August 11, 2021 • 47 mins
A man gets eaten by pigs, and you can be eaten by your cats and dogs. And Taylor talks about horses.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
School of Humans. Hello, Welcome to Cadaver Gause, the critically
reviewed podcast where we talk about all of the ways
people have died to cope with our own mortality. Critically reviewed.
I am Taylor along with Gabby. I like how you
start with the bitterness. I like, I appreciate that, and
(00:30):
I think that's a good oment for today's session. Also, hello,
I got scared right now. I thought I was just
about to get in trouble. Yes, and Nika, Yes, my
um ass has actually been critically reviewed by every barista
in Atlanta, so I know a lot about critical reviews. Great,
is it acclaimed or reviewed? I like, you didn't say claimed.
(00:56):
Oh that's like this guy about my stand up recently
at a show, he was like, your comedy is really bland,
which I was like, okay, but I usually think my
com he's too weird to understand. So what I think
I was like trying to question him about the criticism.
What we realize is that he was trying to say,
I have a monotone, so, oh, that's not about your commonness,
just your voice. Yeah, just it's not I have maybe
(01:17):
good jokes, but they're terrible to listen to through the
vehicle of my voice. Okay, great, So today we were
pretty much gonna be talking about my hell So, Gabby's
gonna tell us how Bacon fights back, and Nika is
going to tell us about death while riding a horse.
So really great, but you get fighting back. I know
(01:38):
you didn't just refer to the animal the pig as Bacon.
Yeah I did. She's leaning into it. Yeah, the episode
is all about animals, so sorry, Taylor. So today's trigger
warnings are basically, if you see any part of yourself
in me, you're gonna be triggered. So things like animals
consuming humans, blood go or heart attacks, death, I'm gonna
(02:00):
say it, animal cruelty probably, and maxia and eating disorders
and balloon yeah, and a arexia eating disorders and really
great stuff like that. Okay, great, cue the music. I
(02:27):
don't even know who should go first because it's both
both are gonna trigger me, but I but Gabby. I'm
gonna choose Gabby, so take it away. Okay, Yeah, so
I guess this is the Bacon story, um, but it's
actually about pre Bacon, which is called a pig. I
don't believe in jail, but Gabby gets jail, right, now
(02:49):
going to jail. Yeah, Okay, So this is about a
guy named Terry and he was living up in Oregon, Okay.
He had a farm and the farm was really good
for him because he had he was a Vietnam War veteran,
and so he had had some war trauma. I guess
the true warning war trauma. I already said about wars
be happening. So he had that, he had PTSD and
(03:09):
so kind of after the war, and also when he
got a little bit older, he started a farm and
rule organ and he had a variety of animals. His
brother was like, yeah, yeah, So he had like some
turkeys and some other birds, and notably he had his
I'll just call them regular pigs. He had some pigs,
and they were some big daddy pigs too. They were
(03:30):
just like Gimungo huge pigs. All of them were like
seven hundred pounds. He had some sALS and also one boar,
and his boar had a fun name. His boar was
named Teddy. So cute. Yeah, so Terry's the dude. Teddy
is the pig, the mail pig. And apparently, you know,
(03:52):
whenever like the pigs would have kids, little piglets, he
would then give the piglets to like the kids in
the area to have, which I was like, I that
part that was just like a sentence that was in
several articles. But I do wonder about, you know, just
giving the kids some piglets. I wonder if they asked
their parents first or otherwise just like brought home some pigs. Yeah,
(04:12):
I'd be mad if my kid just came home with
a pig. I'd be like, um, what do you want
me to do with this? I mean, don't get me wrong,
they're cute and everything, but like you gotta know how
to take care of them and do all the things.
You can't just like willy nilly be getting pigs. You can't.
That is a big, big thing for cadaver gause. You
can't just willy nilly be getting pigs. That's what we're saying.
Especially these pigs they were. Yeah, because usually, you know,
(04:35):
fun facts, most domesticated pigs, usually they'll be more like
the two hundred and fifty to three hundred pound range.
But again, these were seven hundred pound. Hold up, hold up,
let's let's take a moment. So this man was giving
away pigs piglets, but they were seven They would grow
to be seven hundred pounds. Willy nilly, Willy nilly. I mean,
(04:58):
I guess it just depends because I don't know if
he it was unclear whether or not. It didn't seem
that he you know, processed I he killed the pigs
or anything. So I don't okay, I don't know what
he was using the pigs for. Maybe he like fed
them a lot, maybe they were special fat pigs. But um,
that's just very big. That's very large for a which
(05:20):
is not you know, unusual for pigs. Cadavergaws, the pig wing,
this is what this episode is. But you know, pigs
can get that big, you know, but these in general,
they are not that big. But if this is America, okay,
so we have big pigs here, and I don't just
mean Republicans, Okay, um, okay, good job. Okay. So one
(05:43):
day I was about to call him Teddy, Terry, Terry
the Man, Teddy the pig. Okay. So one time, Terry
the Man, he was you know, messing around, you know,
doing his farm duties, et cetera, and one of the
pigs bit him. Okay, which is so rude of that pig.
But also Terry apparently had accidentally stepped on a piglet,
(06:05):
so it might have been one of the lady pigs,
one of the sALS uh. It might have been like
a protective thing, because apparently pig mamas can be pretty
protective of their little babies, except for when they're having them.
It's really important to get the piglets out of the
way because often lots of piglets die because the mama
pigs crush them as they're coming out because they're so big.
So if you have a pig having a baby, a
(06:27):
little hot tip from the cadaver guse no, you would
probably know more about that if you had a pig
having piglets pigs, you know, don't listen to this. Don't
listen to this episode. You'll be like these stupid girls.
You know, when I think of pigs, I think of
like teacup piglets, like as like domesticated pigs. I forget that,
you know, we be eating them. Yeah, maybe scream and stuff. Yeah,
(06:50):
oh yeah. I watched Spirited Away for the first time
yesterday and um, there's a lot of pigs in the movie.
I won't ruin it for anyone, but the pigs are
squealing and they're all together, they're bunched up, and I
my whole heart, I can't take that. I can't see
a vegan documentary like, I cannot do it. I will
get traumatized. Anyway. Pigs be big and they'd be squealing
(07:13):
go ahead. Yeah, so one of the pigs, I'd bet him,
And then Terry's brother came over and was like, yeah,
what's up, what's going on. He's like, well, one of
my pigs bet me. And he's like, oh, shooters, what
are you gonna do? And Terry was like, oh, I
guess I'm probably gonna have to, like, you know, put
him down, kill him or something. But then his brother
came back I think a few weeks later, and Terry
had decided against it actually because I guess he had
(07:35):
a love for his thicky daddy piggies, so he didn't
kill that pig. That pig was around. But yeah, I
mean pigs sometimes they can be aggressive, like you know,
as I was saying, sometimes it's usually more wild pigs
that will be more aggressive. Obviously, that makes sense, that
is how logic works. And so in general, you know,
(07:56):
domesticated pigs, there isn't really like really any accounts of
them hurting people necessarily, but like with wild pigs, like
wild hogs, Farrell hogs. We all know about the Farrell hogs.
They sometimes get people into trouble. And there was in
twenty nineteen there's this lady in Texas because Texas is
like overrun by Farrell pigs. There's just like a million
(08:19):
pigs just running around Texas. And this lady one time
she was walking from her car into her house and
she like before she got to like the front door
of her house, which was like pretty close spy, she
got attacked by a herd of wild pigs and she
died from the pig attacked. Pigs like wild boar are
(08:39):
very scary and very dangerous. Yeah. Also, the thing is
like these pigs, some of them are super pigs because
they're like super smart pigs. Horrified. I love it. I
is the one the bit aren't Terry Terry? Terry? Was
that a super pig? Did she come back and haunt him?
(09:01):
He was a dome that was a domesticated pig. And
we'll get back to Terry because you know this is
cadaver gals. I was doing some foreshadowing, but a little
more detail tho scares me though, you know, you see
pictures of those influencers and like, I don't even know
Malodi's bora Bora. I don't know. Would they take pictures
with the pigs in the ocean, like the wild pigs
(09:22):
in the ocean. I have no interest whatsoever in being
near those pigs, none at all. But let's be real,
those are relatives. I mean, they're not maybe they're not domesticated,
but they're around people all of the time. Oh yeah,
like they know. Remember we've talked about this with the
wolves the other week. Yes, yes, we did. Wolf girl Taylor, Taylor,
(09:44):
you got a furry are you? No? I just I
would be not I would not be judgment to be honest,
I've questioned myself, you know. So I just want to
put it out there. It's okay, No, Taylor loves the pigs,
Niko wants to be the pigs. I am the pig.
So here we go. Gobby's final form. Okay, go ahead,
(10:05):
final form. But actually I am since the cadavergals, I
am fearmongering and they're actually you know, they're not that.
I mean, they do be attacking people out in the wild.
The wild pigs do. But in terms of official reported
deaths by wild pigs in the United States since eighteen
twenty five, there have only been five, so pretty low risk.
(10:28):
That's a lot lower than I would than I would think,
But there might be a lot of unreported pig deaths,
so we don't know. Continuous fear mongering. He's like, these
are the facts, but who knows. Do we have trust
those facts? But facts can be different in the future.
