December 23, 2024 ⢠43 mins
On this episode of Butternomics, Brandon sits down with Jullian Slater, aka Tech Man, a pioneer in the world of virtual reality content creation. From his first viral TikTok to becoming the face of VR, Julian shares his journey, insights on the future of VR and AR, and the importance of staying authentic in content creation. They dive into the limitless possibilities of building virtual worlds, monetizing digital spaces, and creating immersive experiences that merge reality with imagination. Whether you’re a gamer, creator, or tech enthusiast, this conversation will inspire you to think bigger about the future of technology and creativity.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'll see a lot of people try to make a video.
When I say try to make it like, it's like
they sit down.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna make a video and it's
gonna be funny.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Yeah, and it's that's not how it works all the time.
You know what I'm saying, because a lot of people
can tell when you try to do something, if something
is naturally funny, you can tell. In order to be
a content creator, be you. That's the biggest thing. Be you.
Don't try to be anyone else. Just play the game
and record it. That five minutes of me just having
(00:28):
fun change my life. I sat there for twenty five
minutes trying to do something cool. I'm like, I'm in here.
Let me Dang, that wasn't smooth. I didn't go how
it goes. I took my hand, set off, I white
you sweat off my head. I was like, bro, you
know what, man, let me just see how much time.
I don't even care. That message is just to say,
if you're gonna make content, please just be you. Do you,
and it's gonna come out great. But I promise I
(00:48):
don't overthink it. Just make the content. I promise you.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Bro, everybody, Welcome to another episode of the Button Nomics podcast.
I'm your host, Brandon Butler, founding CEO of Butter atl
and today we got a tech Man in the building,
tech Man himself, mister Julius Slater, Julie, How you doing, bro?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
I am blessed, I'm amazing, I feel great. I'm honored
to be here. I appreciate you for having me on.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Oh man, I appreciate you. I just I just saw
Get it clear. Now we're going by We're going by Juice,
We're going by tech Man. How would you like me
to refer to you during the rest of this commed?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
You know what, Today I'm feeling a bit techy, So okay,
let's let's keep it tech Man. Let's keep it tech Man.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I love it. I love it, sir. Now, I'm sure
people will know who you are. I'm sure they've seen
some of the videos and stuff like that. You know,
the viral uh you know Star Wars video. You know
what I'm saying, the VR stuff. But just so, so,
who is tech Man?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Tech Man is an anomaly. Tech Man is so much.
You get what I'm saying. Tech Man is an anime character,
a superhero anti hero. Tech Man is tech Man is
future me. Tech Man is everyone who I ever will be,
all into one personified into my content.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
That that is the deepest answer I've ever heard anybody. Again,
I'm just I'm just gonna assume he just plugged into
the You know, I don't know. Lawnmower Man might be
before your time, Bro, but I'm just saying, go look
up lawnmower Man. But I feel like you were plugged
into the Internet the same way lawnmower Man was and
scared the hell out of us back in the day.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
You just put me on. I'm gonna go look up.
I've never seen lawnmar Bro.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
It's crazy man. Like the short version of it, there's
this guy he's like developing VR and all this stuff.
This is like in the nineties lawnmower It's the movie
is called lawnmore Man. I think there's a there's definitely
a two. There might be a three. Also, the long
story short, there's this guy he works for this tech company.
He's developing like all these VR systems, and there's this
guy that's like the lawnmower man outside. He's like a
(02:44):
special needs dude, but he's like the lawnmower guy. So
the guy says, well, look, I think this stuff can
help anybody. So he basically gets the lawnmower guy to
gree to like start doing tests with the VR. Long
story short, lawnmower man like ends up becoming the Internet
like some kind of way. And this is in the nineties, bro,
Like some kind of what. He uploads his whole consciousness
(03:05):
like into the Internet and begins becoming like scotting it
and like killing people and taking over the world and
all that. And they can't they can't destroy him, Like
you never seen this move before.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
No, But I'm about to watch it tonight. Bro.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
The graphics now, you know, like those nineties Internet graphics,
you know what I mean. It looks like aol on crack.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
But I'm telling you're fine. I'm telling you it's the concept.
For me, it's the storyline, the plot that's lawnmower Man.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I'm surprised, Bro. You gotta see law more. Man. I'm
just telling you right now, you're gonna look at it
and you're gonna be cracking up. But it's also when
you see it, a lot of the stuff they're talking
about is already starting to happen. To day with just
again they're talking about VR and the internet and again
this is like back during AOL days.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
You know what I mean, I need that. I'm not sure.
I have to look that up, see where I can
find it's streaming on it something.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
It's the thing, man, But look bro like, so I
know you do all kinds of stuff in a tech
especially in the VR space though, right, Like, just for
those who don't know, man, explain kind of the state
of VR to day, because I think people know about
it at a high level. They think it's all just
about like throwing on the big oculus glasses and stuff
like that, but there's so much more beneath that's going on. Suggestion,
you are the VR expert, E've gonna bring our audience
(04:11):
up to you know, what's going on and what's happening
in the VR right now.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
The crazy thing about virtual reality is I don't believe
it's in It's still in its infancy. But it's still young, right,
It's still like especially like as a content creator is
still a niche, so like it's one of It's one
of those things where me, I believe that VR is
a future wearable technology in general. Right, it's only so
much more. We can update our phones too, it's only
(04:36):
you know, so with virtual reality, it gives you access
to literally an entirely new world. Like so for me,
when I look at virtual reality, it's literally a second reality.
It's a second world, right. So there's so much that
you can do within virtual reality other than playing video games.
Right now, they have like simulations where you can do
(04:57):
open heart surgery, or you can do simulations to improve
whatever career path you're on without anything hindering your learning process,
you know, Like they have de escalation situations for police officers.
You'll get in virtual virtual reality and try to de
(05:17):
escalate a situation. Right now, the state of VR is
in such a I think it's having a boom right now, Like,
especially in the gaming side, this is a first year
where in a long time where there are a lot
of people excited about the games coming out, Like this fall,
you got games like Batman, Arkham Shadow. You've got major
ips coming to virtual reality like Metro. These are things
(05:41):
that like people who aren't really used to VR, they're
now able to find a reason to get in because
usually people will look at VR as a gimmick, like
why would I want to put this on my head,
to like be by myself doing something somewhere, which isn't
a lot of people don't look at it for the
adventure or what you can do inside of virtual reality.
They don't look at the imagination or how much you
(06:04):
can actually do in virtual reality. So now in twenty
twenty four, I believe we're taking the steps to make
it more mainstream, but it in the hands of more people,
like especially with like the Metaquest three is coming out.
That headset is only two hundred ninety nine dollars, right,
and for me to say only two ninety nine Back
in twenty sixteen, in order to even get into virtual reality,
(06:26):
you needed an eight hundred dollars VR headset along with
a two thousand dollars computer. So now that you can
get a high level of virtual reality with high graphics,
good fidelity for three hundred dollars, it's like we're literally
stepping into the future right now.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, And I think and just for those folks that
don't know, I mean, you know, we talk, we're gonna
talk about a lot about VR. But also there's what
we call AR, right, so RS augmented reality. We're almost
kind of like laying a tech layer or something visual
on top of the real world in front of you.
So for example, I mean, I know you got the
glasses on right now. They're not fully ar but hypothetically,
you know, if they were, you could be looking at
(07:03):
me and it could be literally in your lenses like
show you like my social profile, like information about me
versus VR. Is you actually putting on the glasses themselves
and being from completely immersed in the experience.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
And I don't think people even understand the possibilities of
augmented reality, right, Like you say, I have these glasses on,
and you want to create the clothing brand that interacts
with augmented reality glasses. Say, right now you have on
this black hoodie, but then you have a three M
logo or something on it, right, the glasses interact with it.
(07:35):
Now you have on whatever your virtual avatar once yeah
in my eyes right, Say, for instance, you have Pokemon Go.
When that craze came out and everybody was on their
phones running around, imagine now you don't have to be
distracted holding your phone up. Now you can just walk around,
turn the app on in the background, you go for
a walk or a jog. You see a Pokemon run
across you, you can just catch it. Now with augmented reality,
(07:59):
the virtual world is seamlessly connected with the real world.
So that's what I'm excited for. Virtual reality is amazing, yes,
but once we're able to seamlessly connect both the virtual
world and the real world together with good fidelity, occlusion
and everything like that is going to be a different
type of world.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Oh absolutely, It's going to bring a whole new layer
to just everything you interact with. I mean, I remember
being at the park and seeing groups of people playing
Pokemon Go, and it's like, what are they doing? They're
all holding their phones and kind of running around, you know,
it's almost getting hit by cars they go down to
the street. But again that's because you're you're interacting with this,
but you're looking down at the screen, and that screen
is showing you the world, and all of a sudden,
that stuff is literally overlaid right in front of your eyes.
(08:40):
It becomes, you know, fully seenless and fully integrated. What
I want to know is how did you even get
started in this stuff?
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Man? Man? You know what's so funny? I okay, I'm
not going to tell the whole story, but I'm gonna
take it back. So I was pretty I was pretty
good in high school.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Right.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I graduated thirty six GPA. Right. I went to college,
but college ironically was not for me. Went for like
one year, but I personally feel that one year is
literally why I'm here now because on campus, AT and
T pulled up and they just had these little cardboard
boxes that you fold into a VR head cardboard. Yeah right,
(09:18):
that that moment literally changed my life because when I
put it on my face and you could touch a
button to have your character move on your phone. But
with me, I was like, as I pressed the button,
what if I walk with it? Let me see how
that feels. Right, So I was like, oh wow, Like
I'm here then, bro I just locked in, did research, research, research,
(09:41):
started working. I really didn't wasn't able to afford or
get into VR because I was a broke college kid
until the could goal came out. That was like two
hundred dollars, but it had one controller and you only
had three directions of movement. You only could move your
head up and the right to left, up and down right,
So that was cool. Started playing with that, but then
(10:04):
I got into I did a focus group, which is ironic,
and they sent me the Medoquest one. I was gonna
get it anyway, but they sent it to me for free. Right.
