May 14, 2025 • 18 mins
When you're out to dinner and you notice something on your date's face, do you tell them or keep it to yourself? One of our listeners is worried the choice he made is why he's not getting a call back. We'll find out in a brand new Second Date Update!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to your brand new Second Date podcast. It's Brooke and.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Jeffrey in the morning, and I gotta say I think
today's Second Date calls for a poll.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
We haven't done a pole mile of course. I think
the poll only works on Spotify to actually click it. Yeah, done.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
But you can just put in your answer wherever else
you're listening. That's on the comments, whether it's on YouTube
or whatever platform you're on, or you can text it
into the number seven eight five nine two. If your
date has something on their face, do you say something
or do you keep it to yourself?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
It depends, honestly, I'd probably wipe it off. Yeah, yeah,
with what with a napkin?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Oh sorry, I'm all excited, all right, let us know,
let us know, and you'll understand why that question here
in just a second.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
But first comments from our lovely Lovely listeners.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Alexis Killer Sheep said, I've been listening since February and
finally caught up with all the episodes in the Second
Date Update podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I'm upgrading to the full show now.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yeah, okay, good. I was gonna say, oh no, you
ran out of stop to listen to.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I mean, that's the thing that people don't understand who
love this podcast is. We actually do an.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Hour long show every day e stink and day we
do a brand new show. So if you want the
full show, you can go over to main our main
feed podcast just look up Brooke and Jefferys that's right there.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Or you can click more like this and I think
it's the first option.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
That's yeah, that's true too. All right, let's get this
second date started.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah, second date up date. Brooke, did you know the
first time that you met your husband Michael that something
was special? Not saying that you knew like you were
going to get married in the first fifteen seconds of
talking to him, but was there anything that happened with
you instantly that lets you know, whoa, there's something real,
(01:44):
like something actually special going on.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
No, I just felt so good around him, and I
was so excited about him.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Okay, you're drunk, so that's probably.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I mean, I did have like five glasses of wine
and make an off color ut I joke.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Okay, well yeah, ey jokes and.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
He still likes me.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Okay, Pet explains it. I mean, I remember the first
time that I met Jose and I noticed his fly
was down and I thought ooh special.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah, he didn't tell me Xyz though.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
No I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
He asked you to put it down further.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Yeah, but you know, we don't talk about this all
the time, about that first ten to fifteen seconds when
you meet your date and something happens inside. That's what
you knows.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
That's real.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Apparently that happened to one of our listeners gram recently,
at least that's what his email said, and we should
learn a little bit more about it. Graham, Welcome to
the show man.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Hey guys, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
I can't wait to hear about this chance meeting. Maybe
it wasn't chance meeting. Whatever the meeting was, it sounds great.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah, So, without getting overly descriptive, how did your body
let you know that this was special?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Well, she didn't ever fly open. I can tell you that.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Oh yeah, dang it.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
So what's her name, by the way, and how did
you meet her?
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Her name is Aura, Aura.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
How did you meet her?
Speaker 4 (03:07):
We met on one of those dating apps and we
decided to meet at a wine bar.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
All right, So going into meeting her at the wine bar,
were you expecting something special?
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Well, you know how you always have your hopes up.
But I knew when I walked in that I was
going to be in so much trouble. Why immediately recognized
me and started from across the room waving both of
her hands over her head like a total door.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Just one of those people like me. She's got no shame.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
And you loved that.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Right, Oh my god. She was just so like effort lived, cute, well, free.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Spirit over there.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Her name's Aura, it comes you know. That's adorable. Yeah,
And it sounds like she was excited to see you.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
It was one of those like initial meetings where in
the first five seconds I was like, oh my god,
this is just like a dream.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
That must be a lot to process, right when you're
first getting to know somebody. So did the feeling where
often just getting to like a normal date after that.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
I mean, I wouldn't say it wore off or it
was normal. It was just I mean there was a
jazz trio playing fine and we were both into jazz music,
and she was like, oh, let's make up names for
the guys, and so you have Sammy Fly guitar playing
and Dennis the drummer, yeahnny, all that kind of stuff.
