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February 18, 2025 16 mins

One of our listeners had a GREAT first encounter with his date, but it was his FIRST TEXT after it ended that wrecked things… Hear what he sent coming up in your Second Date Update!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Second date up dated. I saw something on Instagram recently
that basically sums up what I think a lot of
our listeners are feeling with the online dating apps. It
was a guy who says, I think my favorite part
of online dating is when you match with someone and
you're talking and it's going great, and three weeks later,

(00:21):
someone somewhere loses interest and you just never talk to
them again, and you just keep doing that over and
over and over until you're ninety and you're single and
you die alone.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
It's so true. Wow, what a romantic look, Brooke.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Aren't you upset that you got married and missed the
peak era of dating apps?

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Why did I do that?

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Well, we have a guy on the phone who says
he also has become pretty frustrated with the online dating experience.
His name is Steven. So Steven, welcome to the show man.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
How you doing yo?

Speaker 2 (00:51):
You sound down?

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (00:54):
I am pretty down.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Yeah, buddy probably just closed his Tinder wrap right now
before he got on, So it's not going so well
for you.

Speaker 4 (01:01):
Huh No, I mean I just can't beat anybody. Honestly,
I was so tired. I did something pretty desperate recently.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
That's kind of why I called, oh, oh you did
something desperate Desperate.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
Wife's on ad online it said soul made psychic.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Oh that's a good catchy phrase. Yeah, what does that mean?

Speaker 4 (01:22):
For fifty dollars? The person was able to draw your
soul date.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
For you draw.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
A sketch of them. That's actually great because then you
can see, like when you see them in real life.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Then you know, why do I feel like they stock
your social media and then draw your ass?

Speaker 1 (01:40):
But you're right, if you see them out in the world,
you could just hold up this photo and be like,
we're sol made. You don't bring a photo around with you,
you just know in your head.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Okay, wait, wait, wait, you all believe that someone can
do this, well if.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
It's a psychic, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:55):
Yeah, okay, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Going to go with sure.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Brook already doesn't believe in your soulmate before she even
knows anything about it.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
It doesn't sound like either.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Well, well, we don't even know what the story is.
So you actually signed up and did this.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
I did this. Twenty minutes later, I get to sketch
email to me.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Oh, it's just even over it's online.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
No, no, it was a phone conversation.

Speaker 5 (02:17):
Oh, okay, took to her, and then she draws What
kind of questions did she ask you?

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Well, she's asking me my interest, she's asking me you.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Know, but she's not asking for a physical description of
your perfect woman. She's trying to get to know you.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Yeah exactly, okay, you about you.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
But then she's drawing the lady of yours? So what
did you think of the picture?

Speaker 3 (02:39):
So she's very pretty, that's good.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Shocking, she didn't draw an ugly person, so weird.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Well, that's very lucky for him. I'm sure she draws
a lot of ugly people for other people. But what
did you do with the photo?

Speaker 3 (02:54):
I put her up a refrigerator.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Oh okay, okay, I didn't know what to do with
it away online.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
I mean, you can put it on your dating app
and say this is what I'm looking for.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, now you're thinking brook, okay, you fill in the
for me. Well, did anything come of it?

Speaker 4 (03:13):
So like a month later, I'm at this wedding and
I see a woman and it's like a shoe, exactly
like the picture.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
No way?

Speaker 4 (03:22):
Really?

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Yeah, yeah, what did you do?

Speaker 4 (03:25):
Well?

Speaker 3 (03:25):
First they try not to freak out. I'm like, oh
my god.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah, well now you must feel the pressure on you.
So what do you do?

Speaker 3 (03:31):
So I build up enough confidence and I go over
there and I ask her dance.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Oh, why aren't you awing yet? This is happening. Yes, yes,
And what did she say when you asked her to dance?

Speaker 3 (03:46):
She said, yes, that we're dancing.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Oh my god, it's happening. So now you've opened the
door for true love to step through. But the big
question is did you tell her about the soulmate photo
that was sent to you?

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Well, I I told her I have a surprise for you.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Oh no, you're going to sell her. What do you
mean you told her that?

Speaker 3 (04:07):
I just couldn't hold it in. It's too weird, it's
too coincidental.

Speaker 5 (04:10):
Wait, so that night, we're still at the wedding reception
and you're going to pull out the picture on your phone.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
No, I know, I didn't even have a copy of it.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
Honestly, I'll text it to you.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
I told her I'll text it.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
What was your reaction though?

Speaker 3 (04:23):
Did she lack?

Speaker 1 (04:24):
I want to know what the caption was when you
texted the phone.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
The caption was, isn't this crazy? This looks just like you?

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Okay, oh my god?

Speaker 2 (04:33):
How long does it take her to respond to yours?
Is it about my first reaction? Is I have a stalker?

Speaker 4 (04:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Or are you still waiting for a reply? Oh?

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah, she responded, She's like, wow, that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
Okay, But then it was kind of a different vibe
from then on. She like I could tell something changed
now and she wasn't as into me.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Oh no, maybe you have android because that happens, and
you sent it and got blurry.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
I don't know, I don't think that was it.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, okay, So looking back on the events that unfolded,
do you feel like maybe you shouldn't have sent her
the picture?