I was like, ray, I can just make content and
do stuff and get stuff for free. So I started
making a little content. It was doing decent. But then
twenty twenty one, I said, I was listening to Gary
Vee and I had a few friends just saying, bro,
(10:26):
just why are gonna get on TikTok. I said, you
know what, I'm gonna try it out. March ninth, twenty
twenty one, I posted my first TikTok on VR content
viral already, Right in a year, I was at one
million followers on.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
TikTok million one year.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah, and in exactly one year. So March nine, twenty
twenty one to March nine, twenty twenty two, I had
a million followers cause I was just locked in, like
I'm talking about, I was posting three tiktoks a day
like cause I was like, oh, it's thirty second videos.
I'm funny, let me just And I was even trying,
if I'm being honest, I was just making gameplay and
I was like, I naturally play the game good. I
(11:06):
posted them and they was going viral. One video got
four million likes m and then from there, I like
that same video I reposted like once or twice a
year and it go viral every time.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Now we'll get into that a second, but I just
want to know what's what's the experience like of going
from zero to one million in a year? Like, how
does that? How does your life change over the over
the course of that process.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Man, that's a deep question, because look, I ain't gonna
lie to you. It's a lot of ups and downs mentally, because,
like one, because it's so easy. At first, I didn't
know how to really place my value because I was like, man,
it was so easy. I'm pretty sure everybody can do it,
(11:48):
even me. But then everybody was like, bro, you're inspiring me.
I'm gonna do it and it couldn't be replicated, right,
So then I'm like, okay, how do I like? It's
the mental part is trying to figure out your value
when it comes to business, And at first I wasn't
a businessman. If I'm being honest, I was getting into
it just like, Okay, it's a thirty second video. This
(12:10):
amount of money is cool. I'm just take it. Right, Yeah,
I'm living like I don't got to work, you know
what I'm saying. So mentally it's like you really get
you got to learn a lot. You gotta learn a lot,
and then could you with the fast growth comes people
and businesses that want to work with you, and a
lot of a lot of the times for me, a
(12:31):
few of the times they didn't have good intentions at
the end of the day. Right, So it's the it's hard,
it's it's it's weird. It's a weird place because you
grow in a year and you like, dang, bro, like
I'm him, like I kind of made it. You feel me,
feel like you made it, got the condo in Miami,
even me in a year, you feel me. So I'm like, okay,
the ups and down. So it's really it takes like
(12:53):
it's a loaded question, bro, because it feels great, but
then it's like what comes with it?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
No, Look, look now you know I've I've grown a platform.
I mean we haven't grown into a million, but I
can definitely understand the point of what comes with growing
something and kind of becoming a person and all of
a sudden everybody kind of coming at you and he
trying to figure out what their intentions are, what they want,
because it ain't like they just coming at you for
their health.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
You know what I'm saying, because y'all wasn't messing with you,
y'all messing with tech man.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
You know.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
So it's like it's like you start wondering, like what
the objective is on top of that, you're trying to
figure out, Yeah, how do you value yourself in the market?
Like am I undervalue myself? My overvalue myself? Like getting
more comfortable asking for certain things?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Right?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
You know again just for the context, right, like when
you start start happening, like are we talking three figure deil?
Like six figure deils? Two figures? You gotta be specific
just so there's some broad specifics man, Like what happens?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, I'm not gonna lie tell you
around like twenty two I was touching like six figures. Wow, yeah,
I ain't gonna because like I ain't gonna lie to
tell you like I got twelve on my neck, but
like I was. But that's what I'm saying. That's what
a mental Because you're young, you start making money, you
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start and then you got to balance it out right,
and you gotta it's the maturity that comes with it.
And then it's like spreading yourself in the market. Yeah,
because I ain't gonna lie. I was doing so great
on TikTok. I didn't really I didn't really spread myself
too far on everything else, right, but yeah, it was
it was a it was some good because I'm like,
I ain't gonna cap like for thirty second video. At
(14:28):
times you definitely was getting four figures per thirty second video.
Oh that's crazy, you know what I'm saying, Like, cause
you it was. It was at a point where like,
I ain't gonna lie, bro. It was at a point
where on TikTok you thought you saw VR. You literally
just saw tech man. Literally that's all you saw. It
was a point where VR just tech man, tech man,
tech man. Now it's like, I'm at the driver is
(14:50):
to make that everywhere YouTube, Twitch, Instagram like tech man,
tech man, tech man. My what's funny. Back in I
had a esports team had picked me up and our
slogan for me was like the face of VR. And
that's still the goal, you feel me, that's still we're
still working on it because ain't gonna lie. It was
(15:10):
so back in like my heyday, back when I was like,
I was like ignorant back but I was like I
was the face of VRE I'm talking about, and I
was moving like it too. I'm talking about. I was
at events I'm talking about. You can't think of VR
if I seen tech ma I' talking about. I was
on ESPN Lebron James like my post. You know what
(15:32):
I'm saying. I'm on ESPN Fox, I'm on Bleacher Report
reposting me. I'm like, bro, I thought I was gonna
be on ESPN for football. I'm on ESPN for VR.
You feel me? So? Look, of course my head got
a little big at one point. But it's like you,
you you go through it and you understand how you
gotta how you gotta navigate it.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Well, yeah, that's what I was going to ask too,
I mean, and you know, just understanding how you manage that?
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Right?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Did you start looking for, you know, a team or
like mentors and people around you just to kind of
give you some con because again, at that point, you
got to start asking yourself like who can I trust?
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Man?
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Who's got my best interest in mind? Right, I'm sure
kind of comes up. So how did you kind of
manage on that side to make sure you were taking
care of the business of tech man also so that
you could be sustainable.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Row row Row, I don't even know where acting that is,
but brow when it comes to business and trust, bro literally,
I feel like I just got comfortable with business and
trusts like three four five months ago when I signed
with my current manager, because now it's like I have
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a manager specifically for me, right, because at first, like
I said, VR is a niche, So at first it
was like people from like development teams are like different
places in the industry trying to make like an agency
or something and try to get other companies like, hey,
we have these creators. But that's not what they did,
you know what I'm saying, that's not what you do.
(17:07):
But you're trying to do. I understand you're trying to
figure out a place in the market because of the
growing market, there's so many possibilities of VR. But on
a business standpoint, bro, like, because the industry is new,
and like entertainment in the industry especially is new with VR,
I'm just not feeling like business wise because my manager
(17:27):
now has done worked with creators other than like virtual
reality stuff, right, and that's really my whole goal. Like, yeah,
being at the top of a niche is cool, but
I ain't gonna lie. I'm trying to be at the
top of like everything, if you know what I'm saying. Like, yeah,
it's cool to be the top VR gamer, but it's
also way better to be the top gamer.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
So it's like business wise, bro, going through so much.
I doesn't been in my time. I've been ft over
you feel me, yeah, by like a few companies. But
right now, yeah, this is the first time I kind
of feel comfortable, like business wise doing this. And I've
been doing this full time really since I bro, it
(18:09):
was ironic. I've been doing this four times since the
day I started it. But but yeah, well about three
four yeah, about three years, four years. I'm just now
starting to feel comfortable business wise.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
That's dope. Man. Well, I mean it's a process, bro,
But like, tell me about these VR worlds, right, So,
like we talk, you talk about VR, like where is
all this stuff being built at? Like where do these
where do these places exist? That for those that don't.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Know what's crazy? Okay, first, I mean, what's crazy. Right now,
you actually can build a world in VR. You can
get in there and physically be there, build it, mold it,
see the side you want it like we done took
steps so far into the future. And my well, actually yeah,
because if you knew about VR since twenty sixteen and
you like see the steps is how far we can
(18:54):
be Like dang, a lot of people just look at
it now if you just get interested in VR. I
was like, that's a cool look give me but bro
long way, Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Originally, well
even right now, still you can build worlds in Blender,
transform the unity, put in assets like that, build them
on a computer. A lot of these things are it's
really complete imagination. It's like, in my eyes, it's like
(19:14):
building Legos. I get in Blender, like because I'm working
on some VR projects right now, I get in Blender.
It's literally like Legos because you can download asset packs
community to for VR hands if you weren't hand tracking.
For me personally, from what I've been seeing, I personally
don't have to do a lot of coding because a
lot of things are like in there for you for
plug and play. Yeah, so on my end, it's pretty simple.
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It's really just imagination and how much time you want
to put into it and.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
When you build these worlds out, like you know, we've
talked about, you know, creating assets and things exist in
these worlds, right, Like how do you monetize these worlds?
And like how do you make it? How do you
get people in there? And how do you monetize on
top of you know, having an audience inside that VR
world because you look, you was talking about some crazy
stuff you will be doing in VR.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Okay, so okay, okay, okay. If I'm going to be
blunt specifically with if I'm going to build something or
like a freelancer that's not going to build like a
game to put on a platform. If you want to
build like your own world to put in like a
social platform like VR Chatter Horizon, it's unlimited, like if
you you can monetize it however you want to, Like
however you would think to monetize in real life, you
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can monetize that way in VR. So the project I'm
working on started off as a one to one replica
of my apartment bucket. Right, I was like, bro, I
can just build the whole building. So because it's pretty
simple once you get like the tools and Blender and
you understand how to make your workflow easier. So I
(20:40):
just got a copy of my of the floor plan
of the building and literally just make it one to
one and then you put in all the assets you want.
