September 1, 2021 • 43 mins
The Gals discuss a terrible death in a pool, the death of France's celebrated playwright, and the horrors of theater kids.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
School of Humans. Hello, welcome to cadaver Gals, the podcast
where we talk about all of the ways that people
have died throughout history in order to cope with our
own mortality. I'm your favorite host Taylor, along with Mika.
What those are my nails? Know what that's like? My
(00:29):
fighting stance? And Gabby Wait, hey, okay, so who's the
second favorite? Like? How? What? What's the order? Oh? I
don't know, I just know that I've got to be
the first probably literally why either? What is your one
reason I'm cudding? I'm I'm definitely everyone's lost favorite and
I'm fine. Way wait if we were the powder Puff Girls, though,
(00:52):
I feel like you would be wait what's everyone's name?
I forgot because I feel like you would be better Blossom.
I think Taylor would be Blossom. I think the Bosom,
the red one. Yeah, who's like the La and then
your bubbles? Yeah, and then I'm Buttercup. Yeah. I feel
like we actually embody those pretty well. So okaye, the
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powder Puff Girls. Yeah, so even if you're not the
favorite tailor, you are the leader. Okay, great? Yeah, great,
that was great. This is a great way to start it. So, um,
today we're going to hear about how a woman made
her man overdre some water aerobics, and the last performance
of Moulie. Trigger warnings for this episode are include, but
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are not limited to, drowning, electric shock, heart conditions, domestic abuse,
elderly abuse, crack, cocaine, blood, blood, and because of the
theater kids, Ah, they're scary. All yea, all, that's fantastic.
All right. Que alligator musical? Okay, welcome back. Love that music?
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All right, Nika, do you want to take us away
with your dark too? Yes? Absolutely, And first I just
want to clarify. We have had comments asking why do
y'all call it alligator music? And the reason is because
the first time that we listened to it, I had
a vision and the vision was of like a alligator
in a swamp. He's retired, he's drinking a beer, and
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that's the kind of music he listens to. It kind
of just stuck with everyone, I think, question Mark, Well, yeah, Also,
Cadavergals is the your premiere news source for gator related content.
That is true, that's what it is. So sadly we're
not talking about gators today, but you know so um
so that's why we do it. So what you think, Oh,
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that's actually true. I'm not fully prepared. I'm gonna throw
it in somewhere. I'm gonna think. I'm gonna think. Okay,
everything can go back to gators. We can tie everything
back to the gate. I can make it happen. I
know you can. That's because your blossom. Yep. Okay. So
we are going to June's second two thousand and eight
Interesting Times to a very interesting couple in Middlefield, Ohio.
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Amish country. You know what it is? So okay, okay,
Amish country. I'm so sorry to the Amish who listened
to us. So um, that is not laughable. It's illegal
for Amish people to listen to us. By illegal, I
mean their own belief system, but also maybe their taste
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in media. You never know. I hope that there's one
Amish listener you know out there. There's not. They're just
holding it down. You don't know. Yeah, they're not. They're
not allowed to have electricity. Okay, what are they doing
it secretly? Are they just overhear us as a car
that's driving by, and they get so seduced by the
sound of the podcast that they're like, we got to
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follow that in our buggy a buggy nah its pictured
like the Flyntstone's buggy. Okay, So local police receive a
call and he'll know it's always badmen. Local police receive
a call about an unresponsive man in an apartment This
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is so sad I got a tot of down in
an apartment complex pool. And they arrive at the scene
to find Chris Mason, a forty one year old transgender woman,
James Mason, her seventy three year old husband, and Chris's mom,
who is also in her seventies and in a wheelchair.
Do we have all the main players here? Do we
understand what's going on? Three people? Wait, who's the one
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in the pool? The one in the pool is Chris's husband, James, James,
Chris and Chris's mom. Yeah, I just I couldn't find
her name, or maybe I did, but I didn't write
a zone. Okay. Anyway, So James had collapsed right outside
of the pool and had a heart attack, and the
authorities rushed into the hospital, but by then it was
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to lay and they had to put him on life support. Bad.
He had coordinary artery disease, which obviously made s journeous
activity pretty dangerous. So far, all of this tracks very normal.
You know, you're in your seventies kind of stuff. Okay.
He spent that night on life support, and then his wife, Chris,
decided to cut off his life support the next day. Okay,
(05:27):
so I thought you were about to say, like cut
off his legs or something, but um no. Anyway, so
everything is relatively normal to this point. But then authorities
they weren't sure what happened at first, and Chris blamed
it on over exercise, as it seemed like happened. However,
there was a camera in the pool that caught everything
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on tape, and when they reviewed it, the results were
really really disturbing. So basically, yeah, that's why it's on
the show. Basically, the footage shows Chris and James in
the pool of the apartment complex and Chris his mom
is nearby in her wheelchair sitting okay, and Chris, who
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is two times the size of James and obviously much younger.
It seems like in the in the video she is
forcing him to exercise. And I saw one still of
the video where it looks like he was trying to
sit by the edge of the pool and she dragged
him in by his ankles. This man is seventy three. Yeah.
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She also tossed him and dunked him into the water
multiple times, like head underwater, like holding him under basically
and wow. Yes, and he has seen clinging to the
side of the pool, but um, she drags him into
the middle to swim. The authorities also saw that he
tried to get out of the pool forty three times,
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but blocks his way every single time. Damn. That is
Chris is like not a good personal chainer, you know, no, no,
there is so much about this story that is disturbing.
A big one for me is that Chris's mom, the
woman in the wheelchair, was really close with James because
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James actually knew Chris when she was a baby, like
pre transition, pre anything. He like was very close to
Chris's mom because he kind of appeared at Chris's mom's
house one day and be basically became a boarder at
at her house, which for me is so weird, Like
does this just happen, Like people just come to your
house and ask to board and then they do, and
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then they become lifelong friends. I don't know, maybe I've
never heard of that. I mean, I would definitely make
them pay rent. I mean, if someone would pay half
my rent, that'd be fine, but they would have to
live in the bathtub, okay, which is outside, So I'm
not even technically Well, did you get moved so I
don't have the bathrooms? My sister's bathtub became the tub
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she did, and this will now be the second time
she has moved the tub from one house to another
house and it has never been used. It just sits there.
It's for mosquitoes. It's a mosquito tub that can actually
seriously attract mosquitoes. Like, yeah, it does. So let me
tell you the science is true. I've done the experiment,
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well my sister has, and I've just been like, okay,
well that sounds like a personal problem. But so I
have a question. Does the Amish thing have anything to
do with this story or did you just say it's
Amish country. I just they just live. They just live
where a lot of Amish people are. Okay, cool, great, um,
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but thanks for clarifying. So it is super scary to
me that she was very close with James. They were
all living together under one house, and then she like
he was a very close friend to the entire family.
He was like an uncle to Chris and her sisters.
And so Chris's mom is just sitting there watching all
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of this happen, watching her friend James be mistreated by
her own daughter, and she does nothing. That's like very
weird to me. I just think that is quite disturbing. Anyway.
Another thing it's super sketchy to me is that Chris
actually worked as a healthcare aid for the elderly, but
she didn't notice the negative effects of the exercise she
was forcing James into like she would like she should
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have known better, is basically what I'm saying, which is
kind of weird. Most people know to not dunk people underwater,
not like actually like literally pick people up and throw
them into a pool. Mind you, the pool was only
four feet deep. That's wow, that's not Yeah, this don't
make sense. I mean, if they're all living together with
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Chris and her sisters and her mom, this is kind
of sounding like a beguiled situation like that movie where
it's like, anyway, I mean, that's how that's how they
grew up. And then it seems like when Chris transitioned.
Three years after she transitioned, she and James got married
and then moved into an apartment that apartment complex, also
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taking Chris's mom with her, and actually, prior to the death,
Chris's mom told Chris like, I can't live with you anymore.
You are I just I can't do it. So interesting.
Did she have a reason or she just she said
it's quoted. I love Chris, but I couldn't live with
her anymore. Okay, we've all been there. We've all been
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there exactly. My sister in her tub, you know, Yeah,
I love her, can't live with that tub anymore. I
can't live with it. Um. Yeah, it seems like, you know,
James was a very mild mannered kind and he was
a little bit of a people pleaser. He was a veteran.
He was just very close with the family. Chris's sister
says that she didn't find out about the marriage until
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after it happened, and she feels like Chris might have
just convinced James to do it. Like the couple was
kind of described as Chris having a very domineering personality
and then James being timid and relatively like me and
just someone who you know. The sisters quoted saying you
would tell James Hey, let's go to the movies and
be like okay to really like anything. Her mom also
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says that she didn't see any harsh treatment that day
at the pool, but that she had witnessed abuse on
Chris's end in the past, like one time Chris picked
up and threw a chair that James was sitting in. What, Yeah,
like swiped it out from underneath him. Yeah, chucked it
through it, yeah, Or one time Chris's mom walked into
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their living room and saw that James was standing in
a corner with his eyes to the wall because Chris
told him too, So stuff like that. Also, there had
been many like elderly safety checks because a lot of
neighbors heard routine screaming and throwing furniture around in the apartment.
