Taylor Lewan Is Finally BACK + Dan Lanning On Why He Didn't Take The Alabama Job

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I mean I remember going to Men's warehouse to pick
up a coach of socks.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
You know, certainly wasn't what I wanted to do at
the time, right, But if that, you know, gave me
favor with that coach for an opportunity to you know,
be his guy that he trusted, then you do whatever
it is, stupid god and gave us.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Language movie. No simple. It's welcome to another episode of

(00:41):
Bust with the Boys. I am your host, Will Compton,
and we have an incredible, an incredible guest of this day.
Our co host has returned, Taylor Lwan. He is back
from the jungle, back from New Mexico City. There's only
a couple of the boys in the back. We're kind
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Speaker 3 (02:25):
That was felt great.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
I felt real good as I was going and I
was like, that's weird. There's no stumbles. And as soon
as I thought that, boom we got one and it
was nice.

Speaker 6 (02:35):
Do you like the papers?

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yeah? I like the paper.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
You know my eyes? Yeah, And I struggled real bad
with the eyes.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
So that was a nice deal.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
I feel that was very helpful to me, and I
do I do appreciate that. A couple of things for you.
One wasn't in the jungle. I was in Mexico City too.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
It sounds better if you're not on you're in the jungle.
I was in.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
I was in the lower part near Guatemala. That's where
I was, like Costa Rica kind of kind of. And
it's also not New Mexico City. New Mexico is in
the States. I was in actual Mexico City.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
What I said, in New Mexico City.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
Yeah, And that's okay, brother, because you're a Missouri cat
and that's what you do.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
It was on me a couple of weeks ago because
I said, uh, was it? Memphis was in the north.
I was like Memphis in like the northeast part of Tennessee.

Speaker 7 (03:19):
Yeah, he said that that's the opposite side.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
But there was a piece of me too that was
also working out.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
I kind of you did see it because.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
Knoxville's east right, Knoxville, Memphis is west, and Memphis is
southwest southwest right, and the Nationals in the middle north
like the northern middle relative.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
No, no, no, the relative.

Speaker 7 (03:40):
Memphis and Knoxville technically, but National is also more north.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
Would you call would you call Nashville Middle Tennessee. Yeah, okay,
then that's that's what we need right there. You're like,
well at them maps again, which you do not need
to bring back up. Boys. I am so fired up
to be back on this bus with you guys.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
It's it's been chaotic for our brand.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
Yeah, it's been. It's been a shit show. It's been
bad for the brand.

Speaker 6 (04:05):
It's been bad. It's been bad out there.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
I know, I'm smiling.

Speaker 6 (04:08):
I don't know about you've seen.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
I'm assuming you've seen quite a bit, but it's been
We've taken a lot of shots.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
Yeah yeah, I mean I even tweeted last night, I
feel like it's my first day of school. Can't wait
to see the boys and every people are like oooh,
you're a piece of shit. And I was like, damn, bro,
the boys are still mad. I did apologize because.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
I wanted to do a tweet Hey Delaney and I.
We got a great guest on today, Taylor Lawan. But
I was like, I don't want to, you know, I
don't want to kick a guy while he's down.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
It was interesting because like obviously there was the ship show,
and when I got to Mexico, you know how, it
was like I had like hardle any service. Anytime you
and I tried to talk, I'd have to call you
back four separate times in four separate locations just to
just to get something done. And I get there and
I'm not really thinking of it because my logic was, well,
I've taken literally six months off the pod for football before,

(04:55):
like this is probably nothing like that.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
I was.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
It was a it was an innocent thought process that
ended up not well.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
And along those lines as well, like again, when you
do do those things, we've always pivoted. We've always like, hey,
we'll figure it out. That was like the first thing
I said to you. I was like, yeah, bro, that'd
be sick, Like we'll figure it out. Yeah, don't worry
about the spring tour. We'll figure it out. And then
obviously hindsight's twenty twenty and we're kind of thinking through
it a little bit more like, Okay, we could have
went about that way. Yeah, a lot different.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
And though and like, yeah, the brand itself could have
gone about it a whole lot different. Me personally, like
when I get to Mexico and I go to sleep,
I'll wake up and I have like a text come
through around ten am or something like that, and it's
like it's from you saying, hey, you should probably say
something on the internet. I don't know because I took
I took my social media and this is something the
thing that I was doing, which it's so lame that

(05:43):
I can't talk about it because I i'm yeah in
NBA's but also like I'm like, hey, I was doing
something and it's like but I can't say what it
is now.

Speaker 6 (05:53):
It's you're about to make a move like a box.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
Office yeah, which is like, no, it's not that. It's
not a it's not a quin tearn Know movie or
anything like that. If it was, I would break that
NDIA and may tell all of you immediately. That is
the coolest thing of all time. But this opportunity was
something I've never done before, so I was like super
focused on it. I told Sherman. I was like, hey, man,
here's my password, here's my username. Sherman is a guy
who works with us, and I was like, can you

(06:17):
just post post busts and stuff and just make sure that, like,
because I want to really want to focus on this
for that month that I'm gone. And when I saw
your text being like, hey, you probably should say something,
that's another thing that like I'm an idiot, Like why
wouldn't I be the first one to say, Hey, I'm
sorry I'm not at the Spring tour. I'm sorry that
I'm not at but like busting bl blahlah blah. It's like,
literally like will my dad putting his son behind his back?

(06:42):
Going listen? He did, He's doing the best he can.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
And I put that out because we hadn't said anything.
I know, I know, if I think about my individual
I should have just been direct because I sent that.
We were sending voice messages back and forth and I
was like, hey, I kind of talked about I kind
of said something on the bus or whatever. I didn't
say too much or it'd be good if you like
put out a video or something. Kind of just said
it without being like.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
Hey, you need to put it, you need to put
out you just say.

Speaker 6 (07:07):
Something before I say something.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
When it was nighttime and nothing had happened, and I
know we were back and forth on face, I was like,
I got to put something out because we're about to
we're about to cancel this live show.

Speaker 6 (07:17):
And I I'm gonna just it's gonna be bad. It's
not gonna be good.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
And then everybody thought we were canceled the live show
because I wasn't there. But right before I left, the
live show was like, hey, we've sold only a couple
of tickets.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
PA, Well, so yeah, yeah, there were a few things
in South Carolina, we had a low number, and then
the place told us that, hey, there'll be a lot
of people show up day of when we had to
push back, not the pushback, but kind of like the
disgruntleness from Dave on like, hey, like this is the
Busting with the Boys Spring Tour, not Busting with the
Boys Spring Tour, and was like, I get it, you
guys have a backup plan and everything else, but when

(07:50):
sales sells this stuff and they think the brains think
at you guys, and then all of a sudden, Taylor's
not on half of it. Then it's like, you know
they might not. It'll rub the salespeople wrong because they
don't want to stick their neck out and sell for
you guys, because they don't know if you guys are
gonna both be showing up. So that thought going into
we've sold a lower number of tickets was kind of like, Okay,

(08:10):
we can punt this one, get one in Nashville, which
we know we'll be on our own backyard. You'll get
to do another one. So instead of doing one live show,
now you get to do two out of the three. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (08:20):
It was kind of like that.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
Whole combination of like, hey, load tickets. I don't know
if Delaney's coming with us yet. I'm writing this thing solo.
I'm trying to figure this thing out, you know. There
Dave had good points about, you know, all this stuff
with the spring tour and everything else. So it's like, this,
to me would be better because it's almost like, you know,
if we got fifteen to twenty fans showing up for
a live show, when we could go on Nashville like

(08:43):
we shoot ourselves on the foot being in every corner
of America trying to push live show tickets right when
we're just trying to get interviews for the head coaching players.
It's like, we can do one where we know we'll
sell more, Like it'll be bigger, it'll be better, yeah,
versus like you swing the camera around like we may.
We still did a meet and greet, which was a
lot of fun. I feel like people were like walking
away like, oh that was sick because we got to

(09:03):
talk with you guys and hang out versus just listen
to a show.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
Yeah, sit in the back room, then do a show,
and then go back to.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
The back room type thing. Obviously, on the surface, it
all looks bad. It looks you know, it looks bad.
It looks bad. And I had somebody who told me
they drove down from Canada and I was actually like
fuck man, I felt so bad about it. But then
I come to realized, like this dude's just a troll
and he's just been somebody that's like been negative in
the comments before. Yeah, because I'm like feeling bad, I'm like, god,
I know this will in the big picture. This is

(09:30):
like a better move on being like, Hey, we're going
to do a live show in our own backyard versus
like show up for the fifteen twenty, like we're gonna
make this work and give them are all like when
we're there, have twisted teas like do the whole song
and dance to Laney was awesome, but uh it was.

Speaker 6 (09:46):
It was.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Yeah, it could have been handled so much better, like you,
I think once we realized we fucked up as far
as like telling people in advance, you did a great
job of working everything. I really dropped the ball being
with my focus somewhere else. Could have done a much
better job of like speaking more on it being there

(10:10):
before saying something like and taking accountability. It was a
really it was a tough go that first week. I
remember being tight and I also did I didn't look
at social media a whole lot, but I was gone
for thirty days and have I every time I checked
social media there was a new clip from barstool someone
commenting on it, or I knew something, or I knew.

Speaker 6 (10:29):
This unnamed show, or fucking PFT made a joke about it.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
Well, because while you're gone, it's like Travis backs out
at the Olympics last week, like we're having all these
things and it just boom boom domino.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
After it just been a turbulent couple of months. Yeah,
turbulent couple of months. So before we're like, I'm now,
so I jump off social media and then I come
back and peak and I keep I peek me on
the curtain, but I don't see the whole context. The
point I was like, yo, is this not have we
not barstool like and over this yet? Like what I like,
legit got tired about it for a second, barcel gotten.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Over, Like like when we get more like when I
show up to minigolf and Dave's like, I'm out of
Beer Olympics.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
Yeah, oh yeah, and you call me on that, I'm like,
all right, dude.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Whatever, Yeah, we got a we got a full core pressure. Yeah,
Dave back in Beer Olympics. He's texted he said he's
quadruple down that he's out.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
So and the thing too is like we were wrong,
Like we were wrong mostly I was wrong, like I
handled it horribly. But when I'm going peek back there
and I'm like, man, I can't believe this is like
this has still got to be talked about. This much
like we messed up. We're trying to do better. But
it's like human beings are the only creatures in the
entire world that'll beat themselves up after making a mistake.

(11:40):
Dog shits in the house, You put your dog's nose
in it, dog goes back to being a dog.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
It's over.

Speaker 6 (11:46):
Depends only how hard you hit him.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Yeah, no question, that is true. It depends. I don't
know life you're living, but not me. Not me.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
Human beings just constantly beat yourself up, beat yourself up.
I think you and I do a good job when
we do mess up. David Buster's being a good example.
We have a lot of examples. But actually in the
football world, when we mess up, you look at it,
you navigate it, You're like, okay, where do we go wrong,
and then you try to recorrect and course correct. But
then it's really hard sometimes when people are like, but
you did this, but you did this, but you did this.
And that's how it felt to me a little bit

(12:13):
when I was like, you know, twenty three days in
to being in Mexico and I peep behind the curtain
again once again not getting contacts, and it's like these guys, yoh,
I was like we're trying our beat sound.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
One of those things like if we're in like we're
getting coached and ball because we're obviously getting critiqued literally
every day, whether it's talk to coach, trdcusted out, coach softly,
whatever it is. It's not like when you do make
a good play, your coach also follows up with, hey,
but remember when you fuck this play up, don't do
it again. Yeah, You're like, damn, I can't even enjoy
like that. That was like in the world of the internet,

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it's like people hold on. People will hold on and
remind you, like if you make a good play, another
bad one comes where you make good one and be like, oh,
you know, but Taylor he bailed, he's out.

Speaker 6 (12:57):
I know them.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
I just time I saw like a Taylor bailed, I
was like, there was a piece of me that kind
of hit me.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
And I was like, damn, dude, I didn't they all
see some comments. I'm like, fuck, I know he's probably
seeing these and it just blows.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
It just sucks because you do like I did, Like,
how many conversations do we have be like hey, I
don't want to make sure I'm not.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
Letting you down.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
I'm a best friend. I want to make sure you're
cool with this, and all these conversations over and over again,
and then you see it and you're like, here come
the insecurities. We're right down the barrel, and it's just
kind of like, ah, fuck, dude.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Jack had a good point. Did we talk about on
the episode? It wasn't more like a team meeting. We're
you bring up the point of, like, you know, when
we do pivots, like there's been times where whether it's
from it it's from the knee, or something's gotta shake
up training wise, I gotta go train here, or when
you're hey, I'm gonna do the podcast, a game happens, Okay,
let's not. We'll go solo dolo like all the times

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we kind of handle it.

Speaker 7 (13:50):
Oh talking about when he was in football.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
Right right, either of us doing anything.

Speaker 7 (13:54):
I think as like a fan's perspective. When you were
full time in the NFL playing same here. You have
been ait of the doubt too, when you had six
months to take off. That was what you had to do.
Now that I don't know what you're playing with football,
let's just say for hypothetically, hypothetically you're done. That means
that this is now your number one priority. So the

(14:17):
fans are not going to give you as much leash
anymore on missing stuff. So I think right now is
a great opportunity, even though you might not believe it,
but to apologize for our fans for not being here
for the last month.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
Have I sent the last Hey, I think it's been
a little bit of a back and forth. Oh okay,
if there's been zero clarity, you're actually right.

Speaker 7 (14:38):
I just know that there's some fans. I just think
there's fans out there that are like yelling into their
fucking speakers, like come on, like just say you're fucking
sorry one time.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
So and that's not me, No, Jack, Yeah, he was
bringing up you were saying, do you want me to cano?
Do you want me to do it? Hey? Hey, I apologize.

Speaker 7 (14:58):
Hey, it's all good.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
I'm faking. I'm fin thinking of the south Park episode
where the dudes like bending down over the desk. He's like,
go ahead, kiss.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
It, apologize busing fans. I know I've spent the last
fourteen minutes on here explaining the thought process of how
everything went. I want you guys to know that never
have I ever tried to slight any of you one
way or another. And I have never intentionally tried to
hurt any of you people by taking myself off of

(15:27):
the bus or hurting this brand by going to do
something completely different than I've ever done in my entire life.
And for that, I am so sorry. I feel like
seeing the backlash and seeing everything I've really let you
guys down in ways that I didn't know I was
letting you down, And that is a horrible feeling, because
sometimes you just go through life and you don't realize
some of the people you might be hurting along the way.

(15:49):
And if I hurt any of you by not being
on this bus and not being around the boys, I
am so sorry. I could have handled it better, and
in the future I will handle it better. If other
things happen I do leave for a couple of weeks,
I will make sure and tell you the moment it's
even a possibility that it happens, and be completely transparent
with you.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
I love all of you. I'm very sorry. Big hugs
and tiny kisses.

Speaker 8 (16:14):
That you're forgiven.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
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Speaker 6 (17:11):
The best dude.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
Shane was solid.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Yeah, Shane was fun. Shane was a good time. Interesting
friendship with Shane.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
He lets us know basically textas Friday, No, it was Saturday,
the day off, yep, Saturday, more Saturday, let's say twelve
thirty and he's like.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
Brosan's coming to the show. Tonight.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
Yeah, for tomorrow six pm, or he actually said seven
and ten, seven and ten pm. If you don't come,
I probably won't go to Beer Olympics. Yeah, bro, I
was like, I guess I'm going to the show.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
We did go.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
We went Sunday. We went to the six o'clock show
and ended up being six. They said it was seven,
but it was actually six after the barbecue, and it
was fantastic.

Speaker 6 (17:53):
It was a really gouge show.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
A lot of new material, yeah, that he's working through
right now, and it is.

Speaker 6 (17:59):
It's funny.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
It's interesting to see too because even after he's like,
I got like, what the first twenty minutes are solidified.
I feel good about the first twenty minutes. Everything else
is storytelling and trying to work stuff out. Yeah, And
it was interesting to see that, like after hearing him
say that and then reflecting back on the show like
the like him just and literally in front of a
sold out stadium working through jokes Ryman, Yeah, yeah, stadium,

(18:23):
the Ryman a historical church.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean that's a going out there and
you see a couple levels like you were, like you're saying,
you reflect back and think of the times he is
kind of working through it because he does such a
great job playing with the crowd. Yeah, like the great Um,
you don't like that one, Okay, you guys, this was okay,
but that wasn't.

Speaker 6 (18:42):
Yeah, yeah he did. He didn't like that one. Then
you're gonna think this next one was just all hate speech.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Yeah, so but it was. It was really good. The
boy was on. He's on, man, he's he's number one
in the world right now. I had to sit on
his text on Yian's coming to the show. If not,
I'm out of Beer Olympics because my own projectile ability
of thinking of the recent l's we've been taking. If
we lost Shane, they would be not only that, but
just the way like that. We're bros, and he's playing

(19:07):
with my heart and he doesn't understand everything that's kind
of sitting behind my heart at the moment. So when
he was saying that, kind of dangling it, and I'm
just thinking, like, bro, stop fucking around like this. Because
I had to call him. I had to call himlast
week because we're doing our Beer Olympics meetings, our Beer
Games Championship in the World. We're doing those meat, We're
doing those meetings and I see that he's one of

(19:29):
the only boxes kind of not checked, and he's kind
of one of the guys that, like, you know, we met,
like we want him there, like one of the core
guys that we went there. And I'm thinking, like, fuck,
he hasn't responded to, you know, barstool reaching out because
they're kind of handling all this stuff they wanted to do,
gift gift baskets and the whole deal. It's going to
be incredible. I say that he hasn't he hadn't responded,
and Lisa's like, hey, could you reach out? I was like, hey,

(19:51):
I'll reach out to Shane. And I'm just thinking, you know,
because you don't want to bug him. You don't want
to bother him because he's doing his thing. And we
obviously text back and forth like we're in our group
chats and everything else else. And so I just call
him and I was like, He's like, what's up, bro?
And I was like, guess where I'm at right now?
He's like where. I was like, I'm at a I'm
at a gun shop and I'm going to purchase one

(20:12):
and kill myself. If you don't commit or respond or
give us some type of answer if you can come
to beer Olympics or not, and he was like, we
sat there for saying and he goes do it, but
he's like, he's like, why why are you pressing me?

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Why?

