September 13, 2022 • 47 mins
Leah Remini joins Cheryl as they share divorce war stories. Leah applauds Cheryl for how she’s handling things BUT she definitely has wants her to do a few things differently and one of them sounds a lot like “have sex”. Plus the girls discuss social phobias and what they would do if they ran into their Ex on the street!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
This is Burke in the Game and I heard radio podcast.
Hey guys, welcome back to Burke in the Game. As um,
you guys are very fully aware. Now. UM, I am
back on Dancing with the Stars. But the hard part,
I think, and what I'm dealing with currently is the
anxiety of um having to travel and I am definitely
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gonna be traveling quite a bit this season, and I
just need to, you know, instead of worrying so much
about the future. I realized I get so fixated about
what could happen. Instead, you know, I know intellectually, I
just need to let it be, you know, and people
come into my life, all these partners I've had, and
I definitely can say I've learned something from them. So
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I just it's been really hard for me, I guess
to have an open mind because I get very uncomfortable
with change and uncertainty. Um, But you know, we shall see.
I'm definitely gonna keep you guys posted. I'm gonna be
doing like a diaries um or Burke Blog, whatever you
guys want to call it, and you guys are gonna
hear me in real time basically with you know how
I'm feeling about Obviously, the divorce that I am currently
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still in UM and dealing with, and then on top
of that just change and just being sober at the
same time, which has been interesting. Anyway, We've got a
special special guest, my bestie, Miss Leah Remini, here with
us today and I can't wait to UM talk to her.
Oh look, how beautiful you look? Beautiful? You do? You know?
You do? Hi? Welcome to Burke in the Game. I
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don't know if you ever heard my podcast, but it's
definitely UM. It's it's about my life now and how
I'm dealing with this divorce and eventually hopefully getting me
back to dating again. But before we get to the
dating aspect of it, since you were my matron of
honor for the wedding, I asked, Actually tom Bers Run,
this UM Tombers Run was on and I asked, when
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you were there, did you think that I'd be married forever?
Or did you think that I would be married again
at some point? And he answered the question, now, what
do you think? Okay? I believe that you would stay married,
really because I saw a side of you with that
I hadn't seen. You know, you were very patient and
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loving with him and things that you know, anybody knows me,
including you know, would just would be like deal breakers
for me. But that's me, you know what I mean.
But I just saw a different side of you with him,
and uh for for what. From what I saw, because
everybody doesn't know what goes on in in somebody's relationship
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behind closed doors, from what I saw, there was just
a very um, a mutual understanding of each other's um
downfalls and and by the way, but you know, I've
said this to me, so I'm not, you know, saying
anything that I didn't say to his face. But you
know I said, listen, you know I believe that you know,
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people will bring things to their relationships that is not
the responsibility of your partner to deal with. Like we
we of course have our things. But the older I get,
the more I realize, you know, you just gotta be
happy and working that hard. Um, you know, we should
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all be in therapy. I don't care if you think
you have trauma in your life. I don't care if
you think you're the best person that walk the planet.
You know you need help. We all need help. We're
all bringing something to our relationships and you know you
gotta You've got to be interested in fixing those and uh,
wasn't there yet in that in that place. And also
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I also in defense, don't think just because you're in therapy, Cheryl,
that you're gonna be you know, showing that to the world.
It's like you to be in therapy all day, all night,
and that's another addiction. But it can also not translate
into life like all day all night, we're getting fixed,
we're in therapy, but if you're still an asshole, it's
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not working. Or in my case, I was very jealous
as you saw. No, but I don't I don't know
that that. I'm not saying that. I don't think that
was a factor that was destructive. Yes, you were, you
are that person, and you've admitted that, and it still
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doesn't make it okay. Just when we say like, oh,
this is one thing about me and you're making somebody's
life miserable, you know what I mean. That's but I
saw you get better. I did see that get much better.
But also you when you're not trusting of your partner there,
to me, that's already indicative of something that's already broken.
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You know, I mean, you shouldn't have to be not
saying you're doing this. I'm saying in general, we shouldn't
have to look on you know, phones or shut bills.
If you're doing that already, something's already broken, right, and
I can't recover. You can't recover from it, you think,
or I do. I think you can recover from from things. Listen,
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no one's gonna be perfect. Like I'm never going to
be perfect, Cheryl, even with all my therapy. You're never
going to be perfect, because human beings aren't. It's just
can this is the stuff that I'm bringing, the stuff
you're bringing. Can we manage it right? Can we make
a happy life together and not make each other's lives
miserable on a daily basis? That's what I'm shooting for.
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And I remember as like when we would have these
conversations and you'd come over or I'd come over to you,
It's like, you know, it wasn't it was. I told
you everything. Obviously you saw it as it happened. But
like also, you were very you didn't choose sides at all,
know I Well, there were moments that I did, and
I was on the side sometimes when you got mad
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at me and you go. But I used to say
to you. I am being a friend to you and
being a friendier marriage, and if I see something that
he's right about, I have to let you know. Look
as your friends, you know, like you have to see that,
you know, I and I respect that. I do. I respected.
I'm not not then, but I respect it now. That
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was bullshit if I were to like, really, you know,
back then, back then, I am evolving and I saw that,
and I actually respect you for that because it is important,
as you know, I get and so does people general.
But we have one perspective, and it's important to have
friends that maybe offer you a different perspective and a
different outlook, because I think without that, obviously, you know,
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it just gets one sided and vice yes. And at
the same time too, you know, I wanted to trust
me right as a friend to you both, because if
I was willing to talk about it in a real way,
then I knew that we can get somewhere. But if
you're if you're telling me this is what happened and
it's not exactly what happened, or you're you're you know,
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presenting your case to be right, then we actually really
can't get anywhere. And you don't take any accountability, and
I wanted them to know that I was there for
both of you. I mean certainly in the divorce. You
know you got me in the divorce. I'm not I'm
not running off to best I think I would actually
kill you. Well no, that's just just you know, I
wouldn't kill you. I like your family. I wouldn't kill you.
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Oh my god. Yes. And when we say we're family everybody,
we're not saying that in the Hollywood bullshit way, Like
we go on family vacations with our families together. I
got her ask on an airplane to Hawaii with my family. Wow,
that was a big deal back then. Neither like fly
all the time. Well not by choice because I have to.
Yeah yeah, yeah, So how do you think I'm doing
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through this? Because it's been an emotional roller coaster and
maybe you know, I do know whenever you come to
my house, you're like, I just don't know how you
do it, how you live alone? Yeah? You know, so
you look alone before and you know how to do it.
It's just no, no, no, I just think after the marriage,
I thought it would have been it would have been
harder for you, and it is hard. It's just that
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you don't. You're just you are, You're doing the work.
You're and I've asked you several times, like why don't
you just go have sex with somebody? You're like, no,
I don't want to do that yet you know I
might do that if I was divorced, just to get
out of my system, just to you know what I
mean to to get over the hump, so to speak. Uh.
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And and you seem to be in a very healthy
place where you like, no, I want to get through this,
and you're not. You're not calling me going come up here.
You know I can't sleep, I can't sleep alone. You're
getting through it, and I think you know, you've you've
been doing the work to get here, and I think
it's you. You've gone about it in a very healthy way.
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You know, you're not drinking, you're not having sex and
know the pain. You know what you're still doing is
you know, diamond painting, which I think is your drug.
But but you listen, God bless you if that's what
you gotta do to get through it. But you're you're,
you're you know, you're finding healthy ways to to to
fill your time. You're doing your podcast, going back to
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the dog yes, you know, you do talk to that
dog a lot, even when I'm there, which makes me
think what goes on when I'm not there? Yeah? Actually though, No, no,
you guys, I was sitting there diamond painting, and I mean, like,
I'm there right to keep her company. So and I
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hear Mrs. No, we're not. She gets up, she walks away,
and I'm just, I'm just, I'm just I'm just sitting there.
She's having a conversation on the door. I'm talking about
I forget it. Yeah, I'm dying painting, but I'm dying
painting for you. I'm not dying because I need to
diamond paint. I'm dying paint this. I'm talking with you
and Mrs. And then she goes off to the other
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air of the house, and you know, I could see it,
hear them. The dog is not saying anything. It's a dog, okay.
The dog isn't even barking at her. And she's talking
back like the dog is talking. She's like, no, no,
do you want to go in your room, because that's
what's gonna happen. Didn't that happen yesterday? That's right? Because
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white and then goes into a whole story about what
she did, like letting the dog know again, remember yesterday
what happened. That's why I had to put you on
a time out. And I'm just literally sitting there and
I was like, sorry, I know I'm talking to this dog,
But like I did, I think yes, and I think
there's a lot more that goes on behind closed doors.
Like actually I told you I sing now I should
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write Lulla Byes toy. Cheryl thinks she should write Lulla
Byes for the dog. She thinks she's a song writer now,
but don'tually impress of my Listen. And then when I
said pull one out, you were like, it's not done.
It's not I can't even remember it now. I need
to have a dog in front of me. This dog
is my human being, my child. My child means the
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world to me, So I understand. Listen. Like I said,
whatever you have to do that is not hurting you
or your life to get through it, then I am
old for it. And I think you're doing a great job.
