July 14, 2025 • 58 mins
If you think the Grey’s season 8 finale was full of suspense, what was happening behind the scenes was even more intense!
Jessica talks shooting the nail-biter with a bun in the oven, and the scene that made her fear for her baby!
Plus, season finale or SERIES finale? Hear why the cast was THIS CLOSE to calling it quits!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camil Lunnington,
an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Well, Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello Call It crew, and welcome
to the most depressing episode Call It What It Is.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I'm already in a bad mood. And I saw that.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Episode twenty four of season eight, the season finale, was
you know, in the top five of things that the
crew wanted us to recap.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I was so excited.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
I was THRILLI I couldn't wait. I was like, Oh
my gosh, that's great. So much happened in that episode.
This is gonna be so dramatic, and oh, it's gonna
be so much fun to look back on that work.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
And then and then I watched it.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, when was the last time you watched that episode?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Well, while I was rewatching it, I was reminded that
it turns out I never did.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Oh you've never seen it.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Well, after watching and I now know why I didn't
watch it.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
So I haven't seen it since I started the show.
So this is like thirteen years ago, and I had
forgotten all the other parts of it, and probably for
a reason, for a reason, I was horrified. I thought
I would watch it over coffee.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
This morning.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I was like, oh, great, Coomel, why would I can
do that? Just the worst way to set up my day.
Let's start with a table read.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Well again, flood of emotions. It was so depressing, the
sad stable read of all time.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Because okay, so here, sorry, in all seriousness, the thing
that I'm going to say that is maybe controversial, maybe not,
maybe just reporting from the front lines of my truth.
This episode was really really sad. It was really sad.
I found the whole thing very depressing.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Well, they're wearing a lot of lols.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I didn't like it at all.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
No, no, I don't like it either.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I didn't like this episode. You don't need to watch
it again.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
No, I never want to see this episode again.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Was the first and last day that I saw episode
twenty four of season eight.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Okay, let's start at the table read.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Even though you know your television shows, your favorites are
the ones you watch, seem like it's just a foregone
conclusion that those characters are going to come back every season.
We are as actors contract players, which means that our
contract is for that season. So every season that's a
new season, we actually have to get re hired.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
On some level when you finish.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
The season, no promises, no guarantees that you're coming back.
You're the last episode of any given season.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Really could be your last.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
In this particular case, again, we will check Jessica's facts.
My memory was that there were a lot of people
up for contract renegotiations, which wasn't just getting wasn't just
you were getting picked up, and you were actually renegotiating
the price that you get paid per episode in this year.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
It's my memory that the people that were sort of.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Hearing the script for the first time at the table read,
but also understanding that they may not come back the
next year, ye were myself, Eric Dane. It's my memory
that Lexi knew she Kyler knew she was leaving.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I'm not in this episode, so I'm really truly watching
it as a fan. Yeah did you know that? She
was going? Yeah, oh you did, Okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
And it was super sad.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
And also a sneak attack that actually made me really
even more sad. And she absolutely crushed the episode and
I was weeping.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Kim, Kim, I mean, Kim, I mean, I was a puddle.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
So the episode table read was it was heavy, it
was a heavy table read.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
It was. It was full of like.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Uncertainty in terms of could was this your last table read?
And then I do believe again I completely cross memories here,
but I do believe that Kim did know that was
her last little did she know she'd.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Come back right, so she thought she was leaving.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
And yeah, it was just heavy heavy.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Were you guys allowed access to the script before the
table read?
Speaker 4 (04:59):
No, I mean you got to table you know, you
get to table read time, and there'd be lunch out
and your scripts would usually be sitting it. You'd grab
a script or it would be sitting in your little spot,
and so I think a lot of people would kind
of like sneaky snake, They'd like, you know, look, yeah,
but honestly, there's not usually that much time. You're certainly
not going to read the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
So now we get access to scripts ahead of time,
but back then we we were reading them is sometimes
for the very first oftentimes for the first time in
the table read. Oh oh my god. Okay, so that was.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
The table reading. Those were table readvice.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Let's talk about actually like filming location getting up there.
Do I remember you telling me you guys filmed a
big Bear. Is that where you went?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
So we also were not filming on our stage as
we were filming in Big Beer. Well okay, so again
I was watching it for the first time. I forgot
that there was this flip flop. So you start the
episode and you're kind of like, where am I right?
You're like, yeah, which, what are we on here? What
are we watching? What's happening?
Speaker 4 (06:03):
And you're having this flashback of Weber talking to the
inter about you know, and you're seeing baby all of them, right,
like baby, great, baby crib. You see all these babies,
all these baby surgeons, and you're like, wait, what's going on?
And then it's juxtaposed to the wilderness and this horrible screaming,
(06:28):
this horrible screaming.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Who was doing that horrible screaming that was so high
pitched and annoying and awful?
Speaker 4 (06:37):
That was me?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
I was doing the horrible screaming.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
So I realized it was your horrible screaming. It was
kind of quickly and then I went into actromode and
I'm like, how long you actually have to scream for?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
I had to.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Scream for so long, and I remember that it was
again I was I am remembering that it was written
that my screaming was meant to be horrible. It was
meant to be you could you did not want to
listen to it.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
It was so horrible. It was so repellent.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
It was like it was it was baked in the
into the words, into the description that this was the
kind of scream that was not like, it wasn't even
I'm feeling pain. It wasn't even it was It was
just the most annoying, incessant, repetitive screaming, and it was
high pitched, and all these things add to that.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
I was very pregnant.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I know, I'm thinking about this for you. First off,
screaming for that long acting is so exhausting physically, and
so I I literally was like, damn, how long was
she screaming for? Because there are a lot of cuts
in those opening scenes, and then you know, Sandra's like.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Yet, yeah, Christina is so good in that. Christina is
so good.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
So yeah, No, I'm doing a lot of I know,
and I have a lot of I have a lot
of thoughts about I mean, I don't even know how
to stay on track here and telling the story.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I think that we organically like have it go where
it takes you. I don't you know, like I think
that we it's a messy episode, so let's be messy.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
So we know that we know that it's we know
that we know that some people are not going to
make it out of this episode alive. Literally, We know
that some actors aren't going to make it back to
the show literally, and that's where we start this episode.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
And we know we're filming on location, which we never do.
So there's a lot of you know, there's a lot
of different things that we just don't normally do. It's
not part of our usual programming, and we're all a
little bit not stuck in our ways.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
We're just used to our normal programming, which is, you know,
we we we live in Los Angeles, we work in
Los Angeles. A lot of us have families, and so
going on location meant leaving our families living in a hotel.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
And then also it was.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
It was the last so of the season, which back
in the day, which you don't even do anymore, I
mean nobody does anymore, is shoot twenty four episodes.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
So you're at the end of your race. Like if
you've ever run a marathon, you're at mile twenty six,
you got point two to go.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
You are exhausted, everything has been taken out of you,
so we get this really big episode. I do feel
that it's important to say something and it is positive,
so I'm going to jump in there with the positive.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
It's a beautifully written script. It's a beautifully written script,
and it's a tough script.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
And for a show that I think, you know, gets
a lot of attention for being obviously very emotional but
also having sort of these equal parts emotion emotional and
heartbreaking but also heart filling, this was really like a
very brave show to produce because it was it took.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
A lot out of everyone.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
But I do think it was really well, you know,
put together, especially because you have to go back and
forth between the wilderness and the hospital, and the wilderness
is genuinely You're not watching you know, people who you've
just met a second ago in a life for death circumstance.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
You're watching you know series regulars that you you were.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Invested in their whole lives in life and death circumstances.
And it wasn't I was actually it's snuck up on me.
I didn't realize that Lexi dies so quickly. I mean
she dies in the first like half hour.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
No, she died because I stopped. Okay, so I was
watching this morning Matt came in and he came in
literally at that moment when she died, and I paused
it and it said fifteen minutes. He's like, this is
the first fifteen minutes, and I was like, yes. We
were also like this is incredible writing because there's a
(10:46):
whole other show still had so much still to go,
and they packed that horrible punch fifteen minutes in where
you're already devastated and then you're like, what where is
this going now? But I want to know how long
you were actually having to scream for? Like how long
was that?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
And I was very I wasn't just kind of pregnant.
I was I'm probably shooting that in the beginning of May,
and I had Poppy in June, so I was a
good you know, seven and a half eight months pregnant.
I was very pregnant, which is why I'm always covered
in a jacket too. But I'm screaming for you know.
I mean, I remember just we would just every setup
we did, I think that they would get like a
(11:25):
wild track of me just screaming. But so when when
you realize that we've had this plane crash, we then
kind of like the show shows you that there's different
sectors of plane crash, right, so there's there's you know,
Christina and Meredith. And also I'm just going to say
everyone acted their asses off.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
In this episode.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Everyone was incredible. There's a lot of times when I
watched the show and I'm like, so incredibly proud to
be part of it. And after that episode, I was like, damn,
raise anatomy in the house.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Oh how about that first shot on Meredith's face and
she just lets you know everything that's happening without even knowing, yes,
And then Christina comes in and then I'm screaming. Then
you you don't know where. Then you realize you need
to find people, and the people you need to find
are Alexi and Derek. And then you hear that banging
and Lexi's grabbed the seat belt and is clanging it
(12:25):
against the side of the airplane that's broken off and
landed on top of her.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
So then they find her.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
But then you also establish that I'm there, and I'm
there with Jerry Pilot.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Jerry, I know, I love Pilot Jerry, and it's a
wonderful actor.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Most of my time with him.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
And you watch Arizona go through this weird hysteria and
hystericalness where she starts laughing and you're like, why are
you laughing?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
And then Christina is having to.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Get her shoulder popped back in because now we found Sloan,
and Sloan of course is going to go over to
where Alexi is. But then Meredith still hasn't found Derek.
And then you find Derek and then you see his
mangled hand.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Popping out from the wreckage.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
It's offing, not not the surgeon of the surgeons, like,
just save the hand. The head can go even, but
not the hand as a surgeon. Let's talk about because
(13:42):
it's a really gruesome episode. Okay, let's talk about your
lag dude. That reveal is is fantastic. What exactly are
we seeing there?
Speaker 4 (13:56):
We're seeing like some flank steak, is what you're seeing.
You're seeing like some flank steak that was covering some
very well made and artistically produced and then overseen by
our most divine Linda Kline bone and then they dressed
(14:17):
the bone with them.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
In my memory, steak, it was like different pieces of steak,
and then we had the blood and then.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
And then I'm I pick up my leg and move
it no, because it was yeah, it was broken.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
But then you hear her trying to be a doctor
for Jerry.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
I know, I'm not a very good doctor. She basically
just tells them to like not move too much.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Actually, let's talk about that really quick, because I that's
something that I really think is so great that our
show does, is where our doctors are doctoring on themselves
or each other at the same time, which just happens
throughout the whole episode, right, Yeah, And I just think
it's such a fun element to write for in the
(15:08):
chaos of everything. I want to know really quick, just
like facts again, I know we're like skipping around. How
many days were you up there filming? Do you remember
a hundred million? It felt like a week, ninety nine days.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
I think we were there. I think our whole crew.
