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December 10, 2025 50 mins

In this week’s solo episode, Mandi Money invites the BA Fam into a deeply personal, deeply revealing moment of reflection. After attending an intimate one-day mastermind retreat hosted by friend of the show Amina Altai, Mandi found herself sitting with something she rarely lets linger: discomfort.

What started as a simple business check-in turned into a powerful lesson on alignment, limiting beliefs, burnout, and trusting your gut—even when it feels like your whole body is screaming, “Girl, run!” From sharing vulnerably about juggling three major projects (the podcast, coaching, and her book), to getting an unexpected wake-up call during her very first Akashic Records reading, this episode is full of emotional clarity, honesty, and a reminder that sometimes the thing we’ve been treating like a side dish is actually the main meal.

Plus: Mandi breaks down the viral “3-hour drive” TikTok saga, celebrates Rep. Jasmine Crockett’s genius campaign ad, and calls out the infuriating news about national parks removing free-entry days for Juneteenth & MLK Day.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, ba fam, let's be real for a second, and
y'all know I keep it a book. The job market
has been brutal, now not brutal trash, especially for women
of color. Over three hundred thousand of us have disappeared
from the workforce this year alone, and not by choice,
but because of layoffs, disappearing DEI programs, and stagnant wages

(00:20):
that keep cutting us out of opportunity. Our unemployment rate
has jumped to over seven percent, while our pay gap
continues to widen. I know all of that sounds dire,
but here's what I want y'all to know. You do
not have to wait for the system to save you.
That's exactly why I created the Mandy money Makers Group
coaching community. It is a coaching community that is built

(00:41):
for us by us. Inside the community, we're not just
talking about how to negotiate or to how to get
the job that you want. It's about finding purpose in
your career. It's about finding communities and others, feeling seen,
feeling heard, and also having a sounding board and a
mirror to reflect your own magic, your own sparkle right

(01:03):
back to yourself. In this community, you'll get group coaching
led by me, but you also get peer to peer
accountability with proven tools and resources that can help you
do what we have always done, this rise even when
the odds are stacked against us, despite all the challenges,
we will rise. If you're interested in joining the Mandy

(01:24):
money Makers community and having that support to bolster you
and help you tap back into your magic so that
you can lead your career with intention and heart and
your own intuition, trusting that again, please join us. You
can find information in the show notes of today's episodes
or go to mandymoney dot com slash community. That's Mandy

(01:47):
m a ndimoney dot com slash community. I would love
to see y'all there. Enrollment is open, so please go
check out mandymoney dot com slash community today. Hey, hey,
ba fam, it's your girl, Mandy Money and welcome back

(02:07):
to another episode of Brown Ambition Today. I am writing
solo and I am just excited to sit down with y'all.
I always still write at home when I'm talking to
my VA fam, and there's a lot going on. First,
I just want to hold space for those of y'all
who are grinding away the last couple of weeks before
the holiday I get it. It's like having senioritis, but

(02:29):
in the corporate world. And yeah, it's not like you're
going to get to graduate, but hopefully you will get
some time off. And it's also one of the meanest
months of the year when of course there's layoffs, there's anxiety.
Maybe it's just personal review time, professional review time, and
you're concerned about that, so it can be a lot.

(02:50):
So I'm just holding space for y'all, and I hope
that you're really clocking out when you can clock out
and starting to get that hibernation zone going, get the
people even wear snuggies anymore, whatever you got to do
to feel cozy. I've been telling y'all, I've been getting
cookbooks and finding new recipes to test out and to
try to sort of make the long dark afternoons and

(03:14):
evenings here in New York not be so long. And
you know that seasonal depression. Just just stave it off
a little bit and give me something to do with
my children who can't be outside playing because it is
in the teens, right. So whatever you can do to
sort of romanticize this time and to you know, pour
back into yourself is great. I think also planning some

(03:36):
breaks from the monotony. Planning some you have to kind
of balance it with Yes, the time for hibernation and
rest is here, but know when you need a nudge
to get out of the house, off the couch, maybe
get like a chili walk in, even if it's like
five ten minutes, just to kind of reinvigorate yourself. I

(03:57):
know it sounds like the worst idea her, but just
that little few minute walk that I have taken my
kid to the bus stop in the morning. Sometimes I'll
go the long way and it does just get the
blood flowing a little bit, and I think that can
go a long way. Now, yesterday I spiced things up
big time and I got out of my comfort zone

(04:17):
and for the first time I went to a well
the first time, but the first time in a long time.
I went to a small like one day what am
I going to call it? Like a retreat, a one
day retreat for women in business and well professionals basically
who were looking for like a reset before the new year,

(04:40):
in a little time to look at some challenges and
get some feedback. So it was actually hosted by friend
of the show, Amina Altai. I had her on the show.
A few months ago. She wrote the best selling book,
The Ambition Trap, and I might have it somewhere behind me.
I'm going to worry your book, I girl, Oh, here
it is. It's under this steck of books. I'm not

