July 16, 2025 • 15 mins
One man was stuck in the friend zone for 20 YEARS until he got a call that changed his life...You’re gonna hear what he did on the date he waited two decades for in a brand new Second Date Update!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Second date update.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
What are the percentages of how people meet when they
come to us?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
It's Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
I'd say like eighty.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Yeah, dating apps.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I think a couple of years ago that was up
to like ninety. But lately people have been starting to
grow tired of that. They're finding new ways to connect,
and you hear about more people meeting at run.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Clubs and yoga classes.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
One couple even met at the dentist's office in the
lobby when they were both high on nitrous waiting for
the rides to take them home.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Maybe just your personal story, Yeah, I'm still sexy and
worth mentioning.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
But we don't get a lot of folks on this
segment who already knew each other for years before they
ever went out on a date.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Yeah, because you know they'd be comfortable enough to like
check in and see what was going on.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
That's what you think, But we're doing it today with
our listener, Jillian. So, Jillian, welcome to the show.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Hi, thank you for taking a call.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I'd so like you got ghosted by someone who is
your friend.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
How that makes it work? How is how long were
they were your friend for?
Speaker 4 (01:08):
So?
Speaker 5 (01:08):
Thomas and I have known each other for almost twenty years.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Wait what child? Wait, how how do you guys know
each other?
Speaker 5 (01:15):
So we grew up in the same neighborhood. We were
on fourteen together, and our families were super closet, and
did we hung out together all the time, you know,
the barbecues and all that.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Oh man, that's like really interwoven.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah. Was he your first kiss ever as a kid
growing up?
Speaker 5 (01:32):
No, he did ask me out, like multiple times, like
over the years, he'd asked me out, and I said no,
not because I don't like him, but just because I
thought it might be awkward for our families, you know,
like you close, you know, we dated didn't work out.
I didn't want to get weird.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Families get that close.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I had somebody who I thought was my cousin my
whole life, and like literally like five ten years ago,
our parents were like, that's not your cousin, a good
family friend.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I'm like, wait, some ma, reason not my cousin. I
just love friendies grow up.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I mean they feel like blood. They really do. On
that one.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Okay, So he was trying for it and you kept
shooting him down for years.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yeah, So what changed?
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Well, I saw him a couple of weeks ago and
I picnic my family was hosting. It has been a
while since I've seen him, and I'm just gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
He looked really good, Thomas, Okay, and that changed your mind?
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Yeah, it was like, forget weird, let's just go for this.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Got hot, Okay, it's not shallow. You've known each other
for a long time.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Yeah, I mean I felt like it was safe. In
these days, you find someone that's so safe with totally okay.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
So wait, how did you guys turn it into a
romantic date though?
Speaker 6 (02:41):
Well?
Speaker 5 (02:41):
I hit him up. I hit him up, and I
was just like, hey, you want to meet up hang out?
And he kind of threaked out a little, you know,
he was like, when are you free let me cook
your dinner?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
He's I waited my whole life.
Speaker 7 (02:56):
Weird.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
It's because you rejected him for so long, no wonder.
He was like totally caught back by it.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Well, I thought he'd be confused that maybe they were
just going to hang out as friends. But his response
definitely doesn't sound like that.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
You said the word date, obviously, you like made it clear.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
I think it was more like in my energy and
my tone and that kind of made it like, yeah, yeah,
let's hang out.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
The eighteen hard emojis at the end of the text
message and the kissing emoji.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
That wasn't the emoji she was using.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Oh ye, okay, so that's cool. He wanted to cook
for you. How did that go?
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (03:27):
It's great. We had a fabulous meal.
Speaker 7 (03:29):
You know.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
I did the whole like hanging out in the kitchen
watching him cook. It was like a coconut curry cast role.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Oh was there any awkwardness?
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Because sometimes when you turn these friendships into something romantic like,
there can be I don't know, just funny moments, you know.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
To be honest, I was amazed at how comfortable it felt.
