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November 18, 2024 16 mins

The woman on the phone told us about her date and it involved an Uber, a really bad haircut and probably a new LOW for the modern dating scene.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The second date up date.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Our word of the day for this segment is forgiveness.
Can you forgive a guy for making a mistake in
the middle of a date?

Speaker 1 (00:14):
For sure, I'm sure you can. But should you forgive him?
Though probably not.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Forgiveness is a dangerous slope towards other feelings like understanding
and compassion, gratitude. None of those things sound fun or
sexy in the world, though not.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
In the dating party.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
But one of our listeners has decided to exercise forgiveness today,
even though she says he totally let her down.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Kelsey, are you sure about doing this?

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (00:48):
No, I'm sure.

Speaker 5 (00:49):
Oh my god. So wait, he let you down and
he's the one not calling you back?

Speaker 4 (00:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Well, first of all, I apologize on beh half of
this guy and for all men in general, but tell.

Speaker 5 (01:02):
Us apologizing for me.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
We are sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
What is the name of this particular man who wronged you?

Speaker 3 (01:09):
His name is Stephen?

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Stephen. Everybody that I know named Stephen is terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Anything about me too, and one of my best friends'
names are our producer was named Stephen. That guy, So
it sounds like you brought this on yourself. But what
did Stephen do?

Speaker 4 (01:28):
So Stephen and I went on a date, and you know,
it was a good day. Like we went to the
place that I suggested, which was nice. It was like
a little upscale.

Speaker 5 (01:40):
Was it, like you're out to dinner? Is that you
guys are doing.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
Or just yeah, it was dinner. It was dinner, okay,
And there was just a couple of things that kind
of irked me. I'm not gonna lie, Like, so we
saw each other for the first time, and like he
waited to me, I wait to him, but before he
came over to me, he like her away for a
second and like hold the door open for this other lady,

(02:04):
which fine, whatever, but I'm like, dude, we're literally just meeting.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
He was just being somebody, and you're saying that upsets
you because you were just in the middle of like
introducing yourself.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Yes, totally, okay, shut the.

Speaker 5 (02:21):
Door on someone.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Well, he should be focused on her.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
That's why I let us slide, right, Okay.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
You're more forgiving than any of us would be at
that point.

Speaker 6 (02:32):
Like it's strange that it was even a flag at
all for you, but yes, okay, maybe you let it go.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Seems like it was more of a moment for her that.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
She was like, excuse me, are you on a date
with me? Or on a date with this old lady
trying to get into the door.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Maybe it was probably a short though.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
I could see where she's coming from. Okay, Kelsey, everyone
else is against you, but I'm on your side.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
I think that's a total valid Like that, should I
even tell what the big problem was? Problem? Okay? So then,
like the game, I'm fine whatever. I was looking past
his stupid haircut.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Anyways, stupid haircut the photos.

Speaker 6 (03:11):
It doesn't feel like you're looking past it when then
you call it a stupid haircut.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
Well, I'm on the phone with you guys talking about it,
so young, I'm looking past it.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Okay, she wants to see him again, remember that, So.

Speaker 6 (03:25):
He's got a dumb haircut.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Attention to other people? So far? Did he make more mistakes?

Speaker 5 (03:34):
She did?

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Oh god?

Speaker 5 (03:36):
What did he do next?

Speaker 4 (03:38):
At the end of the gate, I was like, this
was nice to get me my uber home? And he
was like, no, you can get it.

Speaker 5 (03:46):
Wait what you want to order? You? An uber?

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Is that?

Speaker 5 (03:49):
Is that like a normal thing? And Day never asked
somebody to buy it.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
I've never asked. She just takes his phone and orders
it through.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
I have never I've never had a guy tell me
to getting me an uber.

Speaker 5 (04:01):
That's a thing I had no idea. I also don't
think I've just not gone home with him.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
You know.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
That's true.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
I think.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
So you're mad at him. Is that you're big because
you said there was one.