(05:01):
going to I'm not going to shift those around right now.
The whole thing may come tumbling down. But Amana is
just the sweetest and I'm happy to say that we've
become pals. And she mentioned she was doing this retreat
with her you know, she's an executive coach. And she
mentioned she was doing a little small group retreat and
we were talking about maybe collaborating together. And I had

(05:22):
to stop her and I was like, listen, I would
love to collaborate, but can I come to that retreat.
That sounds great, That sounds like something that I could
really use right now. And yeah, I was a bit nervous,
but I showed up. It was from ten am until
six pm, so it was a full day and we
started off with a bang. There wasn't even much like

(05:44):
a little bit of like, you know, getting to know
you small talk. But I was the first person who
was called on to talk share a little bit about me,
my business and the challenges that I was hoping for
feedback on. And I like the way that the retreat
was scheduled or the way that it was structured, because well,

(06:04):
first of all, we all read kind of like a
contractor basically an agreement of the respect we're going to
have from one each other and one another, and how
we're going to be active listeners but not talk too much,
and like just to be really mindful of the fact
that we were all there to learn from each other
and to get feedback and then also get our questions
answered and all that. And then I had to get

(06:27):
on stage quote unquote stage, although not stage. For some reason,
I stood up. I was the only person who stood up.
They're probably like bitches nat Shark Tank, but I just
was like, I guess I should stand and tell you
about myself. But I basically talked about Brown Ambition and
the Mandy money Makers, which y'all know. I launched Mandy

(06:48):
money Makers in twenty twenty one and it's always been
a separate entity from Brown Ambition, the podcast, and that
was for the main reason being because when I created
the coaching practice, Tiffany and I were still co host
co owners of Brown Ambition, the podcast, and it just
felt like it made sense. Tiffany always had her own

(07:10):
business outside of Brown Ambition. I always had my own
career outside of Brown Ambition, So it seemed like if
I was going to create something and have to be
like completely independent of the show. And you know, four
years later, lots has changed. Lots has changed, but the
biggest thing being that I'm now the sole owner of
the Brown Ambition podcast and the Brown Ambition brand. So

(07:33):
and that's not just about like IP ownership. I mean
I'm doing all the work and growing the show, and
it's it's a lot. And I'll probably do a separate
episode on like reflecting on the year, the past year
of being a solo host of Brown Ambition. Maybe I'll
save that for January, but I will say that I

(07:55):
was so energetic and I still am excited about being
the host of the show. But it has been a lot,
and it has required so much more time away from
Mandy money Makers, away from my book. So the y'all
know your girl has been and I know y'all relate
to this because who isn't being tugged in a bunch

(08:16):
of different directions And that was what I wanted to
sort of talk to the group about or what I
chose to talk about. I went in there thinking, Okay,
the problem I'm going to share with them is I
have these three different I'm holding up four fingers, three
different buckets of work that I can focus on these days,
the podcast, the coaching business, and my book. And I

(08:39):
am not doing great or I'm doing my best, I'll say,
but by my own you know, by my own measuring stick,
I am not using my time as efficiently or especially
not as financially efficiently as I could be. And I
walked into that. I walked into the Mastermind retreat yesterday

(09:02):
kind of thinking that since brown ambition is, you know,
it's been a year almost since I've been doing it.
Solow got I got through the transition to iHeart on
that network, and you know, I've gotten into a good
groove and things are stable, you know, like I thought, well,
maybe this is a time to sort of get back

(09:23):
into like a stability mode, kind of maintenance mode with
the podcast and devote more time to coaching and of
course the book, which continues to be a project that
I don't know if y'all have written a book or
you have never written a book. I just got to
tell you it is not a linear process. It's really
freaking hard. Just like everyone you know who's ever been
a guess on the podcast has told me and always

(09:45):
been so candid about like it is a journey, and
my journey is you know, has been peaks and valleys,
and so it's been taking. It's been taking the time
that it's taken, right, but it's still in process. I'm
getting there, but it's still a work in progress. I
really wanted to be good, so I yeah, I walked
in there thinking, you know, time to like pull back
from the podcast and time to you know, turn up

(10:08):
the heat on these other projects. And that's sort of
what I did my like five or ten minutes feel about.
And honestly, the feedback and the questions I got, I
had to take some time after I got home last
night to sort of process because I was nervous. It's
a bit nerve wracking to kind of talk about yourself

(10:30):
and your business in front of five women that you
haven't met before. And I am quite comfortable in front
of a group, Like I talk to y'all all the time,
and I have this podcast, and I speak and have
my own coaching community and all that. But I realized
in those spaces, I'm coming into the room and people
already are aware of me and what I do, and

(10:51):
probably have some level of respect or enjoy what I
do already. And this is a group of women that
had probably never heard of me or my show, and
so it was just different. And also I didn't get
to know them very much before. I just went in like, hey,
you hear my problems, like how do I fix them?
And as the day went on, like once I got
my once my my part of the Mastermind was over,

(11:13):
and I got my feedback and my questions, and I
was sort of, you know, processing it and then participating
in other conversations. I did something my gut was like twisted.
My gut is uh is a real driver for me
in my life and my When I say my gut,
I actually physically feel in my gut when something is

