July 21, 2025 • 35 mins
Jessica is back from Tennessee and gives us the 411 on 9-1-1: Nashville.
Hear how the town took her by surprise, what it means to have a moving mindset and whether or not she sees herself moving to the popular southern city. Jessica also reveals her hopes for a karaoke cameo with LeAnn Rimes, and the one Grey’s wardrobe item she saved for the last episode.
Plus, Jessica and Camilla name their must-have items at home, and the one thing Jessica refuses to have on set.
And, planning on flying the furry skies? Camilla lets us in on the most pet friendly flight ever!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camil Luddington,
an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Well, hello, Hello, Hello, Hello Call It crew, and welcome
to another episode of Call It What It Is. Can
you hear my dogs? No?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Good because I have four of them in the background
and they've probably seen, like, you know, a leaf blowing by.
I decided that's a threat to the house.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I feel like you've had a lot of dog content lately.
I've noticed on your Instagram account I have you looking
on you're looking for a dog deal?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Are you putting.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Out any any you know what?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Yes, you're gonna start selling some dogbeds.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Do you know how much I'm spending on my dogs?
Any deal? That's why I think I deal with kibble.
Whatever I can get for those dogs that I don't
have to pay for, I'll do.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yes, well you know the dog the dog industry is
like a billion dollar industry.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I've thought about getting in on that. I could do
some dog business. Why not? I love my dogs?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Are all you love your dogs? Dog?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I have doodles?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Can I tell you what I read about doodles?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Do you know?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Okay, so I've seen this thing on TikTok where people
are positive. It's not I've seen this thing on TikTok
where people are like the worst the top breeds that
I would like. They're like a vet or something. They're
like that they would never ever get and always are
the the doodles they're in there.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Jess, I love my doodles.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I know your doodles are pretty well behaved, though, or
like exceptionally well behaved. Apparently there's a lot of unhinged doodles.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Oh well, I have one doodle that's very refined and
if he had his dog voice sounds like yeah, maybe
like your dad.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
He's a like Martin Ludington.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah, yeah, you've said this, and cow's a little out
of control.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
He's a surfer dude.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yes, But I'm talking about dogs that are like, you know,
it's almost like a rabid situation.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Like they might be dumb, like dumb, dumb.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Dumb, just like rebellious.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Oh like oppositional defiance disorder. Sure, they're like I'm not coming,
I'm going.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I mean, they're untrainable. I'm just I'm just telling you
what i've seen on the talk.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Okay, yeah, no, but I see that. I see that well,
I had him.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I ran into a Golden Retriever the other day and
I locked eyes with this Golden Retriever and I thought,
I need a Golden Retriever.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
But it's the hair.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
The reason why I'm in the doodle business is because
the hair shedding is just I have four children. I
think I'm gonna add a lot of hair being shed
and all over my house.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, I don't know. That's I have a lot of
cream for a reason. Cream, Yes, because I like cream.
SOFA like a lot of like because like that way,
I can't see the two inches of like Casper hair
because Casper is like a lot of retriever. Yes, yeah,
you can't.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, I mean the dogs. The dogs. Well, I like
your dog content and I think you should keep it going.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
And I think that any's listening that is in you know,
charge of ad dollars for any kind of dog of
you you just really reached out to you send them.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yes, just send me the dollars.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah, you speaking of your puppies.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yeah, you've moved to Nashville.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Have you put any of the dogs on the plane
with you and know them?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
No, No, they don't go to Nashville.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Well, you know it's a it's a it's a dare
I say because it sounds a little bananas.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
I live in New York and I.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Commute commute to I know, but I didn't know if
you did like a bark. Have you heard of bark Air?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I have heard of bark Air.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
But also can't you just basically take dogs on the
plane now? Anyways?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, but bark here is different, like if you this
is not an ad for Barcare and I've never done Barcare, but.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
If you like to pay her, she will take your dogs.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Off flight all over the show off, fly all over
the world. When you get on, the dogs fly first. Yeah,
they get treats when they get on, like some sort
of like caviar situation. You are I'm not kidding.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
No, yes, dogs even like caviar. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
It's like it's they are exceptional treats. There's some sort
of dog chef in the back, like whipping stuff up,
and they get they get on the plane and you
they're basically bringing you on the flight.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
You're their plus one.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
You're the plus one on barcaer. Yes, you're the unaccompanied minor. Yeah,
I'm just sugg yeah, I'm just suggesting if you feel
like Gus needs to come with you in Nashville, you
gotta do a little you know.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Okay, all right, yeah, okay, Well we're not there. We're
not there because we're back in. We're back and forth
and summertime and the kids are out of school. So
you know, like today earlier, I had Eve jump on
because she really wanted to see Camilla first. She's about
to go off to camp. So we got a lot
of comings and goings. And you know, every episode of
television is different. Sometimes you're working a ton in an
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episode and sometimes you're not. And so for when I'm working,
I'm there and I'm present and.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I'm in and it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
And then when I'm not working, instead of living my
life in Nashville, where I don't live, although I have,
turns out I have so many friends there.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
I have just been coming home.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
So it's actually so far been knocking on all the wood,
but really great. But it's but I did go there
with my moving mindset on. And I mean, I'm gonna
tell you so, I'm sure I've mentioned this before, but
as the daughter of an actress, my mom was always
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doing movies, and at the time, movies were all wherever
they were meant to take place. So we were in
Sri Lanka and London making Indiana Jones in the Temple
of Doom.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
She was in Japan.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Making this movie with Michael Douglas called Black Rain Andy Garcia.
I didn't go there for that, but then, uh, you know,
it was all over the place, is the point, like,
and so I would just be I would.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Come along for the ride, huh.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
And because of that, I.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Went to probably something like it sounds it sounds good,
and I think it's pretty much accurate, which is like
I went to probably thirteen different schools before I was thirteen.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
And then at that point I was like, Mom, like,
we gotta we got we gotta like, we gotta lay
some roots here. So we did.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Stay in Los Angeles, and I really sort of like
rooted from seventh grade on.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
So seventh through twelfth I was in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
But I moved around a lot as the point, and
my mom was always really good at setting up these
brewery homes and so I feel kind of comfortable doing that.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
And now in my own life, I move around a lot.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
And so I have like a mindset that I get
into when I go to a new place. And I
love going to new places, and it pretty much follows
my interests. So I get to know a new city
based on what I like the most.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
So the number one thing that I like the most
is food.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
So yeah, I go on all the websites that I trust,
or all the different blogs or blogs and all the
things to see sort of like where the best food is.
And usually the best food I have found is in
the neighborhoods that I'm interested in, So I'll find that
I'll plot my course. And so when I landed in Nashville,
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I had a fitting that day, but I knew I
had like two or three hours. And a friend of
mine who's been living there for the past four years, said, oh,
you've got to go check out this restaurant called a Piece.
It's on twelve on twelve twelfth Avenue South, and I
was like, okay, great, and I went and I got lunch,
and then I just walked and you just learn all
these different new neighborhoods.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
So I'd gotten a piece of that, and then I'd go.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Wait, I have a question, then, so are you kind
of saying that you almost pick a neighborhood around the restaurant.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Ish to walk to it, like I'm thinking right now,
like I love in and out here, Like do I
need to be moving? Do I need to move to
place that's closer to a walking in and out for
my cheese fries? Yeah? You might, you might. I've never
heard of this. I'm known for.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Planning an entire day based on a freid Yeah, like
where do I want to go to lunch?
