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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Second date of date.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
This happens every so often, but sometimes a listener will
do a second date update with us that doesn't end
with a yes.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Often, But the thing is.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
They're so impressed by us, specifically me and my efforts
to jumpstart their love lives, that they're willing to call
back and give it another go.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
You know, you don't have to.
Speaker 5 (00:25):
Do Mountain's mouth anymore with CPR, but.
Speaker 6 (00:27):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Yeah, that's why Justin has reached out to us once again.
He was on a few months back, and last time
the lady he went out with was not impressed cause
she showed up an hour late to dinner, but said
Justin wasn't man enough to be mad about it and
cancel what?
Speaker 6 (00:45):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
I think?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I remember that it was.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Really weird and that call definitely crashed and burned, but
we promised to try and do better for Justin this time.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
So Justin, welcome back.
Speaker 7 (00:55):
Hey, thank you guys for having me.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Oh man, how long did you wait for your date
to show up this time? Justin?
Speaker 7 (01:02):
No, she actually came right on time. That side he.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Test, and you failed it?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Sure you're to get up and leave and make her way?
Speaker 7 (01:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I think that shows improvement, And I heard that you've
been actually doing a little bit of research since the
last time you were on with us.
Speaker 7 (01:17):
Yeah, I feel like the learning process never really ends.
I'm always trying to better myself, you know.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
So deep.
Speaker 7 (01:22):
So Justice, I heard about this book called Attached. Have
you guys, are you familiar with it?
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Attached?
Speaker 7 (01:31):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Reading is not on the top of the list of
hobbies for this group, so but tell us about it.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
What is attached about?
Speaker 7 (01:39):
So this book basically talked about how most people come
into three different psychological categories while dating. Okay, secure, where
you can communicate openly and like I could be like, hey,
I know you're busy, but I just kind of get
nervous when you don't text back. Could you text me?
Just let me know, even if it's just like a
little thumbs up or something.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Oh, it's like the type of communicator you are, exactly.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
In the story groups, they're secure.
Speaker 7 (02:05):
Yeah. The other two categories are anxious and avoidant. Good
and anxious people are like the super needy ones where
it's just like, no, you gotta text me, and if
you don't hear a text back, you're texting them like
twenty times, like where are you? Where are you?
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Pose registered for you?
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Oh if I'm necessarily anxious in that sense, but in
real life I'm anxious a lot.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Yeah. And then what's the other one? Again?
Speaker 7 (02:28):
The last one is avoidant, where like if things start
getting real, they'll push apart a little bit, like they
want distance. They don't want to be smothered or anything.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Okay, can you be more than one? Like I feel
like i'm the first two combined.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
You have to read the book and find out.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Oh no, I'm just going to wait for the movie
to come out.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
Yeah, that was really like a fun movie, Jess.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, if they can, don't.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Make it really short because my attentions fan isn't great. Okay,
So which which one are you justin?
Speaker 7 (02:56):
So I'm secure with traits of anxious and so you
can be more than one?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Okay, So how did that change dating?
Speaker 7 (03:05):
I'm just really open and communicative about what I'm expecting,
how I feel. No more games of like like you know,
with the girl who was late, I could just be like,
hey you're late, that made me feel this way? What's
going on? You know, just talk about it?
Speaker 6 (03:18):
So we did we go on a dat or we
just hearing about how your love life has improved.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
For everybody in the or Justin wrote this book and
he's trying to sell exactly. Yeah, so how does all
this relate to your your new and improved dating life?
Speaker 7 (03:33):
So I put this on my dating profile where I
said secure attachment styles only, and it didn't really get
me any clicks. But then I put that smiley emoji
with like the sweat drop coming on the forehead, you know,
and that got me.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
So who matched with your secure people only demand?
Speaker 7 (03:55):
With this wonderful woman named Kelly. She's an interior designer,
absolutely very very secure, and I kind of wanted to
have her see what I did. I don't even know
if we spoke about this last time. I'm a professional rapper,
Like at least part time did not come up, because, like,
you know, unless you're super duper famous, people just presume
(04:18):
your craps.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
You invited CALLI to what watch You wrap somewhere?
Speaker 7 (04:26):
Yeah, to a show that I was doing, and we
hung out before we got to know each other, and
then it was time for me to go on stage.
And I had a couple of songs that night, so
I did those. The crowd was really into it. Like
I was a little nervous, you know, sometimes the crowd
might not be into it. But yeah, but when I
got off States, she said it was awesome, Like people
(04:47):
were coming up to me, just like taking photos and
things of that sort, which is always fun. But I
kind of worried, like maybe my lyrics were a little
bit too vulgar. But that's kind of also like the
nature of the beast of being an artist vulger.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
I mean, you're a rap artist unless you're Will Smith.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Rapper.
