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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington,
an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Well, Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello Call It crew, and welcome
to another episode of Call It What It Is? Hi, Hi, okay.
Can I tell you when we get episodes like this,
they're one of my favorite episodes.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I know, me too, me too?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
What are we talking about? We're talking about and ask
us anything? Episode?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I love it, I mean, ask us really anything, and
we will We'll have we'll have a We're not we're
not sparse on opinions.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Nope, nope, And we'll give you the story. We'll give
you the juice. We just dive right in because we
have a few different ones. We have we have Gray's
Anatomy questions, we have nine one questions, and we have
personal life questions, and then we have just some random
podcasting Taylor swifties, look, God, I.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Love and you know what I'm actually I'm well, I mean,
are you on the countdown to the new album? Because
my house is.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yes, I'm on the countdown. I'm on the countdown to
the wedding? Are you kidding still? Because that well, I'll
tell you when I get it in the middle, I can.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Only deal with the things I know.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Okay, all right, okay, can I ask this first question?
Can I ask this first question? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Would you want to start off with Grace since that's
how we.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
This one cracked me up. Okay. If Gray's had a
musical episode again, which song? Which song would your character sing?
I thought that was actually a great question. I've never
been asked. Hmmm.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Well, I mean, there's no best or worse when it
comes to art, right, but the story is the song.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Well, I mean you can pick any song in the
entire world. You can pick we will rock you.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Oh oh oh, I thought you meant actual musical episode.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
No, like, if we had to do one again and
you got to pick your own song, like, what would
it be?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
See Taylor's in the front of my right now. So
I just went to jeweled.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Oh I love that role play shimmer. Actually that works
for you. That works for Arizona. She's so because she's
so sunshiny.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Bring the shimmer.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah, so there you go, the shimmer. I think that
if I honestly, I would have done Manchild back if
if it was a couple of seasons ago and I
was going through an Alex krav breakup, Manchild by Sabrina
would have been Yeah, with the dance right like with
the little dance in it?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah. Are you listening to that album right now? The
new one?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Some of it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Well, I mean you got to really make sure you
get the clean version if you have any little ears
in this car.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I talked about this. I don't listen to Sabrina in
the car with her, but I feel like I might
go as her for Halloween. By the way, I just
got to pick fure out how to look twenty.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
That would be fun.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, she's got some really fun outfits that she wears.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Wait, let's do it Coast to coast? Do you do one?
All you do one? I'll do one.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
That's so fun, I'll wig it up.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I think Poppy would be Sabrines with me too.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah, you gotta get it.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Multiple Sabrines, multiple many Sabrines for all the many Sabrine episodes.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Okay, we've already talked about.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
This, but how did you react when you first got
your roles in Grays I kissed the ground?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Did you you've set this afoid? Did you really get
on the ground and honestly kiss it?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Literally on Montana Avenue Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Wait you were outside.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah, I was with my mom.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Wait a second, this whole time, I pictured your nice
clean floors in your house. Nope, lips on drips on
the Los Angeles streets.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Wow, it would post strike. Capshaw had not been working.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Okay, yeah, yeah, I'm just picturing. Is this the most
Uncapshaw thing? I can?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Had lost for health insurance, my SAG health insurance, I'd lost.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Well, that wasn't a good idea. To kiss the ground
and picked up some from Los Angeles. And now you're
you're in the er. Your lips are the size of
the moon.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
No insurance insurance, you got no way to pay.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
God, I was on Cobra, I I do, I remember.
I remember. I was so excited, but I was also terrified.
It moved very very quickly for me. Okay, most awkward
scene you had to film?
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Oh, oh, I'm not getting one coming to mine right away.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I think for me, honestly, it's a scene that we
watched recently, which is where like I have to undress,
I'm drunk, So I was like in my underwear, drunk,
falling on a bed, laughing. It's a fight that happens,
Like I think that would like the calm of that
was probably one of the most awkward scenes I've never shot.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Well, and this is nothing that anyone ever wants to hear.