So once the bases built, the floor plan and the walls,
the everything is like that, you can design to have
you want to. So if we want to make it futuristic,
we just overlay futuristic materials. We add in some objects
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that will give you the feel of a dystopian or
futuristic feel, however you want to do it. So that
being said, now that I've built the whole building with
my community, if I want to, if I have a
Patreon or something, someone could literally rent out one of
those apartment buildings to do and live their virtual life
in because it's a whole community and it's literally like
a second life. In VR. There are virtual bars where
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you can literally your character will literally get drunk when
you drink. It's hilarious, like you can and you have
to watch it because if you get too drunk you'll
black out. It's you're laughing. But like when you pop
up to this world. You know it starts, it starts
getting but like no, but like you literally have to
walk up to the door if you don't have your
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idea or tell them your birthday. If you're a child,
you cannot get in in VR. Yeah, like it's policed.
It's real life. Bro. I had a birthday party in
VR and people would think like, oh real, but no, Bro,
I had a birthday part in VR. They like cleared
out a whole world, like nobody could get in, not
a whole world. Yeah, they cleared out a whole world. Yeah,
it's hilarious, bro, it was a whole world. It was
(22:08):
like a club world, so like you couldn't get in
unless Like I said, it was cool because at first
we had this one guy get in and he started
like just yelling racial slurs because knew it was tag
Man's birthday. But it's funny because they put a bomb
on him and he blew up and kicked him out.
Yeah that's what I'm saying. Like it's policing in here, bro,
Like we got security. Bro, it's strip clubs in here. Bro.
(22:30):
Look bro, look there's Look when you look at VR
and you look at the commercials, you just see people
with the head sit on and the controllers moving their
head in their hands. Right, there's levels. Bro, you got
full body tracking. You put the trackers on your hips
and your ankles. Right now, you can move your entire
body in VR. You can kick if you're in a
fighting game, you can kick somebody, punch somebody, step on
somebody when you're in a social VR game. Right. They
(22:54):
have strip clubs that they build out that you cannot
get in unless you are I got whatever age some
of them eighteen and twenty one. But they really check
like you cannot get in here if you're not of
age because they are a real woman in full body
tracking dancing to get paid in virtual reality.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Let me get this straight. So I go in the
virtual reality world. Yeah, I can go to VR Magic City. Yeah, right,
but I can't get in because it's got a bouncer
at the front.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
You gottach my, I d Yeah, no, you can look.
So you're gonna get a portal. Go in the portal.
You're gonna go to the world. Once you're in the world,
there'll be a door with the bouncer, and so.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
You gotta show up and then you go in and
there literally because yeah, I think people think that just
VR is just the headsets. But to your point, there's like,
you know, what you call haptic suits and like the
gloves and you said pen ankle things right where you
can feel and move right.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Don't get me started on the haptic suits at the
strip club. Oh but my bad, bad. I'm let you finish.
I let you finish, my bad.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
But it's just interesting to me, man, Like, I think
that like people really you don't understand that these this
world kind of exists, and they think that it's maybe
just like some small, little niche community, right, but there
are millions of people that are interacting with he thinks
from across the world.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Yes, there are love stories of people who I've never met.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Physically married in VR or something like run.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Literally proposed married in VR, and I'm like, bo, you
know what, it's each his own.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
But no, man, no, it's yeah. I think people don't understand, like,
you know, again, like how how big this really is?
Like with the scale, it's also possible to your point,
you know, you're talking about how you can create you know,
assets and jewelry and things that people actually buy, you know,
in VR, they you know, have to customize their avatars
and all this stuff. But then even though it's VR money,
(24:45):
that money has got that's real money too.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Oh bo bo bo bo, What do you mean VR money?
All of this is USD. What you mean you can like? Okay,
So I know a guy named Hardy, he makes worlds
in Horizon. He made he made a Hardy coin that
if you want to go inside of his world and
buy some assets or something, go buy Go purchase some
(25:08):
Hardy coins. So now you have your Indian coins that
were converted from USD. So it's hilarious because it's like
all you got to do is build the popularity of
the world. Yeah, because like if I tell you right now,
hey brother, look, I'm selling some tech coins if you
want to buy like a bundle for ten dollars and
come to my world and like do some stuff. But
(25:28):
I'd be dope. You'll be like why would I do that?
Because like I don't know the world, Like I don't
know what you're doing. So it's the marketing behind it.
So it's building out the world, doing the content behind it.
Doing like so even with the world I'm doing, everything
I'm building is a part of marketing, right, So tech
Man is going to have a comic book. I'm working
on a comic book. When I get to the point,
(25:50):
I'm going to have it animated. Some stuff I'm building
is like stuff that's going to be inside of the
world of the tech Men world. So even when I
do merch, when I make like clothing, it'll be clothing
that's worn from the characters in the comics. It's not
going to be like a picture of tech Man on
a shirt. It's going to be like the brand. For example, marketing.
If you watch Narbito, you see they wear the headbands
(26:12):
all the time. If I go to the storm by
a headband, I'm with them. I'm a part of the Klan.
Now you feel me. I'm there, I have the nostalgia.
So with me, the marketing is different. It's like everything
isn't calculated, it's together. So like if you get in
VR and go to this world, you're going to be
in the world that you had read in the comic
book or seen in the tech Man show. So now
you get to actually be there with tech Man.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
And just again just to again give context for the
folks that understand, like when you say worlds like again,
these are just completely immersive experiences. So a world could
be anything from to your point, a replication of your
apartment building, right, you know, and that is the world.
That could be the whole world and within itself, now
in each one of those rooms there could be a
totally different experience.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Well, my specific world is going to literally be a
world like the building is.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
In the world. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, too, right,
But I mean I'm just saying like, on one level,
a world could literally just be a building but all
these things in it, right, Or it could be literally
a world in which there are many buildings in many
places and many things you could do.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Right.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
What are some just like really unique worlds again, because
I think people think about you know, we talked about
the Strip club, like, what's like a unique world that
you've seen, or it's just really interesting that somebody put together.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
One of the dopest worlds is there's this world you
teleport in and it's just like a vast ocean like
beyond where you can see, right, but it's only up
to like ankle level, so it kind of feels like
you're I guess it would feel like an afterlifeish type
of feel. But then there's a giant tree in the middle.
It's a treehouse. You go into treehouse and then you
(27:44):
can press like a there's a screen you can choose
from and then the space around you will turn to
whatever ambient a visual you choose. So it feels very
like psychedelic, and it can like put you on like
such a level of peace because it's like calm, binurobeats,
(28:07):
frequencies and things like that, where it's like you put
you in such a space of zen and meditation. And
then there are different worlds where you can literally go
on like scuba dive or you'll just sit there and
ride and you'll go underwater see giant wells or sharks
and stuff like that. A lot of worlds are like
(28:28):
very I guess I would say trippy, dystopian futuristic, make
you feel like you're in a movie. Everything like Ready
Player one, everything Ready Player one. Yeah, Like it's really
hard to say because you see so much like what
can you pull out? It's like I really want people
(28:50):
to just go and see, you know, like one day
I might see if I might get like headsets and
just have like a little tour, like y'all come with me,
let's all go on a virtual for a tour in VR.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
And then look, we need we need to do a
butter VR tour. Man, let's go hook it up bring
some people. Now, that's but that's a good point though.
Like so, say somebody's listening to this conversation right now
and they're like, man, you know what tech man is Dope,
I want to do that too. How do they go
from zero to one? They want to get started? They
don't have no VR stuff. All they got is a
laptop and a nice internet connection at home. What's what's
(29:24):
the first thing they should do?
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Zero one, zero to one to VR content creation.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Or just even just experience in VR. But then I'll
also be a content creational tone.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Man, first, if you just want to experience a VR. Look,
this isn't even because you can go in the link
in my bio and then get a discount. This isn't
even why I'm expressing that. I'm not even going to
say this because you can get a thirty dollars gift
card when you use the link in my bio. You
know what I'm saying. Sure, that's not why I'm saying this.
What I'm gonna say is because it's affordable it's only
(29:52):
two ninety nine, and then like, literally the graphics in
the Metaquest three are amazing. I'm not gonna lie, like
I'm I'm not even joking. Like if I was going
to recommend a headset, it would be the meda Quest
three because of the process and power. It has a
headphone jack, YadA YadA. But if you just want to
get into VR, the medic Quest three s is two
(30:13):
ninety nine and it's literally as almost as strong as
the Quest three. It literally it just has different lenses.
So I mean, I would I recommend, I tell everyone
get the medic Quest three. Yes, it's the best entry
level VR. You don't need a PC because everything comes
on the headset. But if you do have a PC headset,
you can stream your PC games wirelessly to the Quest three,
(30:36):
So then you'll be able to experience like very high
quality virtual reality games wirelessly, because my biggest thing is
I don't like wires when I play VR.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yeah, you want to be able to move around like
I've seen you even have like the thing you can walk.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
On and all that. Yeah, that's one of my sponsors
to the catwalk. Yeah, and I'm not saying like, if
you want one. You can hit the link in my
bio and get one hundred and thirty dollars off. But
just theoretically, if you did want one, could get a
discount by using the link in my body.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I like, how you just see this what I'm talking about. This,
this is the influential aspect of it coming in and
I'm one here for One of the things we were
talking about too, was representation VR. Yes, right, Like, what's
(31:27):
your perspective on that? Because I know, again I've seen
stuff and again you look down and you're like, man,
these hands all like my hands, But like you're working
on that stuff too, aren't you.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yes, I'm trying to. Well, one, just being a voice.