Speaker 3 (08:46):
And where do I want to go to dinner?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Wait? No, that does make sense. I have traveled with
you exactly. See, you know this makes sense, and it's,
by the way, it's the most delicious traveling I could
ever do.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Okay, so I first triangulate where that all the good
food is, and then I get to understand the neighborhood's better.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
What's the food?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
And Nashville no, like what is it? No barbecue? Oh barbecue? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yeah, yeah, it's delicious, but there's also a bunch of
other really great restaurants, so barbecue. So I kind of
like would just look around the different neighborhoods and I
like walkability and also knowing that because you know, because
I live in New York and I have a whole
home setup that's you know, all the things that I
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need here.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Going somewhere new where you know you're only working, it's
kind of a different set of or it could be.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
A different set of needs, right Like I don't know
my hours, so I have different things that I need
to tick off like I and I also don't know
if I'm going to have so much time in between.
So I ended up going all around town and I
ended up picking a neighborhood to live in that to
set up an apartment, and that felt like I could
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get food number one, food number two that was near
that I could walk around in and be super happy,
uh and grab you know, you know, there was a
grocery store somewhere nearby, and there was also some stores
to walk around and peruse.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
And sometimes when you want to be.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Mindless and just amble and then exercise places like where
can you go grab a class and do the thing
that you need to do to move the body.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I gotta tell you that's that that I never I
understand the food the exercise class. People know this because
you know, at this point everyone knows I'm a little slothy,
is not ever.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
On my radar, not even kind of not even.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Not even a little bit like it happens to land
near me.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I'm like, oh, there you are. Do you go to
any exercise classes.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I have recently?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I have?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I have recently.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
The amount of concentration that she put into the answer
to answer than.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
To do a whole shortened suite on this.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
By the way, m hm, so you're gonna have not
much to contribute. Well, no, that's not that's.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Not for your say. I've been alive for forty one years,
so I've seen I've seen a class in my day,
but it's just not on my moving radar. I'll tell
you what I like to do when I move. I
need to No, I need two things in my house
or my apartment or whatever that are very important to me.
I need a candle that smells like pumpkin spice. I
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don't care what time of year it is.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Huh this this tracks with your Halloween love, This is true.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I need a cozy throw. Those are the two things.
And then it makes me feel like I'm a little
bit at home, like those are my two homey essentials.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Oh I have, My list is so much longer.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Tell me, well, okay, so I found the place and
then I go in and I, uh, it was furnished.
But then I'm like, I can I think I'm on
like the Home the Home HDTV.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Yeah, I think I've got my own show.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah of course you do.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
And there's a camera on me, and I'm and I
have some genius or not genius moves to be made,
and that there will be some sort of grating at
the end of the process.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Like that's how seriously I take it.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
And then I move furniture around, I get rid of some, I.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Put some in.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Uh. And then in this case, there was a run
to you know, a mega store in order to get
some throws. I went to my favorite candle shop and
got some candles. I because you know, it's going to
be a minute that I'm there.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I'm a little.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Bit of a I'm particular about my bedding.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Oh yeah, well there is. There was a trip to
get a nature pedic mattress topper. So I got a
mattress topper.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
What is it about the Nature's peedics that you there's
something you know.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
I try not to think of it if it's not
for that long.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I am always a little bit amazed that people aren't
more freaked out about sleeping on beds that five million other.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
People have slept on. Does that not freak you out?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
No? I know we I think we've talked about this
in uh when we traveled together. I do not. I
don't have that feeling. I could.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
You never saw the show where they bring the blue
light in and they get a look at all the
stains on the Oh mind, I'm just did you ever
see that?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
No? I mean, I know what the blue light is,
because you know, I love a dateline, But like that's
I'm not gonna blue light. I'm gonna blue light a
crime scene. I don't need to know if my bed's
a crime scene. What says, what are you gonna do?
Like if say you're.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Gonna do what I did, You're gonna take a trip
to nature pedic and you're gonna order yourself. That's true, Okay, okay, satine,
white sheets and a nice little comfy duvet, and you're
gonna put yourself together.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
But what are you doing when you just travel in
a hotel?
Speaker 3 (13:54):
You're not the pe nights. I'm just gonna I'm not
I'm gonna I'm gonna compartmentalize you're gonna you're with the
crime scene.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I'm okay with the crime scene, and I'm just gonna
hope it doesn't do too much damage.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah, that makes sense. Okay. What is something that you
thought like you had like in your mind, like, oh,
this is what Nashville's going to be like, and then
now that you're there, you're like, oh, no, that's this.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Well, my first visit to Music Row, like my first
visit down to the.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Broadway and where all the you know, mittle pubs and
the honky talks are and.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
It's a lot it's a little vagasy.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
They don't like it when you.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Say that, Oh they don't. The people of Nashville do
not like a comparison to Las Vegas.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
They don't.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Oh my god, well, thank god I did it here,
you know, in the comfort of my home. If I
was out with.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
A safe place, safe place, safe place.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Oh my god. What is it about the comparison? Do
you know what it is?
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I think because.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Nashville proper, Well, first of all, Nashville proper is a
very progressive, incredibly culturally rich and deeped in music town city,
and so there's like real talent and history and culture
to the place, and yes there's these you know, again,
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there's the kind of I do think like bachelorette parties
have become something very popular to do there, but it's
not the main event. And I think that that's the
part that seems a little bit more vagacy. But it's
really again, it's.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Not almost like the veigus thing like cheapens it.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah, yeah, it makes it seem like it's just for
debauchery or you know, like wild nights of drinking, dancing, whatever.
And really Nashville has so much to offer and all
these different incredible neighborhoods, and and you can go into
the pocket in these different pockets and you get different things.
In that way, it kind of reminds me of Los
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Angeles because they are you know, it's all connected by highways,
but but you can really drive twenty minutes and be
in a really different part of Nashville. But downtown Nashville
surprised me. I had not conjured in my minds what
I thought it was gonna look like, but it it
surprised me so and I the first time I went,
I just went in a car and we just drove
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down the street and on a Saturday night, and I
have been not surprised, just very happy that everything that
I'd heard about Nashville was true in this way, which
is that people are so welcoming, so welcoming, so kind,
so excited to have the show there, and it's been
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really nice, Like everyone's just really really nice, so nice
sometimes to get back to the exercise class, even though
I know it's not your favorite topic. I signed up
for a class, and you know, normally you can just
like slip into a class and you're like random, you know,
they put you on reformer number twenty nine and you're
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just a person in the class.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Nope, not in Nashville. In Nashville, I walked.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
In and it was like a Saturday morning, and I
probably was trying to like slink in and just like
get to my reformer and do whatever it.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Was I needed to do whatever.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
And the woman's got the you know the microphone that's
really close.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
For the Brittany Mike, the Brittany Mike.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yes, she's got the britty mic and I walk in
and she just zeros it on me and I'm like, oh, no, no, no,
I don't really want to be seen.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
And she's like hello, and I was like Hi, I'm
just I'm gonna go for here. I'm gonna be back. Okay,
is this your first time? Oh god, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna.