The conversation was really good. We did end up like
a little makeout session of.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
It, so he picked up.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
It sounds weird to say, but it may be hard
to get out of the friends, like when you've been
friends for so long.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Maybe his mind is just still blown and he hasn't
like come to realize that this wasn't a dream.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Yeah, did that really happen? What happened after the kiss?
Speaker 6 (04:16):
Well?
Speaker 5 (04:16):
I did go home. I was a good girl, okay,
but I got a couple of nice texts from him afterwards,
you know, like thanking me for coming over. But then
I've texted him a few more times with just sort
of like some invitations, what are you doing, want to
grab a drink, et cetera. And he's been sending back
the word busy. Oh, just the word yes. Like the
(04:36):
total attitude and energy and all of it has just changed,
And I have no idea what's going on with him?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Do you think he's trying to play hard to get now?
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I think it's really.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
Bad at him.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, in the script, so does him just texting the
word busy to you over and over? Is that worse
than just getting straight up ghosted?
Speaker 5 (04:54):
I don't think he ghosts, because like our family situaking
like that would be really weird.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
But just say one word busy it implies that he's
mad at you or something's wrong.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Though busy. We're actually kind of busy right now.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
So we should probably move on to the second part
of this call, where we reach out to Thomas for
you and try to figure out what's going on.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
Well, he's honestly not super busy.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
That's really important. We'll find out where we do your
second date update right after this second date update.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
If you're just joining us, quick recap of Jillian's date
with Thomas, a guy she's known for twenty years as
a family friend, and Thomas has actually asked her out
several times before. She always would say no to him
until he showed up to a family picnic looking like
a total snack, and she gave Tommy boy the old
(05:48):
green light after that.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
If you wanted to sit down next to the potato salad.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Oh yeah, it doesn't get any hotter. So eventually went
over to his place. He cooked a meal for her,
so it sounds like a lot of the family gatherings
are kind of based around food, so that sounds normal.
But since then he's only been replying to her text
with one word busy.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Ah really cold.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
And Jillian doesn't understand why. So we're trying to help
figure that out. Jillian, I'm curious, just going back to
the date night, you said he cooked like a coconut
curry thing for you. When you bit into it, did
you make a weird face or something that could have
been taken the wrong way by him, where maybe he
got offended.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
No, No, there's no way like his coconut curry was amazing.
I was like gushing if anything.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yeah, and they had a makeout session after words.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Well, I've made up with people angrily before when I've
been really mad at them.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Sometimes they settle differences.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Though.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
If you're a.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Manager and Jeff asked for the manager or do not come, Yeah,
it's the way you think you're about.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
To get a piece of my mind and my tongue.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
I'm gonna say that their first kiss was like crazy
because it's like twenty years.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
In the baking.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
That's wild.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
You even said it all felt natural, The kiss felt natural,
the chemistry, right, I mean.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
There is potential in this if we can get keep going.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Yeah, so let's just dial his number.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Hopefully he's not too busy to pick up, and we'll
see if we can get some answers.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Out of him.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
But I'm doing right now. Hello, Hey is this Thomas?
Speaker 6 (07:19):
Yeah? Who's this?
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (07:21):
Man?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
We're a radio show. We're called Brook and Jeffrey in
the Morning.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Hello, Good morning.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
Okay, we're just going to brag.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
We are very excited to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I am. We've actually we've heard a lot about you
from someone who asked us to reach out to you
named Jillian.
Speaker 7 (07:42):
Oh Okay, Yeah, okay, we know you know her for
a long time, and this is a segment we do
call the second date update because we're trying to figure
out why after you two hung out the other night
and had dinner together.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I mean, she feels like there should be another hangout
session and you're not responding.
Speaker 7 (08:04):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
I don't really know if I'm comfortable talking about this.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
I gotta she had the date went so well? Did
it not go well?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
In your eyes?
Speaker 3 (08:12):
I mean, it's such a cute story you two.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, this's been like in the making.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Right twenty years, you finally get out of the friend zone,
which impresses every man.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
Yeah, yeah, I had. I was looking forward to it
and it went really well. But well, there's just a
violation of trust unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Oh oh, I do.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
I don't think she's aware of that at all.