My biggest thing is being a voice because you know,
some people in the VR content creative community, the people
have someone called me the Jackie Robinson of VR. But
do you know how much pressure that is? I'm like, bro,
I'm just making content. They're like, man, we don't see
no brothers doing it like you, thank you, bro, but no, Like,
(31:54):
I'm really trying to see more representation, not only in
the games, like as far as how I look as
a character and character creation, but even in the space
in general. Like content creators. Bro. It used to be
a point where I'll go to these events with these
VR companies and Bro's literally the only black person there.
I'm talking about not just content creators. I'm talking about
(32:15):
the developers, the cameramen, the I'm like, Okay, it feels
it felt a little off right now, being able to
motivate others to make VR content bring them in. It
feels good because now we have a little bit more
representation in the space as far as like people to look
up to for content streamers and VR content, Like shout
(32:36):
out to my boy Turbo Man. Me and Turbo tried
to make like build a team of content creators, right
but unfortunately they weren't originally content creators, so they didn't
take it as seriously. Yeah, we even gave them like
VR headsss and so, like we gave them the tools.
But shout out to Turbo because Turbo is the only
one who locked in and like Bro, I'm talking about
(32:58):
Turbo's live streams of NFL Pro Era. He would get
like thousands of people watching his live streams right now.
He's the only one with me from the group that
we made that like gets flown out to these events
like to meta to Bro was in the NBA All
Star Like he went to the NBA All Star Game
to host it.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Like the Hi.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Telling people make some content. The v our space where
so many opportunities, Like it's like, Bro, just do it.
Why not?
Speaker 2 (33:26):
We'll talk about opportunities for a second. For creators that
are looking to get started. I mean, you know, one
of the things I hear people talking about is, you
know GG six is coming out, Like there's all these
moments that are going to start happening. But for creators
that are getting started, like where should they focus that?
Are there certain types of games or should they focus
on building worlds?
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Like oh man, if you're if you're talking about creators
for virtual reality, Bro, my background is I'm an actor,
Like that's what Actually, that's my main thing. Like I
love virtual reality but one day and pop off on
the big screen cap and be a live actor superhero.
So everybody listening, just make sure y'all manifest that. But okay,
so honestly, it's really just get in there, have fun.
(34:03):
But the biggest thing is for me is quality. But
if you have like if you set that up and
just have a system that will already be there and
all you really have to focus on is having fun
and like being in the moment and proving right. I'll
see a lot of people try to make a video
like try. When I say try to make it like.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
It's like they sit down like, Okay, I'm gonna make
a video and it's gonna be funny.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Yeah, And that's not how it works all the time,
you know what I'm saying, because a lot of people
can tell when you try to do something, if something
is naturally funny, you're gonna you can tell if you
try to make a joke, you have to it's a
certain finesse you gotta do to make it seem like
it wasn't scripted right, because a lot of people don't
have that finesse. So I feel like in order to
(34:48):
be a content creator, be you. That's the biggest thing.
Be you. Don't try to be anyone else. Just play
the game and record it.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah, and just you know, show you again. Just make
it all that because you never know. I could tell
you you never know what's gonna be the thing exactly right,
and like you know, to that point, you know you're
one of your biggest pieces of content ever the whole
Star Wars thing, right, Like that just was something you
were playing around with.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Bro. Do you know I filmed for okay, my camera
Mike Canon, the os and fifty films for thirty minutes
every time, right, and then it stops for recording. So
I'll be like, okay, I got thirty minutes to record,
I'm gonna stop. I know I got thirty minutes, so
I'll check it. Bro. I had twenty five minutes left
on the camera, and I say, you know what, Bro,
And it's exactly why I say, do not try just
(35:30):
play the game. That video that got four million likes. Bro,
I spent twenty five minutes trying to film a video
playing the game. I looked at the camera. I said,
I got five more minutes. You know what, Bro, I'm
not it. I don't feel nothing I did, and none
of this cool, none of it viral. B. I hopped
in there and just played for five minutes, since I'm
(35:50):
just have fun. That video happened in that five minutes.
That five minutes of me just having fun change my life. Wow,
because look, Bro, I sat there for twenty five minutes
trying to do something cool. I'm like, I'm in here.
Let me dang. That wasn't smooth. I didn't go how
it goes. I took my hand, set off, I white
sweat off my head. I was like, bro, you know what, man,
(36:12):
let me just see how much time? Like I don't
even care. And that's literally why my face was so
like there was no emotion on my face because I
literally was mad. I filmed for twenty five minutes, and
so many comments on that video were like, bro, you
did it so heartless. Bro, you don't know how mad
I was when I had twenty five minutes of nothing.
So I was like, literally, what's funny? It's just like,
(36:35):
I think the anger of me not getting nothing that
twenty five minutes is the reason I was able to
smoothly decapitate that woman so easily, because that was the
smoothest you would think I practiced that. When you looked
at that, people are like, bro, put him in the
next Star Wars movie. They kept tagging Disney. I ain't
gonna lie to you. I thought my life was gonna
change with that video. You know what I mean? People
(36:56):
tag Disney. I said, oh snap, bro, it's over with
but yeah, but that message is just to say if
You're gonna make content. Please just be you, do you,
and it's gonna come out great. By I promise, I
don't overthink it. Just make the content. I promise you. Bro.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
If somebody that's deep in the space, what are you
excited about that's coming around the corner for.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
R neuralink and I'm just.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Completely I just want to be the computer. I just
want to blink and you know, something happens.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Honestly, I feel like when I'm excited for a man,
it's like I just want to see what's gonna come.
I don't even know if I'm anticipating anything anymore. It's
to the point where I like, ah, it's a blessing
a curse, right, so I kind of get everything when
it comes out. So it's hard to like anticipate something like, man,
I can't wait because I know it's gonna come. Yeah.
(37:48):
But if I'm talking about technology wise, it would have
to be like augmented reality. It would have to be
the Orion glasses that just were announced, like, it would
have to be seamlessly mixing both the reality. Like I
love VR, but if I do, if I would need
more from VR, maybe a better full body haptic suit.
Maybe I need y'all VR to send me my motion
(38:11):
simulator that I pay Bro. Bro, I'm not gonna lie.
I'll never do a Kickstarter again. Bro. I paid twenty
five hundred dollars for a motion simulator. It's a chair
you sit in when you drive, is swing you around,
you can jumps and stuff. You know all this. I'm like, man,
I just want more immersive things like that, Like I
feel like a motion simulator or like things to make
(38:34):
me feel more immersed, Like do you know what location
based for VR is? Location based VR is where you
do not use artificial low commotion. Artificial low commotions when
you use a joystick to move around, most people get
motion sick because when they use a joystick to move
around the in game body is moving, but their body
is staying still. So location based VR is where you're
(38:55):
in a big room or a room with enough space,
but you have markers or things relaying information to your headset,
so you just walk around the space freely. Then you
don't have to use artificial commotion. Now you feel like
you're one hundred percent in the game. The treadmill, you
see me on the catwalk. That's cool, But if you
use art if you use location based VR, like if
(39:18):
you're in a big space bro, I was playing the
zombie game with a team. We half the team was
split up to two elevators. We're on the Physically, we're
on the same floor right the first elevator went up,
second elevator went down. Do you know how that feels
in your mind? We're physically right here, but in VR
we're on two different floors. But because the way the
(39:40):
game is communicating with each other, we're never going to
run into each other, so you really feel like you're
one hundred percent in that world. So more for me
for VR, what I need is more location based games,
like even if it's for my apartment, if I want
to map my apartment out and then everything turns into
a game, because they do have games with simulated environments.
(40:02):
If you map out your bed, it'll turn the bed
to like a something in game, you know what I'm saying,
relative to that game. So that's gonna be the most
immersive things for VR, Like if you can incorporate your
environment with VR, moving around freely and having the VR
interact with your environment, that's gonna be more immersive because,
(40:22):
like imagine we're in here right now, that window turns
into a window. You and me are now in the
zombie apocalypse and we can shoot the zombies as they
come into the window. It turns your environment into the
virtual game. That's gonna be what I'm excited for.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
This is this is crazy, man. Before we before we
get out of here, man, just what's what's one piece
of advice you would just give people about getting started
in the VR space or like a creator that wants
to create in the VR space.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
If I'm going to give one piece of advice, it's
literally my motto is just do it like you Literally,
you can't overthink it. You can't the wall in a day,
but you can't lay a brick break by brick. Just
do it. Literally, just do it, don't overthink it. If
you already have a VR headset, just learn the recording settings.
You don't got to do there's any uh, there's recording
(41:13):
settings in the headset. You don't even have to learn
OBS or a separate broadcasting software. All the tools are
right there. Even if you don't have a camera. If
you have a phone, use your phone. If you're a webcam,
he's a webcam. Just do it. Just get started, because
eventually you will have all the tools you need because
you started, because you learned and made mistakes on the way,
(41:34):
you'll learn how to perfect it. So just start, Just
do it, No man, I love it.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
And tech Man before we get out of here. How
can they find a link in bio? How can they
How can they support you? How can they follow you
where they where they find you? You're not a hard
man to find, but I'm just saying you don't know.
How can they find you?
Speaker 1 (41:49):
On every platform? It is now tech Man Prime, tech Man.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Prime, tech Man Prime on all platforms.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Yes, well T E C H M A N P
are I am E juice.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
The tech Man tech Man Prime.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
This's been an amazing conversation. I've learned a lot. I'm
sure people have and I'm getting you because I need
when I'm head.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Says brother. Now, I got you. This was dope. I'm
not gonna lie man. I felt like this was a
real conversation. You feel me.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Hey man, there's a lot more that we could get into,
and we don't get into, man, but you know, for
right now, y'all, that's the pods and we out. Yes, sir, peas,
you've been listening the button Nomics and I'm your host,
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I'll see a lot of people try to make a video.