So great. Yeah, And what's what's annoying to me is
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that Chris's mom is like, I don't mean to talk
badly about Chris, like in the interviews, or like, no,
Chris like loved James very much, but then bespilling like everything,
like literally, Chris's mom in an interview goes, I don't
want to make things MESSI or talk bad about Chris.
But she was a crack cocaine user before, and I'm
just like, oh my gosh, lady, like, what is going on?
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Where is your head at? This is crazy. She's just
trying to, you know, spit some truths while also being like,
I'm the mom and this is a really bad situation.
So it was a little bit tricky because the authorities
couldn't necessarily find evidence of foul play. Chris was receiving
money from James because he was a veteran, and it
seems like there was a retirement account that she got
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a hold of after his death, so that could be
a thing. Her mom also, apart from admitting about Chris's
drug addiction, also said that Chris had been arrested for
smaller things such as like a bar fight in the
past where she is not allowed anymore to go to
that bar, and just other like aggressive behaviors basically, so
she had had encounters with the police before. But ultimately
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they couldn't prove that Chris had malicious intent because there
was an audio on the footage and it was hard
to determine what was going on essentially, So and also
I think Chris's lawyer used some psychological like Chris isn't okay,
like psychologically kind of situation to hopefully lessen the sentence.
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So that's what happened. So they gave Chris four years
for reckless homicide after she pleaded guilty, and Chris's mom
was okay with it. According to the interviews, James's sister
was really upset about it, and she says that after
James was cremated, Chris called her and asked her to
pick this up and do something with it. I guard
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like the ashes. Basically, she didn't want to have anything
to do with the ashes. And also when the funeral happened,
Chris didn't attend the funeral. So James's sisters like, she's
faking it, and that's what happened. Wow, Okay, what a
happiest story. Yeah, and that's what happened. All right, thank you, Nika.
We will be right back. Okay, welcome back. So, pools, exhaustion,
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terrible deaths. Everyone knows that pool safety is a thing.
So and there are all kinds of dangers. Oh yeah,
I see how it's related because there's a pool in
the previous story. Yeah yeah, and now we're talking about
pool safety. Wow, yeah, what do you know? Is it
true that you can't eat before swimming. That was literally
the first thing I was gonna say, Oh, way, yes,
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so there is the rule because it's like very very
obvious or that's like a very common thing. Everyone's heard
that rumor that you can't swim after eating. But that
is just a myth. Just I think that it was
just that our parents wanted to break from watching us
in the pool. But the theory was that getting in
the water diverts the blood flow during the digestion and
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the necessary bloodflow to your stomach. So but it's just
still lies, eat them snacks, swim, live your life. I'm
so surprised because that's like a big part of my childhood. Yeah,
I literally think that it was just I mean, I
guess it's something that people heard, but nobody really knew why.
But I actually think it was just an excuse for
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parents to like take a break because it's stressful watching
a bunch of kids, like watching kids in a pool,
very stressful because you know, yeah, I'm in brother, WinCE,
I'm almost drowning exactly. Brothers do that. Yeah, we've all
been there. Oh. One of the bigger dangers and true
dangers is swimming during a thunder storm or I guess
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lightning storm. And so we all know that electricity and
water does not mix, but I've never really known why.
So here's some science I read. It's because electricity is
a scorpio and then water. Well, I guess actually the
water would be a scorpio water sign like a Libra
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or something because it's an air sign. Yeah yeah, or
like a Sagittarius or something. I feel like they wouldn't
get on very well. I get it, you know, like
maybe there's like intense attraction, but that's like we don't
actually like it. It's like very toxic levers and scorpios
actually get along really well. So I agree with keeping
it a sage very Oh wait, Taylor, I'm very electrifying.
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Um so fun fact, it isn't the water that's the problem.
It's the impurities like minerals and dust or in your
water and dissolve so like pure water or distilled water
doesn't actually conduct electricity. It's actually an electrical insulator. But
don't like get it twisted. I'm not telling you to
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go like do some weird science shit like please don't
do that. Are you saying my water is dusty? Tailor
I show up, I am. There's all kinds of stuff
like you know in in water sharks ss. Well, there's
a lot of things that alligators that yes, that is
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where I was gonna go with this, But there's a
lot of things that are dissolved in the water that
have ions, which are electrically charged when electric voltage is introduced,
and that is what actually what is conducting the electricity.
So the ocean has salt and other all kinds of
other crap making it extra conducting. And you know, you
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got your alligators and crocod dills. So even with distilled
with ions, yeah, they're filled with ions, and the ions
or what is conducting the elect the electricy we have ions?
Are we dusty? We're yeah, we're so dusty. I mean
two of us are definitely dusty. One of us is not. Okay,
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well I took a shower this morning, so okay, okay.
But even with distilled water, there are elements that can
get in there, like from the container or like you know,
I keep saying dust, but like dust from the air.
They get in there. So like I'm not saying, like
if you fill your pool with distilled water, that's that's
not gonna it's still not okay because there's still stuff
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in the air that's gonna get in there. So obviously
it's true. It's true that if you, you know, I
want to go for a swim, but there's like a
lightning storm, you shouldn't because maybe the lightning will be
attracted to the water and the ions in the water. Correct, correct,
but not maybe like definitely, oh like one hundred and
ten percent, million percent, yes, like Nica, make better choices.
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Do not get if there's a gator in your pool,
definitely don't swim and that pool heard because of the ions,
because of the ions, right, because the alligator has his
eye on you. No, I'm gonna go down. I'm gonna
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excuse myself. Oh I just didn't joke. Okay, you're dead.
I'm gonna mark it. Maybe will use it as the
do do. Yeah, there you go, so full circle. We
did it. Um. But obviously, so that being said, you're
swimming in a pool, storm comes rolling in, you're chilling
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in a vat of electric conductivity, and lightning is electricity.
Ergo danger because you don't want electricity in your body,
because you could, like it just messes with everything. It
can stop your heart and you know what happens when
that happens. Are you telling us that we shouldn't get
struck by lightning? I'm also telling you that, yes, what
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the hell, Taylor? Yeah, come back, I'm sorry unless you're
a Sagittarius, because then you're very electric. What am I
gonna do during a thunderstorm? Now? Well, stay in doors?
If if there's a thunderstorm, but you want to dance
in the rain, Um, is that is that bad? Yeah? Fuck,
it's all bad. Also, if you're like outside, like mowing
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the lawn, like using power tools or something out in
the rain, you shouldn't do that as well. I didn't. Well, luckily, luckily,
I do not do any chores, so yeah, Gabby really doesn't.
How are you going to live alone? Gabby M Yeah,
well I don't have a yard anymore, so ten out
of ten. That's also, I'm not going to have any things. Great,
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so I don't have to do anything. Well, I'm going
to ask you to do one thing, and that is
for you to tell your story. Wow, Okay, I was
born in October in nineteen great, we vote went in October. Gabby? Second,
remember your birthday? You know it just think about it.
Just think you know it? You know it? Nica? Oh
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my god, is it Halloween? Yes? I knew it. See
you knew it? Um yeah, listener, my birthday's on Halloween.
So Benmobi sixty nine dollars because that worked for Uniqua.
Someone Ben Modu five dollars to join our hippo cult.
So funny to me, and I hope you share it
evenly distributed to the three of us. Absolutely, yeah, drinks
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on me, you guys, well, I'll like yeah literally, Oh
we could get one well yeah, three fourths of the shot. Yeah,
we can get maybe one shot. Cheap shot. Yeah, cheap shot.
Oh wow, Taylor, you're out of control today. Um okay,
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Gay take it away before I destroyed the podcast even
more so, we're talking about Moliair and if you don't
know who he is, get the fuck out of here. Okay,
go back home. You're at home hopefully or you're in
your car. You're doing something anyway. Molliair he was big dude,
big big deal, you know. Ah. He was one of
the most celebrated playwrights and actors in French history or
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like the world history of writers. Some people even call
French the language of Moliair, but Mole wasn't his real name.
It was kind of more of his moniker like you know,
Share and Jewel, even though I guess that is their
first names. But his real name was Jean Baptiste Pucule.
And then growing up also he got bullied a lot
because he had a big nose and so like his
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family called him Lune, which means the nose. I know,
so mean his parents are canceled. Okay. The thing is
then after you know, he was he was doing things
in business and ship, but then he was like, m
I want to actually do the theater. So he quit
what he was doing and he started his own theater company.
