December 5, 2024 • 35 mins
On this episode of Butternomics, Brandon Butler chops it up with Rashan Ali, the ultimate Atlanta homegirl and multimedia trailblazer. From breaking into radio to thriving in TV, voiceover, and beyond, Rashan shares how she built her legacy by staying true to herself and her city. Hear how she learned the game, stayed moving, and became one of Atlanta’s most beloved voices.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The blessing is in the movement. You just gotta keep moving.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
When you move, you can only be met with that momentum. Yeah,
for you know when it's when it's that thing that
you want. The blessing for me has been in the movement.
Just keep moving, It doesn't matter the pace. See, this
world makes us think we have to go so fast
with everything. It's literally a marathon, not a sprint. And
(00:25):
I know that's very cliche, but I have seen that
it's still it's really the long game.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
He everybody, Welcome to another episode of butter Nomics. I'm
your host, Brandon Butler, founder and CEO of Butter at
L And today, Yeah, we got an atl legend. We
got an east Side legend building.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
You get right, both both of them?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Both of them, Yeah, both of the one. The only
miss for Shan, I leave ra Sean. How you doing today?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I'm doing well? How about you?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
That was any better? I'd be you.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
That's good, said everybody.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
You'd like to mix that in because if I was
both be better, I'd be y'all. How you feel?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I'm good man, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Good to be here with you, love to see you
just how much you've grown your brand, and obviously at
Atlanta loves you and has reported you and we see
the fruits of your labor.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
So I'm glad to be here with you.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Do you remember that last time we got an interview
when you came to that studio and he was like,
what the hell is this?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
No? I did not, you know, I'm just you know
how I am. I'm a low key out you know.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I just liked you, and I was like, you know what,
I'm gonna do it, and here we are.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
And here we are.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah, yeah, that was a how many years ago was that?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
That was like twenty sixteen. I thought, oh wow, I
just graduated from a grad school and you know, I
built that whole studio out. And I came in there
one day and I had an eviction notice because they
sold the building without telling me. Oh wow, and the
bulldoz that whole building. I was mad because I had
signed my lease, I had invested all in that space,
(01:52):
I had built it all out, and it was like
I didn't know this. It was like a clause in
the lease that basically said they could sell the building
without telling you.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
And I came in they were like, yeah, you got
to move that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Man, it is, But that's how it works.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
You got an old game out it is you got
to read it between the lives and read the fine friends.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
You know what I'm saying. That's less than number one.
Y'all read the full least read the contract. That's right,
But you've read a lot of contracts over time, right.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Well, I, or at least hire somebody to do it.
I can't. That's not my wheelhouse. That's not my.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Calling now now I know, but again everybody out here
doesn't know. So I would just want to go back
for a second.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Now.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
You got started in radio wedd in two thousand and two.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yes, oh too, on Hot one of seven nine.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
What was that like back in the day? What was
two thousand and two?
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Like, Well, I had just gotten engaged to be married.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I'm still with that guy twenty two years later, two children,
all the things.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
But it was for me.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
It was one of those opportunities that I'm like, well,
I've done so much work up until this point that
it kind of made sense. So graduated from fam, you
wanted to go to film school. My mom said no,
And to figure all that out, and so fast forward
to an opportunity that came with radio when you know
(03:06):
the og. Ryan Cameron was talking about how he was
going to audition someone for a new co hosting position,
and I was just like, well, God, I've done everything,
so let me just try this too, because I was
trying to figure out what my life was was, having
all these different jobs, a degree in journalism, you know,
didn't wasn't able to go to film school, and.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
So just trying to figure out life.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
It sounds like most of the creatives that we know,
So just trying to figure it out. And literally one
competition American Idol style to be on Ryan Cameron's morning show.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
And it worked out for me. You know.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
It was great that I did college radio, and of
course I had a degree, but you know, it was
one of those things that the city really wrapped their
arms around.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
The whole competition.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
It was like ten of us, and then it went
to five, and then it went to two of us,
Me and my my tight girl CJ, who joined the show.
But we were able to really grow from that. You know,
even when he left and went back to another station.
You know, I became the host of the of the
morning show, and so you know, the the not the experiment,
(04:12):
but yeah, the experiment that turned out pretty dang good.
Yeah for him, and then you know, to see, you know,
kind of where I took my career.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
And you know, it's funny about that whole story, but
there's an alternate universe in which I feel like, I
don't know if i'd be on your level right now,
but like I actually had an opportunity. So I don't
know if I ever told you this story before, but
I think it was like two thousand and four. I
had graduated college and Ryan was looking for an intern.
And I remember when I was listened to the radio station.
(04:40):
Every day I listened to radio going to work. You know,
I was like, now I wanted to work in radio.
I want to do all this stuff. And so one
day I'm driving to work and he says, I'm looking
for an intern. And I remember they had hired you all,
you know, they had knowing that stuff going on. He said,
if you want to be my intern, mailed me a
copy of your resume, not email, he said, mail in facts,
if I remember, And so I was like, man, I
(05:02):
want to get this internship, but there's no way that
he's going to see my my resumes. I said, what
do I do? So I went and I made ninety
seven copies of my resume for nine seven point five.
I think I might have been I think I might
have cut one in half, just you know, for fun.
I got ninety seven envelopes in ninety seven stamps, and
I mailed them all at the exact same time. And
(05:22):
about three or four days later, Ryan called me live
on air and was like, Brandon, stop emailing me your resume.
You got the job.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
So the crazy part is, I remember he was like,
you know, come up here on I remember it's like,
you know, Wednesday or something like that. So I get
ready that first day. It's pouring down rain, like it's raining,
and it's like he says, be up here at like
four am, and it's pouring down rain. And I got
my little raggedy Hondo cord. I was staying at my parents'
house Stills. I just graduated, and I was like driving
(05:51):
downtown trying not to die. It was in the Assistant
Trust Bank building. Yeah, And I get up there at
four o'clock and ain't none of y'all show up until five.
I was like, what's going on? Low story short. I
ended up interned up there for maybe about a month,
but you know, I didn't really fully understand the process
you had to go through, you know what I mean,
and like get the little little hazing stuff like that.
(06:13):
And I was like, man, forget this. Man, I'm going
back to my job and I and I quit.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
And it was funny. I had lunch with Ryan about
a month ago when I was telling them about this
story because he was like, I don't remember. He's like,
I kind of remember it, but I don't really remember.
I said, you know, Ryan, you changed my life because
you called me and you said, man, I thought you
really wanted this, and I can't believe you quit. And
I said, since that moment, like I never really quit anything.
Oh wow, you know, And that's why it made me
so focused on things. But I always say to myself too,
(06:39):
I'm like, man, I was gonna start like right after
Ashan and all them starting, and so I'm just I
was like, man, I wonder how different things could have
been if I'd have stuck with that, because I saw
the stuff that you built and CJ built, Nikeenny and all,
you know, growing up, and I was like, man, I
could have I was about a year behind, but you're doing.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
But it's just I hear you. It's just a different
journey and that wasn't supposed to be yours. But I
get it. I get it that. You know, there's so
many lessons that you that you learned along that.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
The Oh yeah, I up my head did on that one.
I think one thing that really kind of stood out
for me was just to give when Ryan hit me up,
because I really again looked at up up to him
as a you know, radio personality is somewhere. I wanted
to kind of be like for him to call me
and be like, man, I'm disappointed. I can't believe you quit.
It just kind of puts something in me. It's like,
I'm never gonna quit something like that.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Wow. Wow.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
You know, did you learn any lessons like that working
with Ryan?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Oh, let me tell you chill.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Yeah, of course. I mean I learned so much.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
The first time I went to a fine dining restaurant,
it was Ruth Chris when it was linux right in
that area. And you know, I grew up middle class,
you know, but we didn't go to find dining restaurants.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
It was like, you know, the Red Loves on calib Road.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
You know, if we went somewhere, you know, you know,
everything was home cooked, so he along with left eye
when I was left that. So the first time I
really went to like find dining restaurants and we were
about to walk and he was like, act like you've
been here, and I just have never forgotten like certain
things like that, And like the first till I went
to Turks and k coats, Ryan took the whole morning
(08:09):
show like really showing a different type of life because
you know, he always says yacht dreams, but like he
has really shown me, especially at that young age I
was in, you know, my twenties, just had a dream
bigger on what you can and what you can have.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
But also I saw him work very hard. Yeah, and
I learned.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
That you never really get too big to do the
little things. And even the way that I interview is
a god given gift. But I know for a fact
that I'm good because I got to watch him do it.