Speaker 6 (04:14):
Huge Yes, that was my big thing.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
I was just like, I could be murdered and you
wouldn't know. And then on top of it, he didn't
even text me to check him and see if I
got back, and I haven't heard from him for all
he knows I could be murdered.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
I think all of these complaints are very, very valid
from you, But it is starting to seem like you
don't like this guy at all.

Speaker 6 (04:34):
Why are we getting a hold of him. Is it
just because he's not calling you?

Speaker 4 (04:39):
Like I said before, I got over the fact that
he didn't pay so much attention to me, he had
a stupid haircut, whatever, But I did like other things,
like he was really funny, so oh.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
Good, okay, okay, all right?

Speaker 6 (04:53):
I mean were you can I ask were you critical
of any of these things?

Speaker 5 (04:57):
While on the day, I'm just, you know, part of.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Because that's what Brooke would do on a first say
that after you literally just railed on this dude.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
You're the one that I agree.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Personally, I think he's a schmuck. He sounds like a
terrible person, but she's the one who wants to call him.
Jim would never look like that's definite deal breaker.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
Well, I'm not gonna lie, like I have a hard
time hiding the look on my face. But I didn't
verbally say anything to him, but like, I don't know
how my face looks. Okay, I know that you guys
always get haircuts.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
They think it's good the day of, it's good, like
three days.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
Later a lesson too.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
We don't know when he got his hair cuting whatever
it was, doubt so. I know you can't control what
was on your face, but you can control what was
in your heart.

Speaker 5 (05:47):
And we need to.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Figure out what's inside Steven's heart when we call him
and then also mess with his face and his hair
a little.

Speaker 5 (05:54):
Bit too to get But you're not going to bring
that up.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Well, we'll see what happens.

Speaker 5 (05:59):
Oh, jee, did you.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
Want to know why he's not asking me out again?

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Okay, we're going to find out.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
We're going to call this schmuck coming up with your
second date update right after the.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Second Date update. We've had a lot of strong, brave
women on this segment.

Speaker 6 (06:15):
Before Brooks in every one of them, Hey, that's actually
not hey, I'm in the room to Oh.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, yeah you too. I think Kelsey may be the
bravest of them all.

Speaker 5 (06:27):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
She boldly has chosen to forgive Stephen for his list
of mistakes on their first date, paying attention to the
old lady when they were introducing to each other.

Speaker 5 (06:42):
And was old that he holds the door for jem.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Why would he hold it for an able doesn't make
any sense.

Speaker 5 (06:51):
All women, Jeff, for gentlemen, anybody.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
They can open the door themselves if they were able body.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
She also chose to for give his stupid, dumb haircut.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
I'm very proud of her for that, and she asked
him to put on a hat.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Most importantly, she chose to forgive him for not paying
for her uber ride home after the date after she
asks after she asked him to, he said no.

Speaker 5 (07:17):
Such an awkward moment.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
But despite all of those mistakes that Stephen made, she
has chosen to look past them and give him one
more chance.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
With this call today.

Speaker 5 (07:27):
Oh wow, Bravery, you.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Are so strong, so brave for what you did.

Speaker 5 (07:33):
I know you know, I'm excited. Toe.

Speaker 6 (07:36):
Can I ask one question? After he said no on
that Uber ride? Did you just stand there awkwardly at
the corner while he laughed? Or did you both wait
awkwardly for an Uber ride?

Speaker 4 (07:49):
No? I walk away?

Speaker 5 (07:52):
Okay that's how the date ended.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Hopefully after this call, you never have to pay for
your own Uber ever. Again, that's our goal for you today.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
So here we go. I'm gonna dial Steven. Let's see
if he even answers. Probably won't. I don't trust the guy,
don't like him. So here we go. Hello, Hey is

(08:23):
this Stephen? Yeah, it was this, Oh Steven, Jeffrey. We've
heard a lot about you, Steven.

Speaker 5 (08:31):
We've heard a lot of good things about you. Steven.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
I don't know about that man.

