October 6, 2021 • 51 mins
Ragnar Lothbrok is a totally real viking who totally had real magical pants. And a harrowing true crime story leads to Candyman.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
School of Humans. Hello, welcome to another episode of Cadaver Gals,
where we talk about the ways people have died throughout
history to cope with our own mortality. Now, I'm your
host Nika, along with Gabby Hello Yeah, and Taylor. Hi, cuties.
(00:29):
So on today's show, we're going to be covering why
mirrors can be dangerous and some hot Viking content which
we love. These content warnings include snakes and pillaging and
gunshots and robbery and mental illness que alligator musical. Gabby, I,
(01:05):
I heard from my goddess friend Freya that you have
a Viking story to tell. Wow, that's crazy that you're
talking about Freya because we might talk about her later. Yeah,
what a winkydink. Wow, what a coincident. It's as if
we've talked before. Um. Yeah, well I was mostly I
got Neil Gaiman wrote a Norse mythology book, and so
(01:29):
to distract myself from the pain of existence, I was like,
let's learn about Norse mythology. So that's how I got
here today with this story. Which, Yeah, sure, the dude
that I'm going to talk about might not be a
real dude, but why not. You know, stories can tell
us something fun too. This is not the most fact
(01:49):
based podcast, so it's okay, yeah we're not. We don't.
We don't dwell on the facts, you know, for producers,
we're Hollywood about it, um, So this is about well
Also a lot of people know this dude probably his
name was. His name was quote unquote Ragnar Lothbrook, and
he was the star of the show. Vikings too are
(02:12):
the main characters. So I haven't seen the show, but
you know, when you google him is the first thing
that comes up. And apparently that show is pretty good,
so maybe I'll watch it for some more fun escapism
into like horrific violence and Scandinavia. So I think everyone
in that show is hot, so good quality content on
(02:32):
my end, I reckon Well, I feel like, yeah, since
we like have talked about Vikings before, Like, I think
they're supposed to be hot default because they really cared
about their appearance. You know, they like you know, would
do their hair and all that shit. They do their hair.
They had no teeth too. You mentioned the weird teeth,
Oh yeah, weird teeth and cool hair. Yeah, well, they
just like grew their hair. They didn't cut their hair
(02:54):
right and they had quite the accessories. Accessories. Yeah, they
knew how to do an accessory to murder. Nope, and
well they all so did murders and pillaging and raping
and all sorts of good things like that. You know.
Great anyway, Okay, so this is we're going back to
the eight hundreds a good time. You know, this is
(03:16):
an eight eight fourteen ish because what happened there is
King Charlemagne died and he was the king of the
Franks and then the king of the larger empire posts
the Franks. Anyway, he controlled a lot of continental Europe
at the time, but then he died, which then created
like this power vacuum. So then all of these other
(03:37):
people became kings in like smaller areas. So then they
weren't kind of as strong because they didn't have that
centralized power and coordination. You know, I'm not trying to
be like pro empire though, I want to be clear
about that. But right you're being very grimes about it.
Super cool. Yeah, yeah, we're making a lesbian space colony
or whatever the fuck she said recently. So Charlemagne he died,
(04:02):
rip and then that that's when it kind of the
age of the Viking became super agy like they were
doing stuff before. But then the Vikings really had a
lot of power because they could go into these like
smaller continental europe kingdoms and just like you know, pillars
the fuck out of them, and it was like easier
for them. So yeah, they're coming. They're like, we're coming
(04:24):
for your wives and your jewels and your money, and
our hair is better than yours, you know. So one
of the mythic figures of this time was Ragnar Lothbrook
and as I was saying, yeah, maybe he's not a
real person, but there are some people. He must have
been inspired by someone even yea, so okay, go ahead, Okay,
(04:45):
So there are some people that they're like, there could
be this dude might be a real person, or this
dude he might just be like an amalgamation of a
bunch of different people. And then just like some fun exaggeration, okay,
because like in the stories he was allegedly the son
of a Swedish king, and then he would also say
that he was Ragnar would say that he was a
direc descendant of Odin, who is the all father in mythology,
(05:09):
like the big guy on top. Also, Anthony Hopkins mmmm.
See that's where it gets a little a little sticky,
you know. I mean, also, you know was Odin? You
know was Odin? I mean Odin's badasses. Fuck. But the
thing is he's Odin's like such a narcissist as to
what he did, like to become a god. Was he
like sacrificed himself to himself, which seems like cheating, right,
(05:32):
a male god being a narcissist. That's crazy, I know.
So Ragner was obviously a bit full of himself, but
I guess that's what it takes to become an epic
c keying, right, Like if you're trying to be a
king of the sea, sometimes you gotta have that like
self confidence, you know. Yeah, I've never met Jason Momoa,
but him being Aquaman like makes a lot of sense
(05:53):
because I feel like his vibe is like, I don't
even know if it's cocky, but he's very confident, like
you can tell. So I don't know, but I've never
met him, so maybe he's actually just super chill down
or maybe Jason Momoa please tell us, Yeah, let us know.
Addison has us in the comments. Put us on your story, dude. Okay,
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but with rag narsty one of obviously, you know he
was a great warrior, all of that jazz, but one
of his best defenses wasn't just powerful weapons, but in fact,
his amazing pants. Okay, I thought you were gonna say, like,
amazing penis. I was gonna be like, wells, I bet
he had a good one. But it's his pants, Taylor,
(06:38):
we can say something. No, I want to know about
these pants though. Okay, So he had made these pants
from some cow hide, and then according to legend not reality,
these were magical pants. Whoa my sisterhood I recently watched
that for the first time. Was incredible, but basically, yeah,
his magical pants, Like no one could kill him when
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he was wearing his magical pants, and so when he
was wearing these pants, he was able to kill this
giant serpent. Okay. So also maybe not true. Okay, so
when you said this is possibly not true, I think
you should have just said this is actually just like mythology. God,
He's like I made up a story today, Yeah I did. Okay,
(07:24):
but there's like some historical people who yeah they weren't
fighting giant serpents, but they maybe had pants they made themselves. Okay,
they're very crafty back then doing pants before that is correct. Anyway,
back to his magical pants, because the good thing about
his magical pants, o was he defeated the serpent and
that's what that's how he won his second wife. Okay,
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and I don't I don't know what he had to
do to meet the rest of them, but you know,
sometimes love is there and you got to kill a
serpent and your magical pants. Okay, he's a real person. Okay.
But also according to legend and maybe from a combination
of these other historical figures, he did a lot of
rating in sort of like the France region. And then
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one time he tried to raid what was then Paris,
which was under the haughty King Charles the Bald Okay,
sexy as hell, Jeff Bezos vibes, and Charles didn't have
magic pants, okay, so he was he could die, he
could have. I mean, these all these people are dead,
(08:30):
are not real, um, But Charles the Bald was a
real dude. Um. And then Ragner or whoever the historical
whatever combination of people he was. You know, they raided Paris.
They weren't able to get it because it's it's on
a little island. But then he did, you know, raid
everything around there. So then Charles the Bald was like, hey, bro,
stop raiding. We'll just like give you a bunch of
(08:50):
money to go away. And he's like, okay, chill um.
And then after he did that, he became a pirate
um and he just spent years raiding the Irish Sea.
And then this dude, apparently he raided north Umbria, which
is in the UK what is now the UK now England.
And yeah, this next part isn't real, probably not real,
(09:10):
because Dragnar then at this point, you know, while he
was doing all this raiding and fucking up shit, he
also slayed a dragon, you know, a real Maybe it
was just a big lizard. I don't know. They might
have had big lizards back then, probably Okay, yeah, a big,
big flying lizards. Okay. So this is going on through
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the ninth century according to legend. But then he dies. Wow.
But but his death is epic as hell. Okay, so
we're getting to it. We're getting to his this real
fake man's death. Okay. So the coolest legend about his
death was that in eight sixty four he ship wrecked
off the coast of Northumbria. As I said before, that
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was one of the places he had raided and he
just like raided the fuck out of it. So you
can imagine that the king wasn't too happy about that.
He was a Christian king named King Ella Ella Ella,
my King Ella. Okay, anyway, so Rihanna was there too, Okay, oh, anyway,
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so King Ella was like, they had Ragner and they're like, okay,
how should we kill this motherfucker because he fucked our
shit up real bad. And they're like, well, obviously, the
best thing we should do is to throw him in
a pit of venomous snakes. Okay. That's why if you're
if you're the king, you got to make sure you
have a pit of snakes handy at all times in
case your enemies get shipwrecked off your coast. Okay, hot
(10:39):
tip for kings. But the problem was at Ragner, he
was wearing his magical pants, so the snakes couldn't get
at him. So they had the king had to do
a redo and get him out of the pit filled
with snakes. He takes off his magical pants. He's like okay,
action takes two, and then they throw him back into
the pit of snakes without his pants on. Okay, oh,
oh my gosh, obviously, you know you just have to
(11:02):
make sure people aren't wearing their magical pants. Did he die? Okay, well,
the legend has it. He's still is raining, still here.
He and Rihanna are collaborating on a song upcoming anyway,
um Piana, where's the album? But like Viking death scenes
like within like uh mythology, and also like the historic
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texts of the Vikings that they always make these like
really epic death scenes. So of course Ragner was going
to get some really witty remarks in. And so whilst
Ragner is being bitten by snakes when he's not in
his magical pants anymore, he says to King Ella, the
piggies would grunt if they knew how the old boar died.
(11:44):
What a classic line. Okay, okay, what does that mean?
But there's this history named Tom Shippy, and he does
a lot of his like Norse history and Viking history.
And based on the text that this story about Ragners
and the word that he says for grunt actually sounds
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like a real grunt. So he might have said this guy,
this historian saying that maybe what he was saying was
much more dismissive and like threatening. He was saying, the
piggies would oink oink if they knew the Old Boar died.
So literally, he's like Ragner's like making pig sounds at
this king, which is like pretty like that's pretty bad
(12:28):
ass while you're being attacked by snakes, right old, Yeah,
I love dying with threats. I just need to think
of if I ever got thrown into a pit of snakes,
I need to make sure I have some good threats,
some good witty remarks, some good roasts. What animal would
you emulate if you were thrown into a pit of snakes?
I don't know. I'd probably just talk like gallum or something. Um.