Oh what's your name, Jessica? Welcome to class? All right?
Oh she talked to me through that entire class.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
My goodness, So we do the is are a part
of you that thinks that she recognized that you're Jessica
Capsule and she honed in, I don't, I don't, I know,
this is the thing sometimes I.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Just don't know. All I know is that she told
me it was my own personal class.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
It was your opposer class.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
She told me I was crushing it. And by the way,
I know, I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
That's nice though, I like, I felt it was nice
as well.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
And you know, my language is words of affirmation. So
I was plenty welcomed and heartened by this, by the
by the environment and situation.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Is there any part of you that has had like
a moment where you're like.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
I don't belong here in Nashville.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Yeah, where you're like, I'm this is.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Yeah, no no not, I mean no, no, it's been great.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
No, it's so so Oh it's hot. She's real hot,
she's real hot. She's really hot and humid. Sometimes I
think my hairstyles think that they don't belong there because
you try and do your hair and like the air
conditioned trailer and then you walk out and it's like it's.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Like this is this is yeah, this is what I'm
going to be doing today. But no, it's fine. You
know what I do.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Love. Have you had a good storm? Oh my god,
so many And this is new to me. Light now
a lot.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
You know, when you're on sets, you've got generators and
oh yeah, I got trailers and you've got all these
things that you know, conduct electricity. So when there's like
being detected in your neighborhood, you literally shut down. No,
it's a mandatory thirty minute lightning delay, and so did
you just stop and then you.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Wait for it to pass and then you can get her. God,
that's so.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I never thought about that. In Los Angeles, I feel
like we're dealing with a lot of like, oh, there's
another police helicopter above me. Yeah, for the twentieth time.
Never I've never had to shut down because of lightning.
That's really that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Yeah, it has been really crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
We got a question and it actually made me laugh
a bit, and then I felt kind of bad for
laughing at this question. Someone wants to know if you've
had a good cry yet, An I had a good cry?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Sometimes when I move, I do. I feel like there
is a moving a mandatory moving cry. Like you're in
your you're in your space, and you're so happy to
be there. But there's just I feel like it's like
the newness and the vulnerability, and it's just there's the
moving cry.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Do you know what I'm talking about? Or I do?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
I do? I do? It doesn't mean that you're not happy. Yeah,
it's almost like a release of like so many emotions
and you're in a new spot and it's like this,
I'm gonna have a moving cry tonight.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I think I haven't because you know, there have been
places that I've moved before. Were you know, I mean
moving from Los Angeles to New York four years ago.
You that's a permanent, permanent move. So it's like you're
really thinking to yourself, there's it's multi layered because you've
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actually got a little doubt in there, right, like was
this right? I have done this? It's because of work,
and you're working, so it feels a little bit different.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
This feels like a move light where I.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Just get to kind of come and get all the
back of it, and then I get to do my work.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
And then you get to go back. Yeah, all right,
I need to know some behind the scenes. Oh, yes
you are, because this is we got to talk to
night one one. Yeah, so far in the cast, who
do you think you've bonded with the most.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Oh that's a good question.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
I know it's early days, right, so it's like you
haven't had a lot of time to spend with everybody.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
We've been we've been filming now for six weeks, and
my first work was with Michael who plays our son Okay,
and I adore him. He I feel so so lucky
to have such a talented and kind and just awesome
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person to work with. And it's a lot of getting
to know you so, learning about his life, and there's
a lot of you know, the way that we child
chat by the by the by the chairs in between
in between things, and the first day that we worked,
you know, we we just there's a lot of We
talked about this a little bit before when we were
talking about the plane crash episode and we were doing
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the recap and we were saying how most of our
Gray's life was on a studio and so going on
location was very different for us. Right now, this show
is mostly on location, so we're always in different places,
and so there's always just what we were talking about,
there's lightning that's coming, there's weather that's coming, there's a
range shower.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I feel like this is such a good way to
get to know the city though too. I just realized, yeah, yeah,
and it's incredible.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
I mean, you know, there's Nashville proper, but then as
you go out, you get into the more rural areas
and you get into like Franklin and Leaper's Fork and
they are the most beautiful, just.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Like Rolling Green Hills and these farms, and it is
it could not be more beautiful. But so I worked
with Michael the you know, right off that, and then Chris,
who I also adore and have.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Known for a really long time.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, you've worked with him before?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Does it?
Speaker 3 (23:03):
You have worked with him before? Right?
Speaker 2 (23:04):
You guys had one on the practice with him.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
I worked on the practice with him, and I gosh,
I mean I remember feeling like a baby actress, and
I remember feeling like he was not.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
A baby actor.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
He was accomplished, and I'd seen so many movies he'd
done that I love so much. I don't do you
guys remember Circle of Friends with Mini Driver?
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Circle of Friends? Is that what was called Circle?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
But I remember Batman and Robin.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Well, of course you do. But there was a movie
he did.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
With Mini Driver that was so I remember, being like
super romantic and just like I almost remember being it
being a little normal people Lee like the Yeah, I
love that, the predecessor to a normal people.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
They had normal vibes. He's so charming.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
He's just super charming and he's very funny and uh
and a real I mean he's been he's a real professional.
Do you know who you're working with that. I'm a
huge fan of yew LeAnn Riiames.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Because Coyote Ugly was a moment. Yeah, I was so
obsessed with her. I read recently she talked about how
her veneers sell out on the stage at one of
her concerts. Did you talk to you about this?
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Well no, I actually so you know, we're all getting
to know each other. And Leanne has had a concert
schedule that's been published, and I mean she's got concerts
to do so she comes in and out as well,
and so I follow her on socials and I actually
I saw her post about her veneers. Were they threatening
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to von or did they actually fall out and she
had to like put them back in?
Speaker 2 (24:41):
And I show that girl out.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
It made me, I think, I even commented it made
me love her even more.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
It made me love her even more.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
But she shared, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
That it happened and what she did with it, and
I think that it's actually, you know, I'm only six
weeks into knowing her, but it actually probably says a lot,
which is that she's just like she's game, and here
she is, you know, coming in and out and she's
going to Like she literally did a show in Hawaii
and then got on a plane and had like two
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connections to then arrive in Nashville who knows what time
in the morning, and then woke up for you know,
a five am call, and then was having a fitting
before she had hair and makeup, and then there we
were in a scene.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
So I mean, just I love I love the work.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Ethic, and I love the just like wanting to be
there and being game and.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
It's a really great group.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
So I mean, again, going back, I worked with Michael first,
then it was Chris.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
And then I you know, we have these two worlds.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Happening where there's these this emotional life and this family
and then you have you know, the squad, you have
the firefighters, and we actually have had such great occasion
to intermingle.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
And so I'm already completely completely in.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Love with Wannie and Hayley and it's just an hunter.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
It just it's been so much fun. So we're on
a group chat.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
We liked, well, you're the chats happened. I love it.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Oh, the chats happened.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
The chats happened, And uh, I love Kimberley Williams Paisley
so much.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
I asked it on the pod that, by the way,
I already know the answer to that question because I
asked it for you guys listening. But I already know
that you love her because you told me you love her.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
I know I do.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I've already had dinner with her multiple times. She and
I have gone on a hike. She's so awesome and
she is our she's our nine one one. What's your emergency? Oh,
she's the the yeah, the part that like you know,
she's the the operator.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Has she opened up to you about her voice disorder. Yes, yes,
for those that are listening and don't know what, can
you explain?
