March 17, 2025 • 17 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Second date of date. I'll admit, when I first started dating,
I thought people went on dates to like find true love.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I like that for a.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Long I really did what naive little boy way to think.
Because some people, some people just date for the free meal.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Somebody knew exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Some people just date because they need somebody to administer
that EpiPen shot at the shellfish buffet. Oh my gosh,
where I go. It's half off of crabs legs. I'm
not gonna not eat that. So yeah, a lot of reasons.
And today our listener Lucy is asking for a second date,
even though she isn't one hundred percent sure why she
wants to date this guy that's been there. So hopefully
(00:51):
just talking it out with us might give you some clarity.
But welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Hi, I love it.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Like four minutes into our conversation, she just hangs up, No, actually.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Was a bad choice. Well, Lucy, tell us about this
guy that you met, like, start from the beginning.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Okay, so his name is Nate. I just want to
get everything out in the open because I'm confused. I
am way better looking than this hand and it's.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Coming in hot there.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Okay, all right, I like it. Okay, I heard that
he's not as good looking as you. I didn't hear
what you said after that.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Oh, I only heard the humility, so that.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Sorry, humble, Lucy.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
What was the other reason, Well, he's not chasing me
the way that I normally get chased after a date.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
You normally have men like physically chasing you, or you
just mean like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Possibly most of the time, yes, okay, can I guess?
I mean not just his looks, but also his personality
is probably not typically what you normally date.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
No, not really, Like we met on hinge and he
seems normal, like a nice sky he's sort of cute
special Wait.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Stopped gagging during the description.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
After my friends they're like, I'll give a guy a chance,
I'll try something different, and then he stops talking to her,
and it's like, what's wrong in the world?
Speaker 5 (02:11):
You know?
Speaker 6 (02:12):
Is off?
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Like how she said he seemed normal and he's obviously
abnormal because he's not going out.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
But even though he seemed normal and nice and totally
out of the ordinary, you still went out with him?
I did.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
I mean, yes, I was kind of bored, so I
was like why not?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yeah, but personality can add the looks once you meet someone.
So how was it when you first met him? Like,
what was that moment?
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Like, well, he invited me to a bar for happy
hour and it was kind of early for a date.
That was like five Well.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
That's happy hour, yeah okay, okay, yeah, the late night crowds.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
So all right, So what happened?
Speaker 4 (02:50):
The conversation went, Well, he was more confident than I
thought he would be. He was dressed very well.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
When you can, I just ask like, is so like
you're saying he's more confident because you still think he's
not very attractive. Correct, Okay, I want to know when
you very first saw him, what was your reaction.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
I think it was like, I'm doing this guy a favor.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Okay, You're like, he's not trying yet, but he will
be when I'm done.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
I'm just being honest.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Okay, you guys asked me the question.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
All right. Sometimes I do see couples and I'm like, Wow,
she's gorgeous. How did he pull her? Now I'm wondering
do girls do this and in their head it's like.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
A charity case.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Well, you have to understand, she's the one that's calling
us right now.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
She's the one chasing him.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah, okay, although there's a reason we didn't answer your
first question, Jose, But that's okay, So tell us more
what happens during this happy hour drink state.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Conversation went well, and then he started asking me about
what type of food I like, and I was like,
he's going to try to roll this into grabbing dinner
with me.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Oh okay.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
She's like, oh god, this guy's gonna try and feed
me too. Is that is that kind of where you're
you're normally at, Lucy.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
I mean making it sound like it's out of the ordinary,
but that's not where my head was at the time.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Okay, So you're excited to continue the day with him?
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Excited might be a strong word, like medium excited, all right, okay.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Willing to go along with it a little longer, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Okay, But here's the weird thing. I tell him what
kind of food I'm interested in, like Italian Jebanese, and
his response cool, Well, anyway, this has been chill, but
I gotta go meet up.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
What immediately do.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
You that's not even a good review of the date,
Like this has been chill?
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Why would you even ask what I'd like to eat?
And I just said meet up with who? And he
was like, oh, just a friend, I'll catch you later. Though, Oh,
did this guy.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Maybe a huge player?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
This feels like the perfect So I think that he
just maybe saw through that you weren't attracted to him
and you were interested in surface things.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Did you miss that I am way better looking? Like
he never should have had a chance.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Some people aren't looking for just look you gave off
like I'm better than you vibes.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
But he did say i'll catch you later, So there's
some hope for a second meet up there. Did he ever?