When I say try to make it like, it's like
they sit down.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna make a video and it's
gonna be funny.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Yeah, and it's that's not how it works all the time.
You know what I'm saying, because a lot of people
can tell when you try to do something, if something
is naturally funny, you can tell. In order to be
a content creator, be you. That's the biggest thing. Be you.
Don't try to be anyone else. Just play the game
and record it. That five minutes of me just having
(00:28):
fun change my life. I sat there for twenty five
minutes trying to do something cool. I'm like, I'm in here.
Let me Dang, that wasn't smooth. I didn't go how
it goes. I took my hand, set off, I white
you sweat off my head. I was like, bro, you
know what, man, let me just see how much time.
I don't even care. That message is just to say,
if you're gonna make content, please just be you. Do you,
and it's gonna come out great. But I promise I
(00:48):
don't overthink it. Just make the content. I promise you.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Bro, everybody, Welcome to another episode of the Button Nomics podcast.
I'm your host, Brandon Butler, founding CEO of Butter atl
and today we got a tech Man in the building,
tech Man himself, mister Julius Slater, Julie, How you doing, bro?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
I am blessed, I'm amazing, I feel great. I'm honored
to be here. I appreciate you for having me on.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Oh man, I appreciate you. I just I just saw
Get it clear. Now we're going by We're going by Juice,
We're going by tech Man. How would you like me
to refer to you during the rest of this commed?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
You know what, Today I'm feeling a bit techy, So okay,
let's let's keep it tech Man. Let's keep it tech Man.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I love it. I love it, sir. Now, I'm sure
people will know who you are. I'm sure they've seen
some of the videos and stuff like that. You know,
the viral uh you know Star Wars video. You know
what I'm saying, the VR stuff. But just so, so,
who is tech Man?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Tech Man is an anomaly. Tech Man is so much.
You get what I'm saying. Tech Man is an anime character,
a superhero anti hero. Tech Man is tech Man is
future me. Tech Man is everyone who I ever will be,
all into one personified into my content.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
That that is the deepest answer I've ever heard anybody. Again,
I'm just I'm just gonna assume he just plugged into
the You know, I don't know. Lawnmower Man might be
before your time, Bro, but I'm just saying, go look
up lawnmower Man. But I feel like you were plugged
into the Internet the same way lawnmower Man was and
scared the hell out of us back in the day.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
You just put me on. I'm gonna go look up.
I've never seen lawnmar Bro.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
It's crazy man. Like the short version of it, there's
this guy he's like developing VR and all this stuff.
This is like in the nineties lawnmower It's the movie
is called lawnmore Man. I think there's a there's definitely
a two. There might be a three. Also, the long
story short, there's this guy he works for this tech company.
He's developing like all these VR systems, and there's this
guy that's like the lawnmower man outside. He's like a
(02:44):
special needs dude, but he's like the lawnmower guy. So
the guy says, well, look, I think this stuff can
help anybody. So he basically gets the lawnmower guy to
gree to like start doing tests with the VR. Long
story short, lawnmower man like ends up becoming the Internet
like some kind of way. And this is in the nineties, bro,
Like some kind of what. He uploads his whole consciousness
(03:05):
like into the Internet and begins becoming like scotting it
and like killing people and taking over the world and
all that. And they can't they can't destroy him, Like
you never seen this move before.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
No, But I'm about to watch it tonight. Bro.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
The graphics now, you know, like those nineties Internet graphics,
you know what I mean. It looks like aol on crack.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
But I'm telling you're fine. I'm telling you it's the concept.
For me, it's the storyline, the plot that's lawnmower Man.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I'm surprised, Bro. You gotta see law more. Man. I'm
just telling you right now, you're gonna look at it
and you're gonna be cracking up. But it's also when
you see it, a lot of the stuff they're talking
about is already starting to happen. To day with just
again they're talking about VR and the internet and again
this is like back during AOL days.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
You know what I mean, I need that. I'm not sure.
I have to look that up, see where I can
find it's streaming on it something.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
It's the thing, man, But look bro like, so I
know you do all kinds of stuff in a tech
especially in the VR space though, right, Like, just for
those who don't know, man, explain kind of the state
of VR to day, because I think people know about
it at a high level. They think it's all just
about like throwing on the big oculus glasses and stuff
like that, but there's so much more beneath that's going on. Suggestion,
you are the VR expert, E've gonna bring our audience
(04:11):
up to you know, what's going on and what's happening
in the VR right now.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
The crazy thing about virtual reality is I don't believe
it's in It's still in its infancy. But it's still young, right,
It's still like especially like as a content creator is
still a niche, so like it's one of It's one
of those things where me, I believe that VR is
a future wearable technology in general. Right, it's only so
much more. We can update our phones too, it's only
(04:36):
you know, so with virtual reality, it gives you access
to literally an entirely new world. Like so for me,
when I look at virtual reality, it's literally a second reality.
It's a second world, right. So there's so much that
you can do within virtual reality other than playing video games.
Right now, they have like simulations where you can do
(04:57):
open heart surgery, or you can do simulations to improve
whatever career path you're on without anything hindering your learning process,
you know, Like they have de escalation situations for police officers.
You'll get in virtual virtual reality and try to de
(05:17):
escalate a situation. Right now, the state of VR is
in such a I think it's having a boom right now, Like,
especially in the gaming side, this is a first year
where in a long time where there are a lot
of people excited about the games coming out, Like this fall,
you got games like Batman, Arkham Shadow. You've got major
ips coming to virtual reality like Metro. These are things
(05:41):
that like people who aren't really used to VR, they're
now able to find a reason to get in because
usually people will look at VR as a gimmick, like
why would I want to put this on my head,
to like be by myself doing something somewhere, which isn't
a lot of people don't look at it for the
adventure or what you can do inside of virtual reality.
They don't look at the imagination or how much you
(06:04):
can actually do in virtual reality. So now in twenty
twenty four, I believe we're taking the steps to make
it more mainstream, but it in the hands of more people,
like especially with like the Metaquest three is coming out.
That headset is only two hundred ninety nine dollars, right,
and for me to say only two ninety nine Back
in twenty sixteen, in order to even get into virtual reality,
(06:26):
you needed an eight hundred dollars VR headset along with
a two thousand dollars computer. So now that you can
get a high level of virtual reality with high graphics,
good fidelity for three hundred dollars, it's like we're literally
stepping into the future right now.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, And I think and just for those folks that
don't know, I mean, you know, we talk, we're gonna
talk about a lot about VR. But also there's what
we call AR, right, so RS augmented reality. We're almost
kind of like laying a tech layer or something visual
on top of the real world in front of you.
So for example, I mean, I know you got the
glasses on right now. They're not fully ar but hypothetically,
you know, if they were, you could be looking at
(07:03):
me and it could be literally in your lenses like
show you like my social profile, like information about me
versus VR. Is you actually putting on the glasses themselves
and being from completely immersed in the experience.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
And I don't think people even understand the possibilities of
augmented reality, right, Like you say, I have these glasses on,
and you want to create the clothing brand that interacts
with augmented reality glasses. Say, right now you have on
this black hoodie, but then you have a three M
logo or something on it, right, the glasses interact with it.
(07:35):
Now you have on whatever your virtual avatar once yeah
in my eyes right, Say, for instance, you have Pokemon Go.
When that craze came out and everybody was on their
phones running around, imagine now you don't have to be
distracted holding your phone up. Now you can just walk around,
turn the app on in the background, you go for
a walk or a jog. You see a Pokemon run
across you, you can just catch it. Now with augmented reality,
(07:59):
the virtual world is seamlessly connected with the real world.
So that's what I'm excited for. Virtual reality is amazing, yes,
but once we're able to seamlessly connect both the virtual
world and the real world together with good fidelity, occlusion
and everything like that is going to be a different
type of world.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Oh absolutely, It's going to bring a whole new layer
to just everything you interact with. I mean, I remember
being at the park and seeing groups of people playing
Pokemon Go, and it's like, what are they doing? They're
all holding their phones and kind of running around, you know,
it's almost getting hit by cars they go down to
the street. But again that's because you're you're interacting with this,
but you're looking down at the screen, and that screen
is showing you the world, and all of a sudden,
that stuff is literally overlaid right in front of your eyes.
(08:40):
It becomes, you know, fully seenless and fully integrated. What
I want to know is how did you even get
started in this stuff?
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Man? Man? You know what's so funny? I okay, I'm
not going to tell the whole story, but I'm gonna
take it back. So I was pretty I was pretty
good in high school.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Right.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I graduated thirty six GPA. Right. I went to college,
but college ironically was not for me. Went for like
one year, but I personally feel that one year is
literally why I'm here now because on campus, AT and
T pulled up and they just had these little cardboard
boxes that you fold into a VR head cardboard. Yeah right,
(09:18):
that that moment literally changed my life because when I
put it on my face and you could touch a
button to have your character move on your phone. But
with me, I was like, as I pressed the button,
what if I walk with it? Let me see how
that feels. Right, So I was like, oh wow, Like
I'm here then, bro I just locked in, did research, research, research,
(09:41):
started working. I really didn't wasn't able to afford or
get into VR because I was a broke college kid
until the could goal came out. That was like two
hundred dollars, but it had one controller and you only
had three directions of movement. You only could move your
head up and the right to left, up and down right,
So that was cool. Started playing with that, but then
(10:04):
I got into I did a focus group, which is ironic,
and they sent me the Medoquest one. I was gonna
get it anyway, but they sent it to me for free. Right.
