September 10, 2025 • 46 mins
On this week’s episode of Brown Ambition, Mandi dives into the latest jobs report and how the government issued ANOTHER correction that shows we actually added 911,000 FEWER jobs than they calculated last year. That's half as many jobs as they reported. WTF?
She also digs into what the data really says about the state of the economy, especially for Black women. With over 300,000 Black women pushed out of the workforce this year, she breaks down why the numbers don’t always tell the full story and how systemic bias shows up in hiring trends. But it’s not all doom and gloom she highlights industries where jobs are still growing, from healthcare to IT, and offers perspective on pursuing career moves that align with your skills and passion rather than just chasing trends.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
- How to identify your personal “power hours” and use them for your most important goals
- The reality behind the labor market and why Black women are being hit hardest
- Sectors where job opportunities are growing despite the downturn
- How to balance pursuing in-demand fields with staying true to your own career path
- Practical ways to use AI to boost your job search and career strategy
- Why protecting your mental health is just as important as networking and applying
Resources and Links Mentioned:
- Click here to Sign up for Mandi’s free workshop: How to Leverage AI for Your Career – September 25th, 8 p.m. EST
- Join the Brown Ambition Book Club via Patreon:patreon.com/brownambition
- Learn more about the Loveland Foundation: thelovelandfoundation.org
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hey bea fan. Welcome to the show. Welcome to another
episode of Bran Ambition. I am your host, Mandy Money,
and I am so excited to be here with y'all.
It has been a hell of a few weeks. I
have been off my regular schedule. Back to school season
hit me like a ton of bricks, really hit my
son most of all. But you know, things have been
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a little wacky. Kids been sick. Back to school obviously,
everything picks back up the week after Labor Day, so
last week was like very busy, and I'm sure a
lot of y'all can relate. Just trying to get my
head on straight, trying to get the routine back into
a groove. I also have, if you're watching on YouTube,
the wall of my office, which yes I'm in. I'm
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back in my office now. I reclaimed my office, that
was my goal for the summer, finally made it happen.
Is it an empty room with no decoration? Yes? But
is it mine? And is there a door that I
can close? Hell? Yes? So that means my two kiddos
have been moved into. We only have a three bedroom house,
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so this was my original office. But then when I
had done had that baby. Then it became the baby room,
and then it became the baby's room again when I
obviously had my second. But now both boys are big enough,
they're sharing a bunk bed. They love it. They're sleeping
better than ever. I wish we'd done it sooner, but
it's done now. I'm back in my office, so I
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know that, especially for me, there's a lot of goals
that I have for myself, big business goals, big career goals,
big money goals. But as I'm saying that out loud,
I'm like, what a huge achievement it is in an
accomplishment to have two children who are getting long enough
to sleep in the same room, and they're sleeping better
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because they're such buddies. So just quick little huh. Maybe
I'm a little bit good at parenting. I don't know. Shocking,
but if you are watching on YouTube in my new office,
my wall to the left is sort of looking like
you know that show Homeland with Carrie. I almost at
Carrie Underwood. Nope, not Carrie Bradshaw either. I don't know
(02:17):
what it is. Her name, blonde girl, Cia Operative. She's
bipolar and she is constantly creating these walls with like
pictures and sources and leads, and you know, it's like
kind of chaotic. So I'm not bipolar. Shout out to
anyone who is. And on my wall, I have just
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a bunch of sticky notes because my big project is
I have a big ass deadline for my book by
the end of September. My final, final, final manuscript, which
technically was supposed to be due at the end of
April early May this year, but I didn't turn it.
I turned an a manuscript. But yeah, you know how
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sometimes you turn in your work at school and you
know it's not the final product, but you know, you
got to have something turned in. And I turned in
a manuscript and I knew when I turned it in
that it was not in the most polished, it was
not done, But I turned in what I had because
sometimes you just got to turn it in dirty. You
got to do it dirty. You got to do it,
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you know, you got to do it not to your
full expectation, just to get some momentum moving. And then
I had a long, you know, couple of months waiting
for editorial feedback from my publisher, and then I get it,
and of course it's like, yeah, this isn't done. We
need a lot more, a lot more. And basically what's
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happened is I'm determined for this book. It's called Brown Ambition,
by the way, and I am determined for this book
to be more than a personal finance book, more than
you know, more than a career book. I mean all
that is in there. There's plenty of my favorite financial
practices and tips and my you know, biggest career strategies
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for standing out in your career, surviving in this hellscape
of an economy that we're in right now. I know
we all need those strategies, you need those tips, you
need them in one place, and I'm going to deliver them.
But I also have such a wealth of like personal
experiences to share that sort of underline all of the
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strategies and how I actually developed them and how I
know that they can work. And then obviously like client
stories from people that I've coached, women that I've coached
and worked with Mandy moneymakers, and trying to stitch those
two things together has been harder than I thought. So
I am in the process of right now. I've essentially
what I've done is I've written two books on accident.
(04:44):
One book is heavy on the story. One book is
heavy on the Here's what's happened in my career, my
finance is my life. And then here's what's happened in
my client's finances and careers and life. And the other
part is like, here's what you can do, you know,
based on on these experiences. And now I got to
stitch some babies together and I got to make it
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all saying and read. I want it to be a
really good book. So I'm working hard. And obviously my
publisher they're expecting a lot, and I'm expecting a lot
of myself, I really am. So what does this all mean.
It means that I have officially gone back to my
four am wake up call, because I think if you're
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if you're listening right now, and there's something big that
you've been wanting to get done, some big goal you've had,
some big, you know, extra thing that you've wanted to
put on your plate, whether it's starting a side hustle
or you know, a different project to pitch at work,
or just something personal that you've always wanted to do
that you just can't find the time to get done
(05:51):
during the nine to five hours, you know, and you're
just like me, too tired after by nine pm. I mean,
if I'm honest, by like four pm, your girl is done.
I have no more energy. My most valuable time, as
far as the energy and the brain power that I
have to deliver, it's hitting between four am and noon,
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like that's my time to shine. And we're in a
little bit of a danger zone. Ba Fan, I'm recording
this at one pm, so the battery is starting to wane. Na, Na,
I always got a fresh battery pack for a brand ambition.
But do y'all relate to that? Do you have a
certain window of time during the day when you are
like firing on all cylinders. Some of y'all maybe night owls,
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And before I had kids, maybe I was a bit
of a night owl. But I've become one of those
early birds because that's just when I've got the most energy.
It's when I have the most guaranteed quiet in my house.
And this book would not be happening. And I need
you to hear this. If you're a working mom, working
parent listening to this and you have goals of writing
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a book someday, and you know, writing the book for me,
this book is not happening if I am not disciplined
enough to wake my ass up at four am, and
I'm not gonna lie. I don't do it every day.
I share as heck don't. And there's mornings like the
past couple of mornings where I've been like, four am
sounds really early for that alarm clock. Let's do four forty.
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Four forty is almost five. It's basically it's four, but
it's like kind of five by the time I get upstairs,
get I get my tea, my coffee, whatever I need.
So I've been easing into it. And I'm thinking too
of my client, Tiffany. So Tiffany is now not that Tiffany.
This is a Mandy money maker Tiffany. She and I've
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been working together through my VIP coaching like one on
one that I've been offering. By the way, go to
the show notes if you want to apply, because I
have some slots opening for October. But Tiffany's been just
a wonderful, wonderful person to work with. But she and
I both I believe she has been diagnosed with ADHD.
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I am not officially an ADHD diagnos However, I can
relate to so many of the symptoms of you try
to focus on a task and that there's a and
then on the way to doing that task, you find
yourself doing a million other things. And all of a sudden,
it's like I'm holding a rubber chicken in one hand.
Half my head is deep conditioned. You know, i have
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one shoe on my foot, and I'm trying to figure
out what it was that I was looking for in
the fridge. And then that thing that I was trying
to do, which is like get the towels out of
the washing machine, is like, oh wow, I haven't even
done that thing. And you know, I'm living that every day.
And so I was talking to Tiffany and I was like,
the only way that I have found to counteract that,
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not the only way, but one of the ways is
to maximize my time and give my projects, my passions
whatever the most important thing is. And that can shift
day to day, but if it's the most important, high
value that I have to complete, it has to happen
between the hours of four am and twelve pm. It
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can't be after that. So I'm not booking important business
meetings after twelve pm. I'm not trying to record even
the podcast some days after twelve pm, unless I know
I can just hand it on to my editor and
I don't have to do any deep thinking or editing
or planning. I can record the show afternoon, but I
have to do the planning for the show during that
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real deep focused time between four to twelve. So ask
yourself that, Like, if you're in the middle of you
wanted to get a new job right now, and you
know it's like, and believe me, I know how difficult
we're going to talk about it, how difficult the economy is,
and how hard it is to find a new opportunity today.
