November 10, 2021 • 49 mins
Wow, a lady dies twice. Oops! And a socialite in Texas who invested in her local area wax museum is murdered.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
School of Humans. Wowee wowee wow wow wow. It's another
episode of Cadaver Gals, the show where we talk about
all the ways people have died throughout history. I mean
the weird ways. They're weird ways people and also sad
and also sometimes other types of ways they're dying in ways.
I'm one of your hosts, Gabby, along with Taylor Hi
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and Nika Hi and credible great highs everyone today, great work. Today.
We're gonna hear all sorts of things. There's gonna be
a lady who dies not once, but twice. I guess
she had to stick around or whatever. And I'm achiever, sorry,
honestly and overachiever. Achiever. She's like, you know, twenty percent
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of a cat. Her life wasn't done yet. Another hashtag
girl boss probably, And we're also going to hear about
a Texas millionaire who was murdered and also owned a
wax museum. Um, which is always freaky and fun. Some
cool hot sugar warnings for today. We got murder, poison, suicide,
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being buried alive, arson, and just wax figures that are creepy.
So um. Cue the music. Enjoy this episode. Be there
in just a second Okay, I meet you on the
other side of the music by lamp we st accordion music.
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We're silly, Everyone's silly. Um We're silly, and we will
never not try to do the theme music. We're just
very predictable, I think, and hot. Nika's always hot. Geez lowise.
But you'll also last time told us smelly and stinky
or however many episodes. But Taylor has a very great
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eyeliner on today, So you win the eyeliner prize that
I was going to give out. Yeah, Lately, Taylor's been
looking really good at meetings and it's making me want
to step my game up and I feel threatened. It's
because I've been going into the office and seeing people
from the outside world, which occurred to me. I think
it's actually pretty funny because it's not like like it's
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not like I'm doing it for my co workers. I'm
doing it for the people in the building that I
work in, you know, across, so it's very strange. Anyway. Yeah, well,
I'm setting my alarm for you know, nine to fifty eight.
I wake up and then go to my ten o'clock meeting,
and you know, it's always ten o one when I arrive,
you know, because there's traffic from my bed. It's a shameful.
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It's a fishing shameful. It's efficient. Okay, Well, I guess
we should talk about death. I suppose, um, since that
is the premise of the show, and Taylor is gonna
tell us the tale of the hashtag girl boss who
died twice. Okay, Yeah, so we're gonna talk about a
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lady named Marjorie McCall. Marjorie. Bad name. Sorry, Oh you
think it's a great name, Marjorie, Marjora. That sounds like
a soap opera name. Marjorie sounds like a Southern ghost.
I like it. That's wrong with a Southern ghost, Nika, Yeah,
nothing's wrong with that. I just like not ideal name,
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you know. Oh, Shania is the ideal name for me. Okay, okay,
well you names what? Okay? Marjorie McCall. She was an
Irish lass wow see, married to a man named John McCall,
who was a doctor, and they had a few kids.
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As far as I know, they're a one big, happy family.
Until one day, as it would happen in seventeen oh five,
various illnesses would just take over and they didn't know
how to get better from them. They didn't have the medicine,
modern medicine that we have today. And so poor Marjorie
got some sort of cold and died. Oh mummers and okay,
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coming up on the next section though. Okay, So her
husband a doctor, he was like, science is real. So
he's like, we need to bury her quickly so her
corpse doesn't get everyone else. Six So he's like, we
need six feet apart from her quickly. So six feet yeah,
six feet under. You know, I thought we were doing
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a six foot quarantine situation. But you mean yes, under underground, ground, Yes,
I get it. Yes. So during this time, there was
a lot of grave robbing going on, especially in the
first few nights, because like the soils like, you know,
looser than it would be after a few years or whatever.
And I mean think of grave robbers. You think of
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people stealing jewelry, you know, or whatever somebody's buried with.
But there were all there was also this thing going
on at the time where med students or these people
were I guess the middleman. They would take the fresh
bodies from the ground and then use them in med
school to like learn from the cadavers. But that's not
what happened here. Don't you worry. They were just here
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to steal some jewelry so often was very naked. Was like, wait,
hold on, med students. Most med students are freaks. The
students are freaks. You I love how you went. Sometimes
they steal jewelry, but med students sometimes, but they actually
stole jewelry. But what a great Yeah, good jobs. It's
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a good fun fact for lady. It's like a tea's
leading into what I'll talk about. But then also, I mean,
maybe med students just wanted jewelry. Maybe it was both.
You know, they want to look students don't have a
lot of money. You know, they're just they're still just students.
I feel like these students would have because they would
have liked because they have to like buy the bodies
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from the people who like dig up the bodies. That's true.
That's true. So these might be some mega rich med students. Yeah, okay,
So anyway, Um, Marjorie's family they were, they were. They
didn't check on the grave. They typically and this time
people would like sit by the grave and kind of
monitor to make sure this sort of thing wasn't happening,
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but Marjorie's family did not. They were sad at their
houses not buy her grave. So that night grave robbers
went where Marjorie was buried, and she had this beautiful
ring which her husband had tried to like take off.
He was like, oh, you know, I want her ring
like and remembrance or whatever, but it was stuck on
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her fingers. Never mind, I guess awkward. So there, I mean,
didn't they have butter back then? You could just butter
up her hand and you know, get it off right.
That's how you get things off, grease it up. You
know what actually works really well? Did they have butter
in seventeen oh five? And pretty? Okay? Cool? But you
know they probably didn't have that is very that actually
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works is windus. My mom had it like a ring
stuck on her finger and went to this jewel jeweler
and they sprayed her finger with winds. Almost said sanax.
So why didn't he just suck his dead wife's corpse's finger?
Okay it to you? So anyway, I digress. Long story short,
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she had a really pretty ring, very nice and expensive ring.
So these guys go down to get the ring from her,
but it's stuck as you remember. So one of the
guys is like, hey, man, you got a knife. I'm
going to need to cut her finger to get the ring.
He's like, yeah, I got you. And so they start
to cut off Marjorie's finger to get the ring. While
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Marjorie wakes back up, She's like, apparently she had this
whole time, really just been in a coma, and when
the Grave Robbers started to cut her finger off, she
woke up and was like, hella confused, Yeah, as were
the Grave Robbers. Now I've read actually two there's like
two different versions, so you can pick your favorite. I
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have my favorite, but I think it's not as likely.
So the first one is the two robbers were so
shocked that they just died on the spot. But a
lot of people also are like, that's probably not what happened,
and they just like ran away, like oh my god,
what has happened? She just woke back up. So anyway, yeah,
I like the part where they died. That was funny.
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I like that. Well, I mean like karma, I guess,
like stealing from the dead and then the dad wakes
up and then you die. Anyway, So but is this
how people should you know, wake up coma people in
the future. Do people do that now? Just try to
cut their fingers off and see if they wake up
like coma drama and they never can wake up or whatever. Yeah,
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seemingly they should just do a little cutty cut on
the finger because we have the technology and the know
how to. I wonder if the husband would have sucked
the finger, if that would have oken her up or
I already okay, Nika's like this, Nikah continue. I also
like how they were probably like I mean Ireland at
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the time. I guess they were still Catholic, not the Puritans,
but I don't know. I feel like Catholics would be
more likely to suck fingers than the Puritans, right, yeah, sure, yeah, definitely.
So anyway, Marjorie also is confused as I'll get out,
She's like, what is happening? She's like, I need to
go home and like check with my husband, see what's
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going on. So she goes over there her had she
just hold up. She's just like she gets out of
her coffin dirt on her feet like a ghost like person,
and then just goes up to the house and check out.
Where would you go? I would go home? Too. I
mean I would go home too. I'm just like saying
how ridiculous this story is. And I'm not saying that
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it's not true. I'm just saying how ridiculous it is. Well,
especially you're saying in such like a casual way. She's like, Oh,
I guess I'll just go this isn't my home. She
was like, I reject this home. Like what if you
woke up? I guess it would be really hard to
like that speech, like how would what would you say
to someone like after they thought you were dead? Just
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be like, yo, like what would you do? Because I
feel like that's a big opportunity there. You could say
all sorts of freaky things. Let's see what did she say?
What did she say? Okay, so um, her husband and
kids were actually sitting by the fire inside and they
were like by the fireplace or whatever, and they were
like all sad and everything. When they hear a knock
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at the door and the dad's like, y'all, I swear
if we didn't just bury your mother, that is her
knock like that is her and so which I know
what he means, Like a Scooby Doo episode, I know
what he means. Though people have a particular knock and
walk like people, you know. So he opens the door
and like there she is the same clothes that they
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buried her in, and blood dripping down her hand. So
I actually don't know what she said because nobody said anything,
but I ow my hand. I assume, yeah, it went
something along the lines of so I was just having
a coma and then these guys came in cut my finger.
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I woke up. They ran off or they died, not
sure which, And then I came home to be like,
what happens? Fault not father, husband, father, Yeah, it could
have been daddy, you know, anybody. It was mad that
they buried her, though, Like I'd be a little pissed
if someone buried me by accident. I would too, especially
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if your husband's a doctor. A doctor, honestly, I'd be like,
he sounds like a hack. Yeah. Well this was seventeen
oh five. Someone revoked his medical license. Okay, I'll get
on that. So so anyway, she shortly after that, her
husband actually died, and she remarried, had more children, and
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then eventually she passed away again, and her tombstone now
reads Marjorie McCall lived once buried twice, and that is
the story of Marjorie McCall. Now, there is a lot
of speculation on whether it's true or not. There are
historians who did the study, like studied it or whatever
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try to determine if it's true or not. And there
are people out there they're like, no, this actually happened,
Like there's no, I mean, it's kind of like a folklore.