I was like, ray, I can just make content and
do stuff and get stuff for free. So I started
making a little content. It was doing decent. But then
twenty twenty one, I said, I was listening to Gary
Vee and I had a few friends just saying, bro,
(10:26):
just why are gonna get on TikTok. I said, you
know what, I'm gonna try it out. March ninth, twenty
twenty one, I posted my first TikTok on VR content
viral already, Right in a year, I was at one
million followers on.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
TikTok million one year.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah, and in exactly one year. So March nine, twenty
twenty one to March nine, twenty twenty two, I had
a million followers cause I was just locked in, like
I'm talking about, I was posting three tiktoks a day
like cause I was like, oh, it's thirty second videos.
I'm funny, let me just And I was even trying,
if I'm being honest, I was just making gameplay and
I was like, I naturally play the game good. I
(11:06):
posted them and they was going viral. One video got
four million likes m and then from there, I like
that same video I reposted like once or twice a
year and it go viral every time.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Now we'll get into that a second, but I just
want to know what's what's the experience like of going
from zero to one million in a year? Like, how
does that? How does your life change over the over
the course of that process.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Man, that's a deep question, because look, I ain't gonna
lie to you. It's a lot of ups and downs mentally, because,
like one, because it's so easy. At first, I didn't
know how to really place my value because I was like, man,
it was so easy. I'm pretty sure everybody can do it,
(11:48):
even me. But then everybody was like, bro, you're inspiring me.
I'm gonna do it and it couldn't be replicated, right,
So then I'm like, okay, how do I like? It's
the mental part is trying to figure out your value
when it comes to business, And at first I wasn't
a businessman. If I'm being honest, I was getting into
it just like, Okay, it's a thirty second video. This
(12:10):
amount of money is cool. I'm just take it. Right, Yeah,
I'm living like I don't got to work, you know
what I'm saying. So mentally it's like you really get
you got to learn a lot. You gotta learn a lot,
and then could you with the fast growth comes people
and businesses that want to work with you, and a
lot of a lot of the times for me, a
(12:31):
few of the times they didn't have good intentions at
the end of the day. Right, So it's the it's hard,
it's it's it's weird. It's a weird place because you
grow in a year and you like, dang, bro, like
I'm him, like I kind of made it. You feel me,
feel like you made it, got the condo in Miami,
even me in a year, you feel me. So I'm like, okay,
the ups and down. So it's really it takes like
(12:53):
it's a loaded question, bro, because it feels great, but
then it's like what comes with it?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
No, Look, look now you know I've I've grown a platform.
I mean we haven't grown into a million, but I
can definitely understand the point of what comes with growing
something and kind of becoming a person and all of
a sudden everybody kind of coming at you and he
trying to figure out what their intentions are, what they want,
because it ain't like they just coming at you for
their health.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
You know what I'm saying, because y'all wasn't messing with you,
y'all messing with tech man.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
You know.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
So it's like it's like you start wondering, like what
the objective is on top of that, you're trying to
figure out, Yeah, how do you value yourself in the market?
Like am I undervalue myself? My overvalue myself? Like getting
more comfortable asking for certain things?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Right?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
You know again just for the context, right, like when
you start start happening, like are we talking three figure deil?
Like six figure deils? Two figures? You gotta be specific
just so there's some broad specifics man, Like what happens?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, I'm not gonna lie tell you
around like twenty two I was touching like six figures. Wow, yeah,
I ain't gonna because like I ain't gonna lie to
tell you like I got twelve on my neck, but
like I was. But that's what I'm saying. That's what
a mental Because you're young, you start making money, you
(14:05):
start and then you got to balance it out right,
and you gotta it's the maturity that comes with it.
And then it's like spreading yourself in the market. Yeah,
because I ain't gonna lie. I was doing so great
on TikTok. I didn't really I didn't really spread myself
too far on everything else, right, but yeah, it was
it was a it was some good because I'm like,
I ain't gonna cap like for thirty second video. At
(14:28):
times you definitely was getting four figures per thirty second video.
Oh that's crazy, you know what I'm saying, Like, cause
you it was. It was at a point where like,
I ain't gonna lie, bro. It was at a point
where on TikTok you thought you saw VR. You literally
just saw tech man. Literally that's all you saw. It
was a point where VR just tech man, tech man,
tech man. Now it's like, I'm at the driver is
(14:50):
to make that everywhere YouTube, Twitch, Instagram like tech man,
tech man, tech man. My what's funny. Back in I
had a esports team had picked me up and our
slogan for me was like the face of VR. And
that's still the goal, you feel me, that's still we're
still working on it because ain't gonna lie. It was
(15:10):
so back in like my heyday, back when I was like,
I was like ignorant back but I was like I
was the face of VRE I'm talking about, and I
was moving like it too. I'm talking about. I was
at events I'm talking about. You can't think of VR
if I seen tech ma I' talking about. I was
on ESPN Lebron James like my post. You know what
(15:32):
I'm saying. I'm on ESPN Fox, I'm on Bleacher Report
reposting me. I'm like, bro, I thought I was gonna
be on ESPN for football. I'm on ESPN for VR.
You feel me? So? Look, of course my head got
a little big at one point. But it's like you,
you you go through it and you understand how you
gotta how you gotta navigate it.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Well, yeah, that's what I was going to ask too,
I mean, and you know, just understanding how you manage that?
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Right?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Did you start looking for, you know, a team or
like mentors and people around you just to kind of
give you some con because again, at that point, you
got to start asking yourself like who can I trust?
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Man?
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Who's got my best interest in mind? Right, I'm sure
kind of comes up. So how did you kind of
manage on that side to make sure you were taking
care of the business of tech man also so that
you could be sustainable.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Row row Row, I don't even know where acting that is,
but brow when it comes to business and trust, bro literally,
I feel like I just got comfortable with business and
trusts like three four five months ago when I signed
with my current manager, because now it's like I have
(16:46):
a manager specifically for me, right, because at first, like
I said, VR is a niche, So at first it
was like people from like development teams are like different
places in the industry trying to make like an agency
or something and try to get other companies like, hey,
we have these creators. But that's not what they did,
you know what I'm saying, that's not what you do.
(17:07):
But you're trying to do. I understand you're trying to
figure out a place in the market because of the
growing market, there's so many possibilities of VR. But on
a business standpoint, bro, like, because the industry is new,
and like entertainment in the industry especially is new with VR,
I'm just not feeling like business wise because my manager
(17:27):
now has done worked with creators other than like virtual
reality stuff, right, and that's really my whole goal. Like, yeah,
being at the top of a niche is cool, but
I ain't gonna lie. I'm trying to be at the
top of like everything, if you know what I'm saying. Like, yeah,
it's cool to be the top VR gamer, but it's
also way better to be the top gamer.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
So it's like business wise, bro, going through so much.
I doesn't been in my time. I've been ft over
you feel me, yeah, by like a few companies. But
right now, yeah, this is the first time I kind
of feel comfortable, like business wise doing this. And I've
been doing this full time really since I bro, it
(18:09):
was ironic. I've been doing this four times since the
day I started it. But but yeah, well about three
four yeah, about three years, four years. I'm just now
starting to feel comfortable business wise.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
That's dope. Man. Well, I mean it's a process, bro,
But like, tell me about these VR worlds, right, So,
like we talk, you talk about VR, like where is
all this stuff being built at? Like where do these
where do these places exist? That for those that don't.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Know what's crazy? Okay, first, I mean, what's crazy. Right now,
you actually can build a world in VR. You can
get in there and physically be there, build it, mold it,
see the side you want it like we done took
steps so far into the future. And my well, actually yeah,
because if you knew about VR since twenty sixteen and
you like see the steps is how far we can
(18:54):
be Like dang, a lot of people just look at
it now if you just get interested in VR. I
was like, that's a cool look give me but bro
long way, Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Originally, well
even right now, still you can build worlds in Blender,
transform the unity, put in assets like that, build them
on a computer. A lot of these things are it's
really complete imagination. It's like, in my eyes, it's like
(19:14):
building Legos. I get in Blender, like because I'm working
on some VR projects right now, I get in Blender.
It's literally like Legos because you can download asset packs
community to for VR hands if you weren't hand tracking.
For me personally, from what I've been seeing, I personally
don't have to do a lot of coding because a
lot of things are like in there for you for
plug and play. Yeah, so on my end, it's pretty simple.
(19:38):
It's really just imagination and how much time you want
to put into it and.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
When you build these worlds out, like you know, we've
talked about, you know, creating assets and things exist in
these worlds, right, Like how do you monetize these worlds?
And like how do you make it? How do you
get people in there? And how do you monetize on
top of you know, having an audience inside that VR
world because you look, you was talking about some crazy
stuff you will be doing in VR.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Okay, so okay, okay, okay. If I'm going to be
blunt specifically with if I'm going to build something or
like a freelancer that's not going to build like a
game to put on a platform. If you want to
build like your own world to put in like a
social platform like VR Chatter Horizon, it's unlimited, like if
you you can monetize it however you want to, Like
however you would think to monetize in real life, you
(20:20):
can monetize that way in VR. So the project I'm
working on started off as a one to one replica
of my apartment bucket. Right, I was like, bro, I
can just build the whole building. So because it's pretty
simple once you get like the tools and Blender and
you understand how to make your workflow easier. So I
(20:40):
just got a copy of my of the floor plan
of the building and literally just make it one to
one and then you put in all the assets you want.