I mean, I'm guessing that our whole crew was up
there for some period of ten days. I definitely remember
it's ten days. It felt like it, for sure. We
were there, definitely there more.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Than a week.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Yeah, there was a weekend in there. Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Okay, yeah, no, that I.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Mean really off topic. But I remember Big Bear's kind
of a place that families go, and I think some
couples go out there to they ca romantic whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I remember my room had a really really large jacuzzie
bathtub in the middle of it. I remember being pregnant
and being like, well.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
In the middle of it, Oh my god, like you
got the honeymoon, sweet, Yeah, I got the honeymoon. Oh
my god, I love it so much. Okay, okay, yeah,
so at least you've got to go back to the
honeymoon sweet have your middle of the room jacuzzie.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
It was so Yeah, I thought it was interesting because again,
well I hadn't I thought it was interesting because I
hadn't watched episode twenty three, so I was really coming
into it cold.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Yeah, but there was.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
And you're still working with him every day, and it's
gonna seem like I pick on him. I don't mean to.
It's just that Kevin is so serious. He just comes
in with so much seriousness. He is the most serious
doctor on that show.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
He is very But you know what it is, because
I I.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
So he's like extra serious.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I think it's the military edge, right.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Oh that's right.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yeah, it's the it's the military. It's woven into the
character m although I will say that like in later seasons,
now he's there's a lot of there's more humor and
funny moments for Owen Hunt. But back then, oh yeah,
and especially this episode, Oh.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
My god, Chief Kevin is just.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Like he's chief in But when we come back.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
To the hospital, we are confronted with not just Kevin mkid,
we are confronted with Chief Kevin McKidd.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yes, which I had forgotten.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I hadn't watched the previous episodes. I'm just watching this
episode and I forgot where they are in their messy
arc of a relationship, and I feel like I need
to go back to remember, like are they were they
semi together at this that were they on the They're
on the outs right right?
Speaker 3 (17:57):
So I agree. I also was like, where are we
in this?
Speaker 4 (17:59):
But ye watched the episode, you realize he's just lost
Christina and Christina because remember he paused, he didn't say
it quick enough that he wouldn't be right. Yes, he's
lost her because she's going to go and do other things.
And Teddy meanwhile, has fallen in love with Scott Foley's character.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
So Teddy has lost the love of her life because he.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Died in ther that they're working in, Yes, and so
they're now what their friendship is replete and it is
as really.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
To go back to the fact that they started in
the military comrades and best friends. And so that's why
she feels like she can't leave him, is because he's
already being left by the love of his life. She's
lost the love of her life, and so she needs
to hold on to whatever piece of normalcy she can
and or.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
A sad fairy tale, right.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Which is that her husband is alive halls of his
hospital and when she leaves it, she will have lost
every piece of him.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
It's so that it is, and it is written so well.
And I have to say, when I was watching the
scene when she's explaining why she wants to stay, I
was thinking, she's acting in just a mask and you're
only seeing her eyes, and that's how you know someone's
like just a fantastic actor, because her eyes said it
all everything, And I was like, damn, kim acting her
(19:25):
butt off in this scene. Did you find the cuts
back and forth like jarring a little bit?
Speaker 4 (19:33):
I was going to say that that's the thing is that,
so you leave the wilderness, you come into the hospital,
you get Chief Hunt.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
You know, he means business. He's so serious.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Now you're in the you're in the residence lounge and
that Jesse. I mean he was right. I mean, I
guess he has he has reason to complain. How many
times did his shirt come off on the show? Why
was he always changing?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
You know what? I don't know if she that he
needed to change my shirts many times a day.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Multiple if the camera came around the corner, he should
take off his shirt.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Evidently he's got to change it. Yeah, he's got to
change his shirt.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
So he's taking off his shirt. Keviner's coming in. I
was to talk about, like where are we in the journey?
I was like, where are they again?
Speaker 4 (20:19):
So I had to remind myself a little bit. But
now we're back to the wilderness, and now Christina and
Sloan are at or have found Lexi and they're like, okay.
I thought it was so crazy when Christina said run
it down for me, but she's talking about running a.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Test for her for herself, Like, what's wrong? You do
the bodies here?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
I know that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
It's like the leaning into the fact that their doctors
and they can do that for themselves is just it
adds so much fire to like the episode.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
And then you see the characters at different parts of
the Wilderness journey, but you see all of them go
through through this stage of grief, which is bargaining, right,
So Sloan starts bargaining. He's like, I'm gonna it's gonna
be okay because I'm gonna You're gonna live. You're not,
oh sorry. And denial he's like, you're gonna be fine,
(21:14):
Everything's gonna be okay.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
You're not dying. And Lexi knows she's dying. Lexi's fully
aware that she's dying. O.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
God, I truly needed that. This is gonna sound really bad.
I needed it to be over because I knew it
was coming and that I love you and I'm dying
and hold my hand. I was like, I'm not holding
her hand, and he doesn't want to hold her hand,
and then he ends up holding her. He tries to
lift the plane off her again, and then he goes
(21:45):
and when he holds her hand again, I just like
I could not stand it. I just wanted it to
be done. I was like, this is torture.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
This was my note, it's my favorite. Mark Slanci never.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Oh yeah, yeah, I would say, I would say.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
So.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I wonder how many times they had to do that scene.
I know you probably were. I was there, Oh you were.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Everybody was talking about it. Everybody was talking about how
heartbreaking it was. It was very emotional when.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Kyler had her last take, like the last word, the
last take, and you know, Eric was really crushing it
and just doing like giving her everything and she was
giving him everything, and they were so they really had
gotten to the point where I think in Storyland we
all really invested in them being the meant to be.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Yeah, and you also forget that, well, you don't forget,
but you're you're running so many stories at the same
time in your head. Is that.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Well, Meredith is so obsessed with finding Derek, which of
course is warranted. Christina, in coming back for supplies, sees
Meredith and because she's just seen Lexi, she's like, Meredith, you.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Needed to come, Yeah, you got you got.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
To come see because she knows she's dying. So then Meredith.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
And when she finds out after that commercial break, and
her wailing and weeping is you know a little bit
like Arizona's whaling and weeping.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
It's just like from her, it's a whole other general.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yeah, like it's that deep. I just yeah, that scene
is so iconic. And then the fact that Meredith didn't
she arrives when she's already passed and she didn't get
to say goodbye, and it's just and we had.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
To film it's worth mentioning.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
We had to film the outside stuff and the wilderness
stuff and the big bear stuff so much differently than
we normally film our show because this is a guest technical.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
But in our regular show, we you know, our crew
and all the all the departments, every single one from
props to camera to sound. Everybody knows our sets and
it's a real program. They know where all the things go. Oh,
they know how to do the thing. And we were
all in completely unfamiliar territory.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
So we were not laying down, you know, Dolly, We
were not you know, recording sound in the same way
because we were competing with birds chirping and airplanes flying
and sounds that we don't normally compete with, and so everything.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
About it was so much more. My memory was like it.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Was raw and it was honestly probably influenced by the storytelling.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
It was painful. It was like painful. It was kind
of aggravating.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
The light would change and then all of a sudden
they'd have to add things and then you'd have to
wait and you were covered in blood.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
That was the other thing I was gonna say. The blood.
People don't understand, like the blood's all sticky. You're probably
in the dirt with the like that fake blood is
like glue, and it does get aggravating to have it
on you.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
So this is the this is the one funny story
that I have from this episode. We shoot the episode
and in order to get the blood and stuff, and
Arizona had quite a lot of stuff on our face.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Yeah, you would, and in her hair and you would
have to get or the best way to get it
at was shaving cream.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
So you'd get shaving cream and you'd just lather it
up all over and there was something about it that
would remove that the cookie stuff and.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
So and then a hot towel. So when we were
shooting and you just go back to your hotel room
at night, you know, you would take back your shaving
cream and your hotels and you'd go home and you'd
do it in your hotel room and you didn't see
anybody else, and it was done the last day.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
We finished, and we all got in our cars to
go home. And I have said this before, and I
think probably even more so in this case.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
You go a little especially after like a highly emotional
scenes or content, you kind of get nuh when you
get in your car and you kind of don't want
to talk to anyone. You just kind of zone no
and big bears on a big mountain.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
And so I drive home. I'm so pregnant, I'm numb.
We've finished this long, hard shoot and I'm driving and
I finally get down to the We get to the
freeway and I'm driving on the freeway and I hit
a little bit of traffic and I'm sitting in traffic
and I'm looking out the window and I'm like processing
and everything else. And I looked to my left because
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there's a car there, and.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Don't say you got recognized.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
This woman turns locks eyes with me, and her face
registers what I look like, which is a like I'm
in a horror movie, like I've got blood everywhere.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
I'd been completely I mean, she did not know what
to do.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I mean I couldn't hear because she was in a car.
But it was like she screamed, Slash said like do
you need help? Slash, And there was nothing I could
actually say.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Back that would be comforting to her, right, like besides
rolling down my window asking her to roll down hers,
and stopping in the middle of a freeway to say,
oh no, no, don't worry.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
I'm on a TV show.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Which filmed I was just in a plane crash and
it's I'm totally fine. My legs come off, but it's like,
it's totally fine. That's really funny.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
So that woman is out there in the world somewhere
today and she has some story about and it probably
is sad, right she probably imagines that, yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Sad person. But I'm here to tell you that if
you ever hear this, it was not sad. It was
just me coming home from work.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
God, I can't believe you drove all.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Like that anyways.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Okay, so we go back to the hospital. Kim is
crushing it. She's doing all that she's doing. I love
the scene that comes when we come back to the
World with the Woods again with Christina and Meredith, where
Christina is so over it and she is like, I
am over the guns to my head and I'm over
business and as soon as I get home, I am
getting the hell away from Seattle, Grace, Mercy, Death, Death,
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I'm out of here.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
That was brilliant. I also we didn't talk about this,
but I loved at the beginning. God, Sandra's is so
good in everything. I loved at the beginning how she
(28:30):
was obsessed with her shoe.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yeah, where's my shoe?
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Where's my shoe? I loved that that was like part
of her chaos makes sense.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
To me the weird way, like when you can't control anything, No, it.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Does, it totally does, so silly. I thought it was
fantastic writing.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
And then I also love when she said the whole
thing about when she was like, because Meredith is still
looking at her like she's her person and she's gonna
have some you know, some sage answers of things or
figure it out, and she's like, I have.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
PTSD and I'm not related. I'm not reliable.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
Yeah no, yeah, yeah yeah, But she's still in the trauma.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Like she's saying, yeah, I have PTSD, but she's actually
in the TS part.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
There's no TRD.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
There's so much I know, there's so many elements to like,
so many people's journey in this episode. It really by
the way, I think the whole episode's like forty two minutes,
and it's unreal what you guys pack into that. I do.
I found it super jarring, the back and forth between
the hospital and the airplane. And I think that it
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works though, because you're never with you guys long enough
to sort of get comfortable in your chaos and trauma.
You're thrown back into the hospital. So by the time
you're back with you guys, it feels like a slap
in the face.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Well yeah, because you go from you go from them
using a safety pin to close Derek's wound to Weber
and the o R being like, you kids jazzed about dinner.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Oh okay, well let's let's talk about that. Because I
was a resident, I don't remember ever having a duck dinner.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
You didn't get a duck dinner.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
I didn't dare Yeah, I'm wondering where my steak dinner was.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Well, maybe Krap talked you out of it, because his
next line was I'll still, I'll give you ten bucks
to stab me in the face right now.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
This is true. Maybe maybe Joe was told to stay
home in order to take out This is totally possible.