But at the same time, there are historians out there
that are like, no, I'm pretty sure this did actually happen.
It's very plausible that all of these things went down
that way. Yeah, I don't think it's that crazy. I've
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heard crazier. Wait, did her tombstone say lived once, married
twice or died twice twice? Oh, buried? I thought they
were going to such a she was married twice though,
Well I think, yeah, I just feel like that would
be a woman's life. Though it's like this bitch came
back like Barry twice. But the like, no, we're going
to talk about the married part was exactly yes. Yeah, Okay, Well,
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thanks Taylor for telling us all about uh, Marjorie not Oceania?
What was the name? You liked? What I have always
wanted to name my future children. If I ever have children,
all of them you're going to name them that same name.
Oh ye, perfect doesn't matter because gender's performance anyways. Okay,
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well who okay, thanks Taylor. We'll be right back talking
more about some gray robbing. Okay, welcome back to Cadaver
Gau's Wow. Marjorie McCall died twice cashtag girl boss. Truly
incredible and as Taylor alluded to those medical students, um,
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that was a thing. Can confirm, Taylor, you weren't gas
lighting us. That was a thing that happened. Um. Okay,
So people are snatching bodies, they're trying to get them,
because basically you'd have these gray robbers, which were often
called like resurrectionist ooh fun name. What a way to
make that sound less shitty. Yeah, I'm a resurrectionist, not
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a robber. That sounds like bodies. That literally sounds like
an imagine Dragon's spinoff band resurrect. Well. Also, I mean
also they were called like the body snatchers too, which
you know, we're snatching bodies. That's like a sexy grave robber, right,
but yeah, the heyday for this to happen was like
the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries. So let's go to the
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UK and talk kind of what happened there. So what
had happened was that in seventeen fifty two they passed
the Murder Act, which meant instead of having executed people's
bodies on display, because that's often what they would happen,
it is like you get executed and then we're gonna
like just show people your body. So it's extra bad
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what they said what they said in seventeen fifty two,
because there's this like huge increase of like medical studies
at this point, a lot more anatomists. They're like, hey,
when you execute people, now you can have a public dissection,
or you can just have the body for you know,
private dissection, whatever kind of dissection you want to have
private dissection. That sounds nasty. I feel like, yeah, there
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needs to be as sex supervisor. No, somebody needs to
be supervisor. I'm gonna text play a partner to privately
dissect you, Okay. But the thing is, even after that happened,
because there had been this explosion of medical science, even
after that, they're like, we still don't have enough bodies.
We need more bodies. You should have gone a friends
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friends had so many bodies did Oh yes, Paris the ctacombs,
Oh yeah, they should have gotten those. The problem with
those those is that they had been rotted. Though. You
need fresh bodies. You need fresh That's why you would
only have to guard your loved one's graves for a
few days, because after that then they're like, nay, we
don't really want that anymore. The medical students specific I know, honestly,
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they want a fresh body just so they can like
it can be more like a realistic body, so that
they can figure out how to like heal people, uh whatever.
I mean, they probably learned some stuff on this right
on these bodies, on these cadavers, right, I mean they
were trying to learn stuff. I mean that was the point.
It wasn't just like a I mean it is kind
of a weird hobby being act not suggesting anyone does that. Yeah, anyway,
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so people, they still they wanted more bodies. They need more.
Even with all the Gray Robin and all the ship
like that, it got so out of hand that there
were these two dudes who just what they did instead
of just like body snatching what they just started murdering people.
You know, they just were like, hey, you know these
this anatomus, this bro he needs some bodies, So why
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don't we just kill people, you know, take out. It's like,
we don't even have to dig someone up, you know,
shoveling can be really hard. They're like, we're just gonna
kill them. So it was these two Williams. There's William
Burke and William Hare and they killed over the course
of ten months in eighteen twenty eight, they killed sixteen
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people and sold them nice and fresh okay, nice fresh
corpses for the medical people. They actually came up with
a verb. It was like if you it was a
verb to mean like, if you were murdered in order
to be provided to like medical people, you got burped.
Oh oh my god. Wow that is bad. That's bad.
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Two questions one I forgot the second one. So we'll
see how much were they saw? Oh I remember how
much were they selling them? For A and B? How
are they killing them? Because I feel like did like
invocation no breath? Well some of them were suffocated, and
like some of them were like, well, you know, maybe
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she was already suffocating and then they just helped her
on suffocating. So I feel like choking out people was
like a pretty good way to kill people. So you
could still like preserve most of the body because obviously
if you like stab them, you know that's not come
to be outers. Yeah, the inner or outould become outers
and they can't see. Yeah, you can't like study them
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very well. So choking was one way that they did it.
And in terms of the price, I don't know exactly,
but it does seem like a pretty good price. This
seems pretty oother. People were making livelihoods off of like
body snatching. It was the med students like not like no,
it wasn't the med students. They were the med students
were like buying the bodies or it was like you know,
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any sort of like medical practitioner would buy the bodies.
It's just other people who are like, oh, this is
my job. I snatched the bodies and give it and
then sell them. Basically what a what a job? What
a job? Job? Just like aren't what they used to
be honestly anyway, So m William Burke he ended up
getting executed after they caught them, and then his body
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was given to dissection. So good I was hoping, So yeah,
very appropriate and so watch out for getting burked. That
literally sounds like, oh you've been punked burked. Then, like
the law people, people in charge of the law, they
were just like, hey, well maybe we should do something
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about this body situation because it seems to be getting
a little out of hand with people just like murdering people.
So what they did was in eighteen thirty two, they
passed the Anatomy Act, which allowed people to dissect bodies
that were like donated, and also made it legal to
dissect bodies of like unidentified people who worked in workhouses
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and people who volunteered. This didn't really slow down. This
didn't really slow down body snatching. What did really slow
it down was in the eighteen eighties when embalming became
a thing, because then you could preserve bodies for longer
and they didn't just fall apart and be useless because
you could really only use it for a couple of days.
But once you could embalm bodies, you could like look
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at the same body for a longer period of time,
you didn't need to snatch as many bodies, and everyone
was happy. Hey, good, good conclusion. Everyone's happy. Now. Okay,
so now I guess people are just snatching bodies for
fun and not for medicine. So so there's not a
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good conclusion. They were going somewhere, but they're all people
are always going to be killing people. Yeah, they're like,
that's just I suppose. So there's no there's not going
to be a world where people stop being crazy. That's true.
Speaking of killing, Nika is gonna kill on her story,
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It's gonna be filled with twists and turns and creepy
wax things would be ever an ominous presence. Yes, there
is not just one wax museum, but two wax museums
in this story. Argue, kidding me, No, do I do
it for you guys? So let's get into the story. Um,
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this is a it's a pretty bizarre story set in Arlington,
Texas in nineteen eighty seven. Um seven. Yeah, So I
don't know relatively recent we got late eighties whatever. I
don't know what was happening in the late eighties. I
wasn't born, Okay. I think the end Ago Girls released
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their first album, There we Go, There we Go. We
got some trivia. So Patsy Wright was forty three years
old when she called her sister Sally at three am,
saying that something was really wrong. She had taken her
nightly ni quill, which she used to fall asleep almost
every night, and kind of her family and friends knew
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that she had this habit. And she said, in slurred
words that her stomach was hurting and that she couldn't breathe.
And that's like weird. Niquill isn't supposed to do that.
Oh it shouldn't be laughing. Okay, is ni quill that strong? Yeah?
It kind of n it. It's I remember one time
I was like, I was not feeling so hot, and
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so I took some ni quill, but like I had
to run an errand first, A well, not first. I
took the ni quill, ran the errand, and I was like, oh, shoot,
I need to get back before I died. That's scary.
But also this is a niquill from the eighties, so
I feel like it it was probably a little stronger
Umann in the eighties. Okay, when were you when we
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were in wet year eighty eight? Oh my gosh, this
is a year before you were born. Of this is
the precursor to Taylor's conception this whole story right, well, yes,
this this means something for Taylor okay. So her sister
Sally and her husband, Sally's husband Um, immediately went over
to the rental the Patsy was staying in and the
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door was locked, but the lights were on, so Stephen
the husband, broke a window and let Sally in And
when they found Patsy, she was unconscious and her eyes
were like open but foggy, like she wasn't really seeing,
and the alarm the Patsy had installed just a few
months prior didn't ring, so like it wasn't set up.
So Sally called the police and param Eddis, who arrived
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pretty quickly, and they took Patsy to the emergency room,
but it was too late. She was declared deceased at
four or fifteen am. Wait was Stephen the sister's husband. Yes,
O husband's I know. And it gets crazier from there.
So Patsy was a beautiful, very wealthy Texas socialite and businesswoman.
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She was a shareholder of the Southwest Historical Wax Museum
in Grand Prairie, Texas, which, oh yeah, which was worth
six million at the time. Good for her, It's pretty crazy.
I'm like, how does a wax museum make so much money? Anyway?
Her dad was an oilman with his passion for tex
In history, and then she and her sister grew up
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like super privileged. They lived very sheltered lives in the
South and she was easily like a millionaire, her and
her sister, And she was in the process of moving
to the country. She had actually bought thirty acres of
property and a beautiful big house that was currently being renovated. Um.
She also had she bought this horse and a mare,
and she was going to start breeding them, and she
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was beginning to ride in competitions, and she was kind
of getting into the world of fancy horse rearing essentially.