Speaker 3 (20:29):
I'm like, bro, there's there's so much money going into
this thing, and everybody, everybody we want to take everybody.
We want to do it right. And are people everybody
that's working on it behind the scenes, they're trying to
get head counts and know who's going to be in
or out. And uh, he was talking, I don't wanna,
I don't wanna. I don't want to spoilers.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
The last thing we're gonna do is put out any expectations.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Yeah, or put out expectations. Just put the pressure on
everybody else because the moment that you have backed out,
I'm throwing out lines. We're texting back and forth like
so and so might come. I see literally Quentin Nelson
up under the Travis Kelsey things, saying next man up
mentality with the eyes. So I immediately takes Quinton like, hey,
are you you trying to do it. I'm not gonna
confirm nor deny if quin Nelson might be coming, but yeah, bro,

(21:14):
I mean we're we're trying to get ours around it out.

Speaker 6 (21:16):
It's going to be.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
I'm telling you, this thing is going to be fucking awesome.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
But going back to the Shane thing, I had to
sit on the I'm like, all right, how how will
just take it? Take a moment? How are you gonna
respond to this? How are you going to take a breath?
He's putting this expectator? What are we finding out from
our bro that he is in Nashville currently without you know,
ahead of time part of me thanks, he's trying to
doesn't want to do too many podcasts, probably want to
come on the bus, which is fair. Yeah, but it

(21:43):
all worked out. We had a great time with the boy.
Got to meet Gary Clark, one of the.

Speaker 6 (21:49):
Yes bro.

Speaker 7 (21:49):
Yes, that's awesome.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
Yeah, he was just chilling sitting in the I didn't
even know who it was, and he was.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
He take me a minute too, and and Shane was like,
you know, it's Gary Clark, right, like one of the
greatest musician in the world, guitar player. And then by
the time I left, I was like, hey, bro, it's
so nice to meet you. I know my dad would
be so hype in my day. He what do you
call it? He dabbles a little bit in the play guitar,
and he loves guitar. What do you call it?

Speaker 6 (22:13):
What's that thing that verslaying?

Speaker 3 (22:16):
He slaps the bass, he slaps the guitar.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
He plays the guitar, He rips the guitar.

Speaker 6 (22:23):
He rips the guitar.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
I'm not gonna that's no cap, bro, I'm telling you
my still kaking rips the guitar. Your dad does, yes, really,
matter of fact, next time he comes out, we need
to make him do it. Yeah, I will buy a
guitar and make sure his hands.

Speaker 6 (22:38):
There's nothing you can do.

Speaker 4 (22:39):
Now, I'll have it sitting in front of a case
of beer where he's got a he has to touch
the guitar just to get to the beer.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
Nice chair, speaker that's already plugged in, tuned up guitar
will have like earner, somebody make sure it's tuned up,
and a thirty rack of bush lights sitting there like
nowhere to go down, and.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
A whole bunch of chill yes, and a spittoon yes.

Speaker 6 (22:56):
And he has to play. He has to play, has
to play. I need you guys to hear him.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
Yeah, but that that Clark Gary Garry Clark, Clarkark dude.
So I didn't know really any about that at all.
And then you know, we found out. And in the
car ride home, JP, me, JP and Michael Chandler were
ripping on the way back to my spot and we
were playing it that dude can fucking shred and he
was just kind of chilling, like didn't care more, just

(23:20):
asked questions about Barslow. It's like, so was Barstol everywhere?

Speaker 3 (23:22):
I was like, well, yeah, it's on the internet.

Speaker 6 (23:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
He's like, because we kept talking about Shane and brought
up Survivor and he we were talking through a couple
of other things, like when he had me shotgun high
noons on the on the stream with DraftKings, and since
we're sitting there talking about Barstool stuff, Gary was like,
so is Barstool just everywhere? And Taylor Taylor looks. Evan's like,
it's on the internet. Yeah, it's everywhere. He's like no, no, no,

(23:48):
He's like, I mean, is there a place that everybody goes?
But no, it was It was sick to me.

Speaker 6 (23:53):
And what you got there?

Speaker 3 (23:56):
I got a couple of I got a couple of
espressos in right.

Speaker 7 (23:59):
Now, I have a Shane story.

Speaker 6 (24:01):
Yeah, because you went on Saturday.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (24:03):
So I messaged him on Instagram on Saturday with no
intention of getting tickets, and I was just like, good
luck your shows this weekend, not even think he's gonna
see the message or respond. He responds like five minutes
he's like, come through tonight if you want. I had
four friends in town. I was like, I really appreciate that.
But I was like, I have a bunch of friends
in like day of show. I don't want to be
the guy asking for five tickets, so not a big deal.

(24:26):
And he's like it's all good, bro. He's like we
can like make that work. Blah blah blah. He's like,
it's five tickets, right, And then I had miscounted one
of my friends had also brought a friends. I was like,
it's actually six. But I was like, seriously, not a
big deal, Like it is too much, and he's like,
what's your email? I'm gonna find it. And this is
like four pm on Saturday. So I was like, guys, like,
if y'all want to go to the show a like

(24:46):
nine thirty tonight, I think we can do it. So
we're all fired up, and by the time it's like
eight forty five rolls around, I'm like, he's still in
his seven o'clock show. He just never hit me back.
And I had gotten all the p will hype this.
I thought you went, yes, because and now I'm hearing
JP went last night and now my egos.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
Oh damn, I'm sorry, bro, and it hurts. I thought
you went because when I took a minute to response
to shitting calls, He's like, hey, I know you guys
are coming, and it was kind of like giving me
a run around. He's like, your boy Jack's coming to night.
And then I did a little like, hey, make sure
you tell him not to post a lot, and he's like, oh,
that's what you guys got him for, blah blah blah.

Speaker 6 (25:25):
So we were joking, but I thought you went that
night because I not.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
I mean, Mitch, I know we didn't necessarily, I'm thinking
in my head Spring tour interviews.

Speaker 6 (25:36):
You have to get them done.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
It's a fair statement.

Speaker 6 (25:39):
You got my family when did they leave?

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Oh yeah, I mean reason too, saying Jack about have
known you didn't go.

Speaker 7 (25:52):
I'm not like, if anything, I felt really bad for
my friends.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
In town because you got him hyped up.

Speaker 7 (25:57):
Well, there was a moment in time where I was like,
it's Shane gillis like sold out. I saw tickets going
for twelve hundred dollars at the rhyming on Saturday, So
I was like, So, I was like the fact that
I'm even like asking for six tickets it feels a
little scummy. And I know he doesn't feel that way.
It was nice enough for him to respond at all.
But like at some point when he was like, dude,
what's your email? I was like, guys, we're fucking in

(26:20):
Like they were fucking fired up. They're like, why is
Shane messaging you? And I'm like, dude, it's just a
friend of work. Like and then then by the end
of the night, I had to just fucking lay on
my sword and I was I wasn't mad at all.
I was just like, my ego is so bruised.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
I was like, bro, no doubt because you got everybody.

Speaker 7 (26:39):
Yeah, and they were like like the girls were like
we don't give a ship, like we don't know Shane
really and I was like this everything. Oh, it was
like four girls and two guys.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
I was like, man, they probably went.

Speaker 7 (26:52):
This situation in Oregon. So yeah, but it's I'm glad
I heard all the shows went well. I had a
bunch of friends who actually bought tickets and said that
did was THEO there on Sunday night opening? Was that
just Saturday?

Speaker 3 (27:06):
I think.

Speaker 6 (27:08):
Stories you did like a.

Speaker 7 (27:09):
Fifteen minute opener for the both sets on Saturday.

Speaker 6 (27:12):
Oh really?

Speaker 7 (27:13):
Yeah, but that's all I really know about.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
It, dude. I was gonna say during your story, I
was literally thinking to myself because I thought that at
the end of story you were going to get the
tickets and go that is the best possible way you
could ask somebody for tickets. Sure, Hey, man, I got
five people with me. Don't worry about it. Just want
to let you know, hope you crush it.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
Yeah, that's what that is.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
You give them the number, Yeah, you give it, You
give them everything, and then you just let them kind
of do the thing without saying can I have tickets?

Speaker 7 (27:40):
I know now, I'm like, there's still like an unread
message between me and Shane that at some point down
the road he will probably see and be like probably
like not acknowledge it, and I don't want it to
be like him. Think I'm upset about it.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
Oh, you gotta check him.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
As soon as you see him. You got as soon
as you see him, you got to say something.

Speaker 7 (27:59):
No, I'm just four shows that the rhyme and is
a big deal. So I think that's really.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
Cool, big time dude.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
I had a situation when I was in Mexico a
bunch of the offensive linement from Michigan.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
They hit me up.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
Ziner hit me up and he's like, Yo, Shane Gillis,
he's gonna be in sagging on Michigan. We gotta go.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
Can we go? Can you talk to him? Give it
to you?

Speaker 4 (28:19):
Like just blatantly asking me. And it's the same thing
like any of our boys that does something that where
you have to purchase tickets to go see them. I
always get uncomfortable about being like, hey, these people want
to see you, do you mind letting them in? And
so I kind of put it off for a minute,
but shout out Ziner. Dude. He was shameless about it.
He just kept asking and asking, and I was like,

(28:39):
I'll ask him. So I text Shane. He's like, no problem,
loves the big boys, boys, big boys. So I had
him up and then it was like the day of
and my service was so bad all day. So I'm
like sporadically getting messages from Ziner and Keegan these dudes,
and I think they're like six dudes with them total,
and uh, they end up getting to the show. They

(29:00):
end up getting to the show and they're like in
the show and they're like, we want to meet him,
Like how do we go meet him after this? And
I was like, you should have passes, Like they should
have given you guys a pass. H we don't have anything,
Like can you text him? I'm like is he on
stage right now?

Speaker 3 (29:15):
And they're like yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
I was like, then he's not going to answer a text.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Like what are you talking about? Like, but just young
cates later, dude, twenty minutes later, I get a FaceTime
from Shane. He's with all the boys. Oh he just
let's go.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
It's the pan. He's like, got the big boys with me,
got the big guy.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
You know he was in heaven. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
They apparently they cut it up that night too. So
that was a big, a big win for my boys
in Michigan, my national champion.

Speaker 8 (29:40):
Oh so.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
I had Levis text and ask like, Hey, could you
connect me with Shane maybe going to one of his
shows and I was either on the move or something,
but I felt kind of like, you.

Speaker 6 (29:55):
Know, no, yeah, not not nobody.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
It made me. I didn't feel like at that moment,
I wasn't like I didn't want to again hit up
Shane like hey, do you mind if I give your number,
you know, to Will and stuff like that. I don't
think he would have cared. I think so too, yeah,
just because yeah, he's football guy. But for whatever reason,
I was on the move, so I was kind of
like fleeting in my brain and I forgot about it.
And then a couple of days later, like Will comes
back right and he's like, hey, all good bro. I

(30:21):
ended up getting in touch with I'm like, oh fuck,
I should have looked out for the it is because
I haven't done it before, and I don't want to,
Like it's like you don't want to sit there and
feel it at any point you're you're ever trying to
take advantage of one of your boys, especially like you said,
like when it's not you going like when it's not
you doing it.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
But even like I I like it when one of
my boys is like, hey, so and so is trying
to get ahold of you?

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Can I give them your number.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
Yeah, And I'm like, yeah, I appreciate it. It's it's
always going to be yes, for sure, it's always going
to be yes. But just that little extra mile for
me is nice.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
And it's like it's just a little.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
Something, right, But you kind of like you just don't
want to give out people's.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
Numb and too if you're not like, say, you haven't
texted with him in a while, you know what I mean?
And yeah, one text is like you're asking for some right.
The only person I honestly I don't really think a
whole a second effort about it is jelly Roll, because
I'm like, yo, jelly Roll, jelly Roll, take care of
anybody and everybody. Yes, I'm not saying the other guys wouldn't,

(31:22):
but I just know if Jelly Roll, if he happens
to see your message, because he doesn't check his phone
very often.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
He has fourteen hundred text messages unread on his one bro.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
I had a couple of my boys from back home
that I was in high school with homies and they're like, Hey,
we're going to the Jelly Roll concert in Saint Louis.
You think you could get us a couple of tickets,
and I text Jelly like, hey, could you get these guys.
Whether their nosebleeds really doesn't matter if you just get
them just to go see one of those things. I
ain't want to.

Speaker 6 (31:47):
I don't want to.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
It's like you don't want to take a mile when
you feel like your boy's kind of giving you something.

Speaker 6 (31:50):
Yeah, saying hey if.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
You if anybody ever wants to come, like, let me know,
I'll take care of them. And I get a photo
the boys are backstage with them fucking getting high. You
gave them Jelly, You gave m Jelly World's number. No, no, no.
I end up going back and forth with Jelly Joe.
It's like, oh yeah, let me know their names. I'll
get him fully taken care of them. I think I
connected him with one of his people. But then I
get a photo and they're like they're hitting a blunt
with them in the Dude, that is so that is

(32:15):
so sick. That really is all time, man. Yeah, yeah, no,
you want to hit the Uh we got some drafts? Yeah, dude, the.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
A two game preseason is in the books and it's fun.

Speaker 6 (32:31):
No, you're dead, you read the right things.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
We're good laughing.

Speaker 7 (32:35):
I just I just thought of something funny.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Sorry, go ahead, and I'm literally only laughing two game.

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(33:51):
let's go, I said a two, We're back.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
I said a two. I don't know if you did, because, uh,
Jack if it's almost like when you see somebody yawning,
you just hit a yawn.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
Yeah, so I just joined it. I had to get
a part of that, but yeah, I did. Good weekend
also anniversary weekend, we had that little barbecue before for
Michael Chandler celebrating him getting his big fight with Connor McGregor.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
I'm sure you guys talked about that already. Yeah, yeah,
I think so, Yeah, because yeah, we talked about it
the week after the announcement. Obviously we're ready for that
boy though. Yeah, get in that octagon with Connor McGregor.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
Well, I have to do the same thing we did
for two ninety nine. What was that go interview the
boys talk.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
To Mike sit down. Could you imagine that would be
nuts getting an interview Chandler?

Speaker 4 (34:40):
Yeah, that would be crazy, dude.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
Will was telling me about it a little bit. Oregon
fun fact about organ that was a school that I
legitimately wanted to go to like I was going. I
wanted to go to Orgon and commit to Orgon because
that was like the height of their Nike uniforms. And
when I got offered by them, I was like, done,
We're going to Oregon, boys, that's what we're doing.

Speaker 6 (35:01):
So you got you had organ.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
I had Orgon. Yeah. So my dad had this thing.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
He's like, hey, I want to go to all the uh,
I'm gonna do the official visits with you, blah blah blah.
Like he was kind of like his way being like
we're going to work this out together type thing. But
every time Oregon came up about going to see them,
there was always some sort.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
Of travel conflicts with him. Could never make it.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
And then I went to Minnesota, and I almost committed
to Minnesota because you know me, I'm a honeymoon faced
type of guy. I'll just jump in quick.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
I was like, I'm gonna be a Gopher. I wasn't
a Gopher. And then I went to Michigan and I
was like yeah, because that's when the whole Jake Long
thing was going down and all that. Well, I mean yeah,
so I never took a visit to Oregon. But I
bet the flashy lights would have gotten bro.

Speaker 6 (35:41):
I mean, it's they got some nice facilities.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
Can you rank your top five spots that we've ever
been to?

Speaker 3 (35:47):
I can.

Speaker 6 (35:48):
If we have a list of where we've been, can you.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
Be better than uh, who's got better facilities? Legit, jaz
let me ask somebody else.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Really, here's here's why the way Orgon looks now organ
I would says number two, but the way Oregon looks
at this current moment. They've had those facilities since like
what twenty thirteen.

Speaker 7 (36:13):
Yeah, they said the new ones that they're starting, like
the concept plans of it will be done in like
four or five years. So when that happens, that's going
to be.

Speaker 6 (36:22):
Like an Iron Man movie.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Literally they have iron facilities. Like you could just tell
that they're so far ahead, like tech wise and everything else.
And with Nike they got so many cool things. Yeah,
they have so many in the The the look of it,
oh yeah, I think so.

Speaker 6 (36:37):
Did you already have.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
The look of it is just like it's slick, bro.
It's so clean, yeah, like modern look, but like an
athletic modern look.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
I know it sounds fucking and athletic models.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
It makes sense though, you like walk outside and every
buildings like black, and they got like this fountain in
the middle to where when all the players walk through
and they talk about how the game day experience, like
there'll be a bunch of fans out there grilling out
and everything else.

Speaker 6 (37:04):
But it's just it's sick.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
And they obviously got all the gear, all the sports
science stuff that you love, like the Nord boards, but
they got force plate stuff for absolutely everything. They have
a specific sport performance like science area. It's inside the
Marcus Mariota Performance Center. God, the you know the question, bro,
He's the only Higsman trophy, only hes So they have
the Heisman trophy like sitting looking gorgeous and having like

(37:30):
all of his all of his background kind of written
around the trophy like below it and then behind it
is they have what looks like places to sit, but
it's the islands of Hawaii that surround it. So him
being the only winner, he is the man there.

Speaker 7 (37:46):
It's like a whole section of the building that's just
like the Marcus Mariota Hall. It's just like you look
up in the ceiling. When you look at it from
your eyes, you don't see anything and if you look
through it through your camera, it's like his face what. Yes,
that hard to describe. So you have a video that
we can put an overlay, probably on my phone I
can show you later. But yeah, it's just like you

(38:08):
can tell he's their golden boy. I think these are
all the places we've been. I might be missing one,
but that is your you can rank for sure the
best of the best around there.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
So I would say what sucks is we didn't get
to see all of Texas.

Speaker 7 (38:26):
And the whole water bottle gate.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Yeah, water bottle game was tough. That's the only place
we've been to where we weren't able to get a
bottle of water.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
Straight shooters there in Austin. Yeah, straight shooters.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
Yeah, because I told but even who was shown us around,
I was like, hey, Nate, I'd get a bottle of water.
He said, yeah, go ahead, and I looked at the
cameras like he passed. It's true.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
Yeah, it's become a benchmark, a small box to check,
but a box nonetheless.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
Yeah, yeah, I mean you want everybody and again Texas
they took they took care of us when we were
out there to certain point. But you you want to
see like people that are welcoming and just insane host
to us. You remember that, You remember like how they
made you and the boys feel, not only us, but
how they how they take care of the guys behind us.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
And Texas was they were like inviting, they were they
were showing us stuff, but they just didn't show us
everything like some places like Nebraska, Michigan. I don't know
how Tennessee. I actually been to Tennessee.

Speaker 7 (39:27):
I mean they just they just finished those new ones
that we they were talking about with like the whole
car Wash, and a lot of these programs are adapting
we put the pads on.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
But I'm talking about hospitality.