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yes, so she so she was in her voice was
in real peril. She thought she was not going to
have a voice anymore, and so she had to go
through a lot of discovery to basically figure out what
was going on with her.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
And then was it her vocal chords.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
It was her vocal chords, but connected to a whole
bunch of other stuff that I thought was fascinating. And
I actually think she should come on and talk about
it because I know that you know, I know that
it's it was connected to something that I know is
in everyone's life and and and would be certainly very
relatable and fascinating because when I hear her talk about it,
she also has done the day. I would not be
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doing it at a service if I were going to explain it,
because I probably also just get it wrong.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
But she is a real authority.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
That's very scary. Yes, yes, it is very very scary. Okay,
we have to have her on and talk about this more.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Yes, I know.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
And she's married to that cute Brad Paisley, who's such
an incredible musician, and then they have these two boys
and just I mean, they could not be I couldn't
be cuter.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
I adore her. But yeah, we've got a group chat happening.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
We've got we've known each other long enough now to
actually trust each other enough to get a little naughty,
like sometimes we'll just have a little have a little like.
It's funny how when you get to know what.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
We talked about behind the scenes, pranking, there's a.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
There's a there's a there's a people can be a
little a little naughty, but also just like they're a
little more free.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
I have to say I had maybe what is a
common recurring nightmare for most people, happened to me on
my first day of work, despite all of my best
efforts to get myself ready in all the ways and
set my coffee maker and and and and set out all.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
I even think I set up my outfit, my first
day of work outfit.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
But I had my bag already packed, I had my
work bag, I had my keys out, I had everything
everything everything. I set my alarm, I set up back
up alarm, and I go to sleep that night and
I don't even think I slept all that well because
I was aware of the fact that the alarm was
going to go off. And then I, you know, I
finally do wake up, and I look at my phone
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on my bedside table, and.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
My alarm did not go off.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
And it is now twenty minutes before my call time,
and I am fifteen minutes away from the studio and
or the location, and I have to take a shower,
like I'm someone who has to wash their hair in
the morning before getting.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Ready for all the things.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
So I fly out of bed with that like the
kind of like heart is in your throat type feeling.
And I mean again, I don't like to, you know, underperform.
I like to be there, especially in the first fucking day.
And so I fly out of bed. I take the
quickest shower I've ever taken in my life.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
And then I get into the car and throw.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
All my stuff in of course, and evitably probably drop
a couple things have to pick them up.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
It seems like the world is against me.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I then center myself once I get into the car
with my hands attended to, and remind myself that I
have lots of things to live for and for children,
and I cannot drive like an actual maniac to get
there and I go off.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
I did.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Actually I did end up taking a four minute shower.
I do believe I got a lot done in those
four minutes, and uh, clean and fresh.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
I head off to work and I think I ended
up being.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Like eight minutes late, which was a miracle, and nobody
bad it an eye and I was ready for camera.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
You know exactly what I was meant to be. I
will say I don't have a ton of pictures.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Because actually someone else was asking me about them, and
I have been trying something.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
I know that this is a lot.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
People talk about this a lot, but it really really
has helped me. I have been practicing I don't bring
my phone into set. I mean, I will have my
phone for hair and makeup, because you're sitting there and
you're whatever, getting emails out or looking at socials blah
blah blah. But when I go to I have like
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a very focused mindset.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
I keep saying this, and.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
It's because it feels incredibly true and also sort of different,
because I think I've mentioned, you know, I've kind of
come in on other shows that weren't at the beginning
of the show, and this is a beginning, and I've
been really, really trying very hard to stay present for
the beginning this of it all. Yeah, and I feel
like our phones, obviously steal are focused. So I've been like,
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I haven't been taking a ton of pictures and I
haven't been having my phone with me.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
So it's been it's actually been great.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Wait, I think that this is going back a little bit,
but I just realized your costume. It reminded me of
something that I feel like people might not know, and
it's Gray's anatomy Arizona related. On your very last episode,
you wore a very specific piece of clothing and I
remember you telling me that the audience had been dying
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for Arizona. Do you know what I'm gonna say, Yeah,
I'll let you reveal it, but dying from Arizona to
wear this one piece of clothing and I'm not sure
you ever did. I didn't, which was never she was
so weird. And then in the last episode you requested
it yourself. Can you tell a little bit about that?
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Since you did, It's so funny because you just said
that and I completely forgot about that, And as soon
as you said I was like, oh, yes, So I
don't know how I knew it. It must have been
like message boards or socials or whatever. But there was
this like big campaign almost how have we not seen
Arizona in a plaid flannel a plod flannel shirt.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
And I was like, I.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Don't know how we've never seen her in a plaid
flannel shirt.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
She just never has.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
And so I ended up wearing my own. It was
my own personal was it plaid flannel? I still have it?
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I just remember seeing you and I remember that scene
specifically and you being like, this is this is play
popular demand? Yeah totally. And I thought it was so
interesting and I thought it was so cute that you
wore it in that last episode that's yours.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
I wear it in the scene when you're getting married
and you come down.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
And I come in, Yeah, yeah yeah, And I smooched, yeah, yeah, smooches, Yeah, yeah,
I did.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
I did. The wardrobe was so much fun.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
I mean, the wardrobe really it says so much about you,
and it's a very involved process. We definitely do not
just like, you know, slap some clothes on. I always
think about Kerrie Washington and Scandal and how involved she
was in the costume design and how she would talk
so much about the partnership between she and the coster
designer whose name I don't know, but I.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Know that it was a really involved Oh I didn't
know that actually.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Yeah. And also like the beginnings where she has the
hat and she's like there was her outfits were always
so like sharp and they said so much about her.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
I'm so excited for this. I'm excited for the dress.
I'm excited for all the naughty stories to come. I
know it's a little trustfall situation happening over there on
that also, I mean behind the scenes, I'm a little
sneaky sneaking into the you know, I like, I like,
I like country music, and we are in love country music.
I know.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
I actually I was saying to Leanne, I mean again,
how I think I sound when I sing and how
I really sound when I sing are probably different.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
There's a disparity there.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
But it takes really a lot of confidence for someone
like me to.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Say to her like, I feel like we need a
karaoke scene.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
She and I shut up, you pitched a karaoke scene
and I so let me get this straight. Jessica Capshaw,
who has joked that you really the musical episode of
Greens and Nattie was like, you auditioned and it didn't
go so well. You've pitched on your new show that
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you and Leanne Rhymes will do a karaoke scene together.
Are you out of your mind? Honestly? Honestly, she's so kind.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
She would probably figure out a way to make her.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Say, Leanne, I'm gonna have to like email her and
be like a weren't mission dude?