(11:34):
right or wrong. And when things are wrong, it can
be really uncomfortable to be in my own skin. And
I was telling Amana, you know, for the first few
hours of the day, I just felt really uncomfortable, like
I couldn't really get comfortable in my seat and bless her.
You know, we did all these breathing exercises, which were
lovely sort of ways of getting grounded, but just something

(11:57):
about me and my skin and my gut that just
felt like, you know, out of alignment, uncomfortable. And I'm
quite proud of myself because I was so uncomfortable that
I really could have been like, you know, I'm not
feeling great. I'm just gonna bounce. I'm gonna go. Like
the fight or Flight was a little bit it was
a little bit turned on, and but I I during

(12:20):
during one of those little meditation breaks we took, I
was kind of talking to myself and you know, meditation
and a lot of the different therapy I've been trying
the past couple of years, so many different kinds. One
of the common themes is to sit in discomfort and
not judge it and to not immediately try to fix it.

(12:42):
And since you know, I'm my growth you know, my
growth vibe right now, I just I told myself, like,
what if you just sat with this, and what if
this discomfort is information? You were talking about your business
and what you think is going right and what challenges
you're having, and you're getting the feedback and you're saying

(13:03):
stuff in response, but it's not feeling like something's off.
And instead of running from that feeling and thinking I
need to get out of here and this was a mistake,
what if you just use that discomfort as information and
you don't make any big decisions right now, and you
just think about it and let it ruminate, marinade and

(13:24):
let it go a little bit. You know, I had
my uncomfortable sort of couple of hours getting you know,
in the zone and sharing my story, and then what
if I just let that be how the first part
of the day went. The nice thing about a full
day Mastermind or full day retreat is that it's a
full day. You know, there's a marathon, not a sprint.

(13:47):
It's not a forty five minute webinar. It's not something
that you're going to, at least in my mind, you're
not going to get like a total transformation and just
you know, a day, and certainly not in like a
short webinar. But it allowed me the time in the
space to really sit with those feelings and to think
about it. And as the day went on, we had

(14:07):
lunch and then I you know, I got to hear
from the other women and it was such a I
mean for a group of five, extremely diverse and of age,
of race, and even locasionally one woman from Virginia, so
you know, it was it was. It was a great
little It was a great group, and everyone was so

(14:29):
different and differently talented, and I think the one commonality
was that we're all just really looking at each other
and feeling this sense of community in the conundrum community
and the confusion and community and the I have some
blank spaces here that I don't know how to fit

(14:53):
or like me, I'm feeling discomfort, but I'm not really
sure where it's coming from. And you know, it was
an opportunity yesterday to sort of assess and to take
a step back and to feel for me at least,
this is how I approached it, to feel how I
was feeling in this in this time. And the body

(15:14):
was very loud, like, girl, we not love in this.
We're not loving where you're at. We something's off, let's
something's out of alignment or you know something, but let's
let's examine that. And I thought I was going to
go home, you know, later on and really like work through, yeah,
all the feelings that came up. But later in the
evening or later in the afternoon, we did we did

(15:37):
a ritual where we wrote down on a card, we
wrote down, this is this is a fun stuff. I
got to burn some stuff, and this is something that
I think anyone can do at home. I mean, if
you are, I'm not trying to tell you all to
burn your house down. Be safe, you know, use your
common sense. Don't don't light stuff on fire. That's like
crazy and flammable. But we wrote down on an end

(16:00):
card some thoughts or feelings that we wanted to leave behind,
were bad habits or whatever it may be, things that
were not that weren't really serving us. What do we
want to leave behind in the new year. And then
on a piece of like square piece of like little
tissue paper, we wrote down things that we wanted to

(16:20):
call in for twenty twenty six, so the new year.
And I'll be transparent with y'all. I think on my card,
I wrote that I was going to be releasing deep
self doubt, that I was going to be releasing shame
around productivity, and I was going to be releasing how

(16:41):
did I phrase it? Basically, that I would release being
unkind to myself and that negative self talk, and I
understand that easier said than done. But I was like,
if I'm gonna put something, we put the old people,
but I really want to get rid of like we'll
talk about executing that as another story, but that's what
I wrote on the card for the most part. And

(17:02):
then we stood up and Amana. We had a little candle.
We lit the index card on fire, watched it burn
for a little bit, and then because we're safe, right,
we put it in a little bowl of water to
extinguish it. And then on the piece of paper, the
wish paper. I don't know that a thing you can
just get on Amazon. It was like extremely light tissue paper,

(17:23):
but you could write on it. We wrote our wishes
for twenty twenty six and I think I'll keep my
wishes private. But we also lit those and those kind
of disintegrated. They was it was cool. We were in
a room, but there was a I guess enough of

(17:43):
a little breeze in the room, maybe from the h
back or whatnot. So when you burned your wish paper,
it just floated, floated up into the sky and well
all the way into the sky to the ceiling, and
it was it was a nice little. It was nice,
and you know, I thought it was another opportunity to
just reflect and to really like set some intentions for