So once the bases built, the floor plan and the walls,
the everything is like that, you can design to have
you want to. So if we want to make it futuristic,
we just overlay futuristic materials. We add in some objects
(21:04):
that will give you the feel of a dystopian or
futuristic feel, however you want to do it. So that
being said, now that I've built the whole building with
my community, if I want to, if I have a
Patreon or something, someone could literally rent out one of
those apartment buildings to do and live their virtual life
in because it's a whole community and it's literally like
a second life. In VR. There are virtual bars where
(21:26):
you can literally your character will literally get drunk when
you drink. It's hilarious, like you can and you have
to watch it because if you get too drunk you'll
black out. It's you're laughing. But like when you pop
up to this world. You know it starts, it starts
getting but like no, but like you literally have to
walk up to the door if you don't have your
(21:47):
idea or tell them your birthday. If you're a child,
you cannot get in in VR. Yeah, like it's policed.
It's real life. Bro. I had a birthday party in
VR and people would think like, oh real, but no, Bro,
I had a birthday part in VR. They like cleared
out a whole world, like nobody could get in, not
a whole world. Yeah, they cleared out a whole world. Yeah,
it's hilarious, bro, it was a whole world. It was
(22:08):
like a club world, so like you couldn't get in
unless Like I said, it was cool because at first
we had this one guy get in and he started
like just yelling racial slurs because knew it was tag
Man's birthday. But it's funny because they put a bomb
on him and he blew up and kicked him out.
Yeah that's what I'm saying. Like it's policing in here, bro,
Like we got security. Bro, it's strip clubs in here. Bro.
(22:30):
Look bro, look there's Look when you look at VR
and you look at the commercials, you just see people
with the head sit on and the controllers moving their
head in their hands. Right, there's levels. Bro, you got
full body tracking. You put the trackers on your hips
and your ankles. Right now, you can move your entire
body in VR. You can kick if you're in a
fighting game, you can kick somebody, punch somebody, step on
somebody when you're in a social VR game. Right. They
(22:54):
have strip clubs that they build out that you cannot
get in unless you are I got whatever age some
of them eighteen and twenty one. But they really check
like you cannot get in here if you're not of
age because they are a real woman in full body
tracking dancing to get paid in virtual reality.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Let me get this straight. So I go in the
virtual reality world. Yeah, I can go to VR Magic City. Yeah, right,
but I can't get in because it's got a bouncer
at the front.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
You gottach my, I d Yeah, no, you can look.
So you're gonna get a portal. Go in the portal.
You're gonna go to the world. Once you're in the world,
there'll be a door with the bouncer, and so.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
You gotta show up and then you go in and
there literally because yeah, I think people think that just
VR is just the headsets. But to your point, there's like,
you know, what you call haptic suits and like the
gloves and you said pen ankle things right where you
can feel and move right.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Don't get me started on the haptic suits at the
strip club. Oh but my bad, bad. I'm let you finish.
I let you finish, my bad.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
But it's just interesting to me, man, Like, I think
that like people really you don't understand that these this
world kind of exists, and they think that it's maybe
just like some small, little niche community, right, but there
are millions of people that are interacting with he thinks
from across the world.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Yes, there are love stories of people who I've never met.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Physically married in VR or something like run.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Literally proposed married in VR, and I'm like, bo, you
know what, it's each his own.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
But no, man, no, it's yeah. I think people don't understand, like,
you know, again, like how how big this really is?
Like with the scale, it's also possible to your point,
you know, you're talking about how you can create you know,
assets and jewelry and things that people actually buy, you know,
in VR, they you know, have to customize their avatars
and all this stuff. But then even though it's VR money,
(24:45):
that money has got that's real money too.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Oh bo bo bo bo, What do you mean VR money?
All of this is USD. What you mean you can like? Okay,
So I know a guy named Hardy, he makes worlds
in Horizon. He made he made a Hardy coin that
if you want to go inside of his world and
buy some assets or something, go buy Go purchase some
(25:08):
Hardy coins. So now you have your Indian coins that
were converted from USD. So it's hilarious because it's like
all you got to do is build the popularity of
the world. Yeah, because like if I tell you right now,
hey brother, look, I'm selling some tech coins if you
want to buy like a bundle for ten dollars and
come to my world and like do some stuff. But
(25:28):
I'd be dope. You'll be like why would I do that?
Because like I don't know the world, Like I don't
know what you're doing. So it's the marketing behind it.
So it's building out the world, doing the content behind it.
Doing like so even with the world I'm doing, everything
I'm building is a part of marketing, right, So tech
Man is going to have a comic book. I'm working
on a comic book. When I get to the point,
(25:50):
I'm going to have it animated. Some stuff I'm building
is like stuff that's going to be inside of the
world of the tech Men world. So even when I
do merch, when I make like clothing, it'll be clothing
that's worn from the characters in the comics. It's not
going to be like a picture of tech Man on
a shirt. It's going to be like the brand. For example, marketing.
If you watch Narbito, you see they wear the headbands
(26:12):
all the time. If I go to the storm by
a headband, I'm with them. I'm a part of the Klan.
Now you feel me. I'm there, I have the nostalgia.
So with me, the marketing is different. It's like everything
isn't calculated, it's together. So like if you get in
VR and go to this world, you're going to be
in the world that you had read in the comic
book or seen in the tech Man show. So now
you get to actually be there with tech Man.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
And just again just to again give context for the
folks that understand, like when you say worlds like again,
these are just completely immersive experiences. So a world could
be anything from to your point, a replication of your
apartment building, right, you know, and that is the world.
That could be the whole world and within itself, now
in each one of those rooms there could be a
totally different experience.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Well, my specific world is going to literally be a
world like the building is.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
In the world. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, too, right,
But I mean I'm just saying like, on one level,
a world could literally just be a building but all
these things in it, right, Or it could be literally
a world in which there are many buildings in many
places and many things you could do.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Right.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
What are some just like really unique worlds again, because
I think people think about you know, we talked about
the Strip club, like, what's like a unique world that
you've seen, or it's just really interesting that somebody put together.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
One of the dopest worlds is there's this world you
teleport in and it's just like a vast ocean like
beyond where you can see, right, but it's only up
to like ankle level, so it kind of feels like
you're I guess it would feel like an afterlifeish type
of feel. But then there's a giant tree in the middle.
It's a treehouse. You go into treehouse and then you
(27:44):
can press like a there's a screen you can choose
from and then the space around you will turn to
whatever ambient a visual you choose. So it feels very
like psychedelic, and it can like put you on like
such a level of peace because it's like calm, binurobeats,
(28:07):
frequencies and things like that, where it's like you put
you in such a space of zen and meditation. And
then there are different worlds where you can literally go
on like scuba dive or you'll just sit there and
ride and you'll go underwater see giant wells or sharks
and stuff like that. A lot of worlds are like
(28:28):
very I guess I would say trippy, dystopian futuristic, make
you feel like you're in a movie. Everything like Ready
Player one, everything Ready Player one. Yeah, Like it's really
hard to say because you see so much like what
can you pull out? It's like I really want people
(28:50):
to just go and see, you know, like one day
I might see if I might get like headsets and
just have like a little tour, like y'all come with me,
let's all go on a virtual for a tour in VR.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
And then look, we need we need to do a
butter VR tour. Man, let's go hook it up bring
some people. Now, that's but that's a good point though.
Like so, say somebody's listening to this conversation right now
and they're like, man, you know what tech man is Dope,
I want to do that too. How do they go
from zero to one? They want to get started? They
don't have no VR stuff. All they got is a
laptop and a nice internet connection at home. What's what's
(29:24):
the first thing they should do?
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Zero one, zero to one to VR content creation.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Or just even just experience in VR. But then I'll
also be a content creational tone.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Man, first, if you just want to experience a VR. Look,
this isn't even because you can go in the link
in my bio and then get a discount. This isn't
even why I'm expressing that. I'm not even going to
say this because you can get a thirty dollars gift
card when you use the link in my bio. You
know what I'm saying. Sure, that's not why I'm saying this.
What I'm gonna say is because it's affordable it's only
(29:52):
two ninety nine, and then like, literally the graphics in
the Metaquest three are amazing. I'm not gonna lie, like
I'm I'm not even joking. Like if I was going
to recommend a headset, it would be the meda Quest
three because of the process and power. It has a
headphone jack, YadA YadA. But if you just want to
get into VR, the medic Quest three s is two
(30:13):
ninety nine and it's literally as almost as strong as
the Quest three. It literally it just has different lenses.
So I mean, I would I recommend, I tell everyone
get the medic Quest three. Yes, it's the best entry
level VR. You don't need a PC because everything comes
on the headset. But if you do have a PC headset,
you can stream your PC games wirelessly to the Quest three,
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So then you'll be able to experience like very high
quality virtual reality games wirelessly, because my biggest thing is
I don't like wires when I play VR.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yeah, you want to be able to move around like
I've seen you even have like the thing you can walk.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
On and all that. Yeah, that's one of my sponsors
to the catwalk. Yeah, and I'm not saying like, if
you want one. You can hit the link in my
bio and get one hundred and thirty dollars off. But
just theoretically, if you did want one, could get a
discount by using the link in my body.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I like, how you just see this what I'm talking about. This,
this is the influential aspect of it coming in and
I'm one here for One of the things we were
talking about too, was representation VR. Yes, right, Like, what's
(31:27):
your perspective on that? Because I know, again I've seen
stuff and again you look down and you're like, man,
these hands all like my hands, But like you're working
on that stuff too, aren't you.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yes, I'm trying to. Well, one, just being a voice.