Speaker 1 (35:02):
God, she's so great.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
I think this is where we end it.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
By the way, we have so many tricks of our
sleeves with regards to We were very excited about the
socials where once we start getting okay, you know, premiere time,
we are definitely plotting and planning some really good for everybody.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Yeah, we're gonna tip talk.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
She's recall it what it is, all right, let's leave
it there today. We will. I will be mining for
more information as the season goes on, and I will
be here to tell it all.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Just spill.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Let's call it capsuaw. The e end of the episod
Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camil Luddington,
an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Well, hello, Hello, Hello, Hello Call It crew, and welcome
to another episode of Call It What It Is. Can
you hear my dogs? No?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Good because I have four of them in the background
and they've probably seen, like, you know, a leaf blowing by.
I decided that's a threat to the house.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I feel like you've had a lot of dog content lately.
I've noticed on your Instagram account I have you looking
on you're looking for a dog deal?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Are you putting.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Out any any you know what?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Yes, you're gonna start selling some dogbeds.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Do you know how much I'm spending on my dogs?
Any deal? That's why I think I deal with kibble.
Whatever I can get for those dogs that I don't
have to pay for, I'll do.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yes, well you know the dog the dog industry is
like a billion dollar industry.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I've thought about getting in on that. I could do
some dog business. Why not? I love my dogs?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Are all you love your dogs? Dog?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I have doodles?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Can I tell you what I read about doodles?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Do you know?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Okay, so I've seen this thing on TikTok where people
are positive. It's not I've seen this thing on TikTok
where people are like the worst the top breeds that
I would like. They're like a vet or something. They're
like that they would never ever get and always are
the the doodles they're in there.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Jess, I love my doodles.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I know your doodles are pretty well behaved, though, or
like exceptionally well behaved. Apparently there's a lot of unhinged doodles.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Oh well, I have one doodle that's very refined and
if he had his dog voice sounds like yeah, maybe
like your dad.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
He's a like Martin Ludington.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah, yeah, you've said this, and cow's a little out
of control.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
He's a surfer dude.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yes, But I'm talking about dogs that are like, you know,
it's almost like a rabid situation.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Like they might be dumb, like dumb, dumb.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Dumb, just like rebellious.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Oh like oppositional defiance disorder. Sure, they're like I'm not coming,
I'm going.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I mean, they're untrainable. I'm just I'm just telling you
what i've seen on the talk.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Okay, yeah, no, but I see that. I see that well,
I had him.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I ran into a Golden Retriever the other day and
I locked eyes with this Golden Retriever and I thought,
I need a Golden Retriever.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
But it's the hair.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
The reason why I'm in the doodle business is because
the hair shedding is just I have four children. I
think I'm gonna add a lot of hair being shed
and all over my house.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, I don't know. That's I have a lot of
cream for a reason. Cream, Yes, because I like cream.
SOFA like a lot of like because like that way,
I can't see the two inches of like Casper hair
because Casper is like a lot of retriever. Yes, yeah,
you can't.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, I mean the dogs. The dogs. Well, I like
your dog content and I think you should keep it going.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
And I think that any's listening that is in you know,
charge of ad dollars for any kind of dog of
you you just really reached out to you send them.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yes, just send me the dollars.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah, you speaking of your puppies.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yeah, you've moved to Nashville.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Have you put any of the dogs on the plane
with you and know them?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
No, No, they don't go to Nashville.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Well, you know it's a it's a it's a dare
I say because it sounds a little bananas.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
I live in New York and I.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Commute commute to I know, but I didn't know if
you did like a bark. Have you heard of bark Air?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I have heard of bark Air.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
But also can't you just basically take dogs on the
plane now? Anyways?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, but bark here is different, like if you this
is not an ad for Barcare and I've never done Barcare, but.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
If you like to pay her, she will take your dogs.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Off flight all over the show off, fly all over
the world. When you get on, the dogs fly first. Yeah,
they get treats when they get on, like some sort
of like caviar situation. You are I'm not kidding.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
No, yes, dogs even like caviar. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
It's like it's they are exceptional treats. There's some sort
of dog chef in the back, like whipping stuff up,
and they get they get on the plane and you
they're basically bringing you on the flight.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
You're their plus one.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
You're the plus one on barcaer. Yes, you're the unaccompanied minor. Yeah,
I'm just sugg yeah, I'm just suggesting if you feel
like Gus needs to come with you in Nashville, you
gotta do a little you know.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Okay, all right, yeah, okay, Well we're not there. We're
not there because we're back in. We're back and forth
and summertime and the kids are out of school. So
you know, like today earlier, I had Eve jump on
because she really wanted to see Camilla first. She's about
to go off to camp. So we got a lot
of comings and goings. And you know, every episode of
television is different. Sometimes you're working a ton in an
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episode and sometimes you're not. And so for when I'm working,
I'm there and I'm present and.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I'm in and it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
And then when I'm not working, instead of living my
life in Nashville, where I don't live, although I have,
turns out I have so many friends there.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
I have just been coming home.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
So it's actually so far been knocking on all the wood,
but really great. But it's but I did go there
with my moving mindset on. And I mean, I'm gonna
tell you so, I'm sure I've mentioned this before, but
as the daughter of an actress, my mom was always
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doing movies, and at the time, movies were all wherever
they were meant to take place. So we were in
Sri Lanka and London making Indiana Jones in the Temple
of Doom.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
She was in Japan.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Making this movie with Michael Douglas called Black Rain Andy Garcia.
I didn't go there for that, but then, uh, you know,
it was all over the place, is the point, like,
and so I would just be I would.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Come along for the ride, huh.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
And because of that, I.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Went to probably something like it sounds it sounds good,
and I think it's pretty much accurate, which is like
I went to probably thirteen different schools before I was thirteen.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
And then at that point I was like, Mom, like,
we gotta we got we gotta like, we gotta lay
some roots here. So we did.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Stay in Los Angeles, and I really sort of like
rooted from seventh grade on.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
So seventh through twelfth I was in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
But I moved around a lot as the point, and
my mom was always really good at setting up these
brewery homes and so I feel kind of comfortable doing that.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
And now in my own life, I move around a lot.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
And so I have like a mindset that I get
into when I go to a new place. And I
love going to new places, and it pretty much follows
my interests. So I get to know a new city
based on what I like the most.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
So the number one thing that I like the most
is food.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
So yeah, I go on all the websites that I trust,
or all the different blogs or blogs and all the
things to see sort of like where the best food is.
And usually the best food I have found is in
the neighborhoods that I'm interested in, So I'll find that
I'll plot my course. And so when I landed in Nashville,
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I had a fitting that day, but I knew I
had like two or three hours. And a friend of
mine who's been living there for the past four years, said, oh,
you've got to go check out this restaurant called a Piece.
It's on twelve on twelve twelfth Avenue South, and I
was like, okay, great, and I went and I got lunch,
and then I just walked and you just learn all
these different new neighborhoods.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
So I'd gotten a piece of that, and then I'd go.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Wait, I have a question, then, so are you kind
of saying that you almost pick a neighborhood around the restaurant.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Ish to walk to it, like I'm thinking right now,
like I love in and out here, Like do I
need to be moving? Do I need to move to
place that's closer to a walking in and out for
my cheese fries? Yeah? You might, you might. I've never
heard of this. I'm known for.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Planning an entire day based on a freid Yeah, like
where do I want to go to lunch?