So her life was her or like she is me yeah, yeah,
well I hope not, but yeah, Um, her life was
going full speed ahead. Basically she loved life. And this
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plus the fact that there was no suicide note in
her alarm, like her clock was even set for the
next day, and everyone who knew her said like she
was vivacious and like looking forward to the future and
blah blah, made it very easy to rule out suicide.
So this toxicology report confirmed that the Nike will Patsy
took was actually pure strict nan and oh I've talked
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about it. It had enough poison to kill eight people,
and we've like we said, we've talked about this before,
but just to summarize, strictnine is a lethal poison that
is super hard to find. It used to be found
in like rat killer or like rodent poison or whatever,
but even now it's not really used for that because
it's so aggressive and kind of inhumane. But like even
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the poisons that are rodent killers, they only contain three
percent of strictnine, and Patsy was killed with the powdered
pure version of strictnine. And it's a very very painful
way to die. The victim experiences suffocation, convulsions, and the
paralysis of the respiratory muscles before dying, and basically between
every convulsion there's like a moment of like no convulsions
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when you feel normal, but you know it's like going
to come again. That usually happens like three times before
you die. So it is not a great way to go.
It's a very aggressive poison and very hard to come
by anyway. So the FBI ruled out product tampering since
there were no other poisonings from the lot number of
the night Will bottle, So it was clearly a murder,
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but investigators didn't really know where to begin, Like they
knew it had to be someone who was closed with Patsy.
Since the killer knew her nighttime night will habit, her routine,
the killer obviously had access to her products and like
her bedside table and whatever like that is just it's
very intimate. So the boyfriend, yeah, well who knows, here
(27:31):
we go the boyfriend? What are you talking about? Always
the boyfriend, never the boyfriend. So Patsy had been married twice,
once to a man named Bill Wright. They had two kids,
and the split was very amicable, and he actually was
the executor of her estate in her will, so they
were on good terms. And then after they broke up,
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she met this guy called Bob Cox who had he's
already suspicious Cox, Okay, who who had initially? He is
already suspicious because listen, he had initially called to sell
his wax museum collection to the Southwest Historical Wax Museum,
and Bob was married at the time, but he started
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pursuing Patsy and she was like, no, you need to
break it off with your wife before we move any further.
So he did but also he had all those wax figures.
That's weird. Yeah, they ended up never buying them, which
is really funny. Good. So he did leave his wife,
and then in nineteen eighty three they were married, and
his wax museum had burned down in a fire. So
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basically he moved to where Patsy was and Bob's ex
warned Patsy that Bob was a gambler and that he
was in debt, and sure enough, basically the moment they married.
Patsy says that Bob changed immediately. He was like verbally
abusive to herself and to her children, and she wanted
to stay in Arlington until her children graduated high school.
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And he resented her, and like he resented Arlington because
it was like a small town. He would play poker
every single day at the country club he belong too,
and Patsy was paying for all their living expenses. Wow,
that's fucked up. I do not like that. It got
really bad when the IRS tried to tie Patsy's earnings
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to Bob's tax debt, which was in the three hundred
thousand dollars range. Wow. Thankfully, thankfully, thankfully, she's very smart.
She was a very smart businesswoman. She had signed a
prenup to protect herself, and then she filed for divorce
a year after their wedding, and she also filed for
a restraining order a month after filing for divorce because
she said that Bob would follow her and park outside
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her house at night. And then one question about this,
Bob said that it was because he was worried Patsy
would take his country club membership in the divorce. Okay,
Bob Cox is a dick. Yes, So at some point
in nineteen eighty six, Bob stopped stalking her and just
like went on to live his life. Happened you, Just like,
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I'm done stalking. I don't know. I even stalkers get tired. Okay.
Empathy for stalkers, I'm kidding, they can all joy okay. Sally,
Patsy's sister, had also remarried. She was with the guy
we mentioned, Steve, who Patsy liked it first, but when
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she found out that just a few years after the wedding,
Steve spent all of Sally's inheritance yea, she did not
like him so much. Then both sisters had five hundred
thousand life insurance policies, and they had this buysell agreement together,
so like if one sister dies, the other had to
use the money to buy the deceased sister's share of stock,
so that way one sister remained sole owner of the museum.
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I cannot believe that the wax Museum made so much
money anyway, and it was like such a prized whatever anyway,
So the museum's value had grown substantially. And then Sally
got cancer, and so both their grandparents and their parents
had died of cancer. So Patsy was like very worried
about Sally's health, and more than that, she really recognized
that if Sally died, Steve would end up with half
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a million dollars and like the shares from the wax Museum,
and they didn't want that. So Sally got better. But
the sisters agreed to change the Bicell deal that they had,
and they had scheduled a meeting to change it, but
Patsy was killed two weeks before it happened. Interesting, so
Steve was a suspect as well, and he took two
(31:30):
polygraph tests and the first was inconclusive, and then the
second one he passed. Which polygraph tests you don't always.
I don't know, they're not very reliable. But also it
was the eighties. I don't know. It's like an at
home COVID test. I guess, so, yeah, it's gonna give
you a false positive. It's like things in the eighties
aren't reliable, like Taylor. I think Taylor's actually pretty reliable.
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There were other suspects too, Like there was this couple,
Bill and Bonnie Alexander, who had sold Patsy the horse
that Patsy had bought, and they were actually boarding the
horse and taking care of it before Patsy moved to
the country. Patsy had also lived with them for a
month and she was taking writing lessons and they were
all very close. It gave me throuple vibes. Cph but
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we will never know. And Bill and Bonnie cashed a
check from Patsy the day before she died, and it
was a four thousand dollars check for like writing in
competition fees, And according to them, Patsy had given them
a blank check and signed it saying, just like, put
whatever I owe you in there and cash it like
it's fine. And Patsy talked to her accountant that same
day that she gave them the blank check, and the
accountant asked if she had any big payments or withdrawals
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that she should know about, because she was in the
process of withdrawing like one fifty K for her new
house in the country, and Patsy was like, no, but
I also feel like four K was probably not a
big deal for her, and so like the check went
through and that's probably why she didn't mention it to
the accountant, but that they were still a suspect because
people started saying that, I don't know, they like Bill
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had an affair with Patsy, or Bonnie was jealous of
Patsy or whatever, or a bunch of rumors that actually
never proved to be true. Essentially, so they were other suspects.
And then about eleven months after Patsy's death, the Southwest
Wax Museum was destroyed by a fire, just like that
Dude's wax music very sketchy. Initially they thought it was
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an electrical short, but then the fireman found that it
was actually arson. In a matter of minutes, the massive
museum was like totally on fire. It was a really
big building. And also the case file was stolen from investigators.
It's like very aggressive. All of the wax sculptures melted. Yeah,
they rebuilt it, but obviously like it wasn't the same. Sorry,
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I was thinking of all the melted wax like figures
like that's actually kind of a cool museum. Was just
like all the melts, like slightly melted people Like if
Mam two sards like was on fire and then you
just had like a Brad Pitt wax sculpture that was
like slightly you would you would absolutely love. I'm developing
a plan now, oh ooh okay, wow, careful with some arson.
(34:10):
She'll just keep the temperature up so that they like
kind of slowly melt over, slowly melt and so it's
ever changing. Why is Angelina Jolie crying mommy? And it's like, yeah,
that's fine. Anyway, So that wax museum burned down. We
know that Bob Cox's wax museum also burned down, and
he was actually the primary suspect in all of this
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because he sued the insurance company of his wax museum
that had burned down because they had not given him
the money that he was owed. But the insurance company
believed that he started the fire deliberately because he was
in terrible debt and the wax museum wasn't making any money.
And there was a trial that was supposed to happen
ten days after Patsy was murdered, and Patsy was going
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to testify against her ex husband, and she knew things
and she was gonna talk despite him begging her to
change her story, but she wouldn't, and he refused to
take a polygraph test and was unco vertive an investigation,
but without solid evidence, he was left alone and the
case was never solved. I'm so sorry. And he died
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I think like a couple of years ago, so we'll
never know. Did he die in an arson related and
said and no, I think it was just like natural causes,
being a dick, being hateful. Yes, exactly. Think he did it.
I think he did it too. Out of all of
the people, I think he did it. I think that
Stephen was kind of sketchy for sure, because they were
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about to change that deal so that way he was
not going to have like the five hundred K life
insurance policy. But I think it's still all points to
Bob Cox. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I think the horse
did it. No, Taylor's very very effective. Four thousand dollars
for like horse things is not not plausible. Yeah, exactly.
(36:02):
So I'm like, I don't think it was a nice
couple and they should have been given more. No. No,
I'm just saying, like, that's that seems reasonable, like if
they were boarding them and lessons boarding her horses and stuff. Yeah,
it seems plausible based on the evidence that that was
a fair rate. You're right, I think they're fine, mister Cox.
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What was the name Bill Bob. Also, I don't know
if horses would have the finesse of putting strychnine inside
like a ni quill bottle. No fence to horses. I'm
just saying they don't have thumbs. They don't have thumbs. Well, Nika,
thank you for that titillating story that has no conclusion.
M We'll be right back. Okay, guys, we're back with cadaver.
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Gail's got one little part left about wax figures, okay,
because I think they're pretty creepy and weird, and I
think it's a weird part of the world that we have.
I feel like as a celebrity, it probably you get
either like your Hollywood star or you get like a
wax figure of you, and I don't I wouldn't want
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one because what if it was bad? You know, no,
but that's funny, I don't know, probably funny. I would
be pretty offended. Yeah, Like remember the Nicki Minaje one
that was so terrible that was there was There's been
a few lately. Isn't there one that's specifically for like
like a museum that it's like bad wax figures or something.
