5 (13:11):
I'm hearing this. I just feel like maybe he could
have asked one of his friends and like, is this
too many photos? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Yeah, it sounds like it didn't register with him at all.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
Like have you ever had anyone else comment about the
excessive amount of photos?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (13:30):
I don't really, I don't have a lot of people
come over to be honest with you. And then you
think about decorating with sock target photos of like red
succulent plants or whatever.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Okay, well, let's not hate on people that like to
decorate from Target because they have some good stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
You should use a woman's touch. Maybe you two can
help each other. I was just an adjusted a little bit.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
Maybe you have a reasonable amount that he should have, Carla,
is there a number and that's okay, of course.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Like three macs world could have choose just three for moment.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Actually, Andy, I have a good suggestion for you. They
have these digital photo frames. Now we're all rotate through
like five hundred, and you don't have to limit it down.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Look, I'm definitely open to some options here, but I
mean some of them need to stay up.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Here.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
He's taking this instride. Some people could have gotten really
defensive about it.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
He went through all of this effort just to get
in touch.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
With you, and look at what he could look like.
I mean that gym picture she was okay, Well.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
No, it's room for improvement, is what I'm hearing.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
So I mean, if you give me a second date
that leads to the third, fourth, one hundred dates, then
we can start hanging up pictures of us together.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Pictures of you.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
So, now that you know everything, Carlo, you've heard what
he has to say, would you consider going out with
him again?
Speaker 1 (14:53):
We would pay for it.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
I mean, I feel like he was kind of in
the dark about it. It's not like he's in love
with himself, which I was really worried about. Yeah, I
would be interested, but he has to take down some
of those photos if I'm going back.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
Or at least turn them around so not all of
him is looking at you at the same time.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Okay, you guys can actually do that on your next date.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Oh yeah, pick your top one.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Yeah, I'm totally down. We'll go out to dinner. Then
afterwards you can go back and have a redecoration party.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Congratulations, Andy, you got another meet up with Carla.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Thank you guys so much. I really appreciate your how we.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Set a goal to get them together and we did it,
Guys without even one picture of us.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Hey, yeahs of us.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
That is our effort for the entire year. We can
go back to not caring any can bail.
Speaker 6 (15:43):
It in.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Freaking Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
You know today's second date was a good lesson for me.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Yeah, to put effort into things.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
No, because I have lots of frame photos of myself
up in my place.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I believe my thing isn't in any of them. Take
to capture other stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
But I almost asked what was and that was.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
No, you can't come over and check it out if
you want.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
I'm good, I might get printed it like a public place.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Well, now I know I need to limit them down
to just three, So that's good to know. But I
do think Brooke actually said it best during the segment
because he seemed genuinely surprised that too many photos of
himself could be something.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
That derails a date. Right, Yeah, but good for him.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
He was open minded, he was willing to change and adjust.
That's literally the number one thing you can do to
be in a successful relationship.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
I mean, it's so hard for people these days to
hear's something like maybe a somewhat critical about themselves and think, yeah, oh, okay,
well I can fix that. No, that's a great thing
to think.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
After that.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
They really were a great match and I hope that
we do get an update from them soon, and you
could be the next couple that we get an update from.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
If you email the show, well call.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
That person who's not calling you back and go check
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
Sometimes you can tell right away if you're romantically compatible
with a person just by how they order at a restaurant.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Suddenly you're talking Jose's love language.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I know, Jose.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Like, for example, if you're at a fancy steakhouse and
they say, yeah, I'll get a side of onion petals,
no sauce, and a wedge salad as my mane, but
with no bacon, no blue cheese. Can I sub the
croutons for keen waff lakes instead? I'm like, Uh, can
(00:38):
we go ring shopping right now? Because that's the high
maintenance dream girl I've always needed in my life.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I mean, if you want super hot, that's what you
have to put up with. Yeah, they have to make sacrifice.
They can have a couple of bites exactly.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
That's how our listener Andy says he knew his date
was just.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
The right girl for him.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Oh really, we'll learn more about it in a second,
but first Andy, welcome to the show Man.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
How you doing, Hey, guys, thanks.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
For having me.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
Man, God, any time we open these Andy talking about food,
I'm immediately hungry. I absolutely want to know what was
ordered and what restaurant.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Well, every food related item.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
We'll get to all that stuff in just a second. First,
let's start with the name of this person, this girl
you met.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
What's she all about?