And no matter how good or you know, familiar he
was with an artist or anybody that came to our show,
he always wrote down like little things so he would
(08:54):
never forget, like even if it's just a little dot,
you know, and say, Brandon, but are not so, you know,
just something like that to make sure that he got
the things that he wanted out of the interview. And
he's a master at getting people to open up and
speak about things that their publicist or someone says they're
not going to speak about. So the reason that I
know that I can do that very well, I could
(09:15):
talk to anybody and get what I want, even if
it's not what someone may have been expecting them to say.
But you can get someone to allude to anything you
have to make them feel comfortable. It's not that you're
using the subject, it's that you are allowing the conversation
to be just that a conversation. So I learned that
by watching him so so many different I could go
(09:36):
on and on about our time together.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
It really was very short in the beginning.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
It was probably like maybe three four years, and then
he left and we had the eighteen morning show, and
then I went back over there with him if he
were on three. But I know that my skills at
interviewing were honed because of him.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Yeah, you have to work around some of the best
people and just see. Yeah, I think there's nothing better
than experience. I mean look, I talk to people all
the time on this podcast, and I'm not gonna lie.
I go back and look at some of the stuff
y'all have done and say, how can I be a
better interviewer? How can I ask better questions? You know,
that's a lot of work that I do. So so
you know, I go back and I look at y'all stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah, yeah, man, I say, the key, the key to
a great interview is literally listening. Listening because so many
people especially you know, you have a lot of people
in this podcast world who just really you know, to
each his own, you know what I mean. But like
you have a somebody will say, yeah, and then that
was the weekend that you know, everything just went everything
(10:36):
just went crazy, And you have somebody that just won't
even tap into what went crazy.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
It's like, tell me exactly what went crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
You're so focused on what the next question is by
not listening that you miss out on so much of
what happened when that person said everything just went crazy.
So listening and actually just having a conversation is what
it's all about. But you know, so good. I'm glad
that you're continuing to be great and do your best
at this and it shows, and it shows.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I mean again, you've been in the podcast space too.
I know you've been doing some stuff with the Cool
Sorel podcast. Man, what's so hard about the podcast space?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I mean, yeah, money, you know, I mean, I mean
I was probably one of the people, especially a black female,
kind of like I started early enough for where it
was like a podcast where a lot of black folks
on my podcast. So I started my podcast in twenty
sixteen right after I think, yeah, and then you know,
I changed it up and I kept it going and
changed it up and I started doing the video like
(11:34):
full on.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Production, like it was like it looked great.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
And I think because it looks so great, people probably
thought I didn't need any help. Now I was like, no,
that was all me. So I've had a couple of
nice viral moments. But you know, when you have a
product like what we have, like you have to get
somebody that's working on the back end, especially if you
don't have a partner, you know, a station or a
network that you're working with. People have to do all
of that thing. So I didn't have that. So right
(11:59):
now that my podcast is just I'm figuring out what
I'm gonna do with that and the brand, the Coulsord brands.
I've got merchandise, I got, you know, necklaces and things
like that. But you know, it's got to make sense.
It's got to make sense to me, and at this
juncture in my life, it's just it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Yeah, the podcast game is tough. I mean I've started
to stop a few different ones, and you know, luckily
I was able to kind of get this partnership at
our Heart to kind of help scale this thing out.
But yeah, I think again, there's so many different voices
out here, there's so many different ways to kind of monetize,
and it's like, you see these other people doing It's like, man,
how are they doing it. It's like it's like, you know,
I'm not throwing any shade everybody. It's like you watch
Drink Champs. It's like, what are they doing that I'm
(12:48):
not doing?
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Right?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
You know, what are these other podcasts doing that I'm
not doing? And I think one of the things I've
kind of learned is it's about, you know, finding ways
to kind of diversify. Like, you know, at the end
of the day, it's really hard to just sell ads
and us you know, nobody wants to sit here and
just do ad reads on podcasts and stuff like that, right,
so it's like, how do you find that audience, you know,
build that connection with them, but then figure out what
they want and kind of give it to them. That's
(13:10):
what I've seen it works, and so that's why even
when I'm kind of trying to do with button nomics, right,
it's like, all right, let's let's build this up, but
let's find this audience. But the thing I kind of
constantly ask myself is what're the kinds of products and
services that I could put it from this audience myself,
you know, and kind of and kind of give them.
And I don't know, I don't I'm not like big
on the coaching and all that kind of stuff. Personally.
I think there's a lot of people to do that.
(13:30):
But I really try to think about tangible products. I
think a lot of times it's black folks, you know,
especially we do a lot of service based businesses. I'm like, man,
if I could just give me a damn T shirt
or just something that just comes in like a small,
medium or large, just be besides, do you want it?
Because I don't want to talk to everybody, right, hilarious.
You know, it's all this crazy stuff out here. But
you know, besides that, you were also with the first
(13:53):
black female sports reporter in Atlanta, right for Sports Acred.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
No, I don't know, not not the first, Definitely not
the first. I was one of just a few morning
show hosts that were female in the country.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, not sideline report or anything like that. I did
that for the Atlanta Hawks.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I was the inter arena sideline reporter for a few
seasons right before.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Al Duncan came in, and then she did her thing.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
We split it for a while and then I was like, yeah,
I just had a you know, more had children and
so that kind of changed, like my nighttime situation, but
that catapults it into other opportunities with CNN headline News,
sports sideline reporting for CBS Sports Network for college football
and college basketball. Like I've had a very, very diversified,
(14:43):
vast career and I've been truly blessed to have so
many different beautiful experiences under the arc of being a
multi media personality, which I consider myself to be.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
And I'm just open. I'm open. I'm continuing to be
open to whatever source has a line for me.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Yeah, yeah, you know you've done you know, radio, TV,
voiceover work, Yeah, movies, Like what do you what do
you enjoy doing? The moment?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
All of it? All of them? You know?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
You know people ask me that all the time, and
I'm like, I don't really because I am seen an
event last night and it was fantastic. And I love
making people laugh and I love having presents on camera.
I love the way the microphone sounds when it's a
very you know, beautiful microphone, and this like audio is.
I love good audio, Like I love dressing up and
doing that, but I also love going into character on
(15:37):
my show on at Over in Tylerberry Studios and doing that,
and then I'll go into the booth and do a
commercial for home Depot and do you know, voiceover work.
So just dreaming bigger and all of those aspects. I
want to get into doing some voice acting. So I
want to do some character work. I want to do
a Pixar movie. I want to voice voice voice and commercials, commercials,
(15:58):
commercial because I just I love that space.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I love that space.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
But I just I don't I'm open to everything and
attached to nothing.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
That's how I'm trying to live my life.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Okay, law detachment, you know, just the opportunities kind of
come in.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yes and let them, but just be just be in
being being right with who I am. I think everything
falls accordingly when you are right within who you are.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
I can see you voicing like a Pixar Charecter.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Absolutely, I want to do that. I'm going to do that.
I'm britting that down like.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Inside out three or something like that. Like this, something
needs to happen to just.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Give me an opportunity, please anyone.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Yeah, how do you train for stuff like that? Like
did you go to like coaching for like voice worce coach?