We were just cracking each other up the whole time.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
You guys were in your own world right exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
And they're already making almost inside jokes with each other,
you know, like just a fun, fun thing.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Now anytime any song goes on the radio, you can
be like, oh yeah, this is my favorite drummer, Yeah
Lington drummers.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I know whatever.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Well, clearly the vibes are there, so keep taking us
through how the rest of the date goes.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
It just kept getting better. I mean, our sense of
like humor was just so like simpatico, I guess to
that word. Like at one point she had like some
lipstick on her front teeth. Huh, So I started like
signaling and rubbing on my own front teeth.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Good, I'm glad you told her.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
And she just looks at me. She goes, what do
you have in a stroke on your teeth? Exactly? I
was just laughing so much and then fun, Oh yeah
it was it went so well, oh my god, this sounds.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Like it Why are you calling us for help? Then, like,
I don't get it. How could this have ended poorly?
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Well, that's the thing, it didn't really end poorly. When
we said goodbye, she just came up to me and
gave me like a really long, tight hug.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Oh that's nice.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Some of those are nice exactly, and she says, we
have to definitely do this again.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Oh that's nice.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Sincere, I texted her twice, one time to see if
she wanted to go out for coffee, the second time
to see if she wanted to go to a trivia night,
because I think she'd be great at that.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Wait, how long did you wait before you texted her?
Was this like thirty minutes after the date or was
this a couple of days?
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I waited two days.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
I think that's too long too.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I think when you have a connection like that with
someone that you just go with it.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
You just follow You got to play the game of waiting. Yeah, day,
that's what blew it that it took too long.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Have you read that on a certain point, you just
got to grab your luggage and move in with her.
It sounds like so connected.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Have you not heard from her at all?
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Well, that's the thing is like when I was texting her,
she did reply, but both times she said that she
was busy, And the worst part was like she didn't
offer an alternative time or date or anything like that.
It was like, well, I'm busy. I can't.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I mean, sometimes these free spirits, they really suck at.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Text outa you know, I mean, Alexis, if you wanted
to see a guy, would you tell him like, I'm
just busy, or you offer up a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I would offer something else. I'd probably over offer. Honestly,
I'd probably mentioned all the times I'm free.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
How many times you do apologize for being busy A lot?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
It is odd that she leaves it at just I'm
busy and no explanation and no other follow up to
it exactly. That could feel like that she's trying to
brush you off. I understand it.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
You guys had such a thing happening.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
It's just hard to imagine she wasn't right there with
you feeling the exact same thing.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Well, maybe it was the fact that you made her
pay for the dinner that night you made I'm just
assuming you.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
No, no, no, I am a proper gentleman. I paid
for everything. Okay, I just need I need you guys
to find out for me, how the hell did I
blow this.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
We're gonna find for you. How do keep it going?
Because I've got faith in this one.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Because we don't even know that you blew it. It could
be something totally unrelated.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I am so excited to get her on the phone.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Let's find out. We're gonna come back call Aura and
try and get you your second date update coming up
right after this. Okay, all right, man, hold on second
date update whenever. I'm stuck on holds with customer service
for four straight hours and the automated message keeps replaying
over and over saying we're busy right now, but don't
(08:18):
go anywhere. Your call's very important to us. We're just busy. Yeah,
I believe them. Oh you do they really really care? Yeah,
I'm not understaffed.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Yeah, not a break somewhere.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
But the thing is, if you're on the other end
of a potential relationship with somebody you really like and
you get too sorry, I'm just busy right now in
a rowse, it's hard not to be a little bit
skeptical and feel like you're being blown off.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Especially when they don't say, hey, press number nine for
a different day to date me up exactly.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
And that's where our listener Graham is. After a really
good date at a jazz bar with a girl named Aura.
