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September 17, 2025 15 mins

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Jessica and Camilla are not on the same pumpkin flavored page when it comes to Halloween decor.Find out who's been stocking up on gourds in September as the Call It Crew tries to 'squash' a decoration debate. Is it too soon to get into the spooky spirit?

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Call It what It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington,
an iHeartRadio podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Well, hello, Hello, Hello, Hello Call It crew, and welcome
to another episode of Short and Sweet.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Be honest, is this gonna be your favorite episode ever?
It's my favorite?

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Whatever, guys, it's a pumpkin Spices.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Episode, which is you know, we're not even in October
and I'm actually already wondering what you've done for Halloween
at your house.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Well, there is a giant pumpkin head like man that
greets you at the door and he says, up be Halloween.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
He is out, and.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
I've already had my first pumpkin spice latte?

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Have you?

Speaker 2 (00:54):
I went two days and and you know what I
did is I had Hayden come with me, and I said, Hayden,
to indoctrinate you basic, you know, basic girl, right of passage.
I was like, Hayden, put on your rugs, Hayden, it's
time for you to see the world. And I took
it to Starbucks and I said, one, do youc have

(01:15):
pumpkins spice with this little one here?

Speaker 1 (01:17):
And she was like in heaven. She was in heaven.
She drank that thing in like one minute and I
was like, girl, girl dead.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, she loved it. So I've already been. Hayden's now
part of it. She's been and she's basic.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Did it? Have you at hello? Was your very first
pumpkin spice latte? Just?

Speaker 2 (01:39):
You know, just I don't remember my first one. I
just know that the clearly the feeling lasted forever and
it will always for me.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Have you had one yet? Controversial? I'm not a pumpkin
spice latte? Girl? What are you serious? Yeah? I know
I've had one because I know I don't love yesca.
I feel like you haven't. I truly feel like I'm
disappointing you. You are, you definitely are.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Why, Like, what's wrong with you?

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Now?

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Why can't I think you gotta go and have another one?
I think whatever was going on that day that you had.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
One that you just like it is not it's not right? Yeah, okay, okay, okay,
And there's no variations, right, it's just a straight pumpkin
spice latte.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Well, listen, some people get the extra caramel pump or whatever.
I think I could just go o G latte straight
up with the pumpkin.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah, Okay? Are they everywhere or just at Starbucks. That's
a good question because they just opened a La La
Land right down the street from me. Like, am I
walking into La La Land for a pumpkin spice Lotte?
I bet they have it? Okay, I'm gonna ask, I
bet they have it. I'm gonna okay, report back because
we need did you also love the smell? Like do
you get the Hopkins spice candles?

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Okay, wait, I have a story about this.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
So yes, I saw chumpkin spice candles and I used
to only bring them out starting September because it used
to be it used to be like a like A's
bring them out, parade them out and put them out.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Then when I started therapy way back, when my therapist
said to me.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Who was your first piece of business? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, She said to me, what is a smell that
calms you down? And I instantly went to like, oh,
I can't like lavender. None of these smells like doing
anything for me. And then I went, wait, a fucking
second pumpkin spice.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
I love it. It makes me so happy.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
And so now because I need calming down, there's twenty
thousand focused by scandals through my house all year round.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
All you're a round because it brings me joy. Gosh,
I wonder if you could get like a travel one
like what happens if you're out in the wild and
you need a little calming down any little pipe. Well,
you know what you can.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
There's a CVS somewhere.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Okay, can go and have a little sniff. Yeah, be
on your way. Forget the zol off. Where's the pumpkin spice?

Speaker 2 (03:59):
I'm serious, I'm not kidding. That smell brings me so
much joy? Is there not a Is there a smell like? Okay,
if you're a therapist, is that to you? Is there
a smell that would bring you like instant like kind
of joy like that?

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah? I'm a I'm a coconut vanilla combo girl. Oh
really yeah, summer summer coconuty vanilla. Oh that's so funny. Yeah, Okay.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Do you have a single pumpkin like anything like apple
pie sort of candle situation in our house? No?