Speaker 7 (39:38):
Hospitality.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
Yeah, Tennessee's up there. I mean I feel like Nebraska, Michigan,
South Carolina. But on the side, it's like we're like
they're South Carolina. We're like their sons. Like you and
Michigan meet and Nebraska they are just saying like they'll
they'll let you do that.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
Guys, you're gonna go crazier with that comment. Oh where
they're God, no, what's this man about?

Speaker 3 (39:59):
The say?

Speaker 4 (40:00):
Oh no, oh yeah, yeah you got it. You got
those out the window. Georgia. I thought they were really
hospitable too, and I was at awesome. Yeah, me and
the guys started going back at it a couple of times.
You twenty twelve, right, played Georgia had to pick against
them pick six.

Speaker 6 (40:13):
Yeah, they call them the New Year's Eve six.

Speaker 4 (40:16):
Yeah, that's why they got so changed it. Yeah, that's
changed at all.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
But even they were great too. Florida State was really accommodating.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
How about their fog.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
It was awesome.

Speaker 7 (40:27):
As user a little bit dated. They're yeating new stuff,
but it almost gives like, I don't know, it's like
it works even though it's kind of dated. You almost
like it's.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
One of those things where you just you know that
Florida State they are a squad now, but growing up,
like you just the seminole, the arrow on the helmet.
You just have this idea of Florida State, and even
though it's a little dated, it goes.

Speaker 6 (40:50):
It makes sense, similar to like a Notre Dame.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
I'm not saying they're dated or it's similar to Notre Dame,
but it's like Notre Dame has like it's like, yo,
you know you're at Notre Dame. I feel like in
Florida State, it was like that kind of feeling as well,
but not like the new tech all the new facilities stuff.
They don't have all they don't have all those bells
and whistles yet. The sick locker room, real cool locker.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
Room, Yeah, Florida State's got that feels like a smaller,
like grittier vine.

Speaker 6 (41:13):
Yes, smaller weight room.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
Like you walk in, you immediately smell all the rubber,
all the plates, everything like that, like you do most
locker or like you do most weight rooms. But it's
like a smaller one. I feel like it might be
football only.

Speaker 7 (41:23):
They had the volleyball girls saying corrected on that, but.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
I would say, I mean, I think you still got
I think you still got us at the top.

Speaker 6 (41:33):
Would you say Oregon's better than Michigan, I don't think.

Speaker 7 (41:35):
Facility wise, Yeah, I would say Michigan's locker room is better.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
Really because they're locker the lit room we saw because
they're building the new one at Oregon.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
Yeah, Michigan's locker room was like the one thing that
we were kind of like, eh, because that was the
their locker rooms busin there.

Speaker 7 (41:49):
Since Yeah, I was there, I thought that they just
redid that locker room.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
No.

Speaker 7 (41:53):
At Michigan.

Speaker 4 (41:55):
LSU was the one that was like, LSU is sick.

Speaker 7 (42:00):
Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, that's my mistake. The weight
room in Michigan is say not locker room.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
The weight room is room.

Speaker 7 (42:07):
Michigan to me is better than Organs. Also, they didn't
I think a lot because remember we I don't know
if we want to talk about it or like we
can cut this. But they didn't want us to film
in the like the locker room.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
Oh but they only didn't want us to film because
they were at practice. So you know, players are being
the boys were being boys or stuff stuff everywhere.

Speaker 4 (42:28):
Still check the hospitality, Bob.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
Yeah, I would have loved to have done in just
really preface like hey this is the like, this is
this is what the law. These are what locker rooms
look like. Boys are practice. You got shoes by lockers
like the boys were at practice. So they were like, hey,
it's dirty. We don't want you guys to which I
totally get. But I would say, if you push aside
in Nebraska, Michigan, I would say LSU then Organ Yeah.

Speaker 7 (42:49):
I really liked l s U.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
L s U was like you put LSU over Oregon.

Speaker 6 (42:55):
They're man they're different.

Speaker 7 (42:57):
If we could see the track facility, I think it
would have been complete.

Speaker 6 (43:00):
Yea, the organ yeah, the Organ.

Speaker 7 (43:02):
But the people at Oregon were just top to bottom
from facilities to just like restaurant waitresses.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
To the rental car gal just so the airport.

Speaker 7 (43:12):
Unbelievably nice, like what do we do to deserve this?
And it's just clean everywhere.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
Organ Yeah, because they're all high, Yeah, free spirit, I
think all. I think all drugs are decriminalized there importantly,
you think.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
Yeah, I mean there's some because I would see comments
of everything else where. I'm assuming people are alluding to that.

Speaker 7 (43:30):
I think in Portland criminalize so in like there, so
we're in you.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
Okay, okay, okay, yeah, beautiful drive beautiful because that was
the hard part. You fly to Portland, you got to
drive two hours ago down to Eugene. So I'm curious, like,
I'm sure they just get they get kids in, They'll
just fly into Eugene, I'm sure.

Speaker 7 (43:46):
And we had a four hour layover in sol Lake City.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
That was the worst part about Organ is we Yeah,
we had a four hour layover. We had to go
right back after the interviews, so that way we didn't
get back at like six thirty at night on Friday,
because we're done with the interviews on what.

Speaker 7 (44:04):
Like three I think it earlier than that.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
Yeah, like three o'clock on Thursday, right on, yeah, Thursday
to Denver, and then flew back from the morning, try
to make a flight at six thirty. He made a
flight at six thirty out of Portland go to Denvers.
Took a little four hour nap at the hotel airport.
We probably what yeah, it was we slept four hours
because we land, we had a little bit of a delay,
and we got in at like eleven thirty.

Speaker 7 (44:27):
Yeah, it was at eleven forty five by the time
I was getting in my room. And then we had
to get up at three forty five.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
Yeah, something like that, and then fly from Denver to Nashville.
I mean, it's a trek, but three awesome conversations, three
awesome interviews Test Johnson.

Speaker 7 (44:42):
Spring to interviews you've ever had?

Speaker 3 (44:44):
Yeah, dude, this this, I mean both of them. Really.
Dylan Gabriel starts like asking me questions and we just
have like a forty five minute long conversation like I'm
kind of running through my stuff with him, talking about
all the transfer portal because he's transferred around a lot
of different places. And uh then with Tz Johnson, he
talks about like he got adopted by bo Nix's family

(45:05):
at fifteen years old, and his ma, his biological mother,
is still like in his life and everything else, and
she was like pushing that issue to get him out
of where he was to basically be with his family.

Speaker 6 (45:17):
Bo Nix's dad.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
He's the head football coach at their high school in Alabama,
like at six a school. Like he talks about bow
Knicks basically being like a manning like very professional from
being a high schooler, like very straight edged about your business,
you know, all ball and so Tez like being implemented
into the family. He's he recalls that in the episode

(45:41):
his first night where they ate dinner as a family,
and he was like, we all eate dinner as a family,
and I didn't know if I should like grab a
plate and go back to my room or like you
kind of like you know where I'm at, you know,
grab a dinner plate and then you play video games
whatever it is. And he's like they all sat down,
we ate as a family, and I was like thinking
to myself, I hope I don't mess it up, like
I hope I don't mess up. I hope I don't
have to leave here. Damn. It's crazy to like say

(46:04):
a lout because it almost Yeah, and he mine too,
and we go from that. So he talks about getting
up to that point a little bit after. He was
a massive Organ fan because his stepdad when he was young,
showed him an Organ game because he's he'd let him.

Speaker 6 (46:18):
Stay up late and watch football with him.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
Yeah, And so when he watched Oregon, he thought, uhd
Anthony Thomas was his favorite player and was a massive
Organ fan. And when bo Nicks committed to Auburn, Auburn
Organ played, the family didn't let uh Tez go because
he wanted to wear orgon gear because he said, he
just wore his Oregon hoodie. He said, probably every day.
Probably didn't watch it in middle school and everything else.

(46:40):
I loved Oregon. So he goes he had he's he's
a small receiver. He was like a buck thirty five
coming out of high school or something like that. And
so he commits to Troy the school and out the
University of Alabama and plays there a couple of years,
balls out, hits the portal and he's getting some offers
and everything else, and then all of a sudden Orgon
calls and he and he's like when calls, He's like,

(47:01):
I tell I tell him right that I'm committed, you know,
to say anything else.

Speaker 6 (47:04):
I'm committed.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
Literally, I'm committed to Organ. Bo Nix's was the current quarterback.
So it's like full circle because Bo transferred from Auburn
to Organ for his last year or two or for
his last couple of years. And then Bo and Tesz
are playing together no Way, and he sets the single
season receptions record as a receiver last year at Tess
his first year at Organ at his favorite school, and

(47:26):
then he comes to life. At the very end of
the episode, insanely charismatic, great personality, talks about his swaggiest
dude in the in college ball. It's a it's a
fun conversation. He starts showing us his Instagram. He's like,
you see my fitt here, I got to show off
the leg tattoos. He here. Really see the drip, I
got the shoes. Go at the mouthpiece. This is a visor.
I got the visor on pre game. Take it off

(47:48):
during the game so that way you can see the
accent of the mouthpiece, but just funny, bro. And then
it opens the door to let uh to get Dylan in.
He's like, look you see what you see what I'm saying.
Quarterback thinks he has swag. He's one of these was
he's one of these flip flops. It just starts busting
his balls. That Dylan comes in. We have fun conversation
and he talks about, Hey, what's some advice transitioning to

(48:08):
here and how to you know how high schoolers managed
n il blah blah blah. We started having a conversation.
Coach Lanning was amazing and they were like accommodating, bro.
They were awesome. And Dan Coach Lanning, he has watched
some of our stuff. He watches some of our stuff.
He's like every Thursday morning, yeah, I start messing with
the brass because your lock of the week.

Speaker 6 (48:29):
Because I'm busting his balls.

Speaker 3 (48:30):
I was like, hey, Oregon washing it man, like I
was riding with you guys. I have money on that game.
He's like oh, He's like I'm sorry. He's like, but bro,
you gotta stop making nebrask your lock of the week.
Like he knew, and it fired me up.

Speaker 4 (48:42):
That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
Yeah, it was fun.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
Sounds like an amazing deal.

Speaker 7 (48:45):
We're trying to go back.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
And then yeah, Broro about Ohio stated Oregon bro.

Speaker 7 (48:54):
And I don't know if that would be so Kelly Chip.
Kelly's at Ohio State now, so that games going to be.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
Going to be so massive game, Yeah, tell Yeah, that
was a weird thing because he was the head coach
at U C l A and then he left U
c l A to become the head coach or the
o C.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Yeah, he made a downgrade move.

Speaker 6 (49:18):
That's right, that's right, that's right.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
My fault, my fault. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (49:20):
But then there was a reports that came out that
he was on his way out anyway, like him the
adding along or whatever. He didn't have the players anymore,
so he just did before they could get him.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
Dip. And then you go to a spot like Ohio
State that's probably going too prolonged, like get you back
to where wherever he wants to go, whether it's the NFL.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
Yeah, you go, you go eleven and one every year
like you're gonna.

Speaker 6 (49:38):
Get some jobs.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
Yeah yeah. Kind and coach Lanning was talking about what
was your biggest move? You feel like I was like,
I know you. I've listened to your pause before and
you recall like there's too many. I was like, but
what was a move that like happened for you guys
will obviously here in this episode, but he talks about
like going and taking downgrading, making good money and then
like taking a shot to go be a g a Bama,
thinking like this will be my this will help get
me to those next bigger jobs. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (50:00):
But they were awesome, Bro, Yeah, they were awesome.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
He I really want to go see that Oregona HO
State game.

Speaker 4 (50:07):
The way week is that?

Speaker 3 (50:10):
Is it during sp October? Strong chance? I think it
is over twelve week Week two?

Speaker 6 (50:19):
Is that week two or three? That's like.

Speaker 7 (50:22):
October twelfth?

Speaker 6 (50:23):
No in October?

Speaker 7 (50:24):
Oh yeah, I think it'll be the second week. I
can look at the calendar that happen.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
Oh yes, we gotta make sure aligne, sponsor wise and
everything else that we don't have, not that we don't have,
but if whoever wants us to be in like sec country. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (50:39):
But I thought on Saturday in October.

Speaker 4 (50:41):
I thought our conversations with a fall tour was gonna
be like a fluid, like we're gonna go to fix spots. However,
we're gonna go to like game of the week type things.
We're gonna pick and choose the games we go too.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
For sure. That's why. That's why I said it, like
we got to make sure. We gotta make sure that
because that's the whole thing with both Jangles is we
had to be in a lot of sec country stuff.

Speaker 4 (51:00):
Look up who Michigan plays October twelfth, because I know
we were not going to Michigan, Texas, because Nebraska, which
is going to be a fun time.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
Ay, Tim bro I trust me. I want to go
to I do want to go to Texas. Michigan too,
but Colorado at Nebraska it's a big game. Yeah, perfect, Washington,
I have zero schedule conflict. Then hang on, hang on,
we're at it. It's Washington. Oh, it's in seat, it's
in Washington.

Speaker 7 (51:30):
Oregon plays Michigan though in in arbor.

Speaker 4 (51:32):
But we want to like no, well, yeah, yeah, going
to Oregon.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
What's a Let's just say that going to Michigan during
that game would be hype.

Speaker 4 (51:40):
I know, go up USC they play USC September twenty first,
Thats where we're gonna go to Michigan.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
Right there. That's the game we're gonna go to.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
So we'll go to Texas. Texas week will be Nebraska Colorado,
and then two weeks later will be a USC Michigan.
You know, what I'm really anxious to see is we
know that like Michigan keeps a little more close to
the vest. They obviously opened it, opened it up a
lot because I went there and stuff, but for the
most part, like they're not necessarily Nebraska as far as
like the hospitality, because the Brassa is just like, dude,

(52:11):
this is your playground. And Michigan does keep a little
more things. Sharon Moore, he and I have a great
relationship and he seems like a like a more of
a relaxed cat. I'm anxious to see if Michigan is
any different with him as the head coach with us
at least.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
Right like, hopefully he has like the fool of like
the headman. Yeah he will, he will, absolutely.

Speaker 4 (52:32):
He's six and he's six and oh as a head coach. Yeah,
he's undefeated as a head coach. Pennsdale Hot State.

Speaker 3 (52:38):
Yeah yeah, I mean last year you guys went undefeated.

Speaker 4 (52:43):
He was a head coach for six of those I
think four of those actually, but yeah, dude, that is Ah, that's.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
A bit of a deal.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
What else is a bit of a deal? Is is
the question that is going around the NFL right now.
Is Kirk Cousins a bad person? That's that's that's not
saying that I'm hearing that.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
That Kirk Cousins is a bad person or that allowed tampering.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
Kirk Cousins didn't follow the book, Kirk.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
Oh, he might have had a little slip up in
that presser. I would love to see because I kind
of can't remember it, but it sounds like he slipped
up saying talking about his relationship with the maybe the
training staff before he got there, And so they're using
that little sentence or two like hey, this, this is
this is kind of tampering.

Speaker 4 (53:30):
Betternet.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
Let's go dude. They do take that shit serious because
you get penalized in the draft. It was like when
you guys were making your run and went to the
AFC Championship. Our was with the Raiders that year and
John Robinson was like, make sure you're not marketing anything
about you know, it's like a bust and Titans collap
because we don't want any potential tampering with with me,

(53:56):
but just like to show how serious every organization takes,
like to the detail. No, don't do this because we can't.
This is a risk any kind of tampering, which sucks
because if Kirk had any kind of relationship, It's like
we were talking about before the pod. It's almost like
if coming back, if just knowing Todd Torrisseli the trainer,
if we just had any kind of conversation and I

(54:16):
say it and like I have some presser coming back,
like yeah, I was kind of catching up with Todd,
you know, back in January or December. Blah blah blah.
That could be boom. You're labeled as tampering even though
you have like a personal relationship with yes person. Yeah
got them.

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Speaker 3 (55:15):
You like this? Yeah, I liked the little Uh you
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curly boy, A little slinky.

Speaker 4 (55:21):
A little slinky dog.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
Think right there.

Speaker 4 (55:24):
They gave me a little three on the sides and
faded it up a little bit. It's been about a
week or two.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
Though, So is that what you tell them the sides
faded up? No? No, no, I don't ever say the fade up.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
No.

Speaker 4 (55:33):
I do do a little parts sometimes, but I just
usually say I do two three in the sides, and
they what about the top?

Speaker 3 (55:38):
I go do whatever you want, and then they do that.

Speaker 6 (55:40):
They want you say, do whatever you want.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
I want a little bit of length.

Speaker 4 (55:44):
Do whatever you want, keep them length.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
Yeah, but I usually because you got to be clear,
like if they cut something, sure you're gonna make Yeah.

Speaker 4 (55:51):
I'll tell you back in the day when I was
going to sport clips as a kid, as a young buck,
I would always have that like real tight on the sides,
then real short and then that small little that little ramp.

Speaker 6 (56:02):
All white boys know that one.

Speaker 4 (56:03):
Yeah, my mom, but frosted little tips to I know
I've told that story a bunch of this podcast, but
that was what your boy was working around five or
six years old.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
Get some of that hair, that hair colored ship at Walmart.
Fucking yeahs painted little paint it.

Speaker 4 (56:16):
You put the little thing on and they pulled the
few out. Yeah, these a little stick, pull your hair out,
dallasted with that blue paste. Wake up the next day
a new man, low key thinking you're murdering the game.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
Light up top, darker on the side. Then you go
through the phase where you want to grow it out,
which was me. So the same blonde would like.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
Grow it'd be like this long, but just like slowly
come down.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
Here and still brown, still like brown up underneath.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
Yeah, I looked, dude.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
Spiddle school you guys. You guys went to that. I
know we talked about before. You never went through a
long hair phase, Mitch.

Speaker 8 (56:47):
No, I've only ever had a buzz cut growing up.

Speaker 4 (56:49):
I mean I think about Mitch trying to grow his
hair out, his head so big, like it'd be like
three years before he even got to my leg.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
He looked like et when they put the wig on him.

Speaker 8 (57:01):
Hey, you know what I'm saying, Jack, just.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
The wide head.

Speaker 4 (57:10):
Yeah, bro, man, dude, you see you rock that beard now.

Speaker 8 (57:15):
So it's November, I'm thinking of actually shaving it.

Speaker 4 (57:19):
Go ahead, dude, you want but you liked it?

Speaker 8 (57:21):
No, I do. I definitely like it for sure. Yeah,
I just maybe maybe maybe.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
I told this man, I said, the minute you grow
a beer, you're gonna be like, man, you know.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
I might just keep this be a beard guy. Yeah,
just give it a trim.

