September 19, 2024 • 34 mins
Grab your bestie because Jess & Camilla are crossing over and learning some juicy secrets with “Scrubbing In” BFFs Tanya Rad & Becca Tilley!
Jess shares how Ryan Seacrest and Tanya restored her faith in humanity while Becca shares what one thing Taylor Swift knew about her before her parents! Plus, Camilla gives Tanya a great piece of advice ahead of her wedding.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Call It what It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Ludington,
an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Hello, Hello, Hello, call It Crew. Hello, jess are sitting
here on top of the world, on top of the
world in Chicago.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
We are here for a con which is a convention
right where we get to meet fans. And we found
out that there was another podcast happening in Chicago at
the same time as us, and that was Scrubbing In.
And I know you guys have heard of this podcast
because they love Gray's Anatomy. I've been on the podcast,
(00:51):
and to be honest, right now, I'm paying my pants
a little bit because they are so professional an experts
and they're sitting right in front of him staring at them,
and we are like the feetus babies.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I don't really know what we're doing. I know I know.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Babies.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
So Tanya and back, can you say hello to the.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
We are so honored to be here, truly, like the
honor is ours?
Speaker 6 (01:20):
No, I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
I think it's it's a co honor.
Speaker 6 (01:23):
I think it's a co honor. But I do think
since our podcast titled name is in reference to this.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Is it's like royalty, like this is actually actual royalty,
and it's actually really nice. We didn't bring we have
pillows that are like the size of like a bean
with your faces on them.
Speaker 7 (01:45):
We didn't bring them here, so you don't.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
You don't have the pleasure of seeing yours.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
They're a situation.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Hala likes the crown.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
So I'm.
Speaker 7 (01:57):
Yeah, wait, can we cheers, because I'm honest, cheer a bottle?
Speaker 6 (02:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Okay, Okay, I'm excited because usually I'm on your podcast
and you asked me questions and we get to ask
you guys questions today.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
That's right, it's true, right, Okay, but I sort of
actually forgot the component, which is like besties and besties.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Yeah, yes, maybe that's where we start. O friendship components.
Speaker 6 (02:28):
Are saying, like the hair, the similarity, the hair.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Color, the hair color, it's like looking at our youngest.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
So I feel like, yeah, yeah, forty, Okay, you're forty.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
She said, like, no, I love how people are shocked.
I'm like, oh my god, thanks. Oh let's be honest.
If they weren't shocked, you'd be pissed.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
I really obviously not lie about it, obviously.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Okay, so you guys are best friends? Where did you
first meet.
Speaker 6 (03:05):
We met at an iHeart festival in Vegas. Yes, she
was not super warm to me.
Speaker 7 (03:10):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Okay, first of all, no, she's so dramatic and she
knows our story a little bit too.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Because we did not get along okay, no, okay, okay,
okay so.
Speaker 7 (03:21):
Much, and you didn't like her.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
She didn't really know it.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I know she mean it very obviously, guys.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
The problem is she always likes to say this, but
like I, when I love people like I get really
excited to see them. And she was with two people
that I already had known. I didn't know her, so
I was really excited to see the people that she
was with, and I was like, nice to you.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
I thought opid'ctly I would say she was tepid.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
But then, as fate would have it, we ended up
she ended up moving into the apartment literally right next
door to mine, so we shared a wall, and that's
when everything like flipped for us, because we just became
like inseparable at that point, Like we literally shared a
wall for a little.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Intimate I feel like I sure was.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
Yeah, some of us have some spatial boundaries that others
still and I would be like waking up. You know,
she is on a morning radio show, so she gets
up early, comes home while I'm still waking up, basically yeah,
and she would just turn the knob like ready to
come in, and she like knock until I answered it,
Why is your door locked? And like, well I was sleeping,
(04:28):
So that's why she acts like this.
Speaker 7 (04:31):
Yeah, she loves it. No, I know, I actually.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
Think y'all are similar. Two of you.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
No boundaries in these friendships need Yeah, she would like.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Get me ready for like dates and stuff, like she
would like do my hair and like do I make
up for me?
Speaker 7 (04:49):
And like it was like a really sweet time.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Do you imagine if we had that time in our
lives together you would not let me do I actually
would because you do that really pretty thing with your eyes,
and I I don't love ever everybody to do that.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
I can do it.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Look on if you guys like when you're when you
guys are like old, do.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
You want houses side by side?
Speaker 6 (05:12):
Then like no, there's an instant No, No, I don't.
I don't think we need that. No, like a close
drive away is good.
Speaker 7 (05:20):
We're too far away from each other right now.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
I know I moved to you and you moved away.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
I know, yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Moved in with my fiance, but uh, we're a little
bit too far. We're about ten minutes ten to eleven
minute drive.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I prefer to be far.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
It's it's good for me personally, Like it's a perfect distance.
So I'm not yeah, I'm not trying to like She's
like talking about moving to the valley and I'm like, oh, yeah,
that's how where how close to me close?
Speaker 7 (05:51):
She acts like this, but she she loves it.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
She loves it.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Yeah, I get that. Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
When we walked in, we were blinded by.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
The ring on Tanya's finger almost immediately.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, I know, she's like a magpie.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
She's like a mag I'm like, shiny, shiny, sparkling.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
Engaged.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
You were last time I saw you were not engaged?
Speaker 6 (06:14):
Correct? Wait, so when did you get engaged?
Speaker 5 (06:15):
So I've actually been engaged for a year, but we
need a story, the engagement story.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
Yes, we love it.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Well, we were dating for three years before we got engaged.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Woaw.
Speaker 7 (06:29):
I know it's a long time for like, yeah, later
in your life.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
But my faderhead, Yeah, well no.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
I mean, like a lot all my friends, a lot
of my friends got married in their twenties, like early
twenty of your life. Really love when you're talking, I
feel like a lot of people get married early on
in their twenties, yes, and I'm like in my later thirties,
so I mean right later on in life.
Speaker 7 (06:48):
But I was like ready for it, Like after the
first year.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
I was like, I'm ready for it, and he was
divorced with kids, and so he was kind of like
on the slower path. Yeah, So we met in the middle,
and it was really beautiful. He did it on like
a Sunday. I was like not expecting at all. He
had all of our closest friends and our family, and
like Becca was there and she was filming, so I
was obviously surprised for me. So I didn't know that
they were all there, and Becca was basically like filming
(07:13):
everybody and kind of like their excitement of it like
before I came out, and so like getting to see
those videos is so special because I didn't know what
was going on, and getting to like see all their
conversations and they were all like helping him decide like
where to set it up, and she was in charge
of the speaker for the music, and like he just
gave everybody a job, and it was just like really
really sweet.
Speaker 7 (07:33):
Oh yeah, and he.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Has he has how many kids?
Speaker 7 (07:36):
Two kids? Ten and twelve? Oh boys?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Oh okay great, yeah, oh that's exciting.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
And did you find it stressful, like keeping that secret?
Because I hate secrets.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
I love secrets. You do.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
You're a good I'm so bad.
Speaker 7 (07:51):
Yeah, she's like a vaulted Did you ever have to
go yeah dinner.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
I think a few days before, like the week before,
and she was talking about plans or something, and I
was so casual. It was just like just oh.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
My god, break a sweat break. Did you really have
no idea? Did anyone do the whole? Like, why don't
you go get.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Your nails done today?
Speaker 6 (08:09):
No?