Speaker 5 (08:37):
I listen to his language to Jeffrey, listen, I.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Know blandering us. We're a radio show, a very popular
one called Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah, like a prank call.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
We do do those.

Speaker 5 (08:51):
Yeah, you'd probably be happier if it was.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah, this is called a second date update, and we
are trying to help one of our listeners figure out
what happened on the date that you went.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Out with her.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Well, who are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (09:05):
It's a girl named Kelsey?

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Oh of course, my god?

Speaker 5 (09:10):
Oh yeah, what's up with that?

Speaker 3 (09:14):
I was probably the nuttiest girl I ever met.

Speaker 5 (09:17):
Really, sometimes that can be good? Is that a positive?

Speaker 1 (09:21):
She's really eccentric.

Speaker 5 (09:22):
I don't know if i'd want to be called nutty.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
I mean, we know a little bit about what happened
on the date. We're just trying to figure out, like,
how did you experience that night?

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Well, look, so it started okay, we were having a
good time, and then towards the end of the day
is where it got a little weird.

Speaker 5 (09:41):
Is this like after dinner?

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, So after dinner I offer her a ride home.
Oh and so we're going there. But halfway through, she says,
can you stop at the store for me?

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Wait? Wait wait, wait wait wait you offered to drive
her home?

Speaker 5 (09:54):
She no, she got an uber.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
She told us that she wanted an uber home.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Oh yeah, just wait, just wait, we'll get to that. Wait.

Speaker 6 (10:03):
So she takes the ride, and you guys are in
the car together, in the car together.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Halfway to her place, she says, stop at the store
for me.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
You go in there and she's getting all this like skincare,
hair product, beauty stuff.

Speaker 5 (10:17):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
And after all this, we get to the counter and
her car declines.

Speaker 5 (10:22):
Oh that's yeah, how much?

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Yeah, eighty four dollars and thirty six cents that.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
I pay Not that you remember or anything.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Did you say you paid it?

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yeah? I paid it because the card declined. She was
throwing back. Dinner was two hundred bucks already, and so
I'm paying for this this stupid skincare stuff.

Speaker 6 (10:44):
Yeah, but I mean it was a mistake, like an
honest mistake, and like, that's so humiliating when you get
your car declined.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
I think anybody would have picked it up.

Speaker 5 (10:51):
Like are you mad about it?

Speaker 6 (10:52):
Though?

Speaker 3 (10:53):
No. What I'm annoyed with is the mixed part too,
because all of it together it just makes it feel
like I'm just getting taken advantage of it.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
So I tell her, all right, let's get back of
a car. I'm gonna take you home, and she's like, no,
I don't feel comfortable with that. I want to get
an uber. What the chance to pay for the freaking uber?
I'm like, what are you kidding me.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
After you had just paid for her dinner and for
her skincare products.

Speaker 5 (11:14):
Well, she was over, she's in the car. Yeah, why
did she suddenly feel uncomfortable?

Speaker 3 (11:18):
I don't know, Like I was just out three hundred
bucks and now she wants me to uber her at home.
So it was just really weird to me, Like, I
really don't get that.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
So you're like, no, because they could drive you home.

Speaker 6 (11:26):
That is so weird that she did not tell us
that she was outside a store.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yeah, we we missed that part of the story, and
we should probably ask her about it because she's on
the other line listening to this conversation right now.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
Stephen, Oh, yeah, he wouldn't do it. Oh, well, what
he wouldn't pay for it?

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Well, hold on, Telsey, you didn't tell us any of
the stuff about going to the store and him buying
you your beauty products.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
We thought it was after the restaurant matter.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Well, that part of the story does matter, because we're
just trying to like understand what happened that night. You
didn't tell us any of that part of the story. Hello,
oh god, what.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
Did we do?

Speaker 5 (12:09):
We outed her?

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Oh yeah, we didn't out her. Stephen did he's the jerk.
I told you you can't trust this.