We're gonna go in our cadaver gals time machine just
(10:50):
to calculate this with Tennessee Williams and Nicholas Cage to
calculate pig deaths. Okay, let's go back to Terry. Why
don't we So you know, he's doing his farm thing,
just whatever, and this is in like twenty twenty twelve,
and yes he was. He's at the age of sixty
nine at this point. I'm not at sixty nine. I
(11:11):
can't do anything about that, Okay, I totally miss that
was sixty nine. Yeah, like the sex position. Yeah, I
didn't want to bring it up, but that was literally
his age, okay, okay, okay, But anyway, so it's the
end of September in twenty twelve and another one of
(11:31):
his family members comes by his house and they can't
find him. He's missing. Where where's Terry? Where is he?
And they walk around and then eventually they get to
the enclosure where the pigs are kept. And first they
spotted his dentures, and then they spotted some parts of
(11:52):
his body. No, his dentures. Yeah, he was sixty nine.
He had fake teeth. Teeth, No, I know what, I
know what dentures are. I just the thought of a
pig raring dentures came into my and I'm sorry, Okay,
the pig was no, he didn't like the dentures. That
this is now that line of disrespect on our show.
(12:18):
But yeah, so um and so they were like, oh shit,
I'm sure they said a lot of things, but anyway,
so the pigs had eaten him, okay. And the thing though,
is they were never able to establish why the pigs
ate him because so much of his body was consumed. Obviously,
(12:39):
the pathologist and that and et cetera couldn't ascertain what
happened because there was not enough body left for them
to determine what happened. And he was like, you know,
the pathologist was like well, theoretically, what could have happened is,
you know, he might have had a heart attack or
you know, some sort of other more you know, naturally
occurring sudden thing happened. I forgot all words just now. Um,
(13:03):
you might have had a heart attack or something, and
he might have fallen to the ground. And because pigs
are omnivores, you know, they do eat vegetables and they
also eat meat, they could have been just eaten him
out of hunger, because that that's an option. They're gonna
do it, you know, because they eat a variety if
they're just like us, pigs are just like us. But
the pathologists could not rule out they could not rule
(13:24):
out whether or not the pigs deliberately attacked him, knocked
him over, killed him, and ate him. They could not
rule that out because that is something that could have happened.
So that Are there any other instances in history where
pigs have like gotten together and like revolted against their master? Yeah?
(13:48):
And that what is that nonfiction book? Uh? The famous
one that is a fiction book? Oh? What the Animal House.
Well here's the thing, though, this hasn't I looked around
and there really aren't that many, you know, domesticated pig deaths.
You know, there was the five feral pig deaths. But
(14:10):
what actually is very dangerous is cattle. Okay, cattle are
actually the bad boys of the farming industry because they
account for about twenty two deaths a year. Okay, so
twenty two people die, usually from blunt force trauma of
the cattle attacking them. And there's this one study that
came out in two thousand and nine that said this
(14:31):
really spooky thing that it said that seventy five percent
of these cattle deaths were deliberate on the sake of
the cattle. So yeah, I mean they talked with the cattle.
Taylor loves the probably problematic, but what does it mean
to be deliberate as an animal? You know? But they
(14:53):
I think they mean it as like the cattle. You know,
the person was doing something whatever, but then the cattle
attacked them, as opposed to like, you know, they ran
into the cattle. I don't know. So I have a
lot of opinions and thoughts and stories on this, I
bet you do, but I will try and limit it.
Towser huge and they're not. I don't feel like I
(15:15):
could be attacked for this but I don't feel like
they're that smart. So you don't like they're not as
smart as pigs for sure. Yes, but I can also
tell you I had this horse and loved her, but
she hated men. And so if she was like turned
out in the pasture and there was a man in
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the ring with her in the pasture with her, she
would literally chase him down and like go after him.
So I don't know, like that that could have been
some sort of trauma that she had that I don't know. Also,
mayors are a little bit moody, ladies. Mayors are so moody.
(15:58):
But anyway, I digress, it could be some sort of
who knows. I mean, it could have been like just
a behavioral change, because some of the examples of the
cattle was like, oh there was like there was a
cow that was always known as being aggressive a bowl specifically,
and that had attack someone while they were just like
milking another cow and then that cow just like rammed them.
(16:19):
Well that was exactly My next question is it was
it a dairy cow versus a beef cow, because there
are differences obviously, Well, this one was a man cow,
so he probably wasn't milk being milked. Well, no, but
you have to have them to breed them. Oh that
there's like completely separate breaths. We could go. I feel
(16:40):
like I'm in an interrogation. Now, I'm like, I don't know. No,
that's fine, Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna staller in her
feminist horse to explain myself and I will take us
completely full circle back to the pigs. So I went
to college to be and I was going to be
a vet. That's what I wanted to be when I
grew up. It turns out I didn't like all of
(17:01):
the labs. They made me cry because I was having
to dissect all kinds of things and they made me
Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh. Have you seen the
movie Raw? No, Okay, you need to watch it, Taylor,
you need to watch it. No, anyway, keep going, but
everyone could ever if you like gruesome and but really
good filmmaking, you should watch Raw. Okay, go ahead. So
(17:23):
so anyway, full circle one. Do you want to hear
a fun pig fact? Yes? Sure, Um. They produce the
most sperm relative to their body type, or relative to
like the body size. So that body type, it's an
(17:43):
hour glass about no, no, um, it's a hundred times
that of a human. I not think I was gonna
sit down today in the afternoon with my glass of
water and listen to you guys talk about pig sperm
like that was not really in my ends today. How
(18:07):
could it not be in your plan? It is? That's
fair anyway, So I'm back to the pigs. Okay, Gabby,
congratulations Taylor. I'm sorry that you never got to learn
about fun animals. But anyway, so in the fearmongering, yeah,
it's the cattle who seemed to, you know, be the
more quote unquote dangerous farm animal. So watch out, you know,
(18:28):
if you're on near cow. Actually don't want don't even
watch out. It's not even a real risk. Okay, guys,
everything's fine. But there was like in this study they
did mention. I couldn't find any more details on this,
but there have been times where like different farm animals
have banded together to attack a person. Okay, isn't that fun?
(18:50):
Like a little pig and cow and goat army. Oh
my gosh, I grew up watching Have you guys seen
the movie Chicken Run? Yeah, okay, that's how I picture
any farm animal Like banding together and they did it queens.
Oh was that the claymation one? Yeah? Oh it's so scary.
It is scary for really traumatize me as a child. Um. Yeah,
(19:13):
I couldn't eat chicken pie for like the longest time
after I watched that. I still ate it later though,
but um, I'm horrified. Gabby, Um, watch out, but don't
actually watch out. Everything is fine. What happened to our friend? Sorry?
I mean, I know he died, but like they never
feared anything out. Where did his pigs go? Oh? Yeah,
(19:34):
when they do with their pigs, you know, Oh, for
your sake, Taylor. They now live in the house and
are very happy, and you know, they're strictly on a
salad diet. Because they feel bad about what they did.
They went to go live on a farm somewhere. They
went to go. They went to this special farm after that.
(19:54):
I don't know what happened to the pigs afterwards, because
I am bad at journalism. Oh, I didn't want I
didn't want to call up anybody be like, hey, I
saw the story from like nine years ago. Question quick
cue what happened? Oh no, all right, well Gabby, thank
(20:16):
you for that. I apologize for my diverting the story
to pigs Burn Taylor. We knew it was gonna happen.
We knew this episode you're going to have some fun facts.
Oh yeah, I've got more coming at you after break. Okay,
welcome back. I'm sorry if this makes you cry. But
(20:41):
is your pet gonna eat you? Probably? Um ooh I
love this question. Yea, So we're gonna specifically talk about
the Jimmy's, the Josie's, the kim Cheese, and the Gusses
of the world. Okay, cats and dunks, yes, aka cats
and dogs. Oh my god, what if all of our
pets got together and started a little arm they had
(21:05):
matching outfits. They can they can just take me. I
don't care. There's just something about like cats and dogs
holding hands and plotting evil that makes me just I
just want to give them the world. You know, we
should make an album cover of all of our pets,
just their little paws holding hands. That's what really got me,
you know the pause. Okay, well this is going to
(21:28):
take a very different turn. But basically, you know you've
heard stories about like when people have died and then
their cats or dogs or other pets, birds, hamsters eat
their owners. So but hamsters also eat their young sometimes,
so yeah, so that's not a surprise. Never trust a
hamster exactly. Okay, So basically the question is are dogs
(21:53):
or cats more likely to eat you? While there's a
question right while the answer is your dog, gus, you're
so guilty. Well it's just funny because everyone talks about
cats being so devious and dogs being so loyal. But look,
look now the dog loyally eats your body, here's what happens.
It's a real friend. Yeah, so here's what potentially happens.
(22:16):
We don't know this for sure because we're we are
not dogs and we are not cats in fact, but
basically cats are kind of just like lazy and like
me whatever, whereas dogs will be like, you know, if
they see something happen to their humans, say he has
a heart attack or what have you, the dog comes
over and they'll typically like lick at you or nudge
(22:37):
you with their nose or something like that. But if
they're not getting the reaction out of you, they get
a little bit more frantic and upset, and then they
start kind of like nibbling on you, and then it's
kind of keeps going from there. The most common areas
and this happens about twenty four percent of dogs will
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beget will begin consuming their owners within twenty four hours.
That's upsetting. I know you're upsetting people right now. I
know no people are upset. But here's the face because exactly, okay,
go ahead, exactly. So the thing is is they get
frantic and like dogs that have like anxiety and like
(23:19):
separation anxiety are thought to be worse about this. So
Gus would definitely consume me quickly, I guess. But he's
so little, he has so little spawl and cute and sweet.