It takes so much extra work on our part just
to get through that noise, to be submitting applications, to
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be doing the networking, all the things. But if you're
someone like Tiffany was struggling, because you know, she was
telling me, by the time I get through my workday,
I'm crashing and I don't have energy for anything. And
it's like, and I tell myself, I'll do it, you know,
later on, but then it's not happening. And you've got
to be a person in the world. You got to
have interests in hobbies and family and friends. And I
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was just like, well, stop giving your nine to five
the best hours of your life, the best hours of
your brain Pick the hour in your day, and in
her case, there was a specific hour when she's like, Okay,
it's going to be this time in the morning, and
decide that that's your time, Like put a block on
your calendar, put your phone on D and D and decide,
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this is my power hour and it's my time. This
is what I'm going to use my best brain power
to put it into my projects, my goals, my ambitions,
my hopes, my dreams. How are we going to use
that time and give it to ourself? Your job is
going to be fine. And I know black women listening,
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like women of color, like we are sixty percent is
some people's one hundred percent. So I'm not worried. I'm
not worried about your jobs. About you, you know, like
whoa you know so and so is falling behind, Like
what's going on? No, they're going to be just fine.
But we have to be a little bit selfish. We
have to be a little bit selfish and reserve some
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of that, you know, some of our best power hour
for ourselves. Okay, so back to my crazy wall, I
have all these post it notes on here because I
am trying to organize this book and stitch them together
and make it make sense and put together a really
incredible book for y'all and hopefully a lot of people.
So the book process continues on. I hope to have
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more details soon about like how you can become an
early reader, become part of the Brown Ambition Street team,
all that fun stuff. I'm not going to be able
to make this book a success, BA Fan without your help.
There's just no way I'm doing the writing. I'm creating
this thing, this baby of mine, by myself. I'm so
ready to have y'all heal me. I could cry from
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relief at the idea that I no longer have to
be doing this part alone. It's just helping me get
this book baby into the world. So an the Angel's help,
spreading the word, you know, sharing the pre order link,
pre ordering copies, sharing it with your friends, your family,
your church groups, your you know, whatever, the pta, whoever
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you know, and just helping me get the word out
and support the book in all those ways. And that
is coming. That is coming. I feel so much more
excited about that than even the call I had yesterday,
which was talking about the cover of the book, which
honestly felt like kart fully in front of the horse,
because that horse ain't got legs yet. The book is not.
I'm still working on the book. I'm like, the cover
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of what, the cover of what? But we had to
have those conversations, so started talking about the cover yesterday
kind of started to feel I mean, if I'm honest,
I got a little stressed thinking about the cover because
again I'm just like, but wait, the book is not
where I want it to be yet. But the publishing
pipeline has other plans. So that conversation's underway, it all
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goes according to plan. If your girl, I'm gonna be
a big girl and change my alarm to the straight
four am, maybe even three forty five am, so I
give myself time to get my coffee, you know, get
myself together and get into the office. But that four
to eight am it's got to happen if I'm going
to hit that October one deadline and make the book
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as good as I want it to be. So yeah,
book butterflies in full effect. But I want to know
how y'all have been doing. I wish I could hear
you and talk to you. But y'all have been in
my comments and shout out to anyone who's also sent
me news that they think it will be interesting for
me to share during episodes of the podcast. I just
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think that that's so sweet and I think that I
just love it. So if there's ever anything that y'all
see on IG on TikTok, you know, email, email it
to me, DM it to me, maybe I'll talk about
on the show. But just the fact that y'all are
that engaged and you want to share something that you
find interesting with me, I just love it, just the
way I love y'all. Hey, ba fam, we got to
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take a quick break, pay some bills, and we'll be
right back. All right. So my phone was blowing off
the hook on Friday, and I want to talk about why.
A couple of things on Friday we had. This is
the first week of the month, and so we'll typically
see the jobs report come out for the previous month.
And before I get into the well, let me just
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go ahead and say it. It was bleak. It was bleak,
ba fam. The job market is, like I said, a
complete and utter cluster. It is a hellscape it's bad.
And I think the most chilling part of the job
report for me at least, is how drastically it has
misrepresented what's been happening in the job market for months,
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for over a year. Now tell me why. In school, right, like,
we submit an exam and the grade that we get
is the grade that we get the work we turn in.
That's it right, and people are very rigorous about that.
But somehow you can be a whole agency who's tasked
with putting out jobs data and you're just allowed to
get it wrong month after month, and then you have
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to issue these giant corrections and we're just supposed to
be like, oh, well, woops. So what's happened is the
Labor Department In addition to issuing a job's report which
shows a dire situation, only twenty two thousand jobs were
added last month. Unemployment rate is up to four point
three percent, which I honestly want to skip over the
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four point three and just get right to how it's
affecting us, because we know, for damn sure people of
color are seeing much higher unemployment rates than that, and
sure enough, black women unemployment rate is at seven point
five percent. That is of course up from past months.
It's the highest it's been since before COVID, So things
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are not great. But on top of that, the Labor
Department said, oopsie, we are making a huge revision. The
US economy actually added nine hundred and eleven thousand, almost
a million fewer jobs over the past year than we estimated,
over nine hundred thousand jobs that we thought had been
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created and in fact had been being issued in reports.
You know, this report comes out every month and it
can move markets. The Laborer Report is one of those
economic bellwethers that people pay attention to, Voters pay attention
to politicians, you know, lawmakers, business owners were all looking
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to see, okay in terms of the economy and how
we're doing, how are we hiring, and the fact that
there are nearly a million fewer jobs were actually created
than we had been led to. It's just like, what
are we doing here? All these businesses are making decisions
based on these economic data points, and they're just like
what what? And then I'm thinking, you know, when's the
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last time anyone even explained to me how is this
report calculated? Like where is this number even coming from?
And I didn't realize quite how manual. The process is,
this is a survey. This is a survey where the
Department of Labor they have these regional offices, and these
regional offices literally call up business owners on the phone.
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There's obviously an electronic portal where you can, you know,
submit voluntarily submit your numbers. But they call about one
hundred and twenty thousand businesses and government agencies that represent
six hundred and thirty one work sites across the US,
and they ask them how many jobs did you add?
You know, how many have you lost? They gather that data,
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like I'm saying, like manually, then they have to add
it up and all the businesses, like it doesn't line
up between when the data is going to come out
in the news to when all the businesses have the data.
Do like, some of the businesses may not be able
to get their data in on time. They may not
have it, they may not respond to that survey. It's
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still a really good you know, it's a survey. It's
like any other survey. It's a national sample. And I
was sort of thinking that there was some well oiled
I should have known better because federal government is so
slow and clunky, but I had just imagined that there
was some you know, there was some magical electronics system
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that was tracking maybe the irs for example, like tracking
new payroll editions and you know, or people who've switched jobs. Somehow,
I thought it was like more automated than that. But
it's very manual. So the fact that there is so
much room, it's hard to even say it's an error.
It's a miscalculation based on lack of data. So as
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more businesses start to report and start to answer that survey,
like maybe the number of jobs that were added go up,
maybe they go down. But the report comes out once
a month, and it's kind of it's on a routine,
it's on a clock. It's a snapshot of what's going
on in time. But that's why the next month and
the month after and a year later, they're constantly like
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revising their own data to help give us a better picture.
And this may be way too much in the weeds,
and it may not even matter, but I just thought
it was interesting to kind of better understand where this
number is even coming from. The long and short of it, though,
is that it is really tough out there. On top
of that, y'all may have seen this data going around
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that three hundred thousand black women have been ousted from
jobs from February to July. So in the first half
of the year, we've lost three hundred thousand Black women
wiped from the workforce. And the source of this data
is actually a gender economist. Her name is Kadikoi and
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I love you know. I had Anna gifty Opoku Ajima
on the show last week. She just wrote the book
Double Tax, The Double Tax, and of course a lot
of great data is included in that book. And I
love it when the data nerds get their shine. So
I'm loving that Katecharoi. She's been cited as the economist
behind this data, and she's actually taken the time to
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use publicly available data and been curious enough about how
black women are doing in the midst of this, you know,
terrible economy to actually dive deep and find out. So
her data has been on the front page of the
New York Times, It's been covered in Forbes, MSNBC, all
these major platforms. But just digging into what she found,
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she analyzed labor data and found that black women lost
three hundred and nineteen thousand jobs both in the public
and private sectors. Between February and July this year. And
this is the uh the gun punch. The only major
female demographic to experience this much job loss during that
five month period. We're black women. So while we lost
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three hundred and nineteen thousand jobs, white women saw their
jobs go up, saw an increase in jobs of one
hundred and forty two thousand. Hispanic women saw an increase
of one hundred and seventy six thousand jobs over the
same time period. But no one has reigned supreme like
a white man, because white men saw the largest increase
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among all racial engender groups, adding three hundred and sixty
five thousand jobs over the same time period. And now
we've arrived at the oh. That's why. That's why, despite
the stories I'm hearing from and Andy moneymakers, from brown
ambition listeners, obviously, my audience is ninety six percent women
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of color. Of that number, eighty percent are Black women,
about fifteen percent or Hispanic women. And y'all have been
telling me way before this data came out that it
is so hard to find work out here, that we
are losing our jobs, that we're not getting work. I
know y'all have been struggling far longer than other groups.
And now we're kind of seeing why. It's just now
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that we're starting to like the media and you know,
the culture is starting to understand, oh, this is a
tough economy. It's because even like we were the first
group to start feeling the pinch of a tightening economy,
where the first group, you know, that's going to be
where bias is going to work against us in job
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interviews and in hiring. So of course we start disappearing
from the workforce. I think Katika herself calls us like
the Canarian the coal mine, which is such a dark
metaphor but also effective. And then you hear, you know,
while I'm experiencing what I'm experiencing from hearing y'all stories,
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and then you read the media headlines, and you know,
you listen to politicians talk about things, and it's like, oh,
but things are fine. Largely, the economy is strong. Largely,
the labor force is great, you know, compared, But what's
happening is like black women as a microcosm, like as
a segment of the workforce, like we are struggling. And
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Katako was the first one to give a damn. And
I'm so glad that she did to give a damn
in this way and to draw attention to it. And
I you know, I think also she's had a lot
of support from other black women in media who are like, no,
we need to make we need to make people pay
attention to data like this, make them care because this
should scare everybody, you know, because what's coming for us.
