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October 13, 2025 18 mins

Our listener admits her request during dinner was a little OUT OF BOUNDS. She’s worried it was TOO MUCH for her date to handle, and you can decide for yourself in your Second Date Update podcast!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, welcome to your week. It's Brook and Jeffrey in
the morning with a brand new second Date update. And
this is just one where I constantly am shocked to
what listeners don't tell us. Yeah, you know what I mean. Like,
there are gonna be a lot of thoughts after this.
I know that for sure, so just sit back and enjoy.
We always love to start with your comments.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yeah, this was a little confusing, but David said, found
my wife at the d m V, and boy do
I wish I could return her?

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Lol? Yeah, I didn't know if I was missing the joke. Serious,
that's how long.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
The lines are. This guy got married a whole.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
Front.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
I see, I didn't know you could return things at
the DMV. Yeah, maybe that's where he got confused. What
a romantic Yeah all right, let's get your brand new
second date right now.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
The second date update. Ladies will tell you that men
on the dating apps come in all different forms. Yeah,
you've got the shy boys, the alpha bros, the doggie dads,
the tough and ruthless, and the rough and toothless. Oh yeah,
and most of them all live on a site called

(01:12):
Plenty of Fish, where, coincidentally, that's exactly where our listener
Christine met her date recently.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Did you like the toothless ones too?

Speaker 3 (01:22):
I wonder which category of man he's going to fall into.
But Christine, welcome to the show.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Hello, Hian.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
It's interesting. Plenty of Fish is ridiculed a lot, right.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Not just by people on our show, but just in
the world in general.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
What made you turn to that site?

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Well, I just I didn't really have great luck on
I guess like the other one, Okay, okay, I just
thought I'll give it a shot.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
I've actually never tried Plenty of Fish because everyone's talked
bad about it. I guess go towards it.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Desperation can bring you to do a lot of different
really excited.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
He's like so good. The people on it like talk
badly to keep it up.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah all right, Well tell us you obviously met a guy.
What's his name?

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Luke?

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Okay? And what type of guy is he? On the
dating apps.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Categorizing He is like a rugged guy and like, I'll
build a log cabin with my bare hands.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Log cabin. Rugged guys don't go to private school with
family yachts.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
He bought a log cabin.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
That doesn't it is not a Jeffrey because Jeffrey has
a beer.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
You're sounding very jealous that she actually met a really
tough and rough funny.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Because like, you've never had a callous on your hands.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
So I don't know why I was doing that.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Okay, tell us about Luke, SORRYND.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, so you know, he's very manly, he's very handsome.
I mean, I thought we had a good connection on
our date.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
What'd you guys do? Wait? Hold on, where'd you go?
What'd you do?

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Oh, we went to outback steakhouse, which I love.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Was there like a big highlight moment of the date
for you? That really stands out as the best part
of the night.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
I guess I'll say this. He was an absolute gentleman,
like he held the door open for me, and I
thought it was like flirtatious and I thought we had
good chemistry.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Okay, Well, I mean the vibe that you're describing right
now is very positive. You obviously liked his physicalness. You
say the conversation went really well, hot hands, But what
signals were you getting from Luke towards you or were
you getting any signals at all? What was your read?

Speaker 2 (03:43):
I guess it wasn't like overly like he wasn't. You know,
some people really lay it on sick. I thought he
was just kind of polite, but I mean he was
answering my questions. He had good eye contact.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
With me, kind of like a job interview.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
I didn't think it was that stare.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah, he shuffles the men usual quick. All right, next question.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
There was a point where maybe he thought something I
did was a little weird. I'm not entirely sure.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
I gotta tell him what you do.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
I ordered two entrees, and I don't I don't know
that he liked that.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
I went to a super nice restaurant with my bros recently,
and one of my friends ordered two entrees just because
he's like, I'm never gonna come to this nice restaurant
for a.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Back steakhouse, yeah, Italian where they give you too small
than him out.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
And I also ordered a dessert.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
WHOA, No, maybe he's rude if he's paying and you
order this much.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
I kind of subtly offered to pay, but then he
just he just did.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
How did the night end? Like? Did he say I
can't wait to see you again, or make any indication
that he was thinking about a second date at that point,
so okay.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
So like at the end of the date, I told him, like, hey,
if you're interested, you can because we both drove separately,
so it's like, if you want, you can just follow
me home. We can watch a movie or something and
keep hanging out because I was having a really good time.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Okay, Wow, that's quite the invite. What did he say?

Speaker 2 (05:19):
He kind of just stept like okay, and you like
gave me a hug. So I'm not sure if it's
because I drove too fast and he just couldn't follow me.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
I'm not really so he said yes to going back
and following you to your place, but you sped home.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
I guess it was like halfway into the drive home,
I just looked up and I realized he wasn't there anymore.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Anytime you tell.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Someone to follow you realize I'll slow your friend's drive.
I've done this too. You gotta call him. You're like,
where are you?

Speaker 2 (05:47):
It's like I'm still.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Too like to Yeah, why didn't you just text him
your address or something?