Let's talk about Kapner and Avery.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Oh gosh, I'm in which part?
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Well, let's talk. First off, I feel like I really
missed our chemistry on the show.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
It really I miss like they looked like babies.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
He did look like little babies. I missed our chemistry
on the show.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Wease are you in right now?
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Five hundred?
Speaker 3 (31:00):
No?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
But really twenty we're about to go into twenty two.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Okay, so that was season eight. It was a very
long time ago.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yeah, that is a very long time fourteen eighteen years ago?
Fourteen yeah, thirteen, Oh yeah, no, it's a really long
time ago. Can we talk about their I was wondering
where they were in their relationship, and I got like
ap when she started talking about being happy.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
M hmm.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
And then they'd had sex, and the whole virgin thing
forgot about that, and.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
She really liked having sex with him, but she wasn't happy.
She wasn't a virgin anymore, and.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
She didn't know who she was. I, you know, someone say,
she feels her word.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
So now she wasn't even like the dot she was.
I know, she wasn't a virgin.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
I thought. I just thought it was. I thought Sarah
did such a good job of that.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Always does such a good job. They super look like babies.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I know, I know. Anyway, Okay, okay, let's go back
to the horror.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
S know, and right before you go into that scene,
which is so tender and sweet and honest. And both
of them, I mean, Jesse and Sarah were always really
good at being honest with each other in their storytelling.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Like they both showed up.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
They were very it was simple and it was clear,
and it was honest and so and you lean into
that as a viewer, you're like, yes, tell me more,
because they had super high arching storylines, right, I mean,
she's saying things like I'm not a virgin anymore and
you're my best friend, and they're big things she's talking about,
but she's making them so simple and so relatable that
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you and he's really listening and it's you know, it's
so great.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
I do have to say, also, when you what one
second on that note that when you come onto the
show with your intern class, there is a bond that
happens with that intern class if those actors are able
to sort of stay around long enough with you, because
sometimes you know on Grays, you know, we have an
interurn has to leave and this happens to the other intern.
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And I think that for Sarah and Jessee coming on
at the same time as that class, like they would
just bond in a way that you do see in
other classes too. But that chemistry just sticks around with you,
regardless of like romantic chemistry, Like the intern chemistry sticks
around with you. And I was just reminded of that
(33:25):
watching it.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Right before you go to that scene I have in
my notes that I was watching.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
I also saw or noticed that Arizona was kind of
on her own with Jerry, Like, yeah, she was not
part of the Meredith, Christina Derek, and she wasn't part
of the Lexi Sloan. I mean, we tire back in
at the end with Sloan, but she really was kind
(33:54):
of on her own, and I felt so bad for her,
felt so bad for her, just like with that, and
you know, nobody it wasn't wrong that they weren't, you know,
ministering to her. They were all bleeding out right, But
really you didn't know how bad it was for her.
(34:15):
You know, you see her coughing up a little blood
and you see the bone, but you're not you're not
really understanding what's going on. And of course, now that
we do know what ended up happening, I mean, listen,
she she gets to live, and that's a really huge thing.
And she's in big trouble. I mean she's in super
dupertuper duper big trouble.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Can I tell him my note on that? Yeah, I
you're going to laugh. What it's pretty on brand because
I'm a little slothy. And so I was watching. I
was like, Jessica got to sit the whole time, and
I was like, I would have liked that. I like
that you were sitting, especially pregnant. I'm like wondering if
they sort of did it on purpose. You couldn't have
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been climbing up and down the hills and there seven
months pregnant. I'm like, I would have had a little
pillow yeah under me.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Oh gosh, they had this.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Okay, so we would shoot down in this one spot
there was we shot at the bottom of this hill.
It was kind of like a ravine where it was
a little flat where the plane was that Jerry and
I were sitting at. And of course I'm seven and
a half eight months pregnant. Nobody wants me walking up
and down that. But the only way to get around
that was to get on this thing called the gator
(35:26):
that was kind of like a souped up golf cart,
like a golf cart that could go at an incline
and had you know, rugged tread on the wheels and
so you know, I mean the first couple of times
I was that that's kind that they're you know, trying
to help me out with this gator.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Yeah, that gear almost put me into labor.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I mean, it was like, is so stressful. I'd rather
them like hoist me up, you know when they like
rescue a horse, you know, you know, a horse. But
he always say they rescue a horse with the hell gut.
I would rather be pregnant, just rest you like a
horse up and down. I don't need the gator.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Just slide down a sling. I will hold to.
Speaker 6 (36:06):
It, yes, yes, yeah, So finally, I mean truly, I
don't know that I took more than two rides on
this gator, and uh, I said, no more gator for.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Me, and then my stomachs is open.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
To walk it. And I was like, I guess I am.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
You're like I dilated on it. Well.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Also, I couldn't go into labor and big Bear. I
mean I could, but it wasn't you know, I wasn't You.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Couldn't go into labor and take Bear on a mountain.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
But it takes like, I don't know how long to
get off the mountain. It was. You know, I was
a little stressed. I was a little stressed and if
I was losing my job.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
No, this is so stressful. You know what's funny is
I was watching this thinking about the fact that, like
you know, you did you didn't know if you were
going to come back the next season. So therefore, when
you're acting, I'm I'm thinking, oh, she knows she's gonna
lose her leg. He was an actress, like, and you didn't.
I did not. You did not know that that I
didn't leg injury was going to be what it was.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
No, because I didn't know if I was gonna if
if my character was that was where she was going
to meet her end was out there in the wilderness.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Let's talk about Callie.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Jerry and I were just going to be yeah, left
out there.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
Oh my gosh, I know, and Cally is and all
the Ben and Bailey stuff that's happening. But of course
the way and again acting their asses off, wonderful storyline,
hard to really focus on because you're worried about the
people that are in the wilderness that my diet.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Well, Callie's in such a good mood and she's so
happy and she's got the sexy time planned that every
time she was like I'm in law, I have laundrey,
I was like, no, Cally, no, I'm like yelling at
the screen. Don't.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
She is the whole thing where she foreshadows and she's
like it just takes one minute, I know, and everything
can change in your life. On the sunate what she
say about something with that expression with the dime, yeah
anything I.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Did a dime.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Yeah. It was like, oh, Kelly, so she's waiting for everybody,
she's waiting for her, she's waiting for Arizona to come home,
and she's gonna have this great Oh that's all land.
And then also you know Karev and Arizona's friendship again,
because I was thinking about the fact that it's not
like she was in the hospital system. She was never
(38:26):
an island right. There was Calli, there was Karrev, there
was the whole ecosystem of the hospital. But if you
put her next to the people who were there from
the very beginning, like Christina and Meredith and Derek and Sloane,
she's really not a part of that group.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
So in the wilderness she kind of was, you know,
left with Jerry.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
You and Jerry you and Jerry And.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
So I did really appreciate on Arizona's behalf. I did
appreciate when Karev is so mad at her and it
is like whatever, fuck her, and Callis liked, well, she
should be mad at you, and she's gonna be mad
at you and then she's gonna get over it. But
then he goes in a very coreerb way to leave
her the message to say like, I know you're mad
at me, and I know that you think I fucked up,
(39:08):
but you know you made me and it was your
belief in me that made me like I am and
I need to figure out if I'm something when you're
not there. And I thought that was so just in
a way that Krev does boils it down to you know,
could very well sound like an insult, but it's actually
very loving what he's saying.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Coming from him. It's all love. I did. I did.
There's a moment where like he's talking to he's talking
to Callie and he's like, I'm gonna call her, and
he calls and then he just like I was watching
and I've forgotten and I was like, get through to her,
get through, get through, and he just in the background
you can see him. He's even like a little out
(39:48):
of focus him hang up because he can't get through.
And it's like all these little moments of potential hope
where you were like, oh, they're gonna get rescued now,
and this is gonna happen, and it's just it all
adds into the horror of it all.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Oh yeah, yep.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
So then I did also remark that I think we're
like over the halfway mark when Meredith remembers Sola point,
did you hear the point where she's.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Like, have I through the episode?
Speaker 4 (40:18):
She's I mean, she's probably doing inventory of her life
and what is at stake, and she all of a
sudden says Sola. And again, because I'm not watching in
them in sequence, I was like, oh, they have a
kid and they have a kid, I mean Arizona, but
I mean I just it was I was I was
(40:40):
brought back to all like the just the domino effect
and all the consequences that are going to, you know,
come of.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
If they're not found.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Oh and then the Mark in Arizona. It's not the
first time that I've someone I've tried to pray someone alive.
By the way, this is something that I evidently do
as an actor. As a what I've just had multiple
times where I've prayed people back to life.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Who did you pray back to life in the show?
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
I just know that I didn't.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
In the episode, did you pray someone back to Mark?
Speaker 3 (41:25):
Mark? Mark?
Speaker 2 (41:26):
He's going yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Like I'm going.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
To meet Lexi. I'm gonna go and yeah, Arizona is like, no,
you're not, No, You're not. No. Oh, he says, Lexi's
waiting for me, and she's like no.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
I know, Sophia is waiting for you, and Kelly is
waiting for you, and you know they have a very
rocky relationship those two, and so it's kind of a
big deal. I remember it was a big deal for
her to say like, I'm waiting for you. And then
I was a little disoriented because I couldn't figure out
if it looked like he was laying on her lap.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
And I was like, isn't No, I didn't know he's
laying all the leg he was laying on the leg. No,
I didn't think he was laying on the lab. I
I when you said and I'm waiting for you to
it was it's hard to describe, honestly, like the feeling
of it, because it just it's so all of it
(42:10):
is so emotional. Yeah, and that line was like, oh,
another stop right in the.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
Heart by now.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
And then you go back to the hospital where again
Chief Hunt is just really cranky and grumpy, but also
realizing that he has to do this thing because now
now she's admitted to him that she's staying for him,
and he of course realizes she can't stay for him,
so then he fires her and he's all grumpy and
(42:39):
mean and fiery and she's like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Like that scene was so good. Absolutely, I will say it.
It's hard to compete with those scenes where you guys
are And that was the scene that stood out to
me that I was like, oh that, like that can
compet with these scenes because those scenes were so crazy.
(43:04):
It was so amazing. And she says son of a
bitch and she walks out and then she comes back.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
It was so when she comes back, she makes me
cry so hard because you can see on her faith
by the way, you don't forget in real life.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
She knew she wasn't coming back.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
I know that's hard.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
But when she comes to the.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
Door and you see when she comes back, I felt
from her it was so clear on her face that
she was grateful, relieved, sad, she was there were so
many things going through her character's mind that was like ugh.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
And then he hugs her because he knows.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
I think it's one of my favorite Kim scenes actually,
like I'd forgotten about.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
It's amazing in this episode's amazing.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
But oh oh, oh, we should talk about too, because
at first I was like, whoa wait, what's this cut?
They're going back and forth between the hospital and doing
it on hymn so you can see like how it
should be done. That was really cool that first cut away.
I was like, that's a weird cut, Like why are
we cutting like that? And then I was like, oh,
we're going back and forth.