All right. What did Tom said? Tom said, no, he
didn't think we were going to last really straight up, Um,
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he just knew that he would be attending another wedding
at some at some point, yes, yes, because I did
mention the fact that I appreciated he was there because
he didn't go to any other dancers weddings. And then
I was like, so, actually, I'm curious because I knew
you're gonna answer it honestly and truthfully. Did you think
that this was going to last? And he basically straight
up and said, now, yeah, So do you ever worry
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about me that I'm here single and sitting alone in
my home? Or I mean, yeah, I do think, Cheryl,
that I think it's healthy. Yes, I mean for the
amount of because you were doing it before, you know,
like when you when you got married, um, you know,
created a zoo in your house, like literally a hose
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and then which another thing too, which I thought was amazing,
Like I would be like, listen, man, when you said
you had a lizard, I didn't know you meant like
ten twenty of these things and that you would be
attending to them all day and night. Um, but you
know he is that person, you know where he he
that that's what he dedicated his time to mainly was
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he was in the in the zoo and you so
naturally when when you know your your friends get a
boyfriend a girlfriend, they get married, you know, you assume
your friendship is going to be put on the back burner.
And that's totally natural, and nobody should ever give anybody
should about being in love and being totally into it. Okay,
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but you two were like, hold up in that house together. Now,
if you told me, listen, we have sex old day,
you know, like we're doing our thing. We don't want
the outside world in for the first couple of months.
But what it was was you were upstairs diamond painting
and he was downstairs in the zoo. The pandemic and
I'm not exaggerating, no, you're not at all. And and
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I still didn't, you know, if I wanted to see you,
you know, I had to come up there. And there
was a problem with you leaving the house. I don't
exactly know what it was. I could only assuse the pandemic,
I know, but people were still like getting like going
to each other's backyards, you know what I mean, and
still like trying to live some kind of life. And
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but even after that, you know, it was like you
got very used to saying in that house and I'm
scared now that he's gone, because it's it's continuing that
I'm well, now you've got the dog, and now that
the dog and the dog is the excuse now for
you not leaving the house ever, you know what I mean,
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It's like it's it's you're stuck in the house. I
definitely have sociophobia that I get. Right, we talked about this.
I get a couple of weeks ago, like you do too,
for the five minutes you talk to me and not
the dog. Yes, oh my god, you also experienced. Can
you tell me what sociophobia means to you? To me
what it means? Well, I'm sure there's a technical truth. No,
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but look up. No, I mean I know what it means.
But I'm just saying for our listeners, like what what
for me? It's this for me? It's this for me.
It's this if if somebody says, hey, like right now,
I have an invitation on the table from some friends
to go to dinner. Right they wrote me at like
seven this morning and I have not yet. I have
yet to answer because no, for fr because I don't
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know where this place is. I start to obsess about
what I'm gonna wear, if I could fit into anything.
Because I gain weight. And then the hours process that
takes me to get ready, not because that's the time
I require. It's because of the phobia of leaving the
not the phobia, but the anxiety around leaving the house.
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I will give myself sometimes three or four hours to
get ready. I will take a shower, I'll sit there,
I'll look at my phone. I'll let my hair dry
a little bit. Then I blow dry my hair. Then
I answer my chats or emails, and I go downstairs.
I think, you know, you know, around the and I
curse around the house, and you know. And I give
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myself all of this breathing time because that I can't
just get ready and go. It will give me too
much anxiety totally. So I give myself hours and hours
of a foxing around and making sure. Then I gotta
think about what I want to wear, and do I
feel fatt in it? What if I sit like this,
my fat's gonna roll over, I'm gonna feel and then
I'm gonna sit there hating myself, even though I'm going
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to order a thing of bread, even though I feel
that way. And of course you're gonna order the postible
because that's like what you're gonna do, But why are
you gonna order postile? You don't already feel good about yourself?
Why do you? And then the conversation what do you
totally like? It goes and then getting their hard pal plications.
If I'm going by myself of walking into a restaurant,
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having everybody by the way, no one's looking at Okay,
so I don't even want to pretend I'm not even
in like the TV. But this is not somebody thinking
as a celebrity, and not even for one second, right,
just that when you have insecurities going places right, and
also I don't feel safe, I'm like, is there gonna
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be somebody gonna hold us up? What you think? Okay,
I gotta remember running this zigzag? If somebody shooting, where's
the right? Where us the tables facing the back? I
want to be in the bed. Well, I don't want
to be near so near the back, because then they'll
shoot me on the way out, and then they'll see
me run because at them they're facing me and I'm
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all the way in the back. That's what they're gonna
look at any movement. So these are the that But Suyll,
I actually think when I walk into a restaurant again,
not ego, not because I am in the TV, bet
just because of this anxiety. I think everybody's staring at me.
While is she wearing that Look at her? Look her
jeans don't even fit. This bitch is still wearing those
jeans that don't even fet her. She's probably gonna order
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the bread. They all know what I'm you know, I mean,
everybody's looking at exhaust. But but then when you look
around the restaurant, no one is looking at the two ships.
No one gives uh actual ship. Then finally, when I
get to my seat and I'm like comfortable, and I'm like,
I don't know why I don't do this more often?
Oh my god, right, No, I know. I by the way,
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same thing, the same thing script happens in my head.
But really we're only like a minute. We're like a
tiny speck in this big old universe, and no one
gives a ship a ship. A matter of fact, it's
the opposite, okay, when you you know what, I did
my road trip with my mom and and the Trish,
my Nanni and my mom, like we would do the drives,
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of course, And then I'd asked the question to the
car would you rather write? The question was would you
rather be rich or famous? And I was like, they
all said rich, right, but I said, Okay, So I
know this is gonna sound really like cheesy and Pollyanna. However,
you can't put a price tag on somebody being affected
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by you walking by your walking in the room. And
if you're in the entertainment business and you love what
you do and you're not a complete packing asshole, you
are somewhat aware of the world going on around you.
And I do see people excited too, like, oh my god,
she's from King of Queen, Like I see the bases
light up, and when I'm not, when I'm actually like
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available to see that, Oh my god. You and Kevin
made me laugh when I was going through chemo. And
You're like, when you think about that, think about what
you do and that you can actually affect a room.
And I've been with you when people have done the
same to you, like Cherylie, you're my favorite dancer. You
inspired my daughter to dance, or you inspired me to dance.
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You know when you think about those things, I mean
it is that is a beautiful gift to be able
to give and get because when those moments happy happened.
I'm like, you're such a you're thinking about your fat
over you Jens, stupid, selfish asshole. Look how this person
You made this person so happy and cry and just
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be so moved by your work. Yeah, and it's mean something,
you know. So it's like, yes, so I do have
that social So would you rather be rich or famous?
Well it's easy to say that when you have money, right,
Well yeah, yeah, but I would rather I would rather
be able to make an effect on somebody, and I
don't want to. Yeah, so if those were my choices,
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But listen, if somebody said, would you rather be like
on the street, nobody know? You want to? I want money?
You can still be famous and broke. Well yeah, I
mean that's true. We know that we've been there. It
ain't that glamorous. Um, So you know, it's just so
I get the sociophobia, So I think I do, so
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do so. Sociophobia is literally being so self centered in
a way, right that you think everybody is looking at
you and judging you. Yeah, but I don't think it's
I don't think it's the first thing you said, self centered, Yeah,
because it's actually a personality disorder it's not. Essentially, it's
nels yeah, and I've been there, and it has nothing
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to do with you being self center. Has to do
with you being the opposite self center and being insecure
and being insecure and just it's all fear based, right,
fear of just being maybe judged, or fear of just
being in a big group of people because you just
never know what's going to happen. Just there's it's all
underlying fear. And yet and yet when I go and
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I'm with friends and I'm laughing and I'm looking around
and I'm and I'm like, you're safe, You're safe, Like
I have to say that you're safe, You're safe. I'm
happy that I'm there, and I'm proud of myself that
I left the house because you know, I'm very similar
to you in that way, Like I don't want to
leave my house either. But I'm trying to grow now,
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trying When friends say do you want to go to dinner,
I'm starting to say yes. It's living in the uncertainty,
which is in a way beautiful. But I think I
also battle with my sobriety because I did go out
with a few friends at night to a restaurant and
I got triggered because you know, I don't mind people
drink in front of me, but when they drink and
then there's like another drink and then there's another drink,
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I want to drink, right, and so I think I'm
battling between the two. I guess, yeah, no, that makes sense.
I mean I can't speak about that or or say
anything because it's it's a real thing, and it's something
that people have to work through, and it's getting to
a place where you know you don't want that drink
or you do want the drink and you don't have it.
To me, that's a success. You know, it's just getting
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yourself out of the situation or or or getting through
it because you didn't see. To me, you did it.
So to me it's like you're triggered. What you what?
You worked past it? So to me, I go success
that that was a success. That's a good perspective. You've
covered it, you conquered it. Yeah, you didn't drink, right,
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you know, you didn't do anything. How much have I
changed since seasons? And my voice just squeaked since season seventeen,
the like from the moment you met me versus the
woman I am today or evolved, I guess not changed.
Well you listen, the thing is you you have been
uh like I said, I listen. I fell in love
with you when you were drinking, right, And it's not
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like when you got sobers, like who's this girl? You
know you've been because you're You've always been to the
core who you are, even even then you were you
took you know, you were my friend throughout that whole show.
You know, you and Tony at were there for me
the whole time. Um. So so I again, I didn't
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know that you want those things, you know, those you know,
and because I started drinking because I just love scientology.