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Have a voice coach who's also she kind of doubles
as my acting coach. Full circle moment with her when
twenty something years ago, when she first moved to Atlanta
from New York, she was an amazing voice over talent
in New York. I think her husband got an opportunity
down here and she was used to, you know, making
cold calls because back then, you're going to make a
cold call to an agency and they'll you know, yeah,
(17:06):
you can come in for this audition.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Atlanta was different.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
We're a little you know, obviously, especially back then, lots slower,
and so people were like, you can't do that.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
You can't just cold call and come in here, right.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
So I was at La Face Records in the music
video department, one of my jobs before a radio.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
And we were doing a commercial for Donelle Jones.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
We were because back then you wouldn't get you hide
the voiceover talent and then you go through the agency
take them to the studio. And I was kind of
produced that I'm twenty two years old, like doing all
this was crazy.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
So long story short, she just.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Told me once we got back together, she was like,
I never told you, but I went to an agent
and the agent said, if you booked this Face Records commercial,
I will be your agent. I was the one that
chose my now coach for that commercial. Okay, yes, so
many years ago, and she said, I never got a
(17:58):
chance to thank you because that was my entryway into
the voice of the world here in Atlanta. So now
I get to pay it forward by being your coach.
And now I have encouraged her her Her businesses is
growing and more people are, you know, going to her.
She's so beautiful and she's a talent herself and a singer, like,
so she's just really great and we work on characters,
(18:20):
work on accents, we work gone obviously seeing work, and
she helps me coach. She coaches me through all of
my stuff for Tyler Perry too as well. So I
love her in my life and I think that all
of us need some type of coach to lead us.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I'm going to just keep her that I'm a leader
who likes to be led, you know.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Speaking of coaching, I always think about in sports, they
kind of call the coaching tree. They talk about, you know,
you think like about a Nick Sagan, right, like all
the coaches that have come up under him and they're
now head coaches. And I kind of think about that,
even going back to like Ryan Cameron for a second, right,
like all the people that have opened up, you know,
opportunities because he opened up doors for him. I even
think about it myself, just in kind of the tech
and marketing space. There are a lot of people around
(19:01):
the city of Atlanta that, you know, I gave their
first internship to another Like, who are some people that
are on you know, you talked about your voice and
acting coach, Like, are there other people kind of on
the Rashan a Lee coaching tree that starting.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
So many people that have kind of come up under
my I won't say like a coaching tree or something
like that, but have intern or have been given an
opportunity that I have been kind of like the conduit,
the person that the reason for that opportunity. He and
I used to host an event. He was a DJ
(19:33):
for and I was the on air town not on
air talent, but I was the what do you call
it chow the personality right, Okay, I'm just having all
these brain farts today at Underground.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Okay, Tiva? What Tiva? Who does exactly? Is Atlanta Green?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
He was the promoter and so it would be Jay
One and then it would be DJ Cowboy. But Jay
One wants a set up guy, and he every week
he's like, man, you need to give me an opportunity
one of seven nine please.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I just want to dude, the mix show.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I just wanted to mix show every week you know
when they have like when it was you know, Memorial
Day and things like that. So he kept asking me.
He's like, Le'm go give you my CD. I'm gonna
give you all these things, and so fast forward. Then
he started bringing like the morning show donuts and bangels
from Panello Bread and I was like, man, this guy
is really one. So finally because Emperor Serci, who was
on the show at the time, he was ahead, he
(20:22):
was the national mix show DJ coordinator, finally gave j
one an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
He killed it.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
They called him back again and his whole radio life
started from that opportunity when I told Circe about him
and gave him his CD from there, And now he's
literally at Pandora.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Be High, who does the podcast and over Hot. He
was my intern, he was my intern ATL one seven
and he's killing it.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
He been killing the game through his work long before
all of this became so popular.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
So I'm so very proud of him. I have one
sister who.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Interned for me at Hot one of seven nine, who
just DJ the Black Excellence event at the White House.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yes, she's from.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Chicago, so like so many people, and I always say,
you're only as good as how great your interns become. Whoever,
whatever you do, if you're touched with somebody's life, if
you're making a difference. Oh and my old intern at
Hot now does all of these beautiful decorative cakes and
she did one for Usher the other day, like they
rolled it out on a you know, at the concert
(21:22):
and she has brick and mortar, like two brick and
mortar buildings with her just making.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Cakes and stuff.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I'm just like, I just love to see it so
that I wouldn't say that's my coaching tree. But like
those people, I've touched those people in some type of way.
And those are just four people or three people whoever
I mentioned, But like I just I just I love
the fact that I'm able to do that, and I
think that's what we're here for.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Like how you giving back? How are you?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
And giving back doesn't look the same for everybody. And
so I know that was a long story. I wanted
to make sure that I got that. And he has
since you know, been interviewed and always shows me love
for that opportunity. You know.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
It's funny with with j One. So I saw him,
I think last year at the Falcons game, and like,
you know, we kind of bumped into each other a
few times. It's like, you know, you know it, just
like I think I know that guy, but you're not sure.
One day I was looking at and I said, and
I ain't gonna say his real name, But I said, man,
we went the Moorhouse together, right, And I remember, I said,
you used to have this little raggedy actor Integra, and
(22:23):
we would get in your car on Fridays we would
all go to the store. He was like, oh yeah,
we all we all say the same door.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
We would literally like get rides and we would all
hang out, you know, and then I leaving and going
to another school. But like I was like, bro, even
like that. It's just funny how Atlanta's just so connected.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
That's why I say out here, like you gotta do
good work, you know what I mean, because you never
know who you're gonna bump into, No.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
You never know. That's my thing.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Be good to people, man, be good, be kind, because
it comes back to you tenfold. And that's that's how
I have operated. That's how I lived my life. That's
how it was raised. Just to be good. You ain't
gonna hear nothing bad about me in the streets.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Is not just not go here.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Everybody's home, girl.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
I mean, that's what That's how I try to show up.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
But that's just it's a testament to my parents and
also who I've become as a woman and also the
confidence that I have as a woman. Now just you know,
I am who I am. This is it, this is
this is all you go get man.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
You know.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
And uh, I'm really I'm becoming very happy with how
I'm turning out.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Yeah. Well, I mean Atlanta is a big part of
your story. I mean again, especially the east Side. Shout
out to the east Side, you know. And I went
to read and I know, I know, you know y'all
got some so so but we all still love though
the east Side. But but like, how is just being
in Atlanta, you know, shaped how you kind of approach
all the work that you do. Now.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Oh, I mean, I say I get the best of
both words you mentioned, obviously the east Side. I was
born in Atlanta, raised Indicator, so I fit I can
represent both sides. You know, I don't really know anything different,
and I think that is one thing that I would
like to change about my life. You know, it's time,
it's time to get it's time to move on from
from Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
I think I've done a lot here.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Yeah, but I would love to be by coastal or
by continent or something, you know, at one point.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
But this is my foundation.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I think that being true to Atlanta, like really being
true to Atlanta. I can wear that like a badge
of honor, because you know, it's a lot of people
that have come to our city converge upon our city.
You don't find a lot of people who are actually
from here anymore.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
So.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
But I'm telling you, if you meet a woman from Atlanta,
from Atlanta, from Atlanta who lives in Atlanta, from Atlanta, Atlanta,
do they say it right?
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Even whatever it is, Metro Atlanta, whatever.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Folks that were raised here are probably some of the
coolest women you've ever met, absolutely true to Atlanta. Because
you know, an Atlanta girl when you see it, you
you mean, like, oh, she she from She's from here.
From here, We're different, we move different. You'll never meet
a woman like an Atlanta woman, a real one. And
so I stand on that, and I think all of us,
(24:58):
like all my my core people, like my folk, we
all really.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Act to like.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
What you call them, a town girl.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Like that whole song.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
I mean, you know, given take a couple of words, uh,
you know, scenarios, but like there are women like that.
And when that song came out and I was thinking
there was going to be bigger than it was. But
I love that record and it's true true today.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
You know what thing you kind of mentioned, you know,
expanding beyond it. I think about that myself, Like, you know,
one day, I don't know if I'll live here forever.
But the one thing I've always kind of wondered about
is where would I go? Atlanta is such like a
unique place it is. That's one thing I've kind of
struggled with. And you know, if you ever thought about where,
where are some places? You think that you know again,
whether it's I don't want to be by water. I
(25:54):
want to be by some water, But like if you
were to leave Atlanta, where where were some places you
might end up?