He has turned to us because those two busys just
aren't equally a second meetup, and they're not.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Equaling the vibe that they had going when they were
hanging out.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
It just sounds so I can't believe we haven't said
it sooner, but negative our points for her?
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Yeah, Graham, I mean before we call her here, how
you feeling.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
I'm feeling a little nervous, to be honest, But how's
your Aura?
Speaker 1 (09:18):
I mean, I get it, I'm feeling nervous for you.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I mean, you just sound so excited, and I want
this to happen for you.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I think we all do.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Everything sounded so good. I don't want to put this
out there, but it has to be shocking. Like whatever
the excuse is, you're not gonna see like, oh wow,
I didn't think of that. There's nothing that has gone wrong.
We can change that right now. Let let's see if
something went wrong. I'm going to dial her number right now.
Hopefully she picks up the phone. Here we go. Hello, Hey,
(09:54):
is this Aura? Yes, this is a we're a radio show.
We're called Brook and Jeffrey in the morning show. Thanks
for being on with us.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
Uh okay, Hi, I didn't I don't think I signed
up for anything.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, you didn't know, you didn't, but one of our
listeners kind of signed you up for something called a
second Date Update. Okay, So if you're not familiar with that,
it's a segment that we do on our show where
we try to help people who've gone out with somebody
one time but they're not getting that second meetup and
they're not sure why. We can call and try to
(10:34):
figure out if there's a reason for it. Yeah, does
that make sense?
Speaker 6 (10:39):
Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
We know you're really busy, so we won't keep it.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
That's what we've heard. We're really good at these. By
the way, we'll be efficient.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Okay, we'll get through this.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Because we're calling about a guy that you went out
with recently named Graham.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
I'm sorry, I'm like super confused, Like what is this
great question?
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Well, yeah, no, it's the thing is, we spoke to
Graham about your date, and we're trying to figure out
if there's a reason that the two of you haven't
gone out again, because you keep saying to him that
you're busy.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
But not offering any solutions on wind to meet up.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Yeah, I mean, I like I already texted him, Like
I said, I was busy during the times he wanted
to hang out.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I think in his mind, when you say I'm busy,
that's just like it can be a word that people
use to brush somebody off if you're not actually wanting
to see them, but you don't want to come off
as being rude.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
Like I meant what I said, I'm just really busy.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Okay, okay, but there's no way I mean, like, I'm sorry,
we're all really busy. But like when you meet somebody
that you feel like you have this crazy connection with,
you'll make time for them.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
But I'm not like canceling my plans, Like I know
we're not we're.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Not asking you to do that. But he just asked
us to call because it was unclear to him if
you actually wanted to meet up.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
But it's what's unclear.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
I'm saying, Okay, but I am busy, uncle.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
If you like, I'm honestly still unclear whether you actually
like him or not.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
I like him, but like I don't understand why, like
he needs a third party interjecting. I said that I'm free.
I'm just busy during the times he.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Mentioned gotcha, I hear you, and I don't want to
be the third party interjecting whatsoever. In fact, it's just
like weird. Well, no, listen, Graham is actually the one
I want you to talk to. And it's perfect because
he's right here on the other line listening, waiting to jump.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
In or what.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
I'm so confused, like what is happening? What's like? What's
the deal with these like jobbers you hire to like
grow me about us?
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Job said job jobbers?
Speaker 6 (12:50):
I called you jobbers, like I don't know what you
guys like we are?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I okay, you.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Talk to her?
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Yeah I didn't. I didn't hire them. It's just a
radio show, and they, you know, help people get in
touch if they're having trouble getting together.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
So yeah, but like I told you, I was busy
a couple of times, Like don't you think it's a
little extreme to like go in a radio station? And
who honestly, whoever that guy was I've been talking to,
like did not seem prepared at all.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
I don't know what I was talking about. And he
like trying to nail down a gate for you about Jeff.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
That's fine. Sometimes people need a common enemy to come together.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Honestly, I'm with her. I wasn't doing it. That was
pretty crap. I get myself a.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
D or can't you think of this as like a
kind of a romantic gesture, like he really.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Wants to see you and he went to all this effort.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
No, it's super weird chemistry.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I feel like you're angry.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Does this feel like the same person you went out
with Graham?