What was that the end of all conversation?
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Well, I texted him a little later and said, hey,
I had a really great time. It was coleeting you,
and he just hurted it.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
What he could have just thumbs up it and that
would have been I.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Can't wait to talk to this guy. I don't feel like, like,
why do you want to go out with him again?
It's just like a game. I don't why are we
calling him?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Yeah, what made you reach out to us for help?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Well, we have to hear his side.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I'm too curious, Like, who did he have to meet
that was more important than me at that moment?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
So I don't think you're gonna like anything, he says.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Maybe his like family member was in the hospital and
he had to go visit her or him at that point.
Would that change your mind?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
You don't say meet up with someone if you're going
to the Hospit Oh, pretty much.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Dead right now. Meet up.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
She decided the moment she saw him that she was
not going to go out with him again. It's just
that he is calling her, driving her.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
There is a little bit of a power dynamic going on,
and I am excited to hopefully get him on the phone.
We'll see what he has to say if he answers
in your second date update. Right after this hold second
date update, let's recap what we know about our listener
Lucy and her date with Nate the other day.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
It's a rough one, Jeff Well.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Number one, according to her, she is way hotter than him.
Number two, he was lucky to be going out with
someone as hot as she was. And number three, his
personality was fine, but not as fine as her hotness.
And despite all of that, uh huh, Nate was the
one who cut their date short after just one drink.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
So weird. It seems like she's so deep.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
It is that he was confident.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, why would he be confident?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
I'm not sure, but it's all very unusual for Lucy. Clearly,
it's got her a little bit flustered, very confused, which
is the reason why she wants us to give him
a call and get some answers. Right, Lucy, you guys
make me.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Sound like I'm so shallow. I'm not.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Okay, you know what.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I think that just the conversation we had made that happen.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
But yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I am just trying to paint a picture for you here.
I think it's very important to note that I am,
in fact hotter than him.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Okay, fact like a brat. We're not that. We were
all agree I want photos. Well, don't you get under
We're all taking your word for it. But I think
what what what would really help us is if you
could think of one nice thing to say about him
that we could bring up once we get him on
(08:16):
the phone, something that you liked about.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Him, that's he really did hold down a conversation.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Well okay, and you actually sounds sincere about that, which
I appreciate.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Okay, when I say he did that, he barely did it.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
But he did it, okay, But I'm just gonna make
a note he knows how to have a conversation so
that I can compliment him sort.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Of just end it there.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I'm just going to bring it up to him just
so we could say something nice and that usually helps
people open up a little.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Sounds like a confident, great guy.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Okay, So let's hope he holds a conversation. We're going
to talk to him on the radio if he answers. First,
we got to get him on the phone. Let me
dial in. We'll see if he picks up, and then
we can move from there. Here we go. Hello, Hey,
is this Nate?
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Uh yeah, cute voice, Brook coming.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Can you give him some compliments? Okay?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
All right, this is We're a radio show. We're called
Brook and Jeffrey.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
In the Morning.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Good morning.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Uh yeah, I'm a little busy right now. And what's
going on?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, so we won't take up too much of your time.
What we're doing is a segment it's called a second
Date Update, where we're trying to help one of our
listeners get back in touch with you after you two
went out on a hot date the other night.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
A short date.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
I think he ended it pretty short.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Who are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (09:45):
It's a woman named Lucy.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Lucy Yeah, okay, super serious, laughing. It totally checks out.
It totally checks out that she would be.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
The one calling out What does that mean?
Speaker 6 (10:00):
Yeah, she's texted me like four times in the last
couple of days, like I barely sponsor her.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
So that's okay. So clearly you you know what you're
doing here. This is all on purpose.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
It's a power play.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
It sounds like, well, it's just she's that type of girl,
Like there's a type.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
What does that mean? Explain the type.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
Though, Like she's very attractive, but she's been told all
her life since she's attractive, so she knows it.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
And then she's like, no, I'm better, and I'm like no,
I can't relax.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
So do you do you not like her?