Speaker 7 (05:09):
Yeah, she did say it was awesome, but I remember,
like there's a point where I made eye contact with
her while I was wrapping, and I noticed her eyes
were kind of big where she was like I don't
know if she thought this, but my read was like
she's like, what the hell did he just say?
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Can you give a subject material? Like I get to
know anything?
Speaker 7 (05:28):
Some of it gets political, some of it is just,
you know, like.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Democrats secure up in the building.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Well, okay, got your openers for you the next show.
Speaker 7 (05:45):
I wanted to stay a little longer and hang out more,
but like while the people were taking photos, she was
just like, I gotta go. It was so great being you.
And then yeah, I had a tough time getting another date,
and I really really did like her, you know, way
more than the girl all who made me wait an hour.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Yeah, by this time you kind of made her wait. Yeah,
same thing.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Well, we'll see what Calli has to say, because we're
gonna drop some beats right here just for you, and
then we're gonna come back and get your second date
update right after this.
Speaker 7 (06:12):
All right, sounds great, All right, hold on, man.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Date.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
He's smart, he's sexy, and he's totally secure. I'm talking
about our listener, Justin, who's back doing a second date
update for the second time on our show because we
failed him the first go round. Yeah, but this time
Justin went out with a woman named Calli, who he
(06:38):
described as also secure and right.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
That's their attachment or whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
It's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, and she got to see him in his elements,
spitting mad bars at a rap show.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Weird part was while.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
He was taking photos with fans after his performance, Calli
suddenly ducked out, said.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
She had to go.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah, and we don't know why. I'm sure Brooke has
some theories for why.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Maybe she just was sick of me. I mean it's
a long time to go to a rap show and
then to sit and all the fans coming out.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
Yeah, your date like being on stage and not with you.
You say you're by yourself and then you're by yourself.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
More literally like as a comedy and greed and your
date is just watching. Yeah, boring.
Speaker 7 (07:26):
I didn't get that at all. I mean, I didn't
want to be rude to the people who come up.
You know, I'm not like a Kanye West or anything.
They came to the show, I'm gonna take a second
to say hello back.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
No, we're not saying that that's bad.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
It's just that, like on a first date, that may be.
You know, it kind of just sucks from her perspective,
you know.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
But everyone else gets time with you with her.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Real stars don't take photos with their fans because they're
past that. And maybe it came across as kind of needy.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
That you need your fans to seem cool. He said
he was secure, but maybe this whole time, maybe, Yeah,
what's the other ones anxious?
Speaker 7 (08:03):
I have? Tracea's anxiousness. I said that it is maybe.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
The anxiousness turned her off. But we're going to call
her and find out. Let's style. Callie's number and see
what she has to say.
Speaker 7 (08:12):
All right, here we go. Hello, Hey, is this Cali?
Speaker 3 (08:26):
This is her secure account?
Speaker 8 (08:28):
No, excuse me, my.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Name is Jeff. I heard that you were secure. Sorry,
my name is Jeff from the radio show Brooke and
Jeffrey in the Morning.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
There it is, all right?
Speaker 8 (08:40):
Which radio show?
Speaker 3 (08:42):
I don't don't about it.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
We have a podcast too, Maybe you listen to that.
Speaker 8 (08:48):
I don't think i've heard of you guys. What's just about?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Well, we do a segment on this show called Second
Date Update, and we're trying to help one of our
listeners get a hold of you because you went out
with him the other night and now you're avoiding him.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
His name is Justin. Oh, well, you guys went to
a rap show.
Speaker 8 (09:06):
Yeah, I remember him. How much do you guys know?
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Well, we know that he is an up and coming
rap star and he took you to his show.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
But he said you left while you were doing a
meet and greet.
Speaker 8 (09:18):
Yeah I did so. I didn't really enjoy him very much.
Oh No, the show is fine. He's actually a really
talented rapper. Like I didn't mind the show at all.
I thought he's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
You liked him on stage, but you didn't like him.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
He's on stage persona.
Speaker 8 (09:41):
Yeah, he lost me, I mean before the rap, like
you were talking about before the show. Oh he guy
just kept going on about the book, the attachment theory book.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Was it too much for you?
Speaker 8 (09:55):
He just wouldn't let it go, Like and on a
first date, the first time I'm ever talking to him,
he's like psychoanalyzing me and like we're trying to figure
it out for our personalities match. And I'm like, I
couldn't find out if I click with you th for
just having a conversation about what we like to do. Like,
I mean, it's cool to click with someone and their values,
but you don't normally figure that out on date one
(10:16):
and like just based on this one theory, Like it
was boring to just talk about that and only that.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
It's like people who won't date like other horoscope science.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
Yeah yeah, and you didn't feel like, I mean you
were interested. You knew from the beginning that you weren't
going to give him another shot.