(37:29):
Probably probably that's all of them. Okay, bad wax figures anyway,
they're pretty creepy because you know, they have that like
uncanny Valley thing where they're like kind of human but
like not exactly. Also, did they ever have wicks in them?
You know? What if that was just like a really
intense candle, like a really big human sized candle, I
(37:51):
feel like it'd be too tempting to light. Yeah, I
mean I would light it and then like ed sheering,
just like an air cheering candle, and then late his
face disappears. It sounds like a nightmare and sheer and
in particular, Yeah, um, I think he recently had one
revealed or something that I saw because I was looking
(38:12):
at I was like, yal do research on this, but
then I just looked at pictures anyway. So um sometimes though,
you know, sometimes you're like, hey, that look at that
wax figure. But then you're like, oh, oopsie, it's it's
actually just a corpse. Um. You know when that happens. Why,
no one, that doesn't happen to you, guys on the
reg No, no one. Okay, I feel like that would
(38:35):
happen to you more. Yeah, it's like once a week,
once a week, I'm always finding a wax corpse, just
lingering around, you know, why you are the way you are? Yeah,
they just find me. I don't know how anyway. Well, okay,
so here's what happened. This happened one time and it
wasn't to me. It was in nineteen seventy six, and
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what had happened was that there is a film crew
and they're making a movie in a fun house in
Long Beach, California. Okay, and so you know, it was
like a whole sort of like amusement park situation. But
then the fun house had just like you know, different
type of figures and other stuff, and they're filming inside
of it. And one of the people on the crew
(39:19):
was like, oh, look at that wax figure. That's kind
of like it's it was like hanging from the gallows scene.
It was like an outlaw scene. And he was like, oh,
look at that wax figure. We kind of don't want
it in the shot. So one of the crew members
went over and was trying to like move it, but
then its arm fell off, and they're like, oh, that's
so silly of us that we broke their wax figure. Oopsies.
(39:41):
And then he was like, wait, why does this wax
figure have muscle and bone? Oh ah. Anyway, so then
they eventually, you know, there was a moment of like,
oh shit, I think this is just like a mummified
corpse that had been like had a thin layer of
(40:02):
wax on it, and indeed that's what it was. Um,
what they did is they called nine one one and
as a funny joke, they were like, hey, we have
a really dehydrated person here. Uh So they said that, yeah,
I know the time and place for jokes people, I
mean the person. It was clear that this person had
(40:22):
been dead of a while. Soho a podcast. Guys, everyone's
so ghost except for us anyway. So so they came
and they're like, okay, yeah, this is a dead person.
So then what they did is they took the body
over to the medical examiner and they're like, hey, what
the what the heck is up with this? And the
(40:43):
medical examiner, using science and stuff, was able to determine
that this person had died via gunshot wound, also had
had tuberculosis, and you know, also had bunions on their feet,
so they didn't have like good feet, like these were
toes you probably didn't want to be sucking on. Also, okay, okay,
I mean also he didn't really have fingers anymore because
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at some point it seemed like they had been probably
knocked off post mortem. And yeah, so he had like
a thin layer of paint on him and a thin
layer of wax. And they also determined that he probably
died maybe somewhere between like nineteen oh five and nineteen
twenty because they determined that he specifically shot with a
bullet that was like used during that time, which I'm like, oh,
that's cool, that's cool. That Yeah, so he he was chilling, Yeah,
(41:29):
he was just chilling. So oh. Another freaky detail is
that they found both a penny from nineteen twenty four
and also ticket stubs that had been stuffed into his
mouth from a side show called Lewis Sonny's Museum of Crime.
So that's so weird. Why would they do that? Because
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I feel like I do that to random shelves, Like
if I have extra random stuff that I don't want
to throw it away, but I also don't know where
to put right now, I'll just put it like in
a shelf. But a man's mouth is not a shelf.
Maybe it was like a good luck thing. I mean,
a man's mouth is not a shelf. I mean it
could be a cupboard. Sometimes it's a shelf for dad ass,
(42:11):
depending on what's going on. But you know, maybe it's
a good luck thing of like you know, people do
weird things like you know, and like Florence, Italy, they
have this big sculpture of a pig and you like
rub the nose for good luck, or you throw the
coins in the fountain. Sometimes maybe putting your ticket stubs
in a dead man's mouth is good luck. Here stick
just feels so niche. I don't know, but yeah, maybe,
(42:34):
I mean this was like the Midwest, So are not
the Midwest. It's more of like the the Midwest. That's
below the midwest's like Kansas, Oklahoma, whatever that's called where
all the Square states are. I thought you said we
were in California. We were in California, but there's more.
He's been all over the place. Okay, my gosh, Okay,
we world traveler. So the thing is like this side
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show that they found the tickets from that was in Oklahoma,
or that was in Kansas, wait, which one wasn't it's
one of those one of the Square states. They're all
the same, but they but they determined using all of
this evidence that this guy who was dead, he was
an outlaw named Elmer McCurdy. Okay, and Elmer mccurty had
been a dead man who had been on display for
(43:18):
decades at like various places. And what happened was they
thought that he was like he was well, he seemed
like he was a really shitty outlaw and he died
in nineteen eleven in Oklahoma because he tried to do
like a train hist to steal like hundreds of thousands
of dollars, but then he hoisted the wrong train, so
instead he only got it was like a passenger train instead,
(43:39):
so he only got forty six dollars, sort of like,
you know, three hundred thousand dollars oopsy expectation versus execution.
That's really sad. Yeah, And then well he was really
sad about it, so he went like drank and was
like laying in this hay loft thing and just like
being sad and emo. But you know, the police were
still going to try to get him, so they like
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had a two thousand dollars worn out for him. So
then they found him in the hay loft and they
were like, hey, like calm down, you rob that train,
and he's like, man, I don't want to. So they
had a shootout for like an hour, and then he
got shot in the chest and he died. So then
they took him over to this like funeral home and
this guy like embalmed him and did all this work
(44:21):
to make his body look like slightly better. But then
he was mad because no one paid for his services.
So what he did was like, well, if no one's
gonna pay for this body or like claim this body
or like pay me, I'm just gonna you know, prop
him up and put him on display and you can
pay a nickel to see the outlaw dead body. Oh
my gosh. And it became a very popular date spot, okay,
and a lot of people want it was a bigger contraction,
(44:43):
and a lot of people approached him being like, hey,
can we have this body to put in our sideshow
or whatever. And he was like no, no, no, no no, no,
you can't. That's weird. I can only profit off this
body or his family can come and claim him. So
like five years later, these dudes approach him and are like, hey,
where this guy Elmer's brothers. We've come to claim the body.
And he's like, okay, here habit. But they weren't his brothers.
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They were just these people who had They didn't, no,
they didn't. But they had a carnival in Kansas and
they wanted to put him on display because you know,
he was a hot commodity. So they got his body.
They're like, oh, yeah, we're taking him back to California,
but like, no, they're taking him to Kansas, And so
he was on display there for a little bit. His
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body was on display as um the outlaw who would
never be captured alive. And then in nineteen twenty two,
McCurdy was bought by another dude or this whole like
these two the two brothers. Their whole operation was bought
by this other guy, and then he displayed McCurdy with
some other like wax replicas of other outlaws, which I
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think at this point, I'm like, it's really unclear whether
or not they knew he was like a real dead
person versus just like a wax figure type thing. Anyway,
But then that guy, he the guy who owned that one,
he died, so that dude's brother lent out the body
to a filmmaker who was making a film, and they
(46:12):
used his body as like a display in the lobby
of this theater just to like promote the film. And
then they were like, Okay, we don't need this body anymore,
so they put the body in a Los Angeles warehouse,
and then another filmmaker used it for like a display
item and then also used it in a film. And
then that's like in the sixties. And then this guy
(46:35):
who owned the Hollywood Wax Museum, he bought the figure,
but he didn't like it on display because he said
it wasn't life like enough wowow, which is pretty funny.
And then it was finally sold to the amusement park
where he was found. So he was just like going
all over the place, you know, on display, and then
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finally in nineteen seventy seven they put him down to
rest in a plot in Guthrie, Oklahoma. So that is
the long journey of Elmer McCurdy, who is more successful
as a dead man than an outlaw. Oops, that's crazy, yep.
So just now that after you die, you could you know,
(47:19):
it's kind of like a van Go situation, like, you know,
he wasn't successful during his life, but afterwards he's a
monumental artist. And Elmer McCurdy is the same thing as
van Go basically. So yeah, sometimes you know, maybe in
a wax museum in the future you just got is
that a wax figure or is it a man who's
been dead for forty years? You know, ask yourself that
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every single time you go into a wax museum. Now, yeah,
every time you see a wax figure, is it a
corpse or is it is it Ed Sheeran or is
it Dead Edge? Yeah? And Ed Sheeron has is like
the lizard man right now, Like that's the Ed cheering
that is moving around. The Dead Edge is actually the
wax figure, yeah and cheering? Yeah, yep. Well, guys, this
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has been another episode of cadaver Gals. Um your your
news source for people who have died, So I truly
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School of Humans. Wowee wowee wow wow wow. It's another
episode of Cadaver Gals, the show where we talk about
all the ways people have died throughout history. I mean
the weird ways. They're weird ways people and also sad
and also sometimes other types of ways they're dying in ways.
I'm one of your hosts, Gabby, along with Taylor Hi
(00:31):
and Nika Hi and credible great highs everyone today, great work. Today.