Speaker 6 (08:36):
Yeah, she probably isn't.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Well, if you are such good family friends going back
twenty years, I feel like you should be comfortable enough
to reach out and talk to her if there was
an issue, a violation of some sort.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
I mean, I'm not sure like how malicious it was,
but it's just it's complicated. Unfortunately, because of her, My
grandmother won't talk to me right.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Now, Wait, what what what does your grandma have to
do with Jillian?
Speaker 6 (09:03):
Yeah, well, I didn't realize at the time, but she
came over and I wanted to treat her right, right,
So I busted out grandma's secret recipe.
Speaker 7 (09:13):
You know.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
It's like this amazing dish that we always make for
special occasions of coconut curry castle role right. And I
guess while I was in the kitchen, cooking and doing
my thing, at some point, I must have had my
back turned and the family recipe book is just sitting
there open. It's not supposed to be shared with anybody
or anything like that. Apparently, at some point she must
(09:37):
have taken a photo of the recipe and forwarded it
to her grandmother.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
I I don't know if she meant to steal it,
like maliciously or for whatever reason, but it's now a
thing where her grandmother is holding it over my grandmother's head. Now,
my grandmother's mad at me. She's like, why would you
share that? You know, she's some petty grandma, right going on.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Dude, this feels not that petty to me, though. You
get a signature dish that you bring to every.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Event and everybody wants to know what it is, and
you can't tell them because then they're gonna bring it,
and then you have to ask, like, oh, are you
bringing it?
Speaker 3 (10:17):
I'm gonna bring it. It's a whole thing.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Some restaurants have literally started based on someone's secret family recipe,
like knoc yeah, whole secret recipe.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
I just I feel like, at the very least you
should have like said something or asked me before, but
like now, because of the way it went down and
I didn't realize, and then like you know, these grandma's
they can they they got claws.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
You know, did you tell her it was a secret
recipe before the photo, like.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
She knew, Oh yeah, oh yeah, she knows it's my
grandma's secret recipe. Okay, now my grandmother's like you let
some temptress come in and.
Speaker 8 (10:49):
You okay, hello, hello, Hello, I'm here comic okay ill
shoot all right, yeah, Thomas, that's Jilly and she's been
waiting on the other I wanted.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
To talk to you.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 4 (11:02):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah, that's that's how this segment works. It's kind of sneaky,
just like Grandma.
Speaker 8 (11:07):
No no, So listen.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
I did know. I think it was going to be
that big of a deal. I had no idea that
my grandma was going to share it with your grandma
like that and like literally taunt her. I did not
know that she was going to do that.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
Well, you've met our grandmothers. They they are like, well,
they got like old school beef with each other.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Oh, but I was thinking it was going to be
more like like a funny thing. Like I didn't realize
there was going to be like that, elevated emotionally.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
Yeah, that's hilarious. Now she won't even like answer my
phone calls.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Oh well, if you don't really want to answer any
grandma phone calls.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
To be honest, I think you should.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Check the will because somebody made me written out.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
I mean, they could talk to her. Maybe I can
talk to her.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
Trust me, she does not want to talk to you.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I appreciate that, but to the temptress.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
But I think there's only one way out of this,
and that's Jullian. You have to go get your grandmother's
secret recipe and.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Give it to Thomas's grandmother. It's like tit for tat,
you know.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
He Wait, wait, guys, I don't know. Maybe that's a
little too far.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Oh, that's too far. But what you did was innocent.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
I think that might actually work. I think I know
what recipe my grandmother would want.
Speaker 7 (12:23):
Really tell us, don't.
Speaker 8 (12:25):
Say it, please, Thomas, Please don't say.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
It, Grandpa Joes bourbon pecan.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Pie, pecan pie.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
That it would be a solution to balance things out
and restore peace to the neighborhood, into the grandma versus.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Really, if you have to sneak it, I think it's
worth it. Remember how hot Thomas got.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
Oh yeah, oh.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
You didn't hear that, Thomas. By the way, never mind.
I mean, are we really doing this right now?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Are we just swapping old family recipes resolve a dating dispute?