Speaker 2 (05:51):
So I ended up messaging him the next day because
I wasn't sure, like if you purposefully stitched me or or.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
The Okay, was never an actual like I'm following you.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, I wasn't sure, and if he did ditch me,
I didn't want to be like, oh, where are you
right now? So I waited until the next day and
I messaged him and I basically just was kind of like, oh,
I had such a nice time. I'd love to see
you again, but I do want to, like, I don't know,
I just want to like talk to him on the phone.
I just want to like know what happened, because I

(06:24):
was really I was really into him.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
So how are we It sounds like you're really into him.
You just want to hear his voice one more time.
I'll bring you happiness.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
How are we going to call him? If you guys
were only messaging through the app?

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Well, so at that point I didn't have his phone number,
but I have.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
It now, Okay, you had the police look it up
for you.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
How did you get on the app?

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Later?

Speaker 1 (06:45):
After?

Speaker 2 (06:46):
I was like, do you mind if we just text?

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Is that? Okay?

Speaker 2 (06:48):
So I have texted him after, but now he's just
kind of not responding, Okay, Okay, Well that's good.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
That means he doesn't despise you enough.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
To give you It's not gonna be one of our
listeners who loves to do things like really higher private
detectives or something. I'm actually really relieved.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
No, I have a good friend like that, but I'm
not okay.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
All right, will you have your friend be our backup
plan in case we really need to track this? Yeah,
rugged guy down, but we're gonna come back and call
Luke and your plenty of fish Outback Steakhouse. Second Date
Update a limited edition medium rare coming up right after
this Second Date update. One Girl, one boy, three entrees,

(07:39):
forty thousand calories, and somehow zero follow up about a
second date for a meal like that. It's pretty much
what happened when our listener Christine met up with the rugged,
walking mountain of testosterone named Luke over at the Outback Steakhouse.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
And I just want to grunt right now even talking
about it.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
She even gave him the rare offer of you know,
you can follow me home tonight if you want, and
I won't be mad. Well, Christine was obviously very into Luke.
But I'm curious, Christine, what do you have to say
to anyone who might think you came off as a
little bit too eager?

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Well, I'm not interested in someone who thinks I'm too eager.
I want someone who's gonna take me as I am.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
That's a good one. And God, why is being excited
about something bad these days? Be excited. Don't act like
you've been there before. You know, live in the moment.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
I've never seen a woman before in real life. Oh
my goodness.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Hey, you know what, and order the damn too entrees. Yeah,
life short, all right, that's right, it pants, Okay, not that.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
So you remember when I talked about a little bit
too eager, how it comes across. That's exactly what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
I'm ready to call this guy for you, Christine.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
All right, that's the perfect amount of it. All right,
let's just do it. I'm gonna dials number right now.
We'll see if he picks up. And Christine, remember don't
jump in until we call you out and tell him
that you're on the phone.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Okay, oh yeah, okay, all right.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Just try try to hold it in. Here we go.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
Hello, this is Luke WHOA I know.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
I wasn't expecting that.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
His hands just answered the phone.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Luke, this is a radio show. We're called Brook and
Jeffrey in the morning.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
What's going on guys.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
Sorry, man, we know this is weird. Let Jeff explain.
This is a radio show. We're called Brook and Jeffrey
in the Morning, and we're doing a segment called a
second Date Update. Second Date Update there, Sorry about that, okay. Yeah,
So basically, it's a segment where we try to help
out listeners in their dating lives. If they've gone out

(10:00):
with someone and they're not getting a call back for
a second meetup, we can try and reach out on
their behalf to figure out why.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
Okay, I've heard of it.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, okay, and we've heard some good things about you.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Hm.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Was that too eager?

Speaker 3 (10:15):
Nor the tone was a little bit sensual? Yeah, we
heard it from a woman named Christine who you took
to the Outback steakhouse recently and now you're not calling
her back.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
Oh yeah, she knows why.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Actually she doesn't.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
She has no idea why, otherwise she wouldn't be reaching
out to our show to get a hold of you.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
Really, well, you're yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
That's interesting. Obviously, it sounds like it should be pretty apparent.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
Well, when you bring your three kids on the date
and you don't tell the person that you're going on
the date with bringing the third kids.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Well, goodness as Wait, she did not mention she brought children,
or had children, or invited you home to her house
with children.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
Yeah, she has three kids that she brought on the date.
They're like five.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
They were at the table with you, or they were
out waiting in the car. Let's hope not, Jeff, Yes,
this is a good gauge. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
Look, I've been on some dates, and I mean there
was some positives about it, but I wasn't expecting to
pay for all theirs.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Oh well, that's why she ordered the second entree.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
Yeah, I mean it got a little bit weird. I
had to take the younger one to the bathroom.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Oh, she had a stranger take her son to the back.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
Older Yeah, the older kid was being really weird and
wouldn't do it so good for you.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Many questions like how did she even introduce you to
the children like a mom's.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
Friend or what she just you know, said, these are
my kids, kids, these are luke and you know, it's
have fun. And it was. It was different for sure.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
I mean, were they good kids? Are they well behaved kids? Oh?