Speaker 8 (57:32):
No, I do trim it. I do trimming. I just
maybe just kind of hit the reset button real quick,
kind of go back to neutral for a little bit.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
Yeah, yeah, I can let her go back out. Sometimes
it's nice to have a little bit of a change.

Speaker 8 (57:41):
Even with the summer coming and stuff too. Like, I
got to make sure the face gets an even tan exactly.

Speaker 6 (57:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (57:48):
When I first got back to Nash, it was like
gonna be I think like forty eight hours before I
saw Will, and I was so excited. I just faced
time him in bed one night, and H Taylor took
a nice moment to let him know how great his
beard was. It's phenomenal beard.

Speaker 6 (58:01):
Yeah, I know, which. I don't think it's that great.

Speaker 4 (58:05):
Really, Yeah, I think you have a f I think
you have a great beard. I think it looks it's
a really good look for you.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
I appreciate it. I was telling you too. I kind
of like when I take it down to more of
like a stubble, like a little scruff, a little scruff.

Speaker 4 (58:17):
Yeah, I think you got enough density on the cheeks
that to kind of keep it where it's at, Like
clean it up and clean up that neck a little bit.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
You'd be solid. Yeah, handsome boys.

Speaker 7 (58:26):
An old photo of you Will with a beard, and
I had the same feeling I was. It was long, bro,
and I was like, damn, yeah bro, But you said
get it back.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (58:35):
I thought it looked.

Speaker 4 (58:36):
Oh no, no.

Speaker 7 (58:38):
No, I swear the photo. I looked you must have
just gotten a trim because it Will looked very even
and I don't know.

Speaker 4 (58:45):
Pull up a what's the video you did the tailor
one top one hundred with Will's talking that's the that's
the beard.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
That's the one I think he's talking about. Go to uh,
go to YouTube. I don't think so either, because it
grows now because you he grows more down.

Speaker 4 (59:03):
Had a Viking? No, that thing nice, that's that's newer
Will beard. No, it's nuts old teeth, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
That's my fault.

Speaker 8 (59:11):
You look like you look like you're supposed to be
in Twilight right there?

Speaker 3 (59:14):
Can't you see the old teeth down there? Down going down?
Go up the top right, that's you. I thought that
was Lane Johnson.

Speaker 4 (59:22):
Oh bro, Yeah you had that is crazy. You had
that Amish country beard too.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
That is wild. There there's the Hey, Mitch, make sure
to get that photo that we're just looking at and
puking over. That is nuts. Man. Yeah, teeth, I mean
the boys said, you know what, I can't say enough
about the teeth investment. Yeah, it's a big deal.

Speaker 6 (59:46):
Can't say enough.

Speaker 4 (59:47):
Some got last night at Shange show was talking about
my dentist. He said, what are you for your dentist?
I was like, oh, he's in Brentwood somewhere else. These
are fake by the way I've been, there's like a
year ago.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
These are not real. You need to just put some on,
like some whitening paste of Walmart or something like that.
You know what I do. I get this with this
whitening paste, whitening toothpaste, them laser mouthpieces that they're they're
promoting now on Instagram.

Speaker 4 (01:00:11):
Yeah, dude, I did the uh what was the little
things back in the day where they had like they
were like pieces of paper whitening strips. I did that.
It hurt my teeth, yeah, bro, bro, like just like
shock shock waves, So your teeth hurts so bad it.

Speaker 8 (01:00:25):
Like really up your enamel. Yeah for your teeth.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
Yeah, I messed them up.

Speaker 4 (01:00:31):
I did like a whitening thing like ad a dentist
one time where they like put the light on it.
That ship hurt too. Maybe I do have soft teeth,
soft team and soft teeth.

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That's a bad advertiser for shunning nut cheerios.

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Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
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Speaker 6 (01:02:56):
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Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
He was. We were talking about some products and he's like, yeah,
I was checking on my uh my Yuka app and
it was telling me how bad it was. It might
have been like a deodorant or something like that. He
was like, it was showing me how bad like an
old spice was. He was like rated very low.

Speaker 7 (01:03:11):
My roommate got really big in the Yuca and he
almost lost part of himself.

Speaker 6 (01:03:16):
Really, Oh no, you can get.

Speaker 7 (01:03:18):
Literally be in the grocery for an hour and a
half just scanning products, and he's like, all this stuff
I've been taking for years is actually horrible for me.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
Bro.

Speaker 7 (01:03:27):
He's just like, but.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
I wasn't target with Rue, and I probably spent a
good amount of time just skinning products while she's.

Speaker 7 (01:03:33):
Throwing yellow or red icon if it's like good or bad.

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
Yeah, yeah, it's cool, it's a it's a very I
was so surprised that that Billy.

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
C was showing me this app that's outstanding.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
But that's that's my first one. What my actual shot out,
no free shoutout for this week is going to be
when your wife goes out of town. Oh, will you
get the serenity of rock and solo knowing that you
can catch up on your shows. You can. The wife
will be away long enough to where you're gonna miss

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them very badly by the time they get back, and.

Speaker 6 (01:04:08):
You just get to you just get to go back
to some of your old ways.

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
Now I'm gonna be riding solo with Rue, so I'm
gonna be on solo dad duty, which I'll have its challenges,
but unexciting challenge.

Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
Yeah, and you get a chance to level up a
little bit too at the relationship.

Speaker 6 (01:04:21):
Yeah, get in the rhythm with rue.

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
Yeah yeah, yeah, that's good, Just because the other day
I was thinking about it. Charlie went out to go
shopping and I put Root down for a nap, and
your boy had a very productive saturday. Got a run in,
got some song in, clean the kitchen, did a load
of laundry, and then I'm sitting there like just I
felt good on the couch, like, oh man, I'm really

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your boy was fucking productive this afternoon, and saw I'm
like looking forward to those moments. I'm gonna miss you.
I am gonna miss your sweetheart. She's gonna be im
parish for like eight days on a girls trip, I know.

Speaker 4 (01:04:53):
Oh yeah that's down.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
Yeah, that's gonna be great, though it's gonna be so
sick for them.

Speaker 4 (01:04:58):
I feel like your first three days are gonna be
the tough, and then you're gonna find a nice groove
between four and seven.

Speaker 6 (01:05:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
Yeah, definitely the first day, just because we'll be getting
back from our Alabama trip and we're doing the draft
coverage in Chicago, so then flying back early on Friday.
She takes off Friday morning, so I'll kind of be
you like, have that face sleep. Yeah, I just seed
that first night to get some sleep. But other than that,
like it'll be we'll have a good time. But that's

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my shadow. When you have that serenity of and just
peace and quiet, when when the kid's gonna be down sleeping,
whether it's for a nap or night time, you're just
gonna have the house to yourself.

Speaker 4 (01:05:35):
Can I add a layer to that for you too?
That makes it even better? Yeah, your wife is not
going on a business trip for eight days. She's not
doing something she doesn't want to do for eight days.
She's having total and complete fun for eight days, to
the point where you don't have to worry about all
this is happening. That is happening. They're gonna come back
and be all drained, like they are filling themselves up
from a soul standpoint, So you know when they come back,

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they'll be ready to can maybe take over seventy cender
the load for a minute a day or two.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
The scoreboard will be in my favorite for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:06:05):
Time she'll have to make a halftime come back in
a hurry.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
In a hurry. Yeah that is. She's like, babe, you
leave every week. I'm like, sweetheart, your boy rush is
to get back and rushes.

Speaker 4 (01:06:15):
We take the earliest flight time just to get back
to y'all. We will take our s and it's for business.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
Like I know, we have fun. I can't help we
have a fun job.

Speaker 4 (01:06:22):
Did you have fun in Paris, France?

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
Did you exactly on an eight day trip with the homies?

Speaker 4 (01:06:28):
Oh yeah, that's tough. Don't worry, you'll get You'll get
back calculated with the hours and I think it'll be fine. Yeah,
but go ahead and put rude down right now.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
Relax.

Speaker 4 (01:06:36):
Yeah, yeah, the serenity does that last a couple extra
and then you.

Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
Just get to be a guy for a little bit,
like you know, leaves some dishes out, you know, for
a little extra.

Speaker 4 (01:06:44):
Day or smile about it too as you walk away.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
Yeah, order order some takeout and kind of leave it
there on the table, knowing that you're going to put
in work right before they come back, just for it
to be spotless.

Speaker 6 (01:06:54):
Sweetheart, I kept up.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
Under the rug. Under the rug.

Speaker 4 (01:06:56):
Yeah, see how spotless this is.

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
It stayed like this.

Speaker 4 (01:06:59):
It's crazy to that happened when we're both here.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
Yeah, oh, bro, I fucking I have a bad habit
of leaving the espresso in the machine and instead of
cleaning it out, and it's in the pantry, and she
moved it out of the pantry. She was like, I'm
putting this out here to be seen so that way,
you know. She's like, you can't handle it in the
pantry anymore. That's what she said. She goes, you can't
handle this, and I got tired. I was like, I'll

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never I'm never making one again. I'm never making a
latte again. And because she was like, maybe I think
to move out to the counter and the kitchen is
going to be better for all of us and I
and I just want you to I was like, no,
don't even worry about it. I'm not making any more lattes.
I'm not using this machine ever again. You're gonna let
your grove on your house like that.

Speaker 6 (01:07:42):
She had to put her to her defense.

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
She had to put her foot down. She did. She
did because I don't know what the material is, but
it was i'll try to get stains. I was like, babe,
it's not gonna stain. Like I'll trust me. I'll get
it out and I couldn't fuck get it out.

Speaker 6 (01:08:01):
She's like, don't worry. When we're out here, this will be.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
This is right.

Speaker 6 (01:08:03):
You can't handle it in the pantry.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
I was like, just a dust up, a little tiff
in Paris, charl Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, have fun in Paris.

Speaker 4 (01:08:17):
Shadow no for shadow, all right, you did too? All
do two as well? Uh. Last night, going to Shane's concert,
we get in the car. Will realizes he kept the key,
so Charles can't leave my house to go to her house.
Day oh yeah, So we cruised back to my house.
We're already running late. We cruised back to my house

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and JP's not a gas so we get in my
wife's vehicle and we take that car. And because I'm
driving and this is an older vehicle so I don't
have like a little monitor tell me how to get there.
And Will is like copilot, he's copilot, and he also
has my phone to do to play music, so he's
double he's double wheeled in the whole time. Now, we

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put a song on Will and I are kind of
bumpet through it because but it was a little sad.
But here's my where my shout out no free show
comes in is where usually when you get a car
with a bunch of guys, you're going to something fun,
like you want to put some bangers on that everybody knows,
everybody enjoys, and we can all sing along too, so
we get the energy high and going. We put about
one song on and then Will Compton goes, let me,
let me let you guys try this one on. What
do you think about this? Which is one of the

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most daring things you can do with a friend group
going somewhere is testing out a new song when energy
is needed more than ever.

Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
And he put that if they were on us in
the back, like, come on, I know you guys are
singing too, but let's get some energy.

Speaker 4 (01:09:35):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Well there was a minute where we
yeah yeah, I was like that it sounded like hilar Delilah,
but it was actually as a Swaco song, which I
really I think is fire and I'm kind of I
know the song, so I'm singing it. Will's legit looking
out the window feeling something like like my fad was
in a music video. For a second, I look at
the river mirror and JP's kind of like, what the
fuck is this? And I was like, hey, well we

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should change we should change it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
So he puts that. He puts that song on and
it hit. It was, uh, is it called I'm Good
the Blue Dad kind of remix. Yeah, yeah, I'm good
best fucking not in my life. But he put that
on out.

Speaker 6 (01:10:15):
Yeah, it's a jam.

Speaker 4 (01:10:17):
He put the song on his eye, I got a
new one for you guys and hit that. I was like,
this is blue like and then all of a sudden I.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
Find out was like I'm struggling boys, and I was
started getting nervous.

Speaker 4 (01:10:26):
Yeah, and it worked out. So my shout in a
free shot is taking the risk of energy when energy
is needed more than ever. Yeah, that is that's my
shot show.

Speaker 6 (01:10:35):
I mean, it could have been worse.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
But I reached in my pocket to grab my phone
to search for the song or just search for a
song or something like that, and I feel Charles.

Speaker 4 (01:10:44):
Keys and Keys again.

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
I was well, not that remember, because you were like
you were saying something like, all, this would be good,
This would be better than if we would have made
it all the way there, then she wouldn't have had
it in the first place. And I was like, you
don't understand. If we would have made it there, and
she would have been like, I don't have my keys,
and I have mommy. I had recently that earlier that
day when I went on the Daddy Daughter had a

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little Daddy daughter morning. I leave Ruth's backpack at Target,
and I'm swearing up and down. I didn't leave it there.
I didn't even bring it in Target. They checked the cameras. Hey,
we found the backpack. So Charles already going back to
because my rock brain, dude just lapses the espresso machine,
leaving it in.

Speaker 6 (01:11:25):
Though, don't beat you, I know, but.

Speaker 4 (01:11:27):
You're taking small things and you're piling it up.

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
But these are within the last couple of weeks.

Speaker 4 (01:11:31):
Bro, That's all right. We all go through phases. You know,
a little foggy.

Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
You know I'm losing it. You know I'm losing No,
you're not, you're not.

Speaker 4 (01:11:38):
You're strong.

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
You're strong.

Speaker 4 (01:11:40):
You do way more good than bad, way more good
than bad.

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
I appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (01:11:45):
Uh, my second one, my second shout in her first
shadow simply is taking action.

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
And I'll explain why I say this.

Speaker 4 (01:11:55):
When I built my home, I spent an ungodly amount
of money on my landscaping, and I told the landscaping people, listen,
this is what I want. I want you to think
like you're walking into organized chaos like green lush, but
there's flowers everywhere, Like you're on a French countryside and
there's wildflowers as far as the eye can see, and
it's just like a vibrant, beautiful bunch of colors. And
you're just like stimulated, but you feel warm and fuzzy inside.

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Landscaper is like, we got you. They start playing stuff
and they go three years from now, got to give
plants time. You'll have that perfect It's now been three years.
I have good landscape. I got good grass, but landscape, well,
devil was in the details. Brother, I was blind too,
But now I see, okay, okay. I start looking out
and Tailor brought to my attention a little bit. I'm like,

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you're right, there's not a whole lot of vibrant French
countryside going on here that I was wanted so bad.
And this dude named Steve crawls out of the ashes
and he's like, I am the greatest gardener of all time,
but people just don't know it yet. I can turn
this into what you want.

Speaker 3 (01:12:55):
Blah blah blah, blah.

Speaker 4 (01:12:56):
So I have now taken action. I bought a tractor,
and I dug out, damn your half of my own
landscape this past weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
Talk about being productive, you dugout.

Speaker 4 (01:13:06):
Swear to God, I dug out. I call my wife.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
You just got on the tractors. I know it's just
gonna put up a funny bro that you found on Google.
Jack saw that that that is funny. That's a funny
Jack move. But let's call Taylor right now.

Speaker 4 (01:13:22):
Also made those references what up, dude, Hey, I need
I need You're on the bus right now.

Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
I need you.

Speaker 6 (01:13:31):
I need you.

Speaker 4 (01:13:32):
Just plainly tell Will and the boys what we bought
this weekend and what did I do this weekend?

Speaker 8 (01:13:40):
Denying?

Speaker 3 (01:13:42):
Now, aren't they they are? Taylor and I said, there's
no way he actually used the tractor. He just got
on it, took a photo and just like I'm gonna
make him think that I was doing some ship, tell him,
tell him what happened.

Speaker 5 (01:13:53):
Well, I can completely understand why you think that. I
even told Taylor, this is the first time in eight
years I've ever seen dirt under his fingernails. It was
like actually noticeable.

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
Get to the point, but he.

Speaker 5 (01:14:05):
Attractor, and he got on it and he filled it
up with grassy polls and then he drove it to
the spot to dump it and drove it back.

Speaker 6 (01:14:13):
Okay, did he dig up?

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
He said, he dug up half of his landscaping.

Speaker 5 (01:14:16):
He did that by hand, and he actually did it
for real, and he used.

Speaker 3 (01:14:21):
The bucket to fill it up.

Speaker 5 (01:14:22):
And then he he didn't real he didn't real landscaping
this weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
Well, all right, that's confirmed. That's confirmed.

Speaker 4 (01:14:29):
I love you, I talk to you later. So I
dug my shit up.

Speaker 8 (01:14:35):
Steve.

Speaker 4 (01:14:36):
This Steve guy, he's like he's like an alchemist. Did
he the way? He's got a green thumb like no
one's ever seen before. He's out at my house every
single day and he's like, I want to use your
land to show people what.

Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
I can do.

Speaker 4 (01:14:49):
So taking I took action. And then three to five years, boys,
I'm gonna have a world class garden at myf world class.

Speaker 3 (01:14:57):
So you got to restart basically.

Speaker 4 (01:14:59):
Yeah, but you know my grass grasstaat great grass all year.

Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:15:03):
Yeah, it's very green, good grass, vibrant green.

Speaker 4 (01:15:06):
But you know, like the kind of bushes you see
that are kind of around the green grass. We're working, baby,
we are turning that shit into I'm not just talking
about it'll look nice. I have an area designated to
win Rebel Lawan, my oldest daughter. That there are different
flowers and different plants that are from a family named
Wind that we're gonna plant there. So that's gonna be
a wind garden. There's obviously a willow tree, my youngest daughter.

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
I'm gonna play.

Speaker 4 (01:15:30):
Different willow trees, different willow plants, which Steve was telling about.
There's a bajillion type of different plants. I am going
to have a world class garden three to five years.
And I took action on it this weekend. Bookmark that bookmark.

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
That shout out no fore shoutout taking action.

Speaker 4 (01:15:47):
Yep, shout out no for, shout out, take an action.

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
Shout out to you, said Steve.

Speaker 4 (01:15:51):
Shout out to Steve.

Speaker 6 (01:15:52):
That's I know. That's a gritty move.

Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
It's a gritty move. Ione knows it. Yet I need
to build my portfolio. Let me use your land, because
I can really decked this thing out for real and
then use that to market and showcase my skills.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
He is.

Speaker 4 (01:16:07):
I don't want to sing his praises too much. I
do like Steve early in the game. It's early in
the game, first quarter. He came out said a lot
of good things. And I'll tell you what, first couple
of minutes of the game.

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
He's been doing great.

Speaker 4 (01:16:18):
Okay, he's been doing great, but I I mean, three
to five years is a long time. Yeah, you know,
eventually fatigueill set in, a fatigue mixed cowards out of
all us.

Speaker 6 (01:16:27):
Yeah, great quote.