And I've actually never heard someone who has our job
say anything different. The sex scenes, like the any kind
of romantic scene, it's just never what you you want
it to look so sexy. It's just never. It's like
you're like, you have you have to choreograph it. You
(05:25):
have to feel like is my head going to the
left or the right, because it's not.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Oh, it's so no, it's a little fumbly.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
And then you got a like five six, seven, eight,
you left, I'd go right to go down, you go up?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yea, Yeah, it really is. Yeah. Yeah, I would say
any sex scene is probably Yeah, in general, i'd say
that the most awkward. Although I did see this interview
with Dakota Johnson and she was talking to Amy Poehler
and she was like totally chill, like, yeah, it's just
another day in the office, and I was like, wow,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I feel like she's got that on Lockdown? I think, like,
am I am I right in saying her first big
movie was fifty.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Shades, right?
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yeah? Yeahah, well I mean, if you're gonna start somewhere,
you're there, and then anything else seems like child's play.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
That's true, that's true, right, So maybe she's just.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Like she's like, yeah, got it, got it done. Check
can do that. That would be amazing to not feel awkward.
I would love that superpower.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Do you think it's like, do you think it's easier
to do love scenes as you get older or as
you're younger.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I haven't done a love scene in a long time,
so I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Let's get back to us on those one blues. What
is your very best memory of Grace? Wait?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I wanted to say what my funniest one was, and
this is like for.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
This true Grace.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Oh yeah, yeah, every single episode, because you'd have to
really mine for this episode. But do you remember when
there was an episode where there was a patient who
looked like a cat?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yes, oh my god, yes, and he really didn't really
life right.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, it was a true story, And there was a
scene where he comes around the corner and jump scares Arizona.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yes, and she screams, yes.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
We didn't get through one take of that without I
Actually my memory was actually everyone on the crew was
laughing like we had to get ourselves back together because
for some reason there was something that I was doing
with my face or in real life for real. I
don't know what it was, but it was the funniest
we were in We were like everyone was on the floor.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Oh oh my god, that's amazing. I definitely remember that episode. Okay,
the best memory of Grays. Honestly, some of my best
memories are in your trailer, so true, like great memories
like in your trailer, hanging out, chilling because you guys
don't know, I mean, maybe we've talked about this before.
(07:55):
Jessica redid her trailer and so her trailer looked like
something out of like this beautiful magazine. My trailer was
basically a closet, like a dumping ground, right like I
just throw my bag in a lea. There were like
cobwebs and flies still in there, and I love them
because there are my pets now. But so we would convene,
(08:15):
never in my trailer, always in your trailer. And it
was like so every lunchtime, it was like, let's if
we were working together, We're like, let's go.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yeah. Well, when when I first started, you know, Grays
is Grays, you don't know how long you're staying. It's
moment to moment business. Yeah, yeah, what's going to happen?
Who knows? Yes, So I think the first couple of years,
I was just sort of like I'd come in and out,
and you keep it nice enough. But I was having
I mean, I don't know, do the math. I was
(08:45):
having a baby pretty much every other year. Yeah, And
I was there a lot. And I think it was
probably right around when I I think I probably were
negotiated my contract. I probably was feeling a little like
I had some extra, extra, extra extra.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Dollars to Yeah, you were also bringing your kids in more, Yes,
I was.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
And a couple of people had done it where they
had redone the inside of their trailers, and I, honestly
I didn't even know you could.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
No, I didn't know either.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
So when I saw that what was possible, I thought, oh, yeah,
for sure, let's do this. So yeah, I painted my
cabintry and I put in like you know, real furniture.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
And light fixtures and the sort of change things like that. Wait,
I have a question now, because now that you don't
get to take that trailer with you, that trailer is
not on nine to one one Nashville did not get
driven down the freeway to Nashville.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Okay, that is that is grazing now to be property.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Do you regret doing your trailer because then you had
to just leave it all these beautiful things for somebody else.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Well, I mean, do we want to tell the real
story where when I left, I was like, take my trailer, Kamilla.
And what did you say to me?
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I tried to give you all the nice things.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
That's true that we have never talked about this before.
When Jessica left, she was like, you can take my
trailer because she knew I was all these.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Beautiful memories in like take my beautiful bath.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yes, and it was, and it's truly way more beautiful
than my trailer. And and you know, she knew I
was living with the flies. And I said no, no,
never ever. I just couldn't do it. It felt really wrong,
it felt really not okay to take it, and I didn't.
I didn't. I did not want it. And so I'm
still with the flies. Can I tell you something that
you don't remember?
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Okay. So I saw everyone's trailer being done, and I said, Matt,
what's something very minimal we can do, okay, And he
was like, I'll come and I'll paint your trailer. Why
you're pregnant, right, you probably don't remember those time?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Do you remember it?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Do you? So Matt comes and paints my trailer and
I'm in there like I'm in there looking around even know,
no no safety mask on or anything. And Jess like
I would have said, just as like, Camilla, have you
checked to see if that paint is like not toxic
and not like a poisonous paint that will potentially kill you?