Speaker 4 (12:14):
Yeah, yeah, no, they were well behaved. I mean except
for when it came to the bathroom. The one was
being a little bit of a brad.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
But yeah, okay, why why would she not tell us that?
Like that is so bizarre.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
It's actually a great question, Brooke, and we should just
ask it directly to Christine, because Luke, you don't know this,
but she's on the other line right now waiting to
jump in and talk to you.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
Wait, what.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
The kids are at school, so it's just us.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
Hello, are you there?

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Hello, Yes, I'm here.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah, you've got some explaining to do. Christine.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Well, look, I didn't tell you guys that I brought
my kids because you didn't have.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
No no, no one asked that ismal.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
That's fair. We probably should be more thorough. Kids on
the dates.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Karids don't bring kids on dates. They don't bring kids
if you're married and on a date. They don't kids
if you're not married and single and on a date
you considered.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Okay, so you've read the rule book on dating with children.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Nothing sexy about being out on a date and having
children there, especially if they're your children and you have
to take care of them.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
You sure are judging her a lot, and we haven't
even heard the reason why. Like maybe there's a totally
logical explanation behind us, right, Christine.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
I just figured if he's gonna date me, he needs
to know all the people that I have in my
life and that are very close to me, who closer
to me than my children. So I just thought it'd
be a good way to just meet us all up front,
and honestly, I mean, look, you handled my three kids
really well. I think I could see us having more.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Whoaa more than three?

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Oh yeah, at least six kids. And as we said,
I only have boys, so nice to get some girls
in there to balance it out.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Wow. Yeah, Luke, she just put it on the table
for you.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
What do you think I did not know she was
sharing to be ocome on, Like, I gotta be honest,
you know. When she invited me back, at first I
was like, okay, but it felt a little weird. And
then on the way there, I was like, what are
we going to do when we get there? You wanted
to watch a movie? We're gonna watch like Mawana or something.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Great he's familiar with. That's a good sign.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah, but I mean I certainly have a lot of
movies to choose from. I just thought it would be
kind of nice to do a family.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
I just think that something you mentioned on a first
date that you have kids, you don't necessarily bring them
on the first date.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
It can't be good for your kids to be part
of your dating life. Hey, they got a nice meal
out of it.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Brother, Fine, I mean.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Alexis, do you like being involved with your mother's dating life? Okay,
well no, but but.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
She's older now. As a five or seven year old,
it would have been really.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Fun of well, I mean, it could have turned out
a lot worse. You know, my two baby daddies. They
were asking what I was up to. I was thinking
about even inviting them.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
No, you said, baby daddy's plural, there's multiple.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah, that's fine.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Yeah, why would.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
You bring them on a date?

Speaker 2 (15:21):
They asked? And they have every right to see their kids,
So I mean, if they want to come by, Wow,
a party.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
Three kids is some baggage, but three kids and two
baby daddies, that's a whole lot of baggage.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
But they do feel it does sound like they all
get along.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
Yeah, we do.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
I get along with the two of them. I don't
get along with the other one though.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
It makes sense.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
Are you're trying to have six kids? By six different guys,
like what's going on?

Speaker 2 (15:48):
This family's really important to me. And look, Luke, I
think you're great. I think you're this like wonderful, traditional
manly guy. I love your big hands. And I just
thought maybe if you're up for it to do a
date with less people and I could just bring like
one kid or something.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Oh yeah, that's a pretty good deal for you, Luke,
because I mean, I get how expensive babysitting is, so
there is that. Yeah, And it sounds, Luke like you
weren't turned off by the fact that she had kids.
It's just that she surprised you with him and you
weren't ready for it. So Luke, hopefully you can forgive
her for her one little mistake of not warning you

(16:24):
about her mistakes warning you, and then we would love
to offer to send you on one more date with her,
a date that we would pay for.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
I'm only going to bring one kid next time. I
won't bring all three. It'll be a much cheaper date.
I think it'll go a lot better.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Wait, which are bringing the bathroom one or the troubled one?
You probably shouldn't bring the bathroom one.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Theems like the good one.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
What do you say, Luke, one more chance.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
I'm gonna have to pass guys. Sorry. Oh wow, Christine,
you're a really sweet girl, and I hope everything works
out for you.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
You're just saying that because his voice is really sexy.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
It is a very sexy voice.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
Jeffrey in the morning. A lot of weirdness in that call,
for sure, But at the end of the day, it was.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
On us because we didn't ask. You brought her three children.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Said, I ordered multiple meals, multiple dinners, and no one
in the room was like, oh, were there other people
at the table with you. No, we all just assumed
she ate it herself because that's exactly what we would do.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Excited, she's like, get a girl, I'm a hungry girl.
I got her on that the three kids. She lost
me on We should.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
Have been more forward and more asking better with our
journalistic abilities, Brooke, you went to college for this.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
The last thing I want to think about when I'm
on a date is kids them. Yes, I don't want
to think about him when you're having a romantic date.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
Okay, but again, I think the point is we can
be better and not have surprises like that. Slam us
in the face. The next time we do a call
like this, all right. It was that was really tragic.
But we do have some good work in our history.
You can go find some of it online, and all
of our podcasts, they're available up wherever you get them.
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