Speaker 4 (05:10):
Maybe?

Speaker 5 (05:10):
Yeah, he should have just brought her back to his
apartment so she could have seen it on the fringe.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
So at this point, where are you at now?

Speaker 3 (05:18):
I mean, what are you gonna do? She woke it
back to me. Really I had to move on from there.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah, you could don't do it.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
So did you call this a lady Gann and you
have a new picture drawn up?

Speaker 4 (05:29):
Or I'm like, I'm kind of just back on the apps.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
I'm like you, I'm thinking maybe I need to find
others wone older.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
But you found her? So wait, wait, wait, are we
going to call this girl?

Speaker 1 (05:39):
For you.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
I mean yeah, now because it has been a couple of.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Months, I need yeah, I mean you need closure, man.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
I know anyone would I need closure from.

Speaker 5 (05:49):
What he met his so many Brooke and she's ghosting
for threes okay, his life. I feel like we're trying
to force something here, but I'll be on board.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
She'll give m answer.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Did we ever get the girl's name? By the way, her.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Name is Zoe?

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Okaye. Well, we're gonna come back and call your soulmate
Zoe and try and get you your second date update
right after this second date update. You believe in love
at first sight? Yes, Jeff? What about Okay? So yes?
From Jose and from the girls? What about love it

(06:27):
first sketch? No cause. Months ago, one of our listeners, Steven,
paid a professional psychic to draw him a photo of
his future soulmate before he's ever met her. He hung
it up on his fridge, and wouldn't you know, just
a short while later, he ends up meeting a woman
who looks just like that photo when he was at

(06:48):
a wedding. Her name was Zoe, and they danced and
got to know each other. Everything was on the up
and up until he got home and texted her the
soulmate's sketch picture. Yeah, cooled off after that. It got
me thinking though, like, how could we help him when
we get her on the phone, and maybe we could
say that he drew the picture after he met you,

(07:10):
just from memory. He's a really good artist that it's
not like a soulmate thing.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
I think he just apologizes and says I didn't that's.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Your answer to everything. Apologize for what he did.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
It's a good photo.

Speaker 5 (07:23):
It has to be flattering it, I mean, you can't lie,
Like how long is he going to keep up that
he's a good artist?

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, you know, it just came to him in a
moment of inspiration. That's the point. I'm not an artist.
It was the heavens that just guided my hand in that.
You exactly what. Sadly, though, Stephen is back on the
dating apps now, looking for older women and long distance stuff,
whatever he can get because he's so dejected. Let's not
say that, but we won't bring that up. I'm just

(07:51):
saying his mind is still wondering, though, what about my
soulmate Zoe? Isn't that right, Stephen? You've never forgotten about her?

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Well, I didn't forget. This wasn't that long ago.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, but so a couple of months she could be
in a relationship already. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Well, I'm glad that we're going in with the positive attitude.
So my promise I will keep trying. Nobody in this
room is going to believe in love except for me
and Jose, So we're gonna do our best. Let's call
Zoe and see what she has to do.

Speaker 5 (08:20):
The weight of love on your shoulders. It must be hard,
it's difficult.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Here we go. Hello, two rings, she answered. I knew it, Zoe.
Thank you for answering the phone right now. This is
Zoe right, Yes, okay, did you know that too? That

(08:46):
was luck on that one. But you're on the radio
right now with a show called Brook and Jeffrey in
the morning. Oh Zoe, how you doing?

Speaker 6 (08:57):
I mean, I'm okay, okay, Yeah? Why am I being
cold right now?

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Well? Some might say it's fate that brought us to
you today, but others would just say it's one of
our listeners named Stephen who asked us to call you.

Speaker 6 (09:13):
No, no, thank you? No?

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Wait, hold on, do you remember Stephen?

Speaker 6 (09:17):
No, I'm not no.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Uh wow, that's a picture. Really worked I guess.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Okay, well, so Zoe, we're doing a segment here called
a second Date Update where we're trying to help Steven
get in touch with you again because it's been a
while since you've chatted since the wedding.

Speaker 6 (09:36):
Yeah, no, there's a reason why we haven't chatted.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Okay, Okay, Well do you do you want to tell us?
I mean, it seems like it's very clear why you're
not calling him.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
I mean, you clear to him. We don't we don't
know what you're thinking.

Speaker 6 (09:49):
Yeah, I don't think it's clear to him that I'm
not really up for him wanting to date my mom.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
So why.

Speaker 4 (09:59):
Wait?

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Did he hit on your mom at the wedding reception?

Speaker 6 (10:02):
Or as far as I know, he hasn't met my mom,
But I don't know if he told you guys.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Wait, hold on, this is a lot. What we know
is that you guys met at a wedding. You guys
danced and had a good time. After the wedding, he
texted you a photo that looked a lot like you
and then and we thought.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
That was the reason. Yeah, called the fact that it
freaked you out.

Speaker 6 (10:24):
Yeah, well, I mean that was creepy anyway, but.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
So where did your mom come into play here?

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Yeah, that's weird.