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But then he went bankrupt, Oops and daisies, and he
was then sent to a debtor's prison for just like
a day. But there is where people think he might
have actually contracted tuberculosis, and that's important because it relates
to how he dies, because he dies of tuberculosis anyway,
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then if you think about it, you know, in history,
tuberculosis usually not a good sign. Yeah, yeah, we all
know from our favorite film Mulin Rouge that tuberculosis is
no good because Satine gets it and she's you know,
we know what happens with tuberculosis. You're singing a song
and then you pass out and you fall from a swing,
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and then someone catches you and then you cough blood
into a hand. Every single time, you're always saying that's
the thing. But tuberculosis, it's been around for a while,
you know. Um. There is a Chinese doctor in like
the two hundreds great century who described the disease as
the disease has many changing symptoms, varying from thirty six
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to ninety nine different kinds. Wow. It generally gives rise
to high fever, sweating pains, making all positions difficult. I
guess he maybe means sex positions. Gradually, after months and
years of suffering, this lingering disease brings about death to
the sufferer. Afterwards, it is transferred to others until the
whole family is wiped out. So a little dramatic, but
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real aggressive, real aggressive. But yeah, tuberculos was very fatal,
and I didn't realize that you could just have it
for years and years and years before you would die.
But eventually it would kill you. And usually tuberculos is
it It attacks the lungs. That's why you get the
blood coughing, but it can also affect other parts of
your body, like the kidneys. It likes the kidneys too.
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And in seventeenth century Europe, which is when wally Air
was around, it had reached epidemic proportions. It was usually
called consumption. And in England they're thinking it killed one
in five people. Were in France, I think there was
like similar numbers one in five people. And it got
so bad. It got so bad that sometimes people referred
to it as the white plague, which there's a joke there,
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but I didn't think about it because they only gave
itself to white people or what. Well, I don't know
why it was called. I guess you had the black
death and the white play. I don't know. Maybe they don't. Well,
back in the day, they only saw things in black
and white. Remember, we didn't see color until recently. So
so sorry. I forgot that, so sorry. You know, based
on the movies, there was only we only started having
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color in like the late twenties. You know, Oh, it
is the twenties right now. I forgot the other twenties.
The nineteen twenties. Um was so great, Gubby, I'm good
at everything. Okay, but actually Gabby has the buttercut haircut
right now too, thank you. Yeah. I was trying to
get into the vibe of the riff we had earlier.
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So anyway, Molaire was suffering with TV for a long
ass time and then in kind of in his later
years it was getting even worse. Um, and he also
had mad haters, you know, because just like no, think
of any theater kids. You know, they're all very dramatic, right,
so of course there's gonna be haters and all that.
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That's the core you're supposed to be. You're supposed to
be dramatic. It's dramatic and bisexual. That's all it is,
thousand percent. I cannot delve deeply into this, but I
will say that there's one theater kid I knew who
literally like they're the cross that they had to bear
is like the fact that they got bullied for being
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a theater kid and buy and I get it. Literally,
high school can be really freaking hard. But also, like
you're in your late twenties, let's go to therapy. I mean,
here's the thing. Sometimes people will say, like the theater,
maybe that's their therapy, but it's like, no, therapy is
a different Thank you should too all. Oh absolutely. I
mean I used to be like, my acting classes are
like therapy, and now that I go to therapy, I'm like,
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I was fucking myself up. I was messing myself up. Yeah,
people say that about stand up. Like stand ups, my therapy,
I get to express myself. I'm like, I think it's
pretty much making you worse. But yeah, therapy is different.
My therapy. I have to say it's horse is better
than any therapist I've ever had. Please buy a horse tailor.
(27:00):
I'm begging you. I'm begging you. I need this cell
lign that little mini horse. Oh my god. Oh. I
send Taylor horse videos all the time now all the time,
but they come up on my like for you page,
and I'm like, I don't need to see whether, like
I should get a pink or blue saddle. I need
Taylor to see this. She needs to help me decide
a pink or blue. That's what I thought. You just
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get a brown one, right, Yeah, it was I just
the first thing that came to my head. I'm so sorry. Sorry,
my jokes aren't based on facts anyway. So Moliar had
mad haters and particularly as he was kind of like
his acting was getting a little bit affected by his tuberculosis.
And there's this guy who is the son of a
rival actor, and he said some mad hater shit he
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said about Moliar. He enters nose to the wind on
bow legs, one thrust forward. His wig trails behind him,
stuffed full of bay leaves like a ham what. He
dangles his hands rather carelessly by his sides. His head
sits on his back like a pack on a mule.
He rolls his eyes when he speaks his lines. The
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words are punctuated by endless hit coughs, so hiccup and coughs.
This is a really intense image. Yeah, yeah, mad haters.
So I guess I just imagine him just like yeah,
being really sick on stage, like, oh, I'm doing his lines.
But so now Moliere is like fifty one, and he's
written and performed a bunch of plays. And but the
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latest thing that he wrote is called the lume ladd
imaginaire emotion, the imaginary illness. It is well the imaginary invalid,
so the person who is ill or it's called like
the hypochondriac. Which while the irony of this is that
he is playing the lead character as a hypochondriac, but
he's actually just like really sick. Wow, we love that
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theatrical irony Atlantis Morriset. That's what irony actually is. And
that's like when in every teen romantic comedy that's based
on Shakespeare, they happen to be reading the book that
the comedy is based on, like I love it, yeah,
or like in the movie or play when like they
say the name of the play or the movie and
you're like, yes, I'm with you, I see it. Anyway,
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but he's really sick. And his wife Armand who like
there's some drama around them because like he was forty
when they got married and she was twenty two and
everyone was like ah and at the time he had
also like written a play about a man having a
young wife who then leaves him for somebody else. And anyway,
there's just like a lot of like his life kind
of like reflected his theatrical productions. Isn't that crazy? Wows
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as if he based it off of things that he
experience maybe I don't know, maybe, but his wife Armand
was like the play was open, it was in February,
if was it sixteen seventy three, and Armand is like, babe,
you shouldn't perform. You're like so sick. And he was like, nah, babe,
I got us. So many people are relying on me
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because you know, like I am an esteemed actor of Paris.
I gotta do it. And he said, reported lady that
there are fifty poor workers who have only their daily wage.
What will they do if I don't perform. I will
reproach myself for having failed to give them bread for
a single day when I am entirely capable. It's a
lot of pressure. I mean, it's low key true though,
Like if you think about it even now, like what
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TV shows? If one TV show gets canceled, that's two
hundred jobs done gone. That's terrifying. Yeah. I was going
to say, this is the exact same thing I say
about goodaver gals. So no, I want you guys to
have your bread. Yeah, we're just swimming in bread over here.
I've developed a gluten intolerance anyway. So it's February seventeen,
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sixteen seventy three, and it is the fourth performance of
his play the Hypochondriac and audience are kind of noticing
that Molire wasn't looking too hot. There's this big scene
where the main character pretends to be dead. He's on
his deathbed to trick his wife into admitting that she's
like really greedy and only likes him for, you know,
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his money and shit, and so he's faking his death
and she comes in and she's like, oh hah, yeah,
my husband's dead. Yeah, isn't this great, calls him a
lot of bad names, and is like, hey, we should
pretend that we shouldn't tell people he's dead so I
can go steal this money before people realize it. But
then the main character wakes up and it was like, haha, bitch,
I see you being a bitch. But the thing is
Moliere couldn't actually get up from the deathbed that he
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was acting because he was so sick. He just like
couldn't move, and so people were just like, m looks
like he actually is kind of dying. And then a
couple of scenes later, it was said that audiences notice
that Molier was having convulsions, and then other people said
that they started seeing blood coming from his mouth. And
this was like this was the finale, and you know,
it's never good to like look that bad in the
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finale of a comedy, so they were just like like, okay,
just keep keep going, keep carrying on. The show must
go on. I don't think people wanted him to perform.
It was just Molier was like, I'm a big deal,
so I want to make sure people have their bread.
That is how theater kids are, and I will see
this because I wasn't a production once and I think
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I twisted my ankle during the first like dance like
scene and I still kept going and I was in
severe pain. Yea, if Molier had to dance, he would
have died sooner. He would have definitely passed away quickly.
But they're thinking what happened during the finale is um
that he had a pulmonary hemorrhage, which happens when blood
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leaks from the vessels in the wind pipe into the
main lung. Yeah. That stresses me out. Yeah. And then
in French theatrical lore, people say that Molier actually died
right then and there on the stage doing what he loved,
being the center of attention. But no, he actually after
that he collapsed and they rushed him back to his apartment,
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and his wife and some other people in the theater
troop were trying to get some priests to get over
there to the apartment so that they could give him
his last rights, but two priests refused and then the
third didn't make it on there because and so he
died around MPM that night with no rights, no last rites.