(18:07):
not so much business. I didn't write down any big
goals or business goals. It wasn't like making a wish
on a birthday cake. It was really just more feelings
and emotions I wanted to invite in for twenty twenty
six and was nice and if it couldn't get better,
the day ended. The last couple of hours, I'm going

(18:29):
to brought in a Kashak record and I should say
this right, and a Kashak record reader a psychic and
did she name herself a psychic? I'm not sure. I
don't want to, like, I'm so new to this world,
like y'all, And I know I'm inviting a lot of
y'all to come out the woodworks if you're a little
witchy and you like this kind of stuff, like I'm

(18:51):
ready for it, okay, because this is my first time
ever even hearing of a Kashak record reading. And I
know I'm going to mention like, yeah, I usually have
some well people come and one of them is doing
this Acasta record and I was like, I don't know
what that is, but okay, cool, I just wanted to
be in the room, right, and this woman comes in
and I genuinely had no idea what it was. I'm
not an expert by any means, but the Akashak Record,

(19:15):
I don't want to butcher this. The Acastak record is
a library of energy. It is like imagine the Citadel
or the Library of Congress, but it is like a
full history of energy from like every soul that's ever existed,
and you sort of access it through these these record holders,

(19:38):
like these record entities, these spirits, I would say. And
so basically she sort of acts as the conduit between
the records and the record keepers and whoever she's reading with.
And so she actually did a reading with each of
us in the group. So it wasn't pride that we
each got like a reading, like a twenty minute reading.

(20:00):
And I was again nervous. And the idea is that
you don't it's not like fortune telling at all. And
you know, she she opened the portal, you know, she
read a little prayer and then we were able to
ask the record keeper's spirits any question we wanted. And

(20:21):
I ang gonna lie. I was like, what I'm supposed
to ask, like what do you ask? Like spirits from
who are supposed to also have your soul. They're supposed
to have they're supposed to have records of every soul
of that you've ever lived, Like all the souls that
you have had, or the lives you have had, they're
supposed to have all the records of that. So the
idea is like, Also, I sort of thought about the

(20:43):
brand Brandon Stark from Game of Thrones, you know how
he was like the all seeing what was he a
tree god? I don't know. He's a touch of tree
and he could see everything, like kind of reminded me
of that. She was way cooler though. She was like
just like a bad like a regular New York lady,
and I liked her vibe. But you know, I asked

(21:04):
my question. I think I asked it. I won't even
lie I used. While the other women were going, I
was on my Perplexity app on my phone, you know AI,
and I was like, I'm not my very first accoutic reader,
I'm the next person up. I have no idea what
to ask, And luckily I was using Perplexity to fine
tune my my pitch or my little speech that I

(21:25):
gave at the beginning of the day, so it had
like a record perplexity did of the challenges that I
was wanting to talk about. And it was like, gave
me a bunch of different answers or questions I could ask,
And I ended up choosing how does my soul wish
for my business to evolve in the coming year? And
I think that stumped the spirits a little bit. Hey, ba, fam,

(21:48):
we got to take a quick break, pay some bills.
It will be right back. So the first question I
asked was kind of vague and so and I forget
exactly what she was saying that they were saying. It
was something to the effect of, like, you know, to
stand in your you know power and increase your confidence
as a subject matter expert and to show up even

(22:11):
more and to like and I and and perhaps there's
like a lacking of or like a loss of some
confidence in that space and just to like start building
that back up. And I was like, yeah, okay, sort
of tracks. You know, I have been dealing with a
lot and not showing up as much, you know, teaching
and speaking about my subject matter expertise like online and

(22:34):
and speaking engagements that hasn't been happening this year. So
I was like, okay, And then I was like, well,
how do they feel about my challenge of sort of
toggling or trying to divide my attention between my podcast
and my coaching business. And her eyes lit up and
she was like, oh she was She was like, Oh,

(22:54):
they're really excited about the podcast. They're like they like,
they're like they're they're they're kind of being noisy about
the podcast. Listen. I don't know what the hell's happening,
but it's in her head and like they're talking to her.
I just had to suspend any discl I was just
I had to commit. I committed to the bit for
that session. The two hours I was there having my

(23:15):
reading and watching others have their reading, I was like, Oh,
this is legit, this is perfectly fine. Everyone does this.
This is normal. And she's but she was like, oh, podcast,
they're very excited about that. And at first, and when
when she said that, my heart kind of like that
gut feeling I told you, I started to feel for
the first time all day like a little bit oh,

(23:38):
like a little relief, little sense of peace. Again, this
is information that I'm you know, I'm gathering information. I
was really uncomfortable in the beginning part of the day.
Now I'm you know, hearing this and I'm feeling a
bit of comfort. And she went on to say that
they were telling her that it felt to them as

(23:59):
if I I really wanted and was committed to the
coaching and that that path was available for me as
a business, but that I was struggling with it because
as a coach, I wasn't able to I wanted to
be really impactful, and I was feeling and they were