Speaker 4 (44:11):
Genius, genius, super cool, super super cool.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Yeah, and then I sat there.
Speaker 4 (44:18):
So the episode kind of honestly doesn't end with some
huge bang.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
It sort of ends and there's no result.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
There's no again.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Remember go back to the table read where no one
knows what's gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (44:35):
We were all like and now like, no one had
any clues. And I do remember being told that the
writers were deliberately leaving the finale so that should they
need to wrap it up and say that any one
of the people.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
In the wilderness that they could, and so.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
You leave them at this like campfire and you have
the voice over and all that.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
How much do you remember? Did it like really take
you back if you haven't seen it ever, did it
really were you like, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
Yeah, yeah for sure. Yeah, yeah, all of it, all
of it. I remember all the face, where all the yeah,
where all the blood was, where with the jackets. I
remember the set.
Speaker 4 (45:24):
I remember they'd have to put these things on the
ground that would be constantly smoking.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
Why because the plane had just crashed.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
Oh oh oh, I understand. I was like, wait what,
oh yeah, do you remember seeing the set for the
first time? Like the airplane pieces and being like, oh
my god, it's really happening. Sometimes when you get to
see it in real life, you're like, shit.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
It was really. Yeah, it was very It was also
very hard because again I say again so much, please
cut out all many agains.
Speaker 4 (45:55):
I remember it personally being a very challenging time because
there I was so happy and pregnant and excited and
about to have a baby at the same time that
I knew that my job might be changing, and that
(46:20):
I was playing in my set of imaginary circumstances such
deep grief and fear and hysteria. And I do also
remember having a moment where I felt, really it was poppy.
Speaker 3 (46:37):
I was pregnant with Poppy. I felt I don't know,
I need to insert the right word. I'm not sure.
I felt guilty, I felt worried. I felt thoughtful. I
felt mindful.
Speaker 4 (46:48):
Of what all of that emotion was doing to the
little baby inside my meal.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
I was thinking, like the screaming even like I would
give me he be Gebi's pregnant.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
Yeah, there was no good way to make that all happen,
you know. That was that was just tough stuff. I then, anyway,
so I saw we finished.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
I finished the episode and then I sat there and
you know how your TV just goes on to the
next episode if you don't do anything. And episode nine,
the first episode, the first character.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
That you see as you Okay, so I have to
talk about this because this is it really made me laugh,
okay because I remember and I said this to Matt
because he saw the end of it with me, and
he was like, damn, such a good episode. And I said,
I remember all those years ago coming on and being
so excited for my first episode, and you know, all
(47:42):
the intro and I and I remember being almost confused
why we weren't immediately embraced as an intern class. You know,
we're new doctors, Like why aren't you guys all immediately
in love with us? And then I laughed to myself
and I thought, literally, there could not have been a
more annoying probably entrance of a character than me just
(48:09):
coming Everyone's expecting to like come back and find out
what happened with the plane crash, and here I am
coming out of the elevator with my little books and stuff, like,
you don't want to be the character that comes on
after the trauma of all these characters that have been
on the show for so long.
Speaker 4 (48:26):
Is this perhaps maybe a good segue into the tone
that was on set right around Burgergate.
Speaker 3 (48:34):
I don't know. I mean maybe just a little bit.
Speaker 4 (48:37):
Are we setting a little bit more context because now
we've identified Yes, that's right. I was the baby that
I had just had, was poppy, and I'd almost died
in a plane crash, and you took a picture of
meeting a burger.
Speaker 3 (48:53):
And you posted it. That's the important part.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
This is true. Yeah. No, it would be more annoying
to have, you know, a new actor on set that
is like, Hi, guys, tell us.
Speaker 3 (49:06):
Hey, guys, let's thanks, let's thanks Shanda for the burger truck.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
Listen to be honest. Let's be honest. We all needed
that burger truck. You guys needed that burger truck. No
one needed a burger more than Arizona Robin's.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
She just wanted to have her burger in peace.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
She want I get it, I do get it. I'll
give you, I'll give you. Yeah, have a minute to herself.
And instead I was like, thanks for the burger truck. Clappy. No, yeah,
it is annoying. Now in retrospect, I'm giving you a
little bit of props right now. It is annoying.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
Here's what The.
Speaker 4 (49:38):
Overall note is that I that I will I will
say this forever because it is true and it's very
easy to keep.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
Track of the truth.
Speaker 4 (49:48):
Every episode that I've ever done I'm grateful for, and
I know that it had a reason and a season.
Revisiting some of them is more enjoyable than others. And
this particular other episode, which I'm so happy that everyone
really loves, because I do think it has incredible things
in it.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
Personally, it was just a little bit more challenging. It
was challenging to do, and it was challenging to rewatch.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
I actually think it was genius though, to not reveal
in the premiere episode what had happened and to have
everybody really wait until episode two of season nine, because
you get to introduce all these new characters. Whether you
like us or not, you know we're going to be there.
But in episode two it was such it was so
(50:36):
shocking to go back and see what had happened, because
we really didn't know the fate of anybody and how
it had all ended until that episode.
Speaker 3 (50:47):
Yeah, but again, it was so it was so hard
that I remember. I mean, I hate to make this
like such a downer.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
It's not an upper episode is it's down I remember.
Speaker 4 (50:59):
Being like when when we came back and then because
Sloan didn't die in the woods, he died in two.
Speaker 3 (51:08):
So yeah, Sloane came back to then film his last scene,
and it was like, that's sad. It's all sad.
Speaker 2 (51:20):
It's all sad, you know, Yeah, we do sad. We
do sad really well.
Speaker 4 (51:25):
Arizon Our lost her leg I know, sorry I didn't not.
Let's not put that at the top of the list.
We lost Lexi, we lost did.
Speaker 3 (51:34):
We ever find that? What happened to Jerry? Where's Jerry?
Speaker 2 (51:37):
Did Jerry survive? Oh my god? So maybe you need
to I don't even want to. I think I'm just
gonna personally watch episode two because I need to. I
need to remember what happened. But this is kind of amazing.
Think about this. That was the season finale of eight,
and then the season finale of nine was the cheating.
I mean, these are fantastics back to back season finales.
Speaker 4 (51:58):
I know, I know, I know, And it's so funny.
It'll be for another I'll tell the story another time.
But remind me to tell you what. Whenever Shanda would
call me with really great storylines that she was cooking up,
I would always have the same response, I'll.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
Tell you what I'm not okay, okay, okay, we got
to know that.
Speaker 3 (52:19):
I'll tell you all. I'll tell you all what I
used to say.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
So not your not your favorite episode, but very necessary episode.
Speaker 3 (52:29):
Uh really appreciated all the high level.
Speaker 4 (52:36):
Storytelling and performances, but it's just, you know, an overall
grade of sadness.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
Yeah, no, it's I was I was not looking forward
to watching it. I was sad, but that was my homework.
I didn't want to be taken back there.
Speaker 4 (52:52):
What does it say about all of you that this
is in your top five that you wanted to hear
from us about.
Speaker 2 (52:59):
I know because it is. It is a brilliant episode.
It's brilliant and the yeah, it's everyone's fantastic. And I
think we have to do a shout out to the
crew too, because I'm sure nobody weren't harder in those
circumstances than that crew that are there from the beginning
(53:21):
to the end of the day, every single day out
there in the mountains, making that happen.
Speaker 3 (53:26):
Every department had to work.
Speaker 4 (53:29):
Ninety five times harder, everyone from crafty to camera to
sound to props to all of it.
Speaker 2 (53:38):
This is what we want to hear. We want to hear.
There's no way for you to be like, oh my god,
I just loved that week. It was like really fun.
Like nobody's that way. You would sound psychotic. I would
expect you to hate filming that week. It's it's you're
putting yourself through trauma and the storylines are not nice.
Speaker 3 (54:01):
Yeah. Yeah, And you know what, I also remember there
was a real feeling when we came back for season
nine because clearly we know the end of that story.
I did get my contract, did get re nude.
Speaker 4 (54:14):
When I came back for season nine, I felt pretty
strongly that there were there was a real division between
those who were in the woods and those.
Speaker 3 (54:25):
Who were not.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
I mean, I'm not kidding, yeah.
Speaker 3 (54:29):
Really, I mean, and you know, we didn't we didn't.
Speaker 4 (54:32):
We weren't there for you know, the blood, sweat and
tears that Kim gave or that Chandra gave and those scenes, like,
we weren't there for that, so we didn't see it.
But no matter what they did on some level, again,
it was sort of normal programming. It was what we
were used to doing, and what we did in the
Woods was so different and so just deeply challenging that
(54:58):
I think there was a real like we would refer
to it. There would be there would be times in
season nine where you know, whether it was Ellen and
I or or you know, Sandra and I, well, we'd
refer back to it.
Speaker 2 (55:09):
It would be, yeah, remember the woods.
Speaker 3 (55:12):
We would recall. We would recall being in the woods.
Speaker 2 (55:15):
Yeah. It was like it is like the season ninth
finale when you're like, you out there, you were out there.
It's like, I'm a new actor on the show. I'm
so excited to be there. You weren't there.
Speaker 4 (55:30):
We turned into like the Jack Nicholson a few Good
Men moments where.
Speaker 2 (55:33):
Like you you can't on that wall, you can't handle
the woods, you can't.
Speaker 3 (55:39):
Handle the woods. You don't want to think about me
being in the woods, but I have to be in
the woods.
Speaker 4 (55:45):
All the story that just populated the entirety of season nine.
Speaker 2 (55:49):
I know, and you're like, and April and all those
guys are at dinner.
Speaker 3 (55:55):
And yeah, they're talking about there's slow roasted duck.
Speaker 2 (55:58):
There's slow roasted duck did like before we go. I
have to say I did like the web. It was
like I've got one piece of advice and he's like,
oh wait, all wait, I'll wait, I'll wait. I'm like,
what was it gonna be?
Speaker 3 (56:11):
Dance? Why was kreb at that dinner?
Speaker 2 (56:14):
He must have been a resident. He must have still
been a residence. In fact, that's why, well he must
have been, or because that's why they were waiting.
Speaker 3 (56:25):
Also, Kepner were not the same resident class as.
Speaker 2 (56:30):
I know, but they came in as transfers from another hospital.
Speaker 3 (56:35):
So they were supposed to be the same age.
Speaker 2 (56:36):
I know, And I never think of them that way either.
I always think of the other crew as like further ahead.
Speaker 4 (56:43):
All right, the one for those of you in our
crew that likes to get really forensic about things.
Speaker 3 (56:48):
I want an analysis.
Speaker 4 (56:50):
Yeah, we need to know the braindo how it's possible
that they're all in the same class, and then their
birthdays and their fictional pages.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
Yes, we need to know out all right. My request
to the crew is the next one that you guys
vote for, can we make it less traumatic for us
to rewatch? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (57:15):
Yeah, but I don't know if it gets to be
the musical episode, because that's a different kind of.
Speaker 2 (57:19):
Happy, that's a different kind of trauma for you. It's
a different kind of trauma for you.
Speaker 3 (57:23):
All Right. So at the end of the day, I'm
glad we did it.
Speaker 2 (57:28):
I'm glad we did it. Usually when we say it's
the end of the episode, I'm a little bit sad.
But today I'm a little bit happy. I'm gonna go
lay down and cry.