Speaker 6 (10:27):
Then?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Like is that negative or positive? I can't tell.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
No, She's fine, Like it's just a matter of Like
there's two things you got to deal with with women,
like Lucy, keep the date really short.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Right, that's the thing. You got to keep the date
really short. Like I knew that if I kept the date.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Going longer, longer, I had the suspicion that she was like,
oh good, a free.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Meal out of me, and I'm not. That's not what
I'm about.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Okay. So this is like a rule of strategy that
you've come up with for dating beautiful women.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
It's not just beautiful women, it's beautiful women who know
that they're beautiful and think that they're better than you
because they're people.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Okay, waiting jem specific type of girls. Most women in
my case, I don't get it though, Like you want
to keep the date short because you want to keep
her attracted to you, or you want to keep the
date short because you don't ever want to see her again.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
No, it's definitely because I want to keep her interested.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
And you're the woman I gluecy.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
The longer the date goes, the less interested she becomes
because she knows all about you.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
So you mentioned earlier there's two things that you always do.
You keep the date short. Was one short.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
You don't give them any information. You just hey, I
gotta go talk to you later.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
So when you said you were going to meet up
with a friend, that was a lie.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
That wasn'tna lie. That was we were at the gym.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
I want to want to go to the gym to
meet her friend at the gym.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
But I'm not going to give her specifics.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
I'm not gonna where and when and with who because
I know that the moment I say that, all the
mystery is gone.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Wow wow, oh my god. Yeah, who's used to dating girls?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Okay, so she found she found someone who.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Is so clearly you seem to have some sort of
strategy with her, well, a very a very clear plan.
When do you plan to actually meet up with her again? Like?
How do you make that happen?
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Well, when I reach out to her, I'll say like, hey,
do you want to get a COVID drinks?
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Or do you want to get some dinner tonight? And
it's always got to be like last.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Minute, Okay, throw her a boat.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
I've been dodging her and I've been keeping it vague
for so long that now she's going to be like,
oh I got.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
It track with the irons hot that that's all right?
Speaker 6 (12:34):
This plan.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yeah, you're breaking Brooks spirit. The more that you talk
about it, it's just like.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Proud of him.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, I think she's proud of himself with this energy.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Or go out with someone who thinks they're better than you?
Speaker 6 (12:47):
Like, yeah, I definitely wouldn't do this with everybody. I
don't do this whole like every woman is the same thing.
I just know the type of woman and when I
ask her, Hey, what do you like to eat? And
she's like hinting, like the most expensive restaurants.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Come on, dude, Yeah, you know how these women are.
They try and like manipulate you. They try and like
tell you how to live the relationship. And then and
then they wait on the other line of this phone call,
listening in on this radio show this entire time to
everything that you said.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Right, Well, what are you talking about? What did that mean?
Speaker 6 (13:22):
Well?
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I thought I thought you would have known by now.
Lucy's on the other line listening to this. What. Yeah,
that's how this works, Lucy, are you there?
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Hi?
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Nathan?
Speaker 1 (13:34):
He was Nate before full name.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
You seriously thought like you were gonna hit my confidence.
Bab you can't bread crumb me, okay, I own the bakery.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
Oh oh god, Lucy, Lucy, you can't say all of
this after you've called.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
The radio station to get folded. You're not much. You're in.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
I'm a curious about why you were being an asshole,
And now I know because you like games.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
What I just I'm better at the game than you.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Are to pick up artist. Okay, you think negging women
is the way to go, you are an a.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
No, that's not at all. That's not true at all.
I think negging you is the right way, Honey.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
It doesn't work that way, It doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Just did.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
You literally called the radio station to get hold of me?
Speaker 5 (14:39):
How you say that?
Speaker 4 (14:40):
No one like, no one treat me like that?
Speaker 5 (14:44):
You know that nobody does.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Defense a lot? She did say. Remember, even if he
likes me, I don't want.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
To go out with him again.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
I Mean, here's the thing, Lucy, Like, it's not that
you're beautiful, it's that you're I am. Yeah, she's gorgeous.
The reason he's playing the game is because you go
around acting.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Like you're better than everybody else.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
And that is fact. Are facts? I am better looking
than him?
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Okay, Well.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
This, Lucy, Yeah, she absolutely is better looking than me.