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We'll eventually get to them, so we'll see we're the
first to suffer, but we'll see what numbers look like
for these other groups in the future. But yeah, I
want to shout out to Catechor Roy. I'm hoping to
have her on the show sometime soon to talk about
her work as a gender economist and see what other signs,
you know, in the economy, what could be voting for
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black women in this economy? Are there any signs of
hope out there? Okay, So speaking of hope, let's talk
about some sectors of the economy where they're actually are jobs. Okay,
So if you're there right now, you're unemployed, or you're
recently let go, or you're wanting to leave your job,
you're looking to switch career paths. Okay, what sectors are
actually hiring healthcare, baby healthcare, and social assistance. So this
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sector has the highest number of job openings right now,
with over a million job openings, so there's an increased
demand for medical professionals, social workers, and support staff. Shout
out to my cousin who's been on the show before.
You'll know her a little bit of her career journey.
She actually just got a great job working for a
major hospital where we live here in Westchester outside of
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New York City, And yeah, I was really proud of
her and excited, and I was like, yep, that makes sense.
She's been interviewing for a while, and of course, like
a healthcare job is the one that ended up working
out in the end. We also have professional and business
services with over one point three million openings and jobs,
and management, consulting, tech and operational support. So even though,
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of course, you know we've seen finance and tech have layoffs,
there's still opportunities in those spaces. Leisure and hospitality has
a million openings in career paths like food services and accommodations.
Travel and dining are apparently rebounding. I don't know how
because like with what money are people traveling and dining?
But sure but also trade, transportation and warehousing. More than
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a million roles available, boosted by the growth in e commerce,
retail and logistics, and then information tech so it there's
about two hundred thousand openings, so that includes software development,
IT support, data roles also among the fastest growing sectors.
I wonder where cybersecurity kind of fits into that. Maybe
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it's all under the umbrella of it, but that's where
some of the hope is. So if you're listening to
this and you're trying to strategize for your next career move,
I maybe that started to help you, you know, think
of some ideas on where to go next. I do
feel like and I'm having a hard time maybe articulating this,
but I have been thinking as I'm talking to women.
This has come up ever since i started to coach.
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You know, you'll you'll talk to women who are like,
I really want to become a project manager because that
seems to be the trending thing. And now I'm hearing
a lot of cybersecurity because that seems to be the
trending thing. But I'm one question to ask yourself is like,
do you actually want to do that? And it's not
because you can't, Like I do believe obviously, like you
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can learn the skill, you can do the job, and
we're and of course you should go after an industry.
It makes sense right to go after an industry that's
actually growing and all of that. But I wonder too, like,
because it's so competitive right now, if there's not a
real interest and experience and passion for the work, and
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if you can't get really motivated about it other than
just I need a job, I need to like pay
the bills. I just feel like there's as it can
be really challenging to break into that space. So I
wouldn't force yourself into a career path just because you
think it's, you know, what the economy is favoring right now.
Just because there's not maybe the most jobs and maybe
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the career path that you've chosen doesn't mean that it's
still not a viable one. And I just don't want
us to be chasing these like trends so much. I
think it's better to like take a step back. And
I'm working on this in the book as well, just
trying to like because it's hard to say it in
just a couple of minutes on a podcast, but trying
to take a step back and just look at the
full career trajectory so that you're more in control of
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your career path and you're not like constantly feeling yourself
go jerked in this side and that side by what's
happening in the economy. The only thing that's certain about
the economy is that it's going to have its ups
and downs. I don't like the idea of us being
punted from one side to the next in the economy.
I want us to build some career stability for ourselves,
and I think that comes from really owning the overall
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career path and owning, you know, this is what I'm
you know, specializing, this is what I'm great at, and
here's how I can stay rooted in my own skill set,
you know, in my own interests and what I bring
to the table, and adapt, of course, you know, adapt
to the changing economy, but not feeling like we need
to have a complete career, you know, one eighty and
(28:25):
up end everything every few years when there's another one
of these like economic you know, upturns, downturns, whatever it
may be. So I'm working on that. But if that
resonates with you or you're even if that pissed you
off what I just said. I want to hear from
y'all because I want to hear what you're thinking and
understand sort of like what the approach is. And if
you're someone who has successfully pivoted into an IT role,
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into a healthcare role, into cybersecurity, I also would love
to hear from y'all. Would you email me or DM me.
You can DM me at Mandy Money, you can DM
me at Brand Ambission Podcast. You can email me at
Brandambis podcast at gmail dot com. Like, please talk to me.
I want to know. I want to know how you
did it. I want to know what was successful about it,
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and I'm just really, really curious. So I'd love to
hear from y'all. It can be anonymous. I'm not going
to talk about you on the show, but I just
would love to hear those stories. And this is a
really good time for me to tell y'all. Mark your calendars.
September twenty fifth, at eight pm Eastern. I have not
done a webinar in a very long time. As you know,
my signature, Nail your Negotiation Webinar was the webinar I
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did all the time for the past couple of years,
I wanted to create a webinar that felt urgent and
necessary for today's economy, and so I have come up
with and again thanks to Mandy Moneymaker Tiffany for the
little nudge in the right direction, I have come up
with a workshop, and we're going to talk about how
to leverage AI. That's right. I am not making AI
(29:56):
the enemy. AI as our friend. We're going to learn
how to harness it. I'm doing a free virtual workshop
September twenty fifth at eight pm on how to use
AI to boost your career strategy. So save the date,
September twenty fifth, eight pm Eastern Central. There's a sign
up RSVP link spots are limited. Sign up is in
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the show notes right now, so you can go check
that out. I hope to see y'all there. I'm not
just going to be talking about how to put your
resume into chat GPD and get advice on bullet points.
Y'all know I am not the resume girl. I don't
spend a lot of time there. I'm talking about how
to use AI to develop a winning career strategy, how
to use it to take the pain out of networking,
(30:38):
how to use it to take the pain out of
searching for new opportunities. So we're going to cover all
the tips and tricks and strategies that I have been
working on and seeing in the clients that I'm working with,
and hopefully what you walk away from this webinar feeling
is empowered to do what I said, to take control
of your overall career strategy, and certainly to demystify AI.
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Because listen, I'm sure maybe if you've dabbled with chat Gypt,
you've dabbled with perplexity, the claud like these different tools,
but there's so many of them now and you may
even feel like, well, what if this AI takes my
job someday? Well, let's actually look AI in the face.
Let's I'm going to make it very very easy for
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beginners to understand how to use the tools, and you
can actually like, have some help getting used to it,
have some you know, someone to guide you so that
maybe it's not as intimidating. And I want you to
feel empowered. I want you to be more productive. I
want you to save time because you understand how to
use AI to your benefit, and at the same time,
because you're learning these AI skills softwarees tools. You're learning
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how to how to leverage these. It's going to make
you a more attractive candidate for the job that you want.
I don't care what job it is. AI is somehow
going to be involved in your job coming up real soon,
if not already, So this can only help you, right, So,
I'm hoping that I'll see you again. Save the date
for September twenty fifth at eight pm. We are going
to learn how to use AI tools and software to
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boost our career strategy, get the jobs we want, get
the pay that we want, and at least, at the
very least, feel inspired and feel ready to take on
this rapidly changing economy and rapidly declining job market. All right, Vafa,
I'm going to take a little bit of a break.
I'll be right back after we pay some bills. Welcome
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back via FAM. I want to get into some happy news. I,
as you know, have been doing the Brand Ambition book
Club for some time now. We've had two official book
club selections. I'm in the market for number three. I'm
narrowing it down to a couple. I'd love y'all to
offer some feedback. All you have to do to join
the book Club, by the way, is just be a
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member of the broad Ambition Patreon and free membership gets
you access to the book club. You do not have
to pay to be a Patreon, although if you want
to pay, you'll get some perks, like you'll get invites
to join us and during live tapings of the show
when we have the Brown Table together, you'll also get
AD free viewing of video episodes, so you don't have
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to watch on YouTube and sit through all those ads.
You can just come to the Patreon and watch at
your leisure, get your wash day woosaws, your Brown Tables,
your baqas ad free. So yeah, ba book Club, there's
some contenders. So I'm actually so I'll let you in
on my thought process. So I'm a little self conscious
(33:33):
because I know my first two book Club selections happen
to be written by authors by black mail authors rather
blackmail authors. So we had c Bo Campbell, my guy
love that Sky Full of Elephants. We also had Clarence Haynes,
who wrote the Ghost of Gwendolyn Montgomery and I am
done with that. Okay, we need to pick a woman
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of color, and I have been looking. I really wanted
to be a nonfiction, something inspirational, something we're tied to,
maybe business or career, kind of getting back to the
basics when it comes to what Brown Ambition is really
here to do, which is all about financial and career
empowerment and a couple of options. So Issa Ray has
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a new audio book that was just released and it's
an audible only original, so there is no physical book.
