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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Second date update. Is it okay to bring a gift
on a first date? It's Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.
Take as long as it's yes, small, thoughtful, and I'm
a low pressure, like a little quirky key chain with
their name on it, then why not like a small dog?

(00:24):
Well that's a lot of pressure, Okay, all right. You
want to avoid something that's too expensive, nothing too over
the top romantic, because the goal is to just be sweet,
not serious.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
If you can link it to some inside joke you
already have, it's even better.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
You have to absolutely and our listener Allison mentioned a
gift was involved in her first date recently. I don't
know the parameters of it or what exactly happens, so
let's talk to her about it. Allison, Hey, thanks for
joining us.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Hi, thanks for having me.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
What did you get us as a gift?

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:00):
I'm just saying I thought that she was into gift giving.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
So well, before we get to the gift, let's start
with who's the guy we're calling and how did you
meet him?

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Well? His name is Corey, and I met him on
a dating app.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Okay, okay, I'm so curious if you were the gift
giver or receiver in this situation.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
I was actually the receiver.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Oh okay, it's weird that he would give a gift
and be that excited about a date and then not
be calling.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
You back to another one.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yeah, that's the thing. So it was kind of my idea.

Speaker 5 (01:31):
I told him that he should bring a little gift
to make a first impression.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Oh oh, oh, you asked for it.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
Okay, that really changes. Yeah, said about calling while you're
on the phone.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
It's good to have a woman who knows what she wants.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
How did he receive that? Did he laugh? At first?
I would think that someone was joking.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah, it was a little bit of a joke.

Speaker 5 (01:54):
But also, on the other hand, it's also like, well,
why shouldn't guys come with a little.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Offering, you know, nothing bighing too crazy?

Speaker 2 (02:01):
I think you're right, but naturally, like the guy should
already show up with something tiny.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
Not guys, what did you want him to bring you?

Speaker 3 (02:12):
That's the thing. It's up to him. I think it'd
be cute to kind of figure out, like, what is
he going to bring to impressed? But I also told
him nothing too serious.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Okay, so this is more fun. You're not going in
with big expectations. You're just trying to see how his
brain works and what type of item he's going to
get for you. Yeah, okay, So what did he end
up bringing for you?

Speaker 5 (02:34):
A cinnamon roll scented candle.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
And nothing says romance like cinnabon, like grandma, but it's.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
Safe, right Yeah? Yeah, he doesn't love the smell of cinnamon.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
What was your reaction to that?

Speaker 3 (02:51):
I got it funny.

Speaker 5 (02:52):
I mean, throughout the entire date, I started calling him
the se big fragrance energy.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
Okay, there you go.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Okay, an inside joke.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Honestly, it's pretty smart of the guy too, because now
anytime you smell cinnamon rolls, you're going to think of him.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
I did ask him, like why he chose the cinnamon
rolls sense, and he was like, oh, I imagined.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
You smelling like this, which I thought was kind of cute.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Interesting.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
Do you work at a mall?

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Is that maybe why that?

Speaker 6 (03:30):
No?

Speaker 3 (03:30):
I don't I don't know why hended it.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
I think he probably couldn't come up with another reason,
and he was just blurting out, whatever it is one
of the checkout aisle.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Basically, okay, take us through the rest of the day.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
I mean, we weren't only talking about candles, but he
let me text him a candle recommendation list because I
got into candles a couple of years ago.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
Wait, could he have been insulted by that?

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Like maybe, like the implication is, here's a bunch of
other candles you should buy for me. There the flavor
that you chose because you're wrong.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
I mean, I think I would have been insulted if
I gifted a candle and then I got set back
better than anything.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
You give someone a ring and they're like, here's better rings.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah. I didn't think it offended him when it was
like happening when I said it to him, because we
were laughing and stuff.

Speaker 5 (04:16):
Okay, But then at the end of the day, I
was open for a kiss because it was going so well.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yeah, but he just gave me a hug, and then
I was like, Okay.

Speaker 5 (04:26):
Well, maybe he's still being a gentleman or something, because
I thought he was going to ask me in the
next forty eight hours to go out on the next date,
but he didn't.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Like, maybe he actually was offended.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Like you guys are saying, did you tell him that
he had to bring a present on the next date
at any point.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
No, no, no, no, no no no. It was kind
of like a one time thing.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Yeah, but with the list that you send in his mind,
it might be implied that he's expected to show up.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Oh my gosh, what if he's saving up for a
candle or that's all and he's like, I just need
twelve dollars.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
More than twelve bucks.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Really, Oh yeah, he's right guying multiple candles on your lips.
It could be a big problem. So see, you overwhelmed
him with wax. You expected a date within forty eight hours.
That hasn't happened. How long has it been?

Speaker 6 (05:11):
Maybe a week?

Speaker 4 (05:12):
Okay, okay? And you ever heard anything?

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Nothing?

Speaker 5 (05:16):
And you know, I'm gonna just point because I really
do like him and he's really freaking cute and I
really thought we had something.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
And it's easy for you to reach out to and
be like, oh my god, look at my cute candle.
Here's a picture of it in my house, like that
one you can't keep?