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Well, yeah, I definitely want to spot in La. I
just do.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I love LA when I when I go to LA
and I do my self care in La, like I
take solo trips to LA and just and hang out
with my friends out there or not or just I
just like being out there. So I know, eventually I
want to have something. I know it's extremely expensive and
all of that, but I want to be in a
position to have a piece of property out there or
(26:22):
condo or just do a verbal or Airbnb that that's
mine and I still love like.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I love for it, laudadale.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I love the water, but also like speaking, you know, vastly,
I want to maybe go somewhere.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
In Africa, don't you know. I don't know. I'm just
I don't want to limit myself.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
I got some stories about Africa. I'm going to tell
you right now, have you been? Have you been Africa?
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Not?
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Okay, So I'm working on something. We'll talk about that
off of this. I'm working on something, you know, to
potentially take some folks out there. Really, I was in
Cape Town last year. I went out there for buddy
Mine's birthday. I stayed for eight days. I did not
want to leave. Wow, and Cape Town is like the
Buckhead of Africa. I'll just tell you it's it's nice,
but it's not what they like. It's not like Africa
(27:07):
Africa like you might think. Like when I say that,
you know, it's not as diverse. I remember on the
plane out there, I was like, with only black people
on this plane, like behind the Cape Town. I remember asking,
I think we were like me and my three or
four friends. I went out there. I was looking around
like is it just us on this plane only black
people going to Africa. But we found the folks out there.
We had an amazing time. That was so beautiful. But
and I remember even wanting to leave. We we stretched
(27:30):
it out, Like when it was time to go, I
was like, we just want this one more restaurant real quick.
Just tell the driver just to follow us here and
just put all our bags and like we left the
restaurant and got in the car and damn near cried
going to the airport, like I don't want to go home.
I'm telling you that trip. All I kept saying to
my friends was they lied to us. They lied to us,
They lied to us, and that was only a small
(27:51):
piece of it. So I'm telling you right now, one
hundred percent, we need to go see Africa.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
It is. It has everything that you need, everything you want,
and it's nothing like people think it is. Again, I'm
talking to a friend of mine out in Ghana right
now about maybe doing something out there next year, taking
some folks out there. It is life changing. That's what
I hear in every way, shape or form.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Yeah, and I did my DNA too, so I'm from
West Africa, Guinea South, so I've done that and I
traced back to the Fulani tribes. I looked up the
Fulani tribe. I'm like, oh my god, these women we
look alike literally, you know, high cheek bones, like like
skin tone like everything.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I'm like, these my people, man. I want to meet
my people. I want to see if I meet.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
My people, see if i'd some cousins or something like that.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
I want to meet a Fuilani woman.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
And it's funny because every time I'm down, like in
the Caribbean or d everybody thinks I'm Haitian. I didn't
mine too. I'm from like Molly, you know what I'm saying, Okay,
kind of like Western Africa a little bit too, so
you know, got a little Nigerian in me.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Nice, you know.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
I asked my parents.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
I was like that.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
I was like, I feel like I owt me some
money or something like that, like meet the whole thing
to come around.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I love it. I love it. I'm just not going
I'm just not.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
I don't want to cap myself on anything like and
want to put a cap on anything. No.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
I mean, look, when you go out there, you just
realize you're like if this is just one part of
this place, right, there's so much more of Africa to see.
Like again going out there, for me, I was like,
as much as I want to go see you know,
Rome and Italy and some of these other places I've
been to China, been to some other I was like,
I just want to explore more of this continent, Like
I want to see everything this place has to offer,
(29:22):
because this is one of the most amazing things and
places I've ever been. Right so, I'm telling you right now,
like the.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
First place of humanity, We're not going to get into that.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
I'm not getting that right now. That'll be a different
that'll be a different episode of the podcast, right right,
right right now. One thing you always do to you
always again and talk about, you know, it's important to
follow your own path. But you know, just for the
folks that are out there getting started, you know, sometimes
it's hard to follow your path and you can't kind
of see the next step. Just what have you learned
about kind of stepping out on faith and kind of
(29:49):
pursuing your dreams and just knowing things are going to
work out.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
The blessing is in the movement.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
You just got to keep moving even if it doesn't
feel like you know who whatever you serve will let
you know like it's something that's not right.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
But I feel like even when I don't know, because
I don't know a.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Lot, I still move, meaning I'll book a gig, or
i'll do you know, I'll i'll get a roll, or
I'll keep moving on, I'll keep working on different things.
And I feel like when you move, you can only
be met with that momentum. Yeah, for you know, when
when it's that thing that you want, unless you absolutely
(30:27):
need to stand still, that's your season to stand still.
I get that too, But I have learned and that's
what I say constantly when I'm being interviewed or when
people ask me a question like this or similar. The
blessing for me has been in the movement. Just keep moving.
It doesn't matter the pace. See, this world makes us
think we have to go so fast with everything pace.
(30:50):
It's literally a marathon, not a sprint. And I know
that's very cliche, but I have seen that it's still
it's really the long game.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Yeah, it's the long game.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Yeah. I think a lot of people, yeah, they played
the short game. Like I read something one time. It
was it was saying, you know, make make decisions for
your future self, you know, make decisions because you know,
in the current situation you'll feel one way, but like
make decisions that your future self is going to appreciate.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
And I have a friend of mine, you know, he
would always say life is more about motion than direction. Yeah,
to your point, right, It's like it's about in the movement.
It's about keeping things going, just kind of putting one
step front the other one and kind of moving in
that right direction. You know. Before we get out of here,
my question for you is, with all the experiences you had,
everything you've learned over your career, if there was a
(31:35):
Rashaan A Lee billboard somewhere in Atlanta. Now, BMF said
the world was BMF, so we're not going to go there.
But if there was a Rashaan I Lee billboard somewhere
in Atlanta, what would be on that billboard?
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Oh my goodness. I think.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
The thing that's coming to my mind right now is
I hope you dance. I don't know if you know
this song by Leamne Womack, I think, but is basically
talk about how people take chances in life. Will you
sit it out or where you dance when you have
the opportunity to do something that's even more grand than
you ever thought that your mind could fathom. And I
(32:12):
hope when you get the opportunity that you don't sit
it out, that you actually dance, And that means grasp.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Life, whatever's supposed.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
To be yours divinely, let it fall into your lap,
and let it meet you where you are, so that
we can all truly live the purpose the life that
we're supposed to have while we're here. And I think
that's what the that's the journey that I'm on right now.
I'm in a space where I'm just trying to literally
be whatever that next version of that is. The person
(32:44):
that I know is in here, she's so big and
not to talk about myself in third person, but like,
of course, we have to work on ourselves to get
to that level.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
But I feel, I feel.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
It coming, and I don't know what it is. I
don't know how big it's going to be. It's going
to be something I can't even fathom. And I want
to dance and I don't want to sit out and
watch it.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
I gotta be a willing participant.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Absolutely, you wouldn't feel it if it wasn't in you right,
It's something I've learned over the years.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Yeah and yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Know again you have every right and that's the whole
purpose is again to be the best, most full version
of yourself. Yeah, and not dimn that for anybody.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
I can't. I can't do that or dimm it for yourself.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Different for yourself.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Right, that's the biggest struggle. It's us.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
I don't care what people think about me. I'm a
reform people pleaser. I'm cool on everybody.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
That's nice. All right, now, I see your friend. I don't.
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
I used to care what people thought. I'm like, oh
my god, the energy I spent on that. But I
have to learn to become a better version of for Shan,
so that could stop care. I really, I literally don't.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
I don't. I don't care.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Well, I'm gonna tell you right now. We love this
version for Sean, and you appreciate you pulling up to
the pod before we got to here. Ra Sean, how
can people find do you support you, follow you all
that good stuff?
Speaker 2 (34:01):
I'm rashaan Alie everywhere I didn't. That's one thing that
I will encourage people to do. If you can keep
your name consistent on all your socials and all that things.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Try to do that. It's easy for people to find you.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Yeah, Rashaan Alie everywhere from Instagram to Facebook to Twitter
x or whatever whatever they call it whatever. Yeah, but
I'm more active on Instagram. It's easy for me.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
I know.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
People are like, he should get on TikTok. I'm like,
I just can't navigate another app. I can't do it now,
I'm not gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
It's a lot. Yeah, there's gonna be more coming.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
So I know, I know. But yeah, Rashan a Lee
everywhere check me out.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Well, Rashaan A Lee, thank you so much for pulling up.