And I was like, no, I've been in there from
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the walls. Now. In Matt's defense, he had done the work,
but I absolutely would have painted like a lead paint
situation all over my trailer. And I was like so
proud of it as it was going up, I'm like,
let me just really smell this.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
This is this pervasties.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
We're here for each other exactly.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Okay, I have a question for you, if you could
in all of the characters, all of the characters that
ever were, is there anyone that you would have wanted
to date in real life? If that person, if that
character was a real person, I want to go on
a date with that person.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, I would go on a date with Jackson Avery
pre pre April. Yeah, mister money bags. Yeah, I want
I want a piece of that hospital so bad. And
I would not have you see your name on a wing.
I would have Yeah, I would have seen it. The
the am I Camilla or am I Joe?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Well, I think you to pick his Camilla?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Okay, yeah, No, it's the D wing. It's the Luddington.
It's the Luddington plastic surgery wing. And you can't get
and you know what I'm doing with that wing, I'm
donating free botoxed. Yeah, that's where I come in. It's
really it's it's a lot of work. And no, that's
who I would pick. And I would not sign a prenup.
(12:22):
Absolutely not Catherine. And then a year later, you know
what I would do. I divorce him and I'd say
ha ha, and I would take it. I would run
with my wing. I don't know why I turned this
into the most insitious storyline when I take fifty percent
of Jackson Avery's money. Oh, it's a real answer, it's
(12:47):
a really okay, wait, that's a great question. What about you?
Justin Capshaw walks into Grace La memorial single.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Ready, Madle, single Mingle, Single Mingle, then we should.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Do who We definitely not dating.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Character, So it's just the character, not the person.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
It's yeah, it's not it's not the actor. You've got
to think about like their story. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I mean I will say, as you know, the person
who's watched Jerry Maguire ninety five thousand times, because I
just like the romanticism of it all.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I do think Dreamy.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I think Dreamy had it.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I forgot about the dreams.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Yeah, I mean not like that, not like she'd be.
You know, she's at a Jackson Avery encounter and and
half of half of.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
All that, you know what I want to add on
to my answer. So once I've divorced Jackson, I've taken
half his money, then I'm moving on to Dreamy because
that is the.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
For true love.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
For true love.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
There is just this way that big Dreamy looked at
people ridiculous and it was a little I think the
reason why I said Jerry Maguire, it was a little
it was a little like Jerry, like there was just
like a that's a baked in it was. It was
like puppy dog meets lying pain like vulnerable and strong.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yeah, but it was like this painful longing behind his eyes,
always longing, And I was like, oh my god, why
are you obsessed with me?
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Why do you tell me so much? You would do anything.
You'd make a candle out of you'd make a house
out of candles.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yes, Oh my god, I'm ridiculous. No, I agree. Once
I've divorced Jackson, I'm onto Derek. What who would you
definitely not date? Like you walk in You're like, absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Oh hmmm.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I'm trying to think if I would honestly have dated Alex.
I can imagine like a fling and Alex.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Depends on which Alex. It depends on where you're getting
him in his journey. Because when I when the girls
were watching it from the beginning again, I mean, he
a real in the beginning.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah, isn't he also like spreading STDs in one episode?
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yes, like dirty, dirty, and well I'm gonna say dirty, but.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, I mean you can say it. I mean I
think there's probably a reference to it in the show.
It was a whole storyline. I don't think I would
have dated like McSteamy.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Oh yeah, yeah, no, definitely not.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
He to me was just like, there's no way he's
just sleeping with you. It's not happening. You are one
of many?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
No, oh gosh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Kind of same with Alex too, but like, yes, you're
kind of one of many.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Let's jump into Nashville.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Let's do it. Okay, Well, how do you feel about
the fact that we're one Two Punch comes this fall.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I honestly I love it. I love it, and I
think it's amazing that they're airing one after the other.