Speaker 7 (08:10):
Because I do always.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah, I've been preparing for like a.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
Year, like I was.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
For a year before we got engaged, So I was like.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
Ready for it.
Speaker 7 (08:22):
Yeah, so there was no need to like prepare me.
I was like read it. Yeah yeah, yeah right.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
But I was surprised the day of because it was
like after a Jonas brother's concert.
Speaker 7 (08:31):
It was a Sunday. I was hungover, like it was
so weird but perfect.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
Yeah, Oh my gosh, I couldn't even he packed me
makeup because basically what it is he handed me. We
did like a couple's massage, but they said like the
room was broken or whatever, so they put me in
a room by myself. After my massage, they handed me
a note that was written by him saying like the time,
like it's been a long time coming, your dress and
(08:55):
your makeup is in your locker. I'm waiting for you
on the terrace. So like then I knew. So I
just started like bawling and what. Yeah, So I knew
at that point, like we were getting engaged. And I
looked at my massage therapist and I was like I'm
getting engaged, and I like hugged her and like I
just started bawling. And then I had all my makeup,
but I couldn't even put it on because I was
just like crying so hard.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
This he is moving. But also it's like he asked, like.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
I'm tripping on.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
He kind of asked you without even being there because
he said what it was gonna be.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
Yeah, it literally was like just one sentences like it's
been a long time coming. Uh, your dress and the
make and your makeup or in your lockers, I'm waiting
for you.
Speaker 7 (09:36):
In the terrace and I was like.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
Oh, this is wow.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
I would say yes if I opened a random locker
and that was a note, I'm like sorry, man, Yeah yeah,
race is here and I'm all the genrors.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah mine, I know that's deep.
Speaker 7 (09:55):
Yeah, it was cute. It was really cute.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
And so many is officiating.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
We heard rumors.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Yes, So I work. I work on the morning show
on Earth Ryan Seacrest, and he he loves like he
loves my fiance. They like really get along really well.
And I feel like it's really symbolic because I lived
out so much of like my single life on the
air and on the morning show, and so the fact
that he's going to like officiate for us is like
very sentimental and kind of like full circle.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
I don't know that I've ever said this on the
podcast before, but I was an I listened to the
Morning show every morning on my way to grace.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
You all did.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Chunk of I mean, I what undid me was because
I was pregnant so many times on the show and
there it's an emotional roller coaster.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
You go through a lot of different you.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Know, yeah, imagine And it was Ryan's roses that I
was like I can't listen to one.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
More horrible person in the world. I just can't do it.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah, it just makes me just lose my.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
Faith in humanity.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
It was Ryan's roses that put me over the edge,
and but I listened to it all the time, which
is so crazy to me now because I think, now
my habits are I get in and I've got my
Spotify play.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Did I just go straight to that?
Speaker 7 (11:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (11:11):
Now, I really did.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
I listened to all the banter.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
Yeah. Thing.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
So like when I started with him, I had like
I had just broken up with this guy that I
thought I was going to marry, and so it was
like this whole whirlwind of like my life got turned
upside down. I started dating again, like it was. My
whole single life was literally documented on the Morning show.
And so it's like it's going to be like a
full circle moment to have him like a fishing kind
of like end that chapter for me.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
You know, what do you think Ryan's going to get
you as your wedding present?
Speaker 7 (11:40):
You know, his presence is our present?
Speaker 6 (11:44):
No?
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Come on, I need well no, but yeah, but okay,
all right, I got the answer.
Speaker 7 (11:49):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I want to imagine that Ryan's going to get you
like a like a.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
House, like a like a white rose voice.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
Next to you.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
Yeah, it would be the dream, honestly. Yeah, yeah, no
I don't.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
It's so funny because we're actually talking about that. I
was like, I don't want I don't want anybody coming
to the wedding to like give us a gift, like
I'm going to toast her from like my best friends
that are coming to my wedding.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Special design.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Yeah, I felt that way. I put like, no, you know,
I didn't have a registry. I was like, it's.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Fine, don't worry about it. You guys coming. Okay, I
seriously regret that.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Oh really, yes, you regret not having a registry.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Okay loves Okay, No, wait, back up.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Having a registry, because what would a registry do tell
people what to get you?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Yeah, hey, people got you weird stuff. No, you guys,
let me give you some context. Jessica has a registry
for her birthday, for.
Speaker 6 (12:54):
Her birthday, not every amazing.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Superior and well, we know how you feel about it.
But let the women speak, because I just heard the
one a ramp up to this is a it's amazining.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
She thinks it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Okay, let's go back to your story.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
How a registry is.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I want to people really quick care about you to
Jessica's birthday.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
There's a link to a registry.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
For that's my dream. What I hate having to think
about what someone's gonna like for a gift.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
And imagine if they were all different price points.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Perfect, I mean the fact that switch.
Speaker 7 (13:35):
Yeah, actually, like.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
I would actually, I don't know what I would do
if somebody send me a link to their registry for
their birthday, I'd be like, no, I'm giving your pull off.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
I know.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
I did not have a registry for my wedding. I
regretted it because all of my kitchen stuff is crap.
It's stuff that I had from like my twenties, and
I could have done like a nice toaster or like
cooking Star. I still don't have stuff.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Now I change.
Speaker 7 (14:06):
I might change my mind on the birthday.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
Coming up in December, I might start doing this because
like that, just I felt excited hearing about that. My God,
And now even if you didn't say like specifics, if
it was like here's stores that I love, yeah, anything
that you want to get me from that, yes, I
love that. Okay, Becca, Yeah, do we hear wedding balls
(14:39):
for you? Oh?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
How are you feeling?
Speaker 6 (14:43):
I feel great about my relationship. But we've been together
for six years, I know, but we just officially moved
in together last month, actually a couple months ago, but
she left and worked for three months in Canada. So yeah,
So she's asked me like three times every day if
I'm going to get married.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
She's going to keep it a secret. She's like, I'm
not going to tell anybody. So now I feel like
I have to ask her every day.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
But when it happens, I'm just saying, I will propel anybody.
I think it would eventually be both of us proposed,
but I don't know. I would imagine I would.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
I would have time that though, you just do you
have the discussion beforehand of like, hey, this is going
to be the day that we proposed to each other.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
No, no, no, so romantic.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
But she's for that you both proposed.
Speaker 7 (15:28):
I think one doesn't like a couple of months.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
Later on so that we both get to where, you know,
the room okay, but no, we are really just adjusting
the living together. But I know, like I want to
be with her, prepper, I'm not like a wedding, Like
I'm not like, oh, I dreamed of my wedding my
whole life. You were on the Bachelor, listen, I know,
and I'm dating a woman.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Now there's room, there's room.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
Grew up in the South, and I think there was
the expectation of, like you get married young kids, and
I was always like what I just assumed I was
going to do? So The Bachelor felt very much unnatural
in the stance of how it was done. But I
was like, Okay, nothing, the apps aren't working. Let's see
if this works two times and yeah, did it? And
then I met her. I think two years after that.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Would you ever go back and watch old episodes?
Speaker 6 (16:18):
Oh? No, like watching I was. I want to. We'll
talk about this later. But watching yourself on a screen
like that is the most uncomfortable thing to me.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Well, that's so much worse.
Speaker 6 (16:28):
We played character.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
I mean we yeah, we we had other people's words
so we could.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
Watch was like a little like, well it wasn't me, yeah, right,
but right.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I actually find it strangely, and I've given what we're
doing right now. I find it hard to listen to myself. Yes,
I really had to hear yourself a voicemailing you like
who not me?