And I know that a lot of the girls like
we're listening to audiobooks anyway. But it's a book of essays.
It's three hours long about and it looks really good.
And I started to listen to it, and y'all know,
I love me some Lisa. Who doesn't love some Lisa.
(34:36):
I've been trying to get her on the show, but
damn it, of her people will not respond to me.
And you know, fairy game, fairy game, she had a
busy girl. But Lisa's new audiobook it's called I Should
be Smarter by Now, and it gets into it's personal essays,
so she's reading her personal stories that she's written, so
I know it's going to be good. I loved Misadventures
(34:56):
of an Awkward Black Girl that came out with her
first first memoir sort of book book of essays that
came out god, maybe ten years ago. Now it's been
a while. So there's that. And then another brilliant woman,
Uzo Aduba, has a new memoir coming out. The Road
is Good, How a mother's strength became a daughter's purpose.
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So she revealed the cover and it is just stunning.
And while she was writing this book, Uzo her mother
was fighting cancer and unfortunately succumb to her battle with cancer.
And I know, as Uzo as a new mommy, as
a working artist, like, I just know that this book
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is going to be powerful. So I'm waiting to get
my copy. I'm thinking about that. And there's a third
so these are each different. So we had, like the
nonfiction essay of is of Fray, we have the inspirational
memoir from Uzu Aduba. My third option is a novel
that I got the opportunity to read in advance. Yea
to being podcast producer, people will send you books in advance.
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This book is called Who Knows You by Heart? And
you know, as I'm saying it, it's another book that
has a beautiful black female, not even beautiful, but a
black female, strong black female character, a Jamaican American black
female character at its heart, and she's the main protagonist
in the story, but written by a black guy author.
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I don't know what I'm going to do about that, Guys?
Is it okay? I mean, in both cases my first
picks of the book club, sky Full of Elephants and
the Ghost of Gwendela Montgomery, they each featured main protagonists
who are women of color, black women. So you know
who knows You by Heart also has a black woman protagonist.
Just has you written by a black author? Regardless. I'm
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getting that, I've gotten the author c J. Fartley. He's
coming on this show to talk about the book, so
that's very exciting. But I really enjoyed that book. It's
not out until November. Of course, you can pre order
it now, and why the hell just go ahead and
pre order? Why not go ahead and pre order it
because I it was a page turner And basically what
you're learning is a story of this this young black woman,
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modern day Silicon Valley type vibe. She works in big
tech and she's a coder, and she's a little bit
of like a like a rebel as a coder. I
don't know, she's doing her own thing, and she actually
gets hired by like I couldn't tell. Is this company
supposed to be like a Tesla or like an audible,
Like I don't know. It's a big, big tech company.
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And she kind of finds herself getting swept up in
the AI revolution and think she's in control of it.
And I don't want to give too much away, but
it's a bit of a thriller. It's thriller ish. It's
very thought for provoking. It's very like chilling, kind of
makes you want to unplug every device that you ever
(37:52):
have connected to the Internet and scrape all of your
data like in a way. But I just thought it
was very thought provoking. And he also tackles head on
and I think he really captures what it's like to
be a black woman, specifically in tech in modern America.
So the fact that in this guy, come to find out,
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the author like he used to work in tech. He
was like an executive at some big tech company. I
forget which one. So he gets it. He talks about
how she's sort of like really working there because she
has a bunch of debt to pay off after her
mom has passed away. As a personal finance girl, I
love a plot point that includes reverse mortgages because how
like nerdy and dorky is that, But I love it
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we get into that. But anyway, she's broke and she
has to be working, and so for her, it's like,
I need a big fat tech job. I need to
get some of them golden handcuffs. Give me those RSUs
and you see how you know, the company uses those
golden handcuffs to you know, keep her trapped, kind of
keep her coming back. And at the same time, she's
encountering the ergs that are you know, the women in
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tech erg and the feminist, feminist white woman leader who
really wants to you know, take her under her wing
and all that shit, and at the same time, like
is keeping tabs on the microaggressions that she's facing day
to day working. So at the same time, it's telling
a really compelling story that I don't think I've seen
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in a novel recently and certainly not in film and television,
but telling the story of a really cool, interesting, unique
black female character, but in the backdrop of like what
it's like being a black woman working in tech today.
Thought he really did a good job. So we'll I
gonna see. But those are my three ideas. Right now,
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there's another I'm trying to avoid, like super prescriptive like business,
how to be a leader, how to launch of business
type books. I'm trying to find books that evoke a
sense of delight, inspiration, optimism, and yes, make us think
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about career and about finances. But it's me again trying
to take us out of like the rigidity of you know,
learning the how to's and all of that, and just
like embracing the power of really good storytelling that bring
us closer to those subjects, but don't like beat us
over the head with them, do you know what I mean?
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So it could be a novel, it could be memoir,
it could be nonfiction. But the Brown Ambition Book Club
at its heart is when we're reading these books, I
want us to feel empowered and inspired and open us
up to conversations about what it's actually like living in
our skin, in our bodies as women, black women, women
of color, in this world, in this healthscape. Is it
(40:46):
too much to say it's a healthcape? I don't know that.
That expression kind of makes me chuckle, But we gotta
we gotta laugh so we don't cry. But those are
my That's what I'm thinking about. Now. If you're on
the patreon, I need your feet. I need you to
come with your ideas. So again, check out the patreon.
It's patreon dot com slash Brown Ambition, or you can
(41:06):
go to the show notes to get the link to
the patreon. Is it dot co or dot com girl,
I don't know. Check the show notes, but we're Brian
Ambition there. Join the patreon again, completely free to join,
and you can weigh in on our next book club
selection and let me know if I'm on the right track.
So yeah, but I've really been loving it so far
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and I appreciate everyone who's been a part of it.
So thank y'all. Okay, now we have come to the
time to do Brown Boost, Brown Break for this week.
I am going to bring it all back to the
beginning of the show. I spent a lot of time
at the top of the show talking about the job market.
We talked about the three hundred plus thousand black women
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who lost their jobs in the first half of the year.
I want to talk about or give a boost to
a black woman who's actually doing something about it, to
my friend Dysha Dyer, who has been on the show before. Remember,
she's the author of the book Undiplomatic. She was the
Social secretary at the White House during the Obama administration,
and Desha in light of the statistic that came out
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showing that three hundred thousand black women have left or
have lost their jobs, she actually created and created a
fundraiser and raised twenty five thousand dollars in partnership with
the Loveland Foundation to offer free therapy to black women
who have been who have been let go or lost
their jobs this year. So I love Udisha, and I
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just think this is incredible and it's very inspiring because
twenty five thousand dollars, I mean, it's not millions, right,
but she has enabled dozens hundreds of women to get
free access to a therapy session. And if there's one
thing that is overwhelming to me about being a career
coach at a time like this is how so much
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of the challenge becomes mental, you know, becomes about keeping
ourselves mentally healthy to endure the challenges of today's job market.
And I am not a licensed mental health expert. I'm
not a therapist, I'm not a social worker. I'm none
of those things. And I've never said I was, so
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we still value and love our mental health care workers.
At the same time, it's expensive and when you've lost
your job, you know what you don't have in this
god forsaken country is health insurance a lot of the times.
And if you do have it, will it actually cover
the services of all mental health professionals. No, the one
that may be the right one for you maybe out
(43:38):
of network, or may have a really high copay, or
you may have a high deductible. So the fact that
Disha's done this fundraiser and she's raised this money for
black women to get mental health support, it's just incredible
and it's a little bit of bright, happy news that
I wanted to end the show on. So shout out
to Desha and to anyone listening if you haven't checked
out the Loveland Foundation. They do incredible will work. The
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Loveland Foundation was founded by Rachel Cargole. This was back
in twenty eighteen. She wanted to raise over two hundred
and fifty thousand dollars to provide therapy for black women
and girls, and since then, the Loveland Foundation has continued
her effort so to helping to bring opportunity and healing
to communities of color, especially black women and non binary individuals,
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through fellowships, residency programs, listening tours, and more So. Check
out the Loveland Foundation and yeah, check out Dshit Go
follow her on ig follow all her work. Okaya, fam,
I'm going to call that a wrap. Stay tuned this week.
On Friday, I'm back with an episode of the Baqa
and then we have our Wash Day WUSA coming up
(44:45):
this Sunday. I'm going to be sitting down with Ebanie
k Williams, who, if you recall, was the first black
woman to ever be a real housewife of New York.
So Ebanie and I talk about her career as an attorney,
and she's now posting her court TV show called Equal
Justice with Judge Ebedy k Williams. Check that out. We
(45:07):
had a really fun conversation. That'll be the Wash Day
WUSAW for this Sunday. All right, va, fam, please hang
in there, lean on one another for support. Don't believe
everything you think. That's another good book that could be
a book club selection. I highly recommend it. Don't believe
everything you think. Take care of here, take care of here,
(45:27):
and take care of each other. Sending you lots and
lots of love. Thank you so much. Bye okay va fam,
thank you so much for listening to this week's show.
I want to shout out to our production team, Courtney,
our editor, Carla, our fearless leader for idea to launch productions.
I want to shout out my assistant Lauda Escalante and
(45:50):
Cameron McNair for helping me put the show together. It
is not a one person project, as much as I
have tried to make it so these past ten years.