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Well maybe not a little bit, but you guys have
been kind of grilling. Are pretty hard hard.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah, we can take the fall.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Yeah, no, no, no, that's okay. I mean your intentions
are great, and that's fine.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
I did have some bad intentions when I dialed. I
brought some negative energy into this and that's what fat
that's right. You're so guilty and you shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Be, Laura.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Is there is there anything we can do to come
back from putting you out or making you feel weird?
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Like you keep saying?
Speaker 7 (14:27):
You can stop asking me questions and he can just
ask me out.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
How about that?
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Because I think that's perfect. That's perfect. I'd love to
hang out. And how about this weekend? Are you free
like on Friday?
Speaker 6 (14:42):
I'm busy Friday?
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Okay, keep going, Well, we'll have How about Saturday?
Speaker 7 (14:49):
Then I've got something that day, but like you should,
you probably need to notice.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
But I'm in like two other situationships.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Oh that's why you're okay.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Now you know why she's so busy.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Oh, Graham, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Is that okay with you?
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Graham? Or let me ask you. You said you're already
in two situationships? So really, what does that mean?
Speaker 6 (15:17):
It means a lot of fun.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Do you even have time for me then?
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Or what I'm free Sunday afternoon? Like I can squeeze
you in.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
I'm not really sure if I want to be squeezed
in between two other dudes.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Beggars can't be choosers here, Like you're the one who's
lead to the party, but it's still a party.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
She's clearly not rejecting you, but you're gonna.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
But she's offering you not much.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
Yeah, I'm single, Like I don't have to like.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Kind of you?
Speaker 1 (16:01):
You're kind of single.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I think we're all jealous of you are if anything.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
So, I think, Graham, I don't know, Graham, I feel
like you deserve more than this.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
I don't know. Look, guys, I think I should just
go with my gut and say you only live once.
And let's do it.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
So you're over to a possible third situationship with Aura.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Well, I mean, if the third situationship goes so well,
maybe they'll just turn into a single situationship.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Okay, that's really optimistic for yourself.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
I think that's the point of like dating, Like you're
supposed to try things and see what sticks.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Okay, that's true.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Yeah, well great, Now we're running out of time here.
So I'm just curious though, Aura, if he does go
through with this, does that put him like in the
third seat, like the last place guy, or does he
need to do a trial run? And does he have
to meet the other guys?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Why would they meet the other I.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Don't know how.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
That's so weird.
Speaker 7 (17:01):
No, Okay, if it works out, it works out, and
if it doesn't, we had fun.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Okay, great. I just want to be clear that we're
setting our guy up for success here. So we would
like to offer to send you guys out on a
date and we would pay for it.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
Yeah, I mean, I'm down, thank you.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Not the grand romantic eddie I was b but realistic.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yeah, you know, brooking Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Oh was that like the ickyest?