(24:19):
saying to her that I was feeling frustrated by the
by the women I work with, people I work with
when they weren't actually like implement implementing the steps or
taking the strategies, or you know, like actually taking action
and changing things or taking those steps to get where

(24:41):
they needed to go, and that I was struggling with that,
and and that ring true for me to a certain extent,
Like I I've been coaching now for four years, and
I if you listen to my interview with with Muriel Wilkins,
who wrote the book Leadership Unblocked, from a couple of
weeks ago, she was had we aired her episode She

(25:02):
and I spoke about her career as an executive coach
and how she was encouraging me not to get so
personally attached to the outcome of my clients and not
to feel personally responsible for the outcome. And I had
been I hadn't really been unpacking how that conversation made
me feel. But I don't think I necessarily could ever

(25:26):
get to a place where I didn't didn't like personally
feel invested in, like want to see that person accomplish what,
you know, the goals that they said they wanted to accomplish,
especially if they were working with me, So listen, the
spirits were on point in that regard. And basically she
was like, they're saying, you know, you don't want to

(25:48):
it's something that's available to you, the coaching, but if
you want, like you could set it aside for a
month and focus on focus your energy on the podcast
and just see how that feels. See if you miss it,
see if you missed the coaching. And I just thought
that that was really interesting. I was very excited about well,
I felt very I felt good. My gut was feeling good.

(26:10):
And when it came to that instinct or that energy
that they were feeling about my podcast being a real
passion for me and lighting me up. I mean, brown
ambition is everything, And it just was so in my
head as I was listening, I'm like, well, shit, I
walked in here today to get these people to help
me figure out how to do you know less with

(26:31):
the podcast so that I can put more into my
neglected coaching and the book. And it just feels like
the spirit world really wants me to go all in
with the podcast. And even as I was sitting there,
I was I was wondering, well, why am I Why
do I feel like podcast is We're as good as

(26:53):
it's as big as it's going to get, Like, let's
scale it back, Let's pull back a little bit and
devote energy other places. It's like, why do I think that?
Is that a limiting belief? I'm going into this day
thinking that I'm trying to be strategic and that this
is a good business decision. But listen, I think a
lot of us, myself obviously included, will try to think

(27:18):
rationally about something and it's like a logical, you know,
idea or logical plan that we try to make when
really what's happening is like there's a limiting belief, there's
like a doubt that we have or a fear that
we have that makes that plan a little bit more
comfortable and makes that plan feel feel feels good, feels right.

(27:41):
So what if I because the other opposite of my
plan is well, what if I drop something? And what
if this is too much? What if three different big
projects at a time is too much? And what if
something has to get and what does that mean? I
had never even considered walking away from the coaching practice.

(28:03):
I'm telling y all this literally that less than twenty
four hours after I had the reading. I'm not making
any big final decisions right now. I do enjoy my
coaching practice and the community that I've built with Mandy
Moneymakers and the you know, the women that I get
to work with. But it definitely got me thinking about

(28:23):
one giving myself permission to at least pause something so
that I can focus on something else. And it's making
me rethink, what of those three big initiatives I have
is going to deserve or you know, be deserving of
the time. I think I was trying to choose a

(28:44):
thing that made the most to me anyway financial sense,
and instead of choosing the thing that would be the
most fun and the most fulfilling, because of course the
more I work on the show, that the time and
energy I invest in the show. It It's one of
those situations where doesn't feel like work. It's a passion

(29:04):
project and it's also work, and it feels meaningful and
deeply impactful. And of course I can coach, right, but
do I need that extra business, like the whole infrastructure
of the business and the commitment to that, you know.
And one of the things the reader was saying that,
you know, speaking to this to the Acostic record keepers,

(29:26):
was that, oh if she I think, she questioned, she
pushed back. They were pushing back on my idea that
a podcast wasn't enough and that this is right, okay,
it's coming back now. Yeah, that if that something was
telling me. I was telling myself that it has to
be the podcast and something else. It can't just be
the podcast. And somehow if the podcast wasn't enough, and

(29:50):
that touched a nerve or didn't touch a nerve, but
I clocked like a feeling there because yeah, I mean,
the podcast, it was always my side project when I
was my corporate career. I'll know I started the podcast
when I was full time at Yahoo Finance and then
went on to other parts of my career and still
had the podcast. And even when I left corporate and

(30:11):
I had an opportunity to go all in with Brown ambition,
it didn't feel like a business that I could go
all in on. It felt like, well, I'm going to
start a legitimate business, a coaching business, and I did it,
you know, with some with success, and especially those first
couple of years. This past year, I have not been

(30:33):
devoting as much time to it, so successes looked different.
But yeah, really I hadn't realized that by by sort
of putting the podcast in the side dish category, not
the entree, that I might have been limiting my own
growth potential. And maybe that was a limiting belief I had,

(30:54):
And so yeah, I was. It was. It was a
ten to twenty minute how long, it was a costic
record reading, but it definitely made me feel lit up
in a way that whereas the first half of the
day there was a lot of discomfort and uncertainty and