We're gonna hear all sorts of things. There's gonna be
a lady who dies not once, but twice. I guess
she had to stick around or whatever. And I'm achiever, sorry,
honestly and overachiever. Achiever. She's like, you know, twenty percent
(00:55):
of a cat. Her life wasn't done yet. Another hashtag
girl boss probably, And we're also going to hear about
a Texas millionaire who was murdered and also owned a
wax museum. Um, which is always freaky and fun. Some
cool hot sugar warnings for today. We got murder, poison, suicide,
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being buried alive, arson, and just wax figures that are creepy.
So um. Cue the music. Enjoy this episode. Be there
in just a second Okay, I meet you on the
other side of the music by lamp we st accordion music.
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We're silly, Everyone's silly. Um We're silly, and we will
never not try to do the theme music. We're just
very predictable, I think, and hot. Nika's always hot. Geez lowise.
But you'll also last time told us smelly and stinky
or however many episodes. But Taylor has a very great
(02:21):
eyeliner on today, So you win the eyeliner prize that
I was going to give out. Yeah, Lately, Taylor's been
looking really good at meetings and it's making me want
to step my game up and I feel threatened. It's
because I've been going into the office and seeing people
from the outside world, which occurred to me. I think
it's actually pretty funny because it's not like like it's
(02:42):
not like I'm doing it for my co workers. I'm
doing it for the people in the building that I
work in, you know, across, so it's very strange. Anyway. Yeah, well,
I'm setting my alarm for you know, nine to fifty eight.
I wake up and then go to my ten o'clock meeting,
and you know, it's always ten o one when I arrive,
you know, because there's traffic from my bed. It's a shameful.
(03:06):
It's a fishing shameful. It's efficient. Okay, Well, I guess
we should talk about death. I suppose, um, since that
is the premise of the show, and Taylor is gonna
tell us the tale of the hashtag girl boss who
died twice. Okay, Yeah, so we're gonna talk about a
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lady named Marjorie McCall. Marjorie. Bad name. Sorry, Oh you
think it's a great name, Marjorie, Marjora. That sounds like
a soap opera name. Marjorie sounds like a Southern ghost.
I like it. That's wrong with a Southern ghost, Nika, Yeah,
nothing's wrong with that. I just like not ideal name,
(03:47):
you know. Oh, Shania is the ideal name for me. Okay, okay,
well you names what? Okay? Marjorie McCall. She was an
Irish lass wow see, married to a man named John McCall,
who was a doctor, and they had a few kids.
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As far as I know, they're a one big, happy family.
Until one day, as it would happen in seventeen oh five,
various illnesses would just take over and they didn't know
how to get better from them. They didn't have the medicine,
modern medicine that we have today. And so poor Marjorie
got some sort of cold and died. Oh mummers and okay,
(04:35):
coming up on the next section though. Okay, So her
husband a doctor, he was like, science is real. So
he's like, we need to bury her quickly so her
corpse doesn't get everyone else. Six So he's like, we
need six feet apart from her quickly. So six feet yeah,
six feet under. You know, I thought we were doing
(04:56):
a six foot quarantine situation. But you mean yes, under underground, ground, Yes,
I get it. Yes. So during this time, there was
a lot of grave robbing going on, especially in the
first few nights, because like the soils like, you know,
looser than it would be after a few years or whatever.
And I mean think of grave robbers. You think of
(05:17):
people stealing jewelry, you know, or whatever somebody's buried with.
But there were all there was also this thing going
on at the time where med students or these people
were I guess the middleman. They would take the fresh
bodies from the ground and then use them in med
school to like learn from the cadavers. But that's not
what happened here. Don't you worry. They were just here
(05:39):
to steal some jewelry so often was very naked. Was like, wait,
hold on, med students. Most med students are freaks. The
students are freaks. You I love how you went. Sometimes
they steal jewelry, but med students sometimes, but they actually
stole jewelry. But what a great Yeah, good jobs. It's
(06:00):
a good fun fact for lady. It's like a tea's
leading into what I'll talk about. But then also, I mean,
maybe med students just wanted jewelry. Maybe it was both.
You know, they want to look students don't have a
lot of money. You know, they're just they're still just students.
I feel like these students would have because they would
have liked because they have to like buy the bodies
(06:22):
from the people who like dig up the bodies. That's true.
That's true. So these might be some mega rich med students. Yeah, okay,
So anyway, Um, Marjorie's family they were, they were. They
didn't check on the grave. They typically and this time
people would like sit by the grave and kind of
monitor to make sure this sort of thing wasn't happening,
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but Marjorie's family did not. They were sad at their
houses not buy her grave. So that night grave robbers
went where Marjorie was buried, and she had this beautiful
ring which her husband had tried to like take off.
He was like, oh, you know, I want her ring
like and remembrance or whatever, but it was stuck on
(07:04):
her fingers. Never mind, I guess awkward. So there, I mean,
didn't they have butter back then? You could just butter
up her hand and you know, get it off right.
That's how you get things off, grease it up. You
know what actually works really well? Did they have butter
in seventeen oh five? And pretty? Okay? Cool? But you
know they probably didn't have that is very that actually
(07:27):
works is windus. My mom had it like a ring
stuck on her finger and went to this jewel jeweler
and they sprayed her finger with winds. Almost said sanax.
So why didn't he just suck his dead wife's corpse's finger?
Okay it to you? So anyway, I digress. Long story short,
(07:52):
she had a really pretty ring, very nice and expensive ring.
So these guys go down to get the ring from her,
but it's stuck as you remember. So one of the
guys is like, hey, man, you got a knife. I'm
going to need to cut her finger to get the ring.
He's like, yeah, I got you. And so they start
to cut off Marjorie's finger to get the ring. While
(08:12):
Marjorie wakes back up, She's like, apparently she had this
whole time, really just been in a coma, and when
the Grave Robbers started to cut her finger off, she
woke up and was like, hella confused, Yeah, as were
the Grave Robbers. Now I've read actually two there's like
two different versions, so you can pick your favorite. I
(08:35):
have my favorite, but I think it's not as likely.
So the first one is the two robbers were so
shocked that they just died on the spot. But a
lot of people also are like, that's probably not what happened,
and they just like ran away, like oh my god,
what has happened? She just woke back up. So anyway, yeah,
I like the part where they died. That was funny.
(08:56):
I like that. Well, I mean like karma, I guess,
like stealing from the dead and then the dad wakes
up and then you die. Anyway, So but is this
how people should you know, wake up coma people in
the future. Do people do that now? Just try to
cut their fingers off and see if they wake up
like coma drama and they never can wake up or whatever. Yeah,
(09:19):
seemingly they should just do a little cutty cut on
the finger because we have the technology and the know
how to. I wonder if the husband would have sucked
the finger, if that would have oken her up or
I already okay, Nika's like this, Nikah continue. I also
like how they were probably like I mean Ireland at
(09:40):
the time. I guess they were still Catholic, not the Puritans,
but I don't know. I feel like Catholics would be
more likely to suck fingers than the Puritans, right, yeah, sure, yeah, definitely.
So anyway, Marjorie also is confused as I'll get out,
She's like, what is happening? She's like, I need to
go home and like check with my husband, see what's
(10:01):
going on. So she goes over there her had she
just hold up. She's just like she gets out of
her coffin dirt on her feet like a ghost like person,
and then just goes up to the house and check out.
Where would you go? I would go home? Too. I
mean I would go home too. I'm just like saying
how ridiculous this story is. And I'm not saying that
(10:23):
it's not true. I'm just saying how ridiculous it is. Well,
especially you're saying in such like a casual way. She's like, Oh,
I guess I'll just go this isn't my home. She
was like, I reject this home. Like what if you
woke up? I guess it would be really hard to
like that speech, like how would what would you say
to someone like after they thought you were dead? Just
(10:44):
be like, yo, like what would you do? Because I
feel like that's a big opportunity there. You could say
all sorts of freaky things. Let's see what did she say?
What did she say? Okay, so um, her husband and
kids were actually sitting by the fire inside and they
were like by the fireplace or whatever, and they were
like all sad and everything. When they hear a knock
(11:04):
at the door and the dad's like, y'all, I swear
if we didn't just bury your mother, that is her
knock like that is her and so which I know
what he means, Like a Scooby Doo episode, I know
what he means. Though people have a particular knock and
walk like people, you know. So he opens the door
and like there she is the same clothes that they
(11:26):
buried her in, and blood dripping down her hand. So
I actually don't know what she said because nobody said anything,
but I ow my hand. I assume, yeah, it went
something along the lines of so I was just having
a coma and then these guys came in cut my finger.
(11:46):
I woke up. They ran off or they died, not
sure which, And then I came home to be like,
what happens? Fault not father, husband, father, Yeah, it could
have been daddy, you know, anybody. It was mad that
they buried her, though, Like I'd be a little pissed
if someone buried me by accident. I would too, especially
(12:10):
if your husband's a doctor. A doctor, honestly, I'd be like,
he sounds like a hack. Yeah. Well this was seventeen
oh five. Someone revoked his medical license. Okay, I'll get
on that. So so anyway, she shortly after that, her
husband actually died, and she remarried, had more children, and
(12:35):
then eventually she passed away again, and her tombstone now
reads Marjorie McCall lived once buried twice, and that is
the story of Marjorie McCall. Now, there is a lot
of speculation on whether it's true or not. There are
historians who did the study, like studied it or whatever
(12:58):
try to determine if it's true or not. And there
are people out there they're like, no, this actually happened,
Like there's no, I mean, it's kind of like a folklore.
But at the same time, there are historians out there
that are like, no, I'm pretty sure this did actually happen.