We appreciate you. Keep on doing the amazing work. We
hear the support. Yes, and uh that's the pod you
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The blessing is in the movement. You just gotta keep moving.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
When you move, you can only be met with that momentum. Yeah,
for you know when it's when it's that thing that
you want. The blessing for me has been in the movement.
Just keep moving, It doesn't matter the pace. See, this
world makes us think we have to go so fast
with everything. It's literally a marathon, not a sprint. And
(00:25):
I know that's very cliche, but I have seen that
it's still it's really the long game.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
He everybody, Welcome to another episode of butter Nomics. I'm
your host, Brandon Butler, founder and CEO of Butter at
L And today, Yeah, we got an atl legend. We
got an east Side legend building.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
You get right, both both of them?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Both of them, Yeah, both of the one. The only
miss for Shan, I leave ra Sean. How you doing today?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I'm doing well? How about you?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
That was any better? I'd be you.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
That's good, said everybody.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
You'd like to mix that in because if I was
both be better, I'd be y'all. How you feel?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I'm good man, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Good to be here with you, love to see you
just how much you've grown your brand, and obviously at
Atlanta loves you and has reported you and we see
the fruits of your labor.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
So I'm glad to be here with you.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Do you remember that last time we got an interview
when you came to that studio and he was like,
what the hell is this?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
No? I did not, you know, I'm just you know
how I am. I'm a low key out you know.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I just liked you, and I was like, you know what,
I'm gonna do it, and here we are.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
And here we are.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah, yeah, that was a how many years ago was that?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
That was like twenty sixteen. I thought, oh wow, I
just graduated from a grad school and you know, I
built that whole studio out. And I came in there
one day and I had an eviction notice because they
sold the building without telling me. Oh wow, and the
bulldoz that whole building. I was mad because I had
signed my lease, I had invested all in that space,
(01:52):
I had built it all out, and it was like
I didn't know this. It was like a clause in
the lease that basically said they could sell the building
without telling you.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
And I came in they were like, yeah, you got
to move that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Man, it is, But that's how it works.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
You got an old game out it is you got
to read it between the lives and read the fine friends.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
You know what I'm saying. That's less than number one.
Y'all read the full least read the contract. That's right,
But you've read a lot of contracts over time, right.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Well, I, or at least hire somebody to do it.
I can't. That's not my wheelhouse. That's not my.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Calling now now I know, but again everybody out here
doesn't know. So I would just want to go back
for a second.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Now.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
You got started in radio wedd in two thousand and two.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yes, oh too, on Hot one of seven nine.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
What was that like back in the day? What was
two thousand and two?
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Like, Well, I had just gotten engaged to be married.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I'm still with that guy twenty two years later, two children,
all the things.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
But it was for me.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
It was one of those opportunities that I'm like, well,
I've done so much work up until this point that
it kind of made sense. So graduated from fam, you
wanted to go to film school. My mom said no,
And to figure all that out, and so fast forward
to an opportunity that came with radio when you know
(03:06):
the og. Ryan Cameron was talking about how he was
going to audition someone for a new co hosting position,
and I was just like, well, God, I've done everything,
so let me just try this too, because I was
trying to figure out what my life was was, having
all these different jobs, a degree in journalism, you know,
didn't wasn't able to go to film school, and.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
So just trying to figure out life.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
It sounds like most of the creatives that we know,
So just trying to figure it out. And literally one
competition American Idol style to be on Ryan Cameron's morning show.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
And it worked out for me. You know.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
It was great that I did college radio, and of
course I had a degree, but you know, it was
one of those things that the city really wrapped their
arms around.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
The whole competition.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
It was like ten of us, and then it went
to five, and then it went to two of us,
Me and my my tight girl CJ, who joined the show.
But we were able to really grow from that. You know,
even when he left and went back to another station.
You know, I became the host of the of the
morning show, and so you know, the the not the experiment,
(04:12):
but yeah, the experiment that turned out pretty dang good.
Yeah for him, and then you know, to see, you know,
kind of where I took my career.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
And you know, it's funny about that whole story, but
there's an alternate universe in which I feel like, I
don't know if i'd be on your level right now,
but like I actually had an opportunity. So I don't
know if I ever told you this story before, but
I think it was like two thousand and four. I
had graduated college and Ryan was looking for an intern.
And I remember when I was listened to the radio station.
(04:40):
Every day I listened to radio going to work. You know,
I was like, now I wanted to work in radio.
I want to do all this stuff. And so one
day I'm driving to work and he says, I'm looking
for an intern. And I remember they had hired you all,
you know, they had knowing that stuff going on. He said,
if you want to be my intern, mailed me a
copy of your resume, not email, he said, mail in facts,
if I remember, And so I was like, man, I
(05:02):
want to get this internship, but there's no way that
he's going to see my my resumes. I said, what
do I do? So I went and I made ninety
seven copies of my resume for nine seven point five.
I think I might have been I think I might
have cut one in half, just you know, for fun.
I got ninety seven envelopes in ninety seven stamps, and
I mailed them all at the exact same time. And
(05:22):
about three or four days later, Ryan called me live
on air and was like, Brandon, stop emailing me your resume.
You got the job.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
So the crazy part is, I remember he was like,
you know, come up here on I remember it's like,
you know, Wednesday or something like that. So I get
ready that first day. It's pouring down rain, like it's raining,
and it's like he says, be up here at like
four am, and it's pouring down rain. And I got
my little raggedy Hondo cord. I was staying at my parents'
house Stills. I just graduated, and I was like driving
(05:51):
downtown trying not to die. It was in the Assistant
Trust Bank building. Yeah, And I get up there at
four o'clock and ain't none of y'all show up until five.
I was like, what's going on? Low story short. I
ended up interned up there for maybe about a month,
but you know, I didn't really fully understand the process
you had to go through, you know what I mean,
and like get the little little hazing stuff like that.
(06:13):
And I was like, man, forget this. Man, I'm going
back to my job and I and I quit.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
And it was funny. I had lunch with Ryan about
a month ago when I was telling them about this
story because he was like, I don't remember. He's like,
I kind of remember it, but I don't really remember.
I said, you know, Ryan, you changed my life because
you called me and you said, man, I thought you
really wanted this, and I can't believe you quit. And
I said, since that moment, like I never really quit anything.
Oh wow, you know, And that's why it made me
so focused on things. But I always say to myself too,
(06:39):
I'm like, man, I was gonna start like right after
Ashan and all them starting, and so I'm just I
was like, man, I wonder how different things could have
been if I'd have stuck with that, because I saw
the stuff that you built and CJ built, Nikeenny and all,
you know, growing up, and I was like, man, I
could have I was about a year behind, but you're doing.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
But it's just I hear you. It's just a different
journey and that wasn't supposed to be yours. But I
get it. I get it that. You know, there's so
many lessons that you that you learned along that.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
The Oh yeah, I up my head did on that one.
I think one thing that really kind of stood out
for me was just to give when Ryan hit me up,
because I really again looked at up up to him
as a you know, radio personality is somewhere. I wanted
to kind of be like for him to call me
and be like, man, I'm disappointed. I can't believe you quit.
It just kind of puts something in me. It's like,
I'm never gonna quit something like that.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Wow. Wow.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
You know, did you learn any lessons like that working
with Ryan?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Oh, let me tell you chill.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Yeah, of course. I mean I learned so much.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
The first time I went to a fine dining restaurant,
it was Ruth Chris when it was linux right in
that area. And you know, I grew up middle class,
you know, but we didn't go to find dining restaurants.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
It was like, you know, the Red Loves on calib Road.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
You know, if we went somewhere, you know, you know,
everything was home cooked, so he along with left eye
when I was left that. So the first time I
really went to like find dining restaurants and we were
about to walk and he was like, act like you've
been here, and I just have never forgotten like certain
things like that, And like the first till I went
to Turks and k coats, Ryan took the whole morning
(08:09):
show like really showing a different type of life because
you know, he always says yacht dreams, but like he
has really shown me, especially at that young age I
was in, you know, my twenties, just had a dream
bigger on what you can and what you can have.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
But also I saw him work very hard. Yeah, and
I learned.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
That you never really get too big to do the
little things. And even the way that I interview is
a god given gift. But I know for a fact
that I'm good because I got to watch him do it.