Speaker 1 (04:28):
I know, I'm really I was worried about this episode.
I know you should be, but I had biradically accepted it.
So now I'm not gonna suffer.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Okay, fine, So it is fall pumpkin madness.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
And by the way, I do like, I mean, I
know that it's not the same thing at all. But
you know, before drinks got so like fancy and tricky,
a good old fashioned hot chocolate really flips my pages,
even like a mocha.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
I gotta tell you, I don't care about a hot chocolate, Okay,
I don't. It's fine, maybe with a little Bailey's. It's
just there's nothing jazzy about it to me. It's just
kind of like a watery chocolate like something.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Okay, Oh, you always have to make hot chocolate with milk.
People who make hot chocolate with water are I don't
even know that. I don't know whoever was allowed to
do it? Yeah, not right, Yeah, no, it's not right.
Do you feel like there's there's ever too much pumpkin
because there's a lot of it?

Speaker 2 (05:29):
No? Okay, oh wait, yes no, because what what what
we One of the things we need to talk about
today is pumpkin spice has made it to diodrants this year.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
You can have an armpit that sounds like a pumpkin spice.
That's a it's a step too far. As bad as
you buy it from mat they take a big whiff.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
No, that that to me is a step too far.
I don't need to be smelling like a latte. Okay,
I do think that that's kind of gross.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Well, I think so too. A pumpkin spice arn't pit Yeah, yeah, no,
I went to a visual about it too. Okay. We

(06:22):
have some questions about it today. Okay, yes, okay, so.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
We already did the first one, which is, did you
already order your pumpkin spice lotting?

Speaker 1 (06:30):
You did? I didn't, we did.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Do you feel pressured to buy into the fall flavor esthetic?

Speaker 1 (06:38):
I don't feel pressured. I feel inspired sometimes. Yeah, I
lean all the way in. Are you kidding? Yeah? I'm
so excited when I see that. See, this is what
I love about the US.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
When that stuff is on the shelves in like April,
mm hmm, I'm like.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yes, I'm ready, I'm ready, And I'm like, who didn't
buy it in September? It's still sitting here?

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah, I and I would have cleaned those shelves early summer,
early summer. Okay, is pumpkin just boring now because there's
too much of it? No?

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Right, No, Jessica, that's not where you're gonna say, I'm
neither here nor there on the pumpkin topic. I know
it's disappointing. Does he get over?

Speaker 2 (07:21):
He not give you like a little bit of joy
to like even see a pumpkin.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Sure they're cute. I like the little the like I
like the teeny ones really a lot I already have. Okay,
so I have a confession.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Two weekends ago, I went to this farm in Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
That's why I la and I knew.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
I specifically went there because I knew that they would
have a crap toon of pumpkins already. And I filled
my car with so many pumpkins that the guy walking
by me was this older guy, and he said to.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Me, are you do you work in events? Do you
have a pumpkin problem? No, he said no. He said
do you work in events? I said no, I don't
work in events.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
I said why, And he goes, well, you have so
many pumpkins, Like, what is it for?

Speaker 1 (08:07):
He thought it was throwing some carnival. Yeah. I was like, okay,
don't know, this is just for my front door.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
I like, I like to not be able to see
the door and it just be like you have to
climb through the pumpkin.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Wait, so I asked you earlier if you'd started doing
stuff for Halloween and you were like, oh, I just
have a pumpkin guy at the front door. You actually
have it fully decorated front door with enough pumpkins that
someone went out of their way to stop you and
ask if you were in events for pumpkin decorating. Yeah. Yeah,
it's not just that, but I mean they're all over

(08:40):
the place.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
If there's a little corner of my house that doesn't
have something that's an opportunity for.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
A pumpkin, pumpkins and dog water bowls, that's what you're
gonna find. You know what, a pumpkin in the water bowl.
There you go, floating pumpkin, floating pumpkin. Okay, I have
a question, what would you rather have in your car
wet dog smell or pumpkin air freshener for three straight months?
Three months? That's a silly question. I would what dog

(09:05):
smell is terrible?

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, I feel like, yeah, I would if it was
like a mild wet dog smell, fine versus like a
strong pumpkin smell. But of course I'm gonna do like
a pumpkin smell. But if it was like two intent
there's a there is a such thing to me as
a two intense smell.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Is there a place where a pumpkin smell or taste
just doesn't belong? Like I can tell you that I
can quickly zoom by a pumpkin spiced Oreo packet. I
already got him. You have you eat Oreos with pumpkins spice?