Speaker 8 (10:35):
Well I knew after about thirty minutes of him talking
about this over and over that I was.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Bored thirty Oh oh, he went on for thirty minutes
of that attachment theory.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
We talked to him for like five minutes about it,
and it felt like a lot.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
I know, thirty minutes of that conversation.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I mean, at least he's passionate about it. Passion is
a good quality to have about things.
Speaker 8 (10:58):
But he wouldn't let it go. And it was like
a tedious breakdown of the book, like all the categories
who they match with, and you know, deciding that Okay,
I'm secure and he's secure. I was like, okay, but
only one of us is boring.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yeah, that really hurts.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
It got to hurt to hear. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Maybe Justin's secure enough to take it in stride, because
cal I need to tell you he's on the other
line listening right now and wants to talk to you.
Speaker 8 (11:29):
You had him on the whole time, Yeah he did.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Justin, Hey, Kelly, hearing how secure he sounds, you could.
Speaker 8 (11:44):
I didn't want to be mean to you. I just
you need to know that this strategy doesn't work, Like
women aren't into that.
Speaker 7 (11:52):
It's not a strategy. I just really like the book
I read, and I thought you were enjoying the conversation,
like the vibe that I was getting. You know, I'm
sorry I misread the situation. I didn't know. Maybe it
was because I was pre show Jitters or something and
I missed the signs.
Speaker 8 (12:06):
But I don't think you were reading that situation right
at all. And it's just not a good strategy, Like
it's date one. We're supposed to just talk about, you know,
all the trivial things likes and dislikes with pizza toppings
you eat when Netflix shows you're currently binge watching.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Like he's talking about his favorite book. You know, it's
not fifty Shades of Gray, but at least it's like adjacent.
Speaker 7 (12:30):
I'm sorry, I'm not basic. I don't want to go
much and talk about like pizza toppings, Like do you
know how many girls I go out with? Like I'm
trying to find somebody who's special.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Hey, some people can talk about pizza toppings for very
very much. That just came off a little hot.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Yeah, came off confident.
Speaker 7 (12:49):
I think the first nats get so repetitive. I thought
we connected on something deeper, you know, but it sounds like.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
You were listening to her. It sounds like you were
just like monologuing about a book that you read.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
I thought she was into it, and I apologized. I
didn't mean to be boring. I gotta be work for you,
and it's not boring. Wow, I'm a dope rapper. I'm
one of the best to ever do it.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Okay, okay's happening.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
I remember you're taking pictures of fans, and that's Jeffrey proved.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
You don't see Kanye taking a picture of anybody.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Let's just pretend that you didn't hear him call you
the other bee work.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Can you see how it was maybe a little bit
your fault because you were encouraging him. He says that
she seemed interested.
Speaker 8 (13:35):
Yeah, that can definitely not be blamed on me, just
because I didn't step in and say, hey, stop talking
about this, now, you're boring me, like that would have
been That would have.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Been very helpful clue to him that he needs to
change the.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
Subject, and he was really secure.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Would have been fine with him.
Speaker 8 (13:50):
He's not the best at reading people, because it was
very clear that I was bored. And you know, when
you say to somebody like, oh cool, like four times
in a row. Yeah, luckily you're not really there.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Luckily, I'm very good at reading people and reading situations
and sensing a vibe right here.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
I am.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
I'm feeling the love connection happening, and that's why I'd
like to offer to send Cali out on another date
with Justin.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
We'll pay for it.
Speaker 7 (14:17):
I'm going to stop you right there. I thought this
girl was secure. I'm getting so much avoidant and anxious
vibes from her. I don't think I'm ready for a
second to you.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I'm still sensing some vibes going on.
Speaker 8 (14:31):
I don't want to just I not only there's something
we agree on.
Speaker 7 (14:35):
Ok yeah, I not only misread that conversation, I misread
her entire profile and who she was as a human being.
So yeah, hard Pass.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
So I'm getting a sense this is more of just
a hook up one night thing. Oh okay, she's not
going to stay the night. She's just going to be
in and out before the sun even comes up.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Hard Pass the name of his album.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
That's a good album.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I'm just trying really hard because I don't want to
go oh for two with Justin here.
Speaker 7 (15:08):
Listen, you, guys, this is not your fault. I mean,
I love you, guys, I love the show. I love
that you like are taking the time to help me you're,
oh for one, batting five hundred.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
It's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Hey, I don't think I'm calling it fifty to fifty.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
We have definitely never gotten on basis it's.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
In victory in my book. Congratulations Justin. He just got
hit by a pitch.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Jeffrey in the morning,