(12:51):
Yeah that checks out. Actually, maybe an elephant sound that
would be fun, like the old you know, like that
I did my arm like an elephant. Wow. Okay, okay, yeah,
no that makes sense. Think you got me anyway. So
he's like basically with this quote, he's being like, hey,
my sons are gonna hear about this. His sons are
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the piggies and he's the old Boar, and when they do,
you're gonna get messed up. And he's just like threatening
King Ellen all these people while he's pantless in a
pit of snakes while making pigs sounds, which I think
is pretty iconic. No, that is iconic, I agree. Also,
like stresses me up because he was probably naked and
snakes biting genitals. Well, his snake was out with the snakes.
(13:36):
You know, he had a venomous wiener. Anyway, I don't know,
it's it could be we can rewrite this story. It's fine, um, okay,
But what he meant by this is he didn't he
didn't have like okay, he didn't necessarily mean his like
real sons, but like he had his boys. You know,
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he had his Viking boys who were his sons, and
they were called Ragner's sons. And these people might have
actually been real people, Okay. And the thing is Ragner's
death is it might have been according to some people,
it could have been kind of like a motivator something
that people made up this story to them motivate a
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bunch of Vikings to go to north Umbria to go
like kill King Ella, which didn't happened. Okay, that could
be fake too, because they're like this was called the
Great Army of the Heathens and it was like this
Viking army that that did happen where they did attack
north Umbria, Okay, and to get retaliation for their daddy
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slash Ragner. The Ragner sons. But the Ragner's sons they're
pretty fun. You had either the boneless Um, I guess
he was just a puddle. I don't know. You had
born Ironside Ubba or Uba Houghton, and Sigurd snake in
the eye. He was obviously his mom was a sorceress,
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a real sorceress. Okay, So those are his sons, his
quote unquote sons. And then like apparently what often when
he heard the news of his daddy's daddy Ragner's death,
he was playing chess and he was so mad about
hearing about the death that he gripped a trust piece
so hard that his nails bled. And what does that
tell me about Vikings? They have weird hands. Okay, Like,
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how do you how do your nails bleed? I don't know. Yeah,
I thought you were going to say, like the chess
piece polarized, but you were like his nails bled, No,
his nails bled. Okay. Anyway, so this wasn't eight sixty five.
There was the Great Heathen Army did go to King
Ella and they killed him. But I'm just like King Ella,
you should have worn the magical cow pants, like he
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took the magical cow pants off of Ragner. I'm like, bitch,
why did you wear the magical pants? Well maybe they
were only magical for him. Yeah, for for Wragner, that
makes sense. That's a good point. Yeah, your own pants,
you are the magic that you give to the pants. Wow,
we could say that that is a word for someone
that something. Yeah, you gotta infuse your own pants with
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your own magic. So the thing though, is if Ragner,
whether or not he was a real dude or based
off of all these other dudes, he did technically die
in like a warrior battle type thing, which means which
is like, as a Viking, that's like how you want
to die, because based on their mythology, they're like, yeah,
we want to go to Valhalla and just like rock
the fuck out with Odin and just like hunt and
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eat food and have great feast all the goddamn time
and probably still be shredded. You know. So Ragner he
died in the snake in the Pits Snakes Snake Pits
Pit of snakes, and maybe parts of that was true,
but definitely the pants magical pants, definitely. Anyway, what amazes
me is that Ragnar possibly was a mythical person, but
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king Ella was not. And because quote unquote King Alla
killed Daddy Ragnar, king Ella was actually truly attacked and killed. Yeah,
you know, I would just say that the Vikings at
this time, and yeah, a lot of these stories about
Ragner were written hundreds of years after he would have existed,
which is the same shit that happens with the Bible
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and shit. So like, what, like we can learn some
truth from this, you know, what is the truth that
we're learning? Like die victoriously in a pit of snakes?
I guess that is the truth. Thank you so much,
Gabby for that illuminating, truthful, hard hitting journalism that you
just gave us. When we come back, more Viking content
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and my sonorous voice. Hi, welcome back. Okay, we had
a conversation about Ragnar and sadly because this is Gabby's idea.
By the way, Gabby was like, you need to do
a story about goddesses, And y'all know I love goddesses already,
(17:52):
but I didn't know that Gabby's story was going to
be mostly fiction, or else I would not have done
a fiction story. But we're we're here now, so hey,
it's rooted in some elements of truth. Nika, Yeah, we
do we really ever follow rules on this podcast. We don't.
We're so crazy. It's important that you're talking about this
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goddess though, because like, we just need to know that Ragner.
You know he's in the Holland shin. We need to
know what he's up to after his victorious death. That
is fair. Well, I am going to talk about a strong,
powerful woman, a girl boss if you will. We love
girl bosses on this podcast. And her name, her name
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is Freya, and she is hot, and she has cats
who pull her chariot, and she's a Nordic goddess, so
like she has cats that pull her chats but well,
Lynxes possibly, Oh yes, that's cool, which is more than
enough of a description for me to get excited about someone.
So here we go. I think that's what I literally
wrote to you. She's hot and had a cat That
(18:57):
is exactly wrote to me, and I said, say no more,
say no more. Okay, it is known like own fact
that I am attracted to animated characters and seeing pictures
of Freya. I spent too much time researching this, so
here we're gonna be okay, Nika, I'm a little sweaty
and hot, but I also thinks because I turned the
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A C off for better better recordings. So anyway, Freya
is a goddess of blessings and fertility and love, death, war, sex,
and magic. Very multi talented, a lot of things multifaceted.
Girl bosses are typically multifaceted. Her parents are the God
of the Sea and the Goddess of the Earth. She
is like a big deal in Nordic religion, in Nordic mythology,
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and her name literally means lady, so you know, wow, Yeah,
what's up? So she has super cool attributes, m Like,
she is a shape shifter, which is very cool, and
she has this cloak of falcon feathers that enables her
(20:02):
to fly. And she also owns this like very powerful
necklace called the Breezing Gamin Yeah, which was crafted by
dwarves and it made the wearer irresistible. And she's kind
of like people have compared her to the goddess isis
from Egypt or like Aphrodite, if we're talking like Greek
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mythology or whatever, so that's kind of her vibe. In
Nordic mythology, she's said to be like be very beautiful
and all of that sort of stuff, but also very powerful.
Oh there was also the necklace. Apparently, the story goes
that she was walking through the woods one day and
she saw these dwarves like they hadn't even finished carving
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out the necklace, but they were like making the necklace.
She was like, I need to have that necklace, Like
how much money do you want for the necklace? And
they're like, that necklace is not for sale. She was like,
I would do anything. She was so into the necklace,
and the dwarves were like, okay, well we get to
be married to you. It was four dwarves for four nights,
so basically each night was a different dwarf that she
(21:07):
was quote unquote married too and therefore had sex with,
and so she was like yes, of course. And the
god Loki, who was like the troublemaker god in Nordic
mythology who always seems to be around, saw this happen
and was like, oh, I'm gonna go tell her husband.
So he went and he did that. Her husband, I
think is Odin, So like that's bad. No, Oden's not
(21:30):
her husband, Frega is his wife. Na actually but no, no,
how did they get married after these real people? No,
Frega and Freya actually, according to historians, could be the
same person because it said that Freya was married to Odin,
but then also Frigga was married to Odin, and Freya
only means lady, and Frigga is an actual name, so
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a lot of historians say that, actually Freya is Frega,
but that is like some historians say that, other historians
don't say that, Like it's highly religious scholars, yes, religious
scholars to people who practice witchcraft, like people who say no,
they're totally different deities. And I'm like, okay, I'm just
(22:12):
going by, like when the Internet is telling me anyway,
he got I hope we don't get written up by
any Norse mythologist. Me too. Anyway, he got mad and
she did it and kept the necklace, but he like
got really mad and like left for a long time.
And then it said that she was so heartbroken by
(22:32):
what happened because she cheated on him with four dwarves
that she spent like a long time. Basically, looking for
her husband and crying golden tears. So golden tears. Yeah,
so that's a phrases story right there for you. I
think we're learning good lessons from that. Okay, like what
we listen? Well, I was just a very specific lesson
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that you know, don't cheat on your husband with four
dwarves just because you want a necklace? Right right? Okay?
This what was this neck was? Like what was so
great about it? It was just amazing, Like she thought
it was so beautiful and it made the wear irresistible.
So that was but she didn't know about the magical
properties until she put it on, and that's why she's
(23:18):
also known as a very irresistible, beautiful blow. I think
it just like gave her confidence and she's like, oh
I am irresistible yet again the confidence once inside you
all along. Yeah, you don't need magic pants, you don't
need a fancy necklace. You'll need to believe in yourself. Wow,
she or had like a good personality, you know that
(23:39):
is true? Yes, anyway, back to the necklace, because this
was very interesting. So women who practiced magic this is
real during the Viking Age were called Volva's. It's ychonic.
I know and like Volva, and many times Freya was
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the main goddess they worshiped since Freya is also a
Volva sorceress magician, which which whatever they were called Volva's
and one was actually found buried with a lot of
riches with her wand which is what they used to
practice magic and rituals. And she was also found with
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a silver pendant of a woman with a necklace around
her that many archaeologists interpreted as Freya's necklace, which I
think is really cool. So she had like little statues
of Freya statues with her necklace. It was very well known,
like she's always almost always in paintings and stuff she
has the necklace, which I thought was really cool. Also,
it was just really cool that Volva's had such high
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standing in like Nordic hierarchy because she this one was
buried with a lot of money and treasure and all
of that sort of stuff. And I just think that's badass.
Volva's in high standing. I mean, that's how it should
be now, you know. Anyway, So sadly, the church did
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not like Frareya very much and kind of put out
a lot of bad on her that she was like
very I don't want to say saucy is not the word,
but like slutty. They basically called the slushed her. They
called her a slut oude, yeah, because they were trying
to get Pagans to convert. But this kind of actually
ended up working out for her because she was constantly
(25:22):
condemned by the church and therefore constantly remembered not only
by the church, by by people like peasants or whatever.