My question to you, Oh, it airs at nine, okay,
but it is on streaming, So my question to you
is is it hate and appropriate? But she loves a
little action, she likes, she likes a little she likes,
(16:18):
she'd liked the movie Twister.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I can't think of anything in it that is inappropriate. Okay,
you know there's catastrophes and yeah, it's there will be
episodes where there's you know, I mean there's life and
death and all that. Yeah. No, more than grays.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
No, I'm so pumped. I think it's incredible and I
actually think that it's smart because I think that they
know that fans know both you and Chris and Grey's Anatomy,
and why not, like if anyone's feeling that nostalgia. Anne
loves nine one one and is excited for a new
show and all all the ends and ands like it's
smart to have you guys right before us.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
I think it's nice that we're sandwich in between the
original nine one one and Grace, and I think it
ends up being such a awesome night of television. I mean,
you can just you can just sit down and really
only get up to go to the bathroom. That's all
you gotta do, grab yourself some snacks, and just park
it and just hang on for the ride. We have
a lot of medical because clearly life and death circumstances
(17:23):
and things like fire NATO's you know, will.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Definitely bring you some some accidents, some some you know,
when you're being honest, when you're on a table read
and you're hearing the medical you ever like that's not
said like that? Do you ever feel a little bit
like my want to play like that?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
I had a situation. I was in a situation recently
where there was I because I'm not a first responder
in the show, but someone was doing medical and I
did actually have a moment where I was like, that's
not how I would do that.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Yeah, yeah, that's not how you hold the scalpel, but like.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
You might want to check your work. But then the
other thing that I don't know if you've ever heard this,
but I've heard from people that are in the medical
world that that that love watching Grays that the most
common mistake that they see on Grays is doctors wearing
their stethoscope.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Out shut up. I've never heard that. I'm sure I've
done it, oh one hundred times. In this moment, I'm
thinking it's steath is it's the circle part here and
the the blah blah blah on this side and your ears,
oh in our ears.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Well, first off, there is a right way to put
it round your neck that is definitely the right way
to put but yes, in your ears. It is confusing
because instinctually to me, I've definitely done this means because
Linda Klein has talked to me about this. Instinctually, to me,
it's it's not intuitive, Yes it is. I agree. Oh
that's funny. Yeah, Okay. Someone asks what's been your favorite
(19:02):
moment filming nine one one Nashville so far, and what
are you most excited about next? I know you have
to be really careful, just has to be super careful.
Right now, that's spoilers because we haven't aired yet. We
can get more into it when it's airing.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
I think it's been really exciting. I've said this before,
but you know, Gray's is a show where you really
the bulk of your work is on the studio at
the studio and on our already built so in the
hospital in hospital, and it's been very exciting in the
exciting category. It's been exciting to be on location. Yeah,
(19:38):
and all that comes with it, right, this sort of
unpredictable nature of it. There's actual real life happening, so
there's sounds and there's wind and there's weather.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Do you have fans yet like outside like waving and
saying hi?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:49):
No.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
But there was a day that we.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Closed down a bridge and so we were there and
there was a lot of people on the on the
other bridge that were kind of like trying to figure
out what was going on and what we were doing.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
And that's always cute when you see people like kind
of coming to watch and they're excited to watch. I
think I saw a clip of you on the bridge
in the trailer. Yeah, yeah, right, and you're like looking
up at something. Am I right? I'm trying to remember now?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Can we do a little recappy after the first after
the premiere episode? Can we have as sit down and
go through like what filming all the different things were
like and juicy juicy talk?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
I would love.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
That's so fun, you guys.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah, and maybe we'll get someone to come on too
from the show to do it with us.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah. Yeah, Jess, How has life in Nashville changed your
routine or inspired any new hobbies? Like line dancing. I
love that they added that like line dance dancing.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I have not goneline line dancing yet. I think, you know,
I love country music and I listened to it regularly,
but there I listened to it more and I think
that's definitely influenced. And then I think, because you know,
my kids have come a couple of times, but most
(21:07):
of the time when I go, I'm on my own. Uh,
And that I mean, you know, as a mom, Like
it's it's interesting because I was talking about this with
the kids. Normally, you go and do your job and
then you come home and you go right back into
your mom routine. It's been an interesting experience to you know,
I go there for periods of time and it's just
(21:30):
all work. So there's actually nothing else being expected of
me besides Jessica who goes to work and and that's
been a different and interesting experience. But then that on
the on the flip side of that, which is what
I've said to my kids, when I come home, I'm
literally all theirs probably Yeah, you want me to be
like like what we do from morning till night? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:51):
No, I love I love that so much. I think
I also wonder, like I haven't had that experience, but
I wonder if when you're at work and then you're
just Jessica, there's almost like a recalibration situation that happens
because you're like, wait, it's just me, Like it's usually
me and and and plus plus plus, and then maybe
(22:13):
it's kind of a little freeing because you're like, I
get to do I want to go get coffee right now?