Speaker 3 (57:39):
For season eight, do you never see you never again?
Speaker 5 (57:45):
Let's call it the end of the episode.
Speaker 3 (58:00):
Yeah,
Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camil Lunnington,
an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Well, Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello Call It crew, and welcome
to the most depressing episode Call It What It Is.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I'm already in a bad mood. And I saw that.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Episode twenty four of season eight, the season finale, was
you know, in the top five of things that the
crew wanted us to recap.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I was so excited.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
I was THRILLI I couldn't wait. I was like, Oh
my gosh, that's great. So much happened in that episode.
This is gonna be so dramatic, and oh, it's gonna
be so much fun to look back on that work.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
And then and then I watched it.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, when was the last time you watched that episode?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Well, while I was rewatching it, I was reminded that
it turns out I never did.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Oh you've never seen it.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Well, after watching and I now know why I didn't
watch it.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
So I haven't seen it since I started the show.
So this is like thirteen years ago, and I had
forgotten all the other parts of it, and probably for
a reason, for a reason, I was horrified. I thought
I would watch it over coffee.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
This morning.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I was like, oh, great, Coomel, why would I can
do that? Just the worst way to set up my day.
Let's start with a table read.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Well again, flood of emotions. It was so depressing, the
sad stable read of all time.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Because okay, so here, sorry, in all seriousness, the thing
that I'm going to say that is maybe controversial, maybe not,
maybe just reporting from the front lines of my truth.
This episode was really really sad. It was really sad.
I found the whole thing very depressing.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Well, they're wearing a lot of lols.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I didn't like it at all.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
No, no, I don't like it either.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I didn't like this episode. You don't need to watch
it again.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
No, I never want to see this episode again.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Was the first and last day that I saw episode
twenty four of season eight.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Okay, let's start at the table read.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Even though you know your television shows, your favorites are
the ones you watch, seem like it's just a foregone
conclusion that those characters are going to come back every season.
We are as actors contract players, which means that our
contract is for that season. So every season that's a
new season, we actually have to get re hired.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
On some level when you finish.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
The season, no promises, no guarantees that you're coming back.
You're the last episode of any given season.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Really could be your last.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
In this particular case, again, we will check Jessica's facts.
My memory was that there were a lot of people
up for contract renegotiations, which wasn't just getting wasn't just
you were getting picked up, and you were actually renegotiating
the price that you get paid per episode in this year.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
It's my memory that the people that were sort of.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Hearing the script for the first time at the table read,
but also understanding that they may not come back the
next year, ye were myself, Eric Dane. It's my memory
that Lexi knew she Kyler knew she was leaving.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I'm not in this episode, so I'm really truly watching
it as a fan. Yeah did you know that? She
was going? Yeah, oh you did, Okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
And it was super sad.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
And also a sneak attack that actually made me really
even more sad. And she absolutely crushed the episode and
I was weeping.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Kim, Kim, I mean, Kim, I mean, I was a puddle.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
So the episode table read was it was heavy, it
was a heavy table read.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
It was. It was full of like.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Uncertainty in terms of could was this your last table read?
And then I do believe again I completely cross memories here,
but I do believe that Kim did know that was
her last little did she know she'd.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Come back right, so she thought she was leaving.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
And yeah, it was just heavy heavy.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Were you guys allowed access to the script before the
table read?
Speaker 4 (04:59):
No, I mean you got to table you know, you
get to table read time, and there'd be lunch out
and your scripts would usually be sitting it. You'd grab
a script or it would be sitting in your little spot,
and so I think a lot of people would kind
of like sneaky snake, They'd like, you know, look, yeah,
but honestly, there's not usually that much time. You're certainly
not going to read the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
So now we get access to scripts ahead of time,
but back then we we were reading them is sometimes
for the very first oftentimes for the first time in
the table read. Oh oh my god. Okay, so that was.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
The table reading. Those were table readvice.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Let's talk about actually like filming location getting up there.
Do I remember you telling me you guys filmed a
big Bear. Is that where you went?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
So we also were not filming on our stage as
we were filming in Big Beer. Well okay, so again
I was watching it for the first time. I forgot
that there was this flip flop. So you start the
episode and you're kind of like, where am I right?
You're like, yeah, which, what are we on here? What
are we watching? What's happening?
Speaker 4 (06:03):
And you're having this flashback of Weber talking to the
inter about you know, and you're seeing baby all of them, right,
like baby, great, baby crib. You see all these babies,
all these baby surgeons, and you're like, wait, what's going on?
And then it's juxtaposed to the wilderness and this horrible screaming,
(06:28):
this horrible screaming.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Who was doing that horrible screaming that was so high
pitched and annoying and awful?
Speaker 4 (06:37):
That was me?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
I was doing the horrible screaming.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
So I realized it was your horrible screaming. It was
kind of quickly and then I went into actromode and
I'm like, how long you actually have to scream for?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
I had to.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Scream for so long, and I remember that it was
again I was I am remembering that it was written
that my screaming was meant to be horrible. It was
meant to be you could you did not want to
listen to it.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
It was so horrible. It was so repellent.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
It was like it was it was baked in the
into the words, into the description that this was the
kind of scream that was not like, it wasn't even
I'm feeling pain. It wasn't even it was It was
just the most annoying, incessant, repetitive screaming, and it was
high pitched, and all these things add to that.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
I was very pregnant.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I know, I'm thinking about this for you. First off,
screaming for that long acting is so exhausting physically, and
so I I literally was like, damn, how long was
she screaming for? Because there are a lot of cuts
in those opening scenes, and then you know, Sandra's like.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Yet, yeah, Christina is so good in that. Christina is
so good.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
So yeah, No, I'm doing a lot of I know,
and I have a lot of I have a lot
of thoughts about I mean, I don't even know how
to stay on track here and telling the story.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I think that we organically like have it go where
it takes you. I don't you know, like I think
that we it's a messy episode, so let's be messy.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
So we know that we know that it's we know
that we know that some people are not going to
make it out of this episode alive. Literally, We know
that some actors aren't going to make it back to
the show literally, and that's where we start this episode.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
And we know we're filming on location, which we never do.
So there's a lot of you know, there's a lot
of different things that we just don't normally do. It's
not part of our usual programming, and we're all a
little bit not stuck in our ways.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
We're just used to our normal programming, which is, you know,
we we we live in Los Angeles, we work in
Los Angeles. A lot of us have families, and so
going on location meant leaving our families living in a hotel.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
And then also it was.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
It was the last so of the season, which back
in the day, which you don't even do anymore, I
mean nobody does anymore, is shoot twenty four episodes.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
So you're at the end of your race. Like if
you've ever run a marathon, you're at mile twenty six,
you got point two to go.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
You are exhausted, everything has been taken out of you,
so we get this really big episode. I do feel
that it's important to say something and it is positive,
so I'm going to jump in there with the positive.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
It's a beautifully written script. It's a beautifully written script,
and it's a tough script.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
And for a show that I think, you know, gets
a lot of attention for being obviously very emotional but
also having sort of these equal parts emotion emotional and
heartbreaking but also heart filling, this was really like a
very brave show to produce because it was it took.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
A lot out of everyone.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
But I do think it was really well, you know,
put together, especially because you have to go back and
forth between the wilderness and the hospital, and the wilderness
is genuinely You're not watching you know, people who you've
just met a second ago in a life for death circumstance.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
You're watching you know series regulars that you you were.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Invested in their whole lives in life and death circumstances.
And it wasn't I was actually it's snuck up on me.
I didn't realize that Lexi dies so quickly. I mean
she dies in the first like half hour.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
No, she died because I stopped. Okay, so I was
watching this morning Matt came in and he came in
literally at that moment when she died, and I paused
it and it said fifteen minutes. He's like, this is
the first fifteen minutes, and I was like, yes. We
were also like this is incredible writing because there's a
(10:46):
whole other show still had so much still to go,
and they packed that horrible punch fifteen minutes in where
you're already devastated and then you're like, what where is
this going now? But I want to know how long
you were actually having to scream for? Like how long
was that?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
And I was very I wasn't just kind of pregnant.
I was I'm probably shooting that in the beginning of May,
and I had Poppy in June, so I was a
good you know, seven and a half eight months pregnant.
I was very pregnant, which is why I'm always covered
in a jacket too. But I'm screaming for you know.
I mean, I remember just we would just every setup
we did, I think that they would get like a
(11:25):
wild track of me just screaming. But so when when
you realize that we've had this plane crash, we then
kind of like the show shows you that there's different
sectors of plane crash, right, so there's there's you know,
Christina and Meredith. And also I'm just going to say
everyone acted their asses off.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
In this episode.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Everyone was incredible. There's a lot of times when I
watched the show and I'm like, so incredibly proud to
be part of it. And after that episode, I was like, damn,
raise anatomy in the house.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Oh how about that first shot on Meredith's face and
she just lets you know everything that's happening without even knowing, yes,
And then Christina comes in and then I'm screaming. Then
you you don't know where. Then you realize you need
to find people, and the people you need to find
are Alexi and Derek. And then you hear that banging
and Lexi's grabbed the seat belt and is clanging it
(12:25):
against the side of the airplane that's broken off and
landed on top of her.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
So then they find her.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
But then you also establish that I'm there, and I'm
there with Jerry Pilot.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Jerry, I know, I love Pilot Jerry, and it's a
wonderful actor.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Most of my time with him.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
And you watch Arizona go through this weird hysteria and
hystericalness where she starts laughing and you're like, why are
you laughing?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
And then Christina is having to.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Get her shoulder popped back in because now we found Sloan,
and Sloan of course is going to go over to
where Alexi is. But then Meredith still hasn't found Derek.
And then you find Derek and then you see his
mangled hand.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Popping out from the wreckage.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
It's offing, not not the surgeon of the surgeons, like,
just save the hand. The head can go even, but
not the hand as a surgeon. Let's talk about because
(13:42):
it's a really gruesome episode. Okay, let's talk about your
lag dude. That reveal is is fantastic. What exactly are
we seeing there?
Speaker 4 (13:56):
We're seeing like some flank steak, is what you're seeing.
You're seeing like some flank steak that was covering some
very well made and artistically produced and then overseen by
our most divine Linda Kline bone and then they dressed
(14:17):
the bone with them.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
In my memory, steak, it was like different pieces of steak,
and then we had the blood and then.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
And then I'm I pick up my leg and move
it no, because it was yeah, it was broken.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
But then you hear her trying to be a doctor
for Jerry.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
I know, I'm not a very good doctor. She basically
just tells them to like not move too much.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Actually, let's talk about that really quick, because I that's
something that I really think is so great that our
show does, is where our doctors are doctoring on themselves
or each other at the same time, which just happens
throughout the whole episode, right, Yeah, And I just think
it's such a fun element to write for in the
(15:08):
chaos of everything. I want to know really quick, just
like facts again, I know we're like skipping around. How
many days were you up there filming? Do you remember
a hundred million? It felt like a week, ninety nine days.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
I think we were there. I think our whole crew.