And she's actually one of the most widely worshiped pagan deities,
especially in the Scandinavia area. So people who practice witchcraft
will typically look to Freea for romantic help, for protection
and situations of domestic abuse, for fertility problems, and just whenever,
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especially female witches need strength or encouragement, that's who they
usually go to. And it's also said that the two
cats who pull her chariot became witches after serving her
for seven years, and then they were able to shape
shift into black cats to hide their identities, which as
a black cat owner I found adorable. I was reading
all of these like p in websites and they were
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saying that the one way of like showing honor to
Freya is by being nice to cats by beekeeping because
she loves honey, and then by celebrating Friday the thirteenth
as Freya's Day, because that is actually where the word
Friday comes from, which is pretty cool. Yeah, that's fun.
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I love my Catt do. I don't think he's a
witch though you don't think so it's too lazy. Yeah,
he's literally right here. Oh oh my gosh, Jimmy is
passed out on Gabby's lap. That's adorable anyway. So yeah,
and I know Taylor, you love bees, so that's kind
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of your connection with Freya, and I just think that's
really sweet. I think we can all find ways to
tap into that strong energy today. Okay, great, Yeah, that's great. Nika.
Thanks for grounding us back in reality by the end
of that, because I obviously didn't start strong and reality.
You're welcome. Well, I think we're about to get extremely
grounded in reality because Taylor has a terrifying tale that
(27:12):
has nothing to do with fantasy and has everything to
do with people being violent. So yeah, it's probably the
worst kind of reality. Yeah, it's a really really this
is a really sad story. So oh goody yep, So
here you go. So I'm going to tell you about
Ruthie May McCoy. She lived in the projects of Chicago
(27:35):
in a building called the Abbott Apartments. This complex was
like fifteen stories high, had drug dealers, gang members, other
people who couldn't you know, people who couldn't afford to
live elsewhere. It was just a bad part of town, etc. Etc.
So Ruthie May was known to be a bit of
a grout, which I understand that, but like she would
(27:59):
you be walking down the street and just yell at people,
cuss them out. As so passed by, she would like
have a stick in her hand and like wave it
at people, etc. She was just, you know, she was grumpy,
but she was also very paranoid. She also kind of
you know, in her early twenties, she had developed some
mental disorders. But by nineteen eighty seven, when she was
(28:21):
fifty two, she decided enough was enough and she was
gonna get her life together. So she was getting her ged,
She got a lot of her mental issues under control.
She was starting to make a little extra money, so
she was able to get clothes and so she would
get a job. But still she was still living in
the Abbot Apartments. She still didn't make enough money to
(28:43):
get out of there. So and she did have one
friend in the building who she would visit on her
way out every day. But m and everybody was like, Okay,
she's like getting less grumpy, like she's getting her life together.
Everybody was really proud of her. So these apartments, they
were the elevators never worked, super run down, like you
never really knew who was actually living there and who
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was just like waters and like since it was so big,
this was like big apartments like that really are good
for crime and whatnot because you don't know who your
neighbors are and so you can't really keep track of things.
So anytime there was like an empty apartment, they would
just they would literally have to board it up, which
didn't work, but that was they had to go that far.
(29:28):
So cops were often being called there. There was all
kinds of crime and what not going on. Then on
April twenty second, nineteen eighty seven, Ruthie May called police
around eight forty five pm and she was frantic and
she said, quote, they throwed the cabinet down. I'm in
the projects on the other side. They can reach my bathroom.
(29:50):
They want to come through the bathroom. What so that's
so cryptic, and the cops were like, Okay, what's happening, Like,
what's going on? They were like, we'll send somebody out there.
But they determined that it was a disturbance with a neighbor,
and so they were like, not a super big rush.
They were just like they're having an argument or something,
(30:12):
but not a big deal, right, But like nobody cops
don't really show up. So then they get a call
a little bit later from two separate neighbors claiming that
they have heard screaming and gunshots. So police are like, okay,
I guess we'll go. So it takes them, I guess
we'll go. Okay, all right, Yeah, So they arrive in
like it takes them like ten minutes to get there,
(30:34):
knock on Ruthie May's door. There's no answer, and so
they call her. They hear the phone ring, but again
no answer. So the police are like, what do we do.
I guess we'll call the janitor and see if they
have a key or whatever. Well, the janitor couldn't find
a key that worked. They were like kind of accusing
her of being because she was so paranoid. They're like,
she's just really paranoid. She changed the locks and she's
(30:56):
not supposed to do that. The cops are like, okay,
well it's probably fine, so we'll just leave. So the
next evening, Ruthie May's neighbor, who remember Ruthie would visit
before leaving, was concerned because she hadn't. She didn't see
Ruthie May that day and that was odd because she
came by every day. So she calls the cops and
it's like, hey, can you do a wellness check? I'm
(31:18):
worried about her. Cops show up again, knock, knock, knock,
no answer, and they're like, oh, what will we do?
They're like, do we have a good enough reason to
knock the door down? And then they're like, nah, we don't.
And the building like the building people were like, we
don't want to have to deal with that anyway. So
the cops are like, okay, fine, well leave. So the
(31:39):
cops leave and come back the next day. They come
with somebody to like drill the lock so that they
can get in, and that is when they find Ruthie
May with four gunshot wounds laying on her bed. Oh
my god. So what They're like, Oh, what happened? We
whoop sees. So apparently what Ruthie May was trying to
(32:03):
say was that somebody was climbing through her medicine cabinet
and her bathroom and that's exactly what that is. Exactly
what happened. The intruder or intruder's plural climbed in through
the bathroom mirror what pow. So the way that the
building was constructed, there are like like the two neighboring
apartments medicine cabinets were like back to back, but there
(32:26):
was nothing in between the medicine cabinets besides like plumbing.
And the reason that they left it there is they're like, oh,
it'll just be easier to get to the plumbing if
there's an issue. So there was just basically a hole
between the two. And so what they would what people
would do is they would remove the medicine cabinets from
from the bathroom wall and then they could like climb
(32:48):
through the plumbing. I mean it was like a small hole,
but like if you were small enough, like you could
fit through the mirror. So that's exactly what happened. These
guys like went through and what they kind of assumed
happened was they had noticed that she was thriving. Ruthie
May was thriving and like potentially made a little bit
more money. Like they specifically they were like like everybody
(33:12):
was talking about it, like, oh, she's doing really well.
She must have money now, Like she was even getting
like conned by preachers air quote preachers and stuff by
being like, oh, I see that, like you're making money now,
like in order to be saved and all of this stuff,
like you just you can just write me a check
or whatever, and she would do it. She was like
(33:34):
she had a lot of faith and she like believed
in people at this point anyway, So they assumed that
they came in to like assuming that she had money
or whatever. This is so sad, I know. So so
obviously they murdered her. And they mentioned that they stole
at least three items, one of which was a phone.
(33:55):
Was the phone, so if you remember that first night,
the cops called and they heard the phone ring, so
like it's possible that they were still in there or
like gosh that or they came back to and like
stole the items later, which is totally possible as well.
So these two kids, Ted Turner, not Atlanti's Ted, but
(34:17):
he was eighteen, and John Honduras, who was twenty one,
were apparently seen taking her TV and rocking chair like
after she died. But like there was really there was
just a lack of evidence and so the charges were dropped,
so we don't really know if it actually was them
or anything. So so anyway, so that is like the
(34:40):
super sad story of Ruthie May. Now, so there's a
couple of things about this case that's like really interesting. Obviously,
like people climbing in through mirrors is like super sketchy
and weird and terrifying. But this case was appears to
be what the movie candy Man was based off of,
(35:01):
which was filmed a few years later or released a
few years later. They were both took place in the
Chicago Projects. Very similar situation came in through the bathroom
mirror and even the last name McCoy and it was
like a double name and McCoy, So that's like it's
(35:21):
it's kind of like I believe that some of the
producers actually reached out to people who worked in the
building and were like, hey, like do you want to
consult on this, and they were like, well, I'll read
the script, but you know, if I find that it's
like in poor taste or whatever, then I won't. So yeah,
a lot of people say, and it is highly likely
that candy Man was based off of this case. Wow,
(35:44):
and they never caught the killer essentially, No, I mean
they arrested those two boys, but then two years later
the charges were dropped because of a lack of evidence. Now,
Ruthie May had did have a daughter, and the daughter
sued the apartment complex for for like not helping in them.
I don't I can't remember exactly why it was, but
(36:06):
like they sued the apartment complex for her murder, and
then they made a scary movie. Oh my gosh. But
there's also I don't know if you've seen this. I
came across this one TikTok. There was this girl, I
think she was in New York who like always felt
a draft in her bathroom and she couldn't figure out
what it was coming from. So she like investigates and
(36:26):
finds that it's coming from her mirror. So she hate that.
So she's like, I'm gonna figure this out. So if
she takes the mirror off, same like medicine cabinet type situation,
takes the mirror off, and there's like a whole other
apartment back there, so like this is empty, right, yeah,
this is like abandoned. That makes you want to throw up.
I can't. And so she's like how sketchy is that?
(36:49):
And also secondly, she lives in New York. She's like,
this is a whole this is prime real estate here,
Like what the heck? But and it's just wait, did
anyone figure out why that apartment was there? I'm gonna
do some research if I don't know. I haven't done
research on that, but like that is That's one of
my biggest fears, is like you taking their medicine cabinet
(37:09):
off of your house and then they're being a whole
nother reality behind it. Well yeah, yeah, because you don't know,
Like that just freaks me out. Or the idea of
someone living in your house and you're not even knowing
that they live in your house, like if because they're
the attic or something like that, like that terrifies me.
That terrifies so scary. I think about that all the
time that somebody's I'm like my crawl spaced on. Oh
(37:31):
my god, Taylor. I worry about that more than I
probably should Yeah, it's it's me, got me my new
apartment that you haven't seen. It's actually Taylor's crawl space.