Speaker 3 (08:46):
And where do I want to go to dinner?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Wait? No, that does make sense. I have traveled with
you exactly. See, you know this makes sense, and it's,
by the way, it's the most delicious traveling I could
ever do.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Okay, so I first triangulate where that all the good
food is, and then I get to understand the neighborhood's better.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
What's the food?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
And Nashville no, like what is it? No barbecue? Oh barbecue? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yeah, yeah, it's delicious, but there's also a bunch of
other really great restaurants, so barbecue. So I kind of
like would just look around the different neighborhoods and I
like walkability and also knowing that because you know, because
I live in New York and I have a whole
home setup that's you know, all the things that I
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need here.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Going somewhere new where you know you're only working, it's
kind of a different set of or it could be.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
A different set of needs, right Like I don't know
my hours, so I have different things that I need
to tick off like I and I also don't know
if I'm going to have so much time in between.
So I ended up going all around town and I
ended up picking a neighborhood to live in that to
set up an apartment, and that felt like I could
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get food number one, food number two that was near
that I could walk around in and be super happy,
uh and grab you know, you know, there was a
grocery store somewhere nearby, and there was also some stores
to walk around and peruse.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
And sometimes when you want to be.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Mindless and just amble and then exercise places like where
can you go grab a class and do the thing
that you need to do to move the body.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I gotta tell you that's that that I never I
understand the food the exercise class. People know this because
you know, at this point everyone knows I'm a little slothy,
is not ever.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
On my radar, not even kind of not even.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Not even a little bit like it happens to land
near me.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I'm like, oh, there you are. Do you go to
any exercise classes.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I have recently?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I have?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I have recently.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
The amount of concentration that she put into the answer
to answer than.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
To do a whole shortened suite on this.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
By the way, m hm, so you're gonna have not
much to contribute. Well, no, that's not that's.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Not for your say. I've been alive for forty one years,
so I've seen I've seen a class in my day,
but it's just not on my moving radar. I'll tell
you what I like to do when I move. I
need to No, I need two things in my house
or my apartment or whatever that are very important to me.
I need a candle that smells like pumpkin spice. I
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don't care what time of year it is.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Huh this this tracks with your Halloween love, This is true.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I need a cozy throw. Those are the two things.
And then it makes me feel like I'm a little
bit at home, like those are my two homey essentials.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Oh I have, My list is so much longer.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Tell me, well, okay, so I found the place and
then I go in and I, uh, it was furnished.
But then I'm like, I can I think I'm on
like the Home the Home HDTV.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Yeah, I think I've got my own show.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah of course you do.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
And there's a camera on me, and I'm and I
have some genius or not genius moves to be made,
and that there will be some sort of grating at
the end of the process.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Like that's how seriously I take it.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
And then I move furniture around, I get rid of some, I.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Put some in.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Uh. And then in this case, there was a run
to you know, a mega store in order to get
some throws. I went to my favorite candle shop and
got some candles. I because you know, it's going to
be a minute that I'm there.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I'm a little.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Bit of a I'm particular about my bedding.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Oh yeah, well there is. There was a trip to
get a nature pedic mattress topper. So I got a
mattress topper.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
What is it about the Nature's peedics that you there's
something you know.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
I try not to think of it if it's not
for that long.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I am always a little bit amazed that people aren't
more freaked out about sleeping on beds that five million other.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
People have slept on. Does that not freak you out?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
No? I know we I think we've talked about this
in uh when we traveled together. I do not. I
don't have that feeling. I could.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
You never saw the show where they bring the blue
light in and they get a look at all the
stains on the Oh mind, I'm just did you ever
see that?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
No? I mean, I know what the blue light is,
because you know, I love a dateline, But like that's
I'm not gonna blue light. I'm gonna blue light a
crime scene. I don't need to know if my bed's
a crime scene. What says, what are you gonna do?
Like if say you're.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Gonna do what I did, You're gonna take a trip
to nature pedic and you're gonna order yourself. That's true, Okay, okay, satine,
white sheets and a nice little comfy duvet, and you're
gonna put yourself together.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
But what are you doing when you just travel in
a hotel?
Speaker 3 (13:54):
You're not the pe nights. I'm just gonna I'm not
I'm gonna I'm gonna compartmentalize you're gonna you're with the
crime scene.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I'm okay with the crime scene, and I'm just gonna
hope it doesn't do too much damage.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah, that makes sense. Okay. What is something that you
thought like you had like in your mind, like, oh,
this is what Nashville's going to be like, and then
now that you're there, you're like, oh, no, that's this.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Well, my first visit to Music Row, like my first
visit down to the.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Broadway and where all the you know, mittle pubs and
the honky talks are and.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
It's a lot it's a little vagasy.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
They don't like it when you.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Say that, Oh they don't. The people of Nashville do
not like a comparison to Las Vegas.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
They don't.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Oh my god, well, thank god I did it here,
you know, in the comfort of my home. If I
was out with.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
A safe place, safe place, safe place.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Oh my god. What is it about the comparison? Do
you know what it is?
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I think because.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Nashville proper, Well, first of all, Nashville proper is a
very progressive, incredibly culturally rich and deeped in music town city,
and so there's like real talent and history and culture
to the place, and yes there's these you know, again,
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there's the kind of I do think like bachelorette parties
have become something very popular to do there, but it's
not the main event. And I think that that's the
part that seems a little bit more vagacy. But it's
really again, it's.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Not almost like the veigus thing like cheapens it.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah, yeah, it makes it seem like it's just for
debauchery or you know, like wild nights of drinking, dancing, whatever.
And really Nashville has so much to offer and all
these different incredible neighborhoods, and and you can go into
the pocket in these different pockets and you get different things.
In that way, it kind of reminds me of Los
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Angeles because they are you know, it's all connected by highways,
but but you can really drive twenty minutes and be
in a really different part of Nashville. But downtown Nashville
surprised me. I had not conjured in my minds what
I thought it was gonna look like, but it it
surprised me so and I the first time I went,
I just went in a car and we just drove
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down the street and on a Saturday night, and I
have been not surprised, just very happy that everything that
I'd heard about Nashville was true in this way, which
is that people are so welcoming, so welcoming, so kind,
so excited to have the show there, and it's been
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really nice, Like everyone's just really really nice, so nice
sometimes to get back to the exercise class, even though
I know it's not your favorite topic. I signed up
for a class, and you know, normally you can just
like slip into a class and you're like random, you know,
they put you on reformer number twenty nine and you're
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just a person in the class.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Nope, not in Nashville. In Nashville, I walked.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
In and it was like a Saturday morning, and I
probably was trying to like slink in and just like
get to my reformer and do whatever it.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Was I needed to do whatever.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
And the woman's got the you know the microphone that's
really close.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
For the Brittany Mike, the Brittany Mike.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yes, she's got the britty mic and I walk in
and she just zeros it on me and I'm like, oh, no, no, no,
I don't really want to be seen.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
And she's like hello, and I was like Hi, I'm
just I'm gonna go for here. I'm gonna be back. Okay,
is this your first time? Oh god, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna.
Oh what's your name, Jessica? Welcome to class? All right?