Speaker 4 (01:16:28):
I'm gonna pee, Mitch, do your shut up?

Speaker 8 (01:16:32):
My shout out. Every shadow this week goes to uh Supercross?

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
So we do you ever not talk about Supercross?

Speaker 8 (01:16:42):
I'm sorry. It's like you with Nebraska. I I'm a
fan of something, I'm gonna talk about it, and every
time I do, talk about it in the team meetings,
other meetings with you guys, asking you guys if you're
gonna show up. Here we go again, here you talking
about Supercross, tell me to shut out and making me
feel bad.

Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
Okay, tell about talk about time about I'm teasing. I'm
teasing a little true to it for sure, but I apologize.
I apologize. I know you love Supercross. It's very near
and dear to your heart.

Speaker 8 (01:17:07):
Yeah, yeah, and I'm not I won't go into the
whole story, but I want to shout out Sean Brennan,
Dustin Pipes. Those were the two guys and Chris Elliott
from the Team Solitaire. We have a dirt bike now.
It was a very very long process in getting it,
like a.

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
Year and a half, no year, we were Yeah, but
the talk of getting something from Twisted Tea dirt bike wise.

Speaker 8 (01:17:30):
Was last year's Supercross and that was a year ago.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
But it's that that conversation of that bike started. You
started that conversation with them a little before that.

Speaker 8 (01:17:38):
I didn't think we were going to be able to
get a bike from.

Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
Him, but then we were going to get a bike,
and you promised it.

Speaker 8 (01:17:43):
For It's been a year, yeah, and that's we have
it now.

Speaker 6 (01:17:49):
We do it Ain't is beautiful.

Speaker 8 (01:17:51):
It is so sick and just the like Sean and
Dustin and Chris like that. He were super accommodating, accommodating
for the guys or my family. Taylor Delaney like got
his tickets, had a really good seat. But they're just
great dudes, great people. And I can't thank him enough
for getting us a dirt bike. And Taylor could only

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be at the thing for an hour.

Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
First day back anniversary, and that's I'm I'm happy.

Speaker 8 (01:18:21):
He even gave me, like gave us an hour, like
he didn't have to do that. But and Sean was like, Okay,
we got this, this and this, and then you're out.
You're fine and we made it happen like and I'm
stoked about it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:33):
I know you're stoked. You remember when we were talking
about your approach to Taylor?

Speaker 6 (01:18:38):
Yeah, you're like, did he ever let you know that
we talked?

Speaker 8 (01:18:41):
What he he texted me is like, Mitchell, no, you're
gonna ask me something, just ask it.

Speaker 4 (01:18:44):
No, no, no, I said, when you're ready to ask
me the question, I have an answer.

Speaker 8 (01:18:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:18:48):
And he would you take it back?

Speaker 8 (01:18:51):
Do you want to go?

Speaker 4 (01:18:52):
No, you said, what's your answer? I said, you have
to ask a question first.

Speaker 8 (01:18:55):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:18:56):
And then Taylor at first we were both like.

Speaker 3 (01:19:00):
I'm not a supercross guy, like I'm not a dirt
bike guy, and Mitch being like, hey, supercross this year,
and again he dropped I mean no, he didn't drop
the ball.

Speaker 6 (01:19:07):
We went. We had a great time at.

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
Supercross, but we were supposed to have this dirt bike
and Mitch is just all supercross twenty four to seven,
three six. Now every time you're like, hey, I got
another supercross topic to talk about, we're like, all right,
mitg We're like, all right, where's the uh, where's the
bike from last year that you were said that you
swore up and down we were gonna have it.

Speaker 8 (01:19:26):
Now it's here and you can't bring that up, no doubt.

Speaker 3 (01:19:28):
But Taylor was getting back on the nineteenth and Supercross
was on the twenty on four twenty shout out for
twenty and uh, we were both kind of out on
Supercross because again, he's just getting back and his anniversary
is on four twenty, and so Taylor had already previously
said like we weren't gonna do this, and so Mitch
was like, hey, I think we're gonna get the dirt bike.

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I was like, fucking here you go again, Mitch. And
I was like, listen, I've never I've never ridden a
dirt bike. I can't like. He's like, they want you
to ride it out, you know, ride to their bike
around stuff like that. I was like, listen, I'm out.
I politely decline. He's like, you think we could get Taylor?
Because I was like, Taylor, that'd be something that he
would like like he would want to do like you
love their bikes love. But knowing that, Taylor said, Oh,

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I'm like, it's all You're gonna have to just frame
it well because he's out there and mexicell Right now, boys,
we obviously were taking the heat.

Speaker 6 (01:20:20):
We're kind of taken.

Speaker 3 (01:20:21):
You're about to come back around and ask him something
about Supercross, which we're in the middle of Spring tour,
we're doing all these other things. I'm like, you're just
gonna have to It's gonna be about how you frame it.
And then I was telling Mitch. I was like, just
we'll text later and I'll help you craft your text.
Bas yes, I will text. You should try and say
to because I was like, you're gonna have to go
on whatever he says. If he says no, then don't

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bug them about it, like it's going to be a no.
And I was like, I'll write your text and you
can send it. Taylor and I that is crazy manipulation
by it. I know, I know it is, but I
could see Mitch. It seemed like he was like, I
know we're getting the bike, and in my brain I'm
thinking you would enjoy doing it.

Speaker 6 (01:20:57):
But again completely understand.

Speaker 4 (01:20:59):
That we talked about, you know, how much I was
missing my family.

Speaker 3 (01:21:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I was hurting, and so I
was trying to think of a way that it could
seem you know that obviously get you to say yeah,
like you're gonna have to know if he does it
within an hour, then he's gone within the hour, like
all this stuff to like try to get the boy
a win as well. Taylor and I ended up talking
on the phone. I was like, Hey, I'm just gonna
tell you mitche ask.

Speaker 6 (01:21:20):
You a question.

Speaker 3 (01:21:21):
I forget how I loved its gonna.

Speaker 6 (01:21:24):
Ask you something and was like, here we fucking go.

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
And I was like, I said whatever, it was the
Supercross than their back. I was like, listen, you say no,
it's truly all good. I told him I've already prepped
him where you basically saying no, but if you want
to do it, I thought there was you were going
to go yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:21:41):
I literally told Will I was like, it is dope.
I was like, but it's my anniversary. Yeah, and I
need to obviously I have to ask Talor and if
I even get a hint that she might feel some
type of way about it, the answer is without a doubt,
no zero. So I called Taylor literally when we hung up,
and I was like, guess what.

Speaker 6 (01:22:00):
Which Even then, you gotta kind of craft.

Speaker 4 (01:22:02):
I know, you gotta you hit. Just be like, they're
giving us a dirt bike on four to twenty, we
gotta go do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I
was like, you want to know good news the bad news.
She goes, she goes, what's the bad news. I know
there's something that people want me to do on our anniversary.
And she said, what's the good news. I was like,

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I'm getting a dirt bike and she goes, that's She
literally goes, there's like a Pauser. She goes, dude, that's
fucking sick. I was like, oh, for real, Yeah I
thought so too. But it's our anniversary, dude, I will
not do this. I will not, like I swear to God,
I will not do it if blah blah blah. She's like, no,

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how long do you need? I was like, I told them,
I will tell them one hour. She's like, perfect, yeah,
let's go do it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:51):
Boom, And then I had to wait.

Speaker 4 (01:22:54):
And then even then I had to wait like two
three days, and I was like, I have to text
Mitch about having an answer.

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
Are you scared for?

Speaker 8 (01:23:01):
I was nervous the entire time.

Speaker 4 (01:23:03):
What are you talking about? Do you know who?

Speaker 5 (01:23:04):
You like?

Speaker 7 (01:23:05):
What did you see me?

Speaker 3 (01:23:05):
Matt? Well, No, no, no, not that you were mad
that she It's not that. It's just that he's bringing
up another super Cross question and we ball busted obviously
every time because it comes up. He's like, hey, so.

Speaker 6 (01:23:16):
Another brand wants you to do this. It's like, bro,
I mean remember the private jet we've been rocking with
Twisted Tea.

Speaker 3 (01:23:21):
Yeah. Yeah, he brought up a private jet opportunity that
fucking didn't work out.

Speaker 6 (01:23:26):
So every idea jet brings up.

Speaker 4 (01:23:28):
For Miami, yeah, said at me, and we're like, all right,
yeah Mitch, no callback, no.

Speaker 3 (01:23:34):
Callback, every idea like you'll come up with. You're just like, fun,
when's this one gonna blow up? God? Yo?

Speaker 4 (01:23:42):
But I think I was maybe the second most excited
person there.

Speaker 3 (01:23:45):
Your dad was number one.

Speaker 8 (01:23:46):
Oh yeah, my dad was just he was just talking
to like didn't behind the scenes people, just about the
engines and stuff, just trying to like learn more about
it because he's been doing it for like thirty years.
And but they were My parents kept saying like four
or five times. They The coolest thing was seeing how
excited you were, because you had like that little kid
like energy, like holy shit, like it's here, we got it.

Speaker 4 (01:24:06):
You be a dip dude.

Speaker 6 (01:24:07):
I was in your excitement and nerves to get.

Speaker 3 (01:24:09):
On and be like, oh I knew I was gonna
do that too. Oh I knew it.

Speaker 4 (01:24:13):
And Delany was like, you can't do it, like the
whole time. Lad's like in my ear like don't you
can't fuck up. I'm like, yu, I'm so nervous. And
I was like just like dealing with those and I
was like.

Speaker 3 (01:24:22):
Oh my god, and all the program I didn't even
look that, didn't even you did that. Just from my eye,
it didn't seem like anything had happened.

Speaker 4 (01:24:29):
The pro guys came up to me, we're like doing
the hey, it happens.

Speaker 8 (01:24:32):
Those two like, no, do me that thing?

Speaker 4 (01:24:34):
Maybe actually feel worse. I was like, please stop. I
understand I fucked up, and I know you're trying to
make me feel good. But the second one out almost no, no, no, no,
Like I like I let the clutch out and I
put the throttle down a little bit and I kind
of just puttered out on me. This second one that
was kind of weird because I had the clutching still
and I pressed I put it in the first and

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then all of a sudden just turned off and I
just I put my hands. I was like, I'm very
nervous right now. Everyone please and the guy over and
like tweet the clutch from me. I'm like, man, it's perfect,
that's that's gonna do it. And did actually, so I
was really happy about it. But even then you hear
me driving off, but it sounds like the bike could
stall it any second.

Speaker 3 (01:25:09):
I was so nervous.

Speaker 4 (01:25:11):
Yeah, before too, they were like, this is a race
engine can't like on this road, be very careful, slips
very easily. So like then I started getting my head
a little bit, like, man, what if I just.

Speaker 3 (01:25:21):
Tip this thing?

Speaker 4 (01:25:22):
And I guess how long how long had it been
since I like driven an actual dirt bike. Probably sixteen
years old?

Speaker 6 (01:25:31):
Is sixteen when you broke your foot or earlier?

Speaker 4 (01:25:33):
And then no, I was twelve when I broke this
with you, your boy, I know, Joe. I put a
little thing on this on Twitter. But like I would
get up in the morning before like middle school and
high school, like six am. And go ride my dirt
bike in the state Land for like an hour, and
then I would come home and get ready for school.
And I would get home and I would get all
my dirt bike and drive to the gas station. I
will I would drive on the roads and then the

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police would get behind me and put in the hitsone.

Speaker 3 (01:25:56):
I was just going to the desert.

Speaker 4 (01:25:58):
I literally was. I like, I felt invincible with the
dirt bike. It was insane.

Speaker 6 (01:26:02):
That's cool, friend, dude.

Speaker 4 (01:26:05):
I truly thought I would go to the super Pumper
gas station on the corner of Dynamite and Tatum, and
I'd get a microwave burrito and I'd fill my gas
tank up and it costs like a dollar fifty and
I'd bring change I put on the counter like Pump three,
like twelve years old.

Speaker 3 (01:26:23):
God pump three, dude, Travis Pastranaus, I know, yeah, that'd
be so sick vlog with them. Get him on the bus,
I know, dude. It literally like.

Speaker 4 (01:26:32):
That was when I saw that bike. When I saw
the bus with the boys on the sides and everything,
I was like, this is that is probably the coolest gift.
I feel weird saying that because I felt there's a
cool gift I've been given out there.

Speaker 3 (01:26:42):
But still from a nostalgia standpoint, little kid, the little
Kid and everything.

Speaker 4 (01:26:46):
Else by far the coolest thing ever. And it was
cool that Mitch made it happen. And Mitch eats, sleeps
and breathes, only thinks about dirt.

Speaker 6 (01:26:53):
By and we just ball bust them, ball bust him
for this last year.

Speaker 3 (01:26:57):
It was truly, dude, it was the coolest thing.

Speaker 4 (01:27:00):
Like I was at home, be like, hey day, we
got a like we just left it there too, Like
Delaney drove it here because I had to go my
I was five minutes late to win soccer game, pulled up.
I was a parent that pulled up and was like, I.

Speaker 1 (01:27:13):
Got out there.

Speaker 3 (01:27:13):
She's like changing in the car on the way over.

Speaker 4 (01:27:16):
Got her out there playing soccer.

Speaker 3 (01:27:17):
She kicked up.

Speaker 4 (01:27:17):
She's gotten better at soccer, by the way.

Speaker 3 (01:27:19):
That's good.

Speaker 4 (01:27:19):
Yeah, she's gotten better. Shout out win, got out win, rebel.
She's having fun now that's all it matters. Shout out Supercross.

Speaker 7 (01:27:25):
Yeah nice, thanks to the dear bike. My shouting over
shadow goes to I guess taking a shot or chance
because this dude DM me on Instagram and you're gonna
be fired up about this. This is something that maybe
we can do as a group and maybe for like
a little under the hood or bus scenes. But he's
like been a huge chan of busting for years. Just

(01:27:47):
opened up a new Philly cheese steak spot in the
Nations here in Nashville. I love you guys, came out
for a cheese steak on the house, no free shout outs.
Brotherly Love cheese Steaks. Look us up, so Lance Harris,
maybe the I went and looked it up and they
look very promising. So that's something like with you know,
slow content week, a little bus scenes action, run out

(01:28:09):
there for lunch or something next week or this can
we get back? Yeah, we'll go today.

Speaker 3 (01:28:15):
Next week would honestly be a great week. Everything's we
get a slower week next week and we get it.

Speaker 7 (01:28:20):
On Tuesday next week.

Speaker 4 (01:28:21):
Yeah down, We'll be out there Tuesday next week.

Speaker 3 (01:28:25):
What is it?

Speaker 6 (01:28:26):
Brotherly love?

Speaker 7 (01:28:26):
Yeah, brother, they love cheese steaks and the Nation's so
official review coming soon. But yeah, you gotta appreciate a
guy just taking a shot, especially one of the lower
level guys here. It's like, probably can't get Willard Taylor
to respond. Maybe we can see if this other guy.

Speaker 6 (01:28:39):
Will, so everybody. If you trying to get everybody d.

Speaker 3 (01:28:44):
Don't do this, but following first, follow him first.

Speaker 7 (01:28:47):
On the note of DMS, though, I did get another
one on Twitter just from a guy saying that they
bought thirteen of the boys hats for his bachelor party.
They're going on to that celebrity golf tournament they do
every year with like Pat and Oh, let's fucking go.
And he said, you bought thirteen of them for all
the homies and he's like, I'm just fired up. We're
all gonna be like strapped up.

Speaker 6 (01:29:04):
And I was like, yeah, let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:29:06):
Hey, but for real, everybody d M Jack McPherson and
just asking a ridiculous question. Yeah, no, no, no, just
a question. I ask for a ridiculous ask question. They
don't even they don't.

Speaker 4 (01:29:21):
Uh, brother they love cheesteaks, M do you.

Speaker 7 (01:29:26):
No, Tom Lance Harris. I guess he's the owner. He's
just saying it's called brotherly love Cheesesteaks.

Speaker 3 (01:29:33):
Yeah, yeah, local boy, Yeah, hometown cheese steak, the local boys. Yeah,
got it. We gotta get Mitch's review on him, even
though I highly question his Uh.

Speaker 8 (01:29:42):
I have no idea, What a Philly cheesteak is? You
think fucking mushrooms going?

Speaker 3 (01:29:46):
All right?

Speaker 4 (01:29:46):
Mitch, I watched a total a little bit that is
your brooms.

Speaker 3 (01:29:50):
Crazy peppers.

Speaker 8 (01:29:52):
It's onions.

Speaker 6 (01:29:54):
It out here, you fucking go.

Speaker 3 (01:29:56):
You don't know what you're talking about. We had the
one in Columbus, Ohio that was a bank. It was
then what do you say, I don't know what a
cheese steak tastes like.

Speaker 8 (01:30:04):
I didn't say you think all these extras? Go ahead?

Speaker 3 (01:30:07):
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(01:30:30):
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Speaker 8 (01:30:44):
This one comes from Aaron Fiel on Instagram. Nervous. You
get four inches to divvy up between your height and
your piece. You can also substitute an inch for ten
pounds of muscle or to lose ten pounds of fat.
How are you divving up your four inches?

Speaker 3 (01:31:04):
Starting with what we have? Now?

Speaker 6 (01:31:06):
Four inches us?

Speaker 3 (01:31:08):
Right now?

Speaker 8 (01:31:08):
Yep?

Speaker 3 (01:31:09):
So I can take four inches off my height and
put it on my piece.

Speaker 8 (01:31:13):
No, you just get a four You just get four
extra inches.

Speaker 3 (01:31:16):
Oh, we're just getting gifted four inches right now.

Speaker 6 (01:31:18):
Yes, we can put it, We can put it harder.

Speaker 7 (01:31:20):
What you're saying might make it a better question.

Speaker 4 (01:31:24):
Is if you give an inch to your piece, it
takes away.

Speaker 7 (01:31:26):
Yeah, it takes an inch from your heart.

Speaker 6 (01:31:29):
What's the muscle and fat thing?

Speaker 3 (01:31:30):
Again?

Speaker 8 (01:31:31):
You can you can substitute an inch. You can substitute
an inch, and you can either.

Speaker 6 (01:31:36):
Take kock an inch to get to lose fat.

Speaker 8 (01:31:38):
So you can, like, say you had four you take
away an inch. You can either use that to get
ten extra pounds of like muscle, or lose ten pounds
of fat. But now you only have three inches left,
if that makes sense, Okay, I'm ready.

Speaker 4 (01:31:54):
So basically, I'm gonna use one of my inches to
gain ten pounds of muscle, one of my inches to
take ten pounds of fat off one inch.