This is just a backdrop back here. That's a really
good backdrop. Thank you. Yeah, it looks really nice. I'm
(37:52):
glad you at least it's like a nice nice job
on it. Thank you. Pretty good lighting too. Yeah. Wow, um, well,
thank you Taylor for reminding me of one of my
unreasonable fears. That is something I can and think about
tonight as I try to sleep. All right, Well, when
we come back, you know, more mirror trouble he he he,
(38:17):
welcome back. Wow. Well this episode has been a roller coaster,
it really has. It's been all over the place. Yeah yeah, yeah,
from very sobering truths to like volvas and you know,
magical pants and stuff which are not the same thing,
not the same thing. Okay, So Taylor sent me a
(38:38):
super fun link that led to hours in a wormhole
of knowledge and confusion that I feel super happy I
get to share with you all today. If I don't
explain it, well, I'm sorry. I'm not a physicist. I
literally don't have a college degree, so you can imagine
how researching this went. Okay, maybe you'll get an honorary degree. Now, Nika,
(39:00):
you wouldn't even have to go to college. You'll just
get a physics degree. I'll be nice Oa from like
Harve Hard. So we all know atoms like the small
little atom, like the like no atoms. Atoms, Yes, I've
heard of them, quite small, Okay, So it is for
(39:22):
people who might not be familiar. It is what basically
everything is made out of. I know they are made of.
Get ready for this, you guys, Protons, neutrons, and electrons. Okay.
I love the chaotic energy of an electron. Oh my gosh,
you are an electron. That's so cute. Oh wait, this
is a fun game, Gabby. Okay, So Nika is a proton.
(39:45):
Why the frick am I a proton? Gabby is a neutron? Hello,
I said, why am? I don't know? Is it because
I'm aggressivetron? Because I feel like neutrons is like neutral
and you kind of have like that neutral tone of voice.
Oh I thought it was always the evil one. And
then that's so I'd be the elect tron. No, Taylor
(40:06):
is the electron. I think Gabby's the neutron. Because Gabby
without anyone fizzles out and dies in fourteen minutes and
forty eight seconds, as we're about to find out. Okay, anyway,
that was a rost. Okay, No, I appreciate that. I like,
I will be thinking about myself for a while after
that comment. So sorry if I don't do any sweet
(40:27):
riffs minutes, so sorry. Okay. So yeah, you know we're
getting very basic. Okay, now that we have the cadaver
gals categorized. So when neutrons are by themselves, as I
just mentioned, they're floating around, not attached to protons or electrons,
they are very unstable and begin to decay a key
(40:50):
component can confirm. Honestly, me too, though me too. I'm
the one who's like, I've been in long term relationships
more than I probably should at just twenty four years
of age, which, by the way, I'm twenty four. Happy
birth to me, Happy birthday. I like how we're like
using atoms to like manifest our external traumas to the listeners.
(41:15):
I appreciate this. The physicists hate us because I'm sure
business are listening. If you are a physicist, please stop listening. No,
I was gonna say comment and just tell us how
dumb we are. Let's tell my therapist XT week. Yeah.
I've just been really feeling like a neutron recent They're
just like, ye honestly, um okay, Well, anyway, A key
(41:38):
component to atoms and all of this atoms what we
are made of is that um. All of protons, neutrons,
and electrons are the same. They react in the same ways.
This is important. This is like a law of physics. God,
I hope I don't fuck this off. Scared? Okay, yeah,
I don't know where you're going with this. I get
ready strap in. Are we going to Valhalla again? This
(42:02):
is this related to Norse mythology. We're going somewhere even weirder. Okay, okay,
yeah yeah. When scientists were doing an experiment to find
out how long does it take neutrons to decay, they
found a discrepancy. Oh god, oh sorry, I'm laughing that
we've we've said the gap is a neutron. God, that's
(42:25):
gonna fum sorry. Okay. It took a beam of neutrons
fourteen minutes and forty eight seconds to fully decay in
beam form, okay, beam not being formed? Okay, then, well
I'm always in being for guys, I'm trying to teach. Okay, no,
(42:46):
I know how my side, my middle school science professor,
doctor Truelove felt okay tbd. Not like her. Okay, oh
my god roasted not like her. She was really mean
to me the first time I ever, like my literally
second day of school in the US. I had never
seen a scantron before. I know what the fuck those
things were. And she gave me a scantron test and
(43:08):
I literally looked at this and I was like, what
am I supposed to do? And she likes said something
hellas enophobic, like low key. I don't remember exactly what
it was, but it was basically something like what you
don't have these where you come from? And I was like,
what the heck? Okay, Also, scantron's not something to be
proud of, you know, yeah, it's really not anyway, America
home of the scantrons. Okay, so listen, listen. So they
(43:33):
then put the same amount of neutrons, the same amount
in a lab bottle, and they did the exact same experiment,
but this time it took the neutrons fourteen minutes and
thirty eight seconds to fully decay. That is a ten
second time difference, which is a very big deal for physicists. Okay,
physicists are people who like point zero zero one seconds off.
(43:53):
Oh god, gotta run the test again, you know what
I mean? Yeah, yeah, me not okay. So they initially
blamed user error or faulty machinery understandably, but the experiment
has been done multiple times throughout the years and still
ten to nine second delay, which is weird. Now, this
is where mirrors come in. Anatoli Sarah Brov from the
(44:15):
Petersburg Nuclear Physics Institute, which by the way, needs to
update its website, said that the reason for the delay
in time is that sometimes ordinary neutrons instead of this,
cross into a mirror universe, where they become mirror neutrons,
which is why we don't see them anymore and they
are impossible to count. Wait, yeah, what Maybe that's why
(44:39):
their website is an updated because that's in the mirror universe.
I mean yeah, yeah. They're very busy. What the fuck
is a mirror? What does that mean? That seems saying no,
So they're no, no, no, no no, They're trying to figure
out what is this ten second difference? Where do those
neutrons go? That take away that ten second difference, and
(45:02):
this person said, they go into a mirror universe that
is just like ours, which is not It can be
a parallel universe. Yes, basically. Yeah, anyway, it's not that
crazy when you start researching it, but it's still kind
of a stretch. Like as I was reading this, I
was like, okay, I'm sorry, so so so the neutrons
(45:27):
that we cannot see. You immediately theorize that it is
because I snapped, by the way, listener, it is because
it goes into a mirror universe. Okay. So scientists have
actually taken this hypothesis seriously, and it could also explain
the strange phenomenon that is dark matter, which has been
observed not visually but rather by like gravitational polls that
(45:50):
cannot be explained unless we account for dark matter that
simply doesn't interact with the electromagnetic field, so we cannot
see it. We know it's there, but we can't see it.
So some scientists have said that maybe dark matter is
actually mirror matter living in a mirror universe but affecting
the gravitational pool of our universe. Mika, you definitely are
(46:12):
gonna you deserve an honorary degree from thank you. I
sound like I'm on adderall like I'm like, listen, guys,
but I so I actually thought that I thought everything
was a simulation. You said that. I never said a
simulation thing. Okay, I would love for this to be simulation.
Do you know how many times I played sims for
(46:33):
hours when I was younger. The idea of me being
a sim quite frankly turns me on. I wish. Oh anyway, okay, girl,
you are a sim Thank you sweating again? Okay, sou
To further this theory, if that is the case, and
dark matter is mirror matter living in a mirror universe,
(46:55):
then the mirror universe is very big because there is
way more dark matter in the universe than regular matter.
It has been observed there's like five times more dark
matter than regular matter, so must be. But if you
don't see dark matter, then how do you know because
of gravitational pulse. So like there was a diagram, well
a picture really of I think stars and planets and stuff,
(47:18):
and like they pointed with little arabs on the diagram
where the gravitational pool of dark matter was that kept
these planets away and stuff like that. That's the best
way I can describe it, but I can send you
a link. It made sense as I read it. As
I say that lauda might not make that much sense.
But dark matter is something that does exist that not
(47:39):
a lot of people know about. But that is confirmed.
Mirror matter not confirmed just yet. So there's people who
are also still trying to prove this, like doctor Leah Brossard.
She conducted an actual experiment to open a portal into
that mirror universe. And basically the experiment this was like
in twenty nineteen. She's a witch, yes, so basically she's
(48:03):
sending a beam of subatomic particles on a fifty foot
tunnel past a strong magnet and into an impenetrable wall. Impenetrable, Okay.
Her hypothesis is that, according to the current laws of physics,
no neutron should get past the barrier. Like it's just
it can't happen. It's impenetrable. Count exactly penetration. Anyway, if
(48:24):
the head count is off and some neutrons did pass
the impenetrable barrier, then they became mirror neutrons. And that's
evidence for the mirror universe. As best as I could
have understood its way. So they go through a medicine cabinet. Noah,
what okay, so I'm just thinking of the last story. No,
(48:44):
but that is my connection, mirror and mirror. See that's
my tangent. Oh, they should update Candy Man, and they
should make it about the missing neutrons. About the missing neutrons.
M Gabby is the missing neutron anyway. Um, So I
tried to find the results from this experiment because oh
my gosh, what if she did open a portal and
I was conducted in twenty nineteen. But I found nothing.
(49:07):
So because maybe listen, she's on Twitter and she's like
there regularly. So if you all want to ask her,
hit her up, be my guest. Let's figure this out together.
I love that this is the This took me way
deeper than I thought we were going to and I
love it. Oh, well, you're thank you. Yeah, I hope
(49:28):
it was a little bit understandable. I don't know, you're
the atomy, not the astrology, the astronomy person. I mean,
I just like to look at the sky. Yeah, but
you're also like, ooh, there's Mars. I don't know what
Mars looks like. Yeah, you do we talked about it. No,
but I did find out this week that my mars
is in Scorpio and so is my venus. Oh that's hot.
(49:50):
Yeah see astrology astronomy, big difference. But whatever, Well, this
was our episode. You know, we've got some funtasy, we've
got some science, we've got some mirror Universe situations going on.
So just a normal davergross episode, I would say, yeah, okay, yeah,
this one was pretty normal. Okay, well, thank you so
(50:11):
much for joining. Any last remarks, my fellow I was
gonna say, fellow communists. Sorry, I know you guys are communists.
Fell a fellows fell at my neutron. Hi, guys, I
didn't want you to figure find this it out this way,
but I am my mirror universe self. We switched. Okay.
(50:35):
Um oh my gosh, that reminds me of us. That
is a freaking scary movie. Okay, Well, you know, I
hope we never have to go through Mirror Universe people
again because again ever, because I just think I would
freak out and probably have a heart attack. Okay, well,
this is a great closing remark. Love you all so much,
and I kiss you all the forehead. Good night, Dagal.
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It is edited, produced, researched, et cetera by Taylor Church,
Gabby Watts, and Nica Art. You can follow us on
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you next week.
School of Humans. Hello, welcome to another episode of Cadaver Gals,
where we talk about the ways people have died throughout
history to cope with our own mortality. Now, I'm your
host Nika, along with Gabby Hello Yeah, and Taylor. Hi, cuties.