(31:15):
I don't like you talking about this and like why
does nothing feel good? And like, you know, and then
at the end of the day. It was like, Wow,
this is a path, this is an option, and I
have to I have to think about it. So all
that is to say. And this probably went on way
too long as I usually do, but I wanted to

(31:37):
let y'all in because I just thought it was it
was a really beneficial day long mastermind retreat. And I
know that you know, the great Amana check out her work,
and I don't know if she's doing another one. I
think she does them like twice a year or something
like that. Maybe she and I will do one together.
I would love to, And that's what we were talking

(31:59):
about before. I just elbowed my way into coming to
this one. But now that I've experienced, you know, her
version of a Mastermind retreat, then I'm like, oh, this
is great. I could definitely get down with this and
I would love to. But anyway, yeah, if there's a
version of this that y'all could do, you could even
create a one day Mastermind for yourself or with a

(32:21):
friend or a couple of friends, a community. Maybe there's
a formal retreat you can join. But it's such a gift,
I think, to give ourselves the time and space to
reflect and then also put ourselves in like a potentially
you know, uncomfortable position of sharing and opening up with
a group of people that maybe you are not not
familiar with, but then seeing what our perspectives have to

(32:43):
offer you. And I definitely left with, you know, five
new I hoped, you know, we can build on from
acquaintance to we're not acquaintances anymore. We can build on
that and at least be supporters and cheerleaders maybe friends.
And they all have such unique interesting journeys and paths
that they're also forging. And I'm just really glad that

(33:06):
I'm glad that I did that for myself. And I
guess my question to y'll be a fan is is
there an opportunity for you to create space to reflect
and to not so much plan or make a strategy,
but to get so put yourself sort of in a
it's not a shark tank, but put yourself in a
room where there's other voices and make yourself like for

(33:30):
yourself to be a little bit vulnerable and to not
have things figured out and to think out loud and
to receive feedback on your vision and your plans and
to it takes a lot of humility, and you got
to leave your ego at the door, because I was
not coming in there like I got this all, figure
it out. I'm just going to tell you all my
great ideas and you're going to validate that. You know,

(33:54):
I had to really like face my own discomfort and
my own like you know, yeah this like gut that's
out of whack and sit through that and then come
out on the other side. And you know, it was
very rewarding. And I hope that maybe hearing me talk
about this, y'all will find your own version of this

(34:16):
or I mean, let me know if you would attend
or come along for a one day retreat maybe with
Brown Ambition in collaboration with a great Amana Altaie from
her book The Ambition Trap. I mean, we have so
much synergy, and I love the way that Amana leads
with her heart, and I think we have a lot
in common. And yeah, I would love to do something

(34:38):
like that. So I mean, be a fam If you're down,
I say, let's make that happen. But in the meantime,
how can you create that space for yourself? And maybe
you can burn a little index card or tissue paper,
but do it safely, don't suit me if something happens,
I didn't tell you, Okay, I'm just saying it's an idea.
You got to like consult an expert, if you know,

(35:00):
like consult the internet. Make sure you're doing it safely.
But yeah, what are you going to release? What are
you going to call in for the new year? And
how are you going to not fix all your problems
in a day, but at least sit with some of
the questions that you have and the challenges that you
have and give yourself the freedom to not have all
the answers right away. That's something that I was trying

(35:22):
to practice last night. And again, I'm going to Kashak
reading a Kashak record reading Novice. That was my very
first experience. I apologize to the Akashak you know, people
and experts if I didn't explain it the best way possible,
But that was my experience. I'm excited to learn more.
Should I get a tarot card reading, y'all? I don't know,

(35:44):
Like I'm kind of in this world now. I've never
done any of those before. It's kind of nerve wracking,
but I think it's just information. I think it's less
about the information you're getting being like a roadmap to
whatever you got to do next, but just like it's
a gut check literally for me. How does what I'm
hearing make me feel? And what does that feeling tell me?

(36:04):
And what with that information? Like using that as information
and data that I can use, you know, while I'm
figuring out my next steps is it's key? All right?
That was my one day Mastermind retreat story. I'm going
to take a quick break, bea fan. Women to come back.
We're gonna talk about some headlines real quick, and then
I will do Brown Boost Brown Break to close this out.

(36:24):
Thank y'all, stick around all right, Hey ba fan, Welcome
back to the show. Welcome back to Brown Ambition. I
wanted to get into some buzzworthy headlines and stories that
I that have been get my blood pressure up. That's
how I kind of judge. Oh, that's the thing I
want to talk about on the show, and a few

(36:45):
things come in mind. I'll start with a good first.
So Jasmine Crocket, the Great Jasmine Crocket from the Great
state of well the the Yeah, it's a great state
of Texas. I mean gave us Beyonce like it's it's
I she is run for her very first Senate to
campaign right now, she's in the House of Representatives. She

(37:05):
just launched her campaign and the ad that she used
was a masterstroke. It's this like very stark sort of
portrait video of her, you know, in profile, looking stunning
as always, and it's a very serious kind of yeah,
very cold, like cool, sleek, you know, mysterious, serious kind