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I guess I do?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Right Like I'd like, I wouldn't know what to do
with that for you that.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Out loud to myself coffee right now?
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Jski, Yes, I would yes, I would. Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Yeah it is, but so so yeah, there's a little
bit more of there's a lot of meat time. I
mean a lot of meat time at work. I actually
went to go set an alarm. I'm home right now
and I want to go set an alarm for I
don't know whatever, wake up and I don't know about
on your phone. But I have so many alarms. Alarms
(22:51):
is how I actually run my life, like I cause
I just I can't be trusted to know where I'm
going next, and there's so many different places I'm going.
So I set my alarms and I went to go
set my morning alarm. It was towards the top, obviously,
because they go in sequence. Yeah, and I saw my
top earliest alarm was for three fifteen AM, and I
was like, I'm really glad I'm not pushing the togg
(23:12):
along that one.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
No, absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Three fifteen.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
What's the earliest you've had to wake up this week
for grades? I've had to wake up up four thirty.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Three fifteen is actually the earliest I've ever woken up
for anything in my life, like any I mean travel,
We're a response, like, that's the earliest I've ever sent
an alarm for I think that's probably why I kept
it there. I was like, just remember you did.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
That, Just remember those days?
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Absolutely, all right, let's hop into personal life. People have
sort of like personal life questions for us.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Hmm, well, I have a question, because you know, this
is always the gift that keeps on giving. It's even
better than the good ones. What's the worst date that
you've ever been on? Mmm? Yeah, we have.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
We have been asked that. It's funny because there are
I mean, it's.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
A lot to choose from.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
It's to choose your own adventure in I'll give a
little a little juice. I did date somebody who is
very famous, and I say date, this is just like
a couple of dates. And it was the worst date
I ever want out because I thought it was just
a one on one date. And I got into the
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car and I was like kind of excited to get
to know them, and they were like, we're going to
go to a Hollywood party and I was like, oh god,
I knew in that moment that basically like it was done.
And we were taken to a couple's house that are
still together. They're very famous together. They were secretly dating
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at the time, and they had this absolutely massive house
on the hills and just everybody who was anybody was
like there. And we got there and he fucking ditched me.
He went, and I think in my mind I was like,
I think you're trying to look cool by going and
like schmoozing with people and then like coming back to me.
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But I didn't know anybody at this party, and everyone
was like and at one point he was like, Hey,
you want to go smoke pot and I was like,
I didn't because I knew i'd have a panic Attackian like,
you really don't know me. I will have an anxiety
attack and an ambulance will be here this whole party,
and so I just remember being in a room at
one point and everyone was like passing a joint around.
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That was like, yeah, this is so cool, and I
was like, you know, it would come to me and
I'd like pass it over to the next person, and
I remember just being very afraid of like the second
hand high I could potentially beginning in the room. So
that was definitely the worst day. I was ditched at
this hall. There's nothing, There's no place I'd rather be
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less than some Hollywood Hit Hills, everyone feels really cool party.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
You took me straight back to my early twenties, and
you're right, there's that one hits in a really specific way,
but clearly you can only know.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I mean, listen, here's it's a certain vibe.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Yeah, but there's also that party, whether it's like the
cool Hollywood Hills party or it's just basically whoever thinks
they're cool in your world's party. It's just it's that
it's that aspect, like being in a space where you
know that everybody thinks that they're super cool.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Oh awful, it's an immediate turn off.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
And I too, also tried to figure out how to
not do the drug that anyone was.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Everyone else is doing it, but like the lengths that
you would have to not do it.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
But look, yes, this is the insecure party that you
wanted to look like you were, but then everyone everyone.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I wanted to look like I wasn't. Here's what was
going through my head. I wanted to look like I
wasn't judge of it right, because it's like I'm cool,
like this is it's legals whatever, whatever. But I also
was like, I this will give me anxiety, and I
will think I'm dying, and so just breathe very lightly.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
You're fairly breathing.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
You get a fairly breathe the second hand smoke. I
also didn't want to leave him. He was I didn't
know anybody else. I was like, it was honestly nightmare.