(00:29):
So on today's show, we're going to be covering why
mirrors can be dangerous and some hot Viking content which
we love. These content warnings include snakes and pillaging and
gunshots and robbery and mental illness que alligator musical. Gabby, I,
(01:05):
I heard from my goddess friend Freya that you have
a Viking story to tell. Wow, that's crazy that you're
talking about Freya because we might talk about her later. Yeah,
what a winkydink. Wow, what a coincident. It's as if
we've talked before. Um. Yeah, well I was mostly I
got Neil Gaiman wrote a Norse mythology book, and so
(01:29):
to distract myself from the pain of existence, I was like,
let's learn about Norse mythology. So that's how I got
here today with this story. Which, Yeah, sure, the dude
that I'm going to talk about might not be a
real dude, but why not. You know, stories can tell
us something fun too. This is not the most fact
(01:49):
based podcast, so it's okay, yeah we're not. We don't.
We don't dwell on the facts, you know, for producers,
we're Hollywood about it, um, So this is about well
Also a lot of people know this dude probably his
name was. His name was quote unquote Ragnar Lothbrook, and
he was the star of the show. Vikings too are
(02:12):
the main characters. So I haven't seen the show, but
you know, when you google him is the first thing
that comes up. And apparently that show is pretty good,
so maybe I'll watch it for some more fun escapism
into like horrific violence and Scandinavia. So I think everyone
in that show is hot, so good quality content on
(02:32):
my end, I reckon Well, I feel like, yeah, since
we like have talked about Vikings before, Like, I think
they're supposed to be hot default because they really cared
about their appearance. You know, they like you know, would
do their hair and all that shit. They do their hair.
They had no teeth too. You mentioned the weird teeth,
Oh yeah, weird teeth and cool hair. Yeah, well, they
just like grew their hair. They didn't cut their hair
(02:54):
right and they had quite the accessories. Accessories. Yeah, they
knew how to do an accessory to murder. Nope, and
well they all so did murders and pillaging and raping
and all sorts of good things like that. You know.
Great anyway, Okay, so this is we're going back to
the eight hundreds a good time. You know, this is
(03:16):
an eight eight fourteen ish because what happened there is
King Charlemagne died and he was the king of the
Franks and then the king of the larger empire posts
the Franks. Anyway, he controlled a lot of continental Europe
at the time, but then he died, which then created
like this power vacuum. So then all of these other
(03:37):
people became kings in like smaller areas. So then they
weren't kind of as strong because they didn't have that
centralized power and coordination. You know, I'm not trying to
be like pro empire though, I want to be clear
about that. But right you're being very grimes about it.
Super cool. Yeah, yeah, we're making a lesbian space colony
or whatever the fuck she said recently. So Charlemagne he died,
(04:02):
rip and then that that's when it kind of the
age of the Viking became super agy like they were
doing stuff before. But then the Vikings really had a
lot of power because they could go into these like
smaller continental europe kingdoms and just like you know, pillars
the fuck out of them, and it was like easier
for them. So yeah, they're coming. They're like, we're coming
(04:24):
for your wives and your jewels and your money, and
our hair is better than yours, you know. So one
of the mythic figures of this time was Ragnar Lothbrook
and as I was saying, yeah, maybe he's not a
real person, but there are some people. He must have
been inspired by someone even yea, so okay, go ahead, Okay,
(04:45):
So there are some people that they're like, there could
be this dude might be a real person, or this
dude he might just be like an amalgamation of a
bunch of different people. And then just like some fun exaggeration, okay,
because like in the stories he was allegedly the son
of a Swedish king, and then he would also say
that he was Ragnar would say that he was a
direc descendant of Odin, who is the all father in mythology,
(05:09):
like the big guy on top. Also, Anthony Hopkins mmmm.
See that's where it gets a little a little sticky,
you know. I mean, also, you know was Odin? You
know was Odin? I mean Odin's badasses. Fuck. But the
thing is he's Odin's like such a narcissist as to
what he did, like to become a god. Was he
like sacrificed himself to himself, which seems like cheating, right,
(05:32):
a male god being a narcissist. That's crazy, I know.
So Ragner was obviously a bit full of himself, but
I guess that's what it takes to become an epic
c keying, right, Like if you're trying to be a
king of the sea, sometimes you gotta have that like
self confidence, you know. Yeah, I've never met Jason Momoa,
but him being Aquaman like makes a lot of sense
(05:53):
because I feel like his vibe is like, I don't
even know if it's cocky, but he's very confident, like
you can tell. So I don't know, but I've never
met him, so maybe he's actually just super chill down
or maybe Jason Momoa please tell us, Yeah, let us know.
Addison has us in the comments. Put us on your story, dude. Okay,
(06:16):
but with rag narsty one of obviously, you know he
was a great warrior, all of that jazz, but one
of his best defenses wasn't just powerful weapons, but in fact,
his amazing pants. Okay, I thought you were gonna say, like,
amazing penis. I was gonna be like, wells, I bet
he had a good one. But it's his pants, Taylor,
(06:38):
we can say something. No, I want to know about
these pants though. Okay, So he had made these pants
from some cow hide, and then according to legend not reality,
these were magical pants. Whoa my sisterhood I recently watched
that for the first time. Was incredible, but basically, yeah,
his magical pants, Like no one could kill him when
(07:01):
he was wearing his magical pants, and so when he
was wearing these pants, he was able to kill this
giant serpent. Okay. So also maybe not true. Okay, so
when you said this is possibly not true, I think
you should have just said this is actually just like mythology. God,
He's like I made up a story today, Yeah I did. Okay,
(07:24):
but there's like some historical people who yeah they weren't
fighting giant serpents, but they maybe had pants they made themselves. Okay,
they're very crafty back then doing pants before that is correct. Anyway,
back to his magical pants, because the good thing about
his magical pants, o was he defeated the serpent and
that's what that's how he won his second wife. Okay,
(07:47):
and I don't I don't know what he had to
do to meet the rest of them, but you know,
sometimes love is there and you got to kill a
serpent and your magical pants. Okay, he's a real person. Okay.
But also according to legend and maybe from a combination
of these other historical figures, he did a lot of
rating in sort of like the France region. And then
(08:09):
one time he tried to raid what was then Paris,
which was under the haughty King Charles the Bald Okay,
sexy as hell, Jeff Bezos vibes, and Charles didn't have
magic pants, okay, so he was he could die, he
could have. I mean, these all these people are dead,
(08:30):
are not real, um, But Charles the Bald was a
real dude. Um. And then Ragner or whoever the historical
whatever combination of people he was. You know, they raided Paris.
They weren't able to get it because it's it's on
a little island. But then he did, you know, raid
everything around there. So then Charles the Bald was like, hey, bro,
stop raiding. We'll just like give you a bunch of
(08:50):
money to go away. And he's like, okay, chill um.
And then after he did that, he became a pirate
um and he just spent years raiding the Irish Sea.
And then this dude, apparently he raided north Umbria, which
is in the UK what is now the UK now England.
And yeah, this next part isn't real, probably not real,
(09:10):
because Dragnar then at this point, you know, while he
was doing all this raiding and fucking up shit, he
also slayed a dragon, you know, a real Maybe it
was just a big lizard. I don't know. They might
have had big lizards back then, probably Okay, yeah, a big,
big flying lizards. Okay. So this is going on through
(09:32):
the ninth century according to legend. But then he dies. Wow.
But but his death is epic as hell. Okay, so
we're getting to it. We're getting to his this real
fake man's death. Okay. So the coolest legend about his
death was that in eight sixty four he ship wrecked
off the coast of Northumbria. As I said before, that
(09:54):
was one of the places he had raided and he
just like raided the fuck out of it. So you
can imagine that the king wasn't too happy about that.
He was a Christian king named King Ella Ella Ella,
my King Ella. Okay, anyway, so Rihanna was there too, Okay, oh, anyway,
(10:16):
so King Ella was like, they had Ragner and they're like, okay,
how should we kill this motherfucker because he fucked our
shit up real bad. And they're like, well, obviously, the
best thing we should do is to throw him in
a pit of venomous snakes. Okay. That's why if you're
if you're the king, you got to make sure you
have a pit of snakes handy at all times in
case your enemies get shipwrecked off your coast. Okay, hot
(10:39):
tip for kings. But the problem was at Ragner, he
was wearing his magical pants, so the snakes couldn't get
at him. So they had the king had to do
a redo and get him out of the pit filled
with snakes. He takes off his magical pants. He's like okay,
action takes two, and then they throw him back into
the pit of snakes without his pants on. Okay, oh,
oh my gosh, obviously, you know you just have to
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make sure people aren't wearing their magical pants. Did he die? Okay, well,
the legend has it. He's still is raining, still here.
He and Rihanna are collaborating on a song upcoming anyway,
um Piana, where's the album? But like Viking death scenes
like within like uh mythology, and also like the historic
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texts of the Vikings that they always make these like
really epic death scenes. So of course Ragner was going
to get some really witty remarks in. And so whilst
Ragner is being bitten by snakes when he's not in
his magical pants anymore, he says to King Ella, the
piggies would grunt if they knew how the old boar died.
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What a classic line. Okay, okay, what does that mean?
But there's this history named Tom Shippy, and he does
a lot of his like Norse history and Viking history.
And based on the text that this story about Ragners
and the word that he says for grunt actually sounds
(12:07):
like a real grunt. So he might have said this guy,
this historian saying that maybe what he was saying was
much more dismissive and like threatening. He was saying, the
piggies would oink oink if they knew the Old Boar died.
So literally, he's like Ragner's like making pig sounds at
this king, which is like pretty like that's pretty bad
(12:28):
ass while you're being attacked by snakes, right old, Yeah,
I love dying with threats. I just need to think
of if I ever got thrown into a pit of snakes,
I need to make sure I have some good threats,
some good witty remarks, some good roasts. What animal would
you emulate if you were thrown into a pit of snakes?
I don't know. I'd probably just talk like gallum or something. Um.