It's very plausible that all of these things went down
that way. Yeah, I don't think it's that crazy. I've
(13:18):
heard crazier. Wait, did her tombstone say lived once, married
twice or died twice twice? Oh, buried? I thought they
were going to such a she was married twice though,
Well I think, yeah, I just feel like that would
be a woman's life. Though it's like this bitch came
back like Barry twice. But the like, no, we're going
to talk about the married part was exactly yes. Yeah, Okay, Well,
(13:43):
thanks Taylor for telling us all about uh, Marjorie not Oceania?
What was the name? You liked? What I have always
wanted to name my future children. If I ever have children,
all of them you're going to name them that same name.
Oh ye, perfect doesn't matter because gender's performance anyways. Okay,
(14:08):
well who okay, thanks Taylor. We'll be right back talking
more about some gray robbing. Okay, welcome back to Cadaver
Gau's Wow. Marjorie McCall died twice cashtag girl boss. Truly
incredible and as Taylor alluded to those medical students, um,
(14:31):
that was a thing. Can confirm, Taylor, you weren't gas
lighting us. That was a thing that happened. Um. Okay,
So people are snatching bodies, they're trying to get them,
because basically you'd have these gray robbers, which were often
called like resurrectionist ooh fun name. What a way to
make that sound less shitty. Yeah, I'm a resurrectionist, not
(14:53):
a robber. That sounds like bodies. That literally sounds like
an imagine Dragon's spinoff band resurrect. Well. Also, I mean
also they were called like the body snatchers too, which
you know, we're snatching bodies. That's like a sexy grave robber, right,
but yeah, the heyday for this to happen was like
the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries. So let's go to the
(15:15):
UK and talk kind of what happened there. So what
had happened was that in seventeen fifty two they passed
the Murder Act, which meant instead of having executed people's
bodies on display, because that's often what they would happen,
it is like you get executed and then we're gonna
like just show people your body. So it's extra bad
(15:35):
what they said what they said in seventeen fifty two,
because there's this like huge increase of like medical studies
at this point, a lot more anatomists. They're like, hey,
when you execute people, now you can have a public dissection,
or you can just have the body for you know,
private dissection, whatever kind of dissection you want to have
private dissection. That sounds nasty. I feel like, yeah, there
(15:59):
needs to be as sex supervisor. No, somebody needs to
be supervisor. I'm gonna text play a partner to privately
dissect you, Okay. But the thing is, even after that happened,
because there had been this explosion of medical science, even
after that, they're like, we still don't have enough bodies.
We need more bodies. You should have gone a friends
(16:20):
friends had so many bodies did Oh yes, Paris the ctacombs,
Oh yeah, they should have gotten those. The problem with
those those is that they had been rotted. Though. You
need fresh bodies. You need fresh That's why you would
only have to guard your loved one's graves for a
few days, because after that then they're like, nay, we
don't really want that anymore. The medical students specific I know, honestly,
(16:44):
they want a fresh body just so they can like
it can be more like a realistic body, so that
they can figure out how to like heal people, uh whatever.
I mean, they probably learned some stuff on this right
on these bodies, on these cadavers, right, I mean they
were trying to learn stuff. I mean that was the point.
It wasn't just like a I mean it is kind
of a weird hobby being act not suggesting anyone does that. Yeah, anyway,
(17:10):
so people, they still they wanted more bodies. They need more.
Even with all the Gray Robin and all the ship
like that, it got so out of hand that there
were these two dudes who just what they did instead
of just like body snatching what they just started murdering people.
You know, they just were like, hey, you know these
this anatomus, this bro he needs some bodies, So why
(17:31):
don't we just kill people, you know, take out. It's like,
we don't even have to dig someone up, you know,
shoveling can be really hard. They're like, we're just gonna
kill them. So it was these two Williams. There's William
Burke and William Hare and they killed over the course
of ten months in eighteen twenty eight, they killed sixteen
(17:53):
people and sold them nice and fresh okay, nice fresh
corpses for the medical people. They actually came up with
a verb. It was like if you it was a
verb to mean like, if you were murdered in order
to be provided to like medical people, you got burped.
Oh oh my god. Wow that is bad. That's bad.
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Two questions one I forgot the second one. So we'll
see how much were they saw? Oh I remember how
much were they selling them? For A and B? How
are they killing them? Because I feel like did like
invocation no breath? Well some of them were suffocated, and
like some of them were like, well, you know, maybe
(18:37):
she was already suffocating and then they just helped her
on suffocating. So I feel like choking out people was
like a pretty good way to kill people. So you
could still like preserve most of the body because obviously
if you like stab them, you know that's not come
to be outers. Yeah, the inner or outould become outers
and they can't see. Yeah, you can't like study them
(18:58):
very well. So choking was one way that they did it.
And in terms of the price, I don't know exactly,
but it does seem like a pretty good price. This
seems pretty oother. People were making livelihoods off of like
body snatching. It was the med students like not like no,
it wasn't the med students. They were the med students
were like buying the bodies or it was like you know,
(19:21):
any sort of like medical practitioner would buy the bodies.
It's just other people who are like, oh, this is
my job. I snatched the bodies and give it and
then sell them. Basically what a what a job? What
a job? Job? Just like aren't what they used to
be honestly anyway, So m William Burke he ended up
getting executed after they caught them, and then his body
(19:44):
was given to dissection. So good I was hoping, So yeah,
very appropriate and so watch out for getting burked. That
literally sounds like, oh you've been punked burked. Then, like
the law people, people in charge of the law, they
were just like, hey, well maybe we should do something
(20:04):
about this body situation because it seems to be getting
a little out of hand with people just like murdering people.
So what they did was in eighteen thirty two, they
passed the Anatomy Act, which allowed people to dissect bodies
that were like donated, and also made it legal to
dissect bodies of like unidentified people who worked in workhouses
(20:24):
and people who volunteered. This didn't really slow down. This
didn't really slow down body snatching. What did really slow
it down was in the eighteen eighties when embalming became
a thing, because then you could preserve bodies for longer
and they didn't just fall apart and be useless because
you could really only use it for a couple of days.
But once you could embalm bodies, you could like look
(20:45):
at the same body for a longer period of time,
you didn't need to snatch as many bodies, and everyone
was happy. Hey, good, good conclusion. Everyone's happy. Now. Okay,
so now I guess people are just snatching bodies for
fun and not for medicine. So so there's not a
(21:08):
good conclusion. They were going somewhere, but they're all people
are always going to be killing people. Yeah, they're like,
that's just I suppose. So there's no there's not going
to be a world where people stop being crazy. That's true.
Speaking of killing, Nika is gonna kill on her story,
(21:32):
It's gonna be filled with twists and turns and creepy
wax things would be ever an ominous presence. Yes, there
is not just one wax museum, but two wax museums
in this story. Argue, kidding me, No, do I do
it for you guys? So let's get into the story. Um,
(21:54):
this is a it's a pretty bizarre story set in Arlington,
Texas in nineteen eighty seven. Um seven. Yeah, So I
don't know relatively recent we got late eighties whatever. I
don't know what was happening in the late eighties. I
wasn't born, Okay. I think the end Ago Girls released
(22:16):
their first album, There we Go, There we Go. We
got some trivia. So Patsy Wright was forty three years
old when she called her sister Sally at three am,
saying that something was really wrong. She had taken her
nightly ni quill, which she used to fall asleep almost
every night, and kind of her family and friends knew
(22:37):
that she had this habit. And she said, in slurred
words that her stomach was hurting and that she couldn't breathe.
And that's like weird. Niquill isn't supposed to do that.
Oh it shouldn't be laughing. Okay, is ni quill that strong? Yeah?
It kind of n it. It's I remember one time
I was like, I was not feeling so hot, and
(22:58):
so I took some ni quill, but like I had
to run an errand first, A well, not first. I
took the ni quill, ran the errand, and I was like, oh, shoot,
I need to get back before I died. That's scary.
But also this is a niquill from the eighties, so
I feel like it it was probably a little stronger
Umann in the eighties. Okay, when were you when we
(23:21):
were in wet year eighty eight? Oh my gosh, this
is a year before you were born. Of this is
the precursor to Taylor's conception this whole story right, well, yes,
this this means something for Taylor okay. So her sister
Sally and her husband, Sally's husband Um, immediately went over
to the rental the Patsy was staying in and the
(23:43):
door was locked, but the lights were on, so Stephen
the husband, broke a window and let Sally in And
when they found Patsy, she was unconscious and her eyes
were like open but foggy, like she wasn't really seeing,
and the alarm the Patsy had installed just a few
months prior didn't ring, so like it wasn't set up.
So Sally called the police and param Eddis, who arrived
(24:06):
pretty quickly, and they took Patsy to the emergency room,
but it was too late. She was declared deceased at
four or fifteen am. Wait was Stephen the sister's husband. Yes,
O husband's I know. And it gets crazier from there.
So Patsy was a beautiful, very wealthy Texas socialite and businesswoman.
(24:31):
She was a shareholder of the Southwest Historical Wax Museum
in Grand Prairie, Texas, which, oh yeah, which was worth
six million at the time. Good for her, It's pretty crazy.
I'm like, how does a wax museum make so much money? Anyway?
Her dad was an oilman with his passion for tex
In history, and then she and her sister grew up
(24:52):
like super privileged. They lived very sheltered lives in the
South and she was easily like a millionaire, her and
her sister, And she was in the process of moving
to the country. She had actually bought thirty acres of
property and a beautiful big house that was currently being renovated. Um.
She also had she bought this horse and a mare,
and she was going to start breeding them, and she
(25:14):
was beginning to ride in competitions, and she was kind
of getting into the world of fancy horse rearing essentially.