Speaker 3 (01:32:03):
Brother, you I don't think you can take much more fat, Like,
what do you.

Speaker 4 (01:32:08):
What do you mean?

Speaker 7 (01:32:09):
Bro?

Speaker 6 (01:32:09):
You're a lean, mean fighting machine. What are you trying
to You're trying to look sick?

Speaker 5 (01:32:14):
Bro?

Speaker 4 (01:32:14):
Ten pounds of muscle I'm balancing.

Speaker 3 (01:32:16):
I wonder where your body fat is right now.

Speaker 4 (01:32:18):
It's probably high teens, mid teens.

Speaker 3 (01:32:20):
I bet it's around like ten or eleven. No fucking way,
I think.

Speaker 5 (01:32:23):
So.

Speaker 4 (01:32:24):
I appreciate you, by the way, making me blush even
though you tended don't mean his compliment. I will take
one inch to my penis and I'll subtract one inch
from my height, giving me another inch.

Speaker 8 (01:32:39):
No, so the way the way will described it, Jack
or no.

Speaker 3 (01:32:45):
Me, I'm taking one inch losing ten pounds of fat.
I'm putting one inch on my piece and I'm putting
the other two to my height. That's how I dealt
with That's a twisted question, right, Yeah, I just ate
saying Jack. I said something and Jack was like I
think that could be a better word.

Speaker 8 (01:33:05):
Like if you if you add an inch to your piece,
you lose an inch to your height. Yeah, but then
if you add an inch to your height, you lose
an inch on your piece.

Speaker 3 (01:33:13):
Right, I'll take two inches off my height if Yeah,
if we were doing that, I would probably just add
twenty pounds of muscle loose ten pounds of fat. Y. Yeah,
keep my height, keep my piece.

Speaker 4 (01:33:30):
That's all you six to two?

Speaker 3 (01:33:32):
About? What are we for real? Though?

Speaker 6 (01:33:38):
About about six two?

Speaker 3 (01:33:39):
About six two? And if you want to go off
like my proda and everything else, I'm flirting around like that.
I think six to one.

Speaker 4 (01:33:46):
No, I'll give you six one and a half. I'll
give you six to two.

Speaker 3 (01:33:49):
That's what I'm saying that obviously. Yeah, I'm just saying like,
I'll keep my height. Yeah, six to one. We can
say six to one.

Speaker 4 (01:33:57):
So if I lose two inches off my height, where
is that? What do I get?

Speaker 6 (01:34:01):
If you lose two inches off your height, you can
go two inches to your piece?

Speaker 3 (01:34:04):
Okay, say monster?

Speaker 4 (01:34:08):
Yeah, I know. Well now average Now we gotta remember.
Now we got something that I'm not afraid.

Speaker 3 (01:34:16):
And this is a pipe like when we remember when
we were going to a Notre Dame. You said you
could barely fit your piece and a white That's how
I meant.

Speaker 6 (01:34:25):
That is definitely how you meant.

Speaker 7 (01:34:27):
I meant to say.

Speaker 4 (01:34:28):
It was more commenting on how much weight to have lost.
It's my pieces you got bigger from losing.

Speaker 8 (01:34:34):
I can't, I can't.

Speaker 3 (01:34:36):
I remember the delivery.

Speaker 4 (01:34:38):
It was a delivery.

Speaker 3 (01:34:39):
I would.

Speaker 4 (01:34:40):
Yeah, I'll take two inches off my height for sure.
I probably want two inches off my height anyway. I'm
a little I'm too tall.

Speaker 3 (01:34:47):
Yeah, I'm kind of too I am too tall. I
think you're solid.

Speaker 4 (01:34:51):
I mean you are, yeah, but six sevens like giraffe
people go when you walk by.

Speaker 3 (01:34:58):
All I'm saying is that'd be a great usage of
your whatever it is, your four points. Yeah, because it
seems like it's either use your point as an inch
or gaining ten pounds of muscle or losing ten pounds
of fat. Is that what you guys are doing? What
are you guys doing? Yeah? Or if I switched it
up at all, it'd still be it'd be ten. If
I took an inch, I'd add it to my height
ten pounds to use one more point ten pounds of

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muscle two points for twenty pounds of fat. You just
shook five points, no four, take one point, add it
to my height. So that's you just get to one point,
take one my second point, and add ten pounds of muscle,
my third and fourth point twenty pounds of fat. Keep
my very average, approachable.

Speaker 4 (01:35:41):
Piece, huggable, huggable, presentable. It's handsome. Yeah, you've got a
handsome piece. That's really all that matters. Yeah, just searching
for mouth hugs.

Speaker 3 (01:35:52):
I was gonna say, you haven't even seen them, stiff,
but you have, so have I?

Speaker 6 (01:36:03):
Yeah, all right, what do you guys do?

Speaker 8 (01:36:06):
All right, I'll add I'll take two points to my
height and I'll do one muscle in one fat.

Speaker 3 (01:36:14):
Yeah, a little nub.

Speaker 8 (01:36:16):
Is that what we're We're doing it the way.

Speaker 3 (01:36:18):
Yeah, we're doing the way we've been talking about it. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:36:20):
M hmm, jack, what are you going?

Speaker 7 (01:36:23):
One all around, one piece, one high, ten muscle, ten
less fat?

Speaker 8 (01:36:28):
Yeah, I think yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:36:29):
So the only thing that change distribution, Yeah, just so
nothing changes too drastically. Ye're gonna be falling over you know.

Speaker 3 (01:36:36):
Yeah, kickstand that mini me kickstand. Shall we get into
the uh coach landing at interview. This a banger, and
anybody from the Oregon fan base who's listened to one
hundred or an hour and forty minutes of our bullshit,
welcome to Busting with the boys.

Speaker 6 (01:36:53):
This is but this has been a good bustle.

Speaker 4 (01:36:55):
It's been a fun bust with the boys. This is
Busting the Boys at full power.

Speaker 3 (01:36:58):
Yeah, yeah, just the boys hanging to talk and chop
loving stories. But you guys are gonna love this coach
Landing episode. We talk about his journey, we talk about
the biggest moves he's made within his coaching career, having
a job, taking a lesser one just to you know,
give himself more opportunity and potential. He's got a group
chat that he runs where there's a committee involved in everything,

(01:37:19):
where the boy's going an annual trip. I might have
gotten the invite to that, really, but it's a fun episode.
You guys are really like this. But yeah, after this
ad read here is coach Dan Lanning, Hey, coach of Morgan.

Speaker 4 (01:37:33):
We enter up this episode to bring you something called
true classic. And there's a whole sheet here. There's a
sheet up there that I could talk to you about.
But really it's about what I'm wearing right now. And
let me tell you, I'm a gentleman that stands at
six seven. My body's a whole different shapes, a whole
a bunch of different times, kind of like a Jonah
Hill type. And every time I would go to the
store and I would go, I'm gonna buy myself a

(01:37:53):
new pair of pants, I'm gonna get myself a new shirt,
I would truly run into a situation where I would
leave the store upset shirts too. Oh it's too baggy.
Now it's not fitting the way I like. Oh these
pants are great, but it's crabbing my thighs too much. Oh,
my little baby calves are now squeezing through.

Speaker 3 (01:38:08):
Because they're too tight.

Speaker 4 (01:38:09):
Oh the waistband, I can't get it going. I'm gonna
show you these that's my nugget right there. But look
at these little boys are here. These are the tighter
feeding ones. Let me see your nugget.

Speaker 3 (01:38:19):
Yeah, because you like them tight, I do like them tight.
You can kind of see the outline right there.

Speaker 8 (01:38:24):
But look at these things.

Speaker 6 (01:38:28):
Yeah, they are extremely flexible.

Speaker 7 (01:38:32):
Can you get the wine shot on this thing?

Speaker 3 (01:38:34):
To watch this hit? A full squad that hurts my knee.
That's a great squat yeh.

Speaker 7 (01:38:40):
And it's comfortable too.

Speaker 4 (01:38:42):
They got stretched, they move around the waistband. These are
thirty six thirty six. If you're wondering, the waistband is
forgiving and it's got that. It doesn't have that waistband
you know when you put underwear on sometimes and then
the underwear like kind of grabs and you look back
at those hips and you're like, God, why do we
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with these jeans. They fit comfortable, they fit sturdy, and

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they're not going to drag down your.

Speaker 3 (01:39:03):
Ass if you don't like him. If you don't like
him snug like that. They got different varieties. And I
see you, I see you rocking the Yeah, you rocking
the hoodie that was it's nice. That was a willy
Ce staple back in the fall or winter time.

Speaker 4 (01:39:14):
And how many times are in the falls that I
look at you?

Speaker 6 (01:39:16):
Oh so many times?

Speaker 4 (01:39:18):
Yes, I was like, dude, where'd you get those?

Speaker 3 (01:39:20):
Because they're they're button down, they're short sleeve button down
that I would rock on the Pro Football Football show.
And just their blank te's, I like just a sleek
plain tea fit you just right leaves a little like
you said, leaves a little wind to kind of you know,
if you're a little if you feel a little heavier,
like Burt Kreischer would put this on and he looked
like an athlete. Yeah, there's no question about that.

Speaker 4 (01:39:40):
It grabs the shirts, they grab the shoulders and the chest,
but then they kind of let you live a little
bit and the tots.

Speaker 3 (01:39:46):
How you got a casual look, the casual feel that
you want every day, but also a little bit of
like professionalism. Right, Maybe that's not the right word professionalism,
because it was like it's like a balance in between
the two to where you're you're comfortable, you're relaxed all day,
but you can wear something to where you can kind
of like rock around the office if you know your
office that you wear some casual wear.

Speaker 4 (01:40:06):
Yeah, and a lot of people like to wear like
stuff with a bunch of like designer that this dude
you walk around with these clothes on. It's like, Oh,
that's just sharp dressed man right there. That's an easy time.
That's a sharp dressed man just walking by.

Speaker 6 (01:40:17):
He's not trying to make colors.

Speaker 4 (01:40:18):
Like good colors, like good quality fabrics. Dude, Well, I'll
read you a couple of points, but I really want
to tell you how I actually feel because first time
in my life, this is the first time in my
life that I have owned more than three pairs of
pants that I truly will be like, I could wear
any of these any day of the week.

Speaker 6 (01:40:35):
You were fired up and we got this when they
came on board.

Speaker 4 (01:40:37):
One of the first things I said when I saw you,
I gave you a big, a big boy hug. We
had a nice embrace after not seeing each other for
thirty days, and I go, dude, I got my true classes. Yeah,
so far I was wearing the sweatpants.

Speaker 3 (01:40:47):
I was wearing the sweatpants. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:40:48):
And now for thirty six thirty six, they don't have
thirty six length yet. The boys they made this for me,
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Microbio what's that word anti anti microbe microbial.

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Speaker 3 (01:41:57):
Enjoy Coach Dan Lanning. When I listened to Brenhaman's because
I did one with him as well. He like came
out to Nashville and we set out, and I was
listening to hers on Brennaman and learning about Missouri, being
a Missouri boy and everything else, like are we rolling,
We're good to go. I was listening to Adam Brenneman's
interview with you, and it was juicy bro like thinking

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number one. Both Missouri Boys. So everybody listening right now
said the boys. Yeah, they showed me state Missouri Boys
and being a high school coach at Park South and
driving fucking thirteen hours off of a coach's clinic connection. Yeah,
there was a I mean I want to because those
things are chaotic. Yeah, they didn't really know me.

Speaker 2 (01:42:38):
It was one of those like I'd gotten a phone call,
I'd sent letters everywhere, I'd gotten a phone call, and
I just told my wife was like, this is the
first time anybody's even called me back.

Speaker 1 (01:42:45):
And then it kind of came and went and said
I gotta go drive there. I gotta go, you know,
take a chance.

Speaker 3 (01:42:50):
Yeah. But like my brother, he's a high school coach
and he kind of came out to one of the
coaching conventions they hold him at. There's one in Nashville
at the Opera or whatever, and they're just like, it's
just like at Zoo. I mean, the who's who, they're there,
they're out there, they're having a good time or whatever.
It's just you know, you go to Nashville and then
a lot of guys, I'm assuming like yourself at that time,
you're sending emails, letters and everything. You're just literally trying

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to get in the hand and shake a hand. I
want to have a conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:43:14):
I want to I want to pour coffee like whatever,
just to get in the building.

Speaker 6 (01:43:18):
Well, but where did that? Where did that come from?

Speaker 8 (01:43:20):
For you?

Speaker 3 (01:43:20):
Is it dead linebacker mentality? You know that?

Speaker 2 (01:43:22):
And just never wanted to live with regret and and
early on realizing okay, like I have a greater passion
for this.

Speaker 1 (01:43:29):
You know, para teacher conferences those are cool and all.

Speaker 2 (01:43:31):
Yeah, but I want to coach ball. Yeah, and I
want to be somewhere where it's about ball more often
than not.

Speaker 3 (01:43:36):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:43:36):
Uh, even that's changed in college football, you know, but uh,
the aspiration just to get to the highest level and
and not sit here and say, man, maybe I could
have if I would have sacrificed something.

Speaker 3 (01:43:46):
So has it always been that way? If you always
wanted to be a head coach, I don't know, or
chase the dream head coach?

Speaker 2 (01:43:51):
Yeah, I always wanted to see you know where, and uh,
you know what the end all goal could be, you
know what what you could achieve and some of that
reset you know, I've told people this four but when
my wife got sick. You know, it kind of made
you say, okay, like step back, who really cares about
this other stuff. It's about your family, It's about taking
care of your three boys. And I probably I was
probably really selfish early on in my career, right, like

(01:44:12):
how can I move up the ladder? You know, there's
only one o line coach or one linebacker coach in
each town. So if you're gonna continue advance, you gotta
youa leave town. You gotta go somewhere else.

Speaker 3 (01:44:20):
And and and you're in you're literally twelve hours a day.
I more, sometimes more.

Speaker 2 (01:44:23):
Than that when yeah, yeah, when we're I mean you
sleep in the office especially, you know, early on in
your career, there probably hasn't been a place that I've
worked where I haven't slept in the office at some point,
you know, wherever I'm at, and uh, that's sometimes that's
required sometimes, you know, I've learned how to be a
little bit more.

Speaker 1 (01:44:36):
Efficient there and balance it. But you have to be
willing to do more when you're at the bottom of
the totem pole right to advance.

Speaker 3 (01:44:43):
And if for any GA's young coaches out there listening,
like what what are those gritty things that you would
be more willing to do than the next guy, because
there's so many of g there's so many of those
guys that's trying to get their foot in the door.
You obviously, you know you're driving thirteen hours just for
an interview a pit just to I think I believe
I heard right. The coaches were at Penn State that day,

(01:45:04):
so it didn't even happen that day. You're changing into
a suit at the gas station and you're talking about
you're alluded to things like not everybody's willing to pour
a cup of coffee. Make sure the guy ahead of
you his call sheet looks the way he wants it,
because if he gets promoted, I could be a guy
that you know, I was joking with JP Dee, or
I know how to run the computer, I know how
to run the technology out. What What are some bits
of advice you would give to those young coach?

Speaker 2 (01:45:26):
Yeah, just I think every coach has aspirations of being
the offensive coordinator, the defensive coordinator, the head coach. And
the reality is you got to go find all the
jobs that nobody wants to do and become the best
at them, right, Like like making a call sheet and
you know, making yourself to where when this guy leaves,
he's like, hey, how do I open up this file?

Speaker 3 (01:45:41):
Yeah? You know, how do I create this?

Speaker 6 (01:45:43):
How can I make this cut up when the film
shuts down?

Speaker 3 (01:45:45):
Yeah? Find all that?

Speaker 2 (01:45:46):
I mean, I remember going to men's warehouse to pick
up a coach of socks. You know, certainly wasn't what
I wanted to do at the time.

Speaker 3 (01:45:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:45:51):
Right, But if that, you know, gave me favor with
that coach for an opportunity to you know, be his
guy that he trusted, then you do whatever it is, is.

Speaker 3 (01:45:59):
The head coach gig everything you thought it'd be. You know,
I love a lot of pieces of it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:03):
I love the fact that you get to interact with
more position groups than just one side of the ball.
There's certainly a lot of headaches, but every job has headaches.
I mean, it's it's a ton of fun, and it's
a lot of fun in this place. It's just, you know,
fun being a place where you have great support and
where you have players that are really good.

Speaker 3 (01:46:18):
If let's just hypothetically say the cameras are turned off,
what's one thing you bitch about the cameras? Yah? Yeah,
what's one thing you's bitch about with the job, Oh,
let's just say complain.

Speaker 2 (01:46:27):
Yeah, I'll be honest, I don't. I don't bitch a
lot because I realize how lucky and fortunate I am.
I mean, I think the landscape of college football is
changing drastically and everybody, everybody speaks to that.

Speaker 3 (01:46:36):
Do you love every piece of that?

Speaker 2 (01:46:38):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:46:38):
But you better be willing to adapt.

Speaker 2 (01:46:39):
I think the more time you spend complaining, you know,
the less you are focusing on getting better. And I
don't take a lot of those problems home. One of
the benefits for me is my wife never really asked
me about work, which I don't want her to. Yeah,
I spend all my time talking about work at work,
so when I get home, it's that chance to uh,
you know, kind of kind of check out after you
can get done making your recruiting calls and stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:46:59):
You're talking earlier about how your perspective shifted, like when
your wife had gotten sick and everything else. How do you,
I guess, work on that work life balance when you know,
because especially in the you know, really any industry, if
you're somebody who's ambitious to do anything great, you got
to be a little cynical. You got to be a
little obsessive. You got to like, like you said, like
you're you're selfish because you're trying to go after your thing.

(01:47:20):
Talk about how you worked on that work life balance
as your perspective shifted.

Speaker 2 (01:47:24):
Well, one thing I'll say is that there isn't balance.
You know, there is no balance in this profession. There's
no balance in your profession. We want to be great, right,
so there's gonna be sacrificed. We talked to the same
thing with our players, like, if you want to be
great at something, you've got to be willing to sacrifice
something that's valuable, right, And one of those things we
sacrifice is time with our family. So that's not going
to come back for me to be the best coach
I can be here at Oregon, I'm gonna be eliminating

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some of that time that I spend with my crew.
And what it means is when I do have that time,
it's got to be important. It's got to be intentional.
You gotta figure out ways to incorporate what you got
to do with work with what you got to do
at home. So like last night, the entire team's over
at my house, right, hanging out with my wife and
kids to be with my family, but they get to
be there too, the extended family.