(12:51):
Yeah that checks out. Actually, maybe an elephant sound that
would be fun, like the old you know, like that
I did my arm like an elephant. Wow. Okay, okay, yeah,
no that makes sense. Think you got me anyway. So
he's like basically with this quote, he's being like, hey,
my sons are gonna hear about this. His sons are
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the piggies and he's the old Boar, and when they do,
you're gonna get messed up. And he's just like threatening
King Ellen all these people while he's pantless in a
pit of snakes while making pigs sounds, which I think
is pretty iconic. No, that is iconic, I agree. Also,
like stresses me up because he was probably naked and
snakes biting genitals. Well, his snake was out with the snakes.
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You know, he had a venomous wiener. Anyway, I don't know,
it's it could be we can rewrite this story. It's fine, um, okay,
But what he meant by this is he didn't he
didn't have like okay, he didn't necessarily mean his like
real sons, but like he had his boys. You know,
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he had his Viking boys who were his sons, and
they were called Ragner's sons. And these people might have
actually been real people, Okay. And the thing is Ragner's
death is it might have been according to some people,
it could have been kind of like a motivator something
that people made up this story to them motivate a
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bunch of Vikings to go to north Umbria to go
like kill King Ella, which didn't happened. Okay, that could
be fake too, because they're like this was called the
Great Army of the Heathens and it was like this
Viking army that that did happen where they did attack
north Umbria, Okay, and to get retaliation for their daddy
(14:38):
slash Ragner. The Ragner sons. But the Ragner's sons they're
pretty fun. You had either the boneless Um, I guess
he was just a puddle. I don't know. You had
born Ironside Ubba or Uba Houghton, and Sigurd snake in
the eye. He was obviously his mom was a sorceress,
(14:58):
a real sorceress. Okay, So those are his sons, his
quote unquote sons. And then like apparently what often when
he heard the news of his daddy's daddy Ragner's death,
he was playing chess and he was so mad about
hearing about the death that he gripped a trust piece
so hard that his nails bled. And what does that
tell me about Vikings? They have weird hands. Okay, Like,
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how do you how do your nails bleed? I don't know. Yeah,
I thought you were going to say, like the chess
piece polarized, but you were like his nails bled, No,
his nails bled. Okay. Anyway, so this wasn't eight sixty five.
There was the Great Heathen Army did go to King
Ella and they killed him. But I'm just like King Ella,
you should have worn the magical cow pants, like he
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took the magical cow pants off of Ragner. I'm like, bitch,
why did you wear the magical pants? Well maybe they
were only magical for him. Yeah, for for Wragner, that
makes sense. That's a good point. Yeah, your own pants,
you are the magic that you give to the pants. Wow,
we could say that that is a word for someone
that something. Yeah, you gotta infuse your own pants with
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your own magic. So the thing though, is if Ragner,
whether or not he was a real dude or based
off of all these other dudes, he did technically die
in like a warrior battle type thing, which means which
is like, as a Viking, that's like how you want
to die, because based on their mythology, they're like, yeah,
we want to go to Valhalla and just like rock
the fuck out with Odin and just like hunt and
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eat food and have great feast all the goddamn time
and probably still be shredded. You know. So Ragner he
died in the snake in the Pits Snakes Snake Pits
Pit of snakes, and maybe parts of that was true,
but definitely the pants magical pants, definitely. Anyway, what amazes
me is that Ragnar possibly was a mythical person, but
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king Ella was not. And because quote unquote King Alla
killed Daddy Ragnar, king Ella was actually truly attacked and killed. Yeah,
you know, I would just say that the Vikings at
this time, and yeah, a lot of these stories about
Ragner were written hundreds of years after he would have existed,
which is the same shit that happens with the Bible
(17:09):
and shit. So like, what, like we can learn some
truth from this, you know, what is the truth that
we're learning? Like die victoriously in a pit of snakes?
I guess that is the truth. Thank you so much,
Gabby for that illuminating, truthful, hard hitting journalism that you
just gave us. When we come back, more Viking content
(17:30):
and my sonorous voice. Hi, welcome back. Okay, we had
a conversation about Ragnar and sadly because this is Gabby's idea.
By the way, Gabby was like, you need to do
a story about goddesses, And y'all know I love goddesses already,
(17:52):
but I didn't know that Gabby's story was going to
be mostly fiction, or else I would not have done
a fiction story. But we're we're here now, so hey,
it's rooted in some elements of truth. Nika, Yeah, we
do we really ever follow rules on this podcast. We don't.
We're so crazy. It's important that you're talking about this
(18:12):
goddess though, because like, we just need to know that Ragner.
You know he's in the Holland shin. We need to
know what he's up to after his victorious death. That
is fair. Well, I am going to talk about a strong,
powerful woman, a girl boss if you will. We love
girl bosses on this podcast. And her name, her name
(18:35):
is Freya, and she is hot, and she has cats
who pull her chariot, and she's a Nordic goddess, so
like she has cats that pull her chats but well,
Lynxes possibly, Oh yes, that's cool, which is more than
enough of a description for me to get excited about someone.
So here we go. I think that's what I literally
wrote to you. She's hot and had a cat That
(18:57):
is exactly wrote to me, and I said, say no more,
say no more. Okay, it is known like own fact
that I am attracted to animated characters and seeing pictures
of Freya. I spent too much time researching this, so
here we're gonna be okay, Nika, I'm a little sweaty
and hot, but I also thinks because I turned the
(19:18):
A C off for better better recordings. So anyway, Freya
is a goddess of blessings and fertility and love, death, war, sex,
and magic. Very multi talented, a lot of things multifaceted.
Girl bosses are typically multifaceted. Her parents are the God
of the Sea and the Goddess of the Earth. She
is like a big deal in Nordic religion, in Nordic mythology,
(19:42):
and her name literally means lady, so you know, wow, Yeah,
what's up? So she has super cool attributes, m Like,
she is a shape shifter, which is very cool, and
she has this cloak of falcon feathers that enables her
(20:02):
to fly. And she also owns this like very powerful
necklace called the Breezing Gamin Yeah, which was crafted by
dwarves and it made the wearer irresistible. And she's kind
of like people have compared her to the goddess isis
from Egypt or like Aphrodite, if we're talking like Greek
(20:24):
mythology or whatever, so that's kind of her vibe. In
Nordic mythology, she's said to be like be very beautiful
and all of that sort of stuff, but also very powerful.
Oh there was also the necklace. Apparently, the story goes
that she was walking through the woods one day and
she saw these dwarves like they hadn't even finished carving
(20:45):
out the necklace, but they were like making the necklace.
She was like, I need to have that necklace, Like
how much money do you want for the necklace? And
they're like, that necklace is not for sale. She was like,
I would do anything. She was so into the necklace,
and the dwarves were like, okay, well we get to
be married to you. It was four dwarves for four nights,
so basically each night was a different dwarf that she
(21:07):
was quote unquote married too and therefore had sex with,
and so she was like yes, of course. And the
god Loki, who was like the troublemaker god in Nordic
mythology who always seems to be around, saw this happen
and was like, oh, I'm gonna go tell her husband.
So he went and he did that. Her husband, I
think is Odin, So like that's bad. No, Oden's not
(21:30):
her husband, Frega is his wife. Na actually but no, no,
how did they get married after these real people? No,
Frega and Freya actually, according to historians, could be the
same person because it said that Freya was married to Odin,
but then also Frigga was married to Odin, and Freya
only means lady, and Frigga is an actual name, so
(21:51):
a lot of historians say that, actually Freya is Frega,
but that is like some historians say that, other historians
don't say that, Like it's highly religious scholars, yes, religious
scholars to people who practice witchcraft, like people who say no,
they're totally different deities. And I'm like, okay, I'm just
(22:12):
going by, like when the Internet is telling me anyway,
he got I hope we don't get written up by
any Norse mythologist. Me too. Anyway, he got mad and
she did it and kept the necklace, but he like
got really mad and like left for a long time.
And then it said that she was so heartbroken by
(22:32):
what happened because she cheated on him with four dwarves
that she spent like a long time. Basically, looking for
her husband and crying golden tears. So golden tears. Yeah,
so that's a phrases story right there for you. I
think we're learning good lessons from that. Okay, like what
we listen? Well, I was just a very specific lesson
(22:56):
that you know, don't cheat on your husband with four
dwarves just because you want a necklace? Right right? Okay?
This what was this neck was? Like what was so
great about it? It was just amazing, Like she thought
it was so beautiful and it made the wear irresistible.
So that was but she didn't know about the magical
properties until she put it on, and that's why she's
(23:18):
also known as a very irresistible, beautiful blow. I think
it just like gave her confidence and she's like, oh
I am irresistible yet again the confidence once inside you
all along. Yeah, you don't need magic pants, you don't
need a fancy necklace. You'll need to believe in yourself. Wow,
she or had like a good personality, you know that
(23:39):
is true? Yes, anyway, back to the necklace, because this
was very interesting. So women who practiced magic this is
real during the Viking Age were called Volva's. It's ychonic.
I know and like Volva, and many times Freya was
(24:00):
the main goddess they worshiped since Freya is also a
Volva sorceress magician, which which whatever they were called Volva's
and one was actually found buried with a lot of
riches with her wand which is what they used to
practice magic and rituals. And she was also found with
(24:20):
a silver pendant of a woman with a necklace around
her that many archaeologists interpreted as Freya's necklace, which I
think is really cool. So she had like little statues
of Freya statues with her necklace. It was very well known,
like she's always almost always in paintings and stuff she
has the necklace, which I thought was really cool. Also,
it was just really cool that Volva's had such high
(24:41):
standing in like Nordic hierarchy because she this one was
buried with a lot of money and treasure and all
of that sort of stuff. And I just think that's badass.
Volva's in high standing. I mean, that's how it should
be now, you know. Anyway, So sadly, the church did
(25:02):
not like Frareya very much and kind of put out
a lot of bad on her that she was like
very I don't want to say saucy is not the word,
but like slutty. They basically called the slushed her. They
called her a slut oude, yeah, because they were trying
to get Pagans to convert. But this kind of actually
ended up working out for her because she was constantly
(25:22):
condemned by the church and therefore constantly remembered not only
by the church, by by people like peasants or whatever.