Oh she talked to me through that entire class.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
My goodness, So we do the is are a part
of you that thinks that she recognized that you're Jessica
Capsule and she honed in, I don't, I don't, I know,
this is the thing sometimes I.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Just don't know. All I know is that she told
me it was my own personal class.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
It was your opposer class.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
She told me I was crushing it. And by the way,
I know, I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
That's nice though, I like, I felt it was nice
as well.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
And you know, my language is words of affirmation. So
I was plenty welcomed and heartened by this, by the
by the environment and situation.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Is there any part of you that has had like
a moment where you're like.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
I don't belong here in Nashville.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Yeah, where you're like, I'm this is.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Yeah, no no not, I mean no, no, it's been great.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
No, it's so so Oh it's hot. She's real hot,
she's real hot. She's really hot and humid. Sometimes I
think my hairstyles think that they don't belong there because
you try and do your hair and like the air
conditioned trailer and then you walk out and it's like it's.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Like this is this is yeah, this is what I'm
going to be doing today. But no, it's fine. You
know what I do.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Love. Have you had a good storm? Oh my god,
so many And this is new to me. Light now
a lot.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
You know, when you're on sets, you've got generators and
oh yeah, I got trailers and you've got all these
things that you know, conduct electricity. So when there's like
being detected in your neighborhood, you literally shut down. No,
it's a mandatory thirty minute lightning delay, and so did
you just stop and then you.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Wait for it to pass and then you can get her. God,
that's so.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I never thought about that. In Los Angeles, I feel
like we're dealing with a lot of like, oh, there's
another police helicopter above me. Yeah, for the twentieth time.
Never I've never had to shut down because of lightning.
That's really that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Yeah, it has been really crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
We got a question and it actually made me laugh
a bit, and then I felt kind of bad for
laughing at this question. Someone wants to know if you've
had a good cry yet, An I had a good cry?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Sometimes when I move, I do. I feel like there
is a moving a mandatory moving cry. Like you're in
your you're in your space, and you're so happy to
be there. But there's just I feel like it's like
the newness and the vulnerability, and it's just there's the
moving cry.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Do you know what I'm talking about? Or I do?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
I do? I do? It doesn't mean that you're not happy. Yeah,
it's almost like a release of like so many emotions
and you're in a new spot and it's like this,
I'm gonna have a moving cry tonight.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I think I haven't because you know, there have been
places that I've moved before. Were you know, I mean
moving from Los Angeles to New York four years ago.
You that's a permanent, permanent move. So it's like you're
really thinking to yourself, there's it's multi layered because you've
(20:53):
actually got a little doubt in there, right, like was
this right? I have done this? It's because of work,
and you're working, so it feels a little bit different.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
This feels like a move light where I.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Just get to kind of come and get all the
back of it, and then I get to do my work.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
And then you get to go back. Yeah, all right,
I need to know some behind the scenes. Oh, yes
you are, because this is we got to talk to
night one one. Yeah, so far in the cast, who
do you think you've bonded with the most.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Oh that's a good question.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
I know it's early days, right, so it's like you
haven't had a lot of time to spend with everybody.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
We've been we've been filming now for six weeks, and
my first work was with Michael who plays our son Okay,
and I adore him. He I feel so so lucky
to have such a talented and kind and just awesome
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person to work with. And it's a lot of getting
to know you so, learning about his life, and there's
a lot of you know, the way that we child
chat by the by the by the chairs in between
in between things, and the first day that we worked,
you know, we we just there's a lot of We
talked about this a little bit before when we were
talking about the plane crash episode and we were doing
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the recap and we were saying how most of our
Gray's life was on a studio and so going on
location was very different for us. Right now, this show
is mostly on location, so we're always in different places,
and so there's always just what we were talking about,
there's lightning that's coming, there's weather that's coming, there's a
range shower.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I feel like this is such a good way to
get to know the city though too. I just realized, yeah, yeah,
and it's incredible.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
I mean, you know, there's Nashville proper, but then as
you go out, you get into the more rural areas
and you get into like Franklin and Leaper's Fork and
they are the most beautiful, just.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Like Rolling Green Hills and these farms, and it is
it could not be more beautiful. But so I worked
with Michael the you know, right off that, and then Chris,
who I also adore and have.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Known for a really long time.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, you've worked with him before?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Does it?
Speaker 3 (23:03):
You have worked with him before? Right?
Speaker 2 (23:04):
You guys had one on the practice with him.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
I worked on the practice with him, and I gosh,
I mean I remember feeling like a baby actress, and
I remember feeling like he was not.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
A baby actor.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
He was accomplished, and I'd seen so many movies he'd
done that I love so much. I don't do you
guys remember Circle of Friends with Mini Driver?
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Circle of Friends? Is that what was called Circle?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
But I remember Batman and Robin.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Well, of course you do. But there was a movie
he did.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
With Mini Driver that was so I remember, being like
super romantic and just like I almost remember being it
being a little normal people Lee like the Yeah, I
love that, the predecessor to a normal people.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
They had normal vibes. He's so charming.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
He's just super charming and he's very funny and uh
and a real I mean he's been he's a real professional.
Do you know who you're working with that. I'm a
huge fan of yew LeAnn Riiames.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Because Coyote Ugly was a moment. Yeah, I was so
obsessed with her. I read recently she talked about how
her veneers sell out on the stage at one of
her concerts. Did you talk to you about this?
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Well no, I actually so you know, we're all getting
to know each other. And Leanne has had a concert
schedule that's been published, and I mean she's got concerts
to do so she comes in and out as well,
and so I follow her on socials and I actually
I saw her post about her veneers. Were they threatening
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to von or did they actually fall out and she
had to like put them back in?
Speaker 2 (24:41):
And I show that girl out.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
It made me, I think, I even commented it made
me love her even more.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
It made me love her even more.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
But she shared, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
That it happened and what she did with it, and
I think that it's actually, you know, I'm only six
weeks into knowing her, but it actually probably says a lot,
which is that she's just like she's game, and here
she is, you know, coming in and out and she's
going to Like she literally did a show in Hawaii
and then got on a plane and had like two
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connections to then arrive in Nashville who knows what time
in the morning, and then woke up for you know,
a five am call, and then was having a fitting
before she had hair and makeup, and then there we
were in a scene.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
So I mean, just I love I love the work.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Ethic, and I love the just like wanting to be
there and being game and.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
It's a really great group.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
So I mean, again, going back, I worked with Michael first,
then it was Chris.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
And then I you know, we have these two worlds.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Happening where there's these this emotional life and this family
and then you have you know, the squad, you have
the firefighters, and we actually have had such great occasion
to intermingle.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
And so I'm already completely completely in.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Love with Wannie and Hayley and it's just an hunter.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
It just it's been so much fun. So we're on
a group chat.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
We liked, well, you're the chats happened. I love it.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Oh, the chats happened.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
The chats happened, And uh, I love Kimberley Williams Paisley
so much.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
I asked it on the pod that, by the way,
I already know the answer to that question because I
asked it for you guys listening. But I already know
that you love her because you told me you love her.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
I know I do.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I've already had dinner with her multiple times. She and
I have gone on a hike. She's so awesome and
she is our she's our nine one one. What's your emergency? Oh,
she's the the yeah, the part that like you know,
she's the the operator.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Has she opened up to you about her voice disorder. Yes, yes,
for those that are listening and don't know what, can
you explain?