My biggest thing is being a voice because you know,
some people in the VR content creative community, the people
have someone called me the Jackie Robinson of VR. But
do you know how much pressure that is? I'm like, bro,
I'm just making content. They're like, man, we don't see
no brothers doing it like you, thank you, bro, but no, Like,
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I'm really trying to see more representation, not only in
the games, like as far as how I look as
a character and character creation, but even in the space
in general. Like content creators. Bro. It used to be
a point where I'll go to these events with these
VR companies and Bro's literally the only black person there.
I'm talking about not just content creators. I'm talking about
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the developers, the cameramen, the I'm like, Okay, it feels
it felt a little off right now, being able to
motivate others to make VR content bring them in. It
feels good because now we have a little bit more
representation in the space as far as like people to look
up to for content streamers and VR content, Like shout
(32:36):
out to my boy Turbo Man. Me and Turbo tried
to make like build a team of content creators, right
but unfortunately they weren't originally content creators, so they didn't
take it as seriously. Yeah, we even gave them like
VR headsss and so, like we gave them the tools.
But shout out to Turbo because Turbo is the only
one who locked in and like Bro, I'm talking about
(32:58):
Turbo's live streams of NFL Pro Era. He would get
like thousands of people watching his live streams right now.
He's the only one with me from the group that
we made that like gets flown out to these events
like to meta to Bro was in the NBA All
Star Like he went to the NBA All Star Game
to host it.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Like the Hi.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Telling people make some content. The v our space where
so many opportunities, Like it's like, Bro, just do it.
Why not?
Speaker 2 (33:26):
We'll talk about opportunities for a second. For creators that
are looking to get started. I mean, you know, one
of the things I hear people talking about is, you
know GG six is coming out, Like there's all these
moments that are going to start happening. But for creators
that are getting started, like where should they focus that?
Are there certain types of games or should they focus
on building worlds?
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Like oh man, if you're if you're talking about creators
for virtual reality, Bro, my background is I'm an actor,
Like that's what Actually, that's my main thing. Like I
love virtual reality but one day and pop off on
the big screen cap and be a live actor superhero.
So everybody listening, just make sure y'all manifest that. But okay,
so honestly, it's really just get in there, have fun.
(34:03):
But the biggest thing is for me is quality. But
if you have like if you set that up and
just have a system that will already be there and
all you really have to focus on is having fun
and like being in the moment and proving right. I'll
see a lot of people try to make a video
like try. When I say try to make it like.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
It's like they sit down like, Okay, I'm gonna make
a video and it's gonna be funny.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Yeah, And that's not how it works all the time,
you know what I'm saying, because a lot of people
can tell when you try to do something, if something
is naturally funny, you're gonna you can tell if you
try to make a joke, you have to it's a
certain finesse you gotta do to make it seem like
it wasn't scripted right, because a lot of people don't
have that finesse. So I feel like in order to
(34:48):
be a content creator, be you. That's the biggest thing.
Be you. Don't try to be anyone else. Just play
the game and record it.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah, and just you know, show you again. Just make
it all that because you never know. I could tell
you you never know what's gonna be the thing exactly right,
and like you know, to that point, you know you're
one of your biggest pieces of content ever the whole
Star Wars thing, right, Like that just was something you
were playing around with.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Bro. Do you know I filmed for okay, my camera
Mike Canon, the os and fifty films for thirty minutes
every time, right, and then it stops for recording. So
I'll be like, okay, I got thirty minutes to record,
I'm gonna stop. I know I got thirty minutes, so
I'll check it. Bro. I had twenty five minutes left
on the camera, and I say, you know what, Bro,
And it's exactly why I say, do not try just
(35:30):
play the game. That video that got four million likes. Bro,
I spent twenty five minutes trying to film a video
playing the game. I looked at the camera. I said,
I got five more minutes. You know what, Bro, I'm
not it. I don't feel nothing I did, and none
of this cool, none of it viral. B. I hopped
in there and just played for five minutes, since I'm
(35:50):
just have fun. That video happened in that five minutes.
That five minutes of me just having fun change my life. Wow,
because look, Bro, I sat there for twenty five minutes
trying to do something cool. I'm like, I'm in here.
Let me dang. That wasn't smooth. I didn't go how
it goes. I took my hand, set off, I white
sweat off my head. I was like, bro, you know what, man,
(36:12):
let me just see how much time? Like I don't
even care. And that's literally why my face was so
like there was no emotion on my face because I
literally was mad. I filmed for twenty five minutes, and
so many comments on that video were like, bro, you
did it so heartless. Bro, you don't know how mad
I was when I had twenty five minutes of nothing.
So I was like, literally, what's funny? It's just like,
(36:35):
I think the anger of me not getting nothing that
twenty five minutes is the reason I was able to
smoothly decapitate that woman so easily, because that was the
smoothest you would think I practiced that. When you looked
at that, people are like, bro, put him in the
next Star Wars movie. They kept tagging Disney. I ain't
gonna lie to you. I thought my life was gonna
change with that video. You know what I mean? People
(36:56):
tag Disney. I said, oh snap, bro, it's over with
but yeah, but that message is just to say if
You're gonna make content. Please just be you, do you,
and it's gonna come out great. By I promise, I
don't overthink it. Just make the content. I promise you. Bro.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
If somebody that's deep in the space, what are you
excited about that's coming around the corner for.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
R neuralink and I'm just.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Completely I just want to be the computer. I just
want to blink and you know, something happens.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Honestly, I feel like when I'm excited for a man,
it's like I just want to see what's gonna come.
I don't even know if I'm anticipating anything anymore. It's
to the point where I like, ah, it's a blessing
a curse, right, so I kind of get everything when
it comes out. So it's hard to like anticipate something like, man,
I can't wait because I know it's gonna come. Yeah.
(37:48):
But if I'm talking about technology wise, it would have
to be like augmented reality. It would have to be
the Orion glasses that just were announced, like, it would
have to be seamlessly mixing both the reality. Like I
love VR, but if I do, if I would need
more from VR, maybe a better full body haptic suit.
Maybe I need y'all VR to send me my motion
(38:11):
simulator that I pay Bro. Bro, I'm not gonna lie.
I'll never do a Kickstarter again. Bro. I paid twenty
five hundred dollars for a motion simulator. It's a chair
you sit in when you drive, is swing you around,
you can jumps and stuff. You know all this. I'm like, man,
I just want more immersive things like that, Like I
feel like a motion simulator or like things to make
(38:34):
me feel more immersed, Like do you know what location
based for VR is? Location based VR is where you
do not use artificial low commotion. Artificial low commotions when
you use a joystick to move around, most people get
motion sick because when they use a joystick to move
around the in game body is moving, but their body
is staying still. So location based VR is where you're
(38:55):
in a big room or a room with enough space,
but you have markers or things relaying information to your headset,
so you just walk around the space freely. Then you
don't have to use artificial commotion. Now you feel like
you're one hundred percent in the game. The treadmill, you
see me on the catwalk. That's cool, But if you
use art if you use location based VR, like if
(39:18):
you're in a big space bro, I was playing the
zombie game with a team. We half the team was
split up to two elevators. We're on the Physically, we're
on the same floor right the first elevator went up,
second elevator went down. Do you know how that feels
in your mind? We're physically right here, but in VR
we're on two different floors. But because the way the
(39:40):
game is communicating with each other, we're never going to
run into each other, so you really feel like you're
one hundred percent in that world. So more for me
for VR, what I need is more location based games,
like even if it's for my apartment, if I want
to map my apartment out and then everything turns into
a game, because they do have games with simulated environments.
(40:02):
If you map out your bed, it'll turn the bed
to like a something in game, you know what I'm saying,
relative to that game. So that's gonna be the most
immersive things for VR, Like if you can incorporate your
environment with VR, moving around freely and having the VR
interact with your environment, that's gonna be more immersive because,
(40:22):
like imagine we're in here right now, that window turns
into a window. You and me are now in the
zombie apocalypse and we can shoot the zombies as they
come into the window. It turns your environment into the
virtual game. That's gonna be what I'm excited for.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
This is this is crazy, man. Before we before we
get out of here, man, just what's what's one piece
of advice you would just give people about getting started
in the VR space or like a creator that wants
to create in the VR space.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
If I'm going to give one piece of advice, it's
literally my motto is just do it like you Literally,
you can't overthink it. You can't the wall in a day,
but you can't lay a brick break by brick. Just
do it. Literally, just do it, don't overthink it. If
you already have a VR headset, just learn the recording settings.
You don't got to do there's any uh, there's recording
(41:13):
settings in the headset. You don't even have to learn
OBS or a separate broadcasting software. All the tools are
right there. Even if you don't have a camera. If
you have a phone, use your phone. If you're a webcam,
he's a webcam. Just do it. Just get started, because
eventually you will have all the tools you need because
you started, because you learned and made mistakes on the way,
(41:34):
you'll learn how to perfect it. So just start, Just
do it, No man, I love it.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
And tech Man before we get out of here. How
can they find a link in bio? How can they
How can they support you? How can they follow you
where they where they find you? You're not a hard
man to find, but I'm just saying you don't know.
How can they find you?
Speaker 1 (41:49):
On every platform? It is now tech Man Prime, tech Man.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Prime, tech Man Prime on all platforms.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Yes, well T E C H M A N P
are I am E juice.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
The tech Man tech Man Prime.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
This's been an amazing conversation. I've learned a lot. I'm
sure people have and I'm getting you because I need
when I'm head.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Says brother. Now, I got you. This was dope. I'm
not gonna lie man. I felt like this was a
real conversation. You feel me.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Hey man, there's a lot more that we could get into,
and we don't get into, man, but you know, for
right now, y'all, that's the pods and we out. Yes, sir, peas,
you've been listening the button Nomics and I'm your host,
Brandon Butler, comments feedback. Want to be a part of
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