Because at this point the Catholic Church was like, um,
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the theater is a place for scandal, so unless, like
a theater person like renounces their profession before they die,
they will not give them last rites. So drama, I know.
So they were like, no last rites for you, moliar,
because he was like whether because you know, he was
hacking a blood or because of his you know, morality
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or whatever, He's like, I'm not going to renounce my profession. Dogs,
I'm a I'm an actor, bitch. Okay. So he died
without the last rites. But then his wife was like
obviously armand was real upset. She was like, damn, dudes,
like I want him to have his last rite so
he can be buried in like in sacred grounds. This
is like fucked up. So she went to go see
Louie the fourteenth Louie Katours and was like damn, please,
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Louie Katours like, let him be buried in sacred grounds shit,
and Louie Katres was like, okay, wee wee dock or
let's do it. But even with the king then being like, yeah,
he can be buried in like a sacred grounds, the
priests were still being butt heads about it, and we're
just like, okay, he can be buried in these cemeteries.
But under this parameter is that he has to be
in the same burial grounds as we're all the people
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who commits suicide and the poor people are, so we'll
bury him there. So rude, Yeah, only two priests will
be present, okay, and it has to happen after sunset
the actual burial, which that's rude, but it's like we're
gonna we have to do it at night. And also
he cannot have a big congregation to come to the
funeral or whatever. But you know, what we all know
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from being in the theater adjacent to the theater is
that you know, you cannot stop theater people from gathering
in tom foolery. So the night that he was buried,
a bunch of his pals and supporters followed the procession
by torch light, so they did get to celebrate Moliere,
and you know, now he's still very famous and one
of the most you know, studied and performed playwrights. You
could even say that because of his death, he became
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hello controversial and therefore even more people know about him. Yeah,
so suck it, priests. Yeah, I mean, I definitely just
do think people in the entertainment and industry, it is
definitely very scandalous to be doing this would kind of work. So,
I mean, I kind of get their perspective. We're very scandalous.
We're very scandalous people. So anyway, but Moliere, the thing
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is when he died, he was wearing green when he
was on stage and when he died, and so that's
so today in the theater, apparently it is still bad
luck to wear green. So don't wear green at the end.
Don't do it. Okay, we'll be back with more nonsense.
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All right, welcome back. All you could have her pals
and gals and guys and dolls dolls. Question, are you
all superstitious? I extremely yes, are you Gobby No? Well,
I do think vibes play a part in the world,
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but I think that can also just then be reflect
like if you have negative energy, maybe your superstitions will
I'm true, because you know, you're just you have bad vibes.
But that's a different thing. I feel like, I don't know.
Perhaps the most superstitious people out there are theater people.
There are so many superstitions. I had never even heard
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of some of them, but there are a lot out there.
Like Gabby, you just mentioned that green was a cursed
color because Moliere was wearing that when he died. It
is cursed. But there was also another color that was cursed,
and that was blue, But it was for another reason
because it was like really expensive, like blue clothing was expensive.
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Like I really don't understand why. They just didn't want
to show that they had put too much money into
it and like hold it to a higher esteem or something.
Then I don't know, it was silly, but like blue,
you can't wear blue. You can't wear a green. You can't. Really,
It's just like by the end of it, it's gonna
just be the whole rainbow. I don't know, You're just
gonna have to wear skin tones, just like Kanye's line
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of clothing or something spiation came from. It's so And
then there's also the famous line of break a leg,
like instead of good luck, which actually comes from there's
like the like like the part of the curtain is
actually called a leg, and so like if the performance
is amazing, then like the curtain's going up and down
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or whatever, and then you break it, so they're not
even talking about your actual leg. Who knew what you know?
Oh yeah yeah? So hey, why aren't you supposed to
say good luck? Though? So you're not supposed to say
good luck because that's bad luck. Yeah, I guess, so
break a leg, damn, because you want to break the curtain.
I wanted people to care about my legs. It's not
they don't care about your legs, wow, Or they do
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care about your legs because they're not talking about your
actual leg anyway. Um, So all of those are kind
of silly, but there is The most interesting and famous
is to never say Macbeth because accidents and even death
will occur if you Speaketh the name. What if you're
in Macbeth, Well, that's especially bad because you got to
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say it right. So the first performance was in the
early seventeenth century. The actor playing Lady Macbeth died randomly,
so Shakespeare himself was like, I guess I'll have to
do it, because at this point they, I guess didn't
think about having an understudy. Then there was another actor
who was stabbed in one of the fight scenes because
they used a real dagger rather than a prop. So
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they just did like real fighting and they acted out
the whole thing as if it were real. But it's
actually not just the actors that have been cursed. There
was also these riots from the audience over there was
like a rivalry between two actors, and so all these
people were like pissed at like who was casted or whatever,
and so they come in riot. Twenty two people died
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and over one hundred people were injured. Theater kids, the
other kids, they were intense or are intense. They're still, yes,
they do. There's also a stage manager for the play
in nineteen thirty seven died in a rehearsal, and then
also a director and actor for Macbeth died in a
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car accident. And so some people say, like, that's that's
a lot. That's a lot of accidents, that's a lot
of deaths, and so some say that it's actually cursed
because Shakespeare put in real spells into the play with
a dialogue with the Three Witches, and so they're like
they like nobody. The superstition is so deep, it's like Voldemart.
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They won't even refer to scary. That's scary, Like that's
like the words they do. They refer to it as
the Bards play or the Scottish play. Can you imagine
your work being so powerful that that is literally how
people treat it. That's iconic. Yeah, it's very iconic, but
it's also like terrifying. Link what like, what if you
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accidentally say Macbeth though you have to leave the theata,
you have to spin around three times, spit over your
left shoulder, and then curse like expletive expletive, knock three
times and asked to be let back in the theater
and then no one will die. I love that you
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said explative, explative as if we don't curse multiple times
on this podcast. But I like, I like expletive sometimes
I like to use that as my curse. I'll be like,
oh yeah, why not. So yeah, there's like a lot.
I mean, there's so many other um, so many other
things that that you can't do on in the theater.
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You can't whistle as well, because they had sailors who
would like communicate whistling, and then if you whistle, then
you accidentally like signal them to like do something and
then mess it all up and then something would you know,
drop a joist. I don't know. The sailor like sailors
who would come to the shows. Yeah, like they worked,
(40:57):
like they'd be like, oh, I'm not I'm not at
sea right now because of the lightning. I'm just kidding.
I don't know. And the gators and negators, and so
they would work at the theater behind backstage, and they
would communicate by whistling to each other. And so if
you whistle, then that could be like a miss signal
and have another accident. That's fascinating. Did you know that
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in the like I think nineteenth century actors were buried
with a steak in their heart because they thought that
like their performances were so good that maybe they would
come back to life or something like that, or they're
just playing possum exactly, like they were literally scared, so
they would bury them like very violently. That's I don't
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think well we can that's that's for another day. But
but yeah, so all kinds of superstitions and the the alta.
I feel like that's a lot of stuff to back
up the Macbeth thing, Like I'm not gonna I mean,
I know I've said it, so maybe I have to
leave spin around, spit over my shoulder. Can you just
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not say it? Because like Shakespeare's also like all the
world's a stage, so like if you say it, I
need to go spit. I sidentally have said it now,
so I think, and this is at all the world's
a stage, Nika, Okay, what's many players or whatever? Players
and haters? Yeah, well anyway, so this, you know, this
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has just been a great episode. I apologize for all
of my very very terrible jokes that I have made
throughout Are you kidding me? They were incredible to thank
you so much. You have usurped me and I was
just looking. I'm now going I'm going to quit my
comedy now because I could never hold a torch to you,
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but I would be falling Moliere by torchlight. You can
today that he died. You can borrow my jokes if
you want, And okay, I'm going to put him in there.
I'm fine with that. And my skit, my stand up skit,
do it. I'll sign the contract sober great. Thank you
all right, Thank you everyone for listening until next week.
Bye Gal. Cadaver Gals is a production of School of
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Humans and iHeartRadio. It is hosted, produced, mixed, researched, et
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School of Humans. Hello, welcome to cadaver Gals, the podcast
where we talk about all of the ways that people
have died throughout history in order to cope with our
own mortality. I'm your favorite host Taylor, along with Mika.
What those are my nails? Know what that's like? My
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fighting stance? And Gabby Wait, hey, okay, so who's the
second favorite? Like? How? What? What's the order? Oh? I
don't know, I just know that I've got to be
the first probably literally why either? What is your one
reason I'm cudding? I'm I'm definitely everyone's lost favorite and
I'm fine. Way wait if we were the powder Puff Girls, though,
(00:52):
I feel like you would be wait what's everyone's name?