You know, it's like this amazing Why is anybody? Can
you please tell the story of the of the d
I check? Okay, okay, So we we had some wine,
um and it was in already, it was in a
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contain nor so I just thought, oh, we're gonna bring
it to the next place, not realizing I wasn't drinking
in the car wasn't but we had it. It was open. Yeah.
So I don't want anybody to think that we are
drinking and driving because we weren't. But I had no idea.
So When we came up to the truck point, you
were like, holy sh it, um, there's a checkpoint and
I'm like yeah, and you know, just driving music up
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and you go, we have this open bottle in the car.
And I'm like, but we're not drinking it, and you're like,
idiots a check point. You're like, you can't have an
open bottle of wine in the car. And I was like, wait,
but we're not drinking it. I kept going, I kept
saying that to you, like they're rolling up by the
top and I think they're gonna get that. I'm not lying.
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Like the once I tell them like, oh, we have
an open bottle, but we're not drinking. We're just bringing
it to our friends who we're going to Floridita. And
you're like, they don't you can't have an open bottle
of wine in the car. And I was like what sure,
And we're pulling up and then he stops us. The
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cop stop flat, Yes he does, and he's like, have
you guys been drinking? And I go, well, not yet.
We're about you though, because we have this end struggles.
We're good, by the way, that's not the story. Stop lying.
He's like, is that wait, I know your face. I
know you. He recognized you. Thank god he recognized you,
or else he would have checked the car. No, because
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I was gonna say I was gonna say the truth,
thinking that that would have gotten me out of like
any kind of trouble if he was thinking that we
were drinking and I was gonna over explain myself, which
is not the smartest thing to do. It's not And
that's when he was like, wait a minute. You were
like and you were like, shut up, yeah, yeah, stopped
talking would be great, and just keep it moving because
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you kept the conversation going. Even though he cleared us,
I kept talking to him. I was like, he could
smell your breath. Stop talking. Okay, Moving on to dating.
I refused to use a dating app, don't want to,
and I'm still not ready to date now when I
am ready? Now? Wait, first of all, is that okay
that I'm not ready to date? You think? How do
you do? You have any opinion about that? I think
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that's when you're ready, you know. It's like that there's
like that story about like you know when your mother
used to say, oh, you can't go in the water
yet because you had tun a fish sandwich. Oh, how long?
What did you eat for lunch? Oh? I had a hamburger? Well,
and you can go in now. But like it's so random.
It's like there's no real role to dating. There isn't
you know. I mean, like if you want to date
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in a week, in a year, you know, that's on you.
And do you think I should date multiple people? I've
been you know, Patty Stinger was on She's playing their matchmaker,
and she said that I should date a pool of men,
and I don't know how to do that because I'm
a serial monogamous. I think you should, uh learn to
audition people. You're not good at auditioning people. I just
think you need to. You you're very forgiving, which is
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weird because you're very judgmental when it comes to vent.
You know, I had other and other things. I have
other friends, like you would do the same thing, and
and I do the same thing with friends, you know,
you know right, I do this. I do it with friends. Um,
so we all have our things. So you're just not
good at saying, uh, that happens, and that's a deal
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breaker for me. Yeah, I'm learning, Yeah, and then audition
them and then onto the next one is supposed to
getting comfortable, getting into a routine with that person, and
then all of a sudden, you're like living together and
now we're getting married. After he did the deal breakers,
after he continued to perfect, I think you need to
know that. Listen. Some people that it's Hey, I don't
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mind if a guy wears borking stocks for me, it's
a deal breaker for me. I'm just saying for me
because the fact that you thought that was a notation. Ever,
nothing gets working stock. I think there's a person who
should wear them. Okay, but that person I would never
have sex with. Okay, so that's my deal breaker. Okay,
that's my girl that wears Bergen side that is also Yeah,
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I hear you that it wasn't a girl that would
be a deal breaker for me, Like that wouldn't be
okay with me. So but that's me. But that's me.
Okay if you are rude to wait, actually though, it's
a deal breaker. Seriously, Like if you were dating if
a man walked into your home with a pair of
bargain stocks, you'd be like, I don't want to can't
do it. Wow, I couldn't do it. Mine is cologne too,
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Like you have to love cologne. That's another one on
my list. You have a more serious ones, Okay, serious ones.
If you're rude to service people, people in service industry,
says a lot about you. If you're horrible to your
mother or um, anybody who was your m uh what
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am I looking at the word Jesus Christ caretaker? Anybody?
You know if you if you do not take care
of the people who took care of you. UM, not
kind to children and animals. UM, not a good very
uptight you know, not a good sense of humor. UM
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takes himself seriously or herself seriously. Cheating, you know, cheating, Um,
it depends if you have kids with the person. Um,
it's harder to to disengage and break up your life
depending on the age of the child. And also I
used to believe that cheating was that was a deal breaker.
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And when you get older, you realize, you know, that's
really not about you, that's about that person. And we
we we open this up talking about what you're bringing
to the relationship. And UM, if that's something that that
you're doing, you're doing it because there's some stuff in
your life that you haven't dealt with and it has
nothing to do with the other person. So it's not
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a deal breaker for you. You have kids. Well, I
don't know. I mean, I think cheating happens um and
then there's a there's another reason for it. So I'd
have to really have a long term love for you
and care for you to overlook it. But it would
it would take a lot of work on their parts
to build back to trust and so trust and lying
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and all of that. Is that a deal? Of course,
of course trust you have to trust the person you're with.
But I also don't, uh, like I said, I don't.
I don't think checking phones and all this stuff that's
already and that's what there's already, we're already initial. Yeah, yeah,
So what was the question you asked? What what are
your deal of? That's that but but for you, But
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for you, I just think you need to I don't
see you being a data because again you're in the
public eye. I don't think it's very easy for you
to date several men, you know, because this town in general,
you know, the world in general, looks you know, will
to you look look to this one out here. I meanwhile,
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guys do it all day, all night. Yeah, he's not
a whore. No, he's not. And by the way, though
I do get very consumed, and you're right, I tend
to not all of a sudden my boundaries are gone, right,
like because I get like, oh, I want to marry him,
him like high makes to meet you. Oh you have
sex with me, I fall in love quick. So you're screwed. Now.
If I was dating a pool of men, I think
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that not necessarily to have sex with all of them.
But like I think I wouldn't be so fixated on one.
Exactly what when you're saying dating, okay, let's just change
the word. I feel like it should just be like
you're seeing seeing what's there? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
but you can't be going out with this one, going
out with that one to get pictures with this guy.
But you know, it's it's to me, it's you're you're
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then living your life in the public eye, which not
you know you aren't. We though, Well that's why I'm saying.
It's a little bit like as a woman like that,
it's a little bit harder for you. Yeah, you can't.
Well that's one two is you can't live your life privately.
They'll be like, oh what happened to you know whatever?
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You know, Well, what do you mean we're out to
dinner with right? Right? Right? That's why everything has to
be done inside at home. Well, unfortunately, this is where
I would say, you stay at home? Yeah, exactly. So
you do agree that if I could do it eventually
to date more than just one person, because I'm saying
I'm sorry, see c C. See what's going down. You
have a dinner, you talk BLA, You see how he
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really is. You see what's really good? What's your situation
with your mother? What's your situation with your sisters? What
do you talk to your family? Do you go home
for the holidays? You know, you start to find out
what kind of person you're dealing with. And then I
have to bring him to you too, because to know, Cheryl,
do you value a man who goes home for the
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holidays to see his family? Yes, you do. And if
he's like, no, I don't do that ship you know
it's too much, you'd be like, you just need to
know what those things are for yourself. You should actually
write down very specific things, because I know you you'll
change your mind. You'll be like, well, I that wasn't
that important. I mean totally, because I'll be like, oh
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my god, this is the guy you like. Did you
have sex with him? Yep? See, I screwed. Like I
almost think this whole like it's been a year, by
the way, since I haven't had sex. Okay, well, I
feel like the sex thing. That's a different conversation. I
do think I have sex. I mean I do have
I'm not I have a braider. I'm talking about with
a person. No, I can't. I fall in love. Wow,
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then you should hire somebody. I can't hire a prostitute.
Is that what? Yes, I'll fall in love with the prostitute.
But he's but he's in a business, so he can't.
I bet you. I couldna say, how did you mommy?
How did you meet daddy? Well, mommy paid for him. No,
I wish you could pay for love, don't you what?
I wish we could pay for love. Yeah, it would
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be like the perfect We would have so much love.
I mean, twelve o'clock. I need you to be here
at twelve o'clock and then leave by twelve and you're
on my payroll. Yeah, and goodbye, goodbye, good day, good day. Um.
If I so, if you were to set me up
with a man. What is who is my type? What
is my type? Okay? I would set you up with
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a guy who is funny. Men, she who's a mench?
What's that? Men? Just somebody who's like a good guy,
a decent guy. He's mench. Men, he's not horrible. Look
it up. I will read it, read it, read read
the definition of all the place? Oh, I know men, men,
she's the president. Okay, I would put I would want
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you to be with a guy who doesn't put up
with your ship, who doesn't allow you to talk away
the reasons why you're saying this or doing that? Right?
Can I just tell you the definition? The word mensch
in Yiddish is someone to admire and emulate, someone of
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noble character. I like that word. Yes, I want to.