You'd only eat like half your face, I think, yeah,
but a lot of it. That's in other things. It
depends on how much, like how big the dog is,
Like a little chihuahua, they would eat everything. Who are
(23:39):
you kidding? That's true, like little or dogs aren't capable
of eating quite as much because they're smaller. But there
was actually an instance where this dog, despite even having
food readily available in his bowl, he still consumed his
owner or like begin so and they typically, like I said,
go for your face or like your hands, feet, like
(24:00):
extremity is they don't like straight up go for your
torso so they're just like that kind of like further
indicates that they're perhaps just like trying to wake you
up and like get you, get you moving and grooven,
but sadly so how traumatic for the dog. This is
an our cat. The cat typically doesn't there. They don't
really even care that much. They're just like men whatever,
(24:22):
they don't notice. And my other in this I didn't
find anywhere. But I am just also guessing that cats
are a little bit more self sufficient than dogs. Like
cats can light their escape artists, they can get out.
They could find a way to get out or get
a mice or squirrels or whatever, and so they could
still I feel like, be okay, but little little Gussie
(24:42):
still needs me, you know, even after death. Yeah, I mean,
I feel like you've done something wrong if you die
and your dog doesn't eat you. I honestly, honestly, you
didn't foster our codependent relationship with your dog, loser, So insummation,
(25:03):
dogs will very like we eat you. Doesn't matter how
close you are, how sweet they are, how well trained
they are. Um, it's really just because they love you. Um,
there we go, all right. Nika changed the subject to
a slightly different talk. Okay, Okay, well I think I'm
gonna make this better because we're going to the Roaring twenties.
(25:27):
Love that fun, the current twenties, the Crying twenties. Yeah
that this is not this is the crying twenties. We're
going to the Roaring twenties. Okay, the nineteen twenties. This
story is horse adjacent, horse themed, so obviously shout out
to Taylor like a horse girl, Taylor Titty Church. Yes
(25:47):
that is her equestrian name. Okay, I did. I did
write this in my outline. Do I sound natural? Okay?
Yea off the cough. That was really good, thank you.
I'm so off the half. Okay. So we're going to
meet this guy. Exciting um. His name's Frank Hayes. Okay.
(26:09):
He was a twenty two year old Irish American, you know,
good immigrant and blood, all of that good stuff. Hard worker.
He was making his way in New York. You know.
He was working as a stableman, which is basically someone
who tends to horses, and in this case he was
like stable. He was no quite not actually he was
(26:31):
probably struggling a little bit. And he also trained them sometimes,
and he was very good at his job. But he
was ambitious, as all Irish Americans in the twenties in
New York are am I right, beta boom but a boom? Wait?
Is that a stereotype about Irish pr is it about
(26:51):
how they're drunk? Wait? I don't get you just saying that. Oh.
I was saying, they're ambitious, they want to work hard.
We're immigrants, you know they Oh yeah, potatoes? Oh my god. Anyway,
you know, I'm so sorry. Sorry, Okay, I hate one.
White people are like I've been discriminated against. I am Irish.
I'm like, shut the fuck up. Can where's my gold? Oh?
(27:20):
That was offensive? No, why do you ask me to
do a consense if you know I'm going to do
a bad job because we want you to alienate more
of our listeners. Oh my god. Okay. Anyway, So he
was working real hard as you know. Oh, and he
had his ambitions of becoming a jockey. That's what he
wanted to do. So finally, on June fourth, nineteen twenty three,
(27:43):
in New York's Belmont Park, he got his chance. This woman,
miss am Freeling, wanted her horse named sweet Kiss. Okay,
I have feelings about horse names. It was only Sweet Kiss.
Aren't there names supposed to be like the whole, like
at least a minute long to say each of them.
(28:03):
I feel I don't know. I feel like any horse
that I've met has always been named something like a unicorn.
P sweet Kids' kids aren't even freaking yeah, Taylor's feminist horse,
whispers of Moonlight. Um, who the fuck? I don't even
know how you would call that? Hey, hey, whispers of
(28:23):
They had a stable name and a show name. What
was Moonlight's stable name? Um, whispers or Princess? Okay, anyway,
my name is Whispers of Moonlight. But I go by Princess.
Oh that is fascinating and beautiful. Um, I cannot relate
(28:44):
lovingly Taylor. But okay, Um, so asked, and I told
you know, and then thank you for telling, Thank you
for telling. So she was looking for a jockey, um,
and she was obviously having trouble finding a first rate
jockey at such short notice procrastinators. Am I right? Okay? So? Um.
She knew Frank because he had trained Sweet Kiss in races,
(29:06):
and she was like, hey, I know you have ambitions
of being a jockey. Why don't you try to you know,
this specific race with Sweet Kiss. He jumped at the
opportunity and then she was like, wait, you're one hundred
and forty two pounds. You're not going to make the cut.
Never mind. He was like, no, no, no no, no, I'll
lose the weight. I'll qualify, it'll be great. She was like, okay,
I guess, so, how skinny do you have to be
(29:28):
to be a jockey? Max is one thirty pounds. So,
and it was on short notice, but obviously this was
a big deal and no one really believed in him.
They were like that, boy, hey, he's like young in
it don't matter, you know what I mean. Like the
way people won't talk in New York. Um, so sorry,
(29:48):
nineteen twenties in New York accent I cannot do. I
can't do any accent actually okay. So it was just
as intends to disagree. Oh oh, it's understandable. So no
one believed in him, you know, classism, odds were against him.
He had never won a race, he had never raced
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a race before. But he quickly got his ship together.
He trained harder than ever before. Okay, rocky theme song,
and then he had to go, obviously on a very
strict diet to meet the requirements needed to race. Now,
I didn't know this, Um, it kind of actually shocked me.
But in the nineteen twenties and thirties, most jockeys, as
I recently said, could not be over one thirty pounds,
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and the ideal weight, it seems, was like one hundred
and ten pounds. That is very small. I have not been,
you know, around one hundred pounds since I was like twelve.
Just my thighs I think are one hundred pounds, and
they were very strict about it, like if you were
even a little bit over, you could not race, period.
And I read recently that the Kentucky Derby requires jockeys
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to be less than one hundred and twenty six pounds
and there's a height requirement to it there. I didn't
read that there was a hype requirement, but that most
jockeys are short because even though there's not a hype requirement,
you have to be very very small, lean thin. I
mean literally, that's like that's like the average size of
I don't know, like a preteen like I just that's
(31:12):
just bananas to meum, and like a tiny ballerina. I
mean literally, it's like the same kind of you know restrictions. Okay, yes,
Gus is Gus a jockey, He's never seen a horse continue.
Oh what he would lose? His whispers of moonlight is
(31:35):
that you let's band against Taylor. Um okay, So that
has obviously caused a lot of body image issues and
eating disorders and jockeys. Apparently. I read that there was
these there were these things called heaving bowls, which were
porcelain bowls that would be in the jockeys rooms. Um,
so they could throw up before a race, or after
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they ate, or before stepping on this scale. And then
these were taken away only ten years ago at the
track where like the Kentucky Derby happens, which is extremely recent,
and just took me by surprise, Like I was like, oh,
this is really yeah. Were you like good, like happy
about them taking that away or were you like, no,
(32:19):
that's not you know, that's not stopping anyone. Unfortunately, I
know it's Yeah. I read an interview they were like
toilet bows bowls still exists bowls. Where the fuck did
that come from? Yes? Well, anyway, so Frank was obviously
training hard and losing weight and um, oh my gosh.
I also read that some jockeys stick to a diet
of less than six hundred calories per day, which is
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kind of what he was doing as well. Again, that
is very unhealthy and unsafe. That is not the safe
way of losing weight. So he was doing all of
these things to prepare for his debut, and he made
it happen. He got to one hundred and thirty pounds,
just barely, but got there. And when he entered the
jockeys room, all these jockeys were like surprised at how
excited he was, and we're surprised that he had even
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made the cut. And as he waited at the starting post,
he was heard saying to his fellow jockeys, I'm not
gonna do an accepts gonna say it. Today's a good
day to make history. So oh my gosh, like he's,
you know, doing his dream. And it seems like he
was a really good trainer. Ano there was a crowd favorite.
His name was Gimmy again like no long horse name.
I don't know. Maybe I had to get long because
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all of them got taken. Okay, well that makes more sense.
Does every horse name have to be totally unique? I
mean they're registered. Yeah, Okay, I don't know that. I
mean not every horse name, you know what I mean,
like if they're going to be racing or whatever, if
they're like or competing, then yeah, okay that makes sense. Wow,
that's amazing. Well, this horse's name was Gimmey and he
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had been killing it lately. Everyone was betting on this horse.
He was like the prize horse, right. But when the
shot went off and the horses started racing, Sweet Kiss
was in the lead. Okay, sweet Kiss, I know him now.
It was a two mile course with twelve jumps, and
Haze and Sweet Kiss were doing the damn thing. It
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was impressive and professional and graceful. People rose to their
feet as he beat Gimme and crossed the finish line first. Yeah, yeah,
he won. It's amazing now it had been I know, yes,
now he had been looking like m Hayes was whispering
into Sweet Kiss his ear as he raced because he
was like slumped over on the horse, and everyone was like,
(34:29):
oh my gosh, the bond between horse and man like
so beautiful. And then um the horse kept racing a
little bit and then stopped about one hundred yards after
crossing the finish line. And as Misfrailing ran down to
congratulate Frank, he fell off the horse face first. No oh.
A physician ran up to him, took his pulse and
(34:50):
declared him dead. Oh my goodness, well we are on
good DA regals. So it seems like he had a
heart attack mid race and managed to stay in the saddle.