Wasn't like a networking event being ditched by date is
ditch me multiple times during the night. Oh okay, I
have a.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Question, how back back again back in the day for us?
But did you ever have and like, did you ever
have a hard time working up the courage to go
and ask someone out or like engage or have a
conversation with someone. I just was talking about this with
one of my daughters.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
There was a guy that I thought was like very
sweet and I had just gone through a breakup, and
I was like, you know what, like I should just
put myself out there, and like he's a nice guy,
Like he's a safe guy to be like, hey, do
you want to go out on a date. Like I
wasn't super into him or anything, and and so I
just was like, hey, like if you ever want to
grab a drink, like let me know. And he was
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like m And I could tell by his mm hm,
that he did not want to ever go out on
drink for a drink with me, and then I felt
like I needed to say, like, listen, I'm not actually interested,
but then I couldn't say that part.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
We were interested enough to ask, and he knew.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
That I want to be like listen, I'm just trying
to like get back out there a little bit.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Like this is you know.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
So I had to eat crow on that one a
little bit. No, but then that then that then the
real person I ended up like declaring my love to
was Matt and that was real and that that I
did put myself out there. I definitely was like and
thank god he said it back.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I would always imagine. I would just always imagine that
the answer was going to be yes, even if it wasn't.
That's how I draw up the courage. I'd be like, yeah,
the answer is definitely gonna be yes.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Well that's how I felt this guy. I was like,
this is like just you know, I kind of go.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Into it thinking it's going to be a yes. Courage
to go and then now you're like, well then now
I just have to work on recovering.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
I mean, luckily for me it was it was very
low stakes, A.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Little more high stakes. I asked a guy out like
fresh really and had to spend the next three years.
Like every time I saw him, I was reminded of
the REGI no I after college, by the way, he
they always do.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
They always come back.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Whoever's listening, it may not have it now, I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Usually they come back.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
They do a couple of years.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
And I had to spend all of my college years
every time I saw him.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Oh man, that sucks.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
That is college. Oh and you know what, I wasn't
that into it.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
No, you weren't. Absolutely you were not. Okay, if you
could have lunch with someone dead or alive, who would
it be. I think i'd want to sit with marily
Monroe just to stare at her. I think for like
our industry mm.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Hmm, yeah, I was trying to see. I would almost
go She's for some reason, we've been talking about her
a lot lately. Jessica Lang.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Oh you went alive.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yeah. When I was first aware of what it was,
you know, what an actress was and all that, Jessica Lang's,
the Meryl Streeps, you know, just I think I would
want to ask all.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeah, that's spurting out storytelling.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Like also, I think that approaches to acting have like
moved and evolved and changed in styles, and I just
think i'd want to ask all the questions.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Yeah, do you have a favorite mascara?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
I still use a hard right term, but go ahead. No, no, no, no,
that's what we've been asked. Where asking the questions that
you guys ask us our favorite scara. I still have
my I mean I don't use it all the time,
but I do still have that og Maybilene, the pink
and the green, and when I need to, I swear
that bad Boy is incredible. But I don't have a
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favorite right now. Oh I do? Oh you do?
Speaker 1 (31:19):
I like the tubing because it doesn't I don't like
the dropage.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
I don't like the you know, they don't like a
cop drip, especially on.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
A long work day. Cosmetics makes a it's called I
think it's called tartlet, and they make the best mascara,
the most beautiful brown. And I've been wearing brown a
lot because it's fall and brown is everything. But I'll
wear it in brown, I'll wear in black.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
They have a regular.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
They have an x L.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
I love it. It's my favorite mascara hands down.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Ooh, I love that.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Can I tell you what else I'm obsessed with? And
no one is paying me any dollars to say this?
And when I say I mean obsessed. The biggest beauty
game changer in a really long time. Yeah, there is
a heated round brush called Maine m A n E
m A n E. Okay, when I'm not, you know, working,
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because I don't really like give myself blowout and stuff.
If I'm not working, I usually kind of don't even
wear makeup. But I can let my hair dry naturally
out of the shower and it we deal whatever, whatever.
And then you plug in this heated round brush Jen Atkins,
who also has that company away it's hers, and you literally,
I mean it's the easiest thing in the world, and
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you run it through your hair. I mean I think
you have to like play around with a little bit
to like know which way to bend it and all
that stuff. I am telling you, you look like you
got a salon blowout. And I would say, there's no
world in which takes me more than five minutes. What
I think it's more around four minutes.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Is it better than the what did I get? That's
like that's super crazing. Yes, I mean, I'll I don't know,
yes to me?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Really? Oh crap, I gotta go get it. I love
the blowouts.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
I love the blow look unbelievable. I couldn't love it more.