I need help, y'all, and thank goodness I've been able
to put this team around me to support me on
this journey. And to y'all, Ba Fam, I love you
so so so so much. Please rate, review, subscribe, Make
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BA buye
Hey bea fan. Welcome to the show. Welcome to another
episode of Bran Ambition. I am your host, Mandy Money,
and I am so excited to be here with y'all.
It has been a hell of a few weeks. I
have been off my regular schedule. Back to school season
hit me like a ton of bricks, really hit my
son most of all. But you know, things have been
(00:28):
a little wacky. Kids been sick. Back to school obviously,
everything picks back up the week after Labor Day, so
last week was like very busy, and I'm sure a
lot of y'all can relate. Just trying to get my
head on straight, trying to get the routine back into
a groove. I also have, if you're watching on YouTube,
the wall of my office, which yes I'm in. I'm
(00:51):
back in my office now. I reclaimed my office, that
was my goal for the summer, finally made it happen.
Is it an empty room with no decoration? Yes? But
is it mine? And is there a door that I
can close? Hell? Yes? So that means my two kiddos
have been moved into. We only have a three bedroom house,
(01:11):
so this was my original office. But then when I
had done had that baby. Then it became the baby room,
and then it became the baby's room again when I
obviously had my second. But now both boys are big enough,
they're sharing a bunk bed. They love it. They're sleeping
better than ever. I wish we'd done it sooner, but
it's done now. I'm back in my office, so I
(01:33):
know that, especially for me, there's a lot of goals
that I have for myself, big business goals, big career goals,
big money goals. But as I'm saying that out loud,
I'm like, what a huge achievement it is in an
accomplishment to have two children who are getting long enough
to sleep in the same room, and they're sleeping better
(01:53):
because they're such buddies. So just quick little huh. Maybe
I'm a little bit good at parenting. I don't know. Shocking,
but if you are watching on YouTube in my new office,
my wall to the left is sort of looking like
you know that show Homeland with Carrie. I almost at
Carrie Underwood. Nope, not Carrie Bradshaw either. I don't know
(02:17):
what it is. Her name, blonde girl, Cia Operative. She's
bipolar and she is constantly creating these walls with like
pictures and sources and leads, and you know, it's like
kind of chaotic. So I'm not bipolar. Shout out to
anyone who is. And on my wall, I have just
(02:39):
a bunch of sticky notes because my big project is
I have a big ass deadline for my book by
the end of September. My final, final, final manuscript, which
technically was supposed to be due at the end of
April early May this year, but I didn't turn it.
I turned an a manuscript. But yeah, you know how
(02:59):
sometimes you turn in your work at school and you
know it's not the final product, but you know, you
got to have something turned in. And I turned in
a manuscript and I knew when I turned it in
that it was not in the most polished, it was
not done, But I turned in what I had because
sometimes you just got to turn it in dirty. You
got to do it dirty. You got to do it,
(03:19):
you know, you got to do it not to your
full expectation, just to get some momentum moving. And then
I had a long, you know, couple of months waiting
for editorial feedback from my publisher, and then I get it,
and of course it's like, yeah, this isn't done. We
need a lot more, a lot more. And basically what's
(03:39):
happened is I'm determined for this book. It's called Brown Ambition,
by the way, and I am determined for this book
to be more than a personal finance book, more than
you know, more than a career book. I mean all
that is in there. There's plenty of my favorite financial
practices and tips and my you know, biggest career strategies
(04:03):
for standing out in your career, surviving in this hellscape
of an economy that we're in right now. I know
we all need those strategies, you need those tips, you
need them in one place, and I'm going to deliver them.
But I also have such a wealth of like personal
experiences to share that sort of underline all of the
(04:23):
strategies and how I actually developed them and how I
know that they can work. And then obviously like client
stories from people that I've coached, women that I've coached
and worked with Mandy moneymakers, and trying to stitch those
two things together has been harder than I thought. So
I am in the process of right now. I've essentially
what I've done is I've written two books on accident.
(04:44):
One book is heavy on the story. One book is
heavy on the Here's what's happened in my career, my
finance is my life. And then here's what's happened in
my client's finances and careers and life. And the other
part is like, here's what you can do, you know,
based on on these experiences. And now I got to
stitch some babies together and I got to make it
(05:06):
all saying and read. I want it to be a
really good book. So I'm working hard. And obviously my
publisher they're expecting a lot, and I'm expecting a lot
of myself, I really am. So what does this all mean.
It means that I have officially gone back to my
four am wake up call, because I think if you're
(05:29):
if you're listening right now, and there's something big that
you've been wanting to get done, some big goal you've had,
some big, you know, extra thing that you've wanted to
put on your plate, whether it's starting a side hustle
or you know, a different project to pitch at work,
or just something personal that you've always wanted to do
that you just can't find the time to get done
(05:51):
during the nine to five hours, you know, and you're
just like me, too tired after by nine pm. I mean,
if I'm honest, by like four pm, your girl is done.
I have no more energy. My most valuable time, as
far as the energy and the brain power that I
have to deliver, it's hitting between four am and noon,
(06:14):
like that's my time to shine. And we're in a
little bit of a danger zone. Ba Fan, I'm recording
this at one pm, so the battery is starting to wane. Na, Na,
I always got a fresh battery pack for a brand ambition.
But do y'all relate to that? Do you have a
certain window of time during the day when you are
like firing on all cylinders. Some of y'all maybe night owls,
(06:36):
And before I had kids, maybe I was a bit
of a night owl. But I've become one of those
early birds because that's just when I've got the most energy.
It's when I have the most guaranteed quiet in my house.
And this book would not be happening. And I need
you to hear this. If you're a working mom, working
parent listening to this and you have goals of writing
(06:57):
a book someday, and you know, writing the book for me,
this book is not happening if I am not disciplined
enough to wake my ass up at four am, and
I'm not gonna lie. I don't do it every day.
I share as heck don't. And there's mornings like the
past couple of mornings where I've been like, four am
sounds really early for that alarm clock. Let's do four forty.
(07:19):
Four forty is almost five. It's basically it's four, but
it's like kind of five by the time I get upstairs,
get I get my tea, my coffee, whatever I need.
So I've been easing into it. And I'm thinking too
of my client, Tiffany. So Tiffany is now not that Tiffany.
This is a Mandy money maker Tiffany. She and I've
(07:41):
been working together through my VIP coaching like one on
one that I've been offering. By the way, go to
the show notes if you want to apply, because I
have some slots opening for October. But Tiffany's been just
a wonderful, wonderful person to work with. But she and
I both I believe she has been diagnosed with ADHD.
(08:02):
I am not officially an ADHD diagnos However, I can
relate to so many of the symptoms of you try
to focus on a task and that there's a and
then on the way to doing that task, you find
yourself doing a million other things. And all of a sudden,
it's like I'm holding a rubber chicken in one hand.
Half my head is deep conditioned. You know, i have
(08:23):
one shoe on my foot, and I'm trying to figure
out what it was that I was looking for in
the fridge. And then that thing that I was trying
to do, which is like get the towels out of
the washing machine, is like, oh wow, I haven't even
done that thing. And you know, I'm living that every day.
And so I was talking to Tiffany and I was like,
the only way that I have found to counteract that,
(08:45):
not the only way, but one of the ways is
to maximize my time and give my projects, my passions
whatever the most important thing is. And that can shift
day to day, but if it's the most important, high
value that I have to complete, it has to happen
between the hours of four am and twelve pm. It
(09:05):
can't be after that. So I'm not booking important business
meetings after twelve pm. I'm not trying to record even
the podcast some days after twelve pm, unless I know
I can just hand it on to my editor and
I don't have to do any deep thinking or editing
or planning. I can record the show afternoon, but I
have to do the planning for the show during that
(09:28):
real deep focused time between four to twelve. So ask
yourself that, Like, if you're in the middle of you
wanted to get a new job right now, and you
know it's like, and believe me, I know how difficult
we're going to talk about it, how difficult the economy is,
and how hard it is to find a new opportunity today.
It takes so much extra work on our part just
to get through that noise, to be submitting applications, to
(09:49):
be doing the networking, all the things. But if you're
someone like Tiffany was struggling, because you know, she was
telling me, by the time I get through my workday,
I'm crashing and I don't have energy for anything. And
it's like, and I tell myself, I'll do it, you know,
later on, but then it's not happening. And you've got
to be a person in the world. You got to
have interests in hobbies and family and friends. And I
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was just like, well, stop giving your nine to five
the best hours of your life, the best hours of
your brain Pick the hour in your day, and in
her case, there was a specific hour when she's like, Okay,
it's going to be this time in the morning, and
decide that that's your time, Like put a block on
your calendar, put your phone on D and D and decide,
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this is my power hour and it's my time. This
is what I'm going to use my best brain power
to put it into my projects, my goals, my ambitions,
my hopes, my dreams. How are we going to use
that time and give it to ourself? Your job is
going to be fine. And I know black women listening,
(10:54):
like women of color, like we are sixty percent is
some people's one hundred percent. So I'm not worried. I'm
not worried about your jobs. About you, you know, like
whoa you know so and so is falling behind, Like
what's going on? No, they're going to be just fine.
But we have to be a little bit selfish. We
have to be a little bit selfish and reserve some
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of that, you know, some of our best power hour
for ourselves. Okay, so back to my crazy wall, I
have all these post it notes on here because I
am trying to organize this book and stitch them together
and make it make sense and put together a really
incredible book for y'all and hopefully a lot of people.