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Well, her name is Carla, Okay, and she's awesome. But
I've been recently been trying to kind of get out
on dating, seeing a little bit more okay, because i
was out of the market for a while and now
I'm back in and trying to get the lay of
the land.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
One thing that I've noticed is women these days, they're
so particular on their meals. I'm a laid back kind
of guy, and it's like it's super annoying when they're like,
oh this and not that, like just get some fish.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Look, people do low car but it's like, hey, no, rise,
I need ve Jesus overt adjustment.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
Like people are just more food conscious over both.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
It's sounds like you're pretty tired of that. Did that
happen on your date with Carla?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
That's the thing, not at all.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
That's all she had to do. She's like, I'll take
the blank and you were like.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
I love you?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Is that accurate?
Speaker 6 (02:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:18):
To go. She was a breath of fresh air, very
easy going. We went to a Mexican restaurant and all
she did was she just ordered the sashidas.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Just like the chicken.
Speaker 6 (02:28):
Well, I mean, the fietas are the ones that you
can put together yourself. You don't even have to ask
them for a substitution.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
You have to choose though, chicken or bee.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
So I mean already, like as soon as she orders,
does your whole mood change?
Speaker 4 (02:44):
And I was like totally under her and I was like, oh,
moving with me now.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
But that's awesome, dude.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
Did you tell her about your experiences and how refreshing
it was to see her order like that?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Yes, I don't want to pramply warn her so that
she gets all nervous when she's order her food.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yeah, yeah, all of that sounds great. You got the
green flag with the food order. Tell us what about
anything else that stood out on the date with Carla?
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (03:12):
I mean she's cute. She has a great personality, and
when she spoke about things, she would literally light up.
Like one of the questions I asked her I was like,
do you think your cat actually likes you or just
putting up with you?
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I like that question.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
On the date, what'd she say?
Speaker 4 (03:26):
She explained, like how they were like best friends, but
it wasn't like in a corny way. It was in
a very great energy kind of way.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Just a pause asking someone about their pets is a
good move always.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Okay, that personally lost me for dating Carla, but I'm
glad that you and her on the same page.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
You on high maintenance and yes, very low negative energy.
If you're just yeah, will get zero.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
I think that what's sweet is that she lit up
about her cat and you are literally lighting up talking
about her.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
It sounds so excited.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
How'd you mess it up?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Like?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
What did you do? How did the rest of the
dinner go?
Speaker 4 (04:04):
So the rest of the dinner was great. We hung
out way longer than we should have at the dinner table,
and then we decided we didn't want the night to end,
so we ended up kind of going back to my place.
We opened up a bottle of wine and we talked
some more. We had more conversations, Like one of them
was like about if you want to delete one app forever,
what would it be. My answer was TikTok, and she
was like, no, I want to believe venmo so I'd
(04:24):
never have to pay for anything again.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
Okay, and she's funny dude.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Okay, now I'm coming back around on yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Okay, So how did you and Carla leave it that night?
Speaker 4 (04:37):
I mean, I didn't want the night to be over,
but it was getting late and be irrespectful first date
and everything, so I called her an uber and she
went home and I haven't heard from her since. The
weird thing, though, is like i'll text her and she'll
like my text, but she's not responding, like, you know,
are you yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Are you asking a question? Or are you just saying hi.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
No a question? Like I'd love to see you again?
When can I take you out again? Like thumbs up?
And it's like, okay, well, I guess it thumbs up
as good, but I need an answer here.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Unless it's not even her answering and her cat has
the password to her phone, it's just getting in there,
pawing around, liking.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Your your text message, it's like, emphasize emphasis.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
You clearly had a strong connection the first time you
hung out, so it's weird that nothing's happened since.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
Ah, she's given like some positive vibes, it's not like she's.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
That's what scares me. When we call and talk to her.
We have to put up with those positive vibes and
hopefully get an answer out of her when we come
back and try and get you your second date update
right after this. Okay, thanks, appreciate you all right, hold
on that second date update. I only do this maybe
a couple times a year that I'm highlighting this second
(05:52):
date as one we have to get.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
This guy is so over heels from.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Curiously, I'm actually compared to all the other calls that
we've done this year, I'm actually going to put effort
into this one for our listener, Andy, you're not putting
an effort on your body.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
Leguage doesn't say that arms cruss or sitting down.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
This is my effort most.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Because Andy, he's on the phone with us. Andy, you
seem like a genuinely good guy. And the way that
you described your date Carla to us, she seems like
a really cool person too, because most guys that we
have on here, they just describe how hot their date's
bodies are and how they tricked them into spending the night.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Recently, I mean, I told her how much I could
bench press. I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
And while we're all impressed by that stuff, for sure,
you actually focused on Carla's personality and her words, So
clearly this means a lot to you.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Yes, that definitely does. And I appreciate the kind words,
and I also I appreciate the effort as well.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Okay from Jeffrey.