I want a guy who laughs at your bullshit when
you're really mad and really thinking that what you're saying
is making sense, that literally laughs at you and loves
you through it, but doesn't feel like he needs to
put his foot down to show you who's the man
you know you're like going, Does it make sense for
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you to have gone here and there? If you knew
we had to be here? And he just grabs your
face and says, baby, so cute. When you're mad, we're
gonna be on time. Like you need a guy who
doesn't get caught up in feeling like he needs to
put you in your place or compete like who's right?
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Saying yeah, exactly, it just goes you're right, baby, you
you just be mad, but it's still I love you.
And what do you want to eat? You know, like
doesn't get into so confident, confident but also just able
to rise above his own um need to be right
or need to put Like I said, I don't like
men who think they need to put strong women in
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their place. What's their place? Not strong? That's what you
that's what you're insinuating that we should not you need
you need to take me down and not to show
me I'm not as strong as I think I am
right right, because that's really that's that's just doesn't make
anyone feel good. So and and you know, handsome UM
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cares about himself, but not so much that it overtakes
his life. UM loves his family, wants a family, loves
your family, surprises you with things that he knows you
love and knows that make you tick, which are not
things what makes you take his thoughtful things. You like
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things that have to do that are around your family.
You like things that are beautiful. You like to go
and have experiences at beautiful places, and you want to
be thought of. I mean, I know that I'm probably
saying things that are universal to people, but there are
people in the world who really don't give a shit about,
(37:16):
you know, going places. They don't give a shit about
you know, things like yeah, my thing with I like
to be with my man and not my film. Well,
that's just not you. You like to you like to
be around your family, and you like to have experiences
with your family there, especially during the holidays. It's like
something that it's it's just not something that you you know,
(37:38):
you like your separate time, but you also you want
you would rather your family be there if it's something
to like experience. Yeah, like I I want memories. I
don't necessarily need more things exactly exactly, And you like
when people think about things that are actually real for
your life, like what about the dog? Did anybody think
about that? Did anybody think that? You know, somebody needs
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to be at the house. So when you know, if
I'm not there and you know who's house sitting and like,
you know, things that you know you usually take care of.
I think you would like someone to share in those
responsibilities of your life that you didn't have to think
of everything, plan everything, pay for everything. And I think
that's you know, you know something that you should think
(38:21):
about in moving forward, is it's okay to want somebody
who's established. I'm not saying you want someone to support you,
because you would never do that, um, but like to
have his own stuff, his own life, his own stuff,
and also like to put his foot down in certain
ways like not secure, yeah, and not allow you to
(38:44):
to go down that road like babe, here, here's where
I'm gonna be and I'm gonna be there probably all night,
and you're gonna have to get through this, my darling,
not yet, but you would set me up right when
I set you up. Of course I would set you up.
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But you know again, this guy has to be mentioned.
To be in the business, has to be mentioned. No,
it doesn't have to be in the business. As a
matter of fact, I would prefer somebody not in the business,
like a neuroscientist, yeah, or even just somebody has their
own thing that has nothing to do with with the business,
you know, successful and construction. It could be anything. That's
just Um, I would not choose for you somebody who's
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in the Hollywood scene at all. And I mean like
a club owner been there, yep, uh, you know in
that world. That's another thing while we're talking about, because
the Hollywood scene is some is some bullshit, and uh,
it's a rare a person who owns, you know, a
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club or restaurant in California, in Hollywood that that isn't
used to a certain person who wants something from them.
And so when they meet somebody who doesn't, they don't
exactly know how to treat those women. And um, they're
just also in the name game, you know what I mean,
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bring your friends, bring you know, that's kind of douche bag.
It's hard to have sex with somebody who's always trying
to get ahead, you know, it's it's you know for
us type people that's it doesn't it's not good. Do
you think I should date it down their dancer? No,
thank you. By the way dancers are, I would say
even worse than actors. Why, Um, just I think the lifestyle, Cheryl,
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the way you guys grow up, I think it's really
it's a really hard growing up. It's not like most
people think about like, oh, you know, I had my
daughter in ballet and tap, you know what I mean.
But I was leaving my daughter there and like, hey,
go make some money and I live in another country
at age twelve, and then putting you know, makeup on
(40:57):
and you know those those outfits for young women. Um.
The men are dominant in this world in a way
that I've never seen before. It it's it's right for abuse.
And uh, there's probably not one person that I've met
female in this dance world that has not been sexually um,
(41:21):
molested or or or raped or taken advantage of mentally. Um.
Because you guys are so young and we are we
are like so intimate, grown into a world. But like
basically your parents are like all right, go be a
ballroom dancer. I'm not saying all but I'm just saying
I've heard enough story now that it would worry me
(41:44):
to think about a young woman being put in this
in this world. Um, And I think the guard clearly
comes up very early. When you have trauma like that
in your life, you're gonna be guarded. You're gonna learn
to put on a face you're and learn to put
on makeup and glitter over bruises literally and figuratively, and um,
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that has a way of really having an effect on
your hearts. And the men in that world are used
to telling women what to do in a way that
I've never experienced. Yeah, so I think a lot of
men in the dance world don't think it's a man's
world obviously, but no, they know it's a man's world.
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They always tell you, you know, like they take your
hand first, right, they lead you. Their first thing is
to push you back, that's that's that's what they do,
or pull you forward. So that subliminal message us to
a young to a young man, right full of testacerone
when you know, it says a lot, right and the
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female needs to be led and it's okay, it's a
beautiful thing. And I'm sure there's beautiful relationships out there.
I'm sure there are some dancers not been through this
in their life. But for dance or what you do
to your bodies, the breakdown of your bodies, what's demanded
of you, and then the short lived career if you're
not lucky enough to be on dancing with the Stars.
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That's why I say I love dancers because I know
from hearing all of your stories what you go through
when you were children, what you have to be and
do to get to the level of dancers that you are,
and it's not easy. And then you know your career
is over when they say you're done. You're done, when
they say you have an achieved Blackpool. At a certain age,
(43:32):
the whole dance world is saying, look at this asshole
trying to dance at age forty. You know what I mean.
It's it's it's it's extremely judgmental, um, and it's it's
it's a hard life. But I know people dance because
they love it, because I love it, and I'm not
a competitor. Is that why you don't compete? Oh? I could? Well?
Could you imagine look at Leah Remedy on the dance
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floor competing, Like what an asshole I would be. But
you have, you have improved so much as a dancer,
Like I just was there when you were dancing with
Jonathan Plottero and you guys, oh my god, you would die.
You'd be a different person going on to dancing at
the Stars. Like I just didn't want you to say
this because I've been pitching to Dina Cats, the executive
(44:15):
producer of Dancing with the Stars, for the last how
many years. However, since it started, well, since I got
voted off, I've been saying, I want to revenge season.
How great would have revenge season be? Where you can
like pick two people can pick like okay, like I'd
have to pick somebody from my season? Who got a pick?
Rob Kardashian, would you, yeah, a second, we should have won?
(44:41):
You mean you? But who would you pick to go
up against in your season? Who won? Freaking j R? Martinez? Right?
So then you would battle you and it's not fair.
Rob would battle? Yes? And Karina? Yes? Battle. I want
to do um Amber wow and Derek right and dear?
(45:04):
But could you imagine what a great season though? That
would be really good. I also think they should do
a season of injured people that couldn't have you know
what I mean? But I love that. I love you.
What do you want to go to dinner? Frindy or no?
Oh yeah, let's do it a liar? No, seriously, I
think I can let me chek my calendar says talk
to my dog. But other than that, I'm available. Thanks
(45:36):
to my bestie Leah Remini for coming on always saying
the reality of the situation. Um, but I just love
I love her for who she is and how she
keeps it real and she I think she gave some
really good advice actually, And sometimes it's like really fun
to interview your friend because you know you have to
like actually listen. Sometimes I'm not a really good listener
and I talk over her, which she hates. Um, which
(45:58):
I know you guys have witness is to her on
the pod. But it's just excitement as always anyone who
thanks again to Leah. Make sure you guys check her
out on People Puzzler Monday through Friday. And um, I
hope she said a judge for next season, so you
think you can dance? I thought she was great. Anyway,
let's move on. At the end of every episode, we
need to ask the listeners the question of the week,
(46:20):
which is, how do you handle your friends not approving
your significant other? Is it a deal breaker? Why? So?
I don't have like tons of friends. If I'm going
to answer this question, I they do have to go through,
like Leah and maybe a couple of other people that
I respect, you know, their opinion. So I definitely would
want them to meet my significant other, but I'm not sure. See,
(46:43):
like I said, I get very my old old CHERYLD
would get very fixated on this one person because I
would have already made up my mind whether or not
my friends liked him was probably irrelevant. But now the
CHERYLD today, definitely I would take that into consideration because
your friends no you well and they know you more
than your significant other. Um, so it is something to
(47:05):
take into consideration, I would say, for sure, and obviously
have a conversation with your friend and ask why, and
if they're all legit answers, you know, you might want
to just take a step back and um, and you know,
scope the situation out. Anyway, I'd love to hear from
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This is Burke in the Game and I heard radio podcast.