So the book process continues on. I hope to have
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more details soon about like how you can become an
early reader, become part of the Brown Ambition Street team,
all that fun stuff. I'm not going to be able
to make this book a success, BA Fan without your help.
There's just no way I'm doing the writing. I'm creating
this thing, this baby of mine, by myself. I'm so
ready to have y'all heal me. I could cry from
(12:01):
relief at the idea that I no longer have to
be doing this part alone. It's just helping me get
this book baby into the world. So an the Angel's help,
spreading the word, you know, sharing the pre order link,
pre ordering copies, sharing it with your friends, your family,
your church groups, your you know, whatever, the pta, whoever
(12:23):
you know, and just helping me get the word out
and support the book in all those ways. And that
is coming. That is coming. I feel so much more
excited about that than even the call I had yesterday,
which was talking about the cover of the book, which
honestly felt like kart fully in front of the horse,
because that horse ain't got legs yet. The book is not.
I'm still working on the book. I'm like, the cover
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of what, the cover of what? But we had to
have those conversations, so started talking about the cover yesterday
kind of started to feel I mean, if I'm honest,
I got a little stressed thinking about the cover because
again I'm just like, but wait, the book is not
where I want it to be yet. But the publishing
pipeline has other plans. So that conversation's underway, it all
(13:05):
goes according to plan. If your girl, I'm gonna be
a big girl and change my alarm to the straight
four am, maybe even three forty five am, so I
give myself time to get my coffee, you know, get
myself together and get into the office. But that four
to eight am it's got to happen if I'm going
to hit that October one deadline and make the book
(13:26):
as good as I want it to be. So yeah,
book butterflies in full effect. But I want to know
how y'all have been doing. I wish I could hear
you and talk to you. But y'all have been in
my comments and shout out to anyone who's also sent
me news that they think it will be interesting for
me to share during episodes of the podcast. I just
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think that that's so sweet and I think that I
just love it. So if there's ever anything that y'all
see on IG on TikTok, you know, email, email it
to me, DM it to me, maybe I'll talk about
on the show. But just the fact that y'all are
that engaged and you want to share something that you
find interesting with me, I just love it, just the
way I love y'all. Hey, ba fam, we got to
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take a quick break, pay some bills, and we'll be
right back. All right. So my phone was blowing off
the hook on Friday, and I want to talk about why.
A couple of things on Friday we had. This is
the first week of the month, and so we'll typically
see the jobs report come out for the previous month.
And before I get into the well, let me just
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go ahead and say it. It was bleak. It was bleak,
ba fam. The job market is, like I said, a
complete and utter cluster. It is a hellscape it's bad.
And I think the most chilling part of the job
report for me at least, is how drastically it has
misrepresented what's been happening in the job market for months,
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for over a year. Now tell me why. In school, right, like,
we submit an exam and the grade that we get
is the grade that we get the work we turn in.
That's it right, and people are very rigorous about that.
But somehow you can be a whole agency who's tasked
with putting out jobs data and you're just allowed to
get it wrong month after month, and then you have
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to issue these giant corrections and we're just supposed to
be like, oh, well, woops. So what's happened is the
Labor Department In addition to issuing a job's report which
shows a dire situation, only twenty two thousand jobs were
added last month. Unemployment rate is up to four point
three percent, which I honestly want to skip over the
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four point three and just get right to how it's
affecting us, because we know, for damn sure people of
color are seeing much higher unemployment rates than that, and
sure enough, black women unemployment rate is at seven point
five percent. That is of course up from past months.
It's the highest it's been since before COVID, So things
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are not great. But on top of that, the Labor
Department said, oopsie, we are making a huge revision. The
US economy actually added nine hundred and eleven thousand, almost
a million fewer jobs over the past year than we estimated,
over nine hundred thousand jobs that we thought had been
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created and in fact had been being issued in reports.
You know, this report comes out every month and it
can move markets. The Laborer Report is one of those
economic bellwethers that people pay attention to, Voters pay attention
to politicians, you know, lawmakers, business owners were all looking
(16:48):
to see, okay in terms of the economy and how
we're doing, how are we hiring, and the fact that
there are nearly a million fewer jobs were actually created
than we had been led to. It's just like, what
are we doing here? All these businesses are making decisions
based on these economic data points, and they're just like
what what? And then I'm thinking, you know, when's the
(17:10):
last time anyone even explained to me how is this
report calculated? Like where is this number even coming from?
And I didn't realize quite how manual. The process is,
this is a survey. This is a survey where the
Department of Labor they have these regional offices, and these
regional offices literally call up business owners on the phone.
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There's obviously an electronic portal where you can, you know,
submit voluntarily submit your numbers. But they call about one
hundred and twenty thousand businesses and government agencies that represent
six hundred and thirty one work sites across the US,
and they ask them how many jobs did you add?
You know, how many have you lost? They gather that data,
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like I'm saying, like manually, then they have to add
it up and all the businesses, like it doesn't line
up between when the data is going to come out
in the news to when all the businesses have the data.
Do like, some of the businesses may not be able
to get their data in on time. They may not
have it, they may not respond to that survey. It's
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still a really good you know, it's a survey. It's
like any other survey. It's a national sample. And I
was sort of thinking that there was some well oiled
I should have known better because federal government is so
slow and clunky, but I had just imagined that there
was some you know, there was some magical electronics system
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that was tracking maybe the irs for example, like tracking
new payroll editions and you know, or people who've switched jobs. Somehow,
I thought it was like more automated than that. But
it's very manual. So the fact that there is so
much room, it's hard to even say it's an error.
It's a miscalculation based on lack of data. So as
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more businesses start to report and start to answer that survey,
like maybe the number of jobs that were added go up,
maybe they go down. But the report comes out once
a month, and it's kind of it's on a routine,
it's on a clock. It's a snapshot of what's going
on in time. But that's why the next month and
the month after and a year later, they're constantly like
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revising their own data to help give us a better picture.
And this may be way too much in the weeds,
and it may not even matter, but I just thought
it was interesting to kind of better understand where this
number is even coming from. The long and short of it, though,
is that it is really tough out there. On top
of that, y'all may have seen this data going around
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that three hundred thousand black women have been ousted from
jobs from February to July. So in the first half
of the year, we've lost three hundred thousand Black women
wiped from the workforce. And the source of this data
is actually a gender economist. Her name is Kadikoi and
(20:05):
I love you know. I had Anna gifty Opoku Ajima
on the show last week. She just wrote the book
Double Tax, The Double Tax, and of course a lot
of great data is included in that book. And I
love it when the data nerds get their shine. So
I'm loving that Katecharoi. She's been cited as the economist
behind this data, and she's actually taken the time to
(20:28):
use publicly available data and been curious enough about how
black women are doing in the midst of this, you know,
terrible economy to actually dive deep and find out. So
her data has been on the front page of the
New York Times, It's been covered in Forbes, MSNBC, all
these major platforms. But just digging into what she found,
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she analyzed labor data and found that black women lost
three hundred and nineteen thousand jobs both in the public
and private sectors. Between February and July this year. And
this is the uh the gun punch. The only major
female demographic to experience this much job loss during that
five month period. We're black women. So while we lost
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three hundred and nineteen thousand jobs, white women saw their
jobs go up, saw an increase in jobs of one
hundred and forty two thousand. Hispanic women saw an increase
of one hundred and seventy six thousand jobs over the
same time period. But no one has reigned supreme like
a white man, because white men saw the largest increase
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among all racial engender groups, adding three hundred and sixty
five thousand jobs over the same time period. And now
we've arrived at the oh. That's why. That's why, despite
the stories I'm hearing from and Andy moneymakers, from brown
ambition listeners, obviously, my audience is ninety six percent women
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of color. Of that number, eighty percent are Black women,
about fifteen percent or Hispanic women. And y'all have been
telling me way before this data came out that it
is so hard to find work out here, that we
are losing our jobs, that we're not getting work. I
know y'all have been struggling far longer than other groups.
And now we're kind of seeing why. It's just now
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that we're starting to like the media and you know,
the culture is starting to understand, oh, this is a
tough economy. It's because even like we were the first
group to start feeling the pinch of a tightening economy,
where the first group, you know, that's going to be
where bias is going to work against us in job
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interviews and in hiring. So of course we start disappearing
from the workforce. I think Katika herself calls us like
the Canarian the coal mine, which is such a dark
metaphor but also effective. And then you hear, you know,
while I'm experiencing what I'm experiencing from hearing y'all stories,
(22:56):
and then you read the media headlines, and you know,
you listen to politicians talk about things, and it's like, oh,
but things are fine. Largely, the economy is strong. Largely,
the labor force is great, you know, compared, But what's
happening is like black women as a microcosm, like as
a segment of the workforce, like we are struggling. And
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Katako was the first one to give a damn. And
I'm so glad that she did to give a damn
in this way and to draw attention to it. And
I you know, I think also she's had a lot
of support from other black women in media who are like, no,
we need to make we need to make people pay
attention to data like this, make them care because this
should scare everybody, you know, because what's coming for us.