Speaker 7 (16:48):
How I found Yeah?
Speaker 6 (16:50):
No, so yeah that's what I did.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Wait, so you because because I had to be reminded
that you were on the Bachelor. So I have a question,
given that you have real life experience being on a
show like that, do you have do you feel like
you feel differently or or do you what is your
feeling and or impression of shows that catch fire like
Love Island?
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Like do you do you watch it?
Speaker 6 (17:15):
Did you watch it? I'm not into Love Island?
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Are there any.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Reality shows that you're into?
Speaker 6 (17:19):
So I so my girlfriend loves The Bachelor like that
I've never watched before I was on it. And then
when I met her, she tried to act like she
didn't watch my seasons. I found out like a few
months into our relationship she was like a diehard fan.
She was like, oh yeah, she's like I am. I
think I started watching around Rachel Lindsay's season, which was
(17:40):
like a few after mine, and I was like, oh okay.
And then I found like an old you know, like
when you start dating somebody stalk their whole Instagram. I
like went like backfar and she did a literal Instagram
video where she's almost like it was almost like my
conversation with one of the Bachelor's verbatim no, because that
was a virgin. I was like, oh, I don't know
what I want to do, and and it was basically
(18:01):
like my conversation that she was acting out. And I
was like, this was the year that I was on
the Bachelor, So you literally were watching.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
I realized that I have to catch up here. But
you went on the Bachelor as a virgin.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
Oh yeah, yeah, okay, so I grew up the Christian.
Speaker 7 (18:15):
That was my story for story.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
So I didn't want it to be because I knew
as soon as they found out about that that was
gonna be my storyline. Yeah. There was another girl in
there who was a virgin. She was crying because she
had just told him and she was like, I don't
know how he receiving right? Actually, I ah yeah, and
I go, oh, I'm a virgin too, and like in
my mind I said it, and I was like I
have a microphone and like seven cameras on the right,
and I'm like damn. I was like I was trying
to not do that. And immediately a producer was like, Becca,
(18:40):
come here, interview. Yeah, so that became like my storyline, gotcha, Yeah, when.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
You're on the show, do you have to wear a
mic from the moment you wake up?
Speaker 6 (18:51):
I was They kind of like would get so annoyed
with me because I would be. I would wait till
they had to come and find me to be like, Becky,
you have to put a microphone on because it was
like on your back all day.
Speaker 7 (19:01):
It was so uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
They are uncomfortable.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Old were you when you on the first time twenty six?
Speaker 6 (19:06):
But I was. I grew up very conservative, very Christian,
so and in hindsight, I honestly think it may have
been because I was more into women. But in my
mind it was easier.
Speaker 7 (19:15):
To be like, yeah, right, it's religious.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
You know. But yeah. I would get in the pool
because you could take your mic off when you were swimming,
but it was they'd.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
Be like, where's backup?
Speaker 6 (19:29):
I would try Yeah, So basically though, and then I
hated the fact that I had it when I was
going to back I just like I felt it's so invasive,
super invasive. I feel like reality I know, but she
loves speaking of like reality shows. She's obsessed with all
violands and so I watched.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
You Obsessed Cannot Get Enough, Like when I tell you like,
but not the USA only UK.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Yeah, I've heard that that one.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
So UK. They're like next level, next level there there.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
It's weird because they're all interacting, they're doing the same people,
but they do so respectfully. Yeah yeah yeah, and they're
still drama, but they deal with it in such like
a respectful, mature manner.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
That's what I've heard.
Speaker 7 (20:11):
Yes, So it's like so interesting to watch.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
When I saw one episode of the American version and
I was like, this last season I swore, And because
I heard my my thirteen year old talking with her
friends because we're a little bit like I'm very wary
of the social media and kids and all that stuff,
so I kind of toe that line. And they don't
have social media, so they you know, she just got
(20:35):
Snapchat and she gets like twenty minutes a day, thirteen.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
She's thirteen.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
She just got a phone, and so I think she's
figured out different little workarounds.
Speaker 7 (20:48):
Yeah, I love.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
You, Eve, And so she was talking to some friends
about it, and it's like whether she would be at
someone else's house and maybe they won't have it all
or I think you can find everything on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
YouTube.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
So anyways, it was put into my consciousness and then
I thought, well, I should see like some piece of
this before I'm saying how horrible it is or or
whatever you know. And so I watched one episode like
I wanted to like burn my eyeballs out.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
This cannot be watched by my thirteen year old child.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
So till your thirteen year old to watch the UK version,
Thank you. It's much more sophisticated.
Speaker 7 (21:35):
Yeah mannered, Yeah, manner mannered.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
I speaking of reality, I've just gotten her started on
the Mormon Uh yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
The Secret Lives. So I just started it. I'm only
one episode in, so.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
Don't yeah I can.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I'm not going to spoil it.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
People love it, people are going crazy over it. Yeah yeah.
But everyone was obsessed with Love Island USA.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Island USA was top tier television. When I tell you
you liked it, Oh, so I swore off USA. I
was like, I will never watch Love Island USA ever,
Like never, And then UK this last season, I was
watching it and it was really bad, and I was like,
I need my fix in the summer. So I heard
everybody was like in the USA, So I went over
(22:18):
to the USA and it was phenomenal. So this last season,
hats off. They deserved some awards for this last season
because it was any dating reality show. I'm like, there, yeah, wow, yeah,
wow yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:33):
Love is Blind.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Love is Blind UK, Mexico, USA.
Speaker 6 (22:37):
Yes, you can get a nuddy anywhere.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Can we talk about Taylor Swift?
Speaker 6 (22:58):
Oh? Sure?
Speaker 7 (22:59):
So Beck as best friend?
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (23:01):
So so we have we you know, before we do podcasts,
we get notes on things. And I was like, yay
yy I know these girls. And I was like, wait
a tick. Taylor Swift knew about you and Haley before
anybody else did.
Speaker 6 (23:18):
Not before anybody else but before my parents? How how
this is actually such a crazy story. So we love it.
My girlfriend Haley, she's a singer and she was on
tour with She was opening for a Panic at the
disco at the time, and she was on the same
tour schedule kind of as Taylor, and so Taylor reached
out and asked if she wanted to perform with her
(23:40):
during her reputation tour, and so Haley, Haley was like
really respected Taylor, but wasn't like, didn't know like a
tonuber of music or anything, you know, just very like
respected her as an artist, but she knew I was
like obsessed with Taylor. And she's like, oh, they just
called and we're going to be in Boston at the
same time. They want me to come out and perform
Curious with her during the concert, and I was like,
(24:01):
I'm flying out. Tell me to day. When is this happening. So,
in for context, we met in April, basically started dating
as soon as we met. She went on tour, and
then this was in July. So however, many months okay three,
all my friends knew about us. My sisters lived with
me at the time, my two younger sisters, and so
I fly out there and she goes on stage performs.
(24:23):
I'm in like the friends and family section with Mama
Swift like I'm just like, this is the coolest thing ever.
And I'm videoing my girlfriend on stage with Taylor Swift.