Hey guys, welcome back to Burke in the Game. As um,
you guys are very fully aware. Now. UM, I am
back on Dancing with the Stars. But the hard part,
I think, and what I'm dealing with currently is the
anxiety of um having to travel and I am definitely
(00:26):
gonna be traveling quite a bit this season, and I
just need to, you know, instead of worrying so much
about the future. I realized I get so fixated about
what could happen. Instead, you know, I know intellectually, I
just need to let it be, you know, and people
come into my life, all these partners I've had, and
I definitely can say I've learned something from them. So
(00:47):
I just it's been really hard for me, I guess
to have an open mind because I get very uncomfortable
with change and uncertainty. Um, But you know, we shall see.
I'm definitely gonna keep you guys posted. I'm gonna be
doing like a diaries um or Burke Blog, whatever you
guys want to call it, and you guys are gonna
hear me in real time basically with you know how
I'm feeling about Obviously, the divorce that I am currently
(01:10):
still in UM and dealing with, and then on top
of that just change and just being sober at the
same time, which has been interesting. Anyway, We've got a
special special guest, my bestie, Miss Leah Remini, here with
us today and I can't wait to UM talk to her.
Oh look, how beautiful you look? Beautiful? You do? You know?
You do? Hi? Welcome to Burke in the Game. I
(01:33):
don't know if you ever heard my podcast, but it's
definitely UM. It's it's about my life now and how
I'm dealing with this divorce and eventually hopefully getting me
back to dating again. But before we get to the
dating aspect of it, since you were my matron of
honor for the wedding, I asked, Actually tom Bers Run,
this UM Tombers Run was on and I asked, when
(01:56):
you were there, did you think that I'd be married forever?
Or did you think that I would be married again
at some point? And he answered the question, now, what
do you think? Okay? I believe that you would stay married,
really because I saw a side of you with that
I hadn't seen. You know, you were very patient and
(02:17):
loving with him and things that you know, anybody knows me,
including you know, would just would be like deal breakers
for me. But that's me, you know what I mean.
But I just saw a different side of you with him,
and uh for for what. From what I saw, because
everybody doesn't know what goes on in in somebody's relationship
(02:39):
behind closed doors, from what I saw, there was just
a very um, a mutual understanding of each other's um
downfalls and and by the way, but you know, I've
said this to me, so I'm not, you know, saying
anything that I didn't say to his face. But you
know I said, listen, you know I believe that you know,
(02:59):
people will bring things to their relationships that is not
the responsibility of your partner to deal with. Like we
we of course have our things. But the older I get,
the more I realize, you know, you just gotta be
happy and working that hard. Um, you know, we should
(03:20):
all be in therapy. I don't care if you think
you have trauma in your life. I don't care if
you think you're the best person that walk the planet.
You know you need help. We all need help. We're
all bringing something to our relationships and you know you
gotta You've got to be interested in fixing those and uh,
wasn't there yet in that in that place. And also
(03:44):
I also in defense, don't think just because you're in therapy, Cheryl,
that you're gonna be you know, showing that to the world.
It's like you to be in therapy all day, all night,
and that's another addiction. But it can also not translate
into life like all day all night, we're getting fixed,
we're in therapy, but if you're still an asshole, it's
(04:08):
not working. Or in my case, I was very jealous
as you saw. No, but I don't I don't know
that that. I'm not saying that. I don't think that
was a factor that was destructive. Yes, you were, you
are that person, and you've admitted that, and it still
(04:29):
doesn't make it okay. Just when we say like, oh,
this is one thing about me and you're making somebody's
life miserable, you know what I mean. That's but I
saw you get better. I did see that get much better.
But also you when you're not trusting of your partner there,
to me, that's already indicative of something that's already broken.
(04:52):
You know, I mean, you shouldn't have to be not
saying you're doing this. I'm saying in general, we shouldn't
have to look on you know, phones or shut bills.
If you're doing that already, something's already broken, right, and
I can't recover. You can't recover from it, you think,
or I do. I think you can recover from from things. Listen,
(05:12):
no one's gonna be perfect. Like I'm never going to
be perfect, Cheryl, even with all my therapy. You're never
going to be perfect, because human beings aren't. It's just
can this is the stuff that I'm bringing, the stuff
you're bringing. Can we manage it right? Can we make
a happy life together and not make each other's lives
miserable on a daily basis? That's what I'm shooting for.
(05:37):
And I remember as like when we would have these
conversations and you'd come over or I'd come over to you,
It's like, you know, it wasn't it was. I told
you everything. Obviously you saw it as it happened. But
like also, you were very you didn't choose sides at all,
know I Well, there were moments that I did, and
I was on the side sometimes when you got mad
(05:58):
at me and you go. But I used to say
to you. I am being a friend to you and
being a friendier marriage, and if I see something that
he's right about, I have to let you know. Look
as your friends, you know, like you have to see that,
you know, I and I respect that. I do. I respected.
I'm not not then, but I respect it now. That
(06:20):
was bullshit if I were to like, really, you know,
back then, back then, I am evolving and I saw that,
and I actually respect you for that because it is important,
as you know, I get and so does people general.
But we have one perspective, and it's important to have
friends that maybe offer you a different perspective and a
different outlook, because I think without that, obviously, you know,
(06:43):
it just gets one sided and vice yes. And at
the same time too, you know, I wanted to trust
me right as a friend to you both, because if
I was willing to talk about it in a real way,
then I knew that we can get somewhere. But if
you're if you're telling me this is what happened and
it's not exactly what happened, or you're you're you know,
(07:07):
presenting your case to be right, then we actually really
can't get anywhere. And you don't take any accountability, and
I wanted them to know that I was there for
both of you. I mean certainly in the divorce. You
know you got me in the divorce. I'm not I'm
not running off to best I think I would actually
kill you. Well no, that's just just you know, I
wouldn't kill you. I like your family. I wouldn't kill you.
(07:30):
Oh my god. Yes. And when we say we're family everybody,
we're not saying that in the Hollywood bullshit way, Like
we go on family vacations with our families together. I
got her ask on an airplane to Hawaii with my family. Wow,
that was a big deal back then. Neither like fly
all the time. Well not by choice because I have to.
Yeah yeah, yeah, So how do you think I'm doing
(07:59):
through this? Because it's been an emotional roller coaster and
maybe you know, I do know whenever you come to
my house, you're like, I just don't know how you
do it, how you live alone? Yeah? You know, so
you look alone before and you know how to do it.
It's just no, no, no, I just think after the marriage,
I thought it would have been it would have been
harder for you, and it is hard. It's just that
(08:21):
you don't. You're just you are, You're doing the work.
You're and I've asked you several times, like why don't
you just go have sex with somebody? You're like, no,
I don't want to do that yet you know I
might do that if I was divorced, just to get
out of my system, just to you know what I
mean to to get over the hump, so to speak. Uh.
(08:43):
And and you seem to be in a very healthy
place where you like, no, I want to get through this,
and you're not. You're not calling me going come up here.
You know I can't sleep, I can't sleep alone. You're
getting through it, and I think you know, you've you've
been doing the work to get here, and I think
it's you. You've gone about it in a very healthy way.
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You know, you're not drinking, you're not having sex and
know the pain. You know what you're still doing is
you know, diamond painting, which I think is your drug.
But but you listen, God bless you if that's what
you gotta do to get through it. But you're you're,
you're you know, you're finding healthy ways to to to
fill your time. You're doing your podcast, going back to
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the dog yes, you know, you do talk to that
dog a lot, even when I'm there, which makes me
think what goes on when I'm not there? Yeah? Actually though, No, no,
you guys, I was sitting there diamond painting, and I mean, like,
I'm there right to keep her company. So and I
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hear Mrs. No, we're not. She gets up, she walks away,
and I'm just, I'm just, I'm just I'm just sitting there.
She's having a conversation on the door. I'm talking about
I forget it. Yeah, I'm dying painting, but I'm dying
painting for you. I'm not dying because I need to
diamond paint. I'm dying paint this. I'm talking with you
and Mrs. And then she goes off to the other
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air of the house, and you know, I could see it,
hear them. The dog is not saying anything. It's a dog, okay.
The dog isn't even barking at her. And she's talking
back like the dog is talking. She's like, no, no,
do you want to go in your room, because that's
what's gonna happen. Didn't that happen yesterday? That's right? Because
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white and then goes into a whole story about what
she did, like letting the dog know again, remember yesterday
what happened. That's why I had to put you on
a time out. And I'm just literally sitting there and
I was like, sorry, I know I'm talking to this dog,
But like I did, I think yes, and I think
there's a lot more that goes on behind closed doors.
Like actually I told you I sing now I should
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write Lulla Byes toy. Cheryl thinks she should write Lulla
Byes for the dog. She thinks she's a song writer now,
but don'tually impress of my Listen. And then when I
said pull one out, you were like, it's not done.
It's not I can't even remember it now. I need
to have a dog in front of me. This dog
is my human being, my child. My child means the
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world to me, So I understand. Listen. Like I said,
whatever you have to do that is not hurting you
or your life to get through it, then I am
old for it. And I think you're doing a great job.
All right. What did Tom said? Tom said, no, he
didn't think we were going to last really straight up, Um,
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he just knew that he would be attending another wedding
at some at some point, yes, yes, because I did
mention the fact that I appreciated he was there because
he didn't go to any other dancers weddings. And then
I was like, so, actually, I'm curious because I knew
you're gonna answer it honestly and truthfully. Did you think
that this was going to last? And he basically straight
up and said, now, yeah, So do you ever worry
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about me that I'm here single and sitting alone in
my home? Or I mean, yeah, I do think, Cheryl,
that I think it's healthy. Yes, I mean for the
amount of because you were doing it before, you know,
like when you when you got married, um, you know,
created a zoo in your house, like literally a hose
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and then which another thing too, which I thought was amazing,
Like I would be like, listen, man, when you said
you had a lizard, I didn't know you meant like
ten twenty of these things and that you would be
attending to them all day and night. Um, but you
know he is that person, you know where he he
that that's what he dedicated his time to mainly was
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he was in the in the zoo and you so
naturally when when you know your your friends get a
boyfriend a girlfriend, they get married, you know, you assume
your friendship is going to be put on the back burner.