But I have a wrap around my little finger.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
I've got your finger right here. Okay, and you get one.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Well, let's save that for the bedroom, guys, because this
is getting a little bit spicy. What I think I
I'm trying to just read between the lines of that conversation,
and what Lucy was trying to say is she's willing
to give you one more chance to do the date
the right way.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Wait, I think she's talking right now.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Well, Lucy, this is going to be my time because
we're running. We're running short here because I have to
ask Nate, would you be willing to go out with
Lucy one more time?
Speaker 4 (15:56):
You ask me? You don't need to ask him. I
reject him.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
You judge whoa is?
Speaker 3 (16:01):
That? Was that your last power move?
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Okay, I'm not even gonna say yes or no. That's
the beautiful I'm just gonna leave it vague and I'll
just wait for her text later.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
He's so good. Oh my god, I Alexis wants to
tell you.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
All right, it's a game of chicken.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
We need to see you.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I'll text you, gonna text to first, Nathan.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
It's gonna be her.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Jeffrey in the morning. Is it just me or was
that guy like the hot girl whisperer? He just knows
exactly what to say any hot girl to have them
eating out of his hands.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I don't think it's that hard when they're not that deep.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Jeff But that that in itself is like a crazy
difficult thing for a guy to do.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
But why would you want to That's my whole point.
There's plenty of hot girls to have substance, Like, why
would you want one without it?
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Show me one, jef.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Right here, she's a hot girl with substance. That's nice
of you, that's true, silent, but I'm.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Glad you think so. I mean, this whole strategy really
was just like basically, don't say anything right for guy. Yeah, yeah,
just stay vague, don't tell them, which is interesting and
this is why I'll never get dates because I.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Can't shut up.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
So if we want hot girls to listen to our podcasts,
I guess we should just be vague about it. Yeah. So, uh,
any hot girls it's online somewhere, comedians, Yeah, go find it.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
We got a boun never going to date someone higher.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah, but think about the hot girls are going to
listen to our podcasts.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I'm sure yeah, they can't resist you.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
By the way, the official one is Brook and Jeffrey's
Second Date Update. There's a lot of fakes and knockoffs right.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Now, so don't I mean, seriously than you.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Brook and Jeffery Second Date Update. Find it online, wherever
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Speaker 2 (17:54):
Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning
Second date of date. I'll admit, when I first started dating,
I thought people went on dates to like find true love.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I like that for a.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Long I really did what naive little boy way to think.
Because some people, some people just date for the free meal.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Somebody knew exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Some people just date because they need somebody to administer
that EpiPen shot at the shellfish buffet. Oh my gosh,
where I go. It's half off of crabs legs. I'm
not gonna not eat that. So yeah, a lot of reasons.
And today our listener Lucy is asking for a second date,
even though she isn't one hundred percent sure why she
wants to date this guy that's been there. So hopefully
(00:51):
just talking it out with us might give you some clarity.
But welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Hi, I love it.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Like four minutes into our conversation, she just hangs up, No, actually.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Was a bad choice. Well, Lucy, tell us about this
guy that you met, like, start from the beginning.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Okay, so his name is Nate. I just want to
get everything out in the open because I'm confused. I
am way better looking than this hand and it's.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Coming in hot there.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Okay, all right, I like it. Okay, I heard that
he's not as good looking as you. I didn't hear
what you said after that.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Oh, I only heard the humility, so that.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Sorry, humble, Lucy.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
What was the other reason, Well, he's not chasing me
the way that I normally get chased after a date.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
You normally have men like physically chasing you, or you
just mean like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Possibly most of the time, yes, okay, can I guess?
I mean not just his looks, but also his personality
is probably not typically what you normally date.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
No, not really, Like we met on hinge and he
seems normal, like a nice sky he's sort of cute
special Wait.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Stopped gagging during the description.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
After my friends they're like, I'll give a guy a chance,
I'll try something different, and then he stops talking to her,
and it's like, what's wrong in the world?
Speaker 5 (02:11):
You know?
Speaker 6 (02:12):
Is off?
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Like how she said he seemed normal and he's obviously
abnormal because he's not going out.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
But even though he seemed normal and nice and totally
out of the ordinary, you still went out with him?
I did.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
I mean, yes, I was kind of bored, so I
was like why not?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yeah, but personality can add the looks once you meet someone.
So how was it when you first met him? Like,
what was that moment?