(37:32):
of vibe she's giving off in this video. She's saying
nothing though. What you do here is Trump's voice and
like sound bites from all of the uh, all of
the rants he's because he has targeted her from the jump,
you know, he has he has called her outside her,
you know, outside her, names that she's low IQ, all

(37:53):
this stuff. But they basically took together his sound bites
to create a script that was basically like indoors her
as like the leader of the Democratic Party is pretty
great and I got to give it up to her.
So that that took some you know what, And I'm
wishing her all the success in the world. So shout
out to Jasmine Crockett. I would love if she was

(38:15):
able to win a seat in the Senate. That would
be incredible. The next thing coming up, I mean, not
so great, but related is y'all heard the news that
national parks used to offer free entrance to anyone on
certain days of the year, certain holidays. They have decided

(38:37):
to remove two of those holidays off the free entry list.
And it just so happens those two holidays are for
US Juneteenth and MLK Junior Day. It would have been
you know, insulting enough and infuriating enough if they didn't
also add just like the knife in the side of

(39:00):
making Trump's birthday a free entry day instead.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
I oh god, we can't even have nature, you know,
can't even have a walk amongst the trees for free
a couple times a year.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Then I take that from us too. It's like, we'll
give you access and recognize you, but then we're just
gonna snatch it away when it no longer serves, you know,
our political beliefs and purpose. And the fact that it's
free on his birthday. Ugh, I hope that it's a
day that no one goes to National parks. Just don't go.
And isn't it a joke too? Because we just had

(39:48):
that big government shut down and there were those stories
of like parks departments already being underfunded, but then like
having no staff, and you know too, and it was
all his doing, you know, And it makes absolutely no
sense why he would get a special day of recognition

(40:09):
and then we would have two days of recognition taken
away from us. I think it's and I mean, you
can say it's just a free day at the park,
like admissions like eight bucks. I don't know. But the
point is this is a This is not even a
slippery slope, like this is like a cliff that they're
going over. He's starting to legitimize the erasure of holidays

(40:33):
that we had to fight hard enough for that we're
already in like the not the greatest times of year
we have June DDA, but like we have to fight
for this space and this recognition and then to push
us to out this out this cliff of like, oh,
we're just gonna we're just going to disappear those the
same way we're going to try to disappear you know,

(40:53):
mentions of DEI, mentions of you know, whitewash sanitized the
African American History Museum, you know, the way that he's
editing the exhibits, the way that he is erasing our
contributions from the parks themselves, you know, wanting to sanitize
it and take away the truth, the varying viewpoints of

(41:19):
history that we had to fight so hard to have recognized.
It's a yeah, I'm clocking it. I hope y'all are
clocking it too. And it's really chilling, to be honest,
quite chilling. Now bringing the back up, if y'all go
on TikTok, I want you to do one thing. I
want you to put in your TikTok search bar the
three hour drive and tell me what you find. Because

(41:41):
I was dying and this is an evolving story and
I just want to talk about. So this woman on
TikTok her use your name as the villain you made
and that will become clear. Why. So she's on TikTok
one day, I don't know what she's even posting about,
and this man comments under her post something that is

(42:03):
extremely racist. I won't even bother reading the full thing,
but it's racist and bigoted. And she finds him. First
of all, I don't know how, but but the the
internet slews out there, y'all are some real pis. Okay,
She not only finds him, she drives three hours to
his home or his work, I think knocks on the door,

(42:24):
talks to him and y'all gonna watch You're gonna watch
the video. She's filming it from like her phone, and
I think her phone must be like in her hand
facing up, and she's like, oh, hi, are you are you?
Are you Mike Arnold? Like is that you?

Speaker 2 (42:38):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Ht? Yes? Do you remember commenting on a TikTok post
last week? Oh you don't. Oh, here's that post. Yeah,
that was my post. And here's what you're gonna do.
You're gonna apologize to me. And by the way, I
have a fully written apology I want you to read.
Or I'm going to tell your wife about the grinder

(42:59):
prof file that I found. And the whole time she's
saying this to him, this threat, she is like smiling
a little bit maniacally. Some people have put up like
a meme of of a damn that incredible act. Oh,
I'm so sorry. She played might as c J. Walker.
She played the the best made from the Help, Oh

(43:22):
my god, incredible. Anyway, the woman who played ma you
know that, Like anyway, they put up a meme of that,
and uh, she did like a little scary and and
I don't even know if he actually apologized, but you
can just hear him in the background going like, oh,
I don't feel good about that. She's like, yeah, you
see how she goes. You see how easy it was

(43:43):
for me to find you see how easy that was.
Oh my god, lady, what I don't condone this. At'll
let me be clear, don't do this. That can be
dangerous as hell, you know, just rolling up on somebody
who knows where, who knows who they are, who they got,
and especially as a black woman, I wanted to like
protect her. I'm like, no, honey, get back in the car.