Speaker 2 (09:41):
I have them and I have the Yeah, they have
an orange center.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
They are in the in the kitchen. She going back
to my first question. She's done nothing to prepare for Halloween. Obviously, No,
absolutely nothing. I've already got him. I've already tried them.
I love them. And then are you kidding? It was orange?
It spoke to me in the middle of rouse. So
I said, yes, please, I'll take those please, And will

(10:12):
you rebuy this? Is stressed me? Oh yeah, yeah, smell
smell that pumpkin candle o you stress? Will you rebuy
that package? Will you rebuy that flavor? Of course? Okay, great,
I don't know. These are ridiculous questions.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Okay, pecan, apple, maple, caramel, these are very fall things.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
I like all three of those things. Pecan, maple, end
you had to buy a pie for Thanksgiving? Which is
the pie that you like? Locan pie? Me too, I
do love the I love it with whipped cream and
like warm.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yes, I could do, honestly, the pecan with a pumpkin.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Oh, see me too, Okay, we agree. My Grandma Bev
used to make the best one. And the crust is
so good, and then I like a good amount out
of the filling, Like it can't just be all on top,
you know, like with no if I need some real filling,
like a buttery, sugary filling.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yeah, a gre delicious Okay, the weirdest pumpkin flavored thing
you've actually tried. I'm gonna have to give this one
to you because you got pumpkin. I don't think I've
ever tried anything weird. I just am not a fan
of Like I'm not a fan of pumpkin soup.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Because it actually tastes like a pumpkin and everything else
tastes like its sugary.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah, exactly exactly exactly. Yeah, no I am.
I do love the fall, and I love the leaves,
and I love the foliage and you know, in partnership
with the pumpkin on the front, stoop. I also have
gotten into the non yell I mean not that not.
I'm not an exclusively orange pumpkin buyer. I'll buy a

(11:56):
white pumpkin. I'll buy a green pumpkin. Oh yeah, So.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
When I did my uh my farm run, I bought
every every size and shape and collar you can imagine.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Yeah, and there and and so. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
In fact, I'll post the pictures because I know people
have been waiting around. I'm sure to know which ones
are bought, so you guys calm down, I'll post them.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
No, I love it.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
And I called the little white pumpkins or ghost pumpkins.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
And then the green ones I love them.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
I called that like the like the MINTI green almost
color ones. I call them Cinderella pumpkins. I think that's
what they're called. Maybe so cute.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
They definitely not exist when I was younger.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
No, what is one nostalgic fall treat that you miss
from your childhood?

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Hmmm, my girl again, Grandma Boves. She used to send
caramel apples. That's so cute. Yeah, from this famous place
in Saint Louis called Mervs Mervs. I don't know, yeah,
I think they do, but I don't know. That they
they they hit in the same way her. They were
just delicious and she would send them, you know, probably

(13:02):
right around now and uh yeah, and there were some
within nuts and there were some plaine yum but always
gooey and always made Maje your hands sticky.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Oh. I love That's a really cute tradition.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
I love that. Yeah, what about you. Well, this isn't a.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Fall tweat, but more of a just a nostalgic thing
about fall I had back in the UK. This is
around the time that chestnuts would fall from the trees
and you would collect them, and so I.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Would always have big.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Pockets full of chestnuts and you bring them home and
you could, I mean you could actually like sometimes we
would like make little games out. This sounds like a
Victorian child by the way, I'm aware.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
I could stick a thing through and like you were
wearing your pinafore.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah, yeah, and you could like put a little string
through it and string it up. I don't see those
at all in California, but I have really cute memories
of just of that.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Well, I love that and decorating.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Yeah, we have to do this version of a shortened sweep,
by the way, for Christmas. Oh my gosh, because my
pumpkin's sort of out at Christmas and I got other
I got out.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Of the strong opinions about Christmas stuff. Oh yeah, and
I know you do too, you I call it. Yeah,
I love it, love it, love it, love it, love it.
I'm never happier than when I've full decked out decorating,
oh yeah, oh yes, and finding the spot for the
Christmas okay, god, oh my god, we can get into it.

(14:30):
Let's not. Let's save it. Let's save it. Okay, all right,
Well I'm gonna I'm gonna do you a solid, and
I'm gonna go get myself a pumpkins. Damn serious.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Can you report back that you're like, I don't know
what happened that day that you tried it.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
It's annoying me something terrible. Obviously, obviously five taste buds
were broken that day, so you got to fix them.
That makes sense. And then yeah, exactly, all right, I
love it. Let's call it. The end of the episode.
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