And when that is so impressive, it's insane. It's hard
enough to stay in the saddle when you're trying to
(35:11):
stay in the saddle. Yeah, but when your body gives up,
you know, his body said, let's give him this one
last thing. So he's the only person to ever win
a sporting event wild dead, yeah, I mean yeah. And
then Sweet Kiss got a really bad reputation because jockey's
it seems like jockey's tend to be a little superstitious.
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So she was actually given the name sweet Kiss of Death.
And she never wrote again. And then Hayes was buried
three days later with the writing silks that he wore
in his first and only race. I mean, that is
so sad, But at the same time, like early retirement,
that's okay for her. Oh you're talking at the horse, yeah,
(35:54):
But like also dying as wine yeah, it seems like
they think it was probably a heart attack that kind
of came on from. At first, they were like, oh,
it's the excitement of the race, but then they realized
he was like starving himself and super dehydrated and like
overworked to get to the weight that he needed to
to race, and that's what caused his death. That's so sad,
(36:16):
but I mean, yeah, yeah, you have to take care
of yourself. People. How are you going to follow your
dreams if you're dead? You know exactly? Anyway, Yes, shall
we take a break and come back so I can
talk more about horses? Yeah, okay, oh of course, all right,
welcome back. Um Nika just told us about this story
(36:40):
about the jockey who sadly died while riding a horse.
But at least he was doing what he loved and
he was still a winner winner chicken dinner. Speaking of
chicken dinner, horse dinner. Whoa wow, Wow, I just feeling
(37:01):
sassy when I wrote this. Okay, so we're gonna talk
some horses facts, which we love. That for me, as
we all probably know, horses or herbivores, meaning they eat
what we think of as like grains, grasses, salt, and
minerals and some fruits and vegetables. Their stomach is meant
to handle all of that stuff, but they do. And
(37:24):
their mouths have canines canine teeth, which you know, they're
like cats and dogs, and those are like sarper teeth
meant to rip flush. Canines are so hot in people.
Oh do you like mine? They're honestly my favorite part
of anyone's smile. If someone has like pronounced canines, I'm like, oh,
my good. You know cabults, see your canines. I think
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mine are kind of flat at this point because they're
not very sharp. They've been ripping a lot of flesh.
I just ripping a lot of flesh, and I am exhausted.
I love vampires. Okay, so horses don't really rip flush obviously,
But don't get me wrong. There are some little punks
out there who like to buy you. But they're not
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gonna they're not trying to like tear your skin and
consume you, just biting for fun. They just are like
sometimes they're just like punks and they're just like they
just like to nip at you. Anyway. So horses are
always chilling and pastures, pastures, grazing they're like chewing all
of the time. It is basically a habit. So like
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when you're sitting there and your horses and like say
you're sitting there and you're like eating a hamburger like
chicken wings or something, and the horses sitting there, like,
I mean, he might take a bite, and so that's
meat and that's weird. Okay, So horses stomachs are really
meant for like grains and plant matter and whatnot, not
really for meat. But it's like somewhere and it's like
somewhere in between, so and theory it can handle it. However,
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meat is not good for horses. They like, meat can
go bad pretty quickly, and horses can't throw up, so
if they were to get sick right then they cannot
get that out and so they would pretty quickly get
sick and if not treated, they would die. So they
can't throw up. No, can you imagine if they did?
That would be horrifying. I mean, I've seen a horse
(39:12):
turd before, and I don't like that a horse turd.
I was saying turd as a verb. It dirted. Okay,
Oh wait, I am disgusted by both of you right now. Okay,
continue Okay, well all of this has been just to
put off talking about horses actually eating meat. Um, there
(39:34):
have been instances long ago, like the early nineteen hundreds.
There was this guy and who was like traveling in
the South Pole. His name was Ernest Shackleton's m I think, yeah,
a fancy man, and he had a pony named Socks.
And so they're in the south Socks. Socks is my
grandparents dog's name. That's cute. That is cute. But yeah,
(39:55):
so Socks, like they're in the South Pole. There's there's
nothing for there's no grass, there is like no point matter,
there's only meat. So Socks shares the same diet as
Sir Ernest Shackleton's, so like that he's kind of that's
like the most popular horse out there that has been
known to eat meat. But it turns out he did. Okay,
(40:17):
so wait, that was a lot of information. So they
went to the South Pole and they didn't have any
other food that they just yeah, so they just the
horse the pony eat meat. Yeah, and the horse we
kind of became famous as like the meat eating horse,
which was just like a weird thing. Okay, again, fun
trick putting off this story about the horse of luck Now. Okay,
(40:40):
so in the eighteen hundreds there was apparently a horse
that went on a murderous rampage. Oh okay, here we go,
Ernest's horse. Horse? Is that Ernest horse? No, no, no, no,
this is a different not socks. Okay, that was just
a fun little fact about that one horse that ate
some meat. This is about a murderous horse. And so
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this one day, these two English guys come riding up
into luck Now with their like in their wagon, and
the town was completely deserted. There was like no one
in sight, and they're like, what's going on here? This
is like really really weird. And then they like see
a little bit of blood, See a little bit more
blood over here, see a little bit more over there.
They see a corpse. Here, they see a corpse. They're like, yeah,
(41:30):
everywhere's a corpse. Corpse. Yeah, And like their faces had
been like they were not looking good. They were like
trampled and just just bad. Um oh basically god skincare
basically just a blood bath. And then they come up
on these two dudes and the British guys are like, um, hey,
what's going on? And they're like the man eater is
(41:52):
loose and the man eater is what is this horse
that they referred to. They referred to him as the
man eater because he was literally like a man eating horse.
So the man eater was a based out in bay
means that they're brown with black legs and black maid
and tail stallion, meaning he was a Mican. So typically
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horses have a fight or flight instinct and usually they
choose to piece out, but not this one. So at
some point they see the horse and he has a
child in his mouth. Oh no, yeah, really bad. But
why why what's wrong with this horse? You don't know.
(42:40):
Did the British dude see the horse? Yes, they did,
they could, that's and then they saw they saw him
with the child child in his mouth, so they're like,
oh no, this is really bad. So eventually they catch him.
They kind of like corral. Also, their horses that were
pulling the wagon were like huh no, no, we're not
messing with those horse. This is this is too much.
(43:03):
But eventually they catch him and they king was like, oh,
this is some great entertainment, Like this horse is Nutso
this horse is nuts, so I mean he was, let's
be real, he was Okay, he had killed like a
bunch of people. I mean, like, oh, this horse killed
a bunch of people. What fun? Well? Yes, so well.
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Also side note, the horse had like blood dripping from
its face and like had blood all over it from
just like all of the people that had killed. Oh no.
So anyway, the king was like this horse, like, we
need to like make some money off of this horse,
and we need to like exploit them for entertainment. Right,
So they decided to do what they used to do
(43:46):
in ancient room at the Colosseum, and they pit this
This is where animal cruelty comes in. So if you
don't like that, you know, I agree. But this I'm
just telling you the facts. Okay, Yeah, none of us
like it. But if it's like an active trigger for you,
then piece out do the do the flight and don't
fight us. Just flight like most other horses. Don't be
(44:09):
like the man eater. Yeah, be like a horse. So
we're all man eaters technically yea. So I won't go
into too much detail, but here's what I'll say. They
pitted this horse up against a tiger, and oh no,
why would they do that? The tiger is gonna kill
the horse. Obviously obviously not what. The horse kicks the
(44:33):
tiger in the face, breaking his jaw, and the tiger's like,
I mean the tiger didn't die, he's fine, and he
was like he still he still likes him. Not fine,
but yeah, but he did break his jaw, and he's like,
I know, I'm not messing with that horse. So then
you get another tiger, same thing. Tiger's like, I don't
even want to mess with this horse, like, didn't even try,
(44:54):
and the horse was like, yeah, I already already took
one one down. I don't need to do another. So
what happened to the man eater? I mean they did
that for a little while, but they realized the horse
was going to win single time, and they didn't want
to be like getting rid of all their tigers. I
don't really know. They need their tigers for other things.
I suppose, so he just like lived to old age
and then passed away peacefully. That's what I would like.
(45:17):
His castle with the pigs from the previous story. It
was no. I didn't read where they like put him
down or anything. They were just like, yeah, I mean,
he's this kind of crazy ass horse that we all
deal with. Yet they put her Rambe down. Wow. Yeah,
it's rude. There's something there's a lesson there or something. Yeah,
there's some sort of lesson. Listener think about it back
(45:40):
with a lesson of these stories. Yeah, please don't. Actually, yeah,
I don't think I want to relive this conversation now. Yeah.
I feel like it's also crazy that the horse exists
in the first place, because, like when they're saying the
man eating horses loose, it's kind of like, well, it's
already stomped on a man, so it's amazing that I
was still around. They're like, yeah, it even already killed people,
(46:01):
so we just still have it. And then it rampaged
in this town the same thing. I mean seemingly like today,
I can't even talk about it. It's too hard. Ye.
So anyway, this is we're not going to til We're
not going to make you cry. We're not going to
make you cry today. No, not today, not about this
at least other things. Sure, So okay, when next question?
(46:25):
When can I take y'all horseback riding with me? Literally
as soon as possible? Okay, but like maybe when it's
less hot. I was actually so I was going to
ride this Sunday, and then I was like, it's really
hot because you have to like, well you don't have to,
but you should wear pants instead of like shorts and
boots close to shoes. Like it's just hot, you know, yeah,
because I was going to wear a body suit. What
are you talking about? No? Literally, the moment fall hits,
(46:48):
I'm there, okay, put me on, put me on coach,
you know. Yeah? Can we get like an apple and
feed it to the horse. Yes, they love apples. Yeah,
I know, I've seen it in the movies. They love
apples and carrots and all kinds of things. But yes,
thank you for another listening to this episode. Um, if
you've made it this far, Um, talk at you next week.