And she's actually one of the most widely worshiped pagan deities,
especially in the Scandinavia area. So people who practice witchcraft
will typically look to Freea for romantic help, for protection
and situations of domestic abuse, for fertility problems, and just whenever,
(25:46):
especially female witches need strength or encouragement, that's who they
usually go to. And it's also said that the two
cats who pull her chariot became witches after serving her
for seven years, and then they were able to shape
shift into black cats to hide their identities, which as
a black cat owner I found adorable. I was reading
all of these like p in websites and they were
(26:06):
saying that the one way of like showing honor to
Freya is by being nice to cats by beekeeping because
she loves honey, and then by celebrating Friday the thirteenth
as Freya's Day, because that is actually where the word
Friday comes from, which is pretty cool. Yeah, that's fun.
(26:28):
I love my Catt do. I don't think he's a
witch though you don't think so it's too lazy. Yeah,
he's literally right here. Oh oh my gosh, Jimmy is
passed out on Gabby's lap. That's adorable anyway. So yeah,
and I know Taylor, you love bees, so that's kind
(26:49):
of your connection with Freya, and I just think that's
really sweet. I think we can all find ways to
tap into that strong energy today. Okay, great, Yeah, that's great. Nika.
Thanks for grounding us back in reality by the end
of that, because I obviously didn't start strong and reality.
You're welcome. Well, I think we're about to get extremely
grounded in reality because Taylor has a terrifying tale that
(27:12):
has nothing to do with fantasy and has everything to
do with people being violent. So yeah, it's probably the
worst kind of reality. Yeah, it's a really really this
is a really sad story. So oh goody yep, So
here you go. So I'm going to tell you about
Ruthie May McCoy. She lived in the projects of Chicago
(27:35):
in a building called the Abbott Apartments. This complex was
like fifteen stories high, had drug dealers, gang members, other
people who couldn't you know, people who couldn't afford to
live elsewhere. It was just a bad part of town, etc. Etc.
So Ruthie May was known to be a bit of
a grout, which I understand that, but like she would
(27:59):
you be walking down the street and just yell at people,
cuss them out. As so passed by, she would like
have a stick in her hand and like wave it
at people, etc. She was just, you know, she was grumpy,
but she was also very paranoid. She also kind of
you know, in her early twenties, she had developed some
mental disorders. But by nineteen eighty seven, when she was
(28:21):
fifty two, she decided enough was enough and she was
gonna get her life together. So she was getting her ged,
She got a lot of her mental issues under control.
She was starting to make a little extra money, so
she was able to get clothes and so she would
get a job. But still she was still living in
the Abbot Apartments. She still didn't make enough money to
(28:43):
get out of there. So and she did have one
friend in the building who she would visit on her
way out every day. But m and everybody was like, Okay,
she's like getting less grumpy, like she's getting her life together.
Everybody was really proud of her. So these apartments, they
were the elevators never worked, super run down, like you
never really knew who was actually living there and who
(29:04):
was just like waters and like since it was so big,
this was like big apartments like that really are good
for crime and whatnot because you don't know who your
neighbors are and so you can't really keep track of things.
So anytime there was like an empty apartment, they would
just they would literally have to board it up, which
didn't work, but that was they had to go that far.
(29:28):
So cops were often being called there. There was all
kinds of crime and what not going on. Then on
April twenty second, nineteen eighty seven, Ruthie May called police
around eight forty five pm and she was frantic and
she said, quote, they throwed the cabinet down. I'm in
the projects on the other side. They can reach my bathroom.
(29:50):
They want to come through the bathroom. What so that's
so cryptic, and the cops were like, Okay, what's happening, Like,
what's going on? They were like, we'll send somebody out there.
But they determined that it was a disturbance with a neighbor,
and so they were like, not a super big rush.
They were just like they're having an argument or something,
(30:12):
but not a big deal, right, But like nobody cops
don't really show up. So then they get a call
a little bit later from two separate neighbors claiming that
they have heard screaming and gunshots. So police are like, okay,
I guess we'll go. So it takes them, I guess
we'll go. Okay, all right, Yeah, So they arrive in
like it takes them like ten minutes to get there,
(30:34):
knock on Ruthie May's door. There's no answer, and so
they call her. They hear the phone ring, but again
no answer. So the police are like, what do we do.
I guess we'll call the janitor and see if they
have a key or whatever. Well, the janitor couldn't find
a key that worked. They were like kind of accusing
her of being because she was so paranoid. They're like,
she's just really paranoid. She changed the locks and she's
(30:56):
not supposed to do that. The cops are like, okay,
well it's probably fine, so we'll just leave. So the
next evening, Ruthie May's neighbor, who remember Ruthie would visit
before leaving, was concerned because she hadn't. She didn't see
Ruthie May that day and that was odd because she
came by every day. So she calls the cops and
it's like, hey, can you do a wellness check? I'm
(31:18):
worried about her. Cops show up again, knock, knock, knock,
no answer, and they're like, oh, what will we do?
They're like, do we have a good enough reason to
knock the door down? And then they're like, nah, we don't.
And the building like the building people were like, we
don't want to have to deal with that anyway. So
the cops are like, okay, fine, well leave. So the
(31:39):
cops leave and come back the next day. They come
with somebody to like drill the lock so that they
can get in, and that is when they find Ruthie
May with four gunshot wounds laying on her bed. Oh
my god. So what They're like, Oh, what happened? We
whoop sees. So apparently what Ruthie May was trying to
(32:03):
say was that somebody was climbing through her medicine cabinet
and her bathroom and that's exactly what that is. Exactly
what happened. The intruder or intruder's plural climbed in through
the bathroom mirror what pow. So the way that the
building was constructed, there are like like the two neighboring
apartments medicine cabinets were like back to back, but there
(32:26):
was nothing in between the medicine cabinets besides like plumbing.
And the reason that they left it there is they're like, oh,
it'll just be easier to get to the plumbing if
there's an issue. So there was just basically a hole
between the two. And so what they would what people
would do is they would remove the medicine cabinets from
from the bathroom wall and then they could like climb
(32:48):
through the plumbing. I mean it was like a small hole,
but like if you were small enough, like you could
fit through the mirror. So that's exactly what happened. These
guys like went through and what they kind of assumed
happened was they had noticed that she was thriving. Ruthie
May was thriving and like potentially made a little bit
more money. Like they specifically they were like like everybody
(33:12):
was talking about it, like, oh, she's doing really well.
She must have money now, Like she was even getting
like conned by preachers air quote preachers and stuff by
being like, oh, I see that, like you're making money now,
like in order to be saved and all of this stuff,
like you just you can just write me a check
or whatever, and she would do it. She was like
(33:34):
she had a lot of faith and she like believed
in people at this point anyway, So they assumed that
they came in to like assuming that she had money
or whatever. This is so sad, I know. So so
obviously they murdered her. And they mentioned that they stole
at least three items, one of which was a phone.
(33:55):
Was the phone, so if you remember that first night,
the cops called and they heard the phone ring, so
like it's possible that they were still in there or
like gosh that or they came back to and like
stole the items later, which is totally possible as well.
So these two kids, Ted Turner, not Atlanti's Ted, but
(34:17):
he was eighteen, and John Honduras, who was twenty one,
were apparently seen taking her TV and rocking chair like
after she died. But like there was really there was
just a lack of evidence and so the charges were dropped,
so we don't really know if it actually was them
or anything. So so anyway, so that is like the
(34:40):
super sad story of Ruthie May. Now, so there's a
couple of things about this case that's like really interesting. Obviously,
like people climbing in through mirrors is like super sketchy
and weird and terrifying. But this case was appears to
be what the movie candy Man was based off of,
(35:01):
which was filmed a few years later or released a
few years later. They were both took place in the
Chicago Projects. Very similar situation came in through the bathroom
mirror and even the last name McCoy and it was
like a double name and McCoy, So that's like it's
(35:21):
it's kind of like I believe that some of the
producers actually reached out to people who worked in the
building and were like, hey, like do you want to
consult on this, and they were like, well, I'll read
the script, but you know, if I find that it's
like in poor taste or whatever, then I won't. So yeah,
a lot of people say, and it is highly likely
that candy Man was based off of this case. Wow,
(35:44):
and they never caught the killer essentially, No, I mean
they arrested those two boys, but then two years later
the charges were dropped because of a lack of evidence. Now,
Ruthie May had did have a daughter, and the daughter
sued the apartment complex for for like not helping in them.
I don't I can't remember exactly why it was, but
(36:06):
like they sued the apartment complex for her murder, and
then they made a scary movie. Oh my gosh. But
there's also I don't know if you've seen this. I
came across this one TikTok. There was this girl, I
think she was in New York who like always felt
a draft in her bathroom and she couldn't figure out
what it was coming from. So she like investigates and
(36:26):
finds that it's coming from her mirror. So she hate that.
So she's like, I'm gonna figure this out. So if
she takes the mirror off, same like medicine cabinet type situation,
takes the mirror off, and there's like a whole other
apartment back there, so like this is empty, right, yeah,
this is like abandoned. That makes you want to throw up.
I can't. And so she's like how sketchy is that?
(36:49):
And also secondly, she lives in New York. She's like,
this is a whole this is prime real estate here,
Like what the heck? But and it's just wait, did
anyone figure out why that apartment was there? I'm gonna
do some research if I don't know. I haven't done
research on that, but like that is That's one of
my biggest fears, is like you taking their medicine cabinet
(37:09):
off of your house and then they're being a whole
nother reality behind it. Well yeah, yeah, because you don't know,
Like that just freaks me out. Or the idea of
someone living in your house and you're not even knowing
that they live in your house, like if because they're
the attic or something like that, like that terrifies me.
That terrifies so scary. I think about that all the
time that somebody's I'm like my crawl spaced on. Oh
(37:31):
my god, Taylor. I worry about that more than I
probably should Yeah, it's it's me, got me my new
apartment that you haven't seen. It's actually Taylor's crawl space.