Speaker 6 (06:59):
Yeah, you know, rare people get it, so you should
count yourself lucky.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
What do you think is going on? Why do you
think it's been so hard with her?
Speaker 4 (07:08):
No clue to the algie, which is why I reached
out to you. It's like it's we had a great conversation,
had a great time at dinner, we had a great
time back in my house.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, it's a mystery to all of us, and we're
running out of time here, so we need to call her.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I'm going to dial her number right now. Good luck
to me. Here we go, good luck to me.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Hello.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Hey, is Carla there?
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Yeah? This is she?
Speaker 6 (07:39):
Who is this?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Hey? Carla?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Hi, Carla, love your name. By the way, my name
is Gross. It's jeff and I work on a radio
show called Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Okay, she sounds like a real sailor, but.
Speaker 6 (07:55):
It comes in it is.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
And we're not trying to shock you too much, but
we're calling as a favor to a really cool new
friend of ours. We spoke to him on the phone,
and you've met him before. He's a guy named Andy.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Oh oh whoa interesting?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
That was a negative?
Speaker 6 (08:16):
Oh yeah, I mean maybe it didn't come out right.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
You remember Andy?
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Right again? What is this about?
Speaker 5 (08:23):
I'm just I don't know what this is all about.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
This is a segment we do called second Date Update.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
It's about your date and Andy, according to him, said
that when you guys hung out, it was a lot
different than most of the other dates that he's gone
on this year, in a really good way. So we're
just trying to figure out if there's a reason why
there hasn't been a second meetup, because he's really hoping
for one.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I just I feel like
I probably didn't have gone to his apartment.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Gone to his apartment, he said, you guys didn't fool
around or anything.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
What was weird about his apartment?
Speaker 5 (08:59):
Okay, Well I'll just say this. There were a lot
of framed photos.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Okay, Okay, that's good.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
Usually usually bachelors can't figure out frames and take sure together.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah, I bought with a frame, like listen, why were
framed photos a red flag to you?
Speaker 5 (09:20):
There there are framed photos of him, of Andy Well.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I would hope that they would be him in his
own apartment.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
No, bro, I'm talking about my art, like him or
him with people.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Yeah, that's a good question.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Just him, just him when he was graduating, when he's
like heading a tiger. I think it was.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
That's cool.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Well, what's a red flag about that? To you?
Speaker 5 (09:47):
There were twenty of them him.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
That's a lot.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
But listen, he's a solo guy.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
He lives by himself, and obviously maybe he just has
him up because he wants to remind himself of all
the cool places he's bit.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
You know, maybe you should put up some stuff so
Brook you you would see this and you would think
this is normal.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Twenty plus pictures twenty's a lot.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
I don't know about normal.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
But I'm just like, I don't know that it's like
nefarious or means that he's a bad person.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
She doesn't say nefarious. She just said it's odd or
it's weird.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
She used it as a red flag, and it's the
reason that she's not calling him back.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
And I don't know that that's fair. That's all I'm saying.
He's like cocky too, But.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
I don't know that it is.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Oh yeah, were there any cocky pictures of him? And
you think, wow, this guy is a real chirch. Wrong, Jeff, Well,
I think it's so.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Yeah, he had a photo of himself flexing.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Did he have muscles?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Did he have muscles?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Like?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Was it good?
Speaker 5 (10:42):
It was okay at best?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I mean okay.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I mean we could go into detail and talk about
what was inside of all of his photos, But I'm
still trying to understand what the underlying problem is.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
You don't see it as a red flag.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
What is it He's confident in himself and like absorbed.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Self absorbed, or you're worried that he doesn't have friends.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
I did feel like it was clear to me after
being there for half an hour it would be difficult
to date someone who's already in a committed relationship with himself.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
Oh okay, Maybe it's that motivational thing people do where
you put a photo yourself as a kid in the mirror.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
He just has twenty of them.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Well, he's talking to the graduate.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Just came across as such a good guy.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I just felt, But I don't know, Maybe we got
a totally wrong read on him, and he's absolutely obsessed
with himself because he is on the other line right
now listening in on this conversation, which I guess.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Is about oh, oh, my god.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
And he does want to talk to you, Andy, Hi, Carla.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Hi. And this is like embarrassing for you. I don't
want to put you on black on the radio because
I thought we had a great time and then and
you weren't necessarily responding back to me, and I didn't
know you were gonna.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Be kind of hitting on all the photos of like
big moments in my life and stuff like that, and and.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
It's they're everywhere. There's one in the bathroom, like, whoa,
it's weird.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Look, Okay, I'm sorry. I'm I don't have very good
interior decoration skills. But you can say you make it
seem like I have a big crush on myself.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
That's okay, you could crush on yourself.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Can we ask, bro, like, when you were putting up
all those pictures, why like why did you put those up?