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I am Taylor along with Gabby. I like how you
start with the bitterness. I like, I appreciate that, and
(00:30):
I think that's a good oment for today's session. Also, hello,
I got scared right now. I thought I was just
about to get in trouble. Yes, and Nika, Yes, my
um ass has actually been critically reviewed by every barista
in Atlanta, so I know a lot about critical reviews. Great,
is it acclaimed or reviewed? I like, you didn't say claimed.
(00:56):
Oh that's like this guy about my stand up recently
at a show, he was like, your comedy is really bland,
which I was like, okay, but I usually think my
com he's too weird to understand. So what I think
I was like trying to question him about the criticism.
What we realize is that he was trying to say,
I have a monotone, so, oh, that's not about your commonness,
just your voice. Yeah, just it's not I have maybe
(01:17):
good jokes, but they're terrible to listen to through the
vehicle of my voice. Okay, great, So today we were
pretty much gonna be talking about my hell So, Gabby's
gonna tell us how Bacon fights back, and Nika is
going to tell us about death while riding a horse.
So really great, but you get fighting back. I know
(01:38):
you didn't just refer to the animal the pig as Bacon.
Yeah I did. She's leaning into it. Yeah, the episode
is all about animals, so sorry, Taylor. So today's trigger
warnings are basically, if you see any part of yourself
in me, you're gonna be triggered. So things like animals
consuming humans, blood go or heart attacks, death, I'm gonna
(02:00):
say it, animal cruelty probably, and maxia and eating disorders
and balloon yeah, and a arexia eating disorders and really
great stuff like that. Okay, great, cue the music. I
(02:27):
don't even know who should go first because it's both
both are gonna trigger me, but I but Gabby. I'm
gonna choose Gabby, so take it away. Okay, Yeah, so
I guess this is the Bacon story, um, but it's
actually about pre Bacon, which is called a pig. I
don't believe in jail, but Gabby gets jail, right, now
(02:49):
going to jail. Yeah, Okay, So this is about a
guy named Terry and he was living up in Oregon, Okay.
He had a farm and the farm was really good
for him because he had he was a Vietnam War veteran,
and so he had had some war trauma. I guess
the true warning war trauma. I already said about wars
be happening. So he had that, he had PTSD and
(03:09):
so kind of after the war, and also when he
got a little bit older, he started a farm and
rule organ and he had a variety of animals. His
brother was like, yeah, yeah, So he had like some
turkeys and some other birds, and notably he had his
I'll just call them regular pigs. He had some pigs,
and they were some big daddy pigs too. They were
(03:30):
just like Gimungo huge pigs. All of them were like
seven hundred pounds. He had some sALS and also one boar,
and his boar had a fun name. His boar was
named Teddy. So cute. Yeah, so Terry's the dude. Teddy
is the pig, the mail pig. And apparently, you know,
(03:52):
whenever like the pigs would have kids, little piglets, he
would then give the piglets to like the kids in
the area to have, which I was like, I that
part that was just like a sentence that was in
several articles. But I do wonder about, you know, just
giving the kids some piglets. I wonder if they asked
their parents first or otherwise just like brought home some pigs. Yeah,
(04:12):
I'd be mad if my kid just came home with
a pig. I'd be like, um, what do you want
me to do with this? I mean, don't get me wrong,
they're cute and everything, but like you gotta know how
to take care of them and do all the things.
You can't just like willy nilly be getting pigs. You can't.
That is a big, big thing for cadaver gause. You
can't just willy nilly be getting pigs. That's what we're saying.
Especially these pigs they were. Yeah, because usually, you know,
(04:35):
fun facts, most domesticated pigs, usually they'll be more like
the two hundred and fifty to three hundred pound range.
But again, these were seven hundred pound. Hold up, hold up,
let's let's take a moment. So this man was giving
away pigs piglets, but they were seven They would grow
to be seven hundred pounds. Willy nilly, Willy nilly. I mean,
(04:58):
I guess it just depends because I don't know if
he it was unclear whether or not. It didn't seem
that he you know, processed I he killed the pigs
or anything. So I don't okay, I don't know what
he was using the pigs for. Maybe he like fed
them a lot, maybe they were special fat pigs. But um,
that's just very big. That's very large for a which
(05:20):
is not you know, unusual for pigs. Cadavergaws, the pig wing,
this is what this episode is. But you know, pigs
can get that big, you know, but these in general,
they are not that big. But if this is America, okay,
so we have big pigs here, and I don't just
mean Republicans, Okay, um, okay, good job. Okay. So one
(05:43):
day I was about to call him Teddy, Terry, Terry
the Man, Teddy the pig. Okay. So one time, Terry
the Man, he was you know, messing around, you know,
doing his farm duties, et cetera, and one of the
pigs bit him. Okay, which is so rude of that pig.
But also Terry apparently had accidentally stepped on a piglet,
(06:05):
so it might have been one of the lady pigs,
one of the sALS uh. It might have been like
a protective thing, because apparently pig mamas can be pretty
protective of their little babies, except for when they're having them.
It's really important to get the piglets out of the
way because often lots of piglets die because the mama
pigs crush them as they're coming out because they're so big.
So if you have a pig having a baby, a
(06:27):
little hot tip from the cadaver guse no, you would
probably know more about that if you had a pig
having piglets pigs, you know, don't listen to this. Don't
listen to this episode. You'll be like these stupid girls.
You know, when I think of pigs, I think of
like teacup piglets, like as like domesticated pigs. I forget that,
you know, we be eating them. Yeah, maybe scream and stuff. Yeah,
(06:50):
oh yeah. I watched Spirited Away for the first time
yesterday and um, there's a lot of pigs in the movie.
I won't ruin it for anyone, but the pigs are
squealing and they're all together, they're bunched up, and I
my whole heart, I can't take that. I can't see
a vegan documentary like, I cannot do it. I will
get traumatized. Anyway. Pigs be big and they'd be squealing
(07:13):
go ahead. Yeah, so one of the pigs, I'd bet him,
And then Terry's brother came over and was like, yeah,
what's up, what's going on. He's like, well, one of
my pigs bet me. And he's like, oh, shooters, what
are you gonna do? And Terry was like, oh, I
guess I'm probably gonna have to, like, you know, put
him down, kill him or something. But then his brother
came back I think a few weeks later, and Terry
had decided against it actually because I guess he had
(07:35):
a love for his thicky daddy piggies, so he didn't
kill that pig. That pig was around. But yeah, I
mean pigs sometimes they can be aggressive, like you know,
as I was saying, sometimes it's usually more wild pigs
that will be more aggressive. Obviously, that makes sense, that
is how logic works. And so in general, you know,
(07:56):
domesticated pigs, there isn't really like really any accounts of
them hurting people necessarily, but like with wild pigs, like
wild hogs, Farrell hogs. We all know about the Farrell hogs.
They sometimes get people into trouble. And there was in
twenty nineteen there's this lady in Texas because Texas is
like overrun by Farrell pigs. There's just like a million
(08:19):
pigs just running around Texas. And this lady one time
she was walking from her car into her house and
she like before she got to like the front door
of her house, which was like pretty close spy, she
got attacked by a herd of wild pigs and she
died from the pig attacked. Pigs like wild boar are
(08:39):
very scary and very dangerous. Yeah. Also, the thing is
like these pigs, some of them are super pigs because
they're like super smart pigs. Horrified. I love it. I
is the one the bit aren't Terry Terry? Terry? Was
that a super pig? Did she come back and haunt him?
(09:01):
He was a dome that was a domesticated pig. And
we'll get back to Terry because you know this is
cadaver gals. I was doing some foreshadowing, but a little
more detail tho scares me though, you know, you see
pictures of those influencers and like, I don't even know
Malodi's bora Bora. I don't know. Would they take pictures
with the pigs in the ocean, like the wild pigs
(09:22):
in the ocean. I have no interest whatsoever in being
near those pigs, none at all. But let's be real,
those are relatives. I mean, they're not maybe they're not domesticated,
but they're around people all of the time. Oh yeah,
like they know. Remember we've talked about this with the
wolves the other week. Yes, yes, we did. Wolf girl Taylor, Taylor,
(09:44):
you got a furry are you? No? I just I
would be not I would not be judgment to be honest,
I've questioned myself, you know. So I just want to
put it out there. It's okay, No, Taylor loves the pigs,
Niko wants to be the pigs. I am the pig.
So here we go. Gobby's final form. Okay, go ahead,
(10:05):
final form. But actually I am since the cadavergals, I
am fearmongering and they're actually you know, they're not that.
I mean, they do be attacking people out in the wild.
The wild pigs do. But in terms of official reported
deaths by wild pigs in the United States since eighteen
twenty five, there have only been five, so pretty low risk.
(10:28):
That's a lot lower than I would than I would think,
But there might be a lot of unreported pig deaths,
so we don't know. Continuous fear mongering. He's like, these
are the facts, but who knows. Do we have trust
those facts? But facts can be different in the future.