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Yeah, somehow I find it sexy.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah, but I don't want Jillian's grandma to now be
mad at us for encouraging this and now we're caught
up in this neighborhood feud.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
We'll just give her one of the Lexi's recipes butter
no milk water maybe Okay?
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Well, I mean I can't believe we're doing this, But Jillian,
is it possible that you'd be able to give unleash
one family recipe in order to make things good with
Thomas pea.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Camp that's right, the Peacan pie.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
It's possible.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
Wow, Just quick correction, It's not just the peacanpire recipe
is a bourbon peacmpire. Yeah, all right, that's the one
we want, all right.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Jillian says she's willing to betray her own grandmother and
give it up to you.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Well, I'm going to have to ask her, and I'm
going to take some work, but I'm willing to give
it a try.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Okay, Well, there you go. Will you say yes to
a second date? Because if you do, we would pay
for it.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
I mean, how how can I say no?
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Of course?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
All right, after that pecan pie andry, there you go.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I'm hungry and turned on.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
That's normal coming.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
I want you forward to it.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
Cute.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
You guys are going to be cute.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
Yeah, of course. And if you come over again, I
got the rest of your book out. Just promise me
you'll you'll ask me to close it or no? No
wandering eyes?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Right, yeah, you temptress.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Rookie Jeffrey in the morning missed opportunity, not for Thomas,
not for Thomas, and not for Jillian, for us.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
How did we not get a pie order in.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
At the very end we discussed pies for like the
last three minutes. We not one of us asked for
it to be delivered to the dude.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
What I want is an awkward Tuesday phone call with
those two petty gram us.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Yes, that's where the real drama is.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I want to I want to be part of a bakeoff.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
Dude.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
I feel like her grandma set her up, put it
in her mind to go out with him just so
she could get that wrestler want to that.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
I kind of.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Thought that too, like she was like, let's just go
on one date. Yeah, but then she would have been
asking us dirty work for me. So it's a lot
of drama still, but we love it.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Whatever drama is happening in your life and your personal
life or in your dating life, you can always email
the show and we can call that person who's not
calling you back. You can find all of our second
dates wherever you get your podcasts at Brook and Jeffrey
Benjam if you want, it's Brook and Jeffrey in the
Morning
Second date update.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
What are the percentages of how people meet when they
come to us?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
It's Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
I'd say like eighty.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Yeah, dating apps.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I think a couple of years ago that was up
to like ninety. But lately people have been starting to
grow tired of that. They're finding new ways to connect,
and you hear about more people meeting at run.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Clubs and yoga classes.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
One couple even met at the dentist's office in the
lobby when they were both high on nitrous waiting for
the rides to take them home.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Maybe just your personal story, Yeah, I'm still sexy and
worth mentioning.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
But we don't get a lot of folks on this
segment who already knew each other for years before they
ever went out on a date.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Yeah, because you know they'd be comfortable enough to like
check in and see what was going on.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
That's what you think, But we're doing it today with
our listener, Jillian. So, Jillian, welcome to the show.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Hi, thank you for taking a call.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I'd so like you got ghosted by someone who is
your friend.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
How that makes it work? How is how long were
they were your friend for?
Speaker 4 (01:08):
So?
Speaker 5 (01:08):
Thomas and I have known each other for almost twenty years.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Wait what child? Wait, how how do you guys know
each other?
Speaker 5 (01:15):
So we grew up in the same neighborhood. We were
on fourteen together, and our families were super closet, and
did we hung out together all the time, you know,
the barbecues and all that.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Oh man, that's like really interwoven.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah. Was he your first kiss ever as a kid
growing up?
Speaker 5 (01:32):
No, he did ask me out, like multiple times, like
over the years, he'd asked me out, and I said no,
not because I don't like him, but just because I
thought it might be awkward for our families, you know,
like you close, you know, we dated didn't work out.
I didn't want to get weird.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Families get that close.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I had somebody who I thought was my cousin my
whole life, and like literally like five ten years ago,
our parents were like, that's not your cousin, a good
family friend.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I'm like, wait, some ma, reason not my cousin. I
just love friendies grow up.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I mean they feel like blood. They really do. On
that one.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Okay, So he was trying for it and you kept
shooting him down for years.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yeah, So what changed?