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
That we've ever gotten to a second date ever, not
where I.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Wanted things to end, I'll tell you that.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Yeah, but at least we got an answer to why
she was busy.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
And I guess it's clear to Graham what he's walking
into right like, there's no mystery here anymore.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
I don't know if it is really clear, because we
never really asked whether the like situationships know about each
other or how serious they really were with anything.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
She seems pretty blunt, Jeffy, and she.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Seems like she enjoyed. Is it for sure? It's the
one thing that made her smile during that entire call
and get like.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
A weird sexy voice thing.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
How can you not when you're thinking about your harem
of guys waiting for you. But I just have a
feeling our boy Graham is going to be happy settling
for Sunday afternoon hangouts.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Well, he's Sunday boy. Now, he's a posit.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
It might end in a four way marriage if it
goes well enough. Sweet, so good for you, Graham. Keep
us updated. But if you want help with your dating life,
you can always email the show. We'll call that person
who isn't calling you back and go check out all
of our second dates wherever you get your podcasts at
Brook and Jeffrey
Welcome to your brand new Second Date podcast. It's Brooke and.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Jeffrey in the morning, and I gotta say I think
today's Second Date calls for a poll.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
We haven't done a pole mile of course. I think
the poll only works on Spotify to actually click it. Yeah, done.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
But you can just put in your answer wherever else
you're listening. That's on the comments, whether it's on YouTube
or whatever platform you're on, or you can text it
into the number seven eight five nine two. If your
date has something on their face, do you say something
or do you keep it to yourself?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
It depends, honestly, I'd probably wipe it off. Yeah, yeah,
with what with a napkin?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Oh sorry, I'm all excited, all right, let us know,
let us know, and you'll understand why that question here
in just a second.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
But first comments from our lovely Lovely listeners.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Alexis Killer Sheep said, I've been listening since February and
finally caught up with all the episodes in the Second
Date Update podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I'm upgrading to the full show now.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yeah, okay, good. I was gonna say, oh no, you
ran out of stop to listen to.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I mean, that's the thing that people don't understand who
love this podcast is. We actually do an.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Hour long show every day e stink and day we
do a brand new show. So if you want the
full show, you can go over to main our main
feed podcast just look up Brooke and Jefferys that's right there.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Or you can click more like this and I think
it's the first option.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
That's yeah, that's true too. All right, let's get this
second date started.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah, second date up date. Brooke, did you know the
first time that you met your husband Michael that something
was special? Not saying that you knew like you were
going to get married in the first fifteen seconds of
talking to him, but was there anything that happened with
you instantly that lets you know, whoa, there's something real,
(01:44):
like something actually special going on.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
No, I just felt so good around him, and I
was so excited about him.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Okay, you're drunk, so that's probably.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I mean, I did have like five glasses of wine
and make an off color ut I joke.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Okay, well yeah, ey jokes and.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
He still likes me.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Okay, Pet explains it. I mean, I remember the first
time that I met Jose and I noticed his fly
was down and I thought ooh special.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah, he didn't tell me Xyz though.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
No I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
He asked you to put it down further.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Yeah, but you know, we don't talk about this all
the time, about that first ten to fifteen seconds when
you meet your date and something happens inside. That's what
you knows.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
That's real.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Apparently that happened to one of our listeners gram recently,
at least that's what his email said, and we should
learn a little bit more about it. Graham, Welcome to
the show man.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Hey guys, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
I can't wait to hear about this chance meeting. Maybe
it wasn't chance meeting. Whatever the meeting was, it sounds great.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah, So, without getting overly descriptive, how did your body
let you know that this was special?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Well, she didn't ever fly open. I can tell you that.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Oh yeah, dang it.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
So what's her name, by the way, and how did
you meet her?
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Her name is Aura, Aura.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
How did you meet her?
Speaker 4 (03:07):
We met on one of those dating apps and we
decided to meet at a wine bar.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
All right, So going into meeting her at the wine bar,
were you expecting something special?
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Well, you know how you always have your hopes up.
But I knew when I walked in that I was
going to be in so much trouble. Why immediately recognized
me and started from across the room waving both of
her hands over her head like a total door.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Just one of those people like me. She's got no shame.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
And you loved that.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Right, Oh my god. She was just so like effort lived, cute, well, free.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Spirit over there.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Her name's Aura, it comes you know. That's adorable. Yeah,
And it sounds like she was excited to see you.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
It was one of those like initial meetings where in
the first five seconds I was like, oh my god,
this is just like a dream.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
That must be a lot to process, right when you're
first getting to know somebody. So did the feeling where
often just getting to like a normal date after that.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
I mean, I wouldn't say it wore off or it
was normal. It was just I mean there was a
jazz trio playing fine and we were both into jazz music,
and she was like, oh, let's make up names for
the guys, and so you have Sammy Fly guitar playing
and Dennis the drummer, yeahnny, all that kind of stuff.