This is just a backdrop back here. That's a really
good backdrop. Thank you. Yeah, it looks really nice. I'm
(37:52):
glad you at least it's like a nice nice job
on it. Thank you. Pretty good lighting too. Yeah. Wow, um, well,
thank you Taylor for reminding me of one of my
unreasonable fears. That is something I can and think about
tonight as I try to sleep. All right, Well, when
we come back, you know, more mirror trouble he he he,
(38:17):
welcome back. Wow. Well this episode has been a roller coaster,
it really has. It's been all over the place. Yeah yeah, yeah,
from very sobering truths to like volvas and you know,
magical pants and stuff which are not the same thing,
not the same thing. Okay, So Taylor sent me a
(38:38):
super fun link that led to hours in a wormhole
of knowledge and confusion that I feel super happy I
get to share with you all today. If I don't
explain it, well, I'm sorry. I'm not a physicist. I
literally don't have a college degree, so you can imagine
how researching this went. Okay, maybe you'll get an honorary degree. Now, Nika,
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you wouldn't even have to go to college. You'll just
get a physics degree. I'll be nice Oa from like
Harve Hard. So we all know atoms like the small
little atom, like the like no atoms. Atoms, Yes, I've
heard of them, quite small, Okay, So it is for
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people who might not be familiar. It is what basically
everything is made out of. I know they are made of.
Get ready for this, you guys, Protons, neutrons, and electrons. Okay.
I love the chaotic energy of an electron. Oh my gosh,
you are an electron. That's so cute. Oh wait, this
is a fun game, Gabby. Okay, So Nika is a proton.
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Why the frick am I a proton? Gabby is a neutron? Hello,
I said, why am? I don't know? Is it because
I'm aggressivetron? Because I feel like neutrons is like neutral
and you kind of have like that neutral tone of voice.
Oh I thought it was always the evil one. And
then that's so I'd be the elect tron. No, Taylor
(40:06):
is the electron. I think Gabby's the neutron. Because Gabby
without anyone fizzles out and dies in fourteen minutes and
forty eight seconds, as we're about to find out. Okay, anyway,
that was a rost. Okay, No, I appreciate that. I like,
I will be thinking about myself for a while after
that comment. So sorry if I don't do any sweet
(40:27):
riffs minutes, so sorry. Okay. So yeah, you know we're
getting very basic. Okay, now that we have the cadaver
gals categorized. So when neutrons are by themselves, as I
just mentioned, they're floating around, not attached to protons or electrons,
they are very unstable and begin to decay a key
(40:50):
component can confirm. Honestly, me too, though me too. I'm
the one who's like, I've been in long term relationships
more than I probably should at just twenty four years
of age, which, by the way, I'm twenty four. Happy
birth to me, Happy birthday. I like how we're like
using atoms to like manifest our external traumas to the listeners.
(41:15):
I appreciate this. The physicists hate us because I'm sure
business are listening. If you are a physicist, please stop listening. No,
I was gonna say comment and just tell us how
dumb we are. Let's tell my therapist XT week. Yeah.
I've just been really feeling like a neutron recent They're
just like, ye honestly, um okay, Well, anyway, A key
(41:38):
component to atoms and all of this atoms what we
are made of is that um. All of protons, neutrons,
and electrons are the same. They react in the same ways.
This is important. This is like a law of physics. God,
I hope I don't fuck this off. Scared? Okay, yeah,
I don't know where you're going with this. I get
ready strap in. Are we going to Valhalla again? This
(42:02):
is this related to Norse mythology. We're going somewhere even weirder. Okay, okay,
yeah yeah. When scientists were doing an experiment to find
out how long does it take neutrons to decay, they
found a discrepancy. Oh god, oh sorry, I'm laughing that
we've we've said the gap is a neutron. God, that's
(42:25):
gonna fum sorry. Okay. It took a beam of neutrons
fourteen minutes and forty eight seconds to fully decay in
beam form, okay, beam not being formed? Okay, then, well
I'm always in being for guys, I'm trying to teach. Okay, no,
(42:46):
I know how my side, my middle school science professor,
doctor Truelove felt okay tbd. Not like her. Okay, oh
my god roasted not like her. She was really mean
to me the first time I ever, like my literally
second day of school in the US. I had never
seen a scantron before. I know what the fuck those
things were. And she gave me a scantron test and
(43:08):
I literally looked at this and I was like, what
am I supposed to do? And she likes said something
hellas enophobic, like low key. I don't remember exactly what
it was, but it was basically something like what you
don't have these where you come from? And I was like,
what the heck? Okay, Also, scantron's not something to be
proud of, you know, yeah, it's really not anyway, America
home of the scantrons. Okay, so listen, listen. So they
(43:33):
then put the same amount of neutrons, the same amount
in a lab bottle, and they did the exact same experiment,
but this time it took the neutrons fourteen minutes and
thirty eight seconds to fully decay. That is a ten
second time difference, which is a very big deal for physicists. Okay,
physicists are people who like point zero zero one seconds off.
(43:53):
Oh god, gotta run the test again, you know what
I mean? Yeah, yeah, me not okay. So they initially
blamed user error or faulty machinery understandably, but the experiment
has been done multiple times throughout the years and still
ten to nine second delay, which is weird. Now, this
is where mirrors come in. Anatoli Sarah Brov from the
(44:15):
Petersburg Nuclear Physics Institute, which by the way, needs to
update its website, said that the reason for the delay
in time is that sometimes ordinary neutrons instead of this,
cross into a mirror universe, where they become mirror neutrons,
which is why we don't see them anymore and they
are impossible to count. Wait, yeah, what Maybe that's why
(44:39):
their website is an updated because that's in the mirror universe.
I mean yeah, yeah. They're very busy. What the fuck
is a mirror? What does that mean? That seems saying no,
So they're no, no, no, no no, They're trying to figure
out what is this ten second difference? Where do those
neutrons go? That take away that ten second difference, and
(45:02):
this person said, they go into a mirror universe that
is just like ours, which is not It can be
a parallel universe. Yes, basically. Yeah, anyway, it's not that
crazy when you start researching it, but it's still kind
of a stretch. Like as I was reading this, I
was like, okay, I'm sorry, so so so the neutrons
(45:27):
that we cannot see. You immediately theorize that it is
because I snapped, by the way, listener, it is because
it goes into a mirror universe. Okay. So scientists have
actually taken this hypothesis seriously, and it could also explain
the strange phenomenon that is dark matter, which has been
observed not visually but rather by like gravitational polls that
(45:50):
cannot be explained unless we account for dark matter that
simply doesn't interact with the electromagnetic field, so we cannot
see it. We know it's there, but we can't see it.
So some scientists have said that maybe dark matter is
actually mirror matter living in a mirror universe but affecting
the gravitational pool of our universe. Mika, you definitely are
(46:12):
gonna you deserve an honorary degree from thank you. I
sound like I'm on adderall like I'm like, listen, guys,
but I so I actually thought that I thought everything
was a simulation. You said that. I never said a
simulation thing. Okay, I would love for this to be simulation.
Do you know how many times I played sims for
(46:33):
hours when I was younger. The idea of me being
a sim quite frankly turns me on. I wish. Oh anyway, okay, girl,
you are a sim Thank you sweating again? Okay, sou
To further this theory, if that is the case, and
dark matter is mirror matter living in a mirror universe,
(46:55):
then the mirror universe is very big because there is
way more dark matter in the universe than regular matter.
It has been observed there's like five times more dark
matter than regular matter, so must be. But if you
don't see dark matter, then how do you know because
of gravitational pulse. So like there was a diagram, well
a picture really of I think stars and planets and stuff,
(47:18):
and like they pointed with little arabs on the diagram
where the gravitational pool of dark matter was that kept
these planets away and stuff like that. That's the best
way I can describe it, but I can send you
a link. It made sense as I read it. As
I say that lauda might not make that much sense.
But dark matter is something that does exist that not
(47:39):
a lot of people know about. But that is confirmed.
Mirror matter not confirmed just yet. So there's people who
are also still trying to prove this, like doctor Leah Brossard.
She conducted an actual experiment to open a portal into
that mirror universe. And basically the experiment this was like
in twenty nineteen. She's a witch, yes, so basically she's
(48:03):
sending a beam of subatomic particles on a fifty foot
tunnel past a strong magnet and into an impenetrable wall. Impenetrable, Okay.
Her hypothesis is that, according to the current laws of physics,
no neutron should get past the barrier. Like it's just
it can't happen. It's impenetrable. Count exactly penetration. Anyway, if
(48:24):
the head count is off and some neutrons did pass
the impenetrable barrier, then they became mirror neutrons. And that's
evidence for the mirror universe. As best as I could
have understood its way. So they go through a medicine cabinet. Noah,
what okay, so I'm just thinking of the last story. No,
(48:44):
but that is my connection, mirror and mirror. See that's
my tangent. Oh, they should update Candy Man, and they
should make it about the missing neutrons. About the missing neutrons.
M Gabby is the missing neutron anyway. Um, So I
tried to find the results from this experiment because oh
my gosh, what if she did open a portal and
I was conducted in twenty nineteen. But I found nothing.
(49:07):
So because maybe listen, she's on Twitter and she's like
there regularly. So if you all want to ask her,
hit her up, be my guest. Let's figure this out together.
I love that this is the This took me way
deeper than I thought we were going to and I
love it. Oh, well, you're thank you. Yeah, I hope
(49:28):
it was a little bit understandable. I don't know, you're
the atomy, not the astrology, the astronomy person. I mean,
I just like to look at the sky. Yeah, but
you're also like, ooh, there's Mars. I don't know what
Mars looks like. Yeah, you do we talked about it. No,
but I did find out this week that my mars
is in Scorpio and so is my venus. Oh that's hot.
(49:50):
Yeah see astrology astronomy, big difference. But whatever, Well, this
was our episode. You know, we've got some funtasy, we've
got some science, we've got some mirror Universe situations going on.
So just a normal davergross episode, I would say, yeah, okay, yeah,
this one was pretty normal. Okay, well, thank you so
(50:11):
much for joining. Any last remarks, my fellow I was
gonna say, fellow communists. Sorry, I know you guys are communists.
Fell a fellows fell at my neutron. Hi, guys, I
didn't want you to figure find this it out this way,
but I am my mirror universe self. We switched. Okay.
(50:35):
Um oh my gosh, that reminds me of us. That
is a freaking scary movie. Okay, Well, you know, I
hope we never have to go through Mirror Universe people
again because again ever, because I just think I would
freak out and probably have a heart attack. Okay, well,
this is a great closing remark. Love you all so much,
and I kiss you all the forehead. Good night, Dagal.
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Cadaver Gals is a production of School of Humans and iHeartRadio.
It is edited, produced, researched, et cetera by Taylor Church,
Gabby Watts, and Nica Art. You can follow us on
Instagram and Twitter at cadaver g a l S. See
you next week.
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