I'm like, this is so epic, you know. So we
go back to Haley's green room, Haley and her mom
go to Taylor's dressing room with Taylor and her mom
and they're chatting. I'm in Haley's green room, I'm looking
(24:44):
at videos. I'm like, this is incredible, and my mom
texted me and she was like she had known about
like Hailey's name, but she was like, do you like
Haley more than a friend.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
At the same time on that night yeaheah. So I'm
like looking for my foot off that night.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
I don't no, I guess because she knew. I think
I told her like I'm going to Boston Haley's performing whatever. Yeah,
So my mom texts me that I'm like staring at
my phone, and Haley's security guard comes over and he's like, hey,
Taylor wants to say hi, So I'm going to take
you to her dressing room. So like i go in
with the most heavy feeling because I'm like, I'm about
(25:21):
to meet my favorite celebrity ever and I have to
come out to my mom tonight. Like it was just
so this like crazy balance. So we talked about I
think we talked like Bachelor in Paradise or something. It
was like, she's so you've met her.
Speaker 7 (25:38):
She's so she's the best normal.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
She's so like intentional, like when she's having a conversation,
it's very like you're the person she's talking to. She
doesn't care what's going on. And then yeah, I had
to go on Haley's bus and have a very hard
conversation with my mom.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
Crazy.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
That's an insane story, and I'm very jealous.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
I feel like there's so many different layers to that.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
There's there had to have been.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
I'm I'm when we talking about I'm a little more
woo woo.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I'm a little more like the destiny of it, Like
things happened right when they're meant to happen, all that
stuff for that to happen, because to have something that's
so so hard sitting side by side something that was
so so fantastic, the true I mean, that's incredible, right
that you got to feel those two things and maybe
(26:33):
even use some of the energy from I'm with my
most favorite artists in the world, and I think that
there's like an emotional contagion that happens between people. So
like that bolstering and that confidence and that like joy
got to come and be in your story of doing
something you thought it was gonna be really hard.
Speaker 7 (26:50):
Yeah that's cool.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Yeah, it was a lot crazy, crazy tense.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
I love that.
Speaker 6 (26:58):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I have a question about just podcasting, okay, because we
are the podcast.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Babies compared to you guys.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
You guys are like the varsity, the seniors. What are
some tips for us to be better at tips and
tricks for us.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
To be better at our jobs?
Speaker 7 (27:21):
You're just such a nerd.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
What are some things that you guys learned along the way.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
I bet you're like, I wish I knew it from
day one when I started this podcast.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
I wish I knew this this.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
I feel like we've been doing it for seven years
and there's gonna be people in your ear that tell
you to do it this way, or do this way,
or talk to this person or how you know.
Speaker 7 (27:45):
I always feel like.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Our gut is always right on things like if we're
having fun and we're liking the people that we're having
on the podcast is great. If we're not having fun
and it's not someone that we want to talk to,
it's not enjoyable. So I think, like, just listen to
your gut and your intuition. I think that's like my
(28:07):
biggest thing.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
And also I feel like the like my most vulnerable
episodes where I left the like recording being like, oh god,
do I need them to take that hour or edit,
you know, but have decided to leave it in have
been the most like impactful moments of the podcast, like
our vulnerable moments where we cry. You know. It's just
I think that's what people listen to podcasts for, especially
(28:28):
when it's a relationship in terms of friendship and they
want to know you. There's this element of vulnerability with
podcasts that people gravitate towards because they essentially are listening.
And obviously y'all are y'all are celebrities and people have
y'all in this like y'all are their favorite from their
favorite TV show ever, so there's a difference in that,
but they're listening because they love you, guys, and they
(28:50):
want to hear about your lives and it doesn't have
to be so polished. My girlfriend has a really hard
time with social media, for instance, because she's a traditional
actress and artist. So the social media of it, all
of it all is intimidating to her because it's very
casual in the sense that it's, yeah, it's not filtered,
it's not edited, whereas traditional creative people are used to
(29:11):
that needing like it to be perfect and look a
certain way. And so I think that's the most The
thing that I've noticed is when we're the most authentic
and raw and just like vulnerable with our feelings and
how what we're doing.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
If we mess something up and we're like, should do
it over, and then we're like, no, keep it in.
We'll just keep it all in, just let it, let
it go.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
But I listened to y'all's podcast, and I feel like
y'all do such a y'all's banter. So it's when you
have natural chemistry with someone's huge, it makes the biggest No,
that's giving.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Her a little shoulder on camera shoulder.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
No, I think we're finding that too, something that Jessica.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Gave her a wink.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
No.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
I think something that jess and I I've talked about
before we started the pod was that we are so
used as actors, used to being polished and making sure
we don't say the wrong thing quote unquote, and you know,
giving an answer, buttoning it, moving on. And this was
initially kind of intimidating and exciting all at the same time,
(30:17):
because we were like, Okay, we're going to have to
get vulnerable and we're not.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
We that's not really are mo O normally.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Well, I think that for when you're an actor, you
are usually representing a project.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
When you're reviewed or you're in front of camera or
being heard.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Yes, and in pot when you're on a podcast, you're
representing yourself and so that transition from I'm representing someone
else and how they would like for this project to
be represented, right, and I'm representing myself and I need
to trust for me.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Like the biggest thing has been.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
That that equal parts trust and connection, which is you know,
because we're all looking for that. Even when you're just
listening and you're listening in on you know, I mean
listening to both of you talk, it's like there's this
incredible dynamic knowing and belonging and trust and all that stuff,
and you hear it when you guys are when you're
(31:11):
just talking. And I think that that you know, people
want to tune into. And I think that in the
beginning for us, it was it's been so new that
you sort of like you're still doing the razzle dazzle
on some level, like what is the thing like what's
going to be entertaining or right?
Speaker 6 (31:28):
Right?
Speaker 1 (31:28):
And I think that it's wild to think that in
this in this medium, you kind of like the less
entertaining that you try to be the better.
Speaker 7 (31:37):
I think something is I think like you're you. That's
the thing.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
Like the people that listen to your podcast are like
listening for you, and they will come with you and
they will do life with you, and they will that
they're there for you. And so it's like I think
that's been like it's such a beautiful relationship because it's
like you meet these people, like when we did some
of our live shows, it's like you meet these people
and they've been invested and they like know so much
(32:01):
of you and your life and your story, and they
relate to things and at the end of the day,
like human connection, we all no matter what celebrity non celebrity,
we all deal with the same stuff. So it's like
you're you find people that are kind of in similar
life phases, Like I get women that DM me about dating, divorced,
dads with kids and how do you navigate that? And
you know, like all these different things that they connect
(32:23):
with you on And I think that's the thing is
it's like that's what resonates, that's what sticks. Those are
the people that are going to stick with you. So
if you just go with your gut and like always
stay true to that, that's what's gonna hold strong you know.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
I was also gonna say one of my favorite episode,
whatever listener's favorite episode is the story about we were
in a nail salon. I was just gonna go into
the Voulderville thank you so much, and Tanya got up
from the nail salon and parted, and it like kept
going and it's like.
Speaker 7 (32:49):
We were hard story for twenty minutes.
Speaker 6 (32:55):
Every time I stepped, it was like it just kept
farting walking and it kept I was like.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
I was in this phase of life where I was
too sugar free gum, like it was like my job and.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
I didn't know the impact that it was going to.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Happen GI and I got that impact.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
I felt the impact of listeners and it was like
one of our most listened to podcasts.
Speaker 7 (33:17):
And it was like literally about me aarready get nails.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
I'm just learning about vulnerability, a real true life. And
I wanted to ask a question that has nothing to
do with that. I want to talk about you if
you have pistol woman, since your Gray's anatomy day, but
you're gonna do the answer, you know.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
My eyes were locked on hers.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
I was like, what is it going to come out
of her next?