We were just cracking each other up the whole time.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
You guys were in your own world right exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
And they're already making almost inside jokes with each other,
you know, like just a fun, fun thing.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Now anytime any song goes on the radio, you can
be like, oh yeah, this is my favorite drummer, Yeah
Lington drummers.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I know whatever.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Well, clearly the vibes are there, so keep taking us
through how the rest of the date goes.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
It just kept getting better. I mean, our sense of
like humor was just so like simpatico, I guess to
that word. Like at one point she had like some
lipstick on her front teeth. Huh, So I started like
signaling and rubbing on my own front teeth.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Good, I'm glad you told her.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
And she just looks at me. She goes, what do
you have in a stroke on your teeth? Exactly? I
was just laughing so much and then fun, Oh yeah
it was it went so well, oh my god, this sounds.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Like it Why are you calling us for help? Then, like,
I don't get it. How could this have ended poorly?
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Well, that's the thing, it didn't really end poorly. When
we said goodbye, she just came up to me and
gave me like a really long, tight hug.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Oh that's nice.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Some of those are nice exactly, and she says, we
have to definitely do this again.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Oh that's nice.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Sincere, I texted her twice, one time to see if
she wanted to go out for coffee, the second time
to see if she wanted to go to a trivia night,
because I think she'd be great at that.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Wait, how long did you wait before you texted her?
Was this like thirty minutes after the date or was
this a couple of days?
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I waited two days.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
I think that's too long too.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I think when you have a connection like that with
someone that you just go with it.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
You just follow You got to play the game of waiting. Yeah, day,
that's what blew it that it took too long.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Have you read that on a certain point, you just
got to grab your luggage and move in with her.
It sounds like so connected.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Have you not heard from her at all?
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Well, that's the thing is like when I was texting her,
she did reply, but both times she said that she
was busy, And the worst part was like she didn't
offer an alternative time or date or anything like that.
It was like, well, I'm busy. I can't.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I mean, sometimes these free spirits, they really suck at.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Text outa you know, I mean, Alexis, if you wanted
to see a guy, would you tell him like, I'm
just busy, or you offer up a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I would offer something else. I'd probably over offer. Honestly,
I'd probably mentioned all the times I'm free.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
How many times you do apologize for being busy A lot?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
It is odd that she leaves it at just I'm
busy and no explanation and no other follow up to
it exactly. That could feel like that she's trying to
brush you off. I understand it.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
You guys had such a thing happening.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
It's just hard to imagine she wasn't right there with
you feeling the exact same thing.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Well, maybe it was the fact that you made her
pay for the dinner that night you made I'm just
assuming you.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
No, no, no, I am a proper gentleman. I paid
for everything. Okay, I just need I need you guys
to find out for me, how the hell did I
blow this.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
We're gonna find for you. How do keep it going?
Because I've got faith in this one.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Because we don't even know that you blew it. It could
be something totally unrelated.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I am so excited to get her on the phone.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Let's find out. We're gonna come back call Aura and
try and get you your second date update coming up
right after this. Okay, all right, man, hold on second
date update whenever. I'm stuck on holds with customer service
for four straight hours and the automated message keeps replaying
over and over saying we're busy right now, but don't
(08:18):
go anywhere. Your call's very important to us. We're just busy. Yeah,
I believe them. Oh you do they really really care? Yeah,
I'm not understaffed.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Yeah, not a break somewhere.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
But the thing is, if you're on the other end
of a potential relationship with somebody you really like and
you get too sorry, I'm just busy right now in
a rowse, it's hard not to be a little bit
skeptical and feel like you're being blown off.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Especially when they don't say, hey, press number nine for
a different day to date me up exactly.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
And that's where our listener Graham is. After a really
good date at a jazz bar with a girl named Aura.
He has turned to us because those two busys just
aren't equally a second meetup, and they're not.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Equaling the vibe that they had going when they were
hanging out.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
It just sounds so I can't believe we haven't said
it sooner, but negative our points for her?