I forgot because I feel like you would be better Blossom.
I think Taylor would be Blossom. I think the Bosom,
the red one. Yeah, who's like the La and then
your bubbles? Yeah, and then I'm Buttercup. Yeah. I feel
like we actually embody those pretty well. So okaye, the
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powder Puff Girls. Yeah, so even if you're not the
favorite tailor, you are the leader. Okay, great? Yeah, great,
that was great. This is a great way to start it. So, um,
today we're going to hear about how a woman made
her man overdre some water aerobics, and the last performance
of Moulie. Trigger warnings for this episode are include, but
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are not limited to, drowning, electric shock, heart conditions, domestic abuse,
elderly abuse, crack, cocaine, blood, blood, and because of the
theater kids, Ah, they're scary. All yea, all, that's fantastic.
All right. Que alligator musical? Okay, welcome back. Love that music?
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All right, Nika, do you want to take us away
with your dark too? Yes? Absolutely, And first I just
want to clarify. We have had comments asking why do
y'all call it alligator music? And the reason is because
the first time that we listened to it, I had
a vision and the vision was of like a alligator
in a swamp. He's retired, he's drinking a beer, and
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that's the kind of music he listens to. It kind
of just stuck with everyone, I think, question Mark, Well, yeah, Also,
Cadavergals is the your premiere news source for gator related content.
That is true, that's what it is. So sadly we're
not talking about gators today, but you know so um
so that's why we do it. So what you think, Oh,
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that's actually true. I'm not fully prepared. I'm gonna throw
it in somewhere. I'm gonna think. I'm gonna think. Okay,
everything can go back to gators. We can tie everything
back to the gate. I can make it happen. I
know you can. That's because your blossom. Yep. Okay. So
we are going to June's second two thousand and eight
Interesting Times to a very interesting couple in Middlefield, Ohio.
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Amish country. You know what it is? So okay, okay,
Amish country. I'm so sorry to the Amish who listened
to us. So um, that is not laughable. It's illegal
for Amish people to listen to us. By illegal, I
mean their own belief system, but also maybe their taste
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in media. You never know. I hope that there's one
Amish listener you know out there. There's not. They're just
holding it down. You don't know. Yeah, they're not. They're
not allowed to have electricity. Okay, what are they doing
it secretly? Are they just overhear us as a car
that's driving by, and they get so seduced by the
sound of the podcast that they're like, we got to
(04:02):
follow that in our buggy a buggy nah its pictured
like the Flyntstone's buggy. Okay, So local police receive a
call and he'll know it's always badmen. Local police receive
a call about an unresponsive man in an apartment This
(04:22):
is so sad I got a tot of down in
an apartment complex pool. And they arrive at the scene
to find Chris Mason, a forty one year old transgender woman,
James Mason, her seventy three year old husband, and Chris's mom,
who is also in her seventies and in a wheelchair.
Do we have all the main players here? Do we
understand what's going on? Three people? Wait, who's the one
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in the pool? The one in the pool is Chris's husband, James, James,
Chris and Chris's mom. Yeah, I just I couldn't find
her name, or maybe I did, but I didn't write
a zone. Okay. Anyway, So James had collapsed right outside
of the pool and had a heart attack, and the
authorities rushed into the hospital, but by then it was
(05:05):
to lay and they had to put him on life support. Bad.
He had coordinary artery disease, which obviously made s journeous
activity pretty dangerous. So far, all of this tracks very normal.
You know, you're in your seventies kind of stuff. Okay.
He spent that night on life support, and then his wife, Chris,
decided to cut off his life support the next day. Okay,
(05:27):
so I thought you were about to say, like cut
off his legs or something, but um no. Anyway, so
everything is relatively normal to this point. But then authorities
they weren't sure what happened at first, and Chris blamed
it on over exercise, as it seemed like happened. However,
there was a camera in the pool that caught everything
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on tape, and when they reviewed it, the results were
really really disturbing. So basically, yeah, that's why it's on
the show. Basically, the footage shows Chris and James in
the pool of the apartment complex and Chris his mom
is nearby in her wheelchair sitting okay, and Chris, who
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is two times the size of James and obviously much younger.
It seems like in the in the video she is
forcing him to exercise. And I saw one still of
the video where it looks like he was trying to
sit by the edge of the pool and she dragged
him in by his ankles. This man is seventy three. Yeah.
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She also tossed him and dunked him into the water
multiple times, like head underwater, like holding him under basically
and wow. Yes, and he has seen clinging to the
side of the pool, but um, she drags him into
the middle to swim. The authorities also saw that he
tried to get out of the pool forty three times,
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but blocks his way every single time. Damn. That is
Chris is like not a good personal chainer, you know, no, no,
there is so much about this story that is disturbing.
A big one for me is that Chris's mom, the
woman in the wheelchair, was really close with James because
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James actually knew Chris when she was a baby, like
pre transition, pre anything. He like was very close to
Chris's mom because he kind of appeared at Chris's mom's
house one day and be basically became a boarder at
at her house, which for me is so weird, Like
does this just happen, Like people just come to your
house and ask to board and then they do, and
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then they become lifelong friends. I don't know, maybe I've
never heard of that. I mean, I would definitely make
them pay rent. I mean, if someone would pay half
my rent, that'd be fine, but they would have to
live in the bathtub, okay, which is outside, So I'm
not even technically Well, did you get moved so I
don't have the bathrooms? My sister's bathtub became the tub
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she did, and this will now be the second time
she has moved the tub from one house to another
house and it has never been used. It just sits there.
It's for mosquitoes. It's a mosquito tub that can actually
seriously attract mosquitoes. Like, yeah, it does. So let me
tell you the science is true. I've done the experiment,
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well my sister has, and I've just been like, okay,
well that sounds like a personal problem. But so I
have a question. Does the Amish thing have anything to
do with this story or did you just say it's
Amish country. I just they just live. They just live
where a lot of Amish people are. Okay, cool, great, um,
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but thanks for clarifying. So it is super scary to
me that she was very close with James. They were
all living together under one house, and then she like
he was a very close friend to the entire family.
He was like an uncle to Chris and her sisters.
And so Chris's mom is just sitting there watching all
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of this happen, watching her friend James be mistreated by
her own daughter, and she does nothing. That's like very
weird to me. I just think that is quite disturbing. Anyway.
Another thing it's super sketchy to me is that Chris
actually worked as a healthcare aid for the elderly, but
she didn't notice the negative effects of the exercise she
was forcing James into like she would like she should
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have known better, is basically what I'm saying, which is
kind of weird. Most people know to not dunk people underwater,
not like actually like literally pick people up and throw
them into a pool. Mind you, the pool was only
four feet deep. That's wow, that's not Yeah, this don't
make sense. I mean, if they're all living together with
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Chris and her sisters and her mom, this is kind
of sounding like a beguiled situation like that movie where
it's like, anyway, I mean, that's how that's how they
grew up. And then it seems like when Chris transitioned.
Three years after she transitioned, she and James got married
and then moved into an apartment that apartment complex, also
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taking Chris's mom with her, and actually, prior to the death,
Chris's mom told Chris like, I can't live with you anymore.
You are I just I can't do it. So interesting.
Did she have a reason or she just she said
it's quoted. I love Chris, but I couldn't live with
her anymore. Okay, we've all been there. We've all been
(10:30):
there exactly. My sister in her tub, you know, Yeah,
I love her, can't live with that tub anymore. I
can't live with it. Um. Yeah, it seems like, you know,
James was a very mild mannered kind and he was
a little bit of a people pleaser. He was a veteran.
He was just very close with the family. Chris's sister
says that she didn't find out about the marriage until
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after it happened, and she feels like Chris might have
just convinced James to do it. Like the couple was
kind of described as Chris having a very domineering personality
and then James being timid and relatively like me and
just someone who you know. The sisters quoted saying you
would tell James Hey, let's go to the movies and
be like okay to really like anything. Her mom also
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says that she didn't see any harsh treatment that day
at the pool, but that she had witnessed abuse on
Chris's end in the past, like one time Chris picked
up and threw a chair that James was sitting in. What, Yeah,
like swiped it out from underneath him. Yeah, chucked it
through it, yeah, Or one time Chris's mom walked into
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their living room and saw that James was standing in
a corner with his eyes to the wall because Chris
told him too, So stuff like that. Also, there had
been many like elderly safety checks because a lot of
neighbors heard routine screaming and throwing furniture around in the apartment.