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yes, so she so she was in her voice was
in real peril. She thought she was not going to
have a voice anymore, and so she had to go
through a lot of discovery to basically figure out what
was going on with her.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
And then was it her vocal chords.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
It was her vocal chords, but connected to a whole
bunch of other stuff that I thought was fascinating. And
I actually think she should come on and talk about
it because I know that you know, I know that
it's it was connected to something that I know is
in everyone's life and and and would be certainly very
relatable and fascinating because when I hear her talk about it,
she also has done the day. I would not be
(27:24):
doing it at a service if I were going to explain it,
because I probably also just get it wrong.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
But she is a real authority.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
That's very scary. Yes, yes, it is very very scary. Okay,
we have to have her on and talk about this more.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Yes, I know.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
And she's married to that cute Brad Paisley, who's such
an incredible musician, and then they have these two boys
and just I mean, they could not be I couldn't
be cuter.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
I adore her. But yeah, we've got a group chat happening.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
We've got we've known each other long enough now to
actually trust each other enough to get a little naughty,
like sometimes we'll just have a little have a little like.
It's funny how when you get to know what.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
We talked about behind the scenes, pranking, there's a.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
There's a there's a there's a people can be a
little a little naughty, but also just like they're a
little more free.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
I have to say I had maybe what is a
common recurring nightmare for most people, happened to me on
my first day of work, despite all of my best
efforts to get myself ready in all the ways and
set my coffee maker and and and and set out all.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
I even think I set up my outfit, my first
day of work outfit.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
But I had my bag already packed, I had my
work bag, I had my keys out, I had everything
everything everything. I set my alarm, I set up back
up alarm, and I go to sleep that night and
I don't even think I slept all that well because
I was aware of the fact that the alarm was
going to go off. And then I, you know, I
finally do wake up, and I look at my phone
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on my bedside table, and.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
My alarm did not go off.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
And it is now twenty minutes before my call time,
and I am fifteen minutes away from the studio and
or the location, and I have to take a shower,
like I'm someone who has to wash their hair in
the morning before getting.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Ready for all the things.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
So I fly out of bed with that like the
kind of like heart is in your throat type feeling.
And I mean again, I don't like to, you know, underperform.
I like to be there, especially in the first fucking day.
And so I fly out of bed. I take the
quickest shower I've ever taken in my life.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
And then I get into the car and throw.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
All my stuff in of course, and evitably probably drop
a couple things have to pick them up.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
It seems like the world is against me.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I then center myself once I get into the car
with my hands attended to, and remind myself that I
have lots of things to live for and for children,
and I cannot drive like an actual maniac to get
there and I go off.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
I did.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Actually I did end up taking a four minute shower.
I do believe I got a lot done in those
four minutes, and uh, clean and fresh.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
I head off to work and I think I ended
up being.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Like eight minutes late, which was a miracle, and nobody
bad it an eye and I was ready for camera.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
You know exactly what I was meant to be. I
will say I don't have a ton of pictures.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Because actually someone else was asking me about them, and
I have been trying something.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
I know that this is a lot.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
People talk about this a lot, but it really really
has helped me. I have been practicing I don't bring
my phone into set. I mean, I will have my
phone for hair and makeup, because you're sitting there and
you're whatever, getting emails out or looking at socials blah
blah blah. But when I go to I have like
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a very focused mindset.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
I keep saying this, and.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
It's because it feels incredibly true and also sort of different,
because I think I've mentioned, you know, I've kind of
come in on other shows that weren't at the beginning
of the show, and this is a beginning, and I've
been really, really trying very hard to stay present for
the beginning this of it all. Yeah, and I feel
like our phones, obviously steal are focused. So I've been like,
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I haven't been taking a ton of pictures and I
haven't been having my phone with me.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
So it's been it's actually been great.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Wait, I think that this is going back a little bit,
but I just realized your costume. It reminded me of
something that I feel like people might not know, and
it's Gray's anatomy Arizona related. On your very last episode,
you wore a very specific piece of clothing and I
remember you telling me that the audience had been dying
(31:58):
for Arizona. Do you know what I'm gonna say, Yeah,
I'll let you reveal it, but dying from Arizona to
wear this one piece of clothing and I'm not sure
you ever did. I didn't, which was never she was
so weird. And then in the last episode you requested
it yourself. Can you tell a little bit about that?
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Since you did, It's so funny because you just said
that and I completely forgot about that, And as soon
as you said I was like, oh, yes, So I
don't know how I knew it. It must have been
like message boards or socials or whatever. But there was
this like big campaign almost how have we not seen
Arizona in a plaid flannel a plod flannel shirt.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
And I was like, I.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Don't know how we've never seen her in a plaid
flannel shirt.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
She just never has.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
And so I ended up wearing my own. It was
my own personal was it plaid flannel? I still have it?
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I just remember seeing you and I remember that scene
specifically and you being like, this is this is play
popular demand? Yeah totally. And I thought it was so
interesting and I thought it was so cute that you
wore it in that last episode that's yours.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
I wear it in the scene when you're getting married
and you come down.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
And I come in, Yeah, yeah yeah, And I smooched, yeah, yeah, smooches, Yeah, yeah,
I did.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
I did. The wardrobe was so much fun.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
I mean, the wardrobe really it says so much about you,
and it's a very involved process. We definitely do not
just like, you know, slap some clothes on. I always
think about Kerrie Washington and Scandal and how involved she
was in the costume design and how she would talk
so much about the partnership between she and the coster
designer whose name I don't know, but I.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Know that it was a really involved Oh I didn't
know that actually.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Yeah. And also like the beginnings where she has the
hat and she's like there was her outfits were always
so like sharp and they said so much about her.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
I'm so excited for this. I'm excited for the dress.
I'm excited for all the naughty stories to come. I
know it's a little trustfall situation happening over there on
that also, I mean behind the scenes, I'm a little
sneaky sneaking into the you know, I like, I like,
I like country music, and we are in love country music.
I know.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
I actually I was saying to Leanne, I mean again,
how I think I sound when I sing and how
I really sound when I sing are probably different.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
There's a disparity there.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
But it takes really a lot of confidence for someone
like me to.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Say to her like, I feel like we need a
karaoke scene.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
She and I shut up, you pitched a karaoke scene
and I so let me get this straight. Jessica Capshaw,
who has joked that you really the musical episode of
Greens and Nattie was like, you auditioned and it didn't
go so well. You've pitched on your new show that
(34:43):
you and Leanne Rhymes will do a karaoke scene together.
Are you out of your mind? Honestly? Honestly, she's so kind.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
She would probably figure out a way to make her.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Say, Leanne, I'm gonna have to like email her and
be like a weren't mission dude?
Speaker 1 (35:02):
God, she's so great.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
I think this is where we end it.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
By the way, we have so many tricks of our
sleeves with regards to We were very excited about the
socials where once we start getting okay, you know, premiere time,
we are definitely plotting and planning some really good for everybody.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Yeah, we're gonna tip talk.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
She's recall it what it is, all right, let's leave
it there today. We will. I will be mining for
more information as the season goes on, and I will
be here to tell it all.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Just spill.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Let's call it capsuaw. The e end of the episod
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