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Like, well, he invited me to a bar for happy
hour and it was kind of early for a date.
That was like five Well.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
That's happy hour, yeah okay, okay, yeah, the late night crowds.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
So all right, So what happened?
Speaker 4 (02:50):
The conversation went, Well, he was more confident than I
thought he would be. He was dressed very well.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
When you can, I just ask like, is so like
you're saying he's more confident because you still think he's
not very attractive. Correct, Okay, I want to know when
you very first saw him, what was your reaction.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
I think it was like, I'm doing this guy a favor.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Okay, You're like, he's not trying yet, but he will
be when I'm done.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
I'm just being honest.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Okay, you guys asked me the question.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
All right. Sometimes I do see couples and I'm like, Wow,
she's gorgeous. How did he pull her? Now I'm wondering
do girls do this and in their head it's like.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
A charity case.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Well, you have to understand, she's the one that's calling
us right now.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
She's the one chasing him.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah, okay, although there's a reason we didn't answer your
first question, Jose, But that's okay, So tell us more
what happens during this happy hour drink state.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Conversation went well, and then he started asking me about
what type of food I like, and I was like,
he's going to try to roll this into grabbing dinner
with me.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Oh okay.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
She's like, oh god, this guy's gonna try and feed
me too. Is that is that kind of where you're
you're normally at, Lucy.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
I mean making it sound like it's out of the ordinary,
but that's not where my head was at the time.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Okay, So you're excited to continue the day with him?
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Excited might be a strong word, like medium excited, all right, okay.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Willing to go along with it a little longer, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Okay, But here's the weird thing. I tell him what
kind of food I'm interested in, like Italian Jebanese, and
his response cool, Well, anyway, this has been chill, but
I gotta go meet up.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
What immediately do.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
You that's not even a good review of the date,
Like this has been chill?
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Why would you even ask what I'd like to eat?
And I just said meet up with who? And he
was like, oh, just a friend, I'll catch you later. Though, Oh,
did this guy.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Maybe a huge player?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
This feels like the perfect So I think that he
just maybe saw through that you weren't attracted to him
and you were interested in surface things.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Did you miss that I am way better looking? Like
he never should have had a chance.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Some people aren't looking for just look you gave off
like I'm better than you vibes.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
But he did say i'll catch you later, So there's
some hope for a second meet up there. Did he ever?
What was that the end of all conversation?
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Well, I texted him a little later and said, hey,
I had a really great time. It was coleeting you,
and he just hurted it.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
What he could have just thumbs up it and that
would have been I.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Can't wait to talk to this guy. I don't feel like, like,
why do you want to go out with him again?
It's just like a game. I don't why are we
calling him?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Yeah, what made you reach out to us for help?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Well, we have to hear his side.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I'm too curious, Like, who did he have to meet
that was more important than me at that moment?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
So I don't think you're gonna like anything, he says.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Maybe his like family member was in the hospital and
he had to go visit her or him at that point.
Would that change your mind?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
You don't say meet up with someone if you're going
to the Hospit Oh, pretty much.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Dead right now. Meet up.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
She decided the moment she saw him that she was
not going to go out with him again. It's just
that he is calling her, driving her.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
There is a little bit of a power dynamic going on,
and I am excited to hopefully get him on the phone.
We'll see what he has to say if he answers
in your second date update. Right after this hold second
date update, let's recap what we know about our listener
Lucy and her date with Nate the other day.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
It's a rough one, Jeff Well.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Number one, according to her, she is way hotter than him.
Number two, he was lucky to be going out with
someone as hot as she was. And number three, his
personality was fine, but not as fine as her hotness.
And despite all of that, uh huh, Nate was the
one who cut their date short after just one drink.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
So weird. It seems like she's so deep.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
It is that he was confident.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, why would he be confident?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
I'm not sure, but it's all very unusual for Lucy. Clearly,
it's got her a little bit flustered, very confused, which
is the reason why she wants us to give him
a call and get some answers. Right, Lucy, you guys
make me.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Sound like I'm so shallow. I'm not.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Okay, you know what.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I think that just the conversation we had made that happen.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
But yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I am just trying to paint a picture for you here.