So great. Yeah, And what's what's annoying to me is
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that Chris's mom is like, I don't mean to talk
badly about Chris, like in the interviews, or like, no,
Chris like loved James very much, but then bespilling like everything,
like literally, Chris's mom in an interview goes, I don't
want to make things MESSI or talk bad about Chris.
But she was a crack cocaine user before, and I'm
just like, oh my gosh, lady, like, what is going on?
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Where is your head at? This is crazy. She's just
trying to, you know, spit some truths while also being like,
I'm the mom and this is a really bad situation.
So it was a little bit tricky because the authorities
couldn't necessarily find evidence of foul play. Chris was receiving
money from James because he was a veteran, and it
seems like there was a retirement account that she got
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a hold of after his death, so that could be
a thing. Her mom also, apart from admitting about Chris's
drug addiction, also said that Chris had been arrested for
smaller things such as like a bar fight in the
past where she is not allowed anymore to go to
that bar, and just other like aggressive behaviors basically, so
she had had encounters with the police before. But ultimately
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they couldn't prove that Chris had malicious intent because there
was an audio on the footage and it was hard
to determine what was going on essentially, So and also
I think Chris's lawyer used some psychological like Chris isn't okay,
like psychologically kind of situation to hopefully lessen the sentence.
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So that's what happened. So they gave Chris four years
for reckless homicide after she pleaded guilty, and Chris's mom
was okay with it. According to the interviews, James's sister
was really upset about it, and she says that after
James was cremated, Chris called her and asked her to
pick this up and do something with it. I guard
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like the ashes. Basically, she didn't want to have anything
to do with the ashes. And also when the funeral happened,
Chris didn't attend the funeral. So James's sisters like, she's
faking it, and that's what happened. Wow, Okay, what a
happiest story. Yeah, and that's what happened. All right, thank you, Nika.
We will be right back. Okay, welcome back. So, pools, exhaustion,
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terrible deaths. Everyone knows that pool safety is a thing.
So and there are all kinds of dangers. Oh yeah,
I see how it's related because there's a pool in
the previous story. Yeah yeah, and now we're talking about
pool safety. Wow, yeah, what do you know? Is it
true that you can't eat before swimming. That was literally
the first thing I was gonna say, Oh, way, yes,
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so there is the rule because it's like very very
obvious or that's like a very common thing. Everyone's heard
that rumor that you can't swim after eating. But that
is just a myth. Just I think that it was
just that our parents wanted to break from watching us
in the pool. But the theory was that getting in
the water diverts the blood flow during the digestion and
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the necessary bloodflow to your stomach. So but it's just
still lies, eat them snacks, swim, live your life. I'm
so surprised because that's like a big part of my childhood. Yeah,
I literally think that it was just I mean, I
guess it's something that people heard, but nobody really knew why.
But I actually think it was just an excuse for
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parents to like take a break because it's stressful watching
a bunch of kids, like watching kids in a pool,
very stressful because you know, yeah, I'm in brother, WinCE,
I'm almost drowning exactly. Brothers do that. Yeah, we've all
been there. Oh. One of the bigger dangers and true
dangers is swimming during a thunder storm or I guess
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lightning storm. And so we all know that electricity and
water does not mix, but I've never really known why.
So here's some science I read. It's because electricity is
a scorpio and then water. Well, I guess actually the
water would be a scorpio water sign like a Libra
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or something because it's an air sign. Yeah yeah, or
like a Sagittarius or something. I feel like they wouldn't
get on very well. I get it, you know, like
maybe there's like intense attraction, but that's like we don't
actually like it. It's like very toxic levers and scorpios
actually get along really well. So I agree with keeping
it a sage very Oh wait, Taylor, I'm very electrifying.
(16:30):
Um so fun fact, it isn't the water that's the problem.
It's the impurities like minerals and dust or in your
water and dissolve so like pure water or distilled water
doesn't actually conduct electricity. It's actually an electrical insulator. But
don't like get it twisted. I'm not telling you to
(16:52):
go like do some weird science shit like please don't
do that. Are you saying my water is dusty? Tailor
I show up, I am. There's all kinds of stuff
like you know in in water sharks ss. Well, there's
a lot of things that alligators that yes, that is
(17:13):
where I was gonna go with this, But there's a
lot of things that are dissolved in the water that
have ions, which are electrically charged when electric voltage is introduced,
and that is what actually what is conducting the electricity.
So the ocean has salt and other all kinds of
other crap making it extra conducting. And you know, you
(17:35):
got your alligators and crocod dills. So even with distilled
with ions, yeah, they're filled with ions, and the ions
or what is conducting the elect the electricy we have ions?
Are we dusty? We're yeah, we're so dusty. I mean
two of us are definitely dusty. One of us is not. Okay,
(17:56):
well I took a shower this morning, so okay, okay.
But even with distilled water, there are elements that can
get in there, like from the container or like you know,
I keep saying dust, but like dust from the air.
They get in there. So like I'm not saying, like
if you fill your pool with distilled water, that's that's
not gonna it's still not okay because there's still stuff
(18:17):
in the air that's gonna get in there. So obviously
it's true. It's true that if you, you know, I
want to go for a swim, but there's like a
lightning storm, you shouldn't because maybe the lightning will be
attracted to the water and the ions in the water. Correct, correct,
but not maybe like definitely, oh like one hundred and
ten percent, million percent, yes, like Nica, make better choices.
(18:39):
Do not get if there's a gator in your pool,
definitely don't swim and that pool heard because of the ions,
because of the ions, right, because the alligator has his
eye on you. No, I'm gonna go down. I'm gonna
(19:00):
excuse myself. Oh I just didn't joke. Okay, you're dead.
I'm gonna mark it. Maybe will use it as the
do do. Yeah, there you go, so full circle. We
did it. Um. But obviously, so that being said, you're
swimming in a pool, storm comes rolling in, you're chilling
(19:20):
in a vat of electric conductivity, and lightning is electricity.
Ergo danger because you don't want electricity in your body,
because you could, like it just messes with everything. It
can stop your heart and you know what happens when
that happens. Are you telling us that we shouldn't get
struck by lightning? I'm also telling you that, yes, what
(19:43):
the hell, Taylor? Yeah, come back, I'm sorry unless you're
a Sagittarius, because then you're very electric. What am I
gonna do during a thunderstorm? Now? Well, stay in doors?
If if there's a thunderstorm, but you want to dance
in the rain, Um, is that is that bad? Yeah? Fuck,
it's all bad. Also, if you're like outside, like mowing
(20:04):
the lawn, like using power tools or something out in
the rain, you shouldn't do that as well. I didn't. Well, luckily, luckily,
I do not do any chores, so yeah, Gabby really doesn't.
How are you going to live alone? Gabby M Yeah,
well I don't have a yard anymore, so ten out
of ten. That's also, I'm not going to have any things. Great,
(20:29):
so I don't have to do anything. Well, I'm going
to ask you to do one thing, and that is
for you to tell your story. Wow, Okay, I was
born in October in nineteen great, we vote went in October. Gabby? Second,
remember your birthday? You know it just think about it.
Just think you know it? You know it? Nica? Oh
(20:50):
my god, is it Halloween? Yes? I knew it. See
you knew it? Um yeah, listener, my birthday's on Halloween.
So Benmobi sixty nine dollars because that worked for Uniqua.
Someone Ben Modu five dollars to join our hippo cult.
So funny to me, and I hope you share it
evenly distributed to the three of us. Absolutely, yeah, drinks
(21:15):
on me, you guys, well, I'll like yeah literally, Oh
we could get one well yeah, three fourths of the shot. Yeah,
we can get maybe one shot. Cheap shot. Yeah, cheap shot.
Oh wow, Taylor, you're out of control today. Um okay,
(21:37):
Gay take it away before I destroyed the podcast even
more so, we're talking about Moliair and if you don't
know who he is, get the fuck out of here. Okay,
go back home. You're at home hopefully or you're in
your car. You're doing something anyway. Molliair he was big dude,
big big deal, you know. Ah. He was one of
the most celebrated playwrights and actors in French history or
(21:57):
like the world history of writers. Some people even call
French the language of Moliair, but Mole wasn't his real name.
It was kind of more of his moniker like you know,
Share and Jewel, even though I guess that is their
first names. But his real name was Jean Baptiste Pucule.
And then growing up also he got bullied a lot
because he had a big nose and so like his
(22:19):
family called him Lune, which means the nose. I know,
so mean his parents are canceled. Okay. The thing is
then after you know, he was he was doing things
in business and ship, but then he was like, m
I want to actually do the theater. So he quit
what he was doing and he started his own theater company.