I mean, I'm guessing that our whole crew was up
there for some period of ten days. I definitely remember
it's ten days. It felt like it, for sure. We
were there, definitely there more.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Than a week.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Yeah, there was a weekend in there. Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Okay, yeah, no, that I.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Mean really off topic. But I remember Big Bear's kind
of a place that families go, and I think some
couples go out there to they ca romantic whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I remember my room had a really really large jacuzzie
bathtub in the middle of it. I remember being pregnant
and being like, well.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
In the middle of it, Oh my god, like you
got the honeymoon, sweet, Yeah, I got the honeymoon. Oh
my god, I love it so much. Okay, okay, yeah,
so at least you've got to go back to the
honeymoon sweet have your middle of the room jacuzzie.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
It was so Yeah, I thought it was interesting because again,
well I hadn't I thought it was interesting because I
hadn't watched episode twenty three, so I was really coming
into it cold.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Yeah, but there was.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
And you're still working with him every day, and it's
gonna seem like I pick on him. I don't mean to.
It's just that Kevin is so serious. He just comes
in with so much seriousness. He is the most serious
doctor on that show.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
He is very But you know what it is, because
I I.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
So he's like extra serious.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I think it's the military edge, right.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Oh that's right.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yeah, it's the it's the military. It's woven into the
character m although I will say that like in later seasons,
now he's there's a lot of there's more humor and
funny moments for Owen Hunt. But back then, oh yeah,
and especially this episode, Oh.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
My god, Chief Kevin is just.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Like he's chief in But when we come back.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
To the hospital, we are confronted with not just Kevin mkid,
we are confronted with Chief Kevin McKidd.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yes, which I had forgotten.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I hadn't watched the previous episodes. I'm just watching this
episode and I forgot where they are in their messy
arc of a relationship, and I feel like I need
to go back to remember, like are they were they
semi together at this that were they on the They're
on the outs right right?
Speaker 3 (17:57):
So I agree. I also was like, where are we
in this?
Speaker 4 (17:59):
But ye watched the episode, you realize he's just lost
Christina and Christina because remember he paused, he didn't say
it quick enough that he wouldn't be right. Yes, he's
lost her because she's going to go and do other things.
And Teddy meanwhile, has fallen in love with Scott Foley's character.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
So Teddy has lost the love of her life because he.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Died in ther that they're working in, Yes, and so
they're now what their friendship is replete and it is
as really.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
To go back to the fact that they started in
the military comrades and best friends. And so that's why
she feels like she can't leave him, is because he's
already being left by the love of his life. She's
lost the love of her life, and so she needs
to hold on to whatever piece of normalcy she can
and or.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
A sad fairy tale, right.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Which is that her husband is alive halls of his
hospital and when she leaves it, she will have lost
every piece of him.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
It's so that it is, and it is written so well.
And I have to say, when I was watching the
scene when she's explaining why she wants to stay, I
was thinking, she's acting in just a mask and you're
only seeing her eyes, and that's how you know someone's
like just a fantastic actor, because her eyes said it
all everything, And I was like, damn, kim acting her
(19:25):
butt off in this scene. Did you find the cuts
back and forth like jarring a little bit?
Speaker 4 (19:33):
I was going to say that that's the thing is that,
so you leave the wilderness, you come into the hospital,
you get Chief Hunt.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
You know, he means business. He's so serious.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Now you're in the you're in the residence lounge and
that Jesse. I mean he was right. I mean, I
guess he has he has reason to complain. How many
times did his shirt come off on the show? Why
was he always changing?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
You know what? I don't know if she that he
needed to change my shirts many times a day.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Multiple if the camera came around the corner, he should
take off his shirt.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Evidently he's got to change it. Yeah, he's got to
change his shirt.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
So he's taking off his shirt. Keviner's coming in. I
was to talk about, like where are we in the journey?
I was like, where are they again?
Speaker 4 (20:19):
So I had to remind myself a little bit. But
now we're back to the wilderness, and now Christina and
Sloan are at or have found Lexi and they're like, okay.
I thought it was so crazy when Christina said run
it down for me, but she's talking about running a.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Test for her for herself, Like, what's wrong? You do
the bodies here?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
I know that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
It's like the leaning into the fact that their doctors
and they can do that for themselves is just it
adds so much fire to like the episode.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
And then you see the characters at different parts of
the Wilderness journey, but you see all of them go
through through this stage of grief, which is bargaining, right,
So Sloan starts bargaining. He's like, I'm gonna it's gonna
be okay because I'm gonna You're gonna live. You're not,
oh sorry. And denial he's like, you're gonna be fine,
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Everything's gonna be okay.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
You're not dying. And Lexi knows she's dying. Lexi's fully
aware that she's dying. O.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
God, I truly needed that. This is gonna sound really bad.
I needed it to be over because I knew it
was coming and that I love you and I'm dying
and hold my hand. I was like, I'm not holding
her hand, and he doesn't want to hold her hand,
and then he ends up holding her. He tries to
lift the plane off her again, and then he goes
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and when he holds her hand again, I just like
I could not stand it. I just wanted it to
be done. I was like, this is torture.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
This was my note, it's my favorite. Mark Slanci never.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Oh yeah, yeah, I would say, I would say.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
So.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I wonder how many times they had to do that scene.
I know you probably were. I was there, Oh you were.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Everybody was talking about it. Everybody was talking about how
heartbreaking it was. It was very emotional when.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Kyler had her last take, like the last word, the
last take, and you know, Eric was really crushing it
and just doing like giving her everything and she was
giving him everything, and they were so they really had
gotten to the point where I think in Storyland we
all really invested in them being the meant to be.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Yeah, and you also forget that, well, you don't forget,
but you're you're running so many stories at the same
time in your head. Is that.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Well, Meredith is so obsessed with finding Derek, which of
course is warranted. Christina, in coming back for supplies, sees
Meredith and because she's just seen Lexi, she's like, Meredith, you.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Needed to come, Yeah, you got you got.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
To come see because she knows she's dying. So then Meredith.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
And when she finds out after that commercial break, and
her wailing and weeping is you know a little bit
like Arizona's whaling and weeping.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
It's just like from her, it's a whole other general.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yeah, like it's that deep. I just yeah, that scene
is so iconic. And then the fact that Meredith didn't
she arrives when she's already passed and she didn't get
to say goodbye, and it's just and we had.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
To film it's worth mentioning.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
We had to film the outside stuff and the wilderness
stuff and the big bear stuff so much differently than
we normally film our show because this is a guest technical.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
But in our regular show, we you know, our crew
and all the all the departments, every single one from
props to camera to sound. Everybody knows our sets and
it's a real program. They know where all the things go. Oh,
they know how to do the thing. And we were
all in completely unfamiliar territory.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
So we were not laying down, you know, Dolly, We
were not you know, recording sound in the same way
because we were competing with birds chirping and airplanes flying
and sounds that we don't normally compete with, and so everything.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
About it was so much more. My memory was like it.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Was raw and it was honestly probably influenced by the storytelling.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
It was painful. It was like painful. It was kind
of aggravating.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
The light would change and then all of a sudden
they'd have to add things and then you'd have to
wait and you were covered in blood.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
That was the other thing I was gonna say. The blood.
People don't understand, like the blood's all sticky. You're probably
in the dirt with the like that fake blood is
like glue, and it does get aggravating to have it
on you.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
So this is the this is the one funny story
that I have from this episode. We shoot the episode
and in order to get the blood and stuff, and
Arizona had quite a lot of stuff on our face.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Yeah, you would, and in her hair and you would
have to get or the best way to get it
at was shaving cream.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
So you'd get shaving cream and you'd just lather it
up all over and there was something about it that
would remove that the cookie stuff and.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
So and then a hot towel. So when we were
shooting and you just go back to your hotel room
at night, you know, you would take back your shaving
cream and your hotels and you'd go home and you'd
do it in your hotel room and you didn't see
anybody else, and it was done the last day.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
We finished, and we all got in our cars to
go home. And I have said this before, and I
think probably even more so in this case.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
You go a little especially after like a highly emotional
scenes or content, you kind of get nuh when you
get in your car and you kind of don't want
to talk to anyone. You just kind of zone no
and big bears on a big mountain.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
And so I drive home. I'm so pregnant, I'm numb.
We've finished this long, hard shoot and I'm driving and
I finally get down to the We get to the
freeway and I'm driving on the freeway and I hit
a little bit of traffic and I'm sitting in traffic
and I'm looking out the window and I'm like processing
and everything else. And I looked to my left because
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there's a car there, and.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Don't say you got recognized.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
This woman turns locks eyes with me, and her face
registers what I look like, which is a like I'm
in a horror movie, like I've got blood everywhere.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
I'd been completely I mean, she did not know what
to do.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I mean I couldn't hear because she was in a car.
But it was like she screamed, Slash said like do
you need help? Slash, And there was nothing I could
actually say.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Back that would be comforting to her, right, like besides
rolling down my window asking her to roll down hers,
and stopping in the middle of a freeway to say,
oh no, no, don't worry.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
I'm on a TV show.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Which filmed I was just in a plane crash and
it's I'm totally fine. My legs come off, but it's like,
it's totally fine. That's really funny.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
So that woman is out there in the world somewhere
today and she has some story about and it probably
is sad, right she probably imagines that, yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Sad person. But I'm here to tell you that if
you ever hear this, it was not sad. It was
just me coming home from work.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
God, I can't believe you drove all.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Like that anyways.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Okay, so we go back to the hospital. Kim is
crushing it. She's doing all that she's doing. I love
the scene that comes when we come back to the
World with the Woods again with Christina and Meredith, where
Christina is so over it and she is like, I
am over the guns to my head and I'm over
business and as soon as I get home, I am
getting the hell away from Seattle, Grace, Mercy, Death, Death,
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I'm out of here.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
That was brilliant. I also we didn't talk about this,
but I loved at the beginning. God, Sandra's is so
good in everything. I loved at the beginning how she
(28:30):
was obsessed with her shoe.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yeah, where's my shoe?
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Where's my shoe? I loved that that was like part
of her chaos makes sense.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
To me the weird way, like when you can't control anything, No, it.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Does, it totally does, so silly. I thought it was
fantastic writing.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
And then I also love when she said the whole
thing about when she was like, because Meredith is still
looking at her like she's her person and she's gonna
have some you know, some sage answers of things or
figure it out, and she's like, I have.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
PTSD and I'm not related. I'm not reliable.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
Yeah no, yeah, yeah yeah, But she's still in the trauma.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Like she's saying, yeah, I have PTSD, but she's actually
in the TS part.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
There's no TRD.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
There's so much I know, there's so many elements to like,
so many people's journey in this episode. It really by
the way, I think the whole episode's like forty two minutes,
and it's unreal what you guys pack into that. I do.
I found it super jarring, the back and forth between
the hospital and the airplane. And I think that it
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works though, because you're never with you guys long enough
to sort of get comfortable in your chaos and trauma.
You're thrown back into the hospital. So by the time
you're back with you guys, it feels like a slap
in the face.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Well yeah, because you go from you go from them
using a safety pin to close Derek's wound to Weber
and the o R being like, you kids jazzed about dinner.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Oh okay, well let's let's talk about that. Because I
was a resident, I don't remember ever having a duck dinner.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
You didn't get a duck dinner.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
I didn't dare Yeah, I'm wondering where my steak dinner was.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Well, maybe Krap talked you out of it, because his
next line was I'll still, I'll give you ten bucks
to stab me in the face right now.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
This is true. Maybe maybe Joe was told to stay
home in order to take out This is totally possible.