So her life was her or like she is me yeah, yeah,
well I hope not, but yeah, Um, her life was
going full speed ahead. Basically she loved life. And this
(25:36):
plus the fact that there was no suicide note in
her alarm, like her clock was even set for the
next day, and everyone who knew her said like she
was vivacious and like looking forward to the future and
blah blah, made it very easy to rule out suicide.
So this toxicology report confirmed that the Nike will Patsy
took was actually pure strict nan and oh I've talked
(26:02):
about it. It had enough poison to kill eight people,
and we've like we said, we've talked about this before,
but just to summarize, strictnine is a lethal poison that
is super hard to find. It used to be found
in like rat killer or like rodent poison or whatever,
but even now it's not really used for that because
it's so aggressive and kind of inhumane. But like even
(26:26):
the poisons that are rodent killers, they only contain three
percent of strictnine, and Patsy was killed with the powdered
pure version of strictnine. And it's a very very painful
way to die. The victim experiences suffocation, convulsions, and the
paralysis of the respiratory muscles before dying, and basically between
every convulsion there's like a moment of like no convulsions
(26:48):
when you feel normal, but you know it's like going
to come again. That usually happens like three times before
you die. So it is not a great way to go.
It's a very aggressive poison and very hard to come
by anyway. So the FBI ruled out product tampering since
there were no other poisonings from the lot number of
the night Will bottle, So it was clearly a murder,
(27:11):
but investigators didn't really know where to begin, Like they
knew it had to be someone who was closed with Patsy.
Since the killer knew her nighttime night will habit, her routine,
the killer obviously had access to her products and like
her bedside table and whatever like that is just it's
very intimate. So the boyfriend, yeah, well who knows, here
(27:31):
we go the boyfriend? What are you talking about? Always
the boyfriend, never the boyfriend. So Patsy had been married twice,
once to a man named Bill Wright. They had two kids,
and the split was very amicable, and he actually was
the executor of her estate in her will, so they
were on good terms. And then after they broke up,
(27:52):
she met this guy called Bob Cox who had he's
already suspicious Cox, Okay, who who had initially? He is
already suspicious because listen, he had initially called to sell
his wax museum collection to the Southwest Historical Wax Museum,
and Bob was married at the time, but he started
(28:15):
pursuing Patsy and she was like, no, you need to
break it off with your wife before we move any further.
So he did but also he had all those wax figures.
That's weird. Yeah, they ended up never buying them, which
is really funny. Good. So he did leave his wife,
and then in nineteen eighty three they were married, and
his wax museum had burned down in a fire. So
(28:37):
basically he moved to where Patsy was and Bob's ex
warned Patsy that Bob was a gambler and that he
was in debt, and sure enough, basically the moment they married.
Patsy says that Bob changed immediately. He was like verbally
abusive to herself and to her children, and she wanted
to stay in Arlington until her children graduated high school.
(28:58):
And he resented her, and like he resented Arlington because
it was like a small town. He would play poker
every single day at the country club he belong too,
and Patsy was paying for all their living expenses. Wow,
that's fucked up. I do not like that. It got
really bad when the IRS tried to tie Patsy's earnings
(29:18):
to Bob's tax debt, which was in the three hundred
thousand dollars range. Wow. Thankfully, thankfully, thankfully, she's very smart.
She was a very smart businesswoman. She had signed a
prenup to protect herself, and then she filed for divorce
a year after their wedding, and she also filed for
a restraining order a month after filing for divorce because
she said that Bob would follow her and park outside
(29:40):
her house at night. And then one question about this,
Bob said that it was because he was worried Patsy
would take his country club membership in the divorce. Okay,
Bob Cox is a dick. Yes, So at some point
in nineteen eighty six, Bob stopped stalking her and just
like went on to live his life. Happened you, Just like,
(30:03):
I'm done stalking. I don't know. I even stalkers get tired. Okay.
Empathy for stalkers, I'm kidding, they can all joy okay. Sally,
Patsy's sister, had also remarried. She was with the guy
we mentioned, Steve, who Patsy liked it first, but when
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she found out that just a few years after the wedding,
Steve spent all of Sally's inheritance yea, she did not
like him so much. Then both sisters had five hundred
thousand life insurance policies, and they had this buysell agreement together,
so like if one sister dies, the other had to
use the money to buy the deceased sister's share of stock,
so that way one sister remained sole owner of the museum.
(30:45):
I cannot believe that the wax Museum made so much
money anyway, and it was like such a prized whatever anyway,
So the museum's value had grown substantially. And then Sally
got cancer, and so both their grandparents and their parents
had died of cancer. So Patsy was like very worried
about Sally's health, and more than that, she really recognized
that if Sally died, Steve would end up with half
(31:07):
a million dollars and like the shares from the wax Museum,
and they didn't want that. So Sally got better. But
the sisters agreed to change the Bicell deal that they had,
and they had scheduled a meeting to change it, but
Patsy was killed two weeks before it happened. Interesting, so
Steve was a suspect as well, and he took two
(31:30):
polygraph tests and the first was inconclusive, and then the
second one he passed. Which polygraph tests you don't always.
I don't know, they're not very reliable. But also it
was the eighties. I don't know. It's like an at
home COVID test. I guess, so, yeah, it's gonna give
you a false positive. It's like things in the eighties
aren't reliable, like Taylor. I think Taylor's actually pretty reliable.
(31:54):
There were other suspects too, Like there was this couple,
Bill and Bonnie Alexander, who had sold Patsy the horse
that Patsy had bought, and they were actually boarding the
horse and taking care of it before Patsy moved to
the country. Patsy had also lived with them for a
month and she was taking writing lessons and they were
all very close. It gave me throuple vibes. Cph but
(32:15):
we will never know. And Bill and Bonnie cashed a
check from Patsy the day before she died, and it
was a four thousand dollars check for like writing in
competition fees, And according to them, Patsy had given them
a blank check and signed it saying, just like, put
whatever I owe you in there and cash it like
it's fine. And Patsy talked to her accountant that same
day that she gave them the blank check, and the
accountant asked if she had any big payments or withdrawals
(32:38):
that she should know about, because she was in the
process of withdrawing like one fifty K for her new
house in the country, and Patsy was like, no, but
I also feel like four K was probably not a
big deal for her, and so like the check went
through and that's probably why she didn't mention it to
the accountant, but that they were still a suspect because
people started saying that, I don't know, they like Bill
(33:02):
had an affair with Patsy, or Bonnie was jealous of
Patsy or whatever, or a bunch of rumors that actually
never proved to be true. Essentially, so they were other suspects.
And then about eleven months after Patsy's death, the Southwest
Wax Museum was destroyed by a fire, just like that
Dude's wax music very sketchy. Initially they thought it was
(33:25):
an electrical short, but then the fireman found that it
was actually arson. In a matter of minutes, the massive
museum was like totally on fire. It was a really
big building. And also the case file was stolen from investigators.
It's like very aggressive. All of the wax sculptures melted. Yeah,
they rebuilt it, but obviously like it wasn't the same. Sorry,
(33:46):
I was thinking of all the melted wax like figures
like that's actually kind of a cool museum. Was just
like all the melts, like slightly melted people Like if
Mam two sards like was on fire and then you
just had like a Brad Pitt wax sculpture that was
like slightly you would you would absolutely love. I'm developing
a plan now, oh ooh okay, wow, careful with some arson.
(34:10):
She'll just keep the temperature up so that they like
kind of slowly melt over, slowly melt and so it's
ever changing. Why is Angelina Jolie crying mommy? And it's like, yeah,
that's fine. Anyway, So that wax museum burned down. We
know that Bob Cox's wax museum also burned down, and
he was actually the primary suspect in all of this
(34:33):
because he sued the insurance company of his wax museum
that had burned down because they had not given him
the money that he was owed. But the insurance company
believed that he started the fire deliberately because he was
in terrible debt and the wax museum wasn't making any money.
And there was a trial that was supposed to happen
ten days after Patsy was murdered, and Patsy was going
(34:54):
to testify against her ex husband, and she knew things
and she was gonna talk despite him begging her to
change her story, but she wouldn't, and he refused to
take a polygraph test and was unco vertive an investigation,
but without solid evidence, he was left alone and the
case was never solved. I'm so sorry. And he died
(35:16):
I think like a couple of years ago, so we'll
never know. Did he die in an arson related and
said and no, I think it was just like natural causes,
being a dick, being hateful. Yes, exactly. Think he did it.
I think he did it too. Out of all of
the people, I think he did it. I think that
Stephen was kind of sketchy for sure, because they were
(35:38):
about to change that deal so that way he was
not going to have like the five hundred K life
insurance policy. But I think it's still all points to
Bob Cox. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I think the horse
did it. No, Taylor's very very effective. Four thousand dollars
for like horse things is not not plausible. Yeah, exactly.
(36:02):
So I'm like, I don't think it was a nice
couple and they should have been given more. No. No,
I'm just saying, like, that's that seems reasonable, like if
they were boarding them and lessons boarding her horses and stuff. Yeah,
it seems plausible based on the evidence that that was
a fair rate. You're right, I think they're fine, mister Cox.
(36:22):
What was the name Bill Bob. Also, I don't know
if horses would have the finesse of putting strychnine inside
like a ni quill bottle. No fence to horses. I'm
just saying they don't have thumbs. They don't have thumbs. Well, Nika,
thank you for that titillating story that has no conclusion.
M We'll be right back. Okay, guys, we're back with cadaver.
(36:46):
Gail's got one little part left about wax figures, okay,
because I think they're pretty creepy and weird, and I
think it's a weird part of the world that we have.