And no matter how good or you know, familiar he
was with an artist or anybody that came to our show,
he always wrote down like little things so he would
(08:54):
never forget, like even if it's just a little dot,
you know, and say, Brandon, but are not so, you know,
just something like that to make sure that he got
the things that he wanted out of the interview. And
he's a master at getting people to open up and
speak about things that their publicist or someone says they're
not going to speak about. So the reason that I
know that I can do that very well, I could
(09:15):
talk to anybody and get what I want, even if
it's not what someone may have been expecting them to say.
But you can get someone to allude to anything you
have to make them feel comfortable. It's not that you're
using the subject, it's that you are allowing the conversation
to be just that a conversation. So I learned that
by watching him so so many different I could go
(09:36):
on and on about our time together.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
It really was very short in the beginning.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
It was probably like maybe three four years, and then
he left and we had the eighteen morning show, and
then I went back over there with him if he
were on three. But I know that my skills at
interviewing were honed because of him.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Yeah, you have to work around some of the best
people and just see. Yeah, I think there's nothing better
than experience. I mean look, I talk to people all
the time on this podcast, and I'm not gonna lie.
I go back and look at some of the stuff
y'all have done and say, how can I be a
better interviewer? How can I ask better questions? You know,
that's a lot of work that I do. So so
you know, I go back and I look at y'all stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah, yeah, man, I say, the key, the key to
a great interview is literally listening. Listening because so many
people especially you know, you have a lot of people
in this podcast world who just really you know, to
each his own, you know what I mean. But like
you have a somebody will say, yeah, and then that
was the weekend that you know, everything just went everything
(10:36):
just went crazy, And you have somebody that just won't
even tap into what went crazy.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
It's like, tell me exactly what went crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
You're so focused on what the next question is by
not listening that you miss out on so much of
what happened when that person said everything just went crazy.
So listening and actually just having a conversation is what
it's all about. But you know, so good. I'm glad
that you're continuing to be great and do your best
at this and it shows, and it shows.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I mean again, you've been in the podcast space too.
I know you've been doing some stuff with the Cool
Sorel podcast. Man, what's so hard about the podcast space?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I mean, yeah, money, you know, I mean, I mean
I was probably one of the people, especially a black female,
kind of like I started early enough for where it
was like a podcast where a lot of black folks
on my podcast. So I started my podcast in twenty
sixteen right after I think, yeah, and then you know,
I changed it up and I kept it going and
changed it up and I started doing the video like
(11:34):
full on.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Production, like it was like it looked great.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
And I think because it looks so great, people probably
thought I didn't need any help. Now I was like, no,
that was all me. So I've had a couple of
nice viral moments. But you know, when you have a
product like what we have, like you have to get
somebody that's working on the back end, especially if you
don't have a partner, you know, a station or a
network that you're working with. People have to do all
of that thing. So I didn't have that. So right
(11:59):
now that my podcast is just I'm figuring out what
I'm gonna do with that and the brand, the Coulsord brands.
I've got merchandise, I got, you know, necklaces and things
like that. But you know, it's got to make sense.
It's got to make sense to me, and at this
juncture in my life, it's just it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Yeah, the podcast game is tough. I mean I've started
to stop a few different ones, and you know, luckily
I was able to kind of get this partnership at
our Heart to kind of help scale this thing out.
But yeah, I think again, there's so many different voices
out here, there's so many different ways to kind of monetize,
and it's like, you see these other people doing It's like, man,
how are they doing it. It's like it's like, you know,
I'm not throwing any shade everybody. It's like you watch
Drink Champs. It's like, what are they doing that I'm
(12:48):
not doing?
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Right?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
You know, what are these other podcasts doing that I'm
not doing? And I think one of the things I've
kind of learned is it's about, you know, finding ways
to kind of diversify. Like, you know, at the end
of the day, it's really hard to just sell ads
and us you know, nobody wants to sit here and
just do ad reads on podcasts and stuff like that, right,
so it's like, how do you find that audience, you know,
build that connection with them, but then figure out what
they want and kind of give it to them. That's
(13:10):
what I've seen it works, and so that's why even
when I'm kind of trying to do with button nomics, right,
it's like, all right, let's let's build this up, but
let's find this audience. But the thing I kind of
constantly ask myself is what're the kinds of products and
services that I could put it from this audience myself,
you know, and kind of and kind of give them.
And I don't know, I don't I'm not like big
on the coaching and all that kind of stuff. Personally.
I think there's a lot of people to do that.
(13:30):
But I really try to think about tangible products. I
think a lot of times it's black folks, you know,
especially we do a lot of service based businesses. I'm like, man,
if I could just give me a damn T shirt
or just something that just comes in like a small,
medium or large, just be besides, do you want it?
Because I don't want to talk to everybody, right, hilarious.
You know, it's all this crazy stuff out here. But
you know, besides that, you were also with the first
(13:53):
black female sports reporter in Atlanta, right for Sports Acred.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
No, I don't know, not not the first, Definitely not
the first. I was one of just a few morning
show hosts that were female in the country.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, not sideline report or anything like that. I did
that for the Atlanta Hawks.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I was the inter arena sideline reporter for a few
seasons right before.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Al Duncan came in, and then she did her thing.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
We split it for a while and then I was like, yeah,
I just had a you know, more had children and
so that kind of changed, like my nighttime situation, but
that catapults it into other opportunities with CNN headline News,
sports sideline reporting for CBS Sports Network for college football
and college basketball. Like I've had a very, very diversified,
(14:43):
vast career and I've been truly blessed to have so
many different beautiful experiences under the arc of being a
multi media personality, which I consider myself to be.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
And I'm just open. I'm open. I'm continuing to be
open to whatever source has a line for me.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Yeah, yeah, you know you've done you know, radio, TV,
voiceover work, Yeah, movies, Like what do you what do
you enjoy doing? The moment?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
All of it? All of them? You know?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
You know people ask me that all the time, and
I'm like, I don't really because I am seen an
event last night and it was fantastic. And I love
making people laugh and I love having presents on camera.
I love the way the microphone sounds when it's a
very you know, beautiful microphone, and this like audio is.
I love good audio, Like I love dressing up and
doing that, but I also love going into character on
(15:37):
my show on at Over in Tylerberry Studios and doing that,
and then I'll go into the booth and do a
commercial for home Depot and do you know, voiceover work.
So just dreaming bigger and all of those aspects. I
want to get into doing some voice acting. So I
want to do some character work. I want to do
a Pixar movie. I want to voice voice voice and commercials, commercials,
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commercial because I just I love that space.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I love that space.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
But I just I don't I'm open to everything and
attached to nothing.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
That's how I'm trying to live my life.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Okay, law detachment, you know, just the opportunities kind of
come in.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yes and let them, but just be just be in
being being right with who I am. I think everything
falls accordingly when you are right within who you are.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
I can see you voicing like a Pixar Charecter.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Absolutely, I want to do that. I'm going to do that.
I'm britting that down like.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Inside out three or something like that. Like this, something
needs to happen to just.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Give me an opportunity, please anyone.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Yeah, how do you train for stuff like that? Like
did you go to like coaching for like voice worce coach?
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Have a voice coach who's also she kind of doubles
as my acting coach. Full circle moment with her when
twenty something years ago, when she first moved to Atlanta
from New York, she was an amazing voice over talent
in New York. I think her husband got an opportunity
down here and she was used to, you know, making
cold calls because back then, you're going to make a
cold call to an agency and they'll you know, yeah,
(17:06):
you can come in for this audition.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Atlanta was different.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
We're a little you know, obviously, especially back then, lots slower,
and so people were like, you can't do that.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
You can't just cold call and come in here, right.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
So I was at La Face Records in the music
video department, one of my jobs before a radio.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
And we were doing a commercial for Donelle Jones.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
We were because back then you wouldn't get you hide
the voiceover talent and then you go through the agency
take them to the studio. And I was kind of
produced that I'm twenty two years old, like doing all
this was crazy.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
So long story short, she just.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Told me once we got back together, she was like,
I never told you, but I went to an agent
and the agent said, if you booked this Face Records commercial,
I will be your agent. I was the one that
chose my now coach for that commercial. Okay, yes, so
many years ago, and she said, I never got a
(17:58):
chance to thank you because that was my entryway into
the voice of the world here in Atlanta. So now
I get to pay it forward by being your coach.