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Yeah, Graham, I mean before we call her here, how
you feeling.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
I'm feeling a little nervous, to be honest, But how's
your Aura?
Speaker 1 (09:18):
I mean, I get it, I'm feeling nervous for you.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I mean, you just sound so excited, and I want
this to happen for you.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I think we all do.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Everything sounded so good. I don't want to put this
out there, but it has to be shocking. Like whatever
the excuse is, you're not gonna see like, oh wow,
I didn't think of that. There's nothing that has gone wrong.
We can change that right now. Let let's see if
something went wrong. I'm going to dial her number right now.
Hopefully she picks up the phone. Here we go. Hello, Hey,
(09:54):
is this Aura? Yes, this is a we're a radio show.
We're called Brook and Jeffrey in the morning show. Thanks
for being on with us.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
Uh okay, Hi, I didn't I don't think I signed
up for anything.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, you didn't know, you didn't, but one of our
listeners kind of signed you up for something called a
second Date Update. Okay, So if you're not familiar with that,
it's a segment that we do on our show where
we try to help people who've gone out with somebody
one time but they're not getting that second meetup and
they're not sure why. We can call and try to
(10:34):
figure out if there's a reason for it. Yeah, does
that make sense?
Speaker 6 (10:39):
Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
We know you're really busy, so we won't keep it.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
That's what we've heard. We're really good at these. By
the way, we'll be efficient.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Okay, we'll get through this.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Because we're calling about a guy that you went out
with recently named Graham.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
I'm sorry, I'm like super confused, Like what is this
great question?
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Well, yeah, no, it's the thing is, we spoke to
Graham about your date, and we're trying to figure out
if there's a reason that the two of you haven't
gone out again, because you keep saying to him that
you're busy.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
But not offering any solutions on wind to meet up.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Yeah, I mean, I like I already texted him, Like
I said, I was busy during the times he wanted
to hang out.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I think in his mind, when you say I'm busy,
that's just like it can be a word that people
use to brush somebody off if you're not actually wanting
to see them, but you don't want to come off
as being rude.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
Like I meant what I said, I'm just really busy.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Okay, okay, but there's no way I mean, like, I'm sorry,
we're all really busy. But like when you meet somebody
that you feel like you have this crazy connection with,
you'll make time for them.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
But I'm not like canceling my plans, Like I know
we're not we're.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Not asking you to do that. But he just asked
us to call because it was unclear to him if
you actually wanted to meet up.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
But it's what's unclear.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
I'm saying, Okay, but I am busy, uncle.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
If you like, I'm honestly still unclear whether you actually
like him or not.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
I like him, but like I don't understand why, like
he needs a third party interjecting. I said that I'm free.
I'm just busy during the times he.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Mentioned gotcha, I hear you, and I don't want to
be the third party interjecting whatsoever. In fact, it's just
like weird. Well, no, listen, Graham is actually the one
I want you to talk to. And it's perfect because
he's right here on the other line listening, waiting to jump.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
In or what.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
I'm so confused, like what is happening? What's like? What's
the deal with these like jobbers you hire to like
grow me about us?
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Job said job jobbers?
Speaker 6 (12:50):
I called you jobbers, like I don't know what you
guys like we are?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I okay, you.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Talk to her?
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Yeah I didn't. I didn't hire them. It's just a
radio show, and they, you know, help people get in
touch if they're having trouble getting together.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
So yeah, but like I told you, I was busy
a couple of times, Like don't you think it's a
little extreme to like go in a radio station? And
who honestly, whoever that guy was I've been talking to,
like did not seem prepared at all.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
I don't know what I was talking about. And he
like trying to nail down a gate for you about Jeff.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
That's fine. Sometimes people need a common enemy to come together.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Honestly, I'm with her. I wasn't doing it. That was
pretty crap. I get myself a.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
D or can't you think of this as like a
kind of a romantic gesture, like he really.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Wants to see you and he went to all this effort.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
No, it's super weird chemistry.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I feel like you're angry.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Does this feel like the same person you went out
with Graham?