Speaker 6 (33:50):
And I had no answer. I want to know the answer.
Speaker 7 (33:54):
We're going to transition into scrubbing.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
In part two, The Stoking tapped on a steep and
tapped in the street.
Call It what It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Ludington,
an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Hello, Hello, Hello, call It Crew. Hello, jess are sitting
here on top of the world, on top of the
world in Chicago.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
We are here for a con which is a convention
right where we get to meet fans. And we found
out that there was another podcast happening in Chicago at
the same time as us, and that was Scrubbing In.
And I know you guys have heard of this podcast
because they love Gray's Anatomy. I've been on the podcast,
(00:51):
and to be honest, right now, I'm paying my pants
a little bit because they are so professional an experts
and they're sitting right in front of him staring at them,
and we are like the feetus babies.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I don't really know what we're doing. I know I know.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Babies.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
So Tanya and back, can you say hello to the.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
We are so honored to be here, truly, like the
honor is ours?
Speaker 6 (01:20):
No, I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
I think it's it's a co honor.
Speaker 6 (01:23):
I think it's a co honor. But I do think
since our podcast titled name is in reference to this.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Is it's like royalty, like this is actually actual royalty,
and it's actually really nice. We didn't bring we have
pillows that are like the size of like a bean
with your faces on them.
Speaker 7 (01:45):
We didn't bring them here, so you don't.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
You don't have the pleasure of seeing yours.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
They're a situation.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Hala likes the crown.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
So I'm.
Speaker 7 (01:57):
Yeah, wait, can we cheers, because I'm honest, cheer a bottle?
Speaker 6 (02:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Okay, Okay, I'm excited because usually I'm on your podcast
and you asked me questions and we get to ask
you guys questions today.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
That's right, it's true, right, Okay, but I sort of
actually forgot the component, which is like besties and besties.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Yeah, yes, maybe that's where we start. O friendship components.
Speaker 6 (02:28):
Are saying, like the hair, the similarity, the hair.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Color, the hair color, it's like looking at our youngest.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
So I feel like, yeah, yeah, forty, Okay, you're forty.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
She said, like, no, I love how people are shocked.
I'm like, oh my god, thanks. Oh let's be honest.
If they weren't shocked, you'd be pissed.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
I really obviously not lie about it, obviously.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Okay, so you guys are best friends? Where did you
first meet.
Speaker 6 (03:05):
We met at an iHeart festival in Vegas. Yes, she
was not super warm to me.
Speaker 7 (03:10):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Okay, first of all, no, she's so dramatic and she
knows our story a little bit too.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Because we did not get along okay, no, okay, okay,
okay so.
Speaker 7 (03:21):
Much, and you didn't like her.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
She didn't really know it.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I know she mean it very obviously, guys.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
The problem is she always likes to say this, but
like I, when I love people like I get really
excited to see them. And she was with two people
that I already had known. I didn't know her, so
I was really excited to see the people that she
was with, and I was like, nice to you.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
I thought opid'ctly I would say she was tepid.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
But then, as fate would have it, we ended up
she ended up moving into the apartment literally right next
door to mine, so we shared a wall, and that's
when everything like flipped for us, because we just became
like inseparable at that point, Like we literally shared a
wall for a little.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Intimate I feel like I sure was.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
Yeah, some of us have some spatial boundaries that others
still and I would be like waking up. You know,
she is on a morning radio show, so she gets
up early, comes home while I'm still waking up, basically yeah,
and she would just turn the knob like ready to
come in, and she like knock until I answered it,
Why is your door locked? And like, well I was sleeping,
(04:28):
So that's why she acts like this.
Speaker 7 (04:31):
Yeah, she loves it. No, I know, I actually.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
Think y'all are similar. Two of you.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
No boundaries in these friendships need Yeah, she would like.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Get me ready for like dates and stuff, like she
would like do my hair and like do I make
up for me?
Speaker 7 (04:49):
And like it was like a really sweet time.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Do you imagine if we had that time in our
lives together you would not let me do I actually
would because you do that really pretty thing with your eyes,
and I I don't love ever everybody to do that.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
I can do it.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Look on if you guys like when you're when you
guys are like old, do.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
You want houses side by side?
Speaker 6 (05:12):
Then like no, there's an instant No, No, I don't.
I don't think we need that. No, like a close
drive away is good.
Speaker 7 (05:20):
We're too far away from each other right now.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
I know I moved to you and you moved away.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
I know, yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Moved in with my fiance, but uh, we're a little
bit too far. We're about ten minutes ten to eleven
minute drive.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I prefer to be far.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
It's it's good for me personally, Like it's a perfect distance.
So I'm not yeah, I'm not trying to like She's
like talking about moving to the valley and I'm like, oh, yeah,
that's how where how close to me close?
Speaker 7 (05:51):
She acts like this, but she she loves it.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
She loves it.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Yeah, I get that. Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
When we walked in, we were blinded by.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
The ring on Tanya's finger almost immediately.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, I know, she's like a magpie.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
She's like a mag I'm like, shiny, shiny, sparkling.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
Engaged.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
You were last time I saw you were not engaged?
Speaker 6 (06:14):
Correct? Wait, so when did you get engaged?
Speaker 5 (06:15):
So I've actually been engaged for a year, but we
need a story, the engagement story.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
Yes, we love it.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Well, we were dating for three years before we got engaged.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Woaw.
Speaker 7 (06:29):
I know it's a long time for like, yeah, later
in your life.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
But my faderhead, Yeah, well no.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
I mean, like a lot all my friends, a lot
of my friends got married in their twenties, like early
twenty of your life. Really love when you're talking, I
feel like a lot of people get married early on
in their twenties, yes, and I'm like in my later thirties,
so I mean right later on in life.
Speaker 7 (06:48):
But I was like ready for it, Like after the
first year.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
I was like, I'm ready for it, and he was
divorced with kids, and so he was kind of like
on the slower path. Yeah, So we met in the middle,
and it was really beautiful. He did it on like
a Sunday. I was like not expecting at all. He
had all of our closest friends and our family, and
like Becca was there and she was filming, so I
was obviously surprised for me. So I didn't know that
they were all there, and Becca was basically like filming
(07:13):
everybody and kind of like their excitement of it like
before I came out, and so like getting to see
those videos is so special because I didn't know what
was going on, and getting to like see all their
conversations and they were all like helping him decide like
where to set it up, and she was in charge
of the speaker for the music, and like he just
gave everybody a job, and it was just like really
really sweet.
Speaker 7 (07:33):
Oh yeah, and he.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Has he has how many kids?
Speaker 7 (07:36):
Two kids? Ten and twelve? Oh boys?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Oh okay great, yeah, oh that's exciting.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
And did you find it stressful, like keeping that secret?
Because I hate secrets.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
I love secrets. You do.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
You're a good I'm so bad.
Speaker 7 (07:51):
Yeah, she's like a vaulted Did you ever have to
go yeah dinner.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
I think a few days before, like the week before,
and she was talking about plans or something, and I
was so casual. It was just like just oh.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
My god, break a sweat break. Did you really have
no idea? Did anyone do the whole? Like, why don't
you go get.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Your nails done today?
Speaker 6 (08:09):
No?
Speaker 7 (08:10):
Because I do always.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah, I've been preparing for like a.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
Year, like I was.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
For a year before we got engaged, So I was like.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
Ready for it.
Speaker 7 (08:22):
Yeah, so there was no need to like prepare me.