Speaker 3 (05:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Yeah, every time you used the candle, I had to
blow it out for ten minutes.

Speaker 6 (05:34):
But I'm back. Here's another picture.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
Don't blow a candle out that soon. My husband did
you do that properly?

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Can have you texted him a picture using the candle?

Speaker 3 (05:43):
I did? I did?

Speaker 5 (05:44):
I mean the first time, it makes sense, but then
that was like awkwardly the last thing that was tected.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
It would be kind of funny if you took your
candle with you everywhere you wait and set them updates,
like here's.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
The candle on the bus. There's a candle. No, don't
do that. Get the kid them together.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
No, okay, let's not laugh. This was a very very
cute gift, and now we're minimalizing it. I feel like
there is a really sincere reason that he's.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
Not calling you serious. Okay, I.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Making jokes of true romance. So let's try and do
this the right way. When we come back, we'll call
Corey and get you your second date update right after this.

Speaker 6 (06:24):
Okay, thank you, hold on second date update.

Speaker 7 (06:30):
Imagine sticky sweet sugar melting into ribbons of cinnamon spice,
with the aroma of buttery dough rising into the air
like temptation itself.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Oh wow, I think I'm pregnant.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
Did you just make that sexy somehow?

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (06:46):
This sound doesn't just smell good, it seduces the room.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
What I just described was a gift our listener Allison
received on her first date, a cinnamon rolls candle from Corey.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
Most people think of Grandma's, but not Jeff.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yea where my mind goes. But afterwards, Corey has disappeared,
just like a box of cinnabon left in our breakroom.
The one thing Alison things she may have done wrong
is send him a list of other candle sense that
she likes, which even Brooke agreed is a little bit presumptuous, right, Brooke,
I could see.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
It being red wrong.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
I don't think that that was her intention. But you know,
I have a husband who loves candles, and he has
a long list of his favorite sense. How to care
for the candle, how to cut the wick.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
There is a lot of rules.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
My rule about candles is whatever you do, don't eat it. Yeah,
and it's a tough one. I have to remind myself
every time. I know, Allison, you didn't do that, right,
you didn't bite into your seamon roal candle?

Speaker 6 (07:52):
No?

Speaker 1 (07:53):
No, no, no, no, okay, good, all right, we can rule.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
We need to ask our listeners.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
I mean, that's true. You never know what happens on
these second date updates. People end up doing weird stuff
we never thought of all the time. So let's call
Corey and find out if he's a candle fiend, just
like Brooks husband. Yeah, here we go the dial his
number right now. Hello, Hey, we're looking at to speak

(08:25):
with Corey.

Speaker 6 (08:27):
Speaking.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Hey, this is a radio show.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
Yeah, what's up Corey?

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Super cool radio show obviously based on what you've just heard. No, Brook,
super true. But we're called Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning.

Speaker 6 (08:44):
I'm just so good for you people.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, a lot of people.

Speaker 6 (08:47):
I help you. What's going on?

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Well, this is a segment that we do. It's called
second Date Update. We're trying to help out one of
our listeners who's asked us to reach out to you,
a woman you went out with recently named Alison.

Speaker 6 (09:00):
Okay, yeah, okay, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
First impressions about Alison, she's.

Speaker 6 (09:09):
An interesting girl. She's definitely a quirky person.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Okay, interesting, quirky are good things, right.

Speaker 6 (09:16):
Not always?

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Okay. We we know that something must be up because
you have not reached out to Alison trying to arrange
a second date, and she just is a little confused
about why it hasn't happened.

Speaker 6 (09:31):
Yeah, I think she's just a little odd.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Allison's odd.

Speaker 6 (09:38):
Yeah, she's a little odd. She had asked for me
to bring her a gift to our first date.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Yeah, I mean she told us about that, and actually
she said she really appreciated the gift that you got her.

Speaker 6 (09:50):
Yeah, oh she did.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
Yeah, yeah, thiss cinnamon rollcandle.

Speaker 6 (09:56):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yes, I mean, okay, is that the reason?

Speaker 6 (10:00):
Well no, so she I don't know if she told you,
but she actually in fact got me two gifts.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
Wait, she brought you something.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
She didn't mention that at all.

Speaker 6 (10:09):
Wow. To be honest, she kind of surprised me because
I thought I was really the only one who was
going to be bringing a gift.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
But I love that she set him up like here,
we give me a gift to test him, and then
she had a gift to you. Guys don't get gifts
very often. It seems like that would make you feel.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Special, right, Why are you framing it as a bad thing?

Speaker 6 (10:30):
Well, it wasn't so much like the idea of the gift.
That was the gifts that she brought that made me
feel the uneasy uneasy.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
Oh, I am so curious as to what she brought me, Like,
not the right stuffed animal.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Hopefully it's not her baby teeth that she's been saving.

Speaker 6 (10:47):
For the right.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
In it. What was the gift? So?

Speaker 6 (10:55):
The first one, it was a rock that she found
on the sidewalk that morning, a.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
Rock that could be kind of funny, like is it
shaped like a heart or something?