(44:05):
I'm like, this is not worth it. But yeah, it's
gone viral and apparently the last I had seen was
that he's potentially pressing charges for extortion or something like that.
Let me double check. Okay, I've been researching it, and yeah,

(44:25):
I'm just as confused as I ever have been. It
does not see MI. She's been actually arrested. But there's
been some chatter about like is this illegal, is it
like extortion, is it blackmail whatever the case may be,
or is it just some viral stunt and the guy
got what he deserved. Honestly, I'm not condoning this at all,
not because I care about his feelings, but because I
care about our safety and I care about our peace.

(44:47):
This was a bit extreme, but the fact that she
I mean it just it was. It's kind of like
the kind of thing you want to see happen, but
also like I'm so afraid I want her to be safe.
That's what I'm really thinking about. So, de villain, you made,
whatever your name is, I hope that you're taking care
of yourself, protecting your piece, and that you're not letting
this comment or you know, steal any more of your

(45:08):
piece than he's already stolen. He is not worth that,
especially if he's cheating on his name wife okay, and
making it that easy to find him. Wow, But it
was a banner day for the internet. Pis the want
to be pis on the Internet for sure. H r
Iva Fani. I want to close out this show by
giving some love to our listeners. If you want to

(45:29):
leave a review for the show, please please do. You
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(45:52):
this comes from a listener called well Okay, I'm gonna
read your name. Sexy Bell twenty four. Hey, Sexy Bell
twenty four says I'm a new subscriber. This was a
great informative interview. Oh, this was my interview with CJ. Farley,
the author of the incredible novel, the new novel Who
Knows You by Heart, the one where it's like a
Black woman in tech and it's a real It's like

(46:15):
an incredible modern thriller and suspense about you know, what
happens to black people in tech, you know, and also
what's happening to black communities in the age of AI.
It's great, Sexy Bell says a new subscriber. This was
a great informative interview. The follow up question spoke directly
to issues that impact black people in and outside the

(46:37):
tech industries. I need more content like this in my timeline.
Two exclamation points. Thank you, Sexy Bell twenty four. I
really appreciate it. And if you're someone who's comments on YouTube.
Thank you so much for just supporting the show. Make
sure you like, subscribe, share with a friend. It means
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growing there and building the Brown ambition, building out the

(46:58):
BA fam wrong on YouTube. Thank y'all so so much.
All right, I think that's it for me, be a fam.
I got to go get home boy from the bus stop.
But another day I did it a show. I worked
on the book today. So I'm going to tip my
hat to myself and just say, you did the best

(47:19):
you could with the time that you had, and hopefully
you made an impact and people heard your message and
at least at least one person felt something and their
gut that they want to explore deeper, or you know,
maybe felt a spark from something that you said. Then
that's my job well done. So hope that you can
do the same for yourself. What is something that you

(47:40):
want to be gentler with yourself about, you know, today,
through the end of the year and certainly heading into
next year, give yourself your flowers, even if no one
else will, we can give ourselves our own flowers. I
hope you will. I want to give you your flowers.
BA fam, Thank you so much for supporting the show.
I love y'all, love you down, love you deep. Thank

(48:02):
you so much. I'll see y'all next time. Bye, hey
ba fam. Let's be real for a second, and y'all
know I keep it a book. The job market has
been brutal, now not brutal, trash, especially for women of color.
Over three hundred thousand of us have disappeared from the
workforce this year alone, and not by choice, but because

(48:23):
of layoffs, disappearing DEI programs, and stagnant wages that keep
cutting us out of opportunity. Our unemployment rate has jumped
to over seven percent, while our pay gap continues to widen.
I know all of that sounds dire, but here's what
I want y'all to know. You do not have to
wait for the system to save you. That's exactly why

(48:43):
I created the Mandy money Makers Group coaching community. It
is a coaching community that is built for us by us.
Inside the community, we're not just talking about how to
negotiate or to how to get the job that you want.
It's about finding purpose in your career. It's about finding
communities and others, feeling seen, feeling heard, and also having

(49:05):
a sounding board and a mirror to reflect your own magic,
your own sparkle right back to yourself. In this community,
you'll get group coaching led by me, but you also
get peer to peer accountability with proven tools and resources
that can help you do what we have always done
since Rise. Even when the odds are stacked against us,

(49:26):
despite all the challenges, we will rise. If you're interested
in joining the Mandy money Makers community and having that
support to bolster you and help you tap back into
your magic so that you can lead your career with
intention and heart and your own intuition, trusting that again,
please join us. You can find information in the show

(49:48):
notes of today's episodes or go to mandymoney dot com
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I would love to see y'all there. Enrollment is open,
so please go check out mandymoney dot com slash community today. Okay,

(50:08):
va fam, thank you so much for listening to this
week's show. I want to shout out to our production team, Courtney,
our editor Carla, our fearless leader for idea to launch productions.
I want to shout out my assistant Lauda Escalante and
Cameron McNair for helping me put the show together. It
is not a one person project, as much as I

(50:31):
have tried to make it so these past ten years,
I need help y'all, and thank goodness I've been able
to put this team around me to support me on
this journey and to y'all bea fam I love you
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