(23:38):
We'll eventually get to them, so we'll see we're the
first to suffer, but we'll see what numbers look like
for these other groups in the future. But yeah, I
want to shout out to Catechor Roy. I'm hoping to
have her on the show sometime soon to talk about
her work as a gender economist and see what other signs,
you know, in the economy, what could be voting for
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black women in this economy? Are there any signs of
hope out there? Okay, So speaking of hope, let's talk
about some sectors of the economy where they're actually are jobs. Okay,
So if you're there right now, you're unemployed, or you're
recently let go, or you're wanting to leave your job,
you're looking to switch career paths. Okay, what sectors are
actually hiring healthcare, baby healthcare, and social assistance. So this
(24:23):
sector has the highest number of job openings right now,
with over a million job openings, so there's an increased
demand for medical professionals, social workers, and support staff. Shout
out to my cousin who's been on the show before.
You'll know her a little bit of her career journey.
She actually just got a great job working for a
major hospital where we live here in Westchester outside of
(24:44):
New York City, And yeah, I was really proud of
her and excited, and I was like, yep, that makes sense.
She's been interviewing for a while, and of course, like
a healthcare job is the one that ended up working
out in the end. We also have professional and business
services with over one point three million openings and jobs,
and management, consulting, tech and operational support. So even though,
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of course, you know we've seen finance and tech have layoffs,
there's still opportunities in those spaces. Leisure and hospitality has
a million openings in career paths like food services and accommodations.
Travel and dining are apparently rebounding. I don't know how
because like with what money are people traveling and dining?
But sure but also trade, transportation and warehousing. More than
(25:30):
a million roles available, boosted by the growth in e commerce,
retail and logistics, and then information tech so it there's
about two hundred thousand openings, so that includes software development,
IT support, data roles also among the fastest growing sectors.
I wonder where cybersecurity kind of fits into that. Maybe
(25:50):
it's all under the umbrella of it, but that's where
some of the hope is. So if you're listening to
this and you're trying to strategize for your next career move,
I maybe that started to help you, you know, think
of some ideas on where to go next. I do
feel like and I'm having a hard time maybe articulating this,
but I have been thinking as I'm talking to women.
This has come up ever since i started to coach.
(26:12):
You know, you'll you'll talk to women who are like,
I really want to become a project manager because that
seems to be the trending thing. And now I'm hearing
a lot of cybersecurity because that seems to be the
trending thing. But I'm one question to ask yourself is like,
do you actually want to do that? And it's not
because you can't, Like I do believe obviously, like you
(26:35):
can learn the skill, you can do the job, and
we're and of course you should go after an industry.
It makes sense right to go after an industry that's
actually growing and all of that. But I wonder too, like,
because it's so competitive right now, if there's not a
real interest and experience and passion for the work, and
(26:56):
if you can't get really motivated about it other than
just I need a job, I need to like pay
the bills. I just feel like there's as it can
be really challenging to break into that space. So I
wouldn't force yourself into a career path just because you
think it's, you know, what the economy is favoring right now.
Just because there's not maybe the most jobs and maybe
(27:17):
the career path that you've chosen doesn't mean that it's
still not a viable one. And I just don't want
us to be chasing these like trends so much. I
think it's better to like take a step back. And
I'm working on this in the book as well, just
trying to like because it's hard to say it in
just a couple of minutes on a podcast, but trying
to take a step back and just look at the
full career trajectory so that you're more in control of
(27:40):
your career path and you're not like constantly feeling yourself
go jerked in this side and that side by what's
happening in the economy. The only thing that's certain about
the economy is that it's going to have its ups
and downs. I don't like the idea of us being
punted from one side to the next in the economy.
I want us to build some career stability for ourselves,
and I think that comes from really owning the overall
(28:02):
career path and owning, you know, this is what I'm
you know, specializing, this is what I'm great at, and
here's how I can stay rooted in my own skill set,
you know, in my own interests and what I bring
to the table, and adapt, of course, you know, adapt
to the changing economy, but not feeling like we need
to have a complete career, you know, one eighty and
(28:25):
up end everything every few years when there's another one
of these like economic you know, upturns, downturns, whatever it
may be. So I'm working on that. But if that
resonates with you or you're even if that pissed you
off what I just said. I want to hear from
y'all because I want to hear what you're thinking and
understand sort of like what the approach is. And if
you're someone who has successfully pivoted into an IT role,
(28:50):
into a healthcare role, into cybersecurity, I also would love
to hear from y'all. Would you email me or DM me.
You can DM me at Mandy Money, you can DM
me at Brand Ambission Podcast. You can email me at
Brandambis podcast at gmail dot com. Like, please talk to me.
I want to know. I want to know how you
did it. I want to know what was successful about it,
(29:12):
and I'm just really, really curious. So I'd love to
hear from y'all. It can be anonymous. I'm not going
to talk about you on the show, but I just
would love to hear those stories. And this is a
really good time for me to tell y'all. Mark your calendars.
September twenty fifth, at eight pm Eastern. I have not
done a webinar in a very long time. As you know,
my signature, Nail your Negotiation Webinar was the webinar I
(29:36):
did all the time for the past couple of years,
I wanted to create a webinar that felt urgent and
necessary for today's economy, and so I have come up
with and again thanks to Mandy Moneymaker Tiffany for the
little nudge in the right direction, I have come up
with a workshop, and we're going to talk about how
to leverage AI. That's right. I am not making AI
(29:56):
the enemy. AI as our friend. We're going to learn
how to harness it. I'm doing a free virtual workshop
September twenty fifth at eight pm on how to use
AI to boost your career strategy. So save the date,
September twenty fifth, eight pm Eastern Central. There's a sign
up RSVP link spots are limited. Sign up is in
(30:17):
the show notes right now, so you can go check
that out. I hope to see y'all there. I'm not
just going to be talking about how to put your
resume into chat GPD and get advice on bullet points.
Y'all know I am not the resume girl. I don't
spend a lot of time there. I'm talking about how
to use AI to develop a winning career strategy, how
to use it to take the pain out of networking,
(30:38):
how to use it to take the pain out of
searching for new opportunities. So we're going to cover all
the tips and tricks and strategies that I have been
working on and seeing in the clients that I'm working with,
and hopefully what you walk away from this webinar feeling
is empowered to do what I said, to take control
of your overall career strategy, and certainly to demystify AI.
(31:00):
Because listen, I'm sure maybe if you've dabbled with chat Gypt,
you've dabbled with perplexity, the claud like these different tools,
but there's so many of them now and you may
even feel like, well, what if this AI takes my
job someday? Well, let's actually look AI in the face.
Let's I'm going to make it very very easy for
(31:22):
beginners to understand how to use the tools, and you
can actually like, have some help getting used to it,
have some you know, someone to guide you so that
maybe it's not as intimidating. And I want you to
feel empowered. I want you to be more productive. I
want you to save time because you understand how to
use AI to your benefit, and at the same time,
because you're learning these AI skills softwarees tools. You're learning
(31:45):
how to how to leverage these. It's going to make
you a more attractive candidate for the job that you want.
I don't care what job it is. AI is somehow
going to be involved in your job coming up real soon,
if not already, So this can only help you, right, So,
I'm hoping that I'll see you again. Save the date
for September twenty fifth at eight pm. We are going
to learn how to use AI tools and software to
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boost our career strategy, get the jobs we want, get
the pay that we want, and at least, at the
very least, feel inspired and feel ready to take on
this rapidly changing economy and rapidly declining job market. All right, Vafa,
I'm going to take a little bit of a break.
I'll be right back after we pay some bills. Welcome
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back via FAM. I want to get into some happy news. I,
as you know, have been doing the Brand Ambition book
Club for some time now. We've had two official book
club selections. I'm in the market for number three. I'm
narrowing it down to a couple. I'd love y'all to
offer some feedback. All you have to do to join
the book Club, by the way, is just be a
(32:52):
member of the broad Ambition Patreon and free membership gets
you access to the book club. You do not have
to pay to be a Patreon, although if you want
to pay, you'll get some perks, like you'll get invites
to join us and during live tapings of the show
when we have the Brown Table together, you'll also get
AD free viewing of video episodes, so you don't have
(33:12):
to watch on YouTube and sit through all those ads.
You can just come to the Patreon and watch at
your leisure, get your wash day woosaws, your Brown Tables,
your baqas ad free. So yeah, ba book Club, there's
some contenders. So I'm actually so I'll let you in
on my thought process. So I'm a little self conscious
(33:33):
because I know my first two book Club selections happen
to be written by authors by black mail authors rather
blackmail authors. So we had c Bo Campbell, my guy
love that Sky Full of Elephants. We also had Clarence Haynes,
who wrote the Ghost of Gwendolyn Montgomery and I am
done with that. Okay, we need to pick a woman
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of color, and I have been looking. I really wanted
to be a nonfiction, something inspirational, something we're tied to,
maybe business or career, kind of getting back to the
basics when it comes to what Brown Ambition is really
here to do, which is all about financial and career
empowerment and a couple of options. So Issa Ray has
(34:15):
a new audio book that was just released and it's
an audible only original, so there is no physical book.
And I know that a lot of the girls like
we're listening to audiobooks anyway. But it's a book of essays.
It's three hours long about and it looks really good.
And I started to listen to it, and y'all know,
I love me some Lisa. Who doesn't love some Lisa.
(34:36):
I've been trying to get her on the show, but
damn it, of her people will not respond to me.