I was like read it. Yeah yeah, yeah right.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
But I was surprised the day of because it was
like after a Jonas brother's concert.
Speaker 7 (08:31):
It was a Sunday. I was hungover, like it was
so weird but perfect.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
Yeah, Oh my gosh, I couldn't even he packed me
makeup because basically what it is he handed me. We
did like a couple's massage, but they said like the
room was broken or whatever, so they put me in
a room by myself. After my massage, they handed me
a note that was written by him saying like the time,
like it's been a long time coming, your dress and
(08:55):
your makeup is in your locker. I'm waiting for you
on the terrace. So like then I knew. So I
just started like bawling and what. Yeah, So I knew
at that point, like we were getting engaged. And I
looked at my massage therapist and I was like I'm
getting engaged, and I like hugged her and like I
just started bawling. And then I had all my makeup,
but I couldn't even put it on because I was
just like crying so hard.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
This he is moving. But also it's like he asked, like.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
I'm tripping on.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
He kind of asked you without even being there because
he said what it was gonna be.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
Yeah, it literally was like just one sentences like it's
been a long time coming. Uh, your dress and the
make and your makeup or in your lockers, I'm waiting
for you.
Speaker 7 (09:36):
In the terrace and I was like.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
Oh, this is wow.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
I would say yes if I opened a random locker
and that was a note, I'm like sorry, man, Yeah yeah,
race is here and I'm all the genrors.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah mine, I know that's deep.
Speaker 7 (09:55):
Yeah, it was cute. It was really cute.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
And so many is officiating.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
We heard rumors.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Yes, So I work. I work on the morning show
on Earth Ryan Seacrest, and he he loves like he
loves my fiance. They like really get along really well.
And I feel like it's really symbolic because I lived
out so much of like my single life on the
air and on the morning show, and so the fact
that he's going to like officiate for us is like
very sentimental and kind of like full circle.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
I don't know that I've ever said this on the
podcast before, but I was an I listened to the
Morning show every morning on my way to grace.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
You all did.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Chunk of I mean, I what undid me was because
I was pregnant so many times on the show and
there it's an emotional roller coaster.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
You go through a lot of different you.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Know, yeah, imagine And it was Ryan's roses that I
was like I can't listen to one.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
More horrible person in the world. I just can't do it.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah, it just makes me just lose my.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
Faith in humanity.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
It was Ryan's roses that put me over the edge,
and but I listened to it all the time, which
is so crazy to me now because I think, now
my habits are I get in and I've got my
Spotify play.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Did I just go straight to that?
Speaker 7 (11:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (11:11):
Now, I really did.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
I listened to all the banter.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
Yeah. Thing.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
So like when I started with him, I had like
I had just broken up with this guy that I
thought I was going to marry, and so it was
like this whole whirlwind of like my life got turned
upside down. I started dating again, like it was. My
whole single life was literally documented on the Morning show.
And so it's like it's going to be like a
full circle moment to have him like a fishing kind
of like end that chapter for me.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
You know, what do you think Ryan's going to get
you as your wedding present?
Speaker 7 (11:40):
You know, his presence is our present?
Speaker 6 (11:44):
No?
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Come on, I need well no, but yeah, but okay,
all right, I got the answer.
Speaker 7 (11:49):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I want to imagine that Ryan's going to get you
like a like a.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
House, like a like a white rose voice.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
Next to you.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
Yeah, it would be the dream, honestly. Yeah, yeah, no
I don't.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
It's so funny because we're actually talking about that. I
was like, I don't want I don't want anybody coming
to the wedding to like give us a gift, like
I'm going to toast her from like my best friends
that are coming to my wedding.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Special design.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Yeah, I felt that way. I put like, no, you know,
I didn't have a registry. I was like, it's.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Fine, don't worry about it. You guys coming. Okay, I
seriously regret that.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Oh really, yes, you regret not having a registry.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Okay loves Okay, No, wait, back up.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Having a registry, because what would a registry do tell
people what to get you?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Yeah, hey, people got you weird stuff. No, you guys,
let me give you some context. Jessica has a registry
for her birthday, for.
Speaker 6 (12:54):
Her birthday, not every amazing.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Superior and well, we know how you feel about it.
But let the women speak, because I just heard the
one a ramp up to this is a it's amazining.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
She thinks it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Okay, let's go back to your story.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
How a registry is.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I want to people really quick care about you to
Jessica's birthday.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
There's a link to a registry.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
For that's my dream. What I hate having to think
about what someone's gonna like for a gift.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
And imagine if they were all different price points.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Perfect, I mean the fact that switch.
Speaker 7 (13:35):
Yeah, actually, like.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
I would actually, I don't know what I would do
if somebody send me a link to their registry for
their birthday, I'd be like, no, I'm giving your pull off.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
I know.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
I did not have a registry for my wedding. I
regretted it because all of my kitchen stuff is crap.
It's stuff that I had from like my twenties, and
I could have done like a nice toaster or like
cooking Star. I still don't have stuff.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Now I change.
Speaker 7 (14:06):
I might change my mind on the birthday.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
Coming up in December, I might start doing this because
like that, just I felt excited hearing about that. My God,
And now even if you didn't say like specifics, if
it was like here's stores that I love, yeah, anything
that you want to get me from that, yes, I
love that. Okay, Becca, Yeah, do we hear wedding balls
(14:39):
for you? Oh?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
How are you feeling?
Speaker 6 (14:43):
I feel great about my relationship. But we've been together
for six years, I know, but we just officially moved
in together last month, actually a couple months ago, but
she left and worked for three months in Canada. So yeah,
So she's asked me like three times every day if
I'm going to get married.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
She's going to keep it a secret. She's like, I'm
not going to tell anybody. So now I feel like
I have to ask her every day.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
But when it happens, I'm just saying, I will propel anybody.
I think it would eventually be both of us proposed,
but I don't know. I would imagine I would.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
I would have time that though, you just do you
have the discussion beforehand of like, hey, this is going
to be the day that we proposed to each other.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
No, no, no, so romantic.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
But she's for that you both proposed.
Speaker 7 (15:28):
I think one doesn't like a couple of months.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
Later on so that we both get to where, you know,
the room okay, but no, we are really just adjusting
the living together. But I know, like I want to
be with her, prepper, I'm not like a wedding, Like
I'm not like, oh, I dreamed of my wedding my
whole life. You were on the Bachelor, listen, I know,
and I'm dating a woman.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Now there's room, there's room.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
Grew up in the South, and I think there was
the expectation of, like you get married young kids, and
I was always like what I just assumed I was
going to do? So The Bachelor felt very much unnatural
in the stance of how it was done. But I
was like, Okay, nothing, the apps aren't working. Let's see
if this works two times and yeah, did it? And
then I met her. I think two years after that.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Would you ever go back and watch old episodes?
Speaker 6 (16:18):
Oh? No, like watching I was. I want to. We'll
talk about this later. But watching yourself on a screen
like that is the most uncomfortable thing to me.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Well, that's so much worse.
Speaker 6 (16:28):
We played character.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
I mean we yeah, we we had other people's words
so we could.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
Watch was like a little like, well it wasn't me, yeah, right,
but right.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I actually find it strangely, and I've given what we're
doing right now. I find it hard to listen to myself. Yes,
I really had to hear yourself a voicemailing you like
who not me?
Speaker 7 (16:48):
How I found Yeah?