(22:41):
But then he went bankrupt, Oops and daisies, and he
was then sent to a debtor's prison for just like
a day. But there is where people think he might
have actually contracted tuberculosis, and that's important because it relates
to how he dies, because he dies of tuberculosis anyway,
(23:07):
then if you think about it, you know, in history,
tuberculosis usually not a good sign. Yeah, yeah, we all
know from our favorite film Mulin Rouge that tuberculosis is
no good because Satine gets it and she's you know,
we know what happens with tuberculosis. You're singing a song
and then you pass out and you fall from a swing,
(23:28):
and then someone catches you and then you cough blood
into a hand. Every single time, you're always saying that's
the thing. But tuberculosis, it's been around for a while,
you know. Um. There is a Chinese doctor in like
the two hundreds great century who described the disease as
the disease has many changing symptoms, varying from thirty six
(23:51):
to ninety nine different kinds. Wow. It generally gives rise
to high fever, sweating pains, making all positions difficult. I
guess he maybe means sex positions. Gradually, after months and
years of suffering, this lingering disease brings about death to
the sufferer. Afterwards, it is transferred to others until the
whole family is wiped out. So a little dramatic, but
(24:13):
real aggressive, real aggressive. But yeah, tuberculos was very fatal,
and I didn't realize that you could just have it
for years and years and years before you would die.
But eventually it would kill you. And usually tuberculos is
it It attacks the lungs. That's why you get the
blood coughing, but it can also affect other parts of
your body, like the kidneys. It likes the kidneys too.
(24:33):
And in seventeenth century Europe, which is when wally Air
was around, it had reached epidemic proportions. It was usually
called consumption. And in England they're thinking it killed one
in five people. Were in France, I think there was
like similar numbers one in five people. And it got
so bad. It got so bad that sometimes people referred
to it as the white plague, which there's a joke there,
(24:55):
but I didn't think about it because they only gave
itself to white people or what. Well, I don't know
why it was called. I guess you had the black
death and the white play. I don't know. Maybe they don't. Well,
back in the day, they only saw things in black
and white. Remember, we didn't see color until recently. So
so sorry. I forgot that, so sorry. You know, based
on the movies, there was only we only started having
(25:17):
color in like the late twenties. You know, Oh, it
is the twenties right now. I forgot the other twenties.
The nineteen twenties. Um was so great, Gubby, I'm good
at everything. Okay, but actually Gabby has the buttercut haircut
right now too, thank you. Yeah. I was trying to
get into the vibe of the riff we had earlier.
(25:37):
So anyway, Molaire was suffering with TV for a long
ass time and then in kind of in his later
years it was getting even worse. Um, and he also
had mad haters, you know, because just like no, think
of any theater kids. You know, they're all very dramatic, right,
so of course there's gonna be haters and all that.
(25:58):
That's the core you're supposed to be. You're supposed to
be dramatic. It's dramatic and bisexual. That's all it is,
thousand percent. I cannot delve deeply into this, but I
will say that there's one theater kid I knew who
literally like they're the cross that they had to bear
is like the fact that they got bullied for being
(26:18):
a theater kid and buy and I get it. Literally,
high school can be really freaking hard. But also, like
you're in your late twenties, let's go to therapy. I mean,
here's the thing. Sometimes people will say, like the theater,
maybe that's their therapy, but it's like, no, therapy is
a different Thank you should too all. Oh absolutely. I
mean I used to be like, my acting classes are
like therapy, and now that I go to therapy, I'm like,
(26:39):
I was fucking myself up. I was messing myself up. Yeah,
people say that about stand up. Like stand ups, my therapy,
I get to express myself. I'm like, I think it's
pretty much making you worse. But yeah, therapy is different.
My therapy. I have to say it's horse is better
than any therapist I've ever had. Please buy a horse tailor.
(27:00):
I'm begging you. I'm begging you. I need this cell
lign that little mini horse. Oh my god. Oh. I
send Taylor horse videos all the time now all the time,
but they come up on my like for you page,
and I'm like, I don't need to see whether, like
I should get a pink or blue saddle. I need
Taylor to see this. She needs to help me decide
a pink or blue. That's what I thought. You just
(27:21):
get a brown one, right, Yeah, it was I just
the first thing that came to my head. I'm so sorry. Sorry,
my jokes aren't based on facts anyway. So Moliar had
mad haters and particularly as he was kind of like
his acting was getting a little bit affected by his tuberculosis.
And there's this guy who is the son of a
rival actor, and he said some mad hater shit he
(27:41):
said about Moliar. He enters nose to the wind on
bow legs, one thrust forward. His wig trails behind him,
stuffed full of bay leaves like a ham what. He
dangles his hands rather carelessly by his sides. His head
sits on his back like a pack on a mule.
He rolls his eyes when he speaks his lines. The
(28:02):
words are punctuated by endless hit coughs, so hiccup and coughs.
This is a really intense image. Yeah, yeah, mad haters.
So I guess I just imagine him just like yeah,
being really sick on stage, like, oh, I'm doing his lines.
But so now Moliere is like fifty one, and he's
written and performed a bunch of plays. And but the
(28:23):
latest thing that he wrote is called the lume ladd
imaginaire emotion, the imaginary illness. It is well the imaginary invalid,
so the person who is ill or it's called like
the hypochondriac. Which while the irony of this is that
he is playing the lead character as a hypochondriac, but
he's actually just like really sick. Wow, we love that
(28:44):
theatrical irony Atlantis Morriset. That's what irony actually is. And
that's like when in every teen romantic comedy that's based
on Shakespeare, they happen to be reading the book that
the comedy is based on, like I love it, yeah,
or like in the movie or play when like they
say the name of the play or the movie and
you're like, yes, I'm with you, I see it. Anyway,
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but he's really sick. And his wife Armand who like
there's some drama around them because like he was forty
when they got married and she was twenty two and
everyone was like ah and at the time he had
also like written a play about a man having a
young wife who then leaves him for somebody else. And anyway,
there's just like a lot of like his life kind
of like reflected his theatrical productions. Isn't that crazy? Wows
(29:27):
as if he based it off of things that he
experience maybe I don't know, maybe, but his wife Armand
was like the play was open, it was in February,
if was it sixteen seventy three, and Armand is like, babe,
you shouldn't perform. You're like so sick. And he was like, nah, babe,
I got us. So many people are relying on me
(29:48):
because you know, like I am an esteemed actor of Paris.
I gotta do it. And he said, reported lady that
there are fifty poor workers who have only their daily wage.
What will they do if I don't perform. I will
reproach myself for having failed to give them bread for
a single day when I am entirely capable. It's a
lot of pressure. I mean, it's low key true though,
Like if you think about it even now, like what
(30:10):
TV shows? If one TV show gets canceled, that's two
hundred jobs done gone. That's terrifying. Yeah. I was going
to say, this is the exact same thing I say
about goodaver gals. So no, I want you guys to
have your bread. Yeah, we're just swimming in bread over here.
I've developed a gluten intolerance anyway. So it's February seventeen,
(30:33):
sixteen seventy three, and it is the fourth performance of
his play the Hypochondriac and audience are kind of noticing
that Molire wasn't looking too hot. There's this big scene
where the main character pretends to be dead. He's on
his deathbed to trick his wife into admitting that she's
like really greedy and only likes him for, you know,
(30:53):
his money and shit, and so he's faking his death
and she comes in and she's like, oh hah, yeah,
my husband's dead. Yeah, isn't this great, calls him a
lot of bad names, and is like, hey, we should
pretend that we shouldn't tell people he's dead so I
can go steal this money before people realize it. But
then the main character wakes up and it was like, haha, bitch,
I see you being a bitch. But the thing is
Moliere couldn't actually get up from the deathbed that he
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was acting because he was so sick. He just like
couldn't move, and so people were just like, m looks
like he actually is kind of dying. And then a
couple of scenes later, it was said that audiences notice
that Molier was having convulsions, and then other people said
that they started seeing blood coming from his mouth. And
this was like this was the finale, and you know,
it's never good to like look that bad in the
(31:37):
finale of a comedy, so they were just like like, okay,
just keep keep going, keep carrying on. The show must
go on. I don't think people wanted him to perform.
It was just Molier was like, I'm a big deal,
so I want to make sure people have their bread.
That is how theater kids are, and I will see
this because I wasn't a production once and I think
(31:59):
I twisted my ankle during the first like dance like
scene and I still kept going and I was in
severe pain. Yea, if Molier had to dance, he would
have died sooner. He would have definitely passed away quickly.
But they're thinking what happened during the finale is um
that he had a pulmonary hemorrhage, which happens when blood
(32:20):
leaks from the vessels in the wind pipe into the
main lung. Yeah. That stresses me out. Yeah. And then
in French theatrical lore, people say that Molier actually died
right then and there on the stage doing what he loved,
being the center of attention. But no, he actually after
that he collapsed and they rushed him back to his apartment,
(32:42):
and his wife and some other people in the theater
troop were trying to get some priests to get over
there to the apartment so that they could give him
his last rights, but two priests refused and then the
third didn't make it on there because and so he
died around MPM that night with no rights, no last rites.