Speaker 6 (11:05):
You know, No, just a rock. And I just thought
weird taking it because she said it was her lucky
rock and she has given it to me, like it
hasn't mean to me.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yeah, but it's that she just found it, you know,
it's not like it was lucky for that day.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
Yeahket a rock.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
That she found this morning. What was gift number two?

Speaker 6 (11:28):
The second gift she handed me was like a homemade
coupon book. I don't know of those.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, Like this is good for one BackRub, this is
good for all do the dishes they're usually sexy things.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
Yeah, well they're usually things in relationships?

Speaker 5 (11:44):
Is that what it was?

Speaker 6 (11:45):
One coupon was for one good existential conversation. Another one
was about like a midnight call where we talk about aliens.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Oh, aliens specifically.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
You can't talk about those at lunchtime. It's only a conversation.

Speaker 6 (12:07):
The other one was one deep discussion about the meaning
of socks in society.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
If I do a bit of joke, I mean that
sounds funny.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah, well also kind of romantic. Do you know was
it a joke?

Speaker 6 (12:23):
I mean, she's a bit woo woo, so it seems like, oh,
probably on brand for her. I just kind of like,
kill the mood. O.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
The socks doesn't turn them on, Jeffy, it does you.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Well, I know how to bring the mood right back up,
and that's by letting you know that Allison is on
the other line right now, listening, waiting to talk to
you about alien conspiracy theories. So go ahead, Allison, what midnight?

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Hey Cory, Allison, what are you doing?

Speaker 5 (12:54):
I really thought the date went great, honestly, and I'm
a little shocked right now that you're finding that little
coupon book I made you weird. I think it's fun,
especially like the docks of society, like docts are underrated,
Like they say a lot about culture, personality, like way
more than people realize.

Speaker 6 (13:13):
Okay, it's just for a good bit for the first
time eating Allison.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
It's a little strange that you didn't bring it up
with us.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
I didn't you guys ever really asked.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
About the existential coupon book.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Well, I mean, I agree with all of the things
that you're saying, but putting it into a coupon book
on a first date, I think that's the part that's
a little odd. But that's why I thought it was
a joke though, Like, were you kidding? Were you being lighthearted.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Above the aliens?

Speaker 5 (13:41):
Yes, like we can have that call anytime, Oh okay,
everything else.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
So she just joking about the time frame when she
can have the alien discussion and not just midnight, anytime
of day.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
But you are down to chop it up about alien
It is funnier when you say aliens at midnight for
some reason.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Zone is okay? Corey? Does that clear it all up
for you?

Speaker 6 (14:02):
I mean it's pretty much what I thought.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
I mean, I don't know, you date somebody like her
and maybe your mind opens up to some new ideas
and some new experiences.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yes, I can. I can open your mind and all
that good stuff.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
Yeah, just going to David, she's robbing to Himalayan salt
rocks right now.

Speaker 6 (14:24):
My mind is pretty open. But I don't know just
a bit much.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
I mean, come on, what about big bragrant energy guy.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
Right b f E.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (14:38):
I mean if I'm not feeling it, I'm not feeling it.
I'm not sure like that's true.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
I mean, Allison, if this is how Corey feels, maybe
he's not the right guy for you. You need somebody
that matches your same vibe, your same energy that you're
looking for.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
She needs to find a right sock to her left sock.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Jeff romantic, but.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
I like him. And I mean, I didn't even tell you.
There's another coupon in there. That's one free awkward hug.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
Awkward one.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Oh, you guys get a hug and be like no, no, no,
that was way too good. We gotta make it weird day.
So you don't want to pass up that opportunity, because
we would pay for you two to go out on
another date. If you'll agree to it. Just give it
one chance. An awkward kid.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
Oh, it's so funny.

Speaker 6 (15:23):
I actually think your host should go on a date
with her because he seems really excited about a lot
of the things she's saying.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
Triple awkward hug.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Anybody else wanted circle. Even though this didn't end up
working out, there's not going to be a second date.
I do think something positive came out of this. We
were able to figure out that you're two different people
after two different things, and that's okay.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
Can I just say, like Corey, you can't use that
coupon book with anyone else.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
It only works with me.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Oh, she's gonna get jealous.

Speaker 6 (15:58):
I think that's a deal.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
Oh, I feel like he's already thrown out the book.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah, it's work Jeffrey in the morning. Honestly, I don't
know why she's being persecuted for being creative with her
cubon book.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
Oh, you're on your side out.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Most of the time, coupons are like one free back rub,
one day of me doing chores naked in the house,
and those are so old and played out. It's nice
to hear someone actually put some creativity and like, shake
it up a little bit.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
Dude, I want to do the sock one, Like when
when do we do the sock segment? Let her on
and just let her go.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
It would be fun. But of course, you know us men,
we don't like new ideas or creative shakeups to our
normal routine. We're simple creatures who like the same old
crap over and over and over forever. Till we're dead.

Speaker 6 (16:47):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Somehow someone's gonna say, Brook, why are you saying such
mean things about men?

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah, jeff that's me. I hate us and you can hate.
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