Speaker 6 (16:50):
No, so yeah that's what I did.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Wait, so you because because I had to be reminded
that you were on the Bachelor. So I have a question,
given that you have real life experience being on a
show like that, do you have do you feel like
you feel differently or or do you what is your
feeling and or impression of shows that catch fire like
Love Island?
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Like do you do you watch it?
Speaker 6 (17:15):
Did you watch it? I'm not into Love Island?
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Are there any.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Reality shows that you're into?
Speaker 6 (17:19):
So I so my girlfriend loves The Bachelor like that
I've never watched before I was on it. And then
when I met her, she tried to act like she
didn't watch my seasons. I found out like a few
months into our relationship she was like a diehard fan.
She was like, oh yeah, she's like I am. I
think I started watching around Rachel Lindsay's season, which was
(17:40):
like a few after mine, and I was like, oh okay.
And then I found like an old you know, like
when you start dating somebody stalk their whole Instagram. I
like went like backfar and she did a literal Instagram
video where she's almost like it was almost like my
conversation with one of the Bachelor's verbatim no, because that
was a virgin. I was like, oh, I don't know
what I want to do, and and it was basically
(18:01):
like my conversation that she was acting out. And I
was like, this was the year that I was on
the Bachelor, So you literally were watching.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
I realized that I have to catch up here. But
you went on the Bachelor as a virgin.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
Oh yeah, yeah, okay, so I grew up the Christian.
Speaker 7 (18:15):
That was my story for story.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
So I didn't want it to be because I knew
as soon as they found out about that that was
gonna be my storyline. Yeah. There was another girl in
there who was a virgin. She was crying because she
had just told him and she was like, I don't
know how he receiving right? Actually, I ah yeah, and
I go, oh, I'm a virgin too, and like in
my mind I said it, and I was like I
have a microphone and like seven cameras on the right,
and I'm like damn. I was like I was trying
to not do that. And immediately a producer was like, Becca,
(18:40):
come here, interview. Yeah, so that became like my storyline, gotcha, Yeah, when.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
You're on the show, do you have to wear a
mic from the moment you wake up?
Speaker 6 (18:51):
I was They kind of like would get so annoyed
with me because I would be. I would wait till
they had to come and find me to be like, Becky,
you have to put a microphone on because it was
like on your back all day.
Speaker 7 (19:01):
It was so uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
They are uncomfortable.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Old were you when you on the first time twenty six?
Speaker 6 (19:06):
But I was. I grew up very conservative, very Christian,
so and in hindsight, I honestly think it may have
been because I was more into women. But in my
mind it was easier.
Speaker 7 (19:15):
To be like, yeah, right, it's religious.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
You know. But yeah. I would get in the pool
because you could take your mic off when you were swimming,
but it was they'd.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
Be like, where's backup?
Speaker 6 (19:29):
I would try Yeah, So basically though, and then I
hated the fact that I had it when I was
going to back I just like I felt it's so invasive,
super invasive. I feel like reality I know, but she
loves speaking of like reality shows. She's obsessed with all
violands and so I watched.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
You Obsessed Cannot Get Enough, Like when I tell you like,
but not the USA only UK.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Yeah, I've heard that that one.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
So UK. They're like next level, next level there there.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
It's weird because they're all interacting, they're doing the same people,
but they do so respectfully. Yeah yeah yeah, and they're
still drama, but they deal with it in such like
a respectful, mature manner.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
That's what I've heard.
Speaker 7 (20:11):
Yes, So it's like so interesting to watch.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
When I saw one episode of the American version and
I was like, this last season I swore, And because
I heard my my thirteen year old talking with her
friends because we're a little bit like I'm very wary
of the social media and kids and all that stuff,
so I kind of toe that line. And they don't
have social media, so they you know, she just got
(20:35):
Snapchat and she gets like twenty minutes a day, thirteen.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
She's thirteen.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
She just got a phone, and so I think she's
figured out different little workarounds.
Speaker 7 (20:48):
Yeah, I love.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
You, Eve, And so she was talking to some friends
about it, and it's like whether she would be at
someone else's house and maybe they won't have it all
or I think you can find everything on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
YouTube.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
So anyways, it was put into my consciousness and then
I thought, well, I should see like some piece of
this before I'm saying how horrible it is or or
whatever you know. And so I watched one episode like
I wanted to like burn my eyeballs out.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
This cannot be watched by my thirteen year old child.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
So till your thirteen year old to watch the UK version,
Thank you. It's much more sophisticated.
Speaker 7 (21:35):
Yeah mannered, Yeah, manner mannered.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
I speaking of reality, I've just gotten her started on
the Mormon Uh yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
The Secret Lives. So I just started it. I'm only
one episode in, so.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
Don't yeah I can.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I'm not going to spoil it.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
People love it, people are going crazy over it. Yeah yeah.
But everyone was obsessed with Love Island USA.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Island USA was top tier television. When I tell you
you liked it, Oh, so I swore off USA. I
was like, I will never watch Love Island USA ever,
Like never, And then UK this last season, I was
watching it and it was really bad, and I was like,
I need my fix in the summer. So I heard
everybody was like in the USA, So I went over
(22:18):
to the USA and it was phenomenal. So this last season,
hats off. They deserved some awards for this last season
because it was any dating reality show. I'm like, there, yeah, wow, yeah,
wow yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:33):
Love is Blind.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Love is Blind UK, Mexico, USA.
Speaker 6 (22:37):
Yes, you can get a nuddy anywhere.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Can we talk about Taylor Swift?
Speaker 6 (22:58):
Oh? Sure?
Speaker 7 (22:59):
So Beck as best friend?
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (23:01):
So so we have we you know, before we do podcasts,
we get notes on things. And I was like, yay
yy I know these girls. And I was like, wait
a tick. Taylor Swift knew about you and Haley before
anybody else did.
Speaker 6 (23:18):
Not before anybody else but before my parents? How how
this is actually such a crazy story. So we love it.
My girlfriend Haley, she's a singer and she was on
tour with She was opening for a Panic at the
disco at the time, and she was on the same
tour schedule kind of as Taylor, and so Taylor reached
out and asked if she wanted to perform with her
(23:40):
during her reputation tour, and so Haley, Haley was like
really respected Taylor, but wasn't like, didn't know like a
tonuber of music or anything, you know, just very like
respected her as an artist, but she knew I was
like obsessed with Taylor. And she's like, oh, they just
called and we're going to be in Boston at the
same time. They want me to come out and perform
Curious with her during the concert, and I was like,
(24:01):
I'm flying out. Tell me to day. When is this happening. So,
in for context, we met in April, basically started dating
as soon as we met. She went on tour, and
then this was in July. So however, many months okay three,
all my friends knew about us. My sisters lived with
me at the time, my two younger sisters, and so
I fly out there and she goes on stage performs.
(24:23):
I'm in like the friends and family section with Mama
Swift like I'm just like, this is the coolest thing ever.
And I'm videoing my girlfriend on stage with Taylor Swift.
I'm like, this is so epic, you know. So we
go back to Haley's green room, Haley and her mom
go to Taylor's dressing room with Taylor and her mom
and they're chatting. I'm in Haley's green room, I'm looking
(24:44):
at videos. I'm like, this is incredible, and my mom
texted me and she was like she had known about
like Hailey's name, but she was like, do you like
Haley more than a friend.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
At the same time on that night yeaheah. So I'm
like looking for my foot off that night.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
I don't no, I guess because she knew. I think
I told her like I'm going to Boston Haley's performing whatever. Yeah,
So my mom texts me that I'm like staring at
my phone, and Haley's security guard comes over and he's like, hey,
Taylor wants to say hi, So I'm going to take
you to her dressing room. So like i go in
with the most heavy feeling because I'm like, I'm about
(25:21):
to meet my favorite celebrity ever and I have to
come out to my mom tonight. Like it was just
so this like crazy balance. So we talked about I
think we talked like Bachelor in Paradise or something. It
was like, she's so you've met her.