Speaker 3 (01:48:05):
When when your wife was sick, was there ever a
moment to where you thought, Okay, maybe I need to shift,
Maybe this isn't what I need to go after, maybe
I need to do something else, like talk about those
moments to where there I would assume that there were
some lows and even some hard conversations.

Speaker 2 (01:48:22):
I would assume, yeah, there were, there were certainly some lows.
You know, I don't think I ever wavered and what
I wanted to be able to do. Uh, I just
probably became a man of faith a lot more and
got on my knees a little bit more, you know,
speaking to a greater power to say, hey, I can't
do this alone. I need this lady here with me.
And uh, I always knew that I was going to continue, coach.
I don't think that ever that ever shifted. But you
got to solve problems. You know, you have to get

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a sitter, you have to get somebody that can kind
of help out with the kids. And you know, more
than anything, it probably shifts your aspirations in your focus.

Speaker 3 (01:48:53):
Yeah, I'm uh again, fascinated listening to uh To Breneman's
interview with you. But we got to sit with coach
Norvelle a couple of weeks ago, and something that really
stood out talking to him is when he's sitting there,
he's just preaching gospel about you know, his how he
worked and very similar to your style of coming through
it all. But one thing that stood out was like
never working for the job that you currently have, always

(01:49:15):
working for the next job. That was something walking away
from its like, oh, that's like, you know, that's something juicy.
You love to hear. You see him very much cut
from the same cloth. What are some things that you
learned from Coach norvel getting to work under him.

Speaker 2 (01:49:27):
Yeah, I mean, Mike has a crazy passion for the game.
When it comes to like his intensity. You want to
see that start at the top, right. You want to
a head coach that you know he's not going to
ask you to do anything that he's not willing to do.
He put in the work, he put in the time,
He looked at things outside the box, right, And that's
what I hope people see here is one you.

Speaker 1 (01:49:47):
See the details because all the details matter.

Speaker 3 (01:49:49):
Especially at this level.

Speaker 2 (01:49:51):
But a guy that's willing to put it in everything
that they have to for us to be successful, and
willing to adapt and change.

Speaker 1 (01:49:56):
I think that's where a lot of coaches mess up.

Speaker 3 (01:49:58):
I know you've said that they're too many moments, too many,
like you know, breakthrough moments. But is there one job
shift that you made, a one decision that you made
that really kind of puts you in the right spot
to where you knew some things might come together sooner
rather than later because of a choice that you made.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:50:14):
It's something I can appreciate now more than I did
probably at the moment. I was a full time coach
at sam Houston State as a dB coach. I was
finally making a little bit of money. We had three
kids and kind of living under our means, and I
got an opportunity to be a graduate assistant in Alabama.

Speaker 3 (01:50:29):
And if you go back and look at.

Speaker 2 (01:50:29):
That staff now as an all star staff, you crazy staff.
You know Coach Saban, Coach Smart, you know Lane Kiff
and Mario Cristobaul mel Tucker, Billy Napier. I mean, the
list kind of just goes on and on, and the
guys that are on that staff and I learned more
in football that year in twenty fifteen than I'd ever
learned in my career.

Speaker 3 (01:50:47):
What was that interview like, going out to going out
to interview with that with Alabama?

Speaker 2 (01:50:51):
Yeah, you know, nothing that I had ever been prepared for.
You know, I kind of assumed i'd be a fly
on the wall, and this is a GA job. It's
not like it's the most important role in the building.
But to sit there with coach saving and he's asking
you questions about your philosophy on pump protection, that's not
something I had dialed up ready.

Speaker 1 (01:51:07):
You know, I have my thoughts and I shared him.

Speaker 2 (01:51:09):
But you got to meet with everybody in the organization,
you know, from position coaches to administrative staff.

Speaker 3 (01:51:15):
You know, I thought they did a really good job of.

Speaker 2 (01:51:16):
Being meticulous in that process, getting feedback from everybody in
the building what you think of this guy.

Speaker 3 (01:51:21):
So it's a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (01:51:22):
I still got the voicemail saved on my phone today
of coach Sabing calling and you know, saying, hey, give
me a call back.

Speaker 1 (01:51:27):
Was him offering me the job.

Speaker 3 (01:51:28):
Oh that's fucking awesome. Not deleting that. Yeah, did you
walk away from that interview being like, damn, I wasn't prepared.

Speaker 2 (01:51:34):
Like no, I felt good about the interview, but the
process took a while, right, there were some other guys
they interviewed, and I didn't know that I was going
to get the job.

Speaker 3 (01:51:41):
But you know, the big difference there is you go
take that job.

Speaker 2 (01:51:43):
I'm making decent money, not great money, and you go
take that job. You're making twelve hundred bucks a month,
three kids, and you're don't have insurance. Again, all of
a sudden, you're on EBT. I mean, it doesn't make sense, right.

Speaker 3 (01:51:54):
You're just cutting up tape for all the cutouts for
all the personnels and formations. Yeah, you're doing a little
bit of everything, doing a little bit of everything.

Speaker 2 (01:51:59):
So it's uh, you know, you take a step backwards
financially to take a step forwards from a professional standpoint.

Speaker 3 (01:52:05):
Yeah, you got any good Kiffin stories? I got some
good Kif I've seen some.

Speaker 6 (01:52:09):
You got one that you can tell.

Speaker 3 (01:52:11):
I don't know what I got.

Speaker 2 (01:52:13):
I'll say this, I've seen Lane and he can take
an ass chewing, you know, And I've seen that happen before,
you know, multiple times. You know, it's something he was
He became privy to there at Alabama. But he was
able to dust it off pretty well. You know, it
never really affected him.

Speaker 3 (01:52:29):
Yeah, that's awesome. Well, I think we had a body
armor question. Do we just got to say body arm
or do I need to do it like a little read? Okay, okay,
because I do want to ask. I want to ask
your your biggest ass chewing story that you took personally
that just had you beaten down from a certain coach

(01:52:50):
or any coach from any Let's do both. Let's see both.

Speaker 6 (01:52:53):
Well, I mean, did you ever have one? Did you
ever have one?

Speaker 3 (01:52:55):
Saving? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:52:56):
And it's the craziest deal because you know, the best
position to be at in Alabama with coach saving is
to really be in the outfield.

Speaker 3 (01:53:03):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:53:03):
You got the infield that's all the full time coaches.
But to be in the outfield, you're kind of safe.
Like you're the guys that laugh at all the head
coaches jokes. You see other guys get their ass rip,
but you're kind of it's not your.

Speaker 3 (01:53:14):
Position, it's not so. I was in the outfield. I
was a GA.

Speaker 2 (01:53:18):
But I remember we ran a kids camp and we
must have been working like seven eight year old kids, right,
But he ran kids camp like we're running Alabama like
fall training camp, and this is I get there kind
of late, and I'm kind of just learning the process.

Speaker 1 (01:53:32):
I'm a little bit of a fly on the wall.

Speaker 2 (01:53:33):
And one of our strength coaches is running back drills
and he leaves, right, So he leaves the bag drills.

Speaker 3 (01:53:38):
He got to go work out our guys.

Speaker 2 (01:53:39):
So I just started doing back drills like I did
at park Hill South, or like I did at Sam
Houston State, and I was not doing bag drills right.
Coach Saban came over and it happened to be a
day that Paul Finebaum was falling around, and he let
into me. He let me know what bag drills were
supposed to look like, you know, and it was a
great example of how everything mattered to him.

Speaker 1 (01:53:57):
It didn't matter we were coaching eight year olds, right,
It mattered what you were doing the drill.

Speaker 8 (01:54:00):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:54:00):
So I stayed up that night and watched every drill
to make sure I had a mask or just in
case I got thrown in the fire.

Speaker 3 (01:54:05):
Now, how about any coach the biggest, Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:54:07):
Man, I've had a lot of them, right, I had
a lot of them. Curry Smart's, you know, a great
a professional. Given those you know, Todd Graham is the best.

Speaker 3 (01:54:15):
But usually once you once you take a few year
kind of like and then you see the new guy
get it. You're like a it's part of the gig.
What was one that really puts you?

Speaker 2 (01:54:22):
I'll say early as a coach, you know, Todd Graham
probably prepared me for a lot of future astruists.

Speaker 3 (01:54:27):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:54:28):
So early as a coach, I was running the scout team.

Speaker 2 (01:54:30):
You know, I was a gat this time. You only
had one ga on offense, one g on defense. I
was kind of coaching all eleven on offense. After practice
one day, Coach Graham goes, man, I'm sorry, you know,
I apologize. We have the worst scout team in the nation.
And it's not your fault. It's my fault because I
hired the guy. He runs the scout He points to me, right,
he runs the scout team, and he is the worst.

(01:54:52):
And I couldn't have been smaller in that moment. I've
just been coaching high school ball the year before, and uh,
let's just say this. The scout team got better. But
it was good humbling moment for me.

Speaker 3 (01:55:01):
Oh fuck man, I'm just trying to just trying to
imagine in that moment, are you thinking that You're probably
thinking maybe of a couple of players like you if
you guys would have just fucking look at the court.

Speaker 2 (01:55:10):
Oh no, in that moment, you're thinking about should I
stay a high school coach? Should I go back to
Missouri right now to go coach high school ball?

Speaker 5 (01:55:16):
So?

Speaker 1 (01:55:17):
Uh no, it's humbling experience, right which you can't cry
and spilled milk.

Speaker 3 (01:55:20):
Yeah, yeah, keep rolling. Talk about your process of being
the head coach of the University of Oregon. Wow, that
panned out for you.

Speaker 2 (01:55:27):
Yeah, it's been great, And it really goes back to
the guys that I got to work with before. I
got to see some great coaches do this, you know,
whether and every one of them was different. Kirby's different
than Nick. You know, Nick's different than Mike. Mike's different
than Casey, Keeler and Todd, so the you know, I'm
relatively young in this position, but I got to see
a lot of really great coaches do it in this seat.
And I think the biggest thing I learned is I
got to be me right. But there is a process

(01:55:49):
that you believe in. Uh And I've probably stolen something
kind of from each guy. The other piece is figuring
out what the weakness is on your team and saying, Okay,
how are we attacking that rather than just rolling with
the script or the practice face that existed three hundred
and sixty five days ago. Because it is changing. So
I'm continuing to grow. I'm not there yet, right, I
got a lot of growth to make. That's the same
thing I challenge our players with. And if you want

(01:56:09):
to grow, you gotta get uncomfortable.

Speaker 3 (01:56:11):
When you were in the interview process with becoming the
head coach of Oregon, was it a time where U
and I apologize for being unfamiliar with now all the
interview processes and everything else. But was it one of
those situations where you're hitting the interview circuit and thinking like, Okay,
maybe I'll be a year involved and kind of hit
this and kind of have it for the resume and
then maybe the next year or you got in the

(01:56:32):
room and they're like, hey, we can't let this man leave.
Like a story that I'm thinking of is McVeigh when
he went to the Rams when he was the OC
of Washington. You know, he was going in the interview circuit.
I remember sitting down having lunch with him, and he
was like, you know, this is usually where you know
you'll go around. You'll get in the interview circuit because
I've always been fascinated with getting and coaching as well, right,
And he was like, you know, I'll do this for

(01:56:55):
a year, kind of get in the conversations and everything else,
and usually it becomes after that. I remember when he
went to the RAMS coach Phillips was like, yeah, I
dont think they're letting him leave the building without a contract.
Talk about the interview process and that experience being a
d C.

Speaker 2 (01:57:09):
Yeah, college is a little bit different, you know, but
there were some There were some opportunities to interview for
head coaching jobs before, so it wasn't my first interview,
but they they kind of come to you.

Speaker 3 (01:57:17):
You don't know when it's gonna come.

Speaker 2 (01:57:19):
I mean, on this one, I'm actually flying on a
trip to Miami to do official visits. So I'm recruiting
for Georgia and at the time really really satisfied with
my you know, situation at Georgia.

Speaker 3 (01:57:28):
We just lost the SEC championship.

Speaker 2 (01:57:29):
I'm kind of focused on the roads or some me
be the Orange Bowl, but I'm going down here to
recruit it, and I get a call saying, hey, these
guys want to.

Speaker 3 (01:57:35):
Hop on a zoom.

Speaker 2 (01:57:36):
So I do a zoom, you know, in an airport,
fbo throwing kind of a suit coat. And that was
just kind of the start of it. And it really
escalated really fast after that night, after that initial zoom,
with some more phone calls and goes quick.

Speaker 3 (01:57:49):
You know, you never know when it's gonna come.

Speaker 2 (01:57:50):
There were times where I thought I'd get offer a
head coaching job and I didn't, And then this one
is probably one that I didn't think was next. I
didn't have a connection to Orgon. I'd never been to
Oregon until I got off the plane here as the
head coach, so I knew what it was somewhere I
wanted to be, but I wasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:58:03):
As familiar, you know, with it, or had any ties
to it.

Speaker 2 (01:58:05):
So go through that process, every one of them is different,
and this one it just you could tell that there
was a really unique vision and you know it was
all in sync, it all in line with what you
want as a head coach.

Speaker 6 (01:58:17):
Was it with with Oregon?

Speaker 3 (01:58:19):
Was it one of those things when you're interviewing to
be a headman to where you're kind of wanting to
be a little choosier or pick the right situation, like
had you know anybody, whether it's Norvelle saving any of
these guys before you coach smart kind of giving you
any advice on Hey, whenever you do get an opportunity,
to make sure it's the right one.

Speaker 2 (01:58:34):
Well, I knew I could be picky because I knew
had a really good job, right. I really enjoyed being
the decordinator at Georgia. Got to coach some really good players.
You know, we were competing for championships there. Got to
win a national championship that last year. So I knew
I had a good job and I wasn't gonna leave
for a bad job. You know, I always think the
job you take has to align with your goals, like
where you're gonna grow. It's not about how much you're
gonna make. Who cares about that? Yeah, I gotta win, right,

(01:58:54):
I knew I could win here, right, that was really important.
I had to know that there was support, So yeah,
they're definite. Only had to be some things in the line,
but organ checked every one of those boxes, and.

Speaker 3 (01:59:03):
Then you know you have a couple of successful years,
the Alabama job opens up. How how real could that
opportunity have been had you sought that out, because obviously
you know I saw your video whenever you were saying
very juicy. By the way, that was a phenomenal job
by you. Guys.

Speaker 6 (01:59:22):
Poor who has goals and aspirations?

Speaker 3 (01:59:24):
Raise your hand up, all right.

Speaker 9 (01:59:26):
Everybody got goals and aspirations. You know how you get those,
you'd be the best where you're at. That's how you
reach goals and aspirations. That's how great dangs happen. It's
not about worrying about the next day. It's about worrying
what's right in front of you, six inches right in
front of your face. I want to remind you, guys
what that means. You guys just got here, don't know
them right. It means something being working done. Everybody makes
what they all make commitments and thanks they're going to

(01:59:48):
do a lot of stars.

Speaker 6 (01:59:49):
The world didn't have a lot of what finishers. We're
finishing you.

Speaker 2 (01:59:52):
I want to be here in Eugene for as long
as Eugene don't have me. This place has everything that
I could possibly ever want. Is a little bit of
a in society today with people looking for what's next
and where there's an opportunity, and the reality is, you know,
the grass is not always greener.

Speaker 6 (02:00:09):
In fact, the grass is damn green and Eugene.

Speaker 3 (02:00:20):
But obviously you want to stay here and have your
roots and everything here and be here for a long time.
But how real was that potential to be the Alabama's
head couch or be in the mix for the conversation?

Speaker 2 (02:00:30):
Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I think there's there's
been a lot of opportunities that were real. But if
you we're never gonna let it get real here. I'm
exactly where I want to be, right. I've said it
a lot, but you know I've got right now. I
have an eleven year old, a twelve year old, and
a fourteen year old. I'm committed to those guys finishing
school here, right and for me to do that, we
gotta win, right, So are there I'm not interested in
the other opportunity.

Speaker 1 (02:00:49):
One of the reasons we released the videos.

Speaker 2 (02:00:51):
I'm talking to a recruits mom the night before and
she's saying, I'm seeing all over you know, the internet.

Speaker 3 (02:00:56):
The year lead.

Speaker 2 (02:00:59):
Targets on you like he's gonna be the priority, right,
I need I need this ticle. And so we actually
were talking on the phone. It's like, what would make
you feel comfortable? I'm telling you I'm not going anywhere.
What would make you feel comfortable? Are you gonna make
an announcemre? I said, how about I make a video?
So we make we make a video and I send
it to her first before I ever before we ever
released this, and because she had just gone through the
same experience with another coach telling her she wasn't he

(02:01:20):
wasn't gonna leave, and apparently a lot of coaches say
one thing and then do another. Yeah, So I just
wanted to make sure that we got this kid, and uh,
you know, we're building something here, and you know, I
think a lot of people leave before they ever get
to see what they can accomplish and what's finished.

Speaker 3 (02:01:34):
You've you've talked about alluding to the book Good to
Great and you know what is it? Walking walking twenty miles? Yeah,
twenty mile march, the twenty mile march?

Speaker 2 (02:01:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:01:44):
What are some things you take out of that book
outside of the twenty mile March? And also are you
making are these guys reading this? Are these guys reading
the book? Too well or are you just kind of
going over it? Yeah, they don't. They don't necessarily read
the whole book. Okay.

Speaker 2 (02:01:55):
You know I've had one player after I get up
here and talk through a book that asked me afterwards, hey,
what was that book? And they come grab Christian Zalaz
first round pick for the Patriots. He's like, that was
really good? Can can I read that book? So I
wasn't a big book rader, but I'm looking for.

Speaker 3 (02:02:07):
Ways to grow. Right now.

Speaker 2 (02:02:08):
We're really studying the book Art of War Masunsu and
then in Potential by Adam Grant. You know, I think
those are both some great books that you know, allude
to growth. Right So we're always trying to look for something,
and it's different every year. But probably the biggest thing
out of Good to Great was what I can do different?
Not so much about what the team can do different.
But if you want to have a you know, great organization,
you got to have level five leadership and what's that

(02:02:30):
look like. You gotta be humble, You got to be
willing to grow. You can't be the guy that's always
pointing out what everybody else is doing wrong. I gotta
be a thumb pointer and you pick up on a
lot of pieces like that.

Speaker 3 (02:02:40):
Is there anything with the head coaching job that was
a surprise for Okay, I anticipated a little bit differently
being a coordinator, being a position coach, that you learned
about becoming the head coach like any any you know,
harder situation, harder situations with players are instilling all of
this philosophy and getting it amongst the entire group.