Speaker 4 (12:36):
I don't know. If there's just big moments in my
life that it's nice of when I'm walking around and
be reminded of them, like you mentioned the tigers like
that's a trip I took with my parents when I
went to Africa, or I do I do have a
shirtless Jim selfie on my well one?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Is that the bathroom one? Because I would understand.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Yeah, before I've been off the market for a while,
I might have gained a lot of weight and so
like this is a picture of like after I hit
my goal rate, like a type of thing.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Carl are you hearing him?
Speaker 5 (13:11):
I'm hearing this. I just feel like maybe he could
have asked one of his friends and like, is this
too many photos? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Yeah, it sounds like it didn't register with him at all.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
Like have you ever had anyone else comment about the
excessive amount of photos?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (13:30):
I don't really, I don't have a lot of people
come over to be honest with you. And then you
think about decorating with sock target photos of like red
succulent plants or whatever.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Okay, well, let's not hate on people that like to
decorate from Target because they have some good stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
You should use a woman's touch. Maybe you two can
help each other. I was just an adjusted a little bit.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
Maybe you have a reasonable amount that he should have, Carla,
is there a number and that's okay, of course.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Like three macs world could have choose just three for moment.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Actually, Andy, I have a good suggestion for you. They
have these digital photo frames. Now we're all rotate through
like five hundred, and you don't have to limit it down.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Look, I'm definitely open to some options here, but I
mean some of them need to stay up.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Here.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
He's taking this instride. Some people could have gotten really
defensive about it.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
He went through all of this effort just to get
in touch.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
With you, and look at what he could look like.
I mean that gym picture she was okay, Well.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
No, it's room for improvement, is what I'm hearing.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
So I mean, if you give me a second date
that leads to the third, fourth, one hundred dates, then
we can start hanging up pictures of us together.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Pictures of you.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
So, now that you know everything, Carlo, you've heard what
he has to say, would you consider going out with
him again?
Speaker 1 (14:53):
We would pay for it.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
I mean, I feel like he was kind of in
the dark about it. It's not like he's in love
with himself, which I was really worried about. Yeah, I
would be interested, but he has to take down some
of those photos if I'm going back.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
Or at least turn them around so not all of
him is looking at you at the same time.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Okay, you guys can actually do that on your next date.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Oh yeah, pick your top one.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Yeah, I'm totally down. We'll go out to dinner. Then
afterwards you can go back and have a redecoration party.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Congratulations, Andy, you got another meet up with Carla.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Thank you guys so much. I really appreciate your how we.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Set a goal to get them together and we did it,
Guys without even one picture of us.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Hey, yeahs of us.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
That is our effort for the entire year. We can
go back to not caring any can bail.
Speaker 6 (15:43):
It in.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Freaking Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
You know today's second date was a good lesson for me.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Yeah, to put effort into things.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
No, because I have lots of frame photos of myself
up in my place.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I believe my thing isn't in any of them. Take
to capture other stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
But I almost asked what was and that was.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
No, you can't come over and check it out if
you want.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
I'm good, I might get printed it like a public place.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Well, now I know I need to limit them down
to just three, So that's good to know. But I
do think Brooke actually said it best during the segment
because he seemed genuinely surprised that too many photos of
himself could be something.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
That derails a date. Right, Yeah, but good for him.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
He was open minded, he was willing to change and adjust.
That's literally the number one thing you can do to
be in a successful relationship.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
I mean, it's so hard for people these days to
hear's something like maybe a somewhat critical about themselves and think, yeah, oh, okay,
well I can fix that. No, that's a great thing
to think.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
After that.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
They really were a great match and I hope that
we do get an update from them soon, and you
could be the next couple that we get an update from.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
If you email the show, well call.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
That person who's not calling you back and go check
out all of our second dates wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
They're available at Rook and Jeffery
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