All right, Another question that's coming in from the crew.
Are you into pro wrestling?
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Interesting? I as a kid loved WWF and I went
to c WWF at the Albert Hall way back when
and the British Bulldog won and the undertaking. I don't
like it now, but I can appreciate it because we
were back in the day of like the whole Cogans. Yeah.
I was gonna say the prime nineties asked me anything, Yeah,
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but now I would Now I'm not into it, but
I really I really appreciate, like the theatrics of it,
the the the artistry actually almost of like wrestling. It
looks tough, it's hard.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
What about you? What doesn't look easy?
Speaker 2 (33:53):
No, but I mean like the amount that they choreograph
all that stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
See, I didn't even know that that was qure. So
the answer is no, I guess I'm not. I don't
think that I've ever scratched. I don't even think I've
scratched the surface of what the WWE is or the
a W E ae W.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
I don't know what the ae W is, what that is,
and I don't want the WW is, but I'm assuming
like WWF is maybe the same thing. But I could
be wrong. Listen, now, I got to go research after
this question.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Mm hmmmmm. I have a question all right in the
fan and in the fun and random category that's got
what celebrity would you lose your mind if you met
a celebrity?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
I would lose my mind if I met Does it
sound bad to say like, I'm not sure I would
lose my mind on anybody?
Speaker 1 (34:40):
No, because I well, I think I would. Add, I
don't think that I well, Okay, I was in La
for work and I was sitting outside of the hotel
I was staying in and Derek Huff pulled up in
his car and walked into the hotel. You like, I
didn't lose my mind, but I am not. Like I'm
still in no matter how many people you meet or
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where you are. Whenever you see people that are sort
of in a television for you, like yes, someone that
you're used to seeing up close in a television and
then all of a sudden they're right there in the
wild walk by you. There's a level of excitement, like
a level of like this.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yes, I think what happens when you're in our industry
is you do you're you like you have seen out
like the you know, the Robert Downey juniors and the
Beneflecks and all the you know on Angela and Jolie
and and so it's almost like it sort of becomes
not normal. But like, I don't know, I think I think, honestly,
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actually DiCaprio. I think if I I think Lenardo DiCaprio
just purely from like an artistic point of view, because
I think he's just mind blowing as an actor. I
think I would feel that way about DiCaprio, who you've met, right,
like you've yeah, yeah, okay if you weren't an actress.
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What would be your dream job?
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Hosting a podcast with you?
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Oh my god? Well yes, actually, truly this is very
this is very dreamy. I mean truly, Like I think
it's like ridiculous, like I get to zoom in with
my best friend and like talk about stuff. Hello dream However,
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I would also like to be a ghost hunter dress
I can't with my own show called Camilla's Ghosts.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Wouldn't even be happening if someone wasn't there to document it.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
No, no, no, I do if I but I'd be
to be honest, I'd be way too scared, Like I'd
be absolutely terrified. But if I could just get my
if I could just make sure that I was under
control and like I had a lot of like you know,
relics on me so I didn't get possessed, then that's
what I would do. I love it other than a podcast.
Would your answer be?
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Oh, I think it's maybe because it's the biggest fear
I have, so the idea of conquering it would be
just incredible. But I really think it would be an
unbelievable thing to be talented and able to write and
perform music. Oh yeah, I think that that would be
absolutely dreamy.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Oh yeah, of course, yes, yes, Okay, we have time
for one more. Who's more likely to crack up in
the middle of a serious scene?
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Oh, what's your answer? Should we say at the same time?
Hold on, hold, let me hang on, hang on? Okay, yeah,
I think I have an answer. Okay, yeah, yeah, on
account of I'll say three two one, and then you
say and.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Then you say a names. Do you say Jessica, Orkimilla? Okay?
Three two one one, yes, Jessica.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Yeah. And I'm unprofessional.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Yeah, you're fully unprofessional.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Okay. I think you should. I think you should end
on that note because I think that it's you know,
pointing out my unprofessionalism and everyone knowing that I'm the
one that will crack up the middle scene is a
great place to end.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
It is, and we have so many more questions. We're
gonna save this from the for the next ask, is anything?
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
All right, Well let's call it the end of the episode.