And that's totally natural, and nobody should ever give anybody
should about being in love and being totally into it. Okay,
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but you two were like, hold up in that house together. Now,
if you told me, listen, we have sex old day,
you know, like we're doing our thing. We don't want
the outside world in for the first couple of months.
But what it was was you were upstairs diamond painting
and he was downstairs in the zoo. The pandemic and
I'm not exaggerating, no, you're not at all. And and
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I still didn't, you know, if I wanted to see you,
you know, I had to come up there. And there
was a problem with you leaving the house. I don't
exactly know what it was. I could only assuse the pandemic,
I know, but people were still like getting like going
to each other's backyards, you know what I mean, and
still like trying to live some kind of life. And
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but even after that, you know, it was like you
got very used to saying in that house and I'm
scared now that he's gone, because it's it's continuing that
I'm well, now you've got the dog, and now that
the dog and the dog is the excuse now for
you not leaving the house ever, you know what I mean,
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It's like it's it's you're stuck in the house. I
definitely have sociophobia that I get. Right, we talked about this.
I get a couple of weeks ago, like you do too,
for the five minutes you talk to me and not
the dog. Yes, oh my god, you also experienced. Can
you tell me what sociophobia means to you? To me
what it means? Well, I'm sure there's a technical truth. No,
(14:37):
but look up. No, I mean I know what it means.
But I'm just saying for our listeners, like what what
for me? It's this for me? It's this for me.
It's this if if somebody says, hey, like right now,
I have an invitation on the table from some friends
to go to dinner. Right they wrote me at like
seven this morning and I have not yet. I have
yet to answer because no, for fr because I don't
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know where this place is. I start to obsess about
what I'm gonna wear, if I could fit into anything.
Because I gain weight. And then the hours process that
takes me to get ready, not because that's the time
I require. It's because of the phobia of leaving the
not the phobia, but the anxiety around leaving the house.
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I will give myself sometimes three or four hours to
get ready. I will take a shower, I'll sit there,
I'll look at my phone. I'll let my hair dry
a little bit. Then I blow dry my hair. Then
I answer my chats or emails, and I go downstairs.
I think, you know, you know, around the and I
curse around the house, and you know. And I give
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myself all of this breathing time because that I can't
just get ready and go. It will give me too
much anxiety totally. So I give myself hours and hours
of a foxing around and making sure. Then I gotta
think about what I want to wear, and do I
feel fatt in it? What if I sit like this,
my fat's gonna roll over, I'm gonna feel and then
I'm gonna sit there hating myself, even though I'm going
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to order a thing of bread, even though I feel
that way. And of course you're gonna order the postible
because that's like what you're gonna do, But why are
you gonna order postile? You don't already feel good about yourself?
Why do you? And then the conversation what do you
totally like? It goes and then getting their hard pal plications.
If I'm going by myself of walking into a restaurant,
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having everybody by the way, no one's looking at Okay,
so I don't even want to pretend I'm not even
in like the TV. But this is not somebody thinking
as a celebrity, and not even for one second, right,
just that when you have insecurities going places right, and
also I don't feel safe, I'm like, is there gonna
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be somebody gonna hold us up? What you think? Okay,
I gotta remember running this zigzag? If somebody shooting, where's
the right? Where us the tables facing the back? I
want to be in the bed. Well, I don't want
to be near so near the back, because then they'll
shoot me on the way out, and then they'll see
me run because at them they're facing me and I'm
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all the way in the back. That's what they're gonna
look at any movement. So these are the that But Suyll,
I actually think when I walk into a restaurant again,
not ego, not because I am in the TV, bet
just because of this anxiety. I think everybody's staring at me.
While is she wearing that Look at her? Look her
jeans don't even fit. This bitch is still wearing those
jeans that don't even fet her. She's probably gonna order
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the bread. They all know what I'm you know, I mean,
everybody's looking at exhaust. But but then when you look
around the restaurant, no one is looking at the two ships.
No one gives uh actual ship. Then finally, when I
get to my seat and I'm like comfortable, and I'm like,
I don't know why I don't do this more often?
Oh my god, right, No, I know. I by the way,
(17:58):
same thing, the same thing script happens in my head.
But really we're only like a minute. We're like a
tiny speck in this big old universe, and no one
gives a ship a ship. A matter of fact, it's
the opposite, okay, when you you know what, I did
my road trip with my mom and and the Trish,
my Nanni and my mom, like we would do the drives,
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of course, And then I'd asked the question to the
car would you rather write? The question was would you
rather be rich or famous? And I was like, they
all said rich, right, but I said, Okay, So I
know this is gonna sound really like cheesy and Pollyanna. However,
you can't put a price tag on somebody being affected
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by you walking by your walking in the room. And
if you're in the entertainment business and you love what
you do and you're not a complete packing asshole, you
are somewhat aware of the world going on around you.
And I do see people excited too, like, oh my god,
she's from King of Queen, Like I see the bases
light up, and when I'm not, when I'm actually like
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available to see that, Oh my god. You and Kevin
made me laugh when I was going through chemo. And
You're like, when you think about that, think about what
you do and that you can actually affect a room.
And I've been with you when people have done the
same to you, like Cherylie, you're my favorite dancer. You
inspired my daughter to dance, or you inspired me to dance.
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You know when you think about those things, I mean
it is that is a beautiful gift to be able
to give and get because when those moments happy happened.
I'm like, you're such a you're thinking about your fat
over you Jens, stupid, selfish asshole. Look how this person
You made this person so happy and cry and just
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be so moved by your work. Yeah, and it's mean something,
you know. So it's like, yes, so I do have
that social So would you rather be rich or famous?
Well it's easy to say that when you have money, right,
Well yeah, yeah, but I would rather I would rather
be able to make an effect on somebody, and I
don't want to. Yeah, so if those were my choices,
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But listen, if somebody said, would you rather be like
on the street, nobody know? You want to? I want money?
You can still be famous and broke. Well yeah, I
mean that's true. We know that we've been there. It
ain't that glamorous. Um, So you know, it's just so
I get the sociophobia, So I think I do, so
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do so. Sociophobia is literally being so self centered in
a way, right that you think everybody is looking at
you and judging you. Yeah, but I don't think it's
I don't think it's the first thing you said, self centered, Yeah,
because it's actually a personality disorder it's not. Essentially, it's
nels yeah, and I've been there, and it has nothing
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to do with you being self center. Has to do
with you being the opposite self center and being insecure
and being insecure and just it's all fear based, right,
fear of just being maybe judged, or fear of just
being in a big group of people because you just
never know what's going to happen. Just there's it's all
underlying fear. And yet and yet when I go and
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I'm with friends and I'm laughing and I'm looking around
and I'm and I'm like, you're safe, You're safe, Like
I have to say that you're safe, You're safe. I'm
happy that I'm there, and I'm proud of myself that
I left the house because you know, I'm very similar
to you in that way, Like I don't want to
leave my house either. But I'm trying to grow now,
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trying When friends say do you want to go to dinner,
I'm starting to say yes. It's living in the uncertainty,
which is in a way beautiful. But I think I
also battle with my sobriety because I did go out
with a few friends at night to a restaurant and
I got triggered because you know, I don't mind people
drink in front of me, but when they drink and
then there's like another drink and then there's another drink,
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I want to drink, right, and so I think I'm
battling between the two. I guess, yeah, no, that makes sense.
I mean I can't speak about that or or say
anything because it's it's a real thing, and it's something
that people have to work through, and it's getting to
a place where you know you don't want that drink
or you do want the drink and you don't have it.
To me, that's a success. You know, it's just getting
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yourself out of the situation or or or getting through
it because you didn't see. To me, you did it.
So to me it's like you're triggered. What you what?
You worked past it? So to me, I go success
that that was a success. That's a good perspective. You've
covered it, you conquered it. Yeah, you didn't drink, right,
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you know, you didn't do anything. How much have I
changed since seasons? And my voice just squeaked since season seventeen,
the like from the moment you met me versus the
woman I am today or evolved, I guess not changed.
Well you listen, the thing is you you have been
uh like I said, I listen. I fell in love
with you when you were drinking, right, And it's not
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like when you got sobers, like who's this girl? You
know you've been because you're You've always been to the
core who you are, even even then you were you
took you know, you were my friend throughout that whole show.
You know, you and Tony at were there for me
the whole time. Um. So so I again, I didn't
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know that you want those things, you know, those you know,
and because I started drinking because I just love scientology.
You know, it's like this amazing Why is anybody? Can
you please tell the story of the of the d
I check? Okay, okay, So we we had some wine,
um and it was in already, it was in a
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contain nor so I just thought, oh, we're gonna bring
it to the next place, not realizing I wasn't drinking
in the car wasn't but we had it. It was open. Yeah.
So I don't want anybody to think that we are
drinking and driving because we weren't. But I had no idea.