Let's talk about Kapner and Avery.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Oh gosh, I'm in which part?
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Well, let's talk. First off, I feel like I really
missed our chemistry on the show.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
It really I miss like they looked like babies.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
He did look like little babies. I missed our chemistry
on the show.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Wease are you in right now?
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Five hundred?
Speaker 3 (31:00):
No?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
But really twenty we're about to go into twenty two.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Okay, so that was season eight. It was a very
long time ago.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yeah, that is a very long time fourteen eighteen years ago?
Fourteen yeah, thirteen, Oh yeah, no, it's a really long
time ago. Can we talk about their I was wondering
where they were in their relationship, and I got like
ap when she started talking about being happy.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
M hmm.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
And then they'd had sex, and the whole virgin thing
forgot about that, and.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
She really liked having sex with him, but she wasn't happy.
She wasn't a virgin anymore, and.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
She didn't know who she was. I, you know, someone say,
she feels her word.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
So now she wasn't even like the dot she was.
I know, she wasn't a virgin.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
I thought. I just thought it was. I thought Sarah
did such a good job of that.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Always does such a good job. They super look like babies.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I know, I know. Anyway, Okay, okay, let's go back
to the horror.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
S know, and right before you go into that scene,
which is so tender and sweet and honest. And both
of them, I mean, Jesse and Sarah were always really
good at being honest with each other in their storytelling.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Like they both showed up.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
They were very it was simple and it was clear,
and it was honest and so and you lean into
that as a viewer, you're like, yes, tell me more,
because they had super high arching storylines, right, I mean,
she's saying things like I'm not a virgin anymore and
you're my best friend, and they're big things she's talking about,
but she's making them so simple and so relatable that
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you and he's really listening and it's you know, it's
so great.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
I do have to say, also, when you what one
second on that note that when you come onto the
show with your intern class, there is a bond that
happens with that intern class if those actors are able
to sort of stay around long enough with you, because
sometimes you know on Grays, you know, we have an
interurn has to leave and this happens to the other intern.
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And I think that for Sarah and Jessee coming on
at the same time as that class, like they would
just bond in a way that you do see in
other classes too. But that chemistry just sticks around with you,
regardless of like romantic chemistry, Like the intern chemistry sticks
around with you. And I was just reminded of that
(33:25):
watching it.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Right before you go to that scene I have in
my notes that I was watching.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
I also saw or noticed that Arizona was kind of
on her own with Jerry, Like, yeah, she was not
part of the Meredith, Christina Derek, and she wasn't part
of the Lexi Sloan. I mean, we tire back in
at the end with Sloan, but she really was kind
(33:54):
of on her own, and I felt so bad for her,
felt so bad for her, just like with that, and
you know, nobody it wasn't wrong that they weren't, you know,
ministering to her. They were all bleeding out right, But
really you didn't know how bad it was for her.
(34:15):
You know, you see her coughing up a little blood
and you see the bone, but you're not you're not
really understanding what's going on. And of course, now that
we do know what ended up happening, I mean, listen,
she she gets to live, and that's a really huge thing.
And she's in big trouble. I mean she's in super
dupertuper duper big trouble.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Can I tell him my note on that? Yeah, I
you're going to laugh. What it's pretty on brand because
I'm a little slothy. And so I was watching. I
was like, Jessica got to sit the whole time, and
I was like, I would have liked that. I like
that you were sitting, especially pregnant. I'm like wondering if
they sort of did it on purpose. You couldn't have
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been climbing up and down the hills and there seven
months pregnant. I'm like, I would have had a little
pillow yeah under me.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Oh gosh, they had this.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Okay, so we would shoot down in this one spot
there was we shot at the bottom of this hill.
It was kind of like a ravine where it was
a little flat where the plane was that Jerry and
I were sitting at. And of course I'm seven and
a half eight months pregnant. Nobody wants me walking up
and down that. But the only way to get around
that was to get on this thing called the gator
(35:26):
that was kind of like a souped up golf cart,
like a golf cart that could go at an incline
and had you know, rugged tread on the wheels and
so you know, I mean the first couple of times
I was that that's kind that they're you know, trying
to help me out with this gator.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Yeah, that gear almost put me into labor.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I mean, it was like, is so stressful. I'd rather
them like hoist me up, you know when they like
rescue a horse, you know, you know, a horse. But
he always say they rescue a horse with the hell gut.
I would rather be pregnant, just rest you like a
horse up and down. I don't need the gator.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Just slide down a sling. I will hold to.
Speaker 6 (36:06):
It, yes, yes, yeah, So finally, I mean truly, I
don't know that I took more than two rides on
this gator, and uh, I said, no more gator for.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Me, and then my stomachs is open.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
To walk it. And I was like, I guess I am.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
You're like I dilated on it. Well.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Also, I couldn't go into labor and big Bear. I
mean I could, but it wasn't you know, I wasn't You.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Couldn't go into labor and take Bear on a mountain.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
But it takes like, I don't know how long to
get off the mountain. It was. You know, I was
a little stressed. I was a little stressed and if
I was losing my job.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
No, this is so stressful. You know what's funny is
I was watching this thinking about the fact that, like
you know, you did you didn't know if you were
going to come back the next season. So therefore, when
you're acting, I'm I'm thinking, oh, she knows she's gonna
lose her leg. He was an actress, like, and you didn't.
I did not. You did not know that that I
didn't leg injury was going to be what it was.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
No, because I didn't know if I was gonna if
if my character was that was where she was going
to meet her end was out there in the wilderness.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Let's talk about Callie.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Jerry and I were just going to be yeah, left
out there.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
Oh my gosh, I know, and Cally is and all
the Ben and Bailey stuff that's happening. But of course
the way and again acting their asses off, wonderful storyline,
hard to really focus on because you're worried about the
people that are in the wilderness that my diet.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Well, Callie's in such a good mood and she's so
happy and she's got the sexy time planned that every
time she was like I'm in law, I have laundrey,
I was like, no, Cally, no, I'm like yelling at
the screen. Don't.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
She is the whole thing where she foreshadows and she's
like it just takes one minute, I know, and everything
can change in your life. On the sunate what she
say about something with that expression with the dime, yeah
anything I.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Did a dime.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Yeah. It was like, oh, Kelly, so she's waiting for everybody,
she's waiting for her, she's waiting for Arizona to come home,
and she's gonna have this great Oh that's all land.
And then also you know Karev and Arizona's friendship again,
because I was thinking about the fact that it's not
like she was in the hospital system. She was never
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an island right. There was Calli, there was Karrev, there
was the whole ecosystem of the hospital. But if you
put her next to the people who were there from
the very beginning, like Christina and Meredith and Derek and Sloane,
she's really not a part of that group.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
So in the wilderness she kind of was, you know,
left with Jerry.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
You and Jerry you and Jerry And.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
So I did really appreciate on Arizona's behalf. I did
appreciate when Karev is so mad at her and it
is like whatever, fuck her, and Callis liked, well, she
should be mad at you, and she's gonna be mad
at you and then she's gonna get over it. But
then he goes in a very coreerb way to leave
her the message to say like, I know you're mad
at me, and I know that you think I fucked up,
(39:08):
but you know you made me and it was your
belief in me that made me like I am and
I need to figure out if I'm something when you're
not there. And I thought that was so just in
a way that Krev does boils it down to you know,
could very well sound like an insult, but it's actually
very loving what he's saying.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Coming from him. It's all love. I did. I did.
There's a moment where like he's talking to he's talking
to Callie and he's like, I'm gonna call her, and
he calls and then he just like I was watching
and I've forgotten and I was like, get through to her,
get through, get through, and he just in the background
you can see him. He's even like a little out
(39:48):
of focus him hang up because he can't get through.
And it's like all these little moments of potential hope
where you were like, oh, they're gonna get rescued now,
and this is gonna happen, and it's just it all
adds into the horror of it all.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Oh yeah, yep.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
So then I did also remark that I think we're
like over the halfway mark when Meredith remembers Sola point,
did you hear the point where she's.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Like, have I through the episode?
Speaker 4 (40:18):
She's I mean, she's probably doing inventory of her life
and what is at stake, and she all of a
sudden says Sola. And again, because I'm not watching in
them in sequence, I was like, oh, they have a
kid and they have a kid, I mean Arizona, but
I mean I just it was I was I was
(40:40):
brought back to all like the just the domino effect
and all the consequences that are going to, you know,
come of.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
If they're not found.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Oh and then the Mark in Arizona. It's not the
first time that I've someone I've tried to pray someone alive.
By the way, this is something that I evidently do
as an actor. As a what I've just had multiple
times where I've prayed people back to life.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Who did you pray back to life in the show?
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
I just know that I didn't.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
In the episode, did you pray someone back to Mark?
Speaker 3 (41:25):
Mark? Mark?
Speaker 2 (41:26):
He's going yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Like I'm going.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
To meet Lexi. I'm gonna go and yeah, Arizona is like, no,
you're not, No, You're not. No. Oh, he says, Lexi's
waiting for me, and she's like no.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
I know, Sophia is waiting for you, and Kelly is
waiting for you, and you know they have a very
rocky relationship those two, and so it's kind of a
big deal. I remember it was a big deal for
her to say like, I'm waiting for you. And then
I was a little disoriented because I couldn't figure out
if it looked like he was laying on her lap.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
And I was like, isn't No, I didn't know he's
laying all the leg he was laying on the leg. No,
I didn't think he was laying on the lab. I
I when you said and I'm waiting for you to
it was it's hard to describe, honestly, like the feeling
of it, because it just it's so all of it
(42:10):
is so emotional. Yeah, and that line was like, oh,
another stop right in the.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
Heart by now.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
And then you go back to the hospital where again
Chief Hunt is just really cranky and grumpy, but also
realizing that he has to do this thing because now
now she's admitted to him that she's staying for him,
and he of course realizes she can't stay for him,
so then he fires her and he's all grumpy and
(42:39):
mean and fiery and she's like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Like that scene was so good. Absolutely, I will say it.
It's hard to compete with those scenes where you guys
are And that was the scene that stood out to
me that I was like, oh that, like that can
compet with these scenes because those scenes were so crazy.
(43:04):
It was so amazing. And she says son of a
bitch and she walks out and then she comes back.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
It was so when she comes back, she makes me
cry so hard because you can see on her faith
by the way, you don't forget in real life.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
She knew she wasn't coming back.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
I know that's hard.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
But when she comes to the.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
Door and you see when she comes back, I felt
from her it was so clear on her face that
she was grateful, relieved, sad, she was there were so
many things going through her character's mind that was like ugh.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
And then he hugs her because he knows.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
I think it's one of my favorite Kim scenes actually,
like I'd forgotten about.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
It's amazing in this episode's amazing.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
But oh oh, oh, we should talk about too, because
at first I was like, whoa wait, what's this cut?
They're going back and forth between the hospital and doing
it on hymn so you can see like how it
should be done. That was really cool that first cut away.
I was like, that's a weird cut, Like why are
we cutting like that? And then I was like, oh,
we're going back and forth.
Speaker 4 (44:11):
Genius, genius, super cool, super super cool.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Yeah, and then I sat there.