I think it's very important to note that I am,
in fact hotter than him.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Okay, fact like a brat. We're not that. We were
all agree I want photos. Well, don't you get under
We're all taking your word for it. But I think
what what what would really help us is if you
could think of one nice thing to say about him
that we could bring up once we get him on
(08:16):
the phone, something that you liked about.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Him, that's he really did hold down a conversation.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Well okay, and you actually sounds sincere about that, which
I appreciate.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Okay, when I say he did that, he barely did it.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
But he did it, okay, But I'm just gonna make
a note he knows how to have a conversation so
that I can compliment him sort.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Of just end it there.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I'm just going to bring it up to him just
so we could say something nice and that usually helps
people open up a little.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Sounds like a confident, great guy.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Okay, So let's hope he holds a conversation. We're going
to talk to him on the radio if he answers. First,
we got to get him on the phone. Let me
dial in. We'll see if he picks up, and then
we can move from there. Here we go. Hello, Hey,
is this Nate?
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Uh yeah, cute voice, Brook coming.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Can you give him some compliments? Okay?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
All right, this is We're a radio show. We're called
Brook and Jeffrey.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
In the Morning.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Good morning.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Uh yeah, I'm a little busy right now. And what's
going on?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, so we won't take up too much of your time.
What we're doing is a segment it's called a second
Date Update, where we're trying to help one of our
listeners get back in touch with you after you two
went out on a hot date the other night.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
A short date.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
I think he ended it pretty short.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Who are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (09:45):
It's a woman named Lucy.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Lucy Yeah, okay, super serious, laughing. It totally checks out.
It totally checks out that she would be.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
The one calling out What does that mean?
Speaker 6 (10:00):
Yeah, she's texted me like four times in the last
couple of days, like I barely sponsor her.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
So that's okay. So clearly you you know what you're
doing here. This is all on purpose.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
It's a power play.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
It sounds like, well, it's just she's that type of girl,
Like there's a type.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
What does that mean? Explain the type.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
Though, Like she's very attractive, but she's been told all
her life since she's attractive, so she knows it.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
And then she's like, no, I'm better, and I'm like no,
I can't relax.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
So do you do you not like her?
Speaker 6 (10:27):
Then?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Like is that negative or positive? I can't tell.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
No, She's fine, Like it's just a matter of Like
there's two things you got to deal with with women,
like Lucy, keep the date really short.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Right, that's the thing. You got to keep the date
really short. Like I knew that if I kept the date.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Going longer, longer, I had the suspicion that she was like,
oh good, a free.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Meal out of me, and I'm not. That's not what
I'm about.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Okay. So this is like a rule of strategy that
you've come up with for dating beautiful women.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
It's not just beautiful women, it's beautiful women who know
that they're beautiful and think that they're better than you
because they're people.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Okay, waiting jem specific type of girls. Most women in
my case, I don't get it though, Like you want
to keep the date short because you want to keep
her attracted to you, or you want to keep the
date short because you don't ever want to see her again.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
No, it's definitely because I want to keep her interested.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
And you're the woman I gluecy.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
The longer the date goes, the less interested she becomes
because she knows all about you.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
So you mentioned earlier there's two things that you always do.
You keep the date short. Was one short.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
You don't give them any information. You just hey, I
gotta go talk to you later.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
So when you said you were going to meet up
with a friend, that was a lie.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
That wasn'tna lie. That was we were at the gym.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
I want to want to go to the gym to
meet her friend at the gym.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
But I'm not going to give her specifics.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
I'm not gonna where and when and with who because
I know that the moment I say that, all the
mystery is gone.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Wow wow, oh my god. Yeah, who's used to dating girls?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Okay, so she found she found someone who.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Is so clearly you seem to have some sort of
strategy with her, well, a very a very clear plan.
When do you plan to actually meet up with her again? Like?
How do you make that happen?
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Well, when I reach out to her, I'll say like, hey,
do you want to get a COVID drinks?
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Or do you want to get some dinner tonight? And
it's always got to be like last.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Minute, Okay, throw her a boat.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
I've been dodging her and I've been keeping it vague
for so long that now she's going to be like,
oh I got.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
It track with the irons hot that that's all right?
Speaker 6 (12:34):
This plan.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yeah, you're breaking Brooks spirit. The more that you talk
about it, it's just like.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Proud of him.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, I think she's proud of himself with this energy.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Or go out with someone who thinks they're better than you?