So When we came up to the truck point, you
were like, holy sh it, um, there's a checkpoint and
I'm like yeah, and you know, just driving music up
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and you go, we have this open bottle in the car.
And I'm like, but we're not drinking it, and you're like,
idiots a check point. You're like, you can't have an
open bottle of wine in the car. And I was like, wait,
but we're not drinking it. I kept going, I kept
saying that to you, like they're rolling up by the
top and I think they're gonna get that. I'm not lying.
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Like the once I tell them like, oh, we have
an open bottle, but we're not drinking. We're just bringing
it to our friends who we're going to Floridita. And
you're like, they don't you can't have an open bottle
of wine in the car. And I was like what sure,
And we're pulling up and then he stops us. The
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cop stop flat, Yes he does, and he's like, have
you guys been drinking? And I go, well, not yet.
We're about you though, because we have this end struggles.
We're good, by the way, that's not the story. Stop lying.
He's like, is that wait, I know your face. I
know you. He recognized you. Thank god he recognized you,
or else he would have checked the car. No, because
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I was gonna say I was gonna say the truth,
thinking that that would have gotten me out of like
any kind of trouble if he was thinking that we
were drinking and I was gonna over explain myself, which
is not the smartest thing to do. It's not And
that's when he was like, wait a minute. You were
like and you were like, shut up, yeah, yeah, stopped
talking would be great, and just keep it moving because
(25:49):
you kept the conversation going. Even though he cleared us,
I kept talking to him. I was like, he could
smell your breath. Stop talking. Okay, Moving on to dating.
I refused to use a dating app, don't want to,
and I'm still not ready to date now when I
am ready? Now? Wait, first of all, is that okay
that I'm not ready to date? You think? How do
you do? You have any opinion about that? I think
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that's when you're ready, you know. It's like that there's
like that story about like you know when your mother
used to say, oh, you can't go in the water
yet because you had tun a fish sandwich. Oh, how long?
What did you eat for lunch? Oh? I had a hamburger? Well,
and you can go in now. But like it's so random.
It's like there's no real role to dating. There isn't
you know. I mean, like if you want to date
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in a week, in a year, you know, that's on you.
And do you think I should date multiple people? I've
been you know, Patty Stinger was on She's playing their matchmaker,
and she said that I should date a pool of men,
and I don't know how to do that because I'm
a serial monogamous. I think you should, uh learn to
audition people. You're not good at auditioning people. I just
think you need to. You you're very forgiving, which is
(26:54):
weird because you're very judgmental when it comes to vent.
You know, I had other and other things. I have
other friends, like you would do the same thing, and
and I do the same thing with friends, you know,
you know right, I do this. I do it with friends. Um,
so we all have our things. So you're just not
good at saying, uh, that happens, and that's a deal
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breaker for me. Yeah, I'm learning, Yeah, and then audition
them and then onto the next one is supposed to
getting comfortable, getting into a routine with that person, and
then all of a sudden, you're like living together and
now we're getting married. After he did the deal breakers,
after he continued to perfect, I think you need to
know that. Listen. Some people that it's Hey, I don't
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mind if a guy wears borking stocks for me, it's
a deal breaker for me. I'm just saying for me
because the fact that you thought that was a notation. Ever,
nothing gets working stock. I think there's a person who
should wear them. Okay, but that person I would never
have sex with. Okay, so that's my deal breaker. Okay,
that's my girl that wears Bergen side that is also Yeah,
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I hear you that it wasn't a girl that would
be a deal breaker for me, Like that wouldn't be
okay with me. So but that's me. But that's me.
Okay if you are rude to wait, actually though, it's
a deal breaker. Seriously, Like if you were dating if
a man walked into your home with a pair of
bargain stocks, you'd be like, I don't want to can't
do it. Wow, I couldn't do it. Mine is cologne too,
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Like you have to love cologne. That's another one on
my list. You have a more serious ones, Okay, serious ones.
If you're rude to service people, people in service industry,
says a lot about you. If you're horrible to your
mother or um, anybody who was your m uh what
(28:50):
am I looking at the word Jesus Christ caretaker? Anybody?
You know if you if you do not take care
of the people who took care of you. UM, not
kind to children and animals. UM, not a good very
uptight you know, not a good sense of humor. UM
(29:11):
takes himself seriously or herself seriously. Cheating, you know, cheating, Um,
it depends if you have kids with the person. Um,
it's harder to to disengage and break up your life
depending on the age of the child. And also I
used to believe that cheating was that was a deal breaker.
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And when you get older, you realize, you know, that's
really not about you, that's about that person. And we
we we open this up talking about what you're bringing
to the relationship. And UM, if that's something that that
you're doing, you're doing it because there's some stuff in
your life that you haven't dealt with and it has
nothing to do with the other person. So it's not
(29:54):
a deal breaker for you. You have kids. Well, I
don't know. I mean, I think cheating happens um and
then there's a there's another reason for it. So I'd
have to really have a long term love for you
and care for you to overlook it. But it would
it would take a lot of work on their parts
to build back to trust and so trust and lying
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and all of that. Is that a deal? Of course,
of course trust you have to trust the person you're with.
But I also don't, uh, like I said, I don't.
I don't think checking phones and all this stuff that's
already and that's what there's already, we're already initial. Yeah, yeah,
So what was the question you asked? What what are
your deal of? That's that but but for you, But
(30:40):
for you, I just think you need to I don't
see you being a data because again you're in the
public eye. I don't think it's very easy for you
to date several men, you know, because this town in general,
you know, the world in general, looks you know, will
to you look look to this one out here. I meanwhile,
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guys do it all day, all night. Yeah, he's not
a whore. No, he's not. And by the way, though
I do get very consumed, and you're right, I tend
to not all of a sudden my boundaries are gone, right,
like because I get like, oh, I want to marry him,
him like high makes to meet you. Oh you have
sex with me, I fall in love quick. So you're screwed. Now.
If I was dating a pool of men, I think
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that not necessarily to have sex with all of them.
But like I think I wouldn't be so fixated on one.
Exactly what when you're saying dating, okay, let's just change
the word. I feel like it should just be like
you're seeing seeing what's there? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
but you can't be going out with this one, going
out with that one to get pictures with this guy.
But you know, it's it's to me, it's you're you're
(31:45):
then living your life in the public eye, which not
you know you aren't. We though, Well that's why I'm saying.
It's a little bit like as a woman like that,
it's a little bit harder for you. Yeah, you can't.
Well that's one two is you can't live your life privately.
They'll be like, oh what happened to you know whatever?
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You know, Well, what do you mean we're out to
dinner with right? Right? Right? That's why everything has to
be done inside at home. Well, unfortunately, this is where
I would say, you stay at home? Yeah, exactly. So
you do agree that if I could do it eventually
to date more than just one person, because I'm saying
I'm sorry, see c C. See what's going down. You
have a dinner, you talk BLA, You see how he
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really is. You see what's really good? What's your situation
with your mother? What's your situation with your sisters? What
do you talk to your family? Do you go home
for the holidays? You know, you start to find out
what kind of person you're dealing with. And then I
have to bring him to you too, because to know, Cheryl,
do you value a man who goes home for the
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holidays to see his family? Yes, you do. And if
he's like, no, I don't do that ship you know
it's too much, you'd be like, you just need to
know what those things are for yourself. You should actually
write down very specific things, because I know you you'll
change your mind. You'll be like, well, I that wasn't
that important. I mean totally, because I'll be like, oh
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my god, this is the guy you like. Did you
have sex with him? Yep? See, I screwed. Like I
almost think this whole like it's been a year, by
the way, since I haven't had sex. Okay, well, I
feel like the sex thing. That's a different conversation. I
do think I have sex. I mean I do have
I'm not I have a braider. I'm talking about with
a person. No, I can't. I fall in love. Wow,
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then you should hire somebody. I can't hire a prostitute.
Is that what? Yes, I'll fall in love with the prostitute.
But he's but he's in a business, so he can't.
I bet you. I couldna say, how did you mommy?
How did you meet daddy? Well, mommy paid for him. No,
I wish you could pay for love, don't you what?
I wish we could pay for love. Yeah, it would
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be like the perfect We would have so much love.
I mean, twelve o'clock. I need you to be here
at twelve o'clock and then leave by twelve and you're
on my payroll. Yeah, and goodbye, goodbye, good day, good day. Um.
If I so, if you were to set me up
with a man. What is who is my type? What
is my type? Okay? I would set you up with
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a guy who is funny. Men, she who's a mench?
What's that? Men? Just somebody who's like a good guy,
a decent guy. He's mench. Men, he's not horrible. Look
it up. I will read it, read it, read read
the definition of all the place? Oh, I know men, men,
she's the president. Okay, I would put I would want
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you to be with a guy who doesn't put up
with your ship, who doesn't allow you to talk away
the reasons why you're saying this or doing that? Right?
Can I just tell you the definition? The word mensch
in Yiddish is someone to admire and emulate, someone of
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noble character. I like that word. Yes, I want to.
I want a guy who laughs at your bullshit when
you're really mad and really thinking that what you're saying
is making sense, that literally laughs at you and loves
you through it, but doesn't feel like he needs to
put his foot down to show you who's the man
you know you're like going, Does it make sense for
(35:26):
you to have gone here and there? If you knew
we had to be here? And he just grabs your
face and says, baby, so cute. When you're mad, we're
gonna be on time. Like you need a guy who
doesn't get caught up in feeling like he needs to
put you in your place or compete like who's right?