We're gonna go in our cadaver gals time machine just
(10:50):
to calculate this with Tennessee Williams and Nicholas Cage to
calculate pig deaths. Okay, let's go back to Terry. Why
don't we So you know, he's doing his farm thing,
just whatever, and this is in like twenty twenty twelve,
and yes he was. He's at the age of sixty
nine at this point. I'm not at sixty nine. I
(11:11):
can't do anything about that, Okay, I totally miss that
was sixty nine. Yeah, like the sex position. Yeah, I
didn't want to bring it up, but that was literally
his age, okay, okay, okay, But anyway, so it's the
end of September in twenty twelve and another one of
(11:31):
his family members comes by his house and they can't
find him. He's missing. Where where's Terry? Where is he?
And they walk around and then eventually they get to
the enclosure where the pigs are kept. And first they
spotted his dentures, and then they spotted some parts of
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his body. No, his dentures. Yeah, he was sixty nine.
He had fake teeth. Teeth, No, I know what, I
know what dentures are. I just the thought of a
pig raring dentures came into my and I'm sorry, Okay,
the pig was no, he didn't like the dentures. That
this is now that line of disrespect on our show.
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But yeah, so um and so they were like, oh shit,
I'm sure they said a lot of things, but anyway,
so the pigs had eaten him, okay. And the thing though,
is they were never able to establish why the pigs
ate him because so much of his body was consumed. Obviously,
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the pathologist and that and et cetera couldn't ascertain what
happened because there was not enough body left for them
to determine what happened. And he was like, you know,
the pathologist was like well, theoretically, what could have happened is,
you know, he might have had a heart attack or
you know, some sort of other more you know, naturally
occurring sudden thing happened. I forgot all words just now. Um,
(13:03):
you might have had a heart attack or something, and
he might have fallen to the ground. And because pigs
are omnivores, you know, they do eat vegetables and they
also eat meat, they could have been just eaten him
out of hunger, because that that's an option. They're gonna
do it, you know, because they eat a variety if
they're just like us, pigs are just like us. But
the pathologists could not rule out they could not rule
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out whether or not the pigs deliberately attacked him, knocked
him over, killed him, and ate him. They could not
rule that out because that is something that could have happened.
So that Are there any other instances in history where
pigs have like gotten together and like revolted against their master? Yeah?
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And that what is that nonfiction book? Uh? The famous
one that is a fiction book? Oh? What the Animal House.
Well here's the thing, though, this hasn't I looked around
and there really aren't that many, you know, domesticated pig deaths.
You know, there was the five feral pig deaths. But
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what actually is very dangerous is cattle. Okay, cattle are
actually the bad boys of the farming industry because they
account for about twenty two deaths a year. Okay, so
twenty two people die, usually from blunt force trauma of
the cattle attacking them. And there's this one study that
came out in two thousand and nine that said this
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really spooky thing that it said that seventy five percent
of these cattle deaths were deliberate on the sake of
the cattle. So yeah, I mean they talked with the cattle.
Taylor loves the probably problematic, but what does it mean
to be deliberate as an animal? You know? But they
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I think they mean it as like the cattle. You know,
the person was doing something whatever, but then the cattle
attacked them, as opposed to like, you know, they ran
into the cattle. I don't know. So I have a
lot of opinions and thoughts and stories on this, I
bet you do, but I will try and limit it.
Towser huge and they're not. I don't feel like I
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could be attacked for this but I don't feel like
they're that smart. So you don't like they're not as
smart as pigs for sure. Yes, but I can also
tell you I had this horse and loved her, but
she hated men. And so if she was like turned
out in the pasture and there was a man in
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the ring with her in the pasture with her, she
would literally chase him down and like go after him.
So I don't know, like that that could have been
some sort of trauma that she had that I don't know. Also,
mayors are a little bit moody, ladies. Mayors are so moody.
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But anyway, I digress, it could be some sort of
who knows. I mean, it could have been like just
a behavioral change, because some of the examples of the
cattle was like, oh there was like there was a
cow that was always known as being aggressive a bowl specifically,
and that had attack someone while they were just like
milking another cow and then that cow just like rammed them.
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Well that was exactly My next question is it was
it a dairy cow versus a beef cow, because there
are differences obviously, Well, this one was a man cow,
so he probably wasn't milk being milked. Well, no, but
you have to have them to breed them. Oh that
there's like completely separate breaths. We could go. I feel
(16:40):
like I'm in an interrogation. Now, I'm like, I don't know. No,
that's fine, Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna staller in her
feminist horse to explain myself and I will take us
completely full circle back to the pigs. So I went
to college to be and I was going to be
a vet. That's what I wanted to be when I
grew up. It turns out I didn't like all of
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the labs. They made me cry because I was having
to dissect all kinds of things and they made me
Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh. Have you seen the
movie Raw? No, Okay, you need to watch it, Taylor,
you need to watch it. No, anyway, keep going, but
everyone could ever if you like gruesome and but really
good filmmaking, you should watch Raw. Okay, go ahead. So
(17:23):
so anyway, full circle one. Do you want to hear
a fun pig fact? Yes? Sure, Um. They produce the
most sperm relative to their body type, or relative to
like the body size. So that body type, it's an
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hour glass about no, no, um, it's a hundred times
that of a human. I not think I was gonna
sit down today in the afternoon with my glass of
water and listen to you guys talk about pig sperm
like that was not really in my ends today. How
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could it not be in your plan? It is? That's
fair anyway, So I'm back to the pigs. Okay, Gabby,
congratulations Taylor. I'm sorry that you never got to learn
about fun animals. But anyway, so in the fearmongering, yeah,
it's the cattle who seemed to, you know, be the
more quote unquote dangerous farm animal. So watch out, you know,
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if you're on near cow. Actually don't want don't even
watch out. It's not even a real risk. Okay, guys,
everything's fine. But there was like in this study they
did mention. I couldn't find any more details on this,
but there have been times where like different farm animals
have banded together to attack a person. Okay, isn't that fun?
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Like a little pig and cow and goat army. Oh
my gosh, I grew up watching Have you guys seen
the movie Chicken Run? Yeah, okay, that's how I picture
any farm animal Like banding together and they did it queens.
Oh was that the claymation one? Yeah? Oh it's so scary.
It is scary for really traumatize me as a child. Um. Yeah,
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I couldn't eat chicken pie for like the longest time
after I watched that. I still ate it later though,
but um, I'm horrified. Gabby, Um, watch out, but don't
actually watch out. Everything is fine. What happened to our friend? Sorry?
I mean, I know he died, but like they never
feared anything out. Where did his pigs go? Oh? Yeah,
(19:34):
when they do with their pigs, you know, Oh, for
your sake, Taylor. They now live in the house and
are very happy, and you know, they're strictly on a
salad diet. Because they feel bad about what they did.
They went to go live on a farm somewhere. They
went to go. They went to this special farm after that.
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I don't know what happened to the pigs afterwards, because
I am bad at journalism. Oh, I didn't want I
didn't want to call up anybody be like, hey, I
saw the story from like nine years ago. Question quick
cue what happened? Oh no, all right, well Gabby, thank
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you for that. I apologize for my diverting the story
to pigs Burn Taylor. We knew it was gonna happen.
We knew this episode you're going to have some fun facts.
Oh yeah, I've got more coming at you after break. Okay,
welcome back. I'm sorry if this makes you cry. But
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is your pet gonna eat you? Probably? Um ooh I
love this question. Yea, So we're gonna specifically talk about
the Jimmy's, the Josie's, the kim Cheese, and the Gusses
of the world. Okay, cats and dunks, yes, aka cats
and dogs. Oh my god, what if all of our
pets got together and started a little arm they had
(21:05):
matching outfits. They can they can just take me. I
don't care. There's just something about like cats and dogs
holding hands and plotting evil that makes me just I
just want to give them the world. You know, we
should make an album cover of all of our pets,
just their little paws holding hands. That's what really got me,
you know the pause. Okay, well this is going to
(21:28):
take a very different turn. But basically, you know you've
heard stories about like when people have died and then
their cats or dogs or other pets, birds, hamsters eat
their owners. So but hamsters also eat their young sometimes,
so yeah, so that's not a surprise. Never trust a
hamster exactly. Okay, So basically the question is are dogs
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or cats more likely to eat you? While there's a
question right while the answer is your dog, gus, you're
so guilty. Well it's just funny because everyone talks about
cats being so devious and dogs being so loyal. But look,
look now the dog loyally eats your body, here's what happens.
It's a real friend. Yeah, so here's what potentially happens.
(22:16):
We don't know this for sure because we're we are
not dogs and we are not cats in fact, but
basically cats are kind of just like lazy and like
me whatever, whereas dogs will be like, you know, if
they see something happen to their humans, say he has
a heart attack or what have you, the dog comes
over and they'll typically like lick at you or nudge
(22:37):
you with their nose or something like that. But if
they're not getting the reaction out of you, they get
a little bit more frantic and upset, and then they
start kind of like nibbling on you, and then it's
kind of keeps going from there. The most common areas
and this happens about twenty four percent of dogs will
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beget will begin consuming their owners within twenty four hours.
That's upsetting. I know you're upsetting people right now. I
know no people are upset. But here's the face because exactly, okay,
go ahead, exactly. So the thing is is they get
frantic and like dogs that have like anxiety and like
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separation anxiety are thought to be worse about this. So
Gus would definitely consume me quickly, I guess. But he's
so little, he has so little spawl and cute and sweet.