Speaker 6 (12:47):
Like, yeah, I definitely wouldn't do this with everybody. I
don't do this whole like every woman is the same thing.
I just know the type of woman and when I
ask her, Hey, what do you like to eat? And
she's like hinting, like the most expensive restaurants.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Come on, dude, Yeah, you know how these women are.
They try and like manipulate you. They try and like
tell you how to live the relationship. And then and
then they wait on the other line of this phone call,
listening in on this radio show this entire time to
everything that you said.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Right, Well, what are you talking about? What did that mean?
Speaker 6 (13:22):
Well?
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I thought I thought you would have known by now.
Lucy's on the other line listening to this. What. Yeah,
that's how this works, Lucy, are you there?
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Hi?
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Nathan?
Speaker 1 (13:34):
He was Nate before full name.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
You seriously thought like you were gonna hit my confidence.
Bab you can't bread crumb me, okay, I own the bakery.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
Oh oh god, Lucy, Lucy, you can't say all of
this after you've called.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
The radio station to get folded. You're not much. You're in.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
I'm a curious about why you were being an asshole,
And now I know because you like games.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
What I just I'm better at the game than you.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Are to pick up artist. Okay, you think negging women
is the way to go, you are an a.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
No, that's not at all. That's not true at all.
I think negging you is the right way, Honey.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
It doesn't work that way, It doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Just did.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
You literally called the radio station to get hold of me?
Speaker 5 (14:39):
How you say that?
Speaker 4 (14:40):
No one like, no one treat me like that?
Speaker 5 (14:44):
You know that nobody does.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Defense a lot? She did say. Remember, even if he
likes me, I don't want.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
To go out with him again.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
I Mean, here's the thing, Lucy, Like, it's not that
you're beautiful, it's that you're I am. Yeah, she's gorgeous.
The reason he's playing the game is because you go
around acting.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Like you're better than everybody else.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
And that is fact. Are facts? I am better looking
than him?
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Okay, Well.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
This, Lucy, Yeah, she absolutely is better looking than me.
But I have a wrap around my little finger.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
I've got your finger right here. Okay, and you get one.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Well, let's save that for the bedroom, guys, because this
is getting a little bit spicy. What I think I
I'm trying to just read between the lines of that conversation,
and what Lucy was trying to say is she's willing
to give you one more chance to do the date
the right way.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Wait, I think she's talking right now.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Well, Lucy, this is going to be my time because
we're running. We're running short here because I have to
ask Nate, would you be willing to go out with
Lucy one more time?
Speaker 4 (15:56):
You ask me? You don't need to ask him. I
reject him.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
You judge whoa is?
Speaker 3 (16:01):
That? Was that your last power move?
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Okay, I'm not even gonna say yes or no. That's
the beautiful I'm just gonna leave it vague and I'll
just wait for her text later.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
He's so good. Oh my god, I Alexis wants to
tell you.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
All right, it's a game of chicken.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
We need to see you.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I'll text you, gonna text to first, Nathan.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
It's gonna be her.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Jeffrey in the morning. Is it just me or was
that guy like the hot girl whisperer? He just knows
exactly what to say any hot girl to have them
eating out of his hands.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I don't think it's that hard when they're not that deep.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Jeff But that that in itself is like a crazy
difficult thing for a guy to do.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
But why would you want to That's my whole point.
There's plenty of hot girls to have substance, Like, why
would you want one without it?
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Show me one, jef.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Right here, she's a hot girl with substance. That's nice
of you, that's true, silent, but I'm.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Glad you think so. I mean, this whole strategy really
was just like basically, don't say anything right for guy. Yeah, yeah,
just stay vague, don't tell them, which is interesting and
this is why I'll never get dates because I.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Can't shut up.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
So if we want hot girls to listen to our podcasts,
I guess we should just be vague about it. Yeah. So, uh,
any hot girls it's online somewhere, comedians, Yeah, go find it.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
We got a boun never going to date someone higher.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah, but think about the hot girls are going to
listen to our podcasts.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I'm sure yeah, they can't resist you.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
By the way, the official one is Brook and Jeffrey's
Second Date Update. There's a lot of fakes and knockoffs right.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Now, so don't I mean, seriously than you.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Brook and Jeffery Second Date Update. Find it online, wherever
you get your podcast
Speaker 2 (17:54):
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