Speaker 2 (02:02:59):
Yeah, I mean, one understand that you don't want a
coaching staff that has a bunch of use right. You
want a coaching staff that's diverse, that can relate to
players in different ways. And you know, what you define
as a good head or as a good position coach
isn't always the exact mirror of you.

Speaker 3 (02:03:11):
You want some other pieces to that.

Speaker 2 (02:03:13):
I think the other thing that you find out really
quick is a head coach is your time's not your
time anymore. You might think you can get up here
early and watch some film, but as soon as you
walk in, somebody's knocking on your door. You start to
learn to appreciate people can solve problems right, like if
they can figure it out and you can tell them
later how you did it wrong.

Speaker 3 (02:03:28):
But this is what we're gonna do.

Speaker 2 (02:03:29):
And then you can't be afraid of confrontation, right, That's
that's part of the role. You got to be willing
to tell people when it doesn't look the way you
want to look, and you're not You're not here to
make friends, right, You're you're here to run an organization
and do it the right way.

Speaker 3 (02:03:41):
But you can do that with respect and the way
that you do it. Yeah, because that right, it's so
much easier said than done, especially with the confrontational.

Speaker 1 (02:03:47):
People avoid confrontation and it's necessary to grow.

Speaker 9 (02:03:50):
Right.

Speaker 1 (02:03:50):
If you never identify what's what's not going right, you're
never gonna get it right.

Speaker 3 (02:03:53):
Yeah. Oh, man, I had a question that you were
talking about.

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Speaker 3 (02:05:06):
Sorry, this is what my brain does. Yeah, David dave
Port always on his show this morning, He's like will
he just can't help it. His brain it's filled with rocks.
He'll continue to this.

Speaker 6 (02:05:18):
Yeah, bro, this is keep Yeah. Yeah, yeah, So we
had this, we had.

Speaker 3 (02:05:22):
This beer lit we have this annual beer Olympics that
we do and with the NFL schedules, got one similar
with my buddies. Oh yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 6 (02:05:29):
Can't wait to ask about that. Yeah, I know you,
I know you're kind of that you're the you're the
head man.

Speaker 3 (02:05:32):
In the group chat. I'll get to that. Uh, but yeah,
we have this Beer Olympics that we set up and
we tailored around the schedules of the NFL guys, and
we always do it the last week of June because
when when Mini Camp is done, guys have a like
six weeks to kind of do their thing. Well, the
first week after Mini Camp is over is Tighten You.
And George he's our boys, so we kind of we
go to Tighten You. We do tight and you get
some interviews there. So we do it the week after.

(02:05:53):
We do it the last week in June because in July,
everybody's gonna be they're gonna be in it. They're gonna
be in the trenches, they're gonna be trying to get better,
they're gonna be ready to go for training camp. So
we set it up the very last week. We've done
for three years in a row, and all of a sudden,
Barstool has something the same week. Dave and them, they're
making it about that. We changed up all the barstool
scheduling tailored around the football guys, and then we exclusively

(02:06:16):
tailored it around the Kelsey brothers. We sat with Jason
at the Super Bowl and they were like, man, we
don't know if we could make this work. Travis is
really adamant about doing it. We're going to like, we
want to try to make this work. If you could
do it Monday Tuesday instead of Wednesday Thursday, same last week,
then we'll be able to do it. So we tailored
it around Kelsey brothers. Travis gives the call the other
day and it was not good news. He's like, hey, Taylor, so.

Speaker 6 (02:06:41):
Yeah, it must be something with Taylor.

Speaker 3 (02:06:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, something. You know, when you're a superstar
and then you're dating like the most popular person in
the world, schedules you got to kind of line them up.
So I understood, but it made for a bad Everything
kind of fell out for your boy this week. Yeah,
I'm out here just taking bullets. Happens.

Speaker 2 (02:06:57):
So you guys have you guys have an annual little
trip we go every year. We have a you know,
one of my buddies is the linebackers coach for the Giants.
He's getting married this year in Miami, so we're taking
a little a little trip to Miami right before the wedding.
Right this I hope it doesn't end up like you know, hangover.
I hope we all make it to the wedding on time. Yeah,
but it should be a fun trip. Are you the
glue that holds the group chat?

Speaker 3 (02:07:16):
Not the glue I mean, are you?

Speaker 1 (02:07:17):
I'm a piece of the puzzle.

Speaker 3 (02:07:19):
Yeh Sup.

Speaker 1 (02:07:19):
There's this committee that exists that's kind of this, but
nobody really knows.

Speaker 6 (02:07:23):
You guy, you got a committee within the group.

Speaker 3 (02:07:25):
This is this is deep. Yeah, this is big. So
guys played different roles in the group chat. Nobody really
knows who the committee is. Okay, you guys say, yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:07:33):
Nobody really knows who the committee is. It just but
they make a lot of decisions and and things get done.

Speaker 6 (02:07:38):
What's been the best trip that you guys have been on?

Speaker 2 (02:07:40):
Man, We've done Tahoe. Tahoe is a lot of fun.
We've we've done deep sea fishing a couple of times. Uh,
you know, there's been there's been some good trips and
it's gotten better. Is my job's gotten better? The trips
we've gotten a little bit better too.

Speaker 3 (02:07:50):
So yeah, I bet everybody's getting a little bit better. Budget. Hey,
let's do it up a little bit more this time,
not a lot like where you guys, are you back
in the GA days where you're all cramming in a hotel?
We got it. We normally can find a good spot
to stay in. Dude. It would be like we go
to got an invite if you're interested, Oh, no, ship,
we'll talk. That'd be great.

Speaker 1 (02:08:07):
Okay, we're gonna say no cameras.

Speaker 6 (02:08:09):
That's fine, Yeah, I'll do it.

Speaker 2 (02:08:10):
Trust that these guys would get excited if they knew
that you could come.

Speaker 3 (02:08:14):
You know, okay, this trip all right? When are we
able to say okay, okay, okay, we'll talk. We'll talk,
we'll talk off camera. I'll mess with that. I appreciate that.
What now I kind of now, I kind of remember
instilling all your stuff with the guys, right like again
going back, and I'm using mcveighs as another example, because
again I would I'll just always pick his brain about
coaching and everything else. And he was like, comp. You know,

(02:08:37):
he came to me before practice, uh, before training camp
practice one day and he was like, comp, the biggest
thing that you will have that you have that you
have a problem with that all coaches do, especially if
you're a ball guy like you play. You do all
the stuff. Preparation won't be an issue. All these things
won't be an issue. What will be an issue is
trying to teach people to think the same way that
you're thinking. Has that Has there been a learning curve

(02:08:59):
with that? And coming up across guys at back bro
you have so much fucking talent, right if you just listen,
if you just trust the processes. Was that a learning
curve for you getting in the coaching coaching guys the
way you were at William Jewel being a linebacker, being
just hungry about the game. Yeah, I think you know.

Speaker 2 (02:09:14):
The piece I always say is if I could go
back and do it all over again, I would have
got a psychology degree because it's really about figuring out
how do you get that guy to believe in what
you're trying to teach him or try to grow And
it could be the same with a coach.

Speaker 3 (02:09:24):
The other piece of just having an onboarding.

Speaker 2 (02:09:26):
Process when somebody shows up like nobody knows how you
want it done unless you explain it to them, and
that takes time, right, you got you got to sit
there and try to create and make coaches talk through
why they're making this call in.

Speaker 1 (02:09:36):
This situation right, and what your philosophy is.

Speaker 2 (02:09:38):
And we talk about playing the game before we play
the game as much as possible, we do a coaches
meeting where we put on a TV copy.

Speaker 3 (02:09:44):
I'm like, all right, what are we calling here?

Speaker 2 (02:09:46):
What's the situation? What are we thinking about? With timeouts?
And try to play the game out with our offensive
coordinator defense? Whare you know Bonnicks would sit in that
meeting with us last year. But you try to get
everybody on the same page. And you know that's probably
where most valuable, the most valuable time for you is
how quickly can you get everybody in your organization believe
in the same way, seeing it the same way you
see it, or challenging yourself to see it differently.

Speaker 3 (02:10:07):
Yeah, And we spend a lot of time on that.
Bo Nick's at the Heisman ceremony, you talked about him
babysitting your kids.

Speaker 4 (02:10:13):
Yeah, was that a.

Speaker 3 (02:10:14):
Pr move or is he actually a baby talk? That
story is real.

Speaker 2 (02:10:17):
I literally came home one day and Bow's there, I
mean Bow and his wife, is he? And really Casey
Rodgers and his wife Maya. They would come over to
our place quite a bit, and every once in a
while Sofia would put them in charge of watching the
boys and she'd have a girl's night out. So unbelievable kid,
unbelievable family. I'm really excited to see what he does next.

Speaker 3 (02:10:36):
Are there players that you watch have success, whether in
the NFL or that you look back on, that you
have a a un entertaining recruiting story about.

Speaker 2 (02:10:47):
Okay, good question, I'm trying to think entertaining recruit I mean,
we've all been in the situations where you go do
a home visit and you eat one meal and you're full,
and then you got to go to the next home
visit and you do another meal.

Speaker 3 (02:10:57):
I mean, they can wear you out because you're gonna
eat it when you walk in the door.

Speaker 2 (02:11:01):
If mom's you gotta eat it, you gotta eat it,
and you gotta pretend you love it even if you don't.

Speaker 1 (02:11:07):
But but interesting recruiting stories.

Speaker 2 (02:11:09):
I mean somebody that that you guys never probably would
have heard of it, but he's actually playing.

Speaker 3 (02:11:13):
Right now in the league.

Speaker 2 (02:11:14):
Names JJ Russell. You know, I remember going when I'm
at Memphis, I'm going to recruit JJ. And I swing
by the bank first because mom works at the bank.
I drop a note in the bank teller and it
shoots up the Taylor pol comes to his go play
pool with his dad, right, you know, at the local
pool spot and we're playing pool, and then go over
to the school, hang out with JJ at the school
for a little bit.

Speaker 1 (02:11:34):
After school, we get on the game. We're playing Madden
against each other.

Speaker 2 (02:11:37):
The last game we played for a commitment, right, get
his get his commitment, commitment for a commitment. It's once
I've built some confidence that Okay, I can handle this guy,
play for commitment. And that that night finished off with
Coach Norvell pulling up this big Memphis bus outside of
his house and we did the home visit.

Speaker 3 (02:11:53):
Meeting right there in front of his house.

Speaker 2 (02:11:55):
So it was a h yeah, it was That's a
kind of a fun story where I felt like there's.

Speaker 3 (02:11:59):
No anybody did more than we did, right, right, right, right?
Hey did you prep now? Were you preparing ahead of time? Like, Okay,
I'm gonna have to play this kid in the game.
And I got a call on.

Speaker 2 (02:12:08):
I didn't know that, and I wouldn't have I wouldn't
have said, hey, this one's for a commitment unless I
felt good about where we were at, because I haven't
played a lot of games since then. During COVID, I
got the sticks out a little bit, you know, as
I tell my wife, Hey, I'm going to work, I
go downstairs and play what's it, call of duty?

Speaker 3 (02:12:21):
Yeah, I suck it.

Speaker 6 (02:12:23):
They're playing war Zone with the boys.

Speaker 3 (02:12:24):
Honey, shut up, I'm doing my job.

Speaker 2 (02:12:28):
Take the headset off. Yeah, she figured that out pretty quick. So, uh, yeah,
I haven't played. I haven't been on the game for
a long time.

Speaker 3 (02:12:34):
But you try to.

Speaker 2 (02:12:34):
You're always trying to find something that's going to separate
you from every other coach they're talking to about. Hey,
this is what a three technique looks like. I mean,
there's a little bit more to that in the relationship.

Speaker 3 (02:12:43):
How how was it like getting to learn the whole
recruiting aspect of college ball, Like you, I would assume
you being a lower guy first, and then you kind
of get an area. You might go into some dicey situations,
some dice year. He's like, Okay, I gotta kind of
I gotta get crafty here. Do you have any of those?

Speaker 2 (02:12:57):
Oh, I've been you know, I've been in Baltimore where
I was like, okay, I got a change. I'm wearing
these cool Oregon shoes didn't be used to be something
that was part of my game. But I've pulled up
the place where I'm like, all right, I got to
put on my other set of shoes here. You've been
into a spot where I got to get padded down
to go in. You know that didn't really necessarily make
me nervous. Yeah, getting padded down to go in. But
what made me nervous about the amount of people that
are staying outside that.

Speaker 3 (02:13:16):
Weren't going in.

Speaker 2 (02:13:17):
You know, I'm like, hey, well you walking me to
my calls, like you try to be uncomfortable here, but yeah,
you you find yourself in a lot of unsavory situations
sometimes when you're chasing the right guys.

Speaker 3 (02:13:26):
Dude, I bet this question came from came from JP.
Looking back, if you were what coach would you want
to play for outside of yourself? Now that you've experienced
all the coaching trees that you have, who is a
coach that you want to play for? Let's say both
position and even coordinator. Obviously I had coach, you'd probably

(02:13:46):
you know, you're probably gonna say all of them. There's benefits.

Speaker 2 (02:13:48):
No, No, I mean I think I could you know,
speak to each one of them because they're all different,
but but ultimately, like position coaches, we got some great
coaches on our staff here, like Tash Lapoy is one
of the best coach. I was actually a GA at Alabama.
Tasha was a position coach in Alabama before he became
the decordinator. And you know, the amount of time and
effort he puts in, the details he puts in I
think really separate him as a coach. You know Kirby

(02:14:09):
and and Mike or two guys that really stood out
to me his head coaches. You know, Kirby I'll probably
be drawn to a little bit more because he's on
the defensive side of the ball. But the passion and
energy that he coaches with, you know, the intelligence, how
much I felt like I learned in my time working
for Coach Smart, you know, was certainly really appealing and
you just always knew you were gonna get his best
every single day.

Speaker 3 (02:14:27):
As a backer. What decordinator would you wanna would you
want to play for? That's a great question.

Speaker 2 (02:14:33):
You know Mel Tucker, you know, and uh I know, uh,
you know, Mel was a guy that you always felt
like was in your corner. You know, he did things,
you know, the right way. He always had the players back.
He's that coach that had the players back. He's a
good teacher, good communicator, and uh he was always looking
out for you outside of the field too.

Speaker 3 (02:14:51):
Yeah. Well yeah, and then there's one more. Okay, we
said that, we got that one, all right, this is
our twisted question. Oh but it won't be too twisted.

Speaker 6 (02:15:05):
If you hit a.

Speaker 3 (02:15:05):
Movie made about you, What Hollywood actor would you want to.

Speaker 1 (02:15:10):
Portray you want to versus like, what's most likely?

Speaker 6 (02:15:14):
Right, Let's do both, Let's have fun, We'll do both.

Speaker 1 (02:15:19):
Okay, that's a good question. What's the who's the batman?

Speaker 3 (02:15:25):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (02:15:25):
Christian Baal?

Speaker 2 (02:15:26):
I think that guy just hits it out the park
and like almost every role. Yeah, I'd probably say Christian
Bale would be you know, he's a method actor. I've
seen him get fat, I've seen him get skinny, get
I mean, he just.

Speaker 3 (02:15:35):
Does it all. He's all sell out for the role. Right.

Speaker 2 (02:15:37):
Daniel day lewis another guy I think about like that
that just like goes all in on his roles. But
I probably said like Ben Afflack is somebody that probably
look a little bit closer to I don't know. I mean,
he does a good job too.

Speaker 6 (02:15:48):
Do you guys have anybody minds? For some reason, I
feel like I I think he could.

Speaker 3 (02:15:51):
You could get a Leo Leo get some scruff going,
kind of cut their hair like his leoser. That's a
big bull. Yeah, coach Man, we appreciate it. This has
been awesome. I've enjoyed. I knew I would enjoy this
conversation again, being a Missouri boy, being a linebacker, being
just a young coach in the game. I think it
speaks to a lot of like the cloth you were

(02:16:12):
cut from and knowing the journey that you've been on,
because it is like the longest road travel being a
high school coach and going to coaches clinics and trying
to shake hands, and I would almost I don't even
who knows how many emails you wrote and letters you
sent that was just a fart in the wind and
never got to anybody. But to see you climb the
ranks and being the spots here and now, it's really cool.

Speaker 2 (02:16:32):
I'm certainly lucky I've got I've got some great luck
and maybe created some of it, but been around great people.
Best thing I've had I've been around winning organizations, and
that's that's the that's the key to moving forward.

Speaker 1 (02:16:43):
So I really appreciate it's been fun.

Speaker 3 (02:16:44):
Man. Yes for the boys, Oh I got As a
matter of fact, I got one more. How long did
it take you to craft the speech before Colorado?

Speaker 9 (02:16:52):
The Cinderella story is over, man, Right, they're fighting for clicks,
we're fighting for wins.

Speaker 8 (02:16:58):
There's a difference, right, there's a difference.

Speaker 5 (02:17:00):
Right.

Speaker 6 (02:17:01):
This game ain't gonna be playing in Hollywood.

Speaker 9 (02:17:02):
It's gonna be played on the crass, or it's gonna
be played on the crass.

Speaker 3 (02:17:05):
It really not.

Speaker 2 (02:17:07):
That was not off the top, No, No, certain I
write down my thoughts, but I really do it kind
of the hour leading up to that, that meaning, and
really it's built off of a lot of the things
we've already talked, you know, throughout the week. So we
have messaging every single week trying to say what's gonna
be the difference in the team that we're gonna play,
you know, and that one happened to you know, be
public consumption.

Speaker 3 (02:17:27):
But it didn't play out the.

Speaker 2 (02:17:29):
Way I thought it wouldn't necessarily play out when it
came to that, you know, So every week we have
a message right that we try to you know, piece
together for the team that we're playing. What's gonna be
the theme, what are gonna be the differences in us
and the opponent, what's gonna lead to wins and losses?
And those same things you hear in that speech were
things that we had talked about kind of throughout the week.

Speaker 3 (02:17:45):
What makes us different than this team?

Speaker 2 (02:17:46):
How are we going to handle your pregame antics, how
are we going to handle some of the things they're
gonna show up? So you know, it's a fun part
of the job, but that that has very little to
do with what the success of the game looks like.

Speaker 6 (02:17:55):
Yeah, but well executed, we usually yeah, clicks, wins.

Speaker 3 (02:17:58):
Oh that said, that's up bar right there, Hollywood the
Hollywood grass. Oh man, you crushed it, Bro, But all
the same, I don't want to get get up the
way yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, the game matters way more.
But anyway, Hey, we appreciate it, man, this has been
awesome for the boys. Bro.

Speaker 6 (02:18:14):
Absolutely

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