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Well, I saw him a couple of weeks ago and
I picnic my family was hosting. It has been a
while since I've seen him, and I'm just gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
He looked really good, Thomas, Okay, and that changed your mind?
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Yeah, it was like, forget weird, let's just go for this.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Got hot, Okay, it's not shallow. You've known each other
for a long time.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Yeah, I mean I felt like it was safe. In
these days, you find someone that's so safe with totally okay.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
So wait, how did you guys turn it into a
romantic date though?
Speaker 6 (02:41):
Well?
Speaker 5 (02:41):
I hit him up. I hit him up, and I
was just like, hey, you want to meet up hang out?
And he kind of threaked out a little, you know,
he was like, when are you free let me cook
your dinner?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
He's I waited my whole life.
Speaker 7 (02:56):
Weird.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
It's because you rejected him for so long, no wonder.
He was like totally caught back by it.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Well, I thought he'd be confused that maybe they were
just going to hang out as friends. But his response
definitely doesn't sound like that.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
You said the word date, obviously, you like made it clear.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
I think it was more like in my energy and
my tone and that kind of made it like, yeah, yeah,
let's hang out.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
The eighteen hard emojis at the end of the text
message and the kissing emoji.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
That wasn't the emoji she was using.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Oh ye, okay, so that's cool. He wanted to cook
for you. How did that go?
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (03:27):
It's great. We had a fabulous meal.
Speaker 7 (03:29):
You know.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
I did the whole like hanging out in the kitchen
watching him cook. It was like a coconut curry cast role.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Oh was there any awkwardness?
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Because sometimes when you turn these friendships into something romantic like,
there can be I don't know, just funny moments, you know.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
To be honest, I was amazed at how comfortable it felt.
The conversation was really good. We did end up like
a little makeout session of.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
It, so he picked up.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
It sounds weird to say, but it may be hard
to get out of the friends, like when you've been
friends for so long.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Maybe his mind is just still blown and he hasn't
like come to realize that this wasn't a dream.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Yeah, did that really happen? What happened after the kiss?
Speaker 6 (04:16):
Well?
Speaker 5 (04:16):
I did go home. I was a good girl, okay,
but I got a couple of nice texts from him afterwards,
you know, like thanking me for coming over. But then
I've texted him a few more times with just sort
of like some invitations, what are you doing, want to
grab a drink, et cetera. And he's been sending back
the word busy. Oh, just the word yes. Like the
(04:36):
total attitude and energy and all of it has just changed,
And I have no idea what's going on with him?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Do you think he's trying to play hard to get now?
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I think it's really.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
Bad at him.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, in the script, so does him just texting the
word busy to you over and over? Is that worse
than just getting straight up ghosted?
Speaker 5 (04:54):
I don't think he ghosts, because like our family situaking
like that would be really weird.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
But just say one word busy it implies that he's
mad at you or something's wrong.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Though busy. We're actually kind of busy right now.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
So we should probably move on to the second part
of this call, where we reach out to Thomas for
you and try to figure out what's going on.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
Well, he's honestly not super busy.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
That's really important. We'll find out where we do your
second date update right after this second date update.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
If you're just joining us, quick recap of Jillian's date
with Thomas, a guy she's known for twenty years as
a family friend, and Thomas has actually asked her out
several times before. She always would say no to him
until he showed up to a family picnic looking like
a total snack, and she gave Tommy boy the old
(05:48):
green light after that.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
If you wanted to sit down next to the potato salad.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Oh yeah, it doesn't get any hotter. So eventually went
over to his place. He cooked a meal for her,
so it sounds like a lot of the family gatherings
are kind of based around food, so that sounds normal.
But since then he's only been replying to her text
with one word busy.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Ah really cold.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
And Jillian doesn't understand why. So we're trying to help
figure that out. Jillian, I'm curious, just going back to
the date night, you said he cooked like a coconut
curry thing for you. When you bit into it, did
you make a weird face or something that could have
been taken the wrong way by him, where maybe he
got offended.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
No, No, there's no way like his coconut curry was amazing.