And now I have encouraged her her Her businesses is
growing and more people are, you know, going to her.
She's so beautiful and she's a talent herself and a singer, like,
so she's just really great and we work on characters,
(18:20):
work on accents, we work gone obviously seeing work, and
she helps me coach. She coaches me through all of
my stuff for Tyler Perry too as well. So I
love her in my life and I think that all
of us need some type of coach to lead us.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I'm going to just keep her that I'm a leader
who likes to be led, you know.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Speaking of coaching, I always think about in sports, they
kind of call the coaching tree. They talk about, you know,
you think like about a Nick Sagan, right, like all
the coaches that have come up under him and they're
now head coaches. And I kind of think about that,
even going back to like Ryan Cameron for a second, right,
like all the people that have opened up, you know,
opportunities because he opened up doors for him. I even
think about it myself, just in kind of the tech
and marketing space. There are a lot of people around
(19:01):
the city of Atlanta that, you know, I gave their
first internship to another Like, who are some people that
are on you know, you talked about your voice and
acting coach, Like, are there other people kind of on
the Rashan a Lee coaching tree that starting.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
So many people that have kind of come up under
my I won't say like a coaching tree or something
like that, but have intern or have been given an
opportunity that I have been kind of like the conduit,
the person that the reason for that opportunity. He and
I used to host an event. He was a DJ
(19:33):
for and I was the on air town not on
air talent, but I was the what do you call
it chow the personality right, Okay, I'm just having all
these brain farts today at Underground.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Okay, Tiva? What Tiva? Who does exactly? Is Atlanta Green?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
He was the promoter and so it would be Jay
One and then it would be DJ Cowboy. But Jay
One wants a set up guy, and he every week
he's like, man, you need to give me an opportunity
one of seven nine please.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I just want to dude, the mix show.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I just wanted to mix show every week you know
when they have like when it was you know, Memorial
Day and things like that. So he kept asking me.
He's like, Le'm go give you my CD. I'm gonna
give you all these things, and so fast forward. Then
he started bringing like the morning show donuts and bangels
from Panello Bread and I was like, man, this guy
is really one. So finally because Emperor Serci, who was
on the show at the time, he was ahead, he
(20:22):
was the national mix show DJ coordinator, finally gave j
one an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
He killed it.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
They called him back again and his whole radio life
started from that opportunity when I told Circe about him
and gave him his CD from there, And now he's
literally at Pandora.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Be High, who does the podcast and over Hot. He
was my intern, he was my intern ATL one seven
and he's killing it.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
He been killing the game through his work long before
all of this became so popular.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
So I'm so very proud of him. I have one
sister who.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Interned for me at Hot one of seven nine, who
just DJ the Black Excellence event at the White House.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yes, she's from.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Chicago, so like so many people, and I always say,
you're only as good as how great your interns become. Whoever,
whatever you do, if you're touched with somebody's life, if
you're making a difference. Oh and my old intern at
Hot now does all of these beautiful decorative cakes and
she did one for Usher the other day, like they
rolled it out on a you know, at the concert
(21:22):
and she has brick and mortar, like two brick and
mortar buildings with her just making.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Cakes and stuff.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I'm just like, I just love to see it so
that I wouldn't say that's my coaching tree. But like
those people, I've touched those people in some type of way.
And those are just four people or three people whoever
I mentioned, But like I just I just I love
the fact that I'm able to do that, and I
think that's what we're here for.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Like how you giving back? How are you?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
And giving back doesn't look the same for everybody. And
so I know that was a long story. I wanted
to make sure that I got that. And he has
since you know, been interviewed and always shows me love
for that opportunity. You know.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
It's funny with with j One. So I saw him,
I think last year at the Falcons game, and like,
you know, we kind of bumped into each other a
few times. It's like, you know, you know it, just
like I think I know that guy, but you're not sure.
One day I was looking at and I said, and
I ain't gonna say his real name, But I said, man,
we went the Moorhouse together, right, And I remember, I said,
you used to have this little raggedy actor Integra, and
(22:23):
we would get in your car on Fridays we would
all go to the store. He was like, oh yeah,
we all we all say the same door.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
We would literally like get rides and we would all
hang out, you know, and then I leaving and going
to another school. But like I was like, bro, even
like that. It's just funny how Atlanta's just so connected.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
That's why I say out here, like you gotta do
good work, you know what I mean, because you never
know who you're gonna bump into, No.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
You never know. That's my thing.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Be good to people, man, be good, be kind, because
it comes back to you tenfold. And that's that's how
I have operated. That's how I lived my life. That's
how it was raised. Just to be good. You ain't
gonna hear nothing bad about me in the streets.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Is not just not go here.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Everybody's home, girl.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
I mean, that's what That's how I try to show up.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
But that's just it's a testament to my parents and
also who I've become as a woman and also the
confidence that I have as a woman. Now just you know,
I am who I am. This is it, this is
this is all you go get man.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
You know.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
And uh, I'm really I'm becoming very happy with how
I'm turning out.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Yeah. Well, I mean Atlanta is a big part of
your story. I mean again, especially the east Side. Shout
out to the east Side, you know. And I went
to read and I know, I know, you know y'all
got some so so but we all still love though
the east Side. But but like, how is just being
in Atlanta, you know, shaped how you kind of approach
all the work that you do. Now.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Oh, I mean, I say I get the best of
both words you mentioned, obviously the east Side. I was
born in Atlanta, raised Indicator, so I fit I can
represent both sides. You know, I don't really know anything different,
and I think that is one thing that I would
like to change about my life. You know, it's time,
it's time to get it's time to move on from
from Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
I think I've done a lot here.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Yeah, but I would love to be by coastal or
by continent or something, you know, at one point.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
But this is my foundation.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I think that being true to Atlanta, like really being
true to Atlanta. I can wear that like a badge
of honor, because you know, it's a lot of people
that have come to our city converge upon our city.
You don't find a lot of people who are actually
from here anymore.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
So.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
But I'm telling you, if you meet a woman from Atlanta,
from Atlanta, from Atlanta who lives in Atlanta, from Atlanta, Atlanta,
do they say it right?
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Even whatever it is, Metro Atlanta, whatever.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Folks that were raised here are probably some of the
coolest women you've ever met, absolutely true to Atlanta. Because
you know, an Atlanta girl when you see it, you
you mean, like, oh, she she from She's from here.
From here, We're different, we move different. You'll never meet
a woman like an Atlanta woman, a real one. And
so I stand on that, and I think all of us,
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like all my my core people, like my folk, we
all really.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Act to like.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
What you call them, a town girl.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Like that whole song.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
I mean, you know, given take a couple of words, uh,
you know, scenarios, but like there are women like that.
And when that song came out and I was thinking
there was going to be bigger than it was. But
I love that record and it's true true today.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
You know what thing you kind of mentioned, you know,
expanding beyond it. I think about that myself, Like, you know,
one day, I don't know if I'll live here forever.
But the one thing I've always kind of wondered about
is where would I go? Atlanta is such like a
unique place it is. That's one thing I've kind of
struggled with. And you know, if you ever thought about where,
where are some places? You think that you know again,
whether it's I don't want to be by water. I
(25:54):
want to be by some water, But like if you
were to leave Atlanta, where where were some places you
might end up?
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Well, yeah, I definitely want to spot in La. I
just do.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I love LA when I when I go to LA
and I do my self care in La, like I
take solo trips to LA and just and hang out
with my friends out there or not or just I
just like being out there. So I know, eventually I
want to have something. I know it's extremely expensive and
all of that, but I want to be in a
position to have a piece of property out there or
(26:22):
condo or just do a verbal or Airbnb that that's
mine and I still love like.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I love for it, laudadale.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I love the water, but also like speaking, you know, vastly,
I want to maybe go somewhere.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
In Africa, don't you know. I don't know. I'm just
I don't want to limit myself.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
I got some stories about Africa. I'm going to tell
you right now, have you been? Have you been Africa?