You'd only eat like half your face, I think, yeah,
but a lot of it. That's in other things. It
depends on how much, like how big the dog is,
Like a little chihuahua, they would eat everything. Who are
(23:39):
you kidding? That's true, like little or dogs aren't capable
of eating quite as much because they're smaller. But there
was actually an instance where this dog, despite even having
food readily available in his bowl, he still consumed his
owner or like begin so and they typically, like I said,
go for your face or like your hands, feet, like
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extremity is they don't like straight up go for your
torso so they're just like that kind of like further
indicates that they're perhaps just like trying to wake you
up and like get you, get you moving and grooven,
but sadly so how traumatic for the dog. This is
an our cat. The cat typically doesn't there. They don't
really even care that much. They're just like men whatever,
(24:22):
they don't notice. And my other in this I didn't
find anywhere. But I am just also guessing that cats
are a little bit more self sufficient than dogs. Like
cats can light their escape artists, they can get out.
They could find a way to get out or get
a mice or squirrels or whatever, and so they could
still I feel like, be okay, but little little Gussie
(24:42):
still needs me, you know, even after death. Yeah, I mean,
I feel like you've done something wrong if you die
and your dog doesn't eat you. I honestly, honestly, you
didn't foster our codependent relationship with your dog, loser, So insummation,
(25:03):
dogs will very like we eat you. Doesn't matter how
close you are, how sweet they are, how well trained
they are. Um, it's really just because they love you. Um,
there we go, all right. Nika changed the subject to
a slightly different talk. Okay, Okay, well I think I'm
gonna make this better because we're going to the Roaring twenties.
(25:27):
Love that fun, the current twenties, the Crying twenties. Yeah
that this is not this is the crying twenties. We're
going to the Roaring twenties. Okay, the nineteen twenties. This
story is horse adjacent, horse themed, so obviously shout out
to Taylor like a horse girl, Taylor Titty Church. Yes
(25:47):
that is her equestrian name. Okay, I did. I did
write this in my outline. Do I sound natural? Okay?
Yea off the cough. That was really good, thank you.
I'm so off the half. Okay. So we're going to
meet this guy. Exciting um. His name's Frank Hayes. Okay.
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He was a twenty two year old Irish American, you know,
good immigrant and blood, all of that good stuff. Hard worker.
He was making his way in New York. You know.
He was working as a stableman, which is basically someone
who tends to horses, and in this case he was
like stable. He was no quite not actually he was
(26:31):
probably struggling a little bit. And he also trained them sometimes,
and he was very good at his job. But he
was ambitious, as all Irish Americans in the twenties in
New York are am I right, beta boom but a boom? Wait?
Is that a stereotype about Irish pr is it about
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how they're drunk? Wait? I don't get you just saying that. Oh.
I was saying, they're ambitious, they want to work hard.
We're immigrants, you know they Oh yeah, potatoes? Oh my god. Anyway,
you know, I'm so sorry. Sorry, Okay, I hate one.
White people are like I've been discriminated against. I am Irish.
I'm like, shut the fuck up. Can where's my gold? Oh?
(27:20):
That was offensive? No, why do you ask me to
do a consense if you know I'm going to do
a bad job because we want you to alienate more
of our listeners. Oh my god. Okay. Anyway, So he
was working real hard as you know. Oh, and he
had his ambitions of becoming a jockey. That's what he
wanted to do. So finally, on June fourth, nineteen twenty three,
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in New York's Belmont Park, he got his chance. This woman,
miss am Freeling, wanted her horse named sweet Kiss. Okay,
I have feelings about horse names. It was only Sweet Kiss.
Aren't there names supposed to be like the whole, like
at least a minute long to say each of them.
(28:03):
I feel I don't know. I feel like any horse
that I've met has always been named something like a unicorn.
P sweet Kids' kids aren't even freaking yeah, Taylor's feminist horse,
whispers of Moonlight. Um, who the fuck? I don't even
know how you would call that? Hey, hey, whispers of
(28:23):
They had a stable name and a show name. What
was Moonlight's stable name? Um, whispers or Princess? Okay, anyway,
my name is Whispers of Moonlight. But I go by Princess.
Oh that is fascinating and beautiful. Um, I cannot relate
(28:44):
lovingly Taylor. But okay, Um, so asked, and I told
you know, and then thank you for telling, Thank you
for telling. So she was looking for a jockey, um,
and she was obviously having trouble finding a first rate
jockey at such short notice procrastinators. Am I right? Okay? So? Um.
She knew Frank because he had trained Sweet Kiss in races,
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and she was like, hey, I know you have ambitions
of being a jockey. Why don't you try to you know,
this specific race with Sweet Kiss. He jumped at the
opportunity and then she was like, wait, you're one hundred
and forty two pounds. You're not going to make the cut.
Never mind. He was like, no, no, no no, no, I'll
lose the weight. I'll qualify, it'll be great. She was like, okay,
I guess, so, how skinny do you have to be
(29:28):
to be a jockey? Max is one thirty pounds. So,
and it was on short notice, but obviously this was
a big deal and no one really believed in him.
They were like that, boy, hey, he's like young in
it don't matter, you know what I mean. Like the
way people won't talk in New York. Um, so sorry,
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nineteen twenties in New York accent I cannot do. I
can't do any accent actually okay. So it was just
as intends to disagree. Oh oh, it's understandable. So no
one believed in him, you know, classism, odds were against him.
He had never won a race, he had never raced
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a race before. But he quickly got his ship together.
He trained harder than ever before. Okay, rocky theme song,
and then he had to go, obviously on a very
strict diet to meet the requirements needed to race. Now,
I didn't know this, Um, it kind of actually shocked me.
But in the nineteen twenties and thirties, most jockeys, as
I recently said, could not be over one thirty pounds,
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and the ideal weight, it seems, was like one hundred
and ten pounds. That is very small. I have not been,
you know, around one hundred pounds since I was like twelve.
Just my thighs I think are one hundred pounds, and
they were very strict about it, like if you were
even a little bit over, you could not race, period.
And I read recently that the Kentucky Derby requires jockeys
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to be less than one hundred and twenty six pounds
and there's a height requirement to it there. I didn't
read that there was a hype requirement, but that most
jockeys are short because even though there's not a hype requirement,
you have to be very very small, lean thin. I
mean literally, that's like that's like the average size of
I don't know, like a preteen like I just that's
(31:12):
just bananas to meum, and like a tiny ballerina. I
mean literally, it's like the same kind of you know restrictions. Okay, yes,
Gus is Gus a jockey, He's never seen a horse continue.
Oh what he would lose? His whispers of moonlight is
(31:35):
that you let's band against Taylor. Um okay, So that
has obviously caused a lot of body image issues and
eating disorders and jockeys. Apparently. I read that there was
these there were these things called heaving bowls, which were
porcelain bowls that would be in the jockeys rooms. Um,
so they could throw up before a race, or after
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they ate, or before stepping on this scale. And then
these were taken away only ten years ago at the
track where like the Kentucky Derby happens, which is extremely recent,
and just took me by surprise, Like I was like, oh,
this is really yeah. Were you like good, like happy
about them taking that away or were you like, no,
(32:19):
that's not you know, that's not stopping anyone. Unfortunately, I
know it's Yeah. I read an interview they were like
toilet bows bowls still exists bowls. Where the fuck did
that come from? Yes? Well, anyway, so Frank was obviously
training hard and losing weight and um, oh my gosh.
I also read that some jockeys stick to a diet
of less than six hundred calories per day, which is
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kind of what he was doing as well. Again, that
is very unhealthy and unsafe. That is not the safe
way of losing weight. So he was doing all of
these things to prepare for his debut, and he made
it happen. He got to one hundred and thirty pounds,
just barely, but got there. And when he entered the
jockeys room, all these jockeys were like surprised at how
excited he was, and we're surprised that he had even
(33:03):
made the cut. And as he waited at the starting post,
he was heard saying to his fellow jockeys, I'm not
gonna do an accepts gonna say it. Today's a good
day to make history. So oh my gosh, like he's,
you know, doing his dream. And it seems like he
was a really good trainer. Ano there was a crowd favorite.
His name was Gimmy again like no long horse name.
I don't know. Maybe I had to get long because
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all of them got taken. Okay, well that makes more sense.
Does every horse name have to be totally unique? I
mean they're registered. Yeah, Okay, I don't know that. I
mean not every horse name, you know what I mean,
like if they're going to be racing or whatever, if
they're like or competing, then yeah, okay that makes sense. Wow,
that's amazing. Well, this horse's name was Gimmey and he
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had been killing it lately. Everyone was betting on this horse.
He was like the prize horse, right. But when the
shot went off and the horses started racing, Sweet Kiss
was in the lead. Okay, sweet Kiss, I know him now.
It was a two mile course with twelve jumps, and
Haze and Sweet Kiss were doing the damn thing. It
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was impressive and professional and graceful. People rose to their
feet as he beat Gimme and crossed the finish line first. Yeah, yeah,
he won. It's amazing now it had been I know, yes,
now he had been looking like m Hayes was whispering
into Sweet Kiss his ear as he raced because he
was like slumped over on the horse, and everyone was like,
(34:29):
oh my gosh, the bond between horse and man like
so beautiful. And then um the horse kept racing a
little bit and then stopped about one hundred yards after
crossing the finish line. And as Misfrailing ran down to
congratulate Frank, he fell off the horse face first. No oh.
A physician ran up to him, took his pulse and
(34:50):
declared him dead. Oh my goodness, well we are on
good DA regals. So it seems like he had a
heart attack mid race and managed to stay in the saddle.
And when that is so impressive, it's insane. It's hard
enough to stay in the saddle when you're trying to
(35:11):
stay in the saddle. Yeah, but when your body gives up,
you know, his body said, let's give him this one
last thing. So he's the only person to ever win
a sporting event wild dead, yeah, I mean yeah. And
then Sweet Kiss got a really bad reputation because jockey's
it seems like jockey's tend to be a little superstitious.