Because at this point the Catholic Church was like, um,
(33:04):
the theater is a place for scandal, so unless, like
a theater person like renounces their profession before they die,
they will not give them last rites. So drama, I know.
So they were like, no last rites for you, moliar,
because he was like whether because you know, he was
hacking a blood or because of his you know, morality
(33:26):
or whatever, He's like, I'm not going to renounce my profession. Dogs,
I'm a I'm an actor, bitch. Okay. So he died
without the last rites. But then his wife was like
obviously armand was real upset. She was like, damn, dudes,
like I want him to have his last rite so
he can be buried in like in sacred grounds. This
is like fucked up. So she went to go see
Louie the fourteenth Louie Katours and was like damn, please,
(33:47):
Louie Katours like, let him be buried in sacred grounds shit,
and Louie Katres was like, okay, wee wee dock or
let's do it. But even with the king then being like, yeah,
he can be buried in like a sacred grounds, the
priests were still being butt heads about it, and we're
just like, okay, he can be buried in these cemeteries.
But under this parameter is that he has to be
in the same burial grounds as we're all the people
(34:09):
who commits suicide and the poor people are, so we'll
bury him there. So rude, Yeah, only two priests will
be present, okay, and it has to happen after sunset
the actual burial, which that's rude, but it's like we're
gonna we have to do it at night. And also
he cannot have a big congregation to come to the
funeral or whatever. But you know, what we all know
(34:32):
from being in the theater adjacent to the theater is
that you know, you cannot stop theater people from gathering
in tom foolery. So the night that he was buried,
a bunch of his pals and supporters followed the procession
by torch light, so they did get to celebrate Moliere,
and you know, now he's still very famous and one
of the most you know, studied and performed playwrights. You
could even say that because of his death, he became
(34:55):
hello controversial and therefore even more people know about him. Yeah,
so suck it, priests. Yeah, I mean, I definitely just
do think people in the entertainment and industry, it is
definitely very scandalous to be doing this would kind of work. So,
I mean, I kind of get their perspective. We're very scandalous.
We're very scandalous people. So anyway, but Moliere, the thing
(35:15):
is when he died, he was wearing green when he
was on stage and when he died, and so that's
so today in the theater, apparently it is still bad
luck to wear green. So don't wear green at the end.
Don't do it. Okay, we'll be back with more nonsense.
(35:36):
All right, welcome back. All you could have her pals
and gals and guys and dolls dolls. Question, are you
all superstitious? I extremely yes, are you Gobby No? Well,
I do think vibes play a part in the world,
(35:59):
but I think that can also just then be reflect
like if you have negative energy, maybe your superstitions will
I'm true, because you know, you're just you have bad vibes.
But that's a different thing. I feel like, I don't know.
Perhaps the most superstitious people out there are theater people.
There are so many superstitions. I had never even heard
(36:20):
of some of them, but there are a lot out there.
Like Gabby, you just mentioned that green was a cursed
color because Moliere was wearing that when he died. It
is cursed. But there was also another color that was cursed,
and that was blue, But it was for another reason
because it was like really expensive, like blue clothing was expensive.
(36:41):
Like I really don't understand why. They just didn't want
to show that they had put too much money into
it and like hold it to a higher esteem or something.
Then I don't know, it was silly, but like blue,
you can't wear blue. You can't wear a green. You can't. Really,
It's just like by the end of it, it's gonna
just be the whole rainbow. I don't know, You're just
gonna have to wear skin tones, just like Kanye's line
(37:03):
of clothing or something spiation came from. It's so And
then there's also the famous line of break a leg,
like instead of good luck, which actually comes from there's
like the like like the part of the curtain is
actually called a leg, and so like if the performance
is amazing, then like the curtain's going up and down
(37:24):
or whatever, and then you break it, so they're not
even talking about your actual leg. Who knew what you know?
Oh yeah yeah? So hey, why aren't you supposed to
say good luck? Though? So you're not supposed to say
good luck because that's bad luck. Yeah, I guess, so
break a leg, damn, because you want to break the curtain.
I wanted people to care about my legs. It's not
they don't care about your legs, wow, Or they do
(37:47):
care about your legs because they're not talking about your
actual leg anyway. Um, So all of those are kind
of silly, but there is The most interesting and famous
is to never say Macbeth because accidents and even death
will occur if you Speaketh the name. What if you're
in Macbeth, Well, that's especially bad because you got to
(38:08):
say it right. So the first performance was in the
early seventeenth century. The actor playing Lady Macbeth died randomly,
so Shakespeare himself was like, I guess I'll have to
do it, because at this point they, I guess didn't
think about having an understudy. Then there was another actor
who was stabbed in one of the fight scenes because
they used a real dagger rather than a prop. So
(38:29):
they just did like real fighting and they acted out
the whole thing as if it were real. But it's
actually not just the actors that have been cursed. There
was also these riots from the audience over there was
like a rivalry between two actors, and so all these
people were like pissed at like who was casted or whatever,
and so they come in riot. Twenty two people died
(38:49):
and over one hundred people were injured. Theater kids, the
other kids, they were intense or are intense. They're still, yes,
they do. There's also a stage manager for the play
in nineteen thirty seven died in a rehearsal, and then
also a director and actor for Macbeth died in a
(39:10):
car accident. And so some people say, like, that's that's
a lot. That's a lot of accidents, that's a lot
of deaths, and so some say that it's actually cursed
because Shakespeare put in real spells into the play with
a dialogue with the Three Witches, and so they're like
they like nobody. The superstition is so deep, it's like Voldemart.
(39:32):
They won't even refer to scary. That's scary, Like that's
like the words they do. They refer to it as
the Bards play or the Scottish play. Can you imagine
your work being so powerful that that is literally how
people treat it. That's iconic. Yeah, it's very iconic, but
it's also like terrifying. Link what like, what if you
(39:54):
accidentally say Macbeth though you have to leave the theata,
you have to spin around three times, spit over your
left shoulder, and then curse like expletive expletive, knock three
times and asked to be let back in the theater
and then no one will die. I love that you
(40:16):
said explative, explative as if we don't curse multiple times
on this podcast. But I like, I like expletive sometimes
I like to use that as my curse. I'll be like,
oh yeah, why not. So yeah, there's like a lot.
I mean, there's so many other um, so many other
things that that you can't do on in the theater.
(40:36):
You can't whistle as well, because they had sailors who
would like communicate whistling, and then if you whistle, then
you accidentally like signal them to like do something and
then mess it all up and then something would you know,
drop a joist. I don't know. The sailor like sailors
who would come to the shows. Yeah, like they worked,
(40:57):
like they'd be like, oh, I'm not I'm not at
sea right now because of the lightning. I'm just kidding.
I don't know. And the gators and negators, and so
they would work at the theater behind backstage, and they
would communicate by whistling to each other. And so if
you whistle, then that could be like a miss signal
and have another accident. That's fascinating. Did you know that
(41:21):
in the like I think nineteenth century actors were buried
with a steak in their heart because they thought that
like their performances were so good that maybe they would
come back to life or something like that, or they're
just playing possum exactly, like they were literally scared, so
they would bury them like very violently. That's I don't
(41:43):
think well we can that's that's for another day. But
but yeah, so all kinds of superstitions and the the alta.
I feel like that's a lot of stuff to back
up the Macbeth thing, Like I'm not gonna I mean,
I know I've said it, so maybe I have to
leave spin around, spit over my shoulder. Can you just
(42:06):
not say it? Because like Shakespeare's also like all the
world's a stage, so like if you say it, I
need to go spit. I sidentally have said it now,
so I think, and this is at all the world's
a stage, Nika, Okay, what's many players or whatever? Players
and haters? Yeah, well anyway, so this, you know, this
(42:30):
has just been a great episode. I apologize for all
of my very very terrible jokes that I have made
throughout Are you kidding me? They were incredible to thank
you so much. You have usurped me and I was
just looking. I'm now going I'm going to quit my
comedy now because I could never hold a torch to you,
(42:52):
but I would be falling Moliere by torchlight. You can
today that he died. You can borrow my jokes if
you want, And okay, I'm going to put him in there.
I'm fine with that. And my skit, my stand up skit,
do it. I'll sign the contract sober great. Thank you
all right, Thank you everyone for listening until next week.
Bye Gal. Cadaver Gals is a production of School of
(43:28):
Humans and iHeartRadio. It is hosted, produced, mixed, researched, et
cetera by Gabby Watts Nico Dwarka in Taylor Church. You
can follow us on Instagram and Twitter at Cadaver Gals.
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