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Saying yeah, exactly, it just goes you're right, baby, you
you just be mad, but it's still I love you.
And what do you want to eat? You know, like
doesn't get into so confident, confident but also just able
to rise above his own um need to be right
or need to put Like I said, I don't like
men who think they need to put strong women in
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their place. What's their place? Not strong? That's what you
that's what you're insinuating that we should not you need
you need to take me down and not to show
me I'm not as strong as I think I am
right right, because that's really that's that's just doesn't make
anyone feel good. So and and you know, handsome UM
(36:29):
cares about himself, but not so much that it overtakes
his life. UM loves his family, wants a family, loves
your family, surprises you with things that he knows you
love and knows that make you tick, which are not
things what makes you take his thoughtful things. You like
(36:53):
things that have to do that are around your family.
You like things that are beautiful. You like to go
and have experiences at beautiful places, and you want to
be thought of. I mean, I know that I'm probably
saying things that are universal to people, but there are
people in the world who really don't give a shit about,
(37:16):
you know, going places. They don't give a shit about
you know, things like yeah, my thing with I like
to be with my man and not my film. Well,
that's just not you. You like to you like to
be around your family, and you like to have experiences
with your family there, especially during the holidays. It's like
something that it's it's just not something that you you know,
(37:38):
you like your separate time, but you also you want
you would rather your family be there if it's something
to like experience. Yeah, like I I want memories. I
don't necessarily need more things exactly exactly, And you like
when people think about things that are actually real for
your life, like what about the dog? Did anybody think
about that? Did anybody think that? You know, somebody needs
(37:59):
to be at the house. So when you know, if
I'm not there and you know who's house sitting and like,
you know, things that you know you usually take care of.
I think you would like someone to share in those
responsibilities of your life that you didn't have to think
of everything, plan everything, pay for everything. And I think
that's you know, you know something that you should think
(38:21):
about in moving forward, is it's okay to want somebody
who's established. I'm not saying you want someone to support you,
because you would never do that, um, but like to
have his own stuff, his own life, his own stuff,
and also like to put his foot down in certain
ways like not secure, yeah, and not allow you to
(38:44):
to go down that road like babe, here, here's where
I'm gonna be and I'm gonna be there probably all night,
and you're gonna have to get through this, my darling,
not yet, but you would set me up right when
I set you up. Of course I would set you up.
(39:04):
But you know again, this guy has to be mentioned.
To be in the business, has to be mentioned. No,
it doesn't have to be in the business. As a
matter of fact, I would prefer somebody not in the business,
like a neuroscientist, yeah, or even just somebody has their
own thing that has nothing to do with with the business,
you know, successful and construction. It could be anything. That's
just Um, I would not choose for you somebody who's
(39:28):
in the Hollywood scene at all. And I mean like
a club owner been there, yep, uh, you know in
that world. That's another thing while we're talking about, because
the Hollywood scene is some is some bullshit, and uh,
it's a rare a person who owns, you know, a
(39:49):
club or restaurant in California, in Hollywood that that isn't
used to a certain person who wants something from them.
And so when they meet somebody who doesn't, they don't
exactly know how to treat those women. And um, they're
just also in the name game, you know what I mean,
(40:10):
bring your friends, bring you know, that's kind of douche bag.
It's hard to have sex with somebody who's always trying
to get ahead, you know, it's it's you know for
us type people that's it doesn't it's not good. Do
you think I should date it down their dancer? No,
thank you. By the way dancers are, I would say
even worse than actors. Why, Um, just I think the lifestyle, Cheryl,
(40:35):
the way you guys grow up, I think it's really
it's a really hard growing up. It's not like most
people think about like, oh, you know, I had my
daughter in ballet and tap, you know what I mean.
But I was leaving my daughter there and like, hey,
go make some money and I live in another country
at age twelve, and then putting you know, makeup on
(40:57):
and you know those those outfits for young women. Um.
The men are dominant in this world in a way
that I've never seen before. It it's it's right for abuse.
And uh, there's probably not one person that I've met
female in this dance world that has not been sexually um,
(41:21):
molested or or or raped or taken advantage of mentally. Um.
Because you guys are so young and we are we
are like so intimate, grown into a world. But like
basically your parents are like all right, go be a
ballroom dancer. I'm not saying all but I'm just saying
I've heard enough story now that it would worry me
(41:44):
to think about a young woman being put in this
in this world. Um, And I think the guard clearly
comes up very early. When you have trauma like that
in your life, you're gonna be guarded. You're gonna learn
to put on a face you're and learn to put
on makeup and glitter over bruises literally and figuratively, and um,
(42:07):
that has a way of really having an effect on
your hearts. And the men in that world are used
to telling women what to do in a way that
I've never experienced. Yeah, so I think a lot of
men in the dance world don't think it's a man's
world obviously, but no, they know it's a man's world.
(42:29):
They always tell you, you know, like they take your
hand first, right, they lead you. Their first thing is
to push you back, that's that's that's what they do,
or pull you forward. So that subliminal message us to
a young to a young man, right full of testacerone
when you know, it says a lot, right and the
(42:49):
female needs to be led and it's okay, it's a
beautiful thing. And I'm sure there's beautiful relationships out there.
I'm sure there are some dancers not been through this
in their life. But for dance or what you do
to your bodies, the breakdown of your bodies, what's demanded
of you, and then the short lived career if you're
not lucky enough to be on dancing with the Stars.
(43:09):
That's why I say I love dancers because I know
from hearing all of your stories what you go through
when you were children, what you have to be and
do to get to the level of dancers that you are,
and it's not easy. And then you know your career
is over when they say you're done. You're done, when
they say you have an achieved Blackpool. At a certain age,
(43:32):
the whole dance world is saying, look at this asshole
trying to dance at age forty. You know what I mean.
It's it's it's it's extremely judgmental, um, and it's it's
it's a hard life. But I know people dance because
they love it, because I love it, and I'm not
a competitor. Is that why you don't compete? Oh? I could? Well?
Could you imagine look at Leah Remedy on the dance
(43:54):
floor competing, Like what an asshole I would be. But
you have, you have improved so much as a dancer,
Like I just was there when you were dancing with
Jonathan Plottero and you guys, oh my god, you would die.
You'd be a different person going on to dancing at
the Stars. Like I just didn't want you to say
this because I've been pitching to Dina Cats, the executive
(44:15):
producer of Dancing with the Stars, for the last how
many years. However, since it started, well, since I got
voted off, I've been saying, I want to revenge season.
How great would have revenge season be? Where you can
like pick two people can pick like okay, like I'd
have to pick somebody from my season? Who got a pick?
Rob Kardashian, would you, yeah, a second, we should have won?
(44:41):
You mean you? But who would you pick to go
up against in your season? Who won? Freaking j R? Martinez? Right?
So then you would battle you and it's not fair.
Rob would battle? Yes? And Karina? Yes? Battle. I want
to do um Amber wow and Derek right and dear?
(45:04):
But could you imagine what a great season though? That
would be really good. I also think they should do
a season of injured people that couldn't have you know
what I mean? But I love that. I love you.
What do you want to go to dinner? Frindy or no?
Oh yeah, let's do it a liar? No, seriously, I
think I can let me chek my calendar says talk
to my dog. But other than that, I'm available. Thanks
(45:36):
to my bestie Leah Remini for coming on always saying
the reality of the situation. Um, but I just love
I love her for who she is and how she
keeps it real and she I think she gave some
really good advice actually, And sometimes it's like really fun
to interview your friend because you know you have to
like actually listen. Sometimes I'm not a really good listener
and I talk over her, which she hates. Um, which
(45:58):
I know you guys have witness is to her on
the pod. But it's just excitement as always anyone who
thanks again to Leah. Make sure you guys check her
out on People Puzzler Monday through Friday. And um, I
hope she said a judge for next season, so you
think you can dance? I thought she was great. Anyway,
let's move on. At the end of every episode, we
need to ask the listeners the question of the week,
(46:20):
which is, how do you handle your friends not approving
your significant other? Is it a deal breaker? Why? So?
I don't have like tons of friends. If I'm going
to answer this question, I they do have to go through,
like Leah and maybe a couple of other people that
I respect, you know, their opinion. So I definitely would
want them to meet my significant other, but I'm not sure. See,
(46:43):
like I said, I get very my old old CHERYLD
would get very fixated on this one person because I
would have already made up my mind whether or not
my friends liked him was probably irrelevant. But now the
CHERYLD today, definitely I would take that into consideration because
your friends no you well and they know you more
than your significant other. Um, so it is something to
(47:05):
take into consideration, I would say, for sure, and obviously
have a conversation with your friend and ask why, and
if they're all legit answers, you know, you might want
to just take a step back and um, and you know,
scope the situation out. Anyway, I'd love to hear from
you guys. Um, we want to hear all your answers,
so please email us at Burke in the Game at
(47:27):
I Heart radio dot com or d m us on
Instagram at burke in the Game Again. The question of
the week is how do you handle your friends not
approving your significant other? Is it a deal breaker for you?
And why? All right, see you next week. Bye. Thanks
for listening and coming along this journey with me. If
you like what you hear, then feel free to give
this podcast five stars. You can also follow along with
(47:49):
my journey on Instagram at burke in the Game and
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