I was like gushing if anything.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yeah, and they had a makeout session after words.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Well, I've made up with people angrily before when I've
been really mad at them.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Sometimes they settle differences.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Though.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
If you're a.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Manager and Jeff asked for the manager or do not come, Yeah,
it's the way you think you're about.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
To get a piece of my mind and my tongue.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
I'm gonna say that their first kiss was like crazy
because it's like twenty years.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
In the baking.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
That's wild.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
You even said it all felt natural, The kiss felt natural,
the chemistry, right, I mean.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
There is potential in this if we can get keep going.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Yeah, so let's just dial his number.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Hopefully he's not too busy to pick up, and we'll
see if we can get some answers.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Out of him.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
But I'm doing right now. Hello, Hey is this Thomas?
Speaker 6 (07:19):
Yeah? Who's this?
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (07:21):
Man?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
We're a radio show. We're called Brook and Jeffrey in
the Morning.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Hello, Good morning.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
Okay, we're just going to brag.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
We are very excited to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I am. We've actually we've heard a lot about you
from someone who asked us to reach out to you
named Jillian.
Speaker 7 (07:42):
Oh Okay, Yeah, okay, we know you know her for
a long time, and this is a segment we do
call the second date update because we're trying to figure
out why after you two hung out the other night
and had dinner together.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I mean, she feels like there should be another hangout
session and you're not responding.
Speaker 7 (08:04):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
I don't really know if I'm comfortable talking about this.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
I gotta she had the date went so well? Did
it not go well?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
In your eyes?
Speaker 3 (08:12):
I mean, it's such a cute story you two.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, this's been like in the making.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Right twenty years, you finally get out of the friend zone,
which impresses every man.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
Yeah, yeah, I had. I was looking forward to it
and it went really well. But well, there's just a
violation of trust unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Oh oh, I do.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
I don't think she's aware of that at all.
Speaker 6 (08:36):
Yeah, she probably isn't.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Well, if you are such good family friends going back
twenty years, I feel like you should be comfortable enough
to reach out and talk to her if there was
an issue, a violation of some sort.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
I mean, I'm not sure like how malicious it was,
but it's just it's complicated. Unfortunately, because of her, My
grandmother won't talk to me right.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Now, Wait, what what what does your grandma have to
do with Jillian?
Speaker 6 (09:03):
Yeah, well, I didn't realize at the time, but she
came over and I wanted to treat her right, right,
So I busted out grandma's secret recipe.
Speaker 7 (09:13):
You know.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
It's like this amazing dish that we always make for
special occasions of coconut curry castle role right. And I
guess while I was in the kitchen, cooking and doing
my thing, at some point, I must have had my
back turned and the family recipe book is just sitting
there open. It's not supposed to be shared with anybody
or anything like that. Apparently, at some point she must
(09:37):
have taken a photo of the recipe and forwarded it
to her grandmother.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
I I don't know if she meant to steal it,
like maliciously or for whatever reason, but it's now a
thing where her grandmother is holding it over my grandmother's head. Now,
my grandmother's mad at me. She's like, why would you
share that? You know, she's some petty grandma, right going on.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Dude, this feels not that petty to me, though. You
get a signature dish that you bring to every.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Event and everybody wants to know what it is, and
you can't tell them because then they're gonna bring it,
and then you have to ask, like, oh, are you
bringing it?
Speaker 3 (10:17):
I'm gonna bring it. It's a whole thing.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Some restaurants have literally started based on someone's secret family recipe,
like knoc yeah, whole secret recipe.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
I just I feel like, at the very least you
should have like said something or asked me before, but
like now, because of the way it went down and
I didn't realize, and then like you know, these grandma's
they can they they got claws.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
You know, did you tell her it was a secret
recipe before the photo, like.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
She knew, Oh yeah, oh yeah, she knows it's my
grandma's secret recipe. Okay, now my grandmother's like you let
some temptress come in and.