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So she was actually given the name sweet Kiss of Death.
And she never wrote again. And then Hayes was buried
three days later with the writing silks that he wore
in his first and only race. I mean, that is
so sad, But at the same time, like early retirement,
that's okay for her. Oh you're talking at the horse, yeah,
(35:54):
But like also dying as wine yeah, it seems like
they think it was probably a heart attack that kind
of came on from. At first, they were like, oh,
it's the excitement of the race, but then they realized
he was like starving himself and super dehydrated and like
overworked to get to the weight that he needed to
to race, and that's what caused his death. That's so sad,
(36:16):
but I mean, yeah, yeah, you have to take care
of yourself. People. How are you going to follow your
dreams if you're dead? You know exactly? Anyway, Yes, shall
we take a break and come back so I can
talk more about horses? Yeah, okay, oh of course, all right,
welcome back. Um Nika just told us about this story
(36:40):
about the jockey who sadly died while riding a horse.
But at least he was doing what he loved and
he was still a winner winner chicken dinner. Speaking of
chicken dinner, horse dinner. Whoa wow, Wow, I just feeling
(37:01):
sassy when I wrote this. Okay, so we're gonna talk
some horses facts, which we love. That for me, as
we all probably know, horses or herbivores, meaning they eat
what we think of as like grains, grasses, salt, and
minerals and some fruits and vegetables. Their stomach is meant
to handle all of that stuff, but they do. And
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their mouths have canines canine teeth, which you know, they're
like cats and dogs, and those are like sarper teeth
meant to rip flush. Canines are so hot in people.
Oh do you like mine? They're honestly my favorite part
of anyone's smile. If someone has like pronounced canines, I'm like, oh,
my good. You know cabults, see your canines. I think
(37:46):
mine are kind of flat at this point because they're
not very sharp. They've been ripping a lot of flesh.
I just ripping a lot of flesh, and I am exhausted.
I love vampires. Okay, so horses don't really rip flush obviously,
But don't get me wrong. There are some little punks
out there who like to buy you. But they're not
(38:07):
gonna they're not trying to like tear your skin and
consume you, just biting for fun. They just are like
sometimes they're just like punks and they're just like they
just like to nip at you. Anyway. So horses are
always chilling and pastures, pastures, grazing they're like chewing all
of the time. It is basically a habit. So like
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when you're sitting there and your horses and like say
you're sitting there and you're like eating a hamburger like
chicken wings or something, and the horses sitting there, like,
I mean, he might take a bite, and so that's
meat and that's weird. Okay, So horses stomachs are really
meant for like grains and plant matter and whatnot, not
really for meat. But it's like somewhere and it's like
somewhere in between, so and theory it can handle it. However,
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meat is not good for horses. They like, meat can
go bad pretty quickly, and horses can't throw up, so
if they were to get sick right then they cannot
get that out and so they would pretty quickly get
sick and if not treated, they would die. So they
can't throw up. No, can you imagine if they did?
That would be horrifying. I mean, I've seen a horse
(39:12):
turd before, and I don't like that a horse turd.
I was saying turd as a verb. It dirted. Okay,
Oh wait, I am disgusted by both of you right now. Okay,
continue Okay, well all of this has been just to
put off talking about horses actually eating meat. Um, there
(39:34):
have been instances long ago, like the early nineteen hundreds.
There was this guy and who was like traveling in
the South Pole. His name was Ernest Shackleton's m I think, yeah,
a fancy man, and he had a pony named Socks.
And so they're in the south Socks. Socks is my
grandparents dog's name. That's cute. That is cute. But yeah,
(39:55):
so Socks, like they're in the South Pole. There's there's
nothing for there's no grass, there is like no point matter,
there's only meat. So Socks shares the same diet as
Sir Ernest Shackleton's, so like that he's kind of that's
like the most popular horse out there that has been
known to eat meat. But it turns out he did. Okay,
(40:17):
so wait, that was a lot of information. So they
went to the South Pole and they didn't have any
other food that they just yeah, so they just the
horse the pony eat meat. Yeah, and the horse we
kind of became famous as like the meat eating horse,
which was just like a weird thing. Okay, again, fun
trick putting off this story about the horse of luck Now. Okay,
(40:40):
so in the eighteen hundreds there was apparently a horse
that went on a murderous rampage. Oh okay, here we go,
Ernest's horse. Horse? Is that Ernest horse? No, no, no, no,
this is a different not socks. Okay, that was just
a fun little fact about that one horse that ate
some meat. This is about a murderous horse. And so
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this one day, these two English guys come riding up
into luck Now with their like in their wagon, and
the town was completely deserted. There was like no one
in sight, and they're like, what's going on here? This
is like really really weird. And then they like see
a little bit of blood, See a little bit more
blood over here, see a little bit more over there.
They see a corpse. Here, they see a corpse. They're like, yeah,
(41:30):
everywhere's a corpse. Corpse. Yeah, And like their faces had
been like they were not looking good. They were like
trampled and just just bad. Um oh basically god skincare
basically just a blood bath. And then they come up
on these two dudes and the British guys are like, um, hey,
what's going on? And they're like the man eater is
(41:52):
loose and the man eater is what is this horse
that they referred to. They referred to him as the
man eater because he was literally like a man eating horse.
So the man eater was a based out in bay
means that they're brown with black legs and black maid
and tail stallion, meaning he was a Mican. So typically
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horses have a fight or flight instinct and usually they
choose to piece out, but not this one. So at
some point they see the horse and he has a
child in his mouth. Oh no, yeah, really bad. But
why why what's wrong with this horse? You don't know.
(42:40):
Did the British dude see the horse? Yes, they did,
they could, that's and then they saw they saw him
with the child child in his mouth, so they're like,
oh no, this is really bad. So eventually they catch him.
They kind of like corral. Also, their horses that were
pulling the wagon were like huh no, no, we're not
messing with those horse. This is this is too much.
(43:03):
But eventually they catch him and they king was like, oh,
this is some great entertainment, Like this horse is Nutso
this horse is nuts, so I mean he was, let's
be real, he was Okay, he had killed like a
bunch of people. I mean, like, oh, this horse killed
a bunch of people. What fun? Well? Yes, so well.
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Also side note, the horse had like blood dripping from
its face and like had blood all over it from
just like all of the people that had killed. Oh no.
So anyway, the king was like this horse, like, we
need to like make some money off of this horse,
and we need to like exploit them for entertainment. Right,
So they decided to do what they used to do
(43:46):
in ancient room at the Colosseum, and they pit this
This is where animal cruelty comes in. So if you
don't like that, you know, I agree. But this I'm
just telling you the facts. Okay, Yeah, none of us
like it. But if it's like an active trigger for you,
then piece out do the do the flight and don't
fight us. Just flight like most other horses. Don't be
(44:09):
like the man eater. Yeah, be like a horse. So
we're all man eaters technically yea. So I won't go
into too much detail, but here's what I'll say. They
pitted this horse up against a tiger, and oh no,
why would they do that? The tiger is gonna kill
the horse. Obviously obviously not what. The horse kicks the
(44:33):
tiger in the face, breaking his jaw, and the tiger's like,
I mean the tiger didn't die, he's fine, and he
was like he still he still likes him. Not fine,
but yeah, but he did break his jaw, and he's like,
I know, I'm not messing with that horse. So then
you get another tiger, same thing. Tiger's like, I don't
even want to mess with this horse, like, didn't even try,
(44:54):
and the horse was like, yeah, I already already took
one one down. I don't need to do another. So
what happened to the man eater? I mean they did
that for a little while, but they realized the horse
was going to win single time, and they didn't want
to be like getting rid of all their tigers. I
don't really know. They need their tigers for other things.
I suppose, so he just like lived to old age
and then passed away peacefully. That's what I would like.
(45:17):
His castle with the pigs from the previous story. It
was no. I didn't read where they like put him
down or anything. They were just like, yeah, I mean,
he's this kind of crazy ass horse that we all
deal with. Yet they put her Rambe down. Wow. Yeah,
it's rude. There's something there's a lesson there or something. Yeah,
there's some sort of lesson. Listener think about it back
(45:40):
with a lesson of these stories. Yeah, please don't. Actually, yeah,
I don't think I want to relive this conversation now. Yeah.
I feel like it's also crazy that the horse exists
in the first place, because, like when they're saying the
man eating horses loose, it's kind of like, well, it's
already stomped on a man, so it's amazing that I
was still around. They're like, yeah, it even already killed people,
(46:01):
so we just still have it. And then it rampaged
in this town the same thing. I mean seemingly like today,
I can't even talk about it. It's too hard. Ye.
So anyway, this is we're not going to til We're
not going to make you cry. We're not going to
make you cry today. No, not today, not about this
at least other things. Sure, So okay, when next question?
(46:25):
When can I take y'all horseback riding with me? Literally
as soon as possible? Okay, but like maybe when it's
less hot. I was actually so I was going to
ride this Sunday, and then I was like, it's really
hot because you have to like, well you don't have to,
but you should wear pants instead of like shorts and
boots close to shoes. Like it's just hot, you know, yeah,
because I was going to wear a body suit. What
are you talking about? No? Literally, the moment fall hits,
(46:48):
I'm there, okay, put me on, put me on coach,
you know. Yeah? Can we get like an apple and
feed it to the horse. Yes, they love apples. Yeah,
I know, I've seen it in the movies. They love
apples and carrots and all kinds of things. But yes,
thank you for another listening to this episode. Um, if
you've made it this far, Um, talk at you next week.
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