Speaker 7 (25:38):
She's so she's the best normal.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
She's so like intentional, like when she's having a conversation,
it's very like you're the person she's talking to. She
doesn't care what's going on. And then yeah, I had
to go on Haley's bus and have a very hard
conversation with my mom.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
Crazy.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
That's an insane story, and I'm very jealous.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
I feel like there's so many different layers to that.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
There's there had to have been.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
I'm I'm when we talking about I'm a little more
woo woo.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I'm a little more like the destiny of it, Like
things happened right when they're meant to happen, all that
stuff for that to happen, because to have something that's
so so hard sitting side by side something that was
so so fantastic, the true I mean, that's incredible, right
that you got to feel those two things and maybe
(26:33):
even use some of the energy from I'm with my
most favorite artists in the world, and I think that
there's like an emotional contagion that happens between people. So
like that bolstering and that confidence and that like joy
got to come and be in your story of doing
something you thought it was gonna be really hard.
Speaker 7 (26:50):
Yeah that's cool.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Yeah, it was a lot crazy, crazy tense.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
I love that.
Speaker 6 (26:58):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I have a question about just podcasting, okay, because we
are the podcast.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Babies compared to you guys.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
You guys are like the varsity, the seniors. What are
some tips for us to be better at tips and
tricks for us.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
To be better at our jobs?
Speaker 7 (27:21):
You're just such a nerd.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
What are some things that you guys learned along the way.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
I bet you're like, I wish I knew it from
day one when I started this podcast.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
I wish I knew this this.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
I feel like we've been doing it for seven years
and there's gonna be people in your ear that tell
you to do it this way, or do this way,
or talk to this person or how you know.
Speaker 7 (27:45):
I always feel like.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Our gut is always right on things like if we're
having fun and we're liking the people that we're having
on the podcast is great. If we're not having fun
and it's not someone that we want to talk to,
it's not enjoyable. So I think, like, just listen to
your gut and your intuition. I think that's like my
(28:07):
biggest thing.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
And also I feel like the like my most vulnerable
episodes where I left the like recording being like, oh god,
do I need them to take that hour or edit,
you know, but have decided to leave it in have
been the most like impactful moments of the podcast, like
our vulnerable moments where we cry. You know. It's just
I think that's what people listen to podcasts for, especially
(28:28):
when it's a relationship in terms of friendship and they
want to know you. There's this element of vulnerability with
podcasts that people gravitate towards because they essentially are listening.
And obviously y'all are y'all are celebrities and people have
y'all in this like y'all are their favorite from their
favorite TV show ever, so there's a difference in that,
but they're listening because they love you, guys, and they
(28:50):
want to hear about your lives and it doesn't have
to be so polished. My girlfriend has a really hard
time with social media, for instance, because she's a traditional
actress and artist. So the social media of it, all
of it all is intimidating to her because it's very
casual in the sense that it's, yeah, it's not filtered,
it's not edited, whereas traditional creative people are used to
(29:11):
that needing like it to be perfect and look a
certain way. And so I think that's the most The
thing that I've noticed is when we're the most authentic
and raw and just like vulnerable with our feelings and
how what we're doing.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
If we mess something up and we're like, should do
it over, and then we're like, no, keep it in.
We'll just keep it all in, just let it, let
it go.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
But I listened to y'all's podcast, and I feel like
y'all do such a y'all's banter. So it's when you
have natural chemistry with someone's huge, it makes the biggest No,
that's giving.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Her a little shoulder on camera shoulder.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
No, I think we're finding that too, something that Jessica.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Gave her a wink.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
No.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
I think something that jess and I I've talked about
before we started the pod was that we are so
used as actors, used to being polished and making sure
we don't say the wrong thing quote unquote, and you know,
giving an answer, buttoning it, moving on. And this was
initially kind of intimidating and exciting all at the same time,
(30:17):
because we were like, Okay, we're going to have to
get vulnerable and we're not.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
We that's not really are mo O normally.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Well, I think that for when you're an actor, you
are usually representing a project.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
When you're reviewed or you're in front of camera or
being heard.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Yes, and in pot when you're on a podcast, you're
representing yourself and so that transition from I'm representing someone
else and how they would like for this project to
be represented, right, and I'm representing myself and I need
to trust for me.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Like the biggest thing has been.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
That that equal parts trust and connection, which is you know,
because we're all looking for that. Even when you're just
listening and you're listening in on you know, I mean
listening to both of you talk, it's like there's this
incredible dynamic knowing and belonging and trust and all that stuff,
and you hear it when you guys are when you're
(31:11):
just talking. And I think that that you know, people
want to tune into. And I think that in the
beginning for us, it was it's been so new that
you sort of like you're still doing the razzle dazzle
on some level, like what is the thing like what's
going to be entertaining or right?
Speaker 6 (31:28):
Right?
Speaker 1 (31:28):
And I think that it's wild to think that in
this in this medium, you kind of like the less
entertaining that you try to be the better.
Speaker 7 (31:37):
I think something is I think like you're you. That's
the thing.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
Like the people that listen to your podcast are like
listening for you, and they will come with you and
they will do life with you, and they will that
they're there for you. And so it's like I think
that's been like it's such a beautiful relationship because it's
like you meet these people, like when we did some
of our live shows, it's like you meet these people
and they've been invested and they like know so much
(32:01):
of you and your life and your story, and they
relate to things and at the end of the day,
like human connection, we all no matter what celebrity non celebrity,
we all deal with the same stuff. So it's like
you're you find people that are kind of in similar
life phases, Like I get women that DM me about dating, divorced,
dads with kids and how do you navigate that? And
you know, like all these different things that they connect
(32:23):
with you on And I think that's the thing is
it's like that's what resonates, that's what sticks. Those are
the people that are going to stick with you. So
if you just go with your gut and like always
stay true to that, that's what's gonna hold strong you know.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
I was also gonna say one of my favorite episode,
whatever listener's favorite episode is the story about we were
in a nail salon. I was just gonna go into
the Voulderville thank you so much, and Tanya got up
from the nail salon and parted, and it like kept
going and it's like.
Speaker 7 (32:49):
We were hard story for twenty minutes.
Speaker 6 (32:55):
Every time I stepped, it was like it just kept
farting walking and it kept I was like.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
I was in this phase of life where I was
too sugar free gum, like it was like my job and.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
I didn't know the impact that it was going to.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Happen GI and I got that impact.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
I felt the impact of listeners and it was like
one of our most listened to podcasts.
Speaker 7 (33:17):
And it was like literally about me aarready get nails.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
I'm just learning about vulnerability, a real true life. And
I wanted to ask a question that has nothing to
do with that. I want to talk about you if
you have pistol woman, since your Gray's anatomy day, but
you're gonna do the answer, you know.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
My eyes were locked on hers.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
I was like, what is it going to come out
of her next?
Speaker 6 (33:50):
And I had no answer. I want to know the answer.
Speaker 7 (33:54):
We're going to transition into scrubbing.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
In part two, The Stoking tapped on a steep and
tapped in the street.
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