Speaker 8 (10:49):
You okay, hello, hello, Hello, I'm here comic okay ill
shoot all right, yeah, Thomas, that's Jilly and she's been
waiting on the other I wanted.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
To talk to you.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 4 (11:02):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah, that's that's how this segment works. It's kind of sneaky,
just like Grandma.
Speaker 8 (11:07):
No no, So listen.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
I did know. I think it was going to be
that big of a deal. I had no idea that
my grandma was going to share it with your grandma
like that and like literally taunt her. I did not
know that she was going to do that.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
Well, you've met our grandmothers. They they are like, well,
they got like old school beef with each other.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Oh, but I was thinking it was going to be
more like like a funny thing. Like I didn't realize
there was going to be like that, elevated emotionally.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
Yeah, that's hilarious. Now she won't even like answer my
phone calls.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Oh well, if you don't really want to answer any
grandma phone calls.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
To be honest, I think you should.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Check the will because somebody made me written out.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
I mean, they could talk to her. Maybe I can
talk to her.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
Trust me, she does not want to talk to you.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I appreciate that, but to the temptress.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
But I think there's only one way out of this,
and that's Jullian. You have to go get your grandmother's
secret recipe and.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Give it to Thomas's grandmother. It's like tit for tat,
you know.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
He Wait, wait, guys, I don't know. Maybe that's a
little too far.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Oh, that's too far. But what you did was innocent.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
I think that might actually work. I think I know
what recipe my grandmother would want.
Speaker 7 (12:23):
Really tell us, don't.
Speaker 8 (12:25):
Say it, please, Thomas, Please don't say.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
It, Grandpa Joes bourbon pecan.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Pie, pecan pie.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
That it would be a solution to balance things out
and restore peace to the neighborhood, into the grandma versus.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Really, if you have to sneak it, I think it's
worth it. Remember how hot Thomas got.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
Oh yeah, oh.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
You didn't hear that, Thomas. By the way, never mind.
I mean, are we really doing this right now?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Are we just swapping old family recipes resolve a dating dispute?
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Yeah, somehow I find it sexy.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah, but I don't want Jillian's grandma to now be
mad at us for encouraging this and now we're caught
up in this neighborhood feud.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
We'll just give her one of the Lexi's recipes butter
no milk water maybe Okay?
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Well, I mean I can't believe we're doing this, But Jillian,
is it possible that you'd be able to give unleash
one family recipe in order to make things good with
Thomas pea.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Camp that's right, the Peacan pie.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
It's possible.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
Wow, Just quick correction, It's not just the peacanpire recipe
is a bourbon peacmpire. Yeah, all right, that's the one
we want, all right.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Jillian says she's willing to betray her own grandmother and
give it up to you.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Well, I'm going to have to ask her, and I'm
going to take some work, but I'm willing to give
it a try.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Okay, Well, there you go. Will you say yes to
a second date? Because if you do, we would pay
for it.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
I mean, how how can I say no?
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Of course?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
All right, after that pecan pie andry, there you go.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I'm hungry and turned on.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
That's normal coming.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
I want you forward to it.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
Cute.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
You guys are going to be cute.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
Yeah, of course. And if you come over again, I
got the rest of your book out. Just promise me
you'll you'll ask me to close it or no? No
wandering eyes?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Right, yeah, you temptress.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Rookie Jeffrey in the morning missed opportunity, not for Thomas,
not for Thomas, and not for Jillian, for us.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
How did we not get a pie order in.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
At the very end we discussed pies for like the
last three minutes. We not one of us asked for
it to be delivered to the dude.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
What I want is an awkward Tuesday phone call with
those two petty gram us.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Yes, that's where the real drama is.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I want to I want to be part of a bakeoff.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
Dude.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
I feel like her grandma set her up, put it
in her mind to go out with him just so
she could get that wrestler want to that.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
I kind of.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Thought that too, like she was like, let's just go
on one date. Yeah, but then she would have been
asking us dirty work for me. So it's a lot
of drama still, but we love it.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Whatever drama is happening in your life and your personal
life or in your dating life, you can always email
the show and we can call that person who's not
calling you back. You can find all of our second
dates wherever you get your podcasts at Brook and Jeffrey
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