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Well maybe not a little bit, but you guys have
been kind of grilling. Are pretty hard hard.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah, we can take the fall.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Yeah, no, no, no, that's okay. I mean your intentions
are great, and that's fine.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
I did have some bad intentions when I dialed. I
brought some negative energy into this and that's what fat
that's right. You're so guilty and you shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Be, Laura.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Is there is there anything we can do to come
back from putting you out or making you feel weird?
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Like you keep saying?
Speaker 7 (14:27):
You can stop asking me questions and he can just
ask me out.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
How about that?
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Because I think that's perfect. That's perfect. I'd love to
hang out. And how about this weekend? Are you free
like on Friday?
Speaker 6 (14:42):
I'm busy Friday?
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Okay, keep going, Well, we'll have How about Saturday?
Speaker 7 (14:49):
Then I've got something that day, but like you should,
you probably need to notice.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
But I'm in like two other situationships.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Oh that's why you're okay.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Now you know why she's so busy.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Oh, Graham, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Is that okay with you?
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Graham? Or let me ask you. You said you're already
in two situationships? So really, what does that mean?
Speaker 6 (15:17):
It means a lot of fun.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Do you even have time for me then?
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Or what I'm free Sunday afternoon? Like I can squeeze
you in.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
I'm not really sure if I want to be squeezed
in between two other dudes.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Beggars can't be choosers here, Like you're the one who's
lead to the party, but it's still a party.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
She's clearly not rejecting you, but you're gonna.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
But she's offering you not much.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
Yeah, I'm single, Like I don't have to like.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Kind of you?
Speaker 1 (16:01):
You're kind of single.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I think we're all jealous of you are if anything.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
So, I think, Graham, I don't know, Graham, I feel
like you deserve more than this.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
I don't know. Look, guys, I think I should just
go with my gut and say you only live once.
And let's do it.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
So you're over to a possible third situationship with Aura.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Well, I mean, if the third situationship goes so well,
maybe they'll just turn into a single situationship.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Okay, that's really optimistic for yourself.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
I think that's the point of like dating, Like you're
supposed to try things and see what sticks.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Okay, that's true.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Yeah, well great, Now we're running out of time here.
So I'm just curious though, Aura, if he does go
through with this, does that put him like in the
third seat, like the last place guy, or does he
need to do a trial run? And does he have
to meet the other guys?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Why would they meet the other I.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Don't know how.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
That's so weird.
Speaker 7 (17:01):
No, Okay, if it works out, it works out, and
if it doesn't, we had fun.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Okay, great. I just want to be clear that we're
setting our guy up for success here. So we would
like to offer to send you guys out on a
date and we would pay for it.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
Yeah, I mean, I'm down, thank you.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Not the grand romantic eddie I was b but realistic.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yeah, you know, brooking Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Oh was that like the ickyest?
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
That we've ever gotten to a second date ever, not
where I.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Wanted things to end, I'll tell you that.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Yeah, but at least we got an answer to why
she was busy.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
And I guess it's clear to Graham what he's walking
into right like, there's no mystery here anymore.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
I don't know if it is really clear, because we
never really asked whether the like situationships know about each
other or how serious they really were with anything.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
She seems pretty blunt, Jeffy, and she.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Seems like she enjoyed. Is it for sure? It's the
one thing that made her smile during that entire call
and get like.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
A weird sexy voice thing.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
How can you not when you're thinking about your harem
of guys waiting for you. But I just have a
feeling our boy Graham is going to be happy settling
for Sunday afternoon hangouts.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Well, he's Sunday boy. Now, he's a posit.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
It might end in a four way marriage if it
goes well enough. Sweet, so good for you, Graham. Keep
us updated. But if you want help with your dating life,
you can always email the show. We'll call that person
who isn't calling you back and go check out all
of our second dates wherever you get your podcasts at
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