And you know, fairy game, fairy game, she had a
busy girl. But Lisa's new audiobook it's called I Should
be Smarter by Now, and it gets into it's personal essays,
so she's reading her personal stories that she's written, so
I know it's going to be good. I loved Misadventures
(34:56):
of an Awkward Black Girl that came out with her
first first memoir sort of book book of essays that
came out god, maybe ten years ago. Now it's been
a while. So there's that. And then another brilliant woman,
Uzo Aduba, has a new memoir coming out. The Road
is Good, How a mother's strength became a daughter's purpose.
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So she revealed the cover and it is just stunning.
And while she was writing this book, Uzo her mother
was fighting cancer and unfortunately succumb to her battle with cancer.
And I know, as Uzo as a new mommy, as
a working artist, like, I just know that this book
(35:41):
is going to be powerful. So I'm waiting to get
my copy. I'm thinking about that. And there's a third
so these are each different. So we had, like the
nonfiction essay of is of Fray, we have the inspirational
memoir from Uzu Aduba. My third option is a novel
that I got the opportunity to read in advance. Yea
to being podcast producer, people will send you books in advance.
(36:02):
This book is called Who Knows You by Heart? And
you know, as I'm saying it, it's another book that
has a beautiful black female, not even beautiful, but a
black female, strong black female character, a Jamaican American black
female character at its heart, and she's the main protagonist
in the story, but written by a black guy author.
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I don't know what I'm going to do about that, Guys?
Is it okay? I mean, in both cases my first
picks of the book club, sky Full of Elephants and
the Ghost of Gwendela Montgomery, they each featured main protagonists
who are women of color, black women. So you know
who knows You by Heart also has a black woman protagonist.
Just has you written by a black author? Regardless. I'm
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getting that, I've gotten the author c J. Fartley. He's
coming on this show to talk about the book, so
that's very exciting. But I really enjoyed that book. It's
not out until November. Of course, you can pre order
it now, and why the hell just go ahead and
pre order? Why not go ahead and pre order it
because I it was a page turner And basically what
you're learning is a story of this this young black woman,
(37:09):
modern day Silicon Valley type vibe. She works in big
tech and she's a coder, and she's a little bit
of like a like a rebel as a coder. I
don't know, she's doing her own thing, and she actually
gets hired by like I couldn't tell. Is this company
supposed to be like a Tesla or like an audible,
Like I don't know. It's a big, big tech company.
(37:31):
And she kind of finds herself getting swept up in
the AI revolution and think she's in control of it.
And I don't want to give too much away, but
it's a bit of a thriller. It's thriller ish. It's
very thought for provoking. It's very like chilling, kind of
makes you want to unplug every device that you ever
(37:52):
have connected to the Internet and scrape all of your
data like in a way. But I just thought it
was very thought provoking. And he also tackles head on
and I think he really captures what it's like to
be a black woman, specifically in tech in modern America.
So the fact that in this guy, come to find out,
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the author like he used to work in tech. He
was like an executive at some big tech company. I
forget which one. So he gets it. He talks about
how she's sort of like really working there because she
has a bunch of debt to pay off after her
mom has passed away. As a personal finance girl, I
love a plot point that includes reverse mortgages because how
like nerdy and dorky is that, But I love it
(38:35):
we get into that. But anyway, she's broke and she
has to be working, and so for her, it's like,
I need a big fat tech job. I need to
get some of them golden handcuffs. Give me those RSUs
and you see how you know, the company uses those
golden handcuffs to you know, keep her trapped, kind of
keep her coming back. And at the same time, she's
encountering the ergs that are you know, the women in
(38:58):
tech erg and the feminist, feminist white woman leader who
really wants to you know, take her under her wing
and all that shit, and at the same time, like
is keeping tabs on the microaggressions that she's facing day
to day working. So at the same time, it's telling
a really compelling story that I don't think I've seen
(39:19):
in a novel recently and certainly not in film and television,
but telling the story of a really cool, interesting, unique
black female character, but in the backdrop of like what
it's like being a black woman working in tech today.
Thought he really did a good job. So we'll I
gonna see. But those are my three ideas. Right now,
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there's another I'm trying to avoid, like super prescriptive like business,
how to be a leader, how to launch of business
type books. I'm trying to find books that evoke a
sense of delight, inspiration, optimism, and yes, make us think
(40:01):
about career and about finances. But it's me again trying
to take us out of like the rigidity of you know,
learning the how to's and all of that, and just
like embracing the power of really good storytelling that bring
us closer to those subjects, but don't like beat us
over the head with them, do you know what I mean?
(40:23):
So it could be a novel, it could be memoir,
it could be nonfiction. But the Brown Ambition Book Club
at its heart is when we're reading these books, I
want us to feel empowered and inspired and open us
up to conversations about what it's actually like living in
our skin, in our bodies as women, black women, women
of color, in this world, in this healthscape. Is it
(40:46):
too much to say it's a healthcape? I don't know that.
That expression kind of makes me chuckle, But we gotta
we gotta laugh so we don't cry. But those are
my That's what I'm thinking about. Now. If you're on
the patreon, I need your feet. I need you to
come with your ideas. So again, check out the patreon.
It's patreon dot com slash Brown Ambition, or you can
(41:06):
go to the show notes to get the link to
the patreon. Is it dot co or dot com girl,
I don't know. Check the show notes, but we're Brian
Ambition there. Join the patreon again, completely free to join,
and you can weigh in on our next book club
selection and let me know if I'm on the right track.
So yeah, but I've really been loving it so far
(41:27):
and I appreciate everyone who's been a part of it.
So thank y'all. Okay, now we have come to the
time to do Brown Boost, Brown Break for this week.
I am going to bring it all back to the
beginning of the show. I spent a lot of time
at the top of the show talking about the job market.
We talked about the three hundred plus thousand black women
(41:47):
who lost their jobs in the first half of the year.
I want to talk about or give a boost to
a black woman who's actually doing something about it, to
my friend Dysha Dyer, who has been on the show before. Remember,
she's the author of the book Undiplomatic. She was the
Social secretary at the White House during the Obama administration,
and Desha in light of the statistic that came out
(42:12):
showing that three hundred thousand black women have left or
have lost their jobs, she actually created and created a
fundraiser and raised twenty five thousand dollars in partnership with
the Loveland Foundation to offer free therapy to black women
who have been who have been let go or lost
their jobs this year. So I love Udisha, and I
(42:34):
just think this is incredible and it's very inspiring because
twenty five thousand dollars, I mean, it's not millions, right,
but she has enabled dozens hundreds of women to get
free access to a therapy session. And if there's one
thing that is overwhelming to me about being a career
coach at a time like this is how so much
(42:56):
of the challenge becomes mental, you know, becomes about keeping
ourselves mentally healthy to endure the challenges of today's job market.
And I am not a licensed mental health expert. I'm
not a therapist, I'm not a social worker. I'm none
of those things. And I've never said I was, so
(43:17):
we still value and love our mental health care workers.
At the same time, it's expensive and when you've lost
your job, you know what you don't have in this
god forsaken country is health insurance a lot of the times.
And if you do have it, will it actually cover
the services of all mental health professionals. No, the one
that may be the right one for you maybe out
(43:38):
of network, or may have a really high copay, or
you may have a high deductible. So the fact that
Disha's done this fundraiser and she's raised this money for
black women to get mental health support, it's just incredible
and it's a little bit of bright, happy news that
I wanted to end the show on. So shout out
to Desha and to anyone listening if you haven't checked
out the Loveland Foundation. They do incredible will work. The
(44:00):
Loveland Foundation was founded by Rachel Cargole. This was back
in twenty eighteen. She wanted to raise over two hundred
and fifty thousand dollars to provide therapy for black women
and girls, and since then, the Loveland Foundation has continued
her effort so to helping to bring opportunity and healing
to communities of color, especially black women and non binary individuals,
(44:23):
through fellowships, residency programs, listening tours, and more So. Check
out the Loveland Foundation and yeah, check out Dshit Go
follow her on ig follow all her work. Okaya, fam,
I'm going to call that a wrap. Stay tuned this week.
On Friday, I'm back with an episode of the Baqa
and then we have our Wash Day WUSA coming up
(44:45):
this Sunday. I'm going to be sitting down with Ebanie
k Williams, who, if you recall, was the first black
woman to ever be a real housewife of New York.
So Ebanie and I talk about her career as an attorney,
and she's now posting her court TV show called Equal
Justice with Judge Ebedy k Williams. Check that out. We
(45:07):
had a really fun conversation. That'll be the Wash Day
WUSAW for this Sunday. All right, va, fam, please hang
in there, lean on one another for support. Don't believe
everything you think. That's another good book that could be
a book club selection. I highly recommend it. Don't believe
everything you think. Take care of here, take care of here,
(45:27):
and take care of each other. Sending you lots and
lots of love. Thank you so much. Bye okay va fam,
thank you so much for listening to this week's show.
I want to shout out to our production team, Courtney,
our editor, Carla, our fearless leader for idea to launch productions.
I want to shout out my assistant Lauda Escalante and
(45:50):
Cameron McNair for helping me put the show together. It
is not a one person project, as much as I
have tried to make it so these past ten years.
I need help, y'all, and thank goodness I've been able
to put this team around me to support me on
this journey. And to y'all, Ba Fam, I love you
so so so so much. Please rate, review, subscribe, Make
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sure you sign up to the newsletter to get all
the latest updates on upcoming episodes, our ten year anniversary
celebrations to come, and until next time, talk to you soon,
BA buye
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