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Not?
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Okay, So I'm working on something. We'll talk about that
off of this. I'm working on something, you know, to
potentially take some folks out there. Really, I was in
Cape Town last year. I went out there for buddy
Mine's birthday. I stayed for eight days. I did not
want to leave. Wow, and Cape Town is like the
Buckhead of Africa. I'll just tell you it's it's nice,
but it's not what they like. It's not like Africa
(27:07):
Africa like you might think. Like when I say that,
you know, it's not as diverse. I remember on the
plane out there, I was like, with only black people
on this plane, like behind the Cape Town. I remember asking,
I think we were like me and my three or
four friends. I went out there. I was looking around
like is it just us on this plane only black
people going to Africa. But we found the folks out there.
We had an amazing time. That was so beautiful. But
and I remember even wanting to leave. We we stretched
(27:30):
it out, Like when it was time to go, I
was like, we just want this one more restaurant real quick.
Just tell the driver just to follow us here and
just put all our bags and like we left the
restaurant and got in the car and damn near cried
going to the airport, like I don't want to go home.
I'm telling you that trip. All I kept saying to
my friends was they lied to us. They lied to us,
They lied to us, and that was only a small
(27:51):
piece of it. So I'm telling you right now, one
hundred percent, we need to go see Africa.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
It is. It has everything that you need, everything you want,
and it's nothing like people think it is. Again, I'm
talking to a friend of mine out in Ghana right
now about maybe doing something out there next year, taking
some folks out there. It is life changing. That's what
I hear in every way, shape or form.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Yeah, and I did my DNA too, so I'm from
West Africa, Guinea South, so I've done that and I
traced back to the Fulani tribes. I looked up the
Fulani tribe. I'm like, oh my god, these women we
look alike literally, you know, high cheek bones, like like
skin tone like everything.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I'm like, these my people, man. I want to meet
my people. I want to see if I meet.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
My people, see if i'd some cousins or something like that.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
I want to meet a Fuilani woman.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
And it's funny because every time I'm down, like in
the Caribbean or d everybody thinks I'm Haitian. I didn't
mine too. I'm from like Molly, you know what I'm saying, Okay,
kind of like Western Africa a little bit too, so
you know, got a little Nigerian in me.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Nice, you know.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
I asked my parents.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
I was like that.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
I was like, I feel like I owt me some
money or something like that, like meet the whole thing
to come around.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I love it. I love it. I'm just not going
I'm just not.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
I don't want to cap myself on anything like and
want to put a cap on anything. No.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
I mean, look, when you go out there, you just
realize you're like if this is just one part of
this place, right, there's so much more of Africa to see.
Like again going out there, for me, I was like,
as much as I want to go see you know,
Rome and Italy and some of these other places I've
been to China, been to some other I was like,
I just want to explore more of this continent, Like
I want to see everything this place has to offer,
(29:22):
because this is one of the most amazing things and
places I've ever been. Right so, I'm telling you right now,
like the.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
First place of humanity, We're not going to get into that.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
I'm not getting that right now. That'll be a different
that'll be a different episode of the podcast, right right,
right right now. One thing you always do to you
always again and talk about, you know, it's important to
follow your own path. But you know, just for the
folks that are out there getting started, you know, sometimes
it's hard to follow your path and you can't kind
of see the next step. Just what have you learned
about kind of stepping out on faith and kind of
(29:49):
pursuing your dreams and just knowing things are going to
work out.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
The blessing is in the movement.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
You just got to keep moving even if it doesn't
feel like you know who whatever you serve will let
you know like it's something that's not right.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
But I feel like even when I don't know, because
I don't know a.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Lot, I still move, meaning I'll book a gig, or
i'll do you know, I'll i'll get a roll, or
I'll keep moving on, I'll keep working on different things.
And I feel like when you move, you can only
be met with that momentum. Yeah, for you know, when
when it's that thing that you want, unless you absolutely
(30:27):
need to stand still, that's your season to stand still.
I get that too, But I have learned and that's
what I say constantly when I'm being interviewed or when
people ask me a question like this or similar. The
blessing for me has been in the movement. Just keep moving.
It doesn't matter the pace. See, this world makes us
think we have to go so fast with everything pace.
(30:50):
It's literally a marathon, not a sprint. And I know
that's very cliche, but I have seen that it's still
it's really the long game.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Yeah, it's the long game.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Yeah. I think a lot of people, yeah, they played
the short game. Like I read something one time. It
was it was saying, you know, make make decisions for
your future self, you know, make decisions because you know,
in the current situation you'll feel one way, but like
make decisions that your future self is going to appreciate.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
And I have a friend of mine, you know, he
would always say life is more about motion than direction. Yeah,
to your point, right, It's like it's about in the movement.
It's about keeping things going, just kind of putting one
step front the other one and kind of moving in
that right direction. You know. Before we get out of here,
my question for you is, with all the experiences you had,
everything you've learned over your career, if there was a
(31:35):
Rashaan A Lee billboard somewhere in Atlanta. Now, BMF said
the world was BMF, so we're not going to go there.
But if there was a Rashaan I Lee billboard somewhere
in Atlanta, what would be on that billboard?
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Oh my goodness. I think.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
The thing that's coming to my mind right now is
I hope you dance. I don't know if you know
this song by Leamne Womack, I think, but is basically
talk about how people take chances in life. Will you
sit it out or where you dance when you have
the opportunity to do something that's even more grand than
you ever thought that your mind could fathom. And I
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hope when you get the opportunity that you don't sit
it out, that you actually dance, And that means grasp.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Life, whatever's supposed.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
To be yours divinely, let it fall into your lap,
and let it meet you where you are, so that
we can all truly live the purpose the life that
we're supposed to have while we're here. And I think
that's what the that's the journey that I'm on right now.
I'm in a space where I'm just trying to literally
be whatever that next version of that is. The person
(32:44):
that I know is in here, she's so big and
not to talk about myself in third person, but like,
of course, we have to work on ourselves to get
to that level.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
But I feel, I feel.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
It coming, and I don't know what it is. I
don't know how big it's going to be. It's going
to be something I can't even fathom. And I want
to dance and I don't want to sit out and
watch it.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
I gotta be a willing participant.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Absolutely, you wouldn't feel it if it wasn't in you right,
It's something I've learned over the years.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Yeah and yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Know again you have every right and that's the whole
purpose is again to be the best, most full version
of yourself. Yeah, and not dimn that for anybody.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
I can't. I can't do that or dimm it for yourself.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Different for yourself.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Right, that's the biggest struggle. It's us.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
I don't care what people think about me. I'm a
reform people pleaser. I'm cool on everybody.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
That's nice. All right, now, I see your friend. I don't.
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
I used to care what people thought. I'm like, oh
my god, the energy I spent on that. But I
have to learn to become a better version of for Shan,
so that could stop care. I really, I literally don't.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
I don't. I don't care.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Well, I'm gonna tell you right now. We love this
version for Sean, and you appreciate you pulling up to
the pod before we got to here. Ra Sean, how
can people find do you support you, follow you all
that good stuff?
Speaker 2 (34:01):
I'm rashaan Alie everywhere I didn't. That's one thing that
I will encourage people to do. If you can keep
your name consistent on all your socials and all that things.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Try to do that. It's easy for people to find you.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Yeah, Rashaan Alie everywhere from Instagram to Facebook to Twitter
x or whatever whatever they call it whatever. Yeah, but
I'm more active on Instagram. It's easy for me.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
I know.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
People are like, he should get on TikTok. I'm like,
I just can't navigate another app. I can't do it now,
I'm not gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
It's a lot. Yeah, there's gonna be more coming.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
So I know, I know. But yeah, Rashan a Lee
everywhere check me out.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Well, Rashaan A Lee, thank you so much for pulling up.
We appreciate you. Keep on doing the amazing work. We
hear the support. Yes, and uh that's the pod you
all we out. You've been listening to butter Nomics and
I'm your host, Brandon Butler. Comments feedback. Want to be
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