Speaker 4 (44:18):
So the episode kind of honestly doesn't end with some
huge bang.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
It sort of ends and there's no result.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
There's no again.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Remember go back to the table read where no one
knows what's gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (44:35):
We were all like and now like, no one had
any clues. And I do remember being told that the
writers were deliberately leaving the finale so that should they
need to wrap it up and say that any one
of the people.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
In the wilderness that they could, and so.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
You leave them at this like campfire and you have
the voice over and all that.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
How much do you remember? Did it like really take
you back if you haven't seen it ever, did it
really were you like, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
Yeah, yeah for sure. Yeah, yeah, all of it, all
of it. I remember all the face, where all the yeah,
where all the blood was, where with the jackets. I
remember the set.
Speaker 4 (45:24):
I remember they'd have to put these things on the
ground that would be constantly smoking.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
Why because the plane had just crashed.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
Oh oh oh, I understand. I was like, wait what,
oh yeah, do you remember seeing the set for the
first time? Like the airplane pieces and being like, oh
my god, it's really happening. Sometimes when you get to
see it in real life, you're like, shit.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
It was really. Yeah, it was very It was also
very hard because again I say again so much, please
cut out all many agains.
Speaker 4 (45:55):
I remember it personally being a very challenging time because
there I was so happy and pregnant and excited and
about to have a baby at the same time that
I knew that my job might be changing, and that
(46:20):
I was playing in my set of imaginary circumstances such
deep grief and fear and hysteria. And I do also
remember having a moment where I felt, really it was poppy.
Speaker 3 (46:37):
I was pregnant with Poppy. I felt I don't know,
I need to insert the right word. I'm not sure.
I felt guilty, I felt worried. I felt thoughtful. I
felt mindful.
Speaker 4 (46:48):
Of what all of that emotion was doing to the
little baby inside my meal.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
I was thinking, like the screaming even like I would
give me he be Gebi's pregnant.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
Yeah, there was no good way to make that all happen,
you know. That was that was just tough stuff. I then, anyway,
so I saw we finished.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
I finished the episode and then I sat there and
you know how your TV just goes on to the
next episode if you don't do anything. And episode nine,
the first episode, the first character.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
That you see as you Okay, so I have to
talk about this because this is it really made me laugh,
okay because I remember and I said this to Matt
because he saw the end of it with me, and
he was like, damn, such a good episode. And I said,
I remember all those years ago coming on and being
so excited for my first episode, and you know, all
(47:42):
the intro and I and I remember being almost confused
why we weren't immediately embraced as an intern class. You know,
we're new doctors, Like why aren't you guys all immediately
in love with us? And then I laughed to myself
and I thought, literally, there could not have been a
more annoying probably entrance of a character than me just
(48:09):
coming Everyone's expecting to like come back and find out
what happened with the plane crash, and here I am
coming out of the elevator with my little books and stuff, like,
you don't want to be the character that comes on
after the trauma of all these characters that have been
on the show for so long.
Speaker 4 (48:26):
Is this perhaps maybe a good segue into the tone
that was on set right around Burgergate.
Speaker 3 (48:34):
I don't know. I mean maybe just a little bit.
Speaker 4 (48:37):
Are we setting a little bit more context because now
we've identified Yes, that's right. I was the baby that
I had just had, was poppy, and I'd almost died
in a plane crash, and you took a picture of
meeting a burger.
Speaker 3 (48:53):
And you posted it. That's the important part.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
This is true. Yeah. No, it would be more annoying
to have, you know, a new actor on set that
is like, Hi, guys, tell us.
Speaker 3 (49:06):
Hey, guys, let's thanks, let's thanks Shanda for the burger truck.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
Listen to be honest. Let's be honest. We all needed
that burger truck. You guys needed that burger truck. No
one needed a burger more than Arizona Robin's.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
She just wanted to have her burger in peace.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
She want I get it, I do get it. I'll
give you, I'll give you. Yeah, have a minute to herself.
And instead I was like, thanks for the burger truck. Clappy. No, yeah,
it is annoying. Now in retrospect, I'm giving you a
little bit of props right now. It is annoying.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
Here's what The.
Speaker 4 (49:38):
Overall note is that I that I will I will
say this forever because it is true and it's very
easy to keep.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
Track of the truth.
Speaker 4 (49:48):
Every episode that I've ever done I'm grateful for, and
I know that it had a reason and a season.
Revisiting some of them is more enjoyable than others. And
this particular other episode, which I'm so happy that everyone
really loves, because I do think it has incredible things
in it.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
Personally, it was just a little bit more challenging. It
was challenging to do, and it was challenging to rewatch.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
I actually think it was genius though, to not reveal
in the premiere episode what had happened and to have
everybody really wait until episode two of season nine, because
you get to introduce all these new characters. Whether you
like us or not, you know we're going to be there.
But in episode two it was such it was so
(50:36):
shocking to go back and see what had happened, because
we really didn't know the fate of anybody and how
it had all ended until that episode.
Speaker 3 (50:47):
Yeah, but again, it was so it was so hard
that I remember. I mean, I hate to make this
like such a downer.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
It's not an upper episode is it's down I remember.
Speaker 4 (50:59):
Being like when when we came back and then because
Sloan didn't die in the woods, he died in two.
Speaker 3 (51:08):
So yeah, Sloane came back to then film his last scene,
and it was like, that's sad. It's all sad.
Speaker 2 (51:20):
It's all sad, you know, Yeah, we do sad. We
do sad really well.
Speaker 4 (51:25):
Arizon Our lost her leg I know, sorry I didn't not.
Let's not put that at the top of the list.
We lost Lexi, we lost did.
Speaker 3 (51:34):
We ever find that? What happened to Jerry? Where's Jerry?
Speaker 2 (51:37):
Did Jerry survive? Oh my god? So maybe you need
to I don't even want to. I think I'm just
gonna personally watch episode two because I need to. I
need to remember what happened. But this is kind of amazing.
Think about this. That was the season finale of eight,
and then the season finale of nine was the cheating.
I mean, these are fantastics back to back season finales.
Speaker 4 (51:58):
I know, I know, I know, And it's so funny.
It'll be for another I'll tell the story another time.
But remind me to tell you what. Whenever Shanda would
call me with really great storylines that she was cooking up,
I would always have the same response, I'll.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
Tell you what I'm not okay, okay, okay, we got
to know that.
Speaker 3 (52:19):
I'll tell you all. I'll tell you all what I
used to say.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
So not your not your favorite episode, but very necessary episode.
Speaker 3 (52:29):
Uh really appreciated all the high level.
Speaker 4 (52:36):
Storytelling and performances, but it's just, you know, an overall
grade of sadness.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
Yeah, no, it's I was I was not looking forward
to watching it. I was sad, but that was my homework.
I didn't want to be taken back there.
Speaker 4 (52:52):
What does it say about all of you that this
is in your top five that you wanted to hear
from us about.
Speaker 2 (52:59):
I know because it is. It is a brilliant episode.
It's brilliant and the yeah, it's everyone's fantastic. And I
think we have to do a shout out to the
crew too, because I'm sure nobody weren't harder in those
circumstances than that crew that are there from the beginning
(53:21):
to the end of the day, every single day out
there in the mountains, making that happen.
Speaker 3 (53:26):
Every department had to work.
Speaker 4 (53:29):
Ninety five times harder, everyone from crafty to camera to
sound to props to all of it.
Speaker 2 (53:38):
This is what we want to hear. We want to hear.
There's no way for you to be like, oh my god,
I just loved that week. It was like really fun.
Like nobody's that way. You would sound psychotic. I would
expect you to hate filming that week. It's it's you're
putting yourself through trauma and the storylines are not nice.
Speaker 3 (54:01):
Yeah. Yeah, And you know what, I also remember there
was a real feeling when we came back for season
nine because clearly we know the end of that story.
I did get my contract, did get re nude.
Speaker 4 (54:14):
When I came back for season nine, I felt pretty
strongly that there were there was a real division between
those who were in the woods and those.
Speaker 3 (54:25):
Who were not.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
I mean, I'm not kidding, yeah.
Speaker 3 (54:29):
Really, I mean, and you know, we didn't we didn't.
Speaker 4 (54:32):
We weren't there for you know, the blood, sweat and
tears that Kim gave or that Chandra gave and those scenes, like,
we weren't there for that, so we didn't see it.
But no matter what they did on some level, again,
it was sort of normal programming. It was what we
were used to doing, and what we did in the
Woods was so different and so just deeply challenging that
(54:58):
I think there was a real like we would refer
to it. There would be there would be times in
season nine where you know, whether it was Ellen and
I or or you know, Sandra and I, well, we'd
refer back to it.
Speaker 2 (55:09):
It would be, yeah, remember the woods.
Speaker 3 (55:12):
We would recall. We would recall being in the woods.
Speaker 2 (55:15):
Yeah. It was like it is like the season ninth
finale when you're like, you out there, you were out there.
It's like, I'm a new actor on the show. I'm
so excited to be there. You weren't there.
Speaker 4 (55:30):
We turned into like the Jack Nicholson a few Good
Men moments where.
Speaker 2 (55:33):
Like you you can't on that wall, you can't handle
the woods, you can't.
Speaker 3 (55:39):
Handle the woods. You don't want to think about me
being in the woods, but I have to be in
the woods.
Speaker 4 (55:45):
All the story that just populated the entirety of season nine.
Speaker 2 (55:49):
I know, and you're like, and April and all those
guys are at dinner.
Speaker 3 (55:55):
And yeah, they're talking about there's slow roasted duck.
Speaker 2 (55:58):
There's slow roasted duck did like before we go. I
have to say I did like the web. It was
like I've got one piece of advice and he's like,
oh wait, all wait, I'll wait, I'll wait. I'm like,
what was it gonna be?
Speaker 3 (56:11):
Dance? Why was kreb at that dinner?
Speaker 2 (56:14):
He must have been a resident. He must have still
been a residence. In fact, that's why, well he must
have been, or because that's why they were waiting.
Speaker 3 (56:25):
Also, Kepner were not the same resident class as.
Speaker 2 (56:30):
I know, but they came in as transfers from another hospital.
Speaker 3 (56:35):
So they were supposed to be the same age.
Speaker 2 (56:36):
I know, And I never think of them that way either.
I always think of the other crew as like further ahead.
Speaker 4 (56:43):
All right, the one for those of you in our
crew that likes to get really forensic about things.
Speaker 3 (56:48):
I want an analysis.
Speaker 4 (56:50):
Yeah, we need to know the braindo how it's possible
that they're all in the same class, and then their
birthdays and their fictional pages.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
Yes, we need to know out all right. My request
to the crew is the next one that you guys
vote for, can we make it less traumatic for us
to rewatch? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (57:15):
Yeah, but I don't know if it gets to be
the musical episode, because that's a different kind of.
Speaker 2 (57:19):
Happy, that's a different kind of trauma for you. It's
a different kind of trauma for you.
Speaker 3 (57:23):
All Right. So at the end of the day, I'm
glad we did it.
Speaker 2 (57:28):
I'm glad we did it. Usually when we say it's
the end of the episode, I'm a little bit sad.
But today I'm a little bit happy. I'm gonna go
lay down and cry.
Speaker 3 (57:39):
For season eight, do you never see you never again?
Speaker 5 (57:45):
Let's call it the end of the episode.
Speaker 3 (58:00):
Yeah,
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