I feel like as a celebrity, it probably you get
either like your Hollywood star or you get like a
wax figure of you, and I don't I wouldn't want
(37:07):
one because what if it was bad? You know, no,
but that's funny, I don't know, probably funny. I would
be pretty offended. Yeah, Like remember the Nicki Minaje one
that was so terrible that was there was There's been
a few lately. Isn't there one that's specifically for like
like a museum that it's like bad wax figures or something.
(37:29):
Probably probably that's all of them. Okay, bad wax figures anyway,
they're pretty creepy because you know, they have that like
uncanny Valley thing where they're like kind of human but
like not exactly. Also, did they ever have wicks in them?
You know? What if that was just like a really
intense candle, like a really big human sized candle, I
(37:51):
feel like it'd be too tempting to light. Yeah, I
mean I would light it and then like ed sheering,
just like an air cheering candle, and then late his
face disappears. It sounds like a nightmare and sheer and
in particular, Yeah, um, I think he recently had one
revealed or something that I saw because I was looking
(38:12):
at I was like, yal do research on this, but
then I just looked at pictures anyway. So um sometimes though,
you know, sometimes you're like, hey, that look at that
wax figure. But then you're like, oh, oopsie, it's it's
actually just a corpse. Um. You know when that happens. Why,
no one, that doesn't happen to you, guys on the
reg No, no one. Okay, I feel like that would
(38:35):
happen to you more. Yeah, it's like once a week,
once a week, I'm always finding a wax corpse, just
lingering around, you know, why you are the way you are? Yeah,
they just find me. I don't know how anyway. Well, okay,
so here's what happened. This happened one time and it
wasn't to me. It was in nineteen seventy six, and
(38:58):
what had happened was that there is a film crew
and they're making a movie in a fun house in
Long Beach, California. Okay, and so you know, it was
like a whole sort of like amusement park situation. But
then the fun house had just like you know, different
type of figures and other stuff, and they're filming inside
of it. And one of the people on the crew
(39:19):
was like, oh, look at that wax figure. That's kind
of like it's it was like hanging from the gallows scene.
It was like an outlaw scene. And he was like, oh,
look at that wax figure. We kind of don't want
it in the shot. So one of the crew members
went over and was trying to like move it, but
then its arm fell off, and they're like, oh, that's
so silly of us that we broke their wax figure. Oopsies.
(39:41):
And then he was like, wait, why does this wax
figure have muscle and bone? Oh ah. Anyway, so then
they eventually, you know, there was a moment of like,
oh shit, I think this is just like a mummified
corpse that had been like had a thin layer of
(40:02):
wax on it, and indeed that's what it was. Um,
what they did is they called nine one one and
as a funny joke, they were like, hey, we have
a really dehydrated person here. Uh So they said that, yeah,
I know the time and place for jokes people, I
mean the person. It was clear that this person had
(40:22):
been dead of a while. Soho a podcast. Guys, everyone's
so ghost except for us anyway. So so they came
and they're like, okay, yeah, this is a dead person.
So then what they did is they took the body
over to the medical examiner and they're like, hey, what
the what the heck is up with this? And the
(40:43):
medical examiner, using science and stuff, was able to determine
that this person had died via gunshot wound, also had
had tuberculosis, and you know, also had bunions on their feet,
so they didn't have like good feet, like these were
toes you probably didn't want to be sucking on. Also, okay, okay,
I mean also he didn't really have fingers anymore because
(41:04):
at some point it seemed like they had been probably
knocked off post mortem. And yeah, so he had like
a thin layer of paint on him and a thin
layer of wax. And they also determined that he probably
died maybe somewhere between like nineteen oh five and nineteen
twenty because they determined that he specifically shot with a
bullet that was like used during that time, which I'm like, oh,
that's cool, that's cool. That Yeah, so he he was chilling, Yeah,
(41:29):
he was just chilling. So oh. Another freaky detail is
that they found both a penny from nineteen twenty four
and also ticket stubs that had been stuffed into his
mouth from a side show called Lewis Sonny's Museum of Crime.
So that's so weird. Why would they do that? Because
(41:49):
I feel like I do that to random shelves, Like
if I have extra random stuff that I don't want
to throw it away, but I also don't know where
to put right now, I'll just put it like in
a shelf. But a man's mouth is not a shelf.
Maybe it was like a good luck thing. I mean,
a man's mouth is not a shelf. I mean it
could be a cupboard. Sometimes it's a shelf for dad ass,
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depending on what's going on. But you know, maybe it's
a good luck thing of like you know, people do
weird things like you know, and like Florence, Italy, they
have this big sculpture of a pig and you like
rub the nose for good luck, or you throw the
coins in the fountain. Sometimes maybe putting your ticket stubs
in a dead man's mouth is good luck. Here stick
just feels so niche. I don't know, but yeah, maybe,
(42:34):
I mean this was like the Midwest, So are not
the Midwest. It's more of like the the Midwest. That's
below the midwest's like Kansas, Oklahoma, whatever that's called where
all the Square states are. I thought you said we
were in California. We were in California, but there's more.
He's been all over the place. Okay, my gosh, Okay,
we world traveler. So the thing is like this side
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show that they found the tickets from that was in Oklahoma,
or that was in Kansas, wait, which one wasn't it's
one of those one of the Square states. They're all
the same, but they but they determined using all of
this evidence that this guy who was dead, he was
an outlaw named Elmer McCurdy. Okay, and Elmer mccurty had
been a dead man who had been on display for
(43:18):
decades at like various places. And what happened was they
thought that he was like he was well, he seemed
like he was a really shitty outlaw and he died
in nineteen eleven in Oklahoma because he tried to do
like a train hist to steal like hundreds of thousands
of dollars, but then he hoisted the wrong train, so
instead he only got it was like a passenger train instead,
(43:39):
so he only got forty six dollars, sort of like,
you know, three hundred thousand dollars oopsy expectation versus execution.
That's really sad. Yeah, And then well he was really
sad about it, so he went like drank and was
like laying in this hay loft thing and just like
being sad and emo. But you know, the police were
still going to try to get him, so they like
(44:00):
had a two thousand dollars worn out for him. So
then they found him in the hay loft and they
were like, hey, like calm down, you rob that train,
and he's like, man, I don't want to. So they
had a shootout for like an hour, and then he
got shot in the chest and he died. So then
they took him over to this like funeral home and
this guy like embalmed him and did all this work
(44:21):
to make his body look like slightly better. But then
he was mad because no one paid for his services.
So what he did was like, well, if no one's
gonna pay for this body or like claim this body
or like pay me, I'm just gonna you know, prop
him up and put him on display and you can
pay a nickel to see the outlaw dead body. Oh
my gosh. And it became a very popular date spot, okay,
and a lot of people want it was a bigger contraction,
(44:43):
and a lot of people approached him being like, hey,
can we have this body to put in our sideshow
or whatever. And he was like no, no, no, no no, no,
you can't. That's weird. I can only profit off this
body or his family can come and claim him. So
like five years later, these dudes approach him and are like, hey,
where this guy Elmer's brothers. We've come to claim the body.
And he's like, okay, here habit. But they weren't his brothers.
(45:06):
They were just these people who had They didn't, no,
they didn't. But they had a carnival in Kansas and
they wanted to put him on display because you know,
he was a hot commodity. So they got his body.
They're like, oh, yeah, we're taking him back to California,
but like, no, they're taking him to Kansas, And so
he was on display there for a little bit. His
(45:28):
body was on display as um the outlaw who would
never be captured alive. And then in nineteen twenty two,
McCurdy was bought by another dude or this whole like
these two the two brothers. Their whole operation was bought
by this other guy, and then he displayed McCurdy with
some other like wax replicas of other outlaws, which I
(45:50):
think at this point, I'm like, it's really unclear whether
or not they knew he was like a real dead
person versus just like a wax figure type thing. Anyway,
But then that guy, he the guy who owned that one,
he died, so that dude's brother lent out the body
to a filmmaker who was making a film, and they
(46:12):
used his body as like a display in the lobby
of this theater just to like promote the film. And
then they were like, Okay, we don't need this body anymore,
so they put the body in a Los Angeles warehouse,
and then another filmmaker used it for like a display
item and then also used it in a film. And
then that's like in the sixties. And then this guy
(46:35):
who owned the Hollywood Wax Museum, he bought the figure,
but he didn't like it on display because he said
it wasn't life like enough wowow, which is pretty funny.
And then it was finally sold to the amusement park
where he was found. So he was just like going
all over the place, you know, on display, and then
(46:57):
finally in nineteen seventy seven they put him down to
rest in a plot in Guthrie, Oklahoma. So that is
the long journey of Elmer McCurdy, who is more successful
as a dead man than an outlaw. Oops, that's crazy, yep.
So just now that after you die, you could you know,
(47:19):
it's kind of like a van Go situation, like, you know,
he wasn't successful during his life, but afterwards he's a
monumental artist. And Elmer McCurdy is the same thing as
van Go basically. So yeah, sometimes you know, maybe in
a wax museum in the future you just got is
that a wax figure or is it a man who's
been dead for forty years? You know, ask yourself that
(47:42):
every single time you go into a wax museum. Now, yeah,
every time you see a wax figure, is it a
corpse or is it is it Ed Sheeran or is
it Dead Edge? Yeah? And Ed Sheeron has is like
the lizard man right now, Like that's the Ed cheering
that is moving around. The Dead Edge is actually the
wax figure, yeah and cheering? Yeah, yep. Well, guys, this
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has been another episode of cadaver Gals. Um your your
news source for people who have died, So I truly
hope we are not your news source. We're news. This
the up to date news on things that happened thirty
two thousands of years ago. Okay, thanks for listening everyone,
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We'll talk at you next week. Cadaver Gals is a
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