Speaker 6 (10:32):
Yeah. So at the wedding, he said he was surprised
that I was single because he thought I was pretty
whatever and yeah, and I was like, oh, yeah, it's crazy.
Even my mom's dating, she's on the apps. Whatever. I
laughed about it, and he texted me that photo. Whatever.
But after that, my mom matched with him on one

(10:54):
of the apps.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Oh my god, Really, your mom tells your matches?

Speaker 6 (11:00):
Oh yeah, I mean my mom and I are fairly close,
and she showed me who she matched with.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Are you thinking that he went and like matched with
her on purpose?

Speaker 2 (11:09):
I don't know that it matters, probably to her.

Speaker 6 (11:11):
Yeah, I don't care how it happened. It's just the
fact that it happened.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yeah, okay, Well we don't know everything about how stuff
happened the way that it happened. The only person who
has the answers to that would be Stephen.

Speaker 6 (11:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
He may not even know, yeah, because.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
He didn't mention anything like this when we talked to him.
But he is on the other line right now waiting
to speak with you.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
Zoe.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
What why?

Speaker 2 (11:36):
What?

Speaker 1 (11:37):
That's how the segment works, Steven, are you there.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
This is awkward. Sorry.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah, yeah, did you know that you had matched with
her mom?

Speaker 4 (11:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (11:46):
I told you guys, I was like back on the
apps and looking for maybe someonet older.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Yeah, you said, yeah, you didn't say you met with
her family. You didn't say you went just one generation up.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Oh, so why's your mom got that young of a
dating pool? You should check her.

Speaker 5 (12:00):
She let job for the competition mom live.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Okay, so you two need to talk about this clearly, dude, what.

Speaker 6 (12:09):
Is actually wrong with you? Like you're gonna you're gonna
call the station and you're going to tell them like
you're trying to figure out what's wrong. But clearly what's
wrong is you're trying to get with my mother after
trying to get with me.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
We didn't know you were responding to me. You're being
kind of cold. I didn't know what to do.

Speaker 6 (12:27):
Yeah, for good reason.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (12:29):
The first straw was you sending me that creepy picture anyway,
so obviously I was going to be stand offish. And
then my mom showed me her dating app with you
on it.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Wait, have you been talking to her mother and.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
We changed the messages?

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Okay, did you send is a date going to happen
between you and Zoe's mom? Is that on the books.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Well, I didn't want to ruin things with Zoe and I.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Oh when he was prioritizing you Zoe?

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Is you send the mom the same picture you sent Zoe.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
I'm not going to make that the stick again.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
No way, okay, learning Okay, Stephen.

Speaker 6 (13:05):
I even showed her the picture that you sent her
to me and she still isn't you?

Speaker 3 (13:09):
So you guys can just go, she said, she's still
into me.

Speaker 6 (13:16):
Yeah, yeah, you go enjoy yourself.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Oh guys, we did it.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
We f have a soul. May God, so weird.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
So you you're saying you ship the relationship with your
mom and Steven, I.

Speaker 6 (13:33):
Mean, I don't know what else I can do. I
can't just tell my mom who she can and can't date.
So like, how am I supposed to talk to her
about that.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
At this point? A double date or I don't know.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
I mean, I'm going in default to the love expert
on the show. Do you think that we should do
in this situation?

Speaker 2 (13:54):
I mean it's I don't.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
She doesn't know perfect great ideas?

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Okay, ze dinner with either of them?

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Well she probably should because soon Stephen could be your stepdad.
I have to be around a Thanksgiving case.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
You need to set bout to your mom if you
got the same age ring.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
I mean, we would normally offer to send Steven out
with Zoe, but I guess Stephen will offer to send
you out with Zoe's mom on the.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
First So insulting. I am sorry, Zoe.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Why is that insulting?

Speaker 6 (14:27):
Because that'd be greatat.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Zoey's already turned him down. He's a free agent. He
can date whoever he wants. Zoe, will you ask your
mom for us?

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Please?

Speaker 4 (14:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (14:35):
No, forget all you guys. I'm sorry, this can't get anywhere.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah, darn Actually I'm actually worried that it can.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Is your grandma still alive? Because you never know? Yesrooking
Jeffrey in the morning. Wow, who knew fifty bucks on
a soulmate's psychic picture could work not once, but twice?
Talk about value getting your money's worse.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
I did not even think about that. It's actually twenty
f bucks per person at this point. That's great. You
could call it a family deal, really could if.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
You think about it. Zoe was just the bread crumb
that led Steven to his eventual destiny.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
The psychic Big Families, so that this can happen.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Per I mean, what if I know we're all skeptical,
but what if they really are meant to be? Would
that Second Date update update be the most anticipated one
we ever did on this show. Turn this into a movie,
we will be.

Speaker 5 (15:36):
Have you guys not been following this the Miley Cyrus
family drama right now? Oh my god, her mom Tish
got married to a guy that her younger sister was dating.
The whole thing is a hot mess. Those two aren't talking.
It doesn't end well. I'm just telling you.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
I heard it's a hot and I like that. It
truly is, and we can turn your life hot too.
If you email us for help with your dating life,
we'll call that person who's I'm calling you back. Go
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