Speaker 6 (12:17):
Guy, the guy who got taken on a day.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
Of answering her questions.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Stephen, do you feel bad for making her look like
such a terrible person in your recap?

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Oh? Yeah, I feel so terrible for her.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Wow, why would you speak?

Speaker 2 (12:32):
I can't believe you didn't offer to pay for her
uber home after she already got halfway there, and you
can pay for all of her stuff.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
I don't even get like why she called you in
the first place. Did she want to go out with
me again or something?

Speaker 5 (12:44):
That's what she told us. She kept saying like you
had red flags, but she was willing to look past up.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
She's a kind soul who's willing to forgive you for
all the mess ups that made.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
What are the mess ups that she even mentioned?

Speaker 5 (12:56):
You did some horrible things?

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Is long? My friend? Do you really want to dive
into this?

Speaker 6 (13:01):
I don't know if you realize this, but you opened
a door for another woman.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 5 (13:06):
No?

Speaker 2 (13:06):
In the of greeting Kelsey, so she felt belittled that.

Speaker 5 (13:13):
You do know that Jeffery's being sarcastic right now?

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Right, Stephen, I don't know you guys, so I have
no idea, but I really do.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
That was rude.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
We've been talking for the last like five minutes, and
now you're gonna pretend like you don't even know us.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
You see what I'm saying. Kelsey had a point.

Speaker 6 (13:29):
How far into the date did you realize that you're
gonna not be calling her back again?

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Well, once we get to the store and she gets
all the skincare products, I thought it was weird when
a car gets declined. I mean, I just thought she
was taking advantage of me, to be honest, but.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
It's it's skin care products to look beautiful for you.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
I'm not That's what you don't get, Steven. That purchase
was not for her. It was for you.

Speaker 5 (13:58):
You know, you don't really under when she's not on
the phone anymore.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Somebody needs to stand up for brave Kelsey, who bravely
hung up in the middle of the segment.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
You're gonna die on that hill.

Speaker 5 (14:10):
Huh, he will die on that hill. It's gonna be
a very lonely hill, but he's on you know what.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
I've never done this before, Steven, and honestly, I'm not
a big fan of you, but I'm still going to
offer to give you a gift certificate to pay for
a new haircut.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Oh Jack, my hair, well me.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
I mean, Kelsey said that she liked it a lot,
but Brooke and Studio when she saw your photo was like,
we got to make a change the.

Speaker 5 (14:36):
Steve, that's not true. I've never seen your picture.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
I mean, I could send you a few different pictures.

Speaker 5 (14:47):
Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Okay, I just got done sending Brooks contact in f.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Steven, So Brooke, there should be some photos arriving in
your box and a couple of.

Speaker 5 (14:59):
I don't any photos any man.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
You can sort them like you normally do, and all
your color coded hot guy folders, which is very bold
of you to do on your work computer.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
But more power to you.

Speaker 5 (15:10):
Yeah, that's just of employees.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Okay, that's that's allowed. That's fair.

Speaker 5 (15:14):
That they're all not hot is the problem.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
With what you're giving.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
So as far as Kelsey goes from that call, I
gotta say I appreciate a woman who knows exactly what
she wants, and what she wanted was to rudely hang
up on us in the middle of the call and
doing that to guts.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
I respect her for that. Did she know what she wanted?

Speaker 5 (15:38):
I don't know. It's hard to make up products.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Yes, and the guy to pay for everything, which is fair.

Speaker 6 (15:45):
I guess I still feel bad that a card was
declined or she just has a fake.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Knew was going to be declined.

Speaker 5 (15:53):
How she's a scammer. You just shut your card off
on the app. It takes two seconds.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
You Oh, you're in the negative already.

Speaker 5 (16:01):
I was about to buy her face cream.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
She's scamming her way right into all of our hearts.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
And you can do if you email the show, we'll
call that person who's not calling you back and go.
Check out all of our Second Date podcasts, all of
our many many success stories online at Brook and Jeffrey

Speaker 5 (16:16):
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