August 25, 2025 • 44 mins
Everyone is obsessed with 'The Hunting Wives' on Netflix and SO ARE WE!
Emmy-nominated actress Chrissy Metz takes us behind-the-scenes of the series that has captured country club drama like never before.
From the sex scenes that will make you blush, to the comments that make Chrissy laugh out loud...this is everything you want to know about the hottest show on streaming.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington,
an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Well, Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello Call It crew.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
And welcome to another episode of Call It What It Is.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Oh, today we have a very lovely guest named chrisy Metz.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yeah, look at that.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
I kind of rhymed, Yeah, it did.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
She is. I didn't know this. I didn't know that
she was a triple threat. I know, obviously very talented actor.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
I did not know a singer too, and that she
released a children's album that she.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Had a big party and performance at the Grand Ole
Opry here in.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Nashville, Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
And that album is called Big Feelings. And she's also
an author, and of course, I mean, I mean I
was going to say, like, how do we do this?
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Injury?
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I feel like it's it's if you can still call
things this.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
It's the summer runaway hit.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
It's the runaway hit of the summer, right, I mean,
do you feel like everybody's talking about the Hunting Wives?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I know, it's like it's like one of those rare
shows where you're back to like water cooler talk, yes, like,
oh my god, did you just see what happened?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
And everyone's time and it's just exploded.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
So she's on The Hunting Wives right now, which is
streaming on Netflix, and we just figured.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Oh my god, we got to have her on.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
She's also People magazine cover girl, so I mean, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
She's yes, and she did a deep dive on emotional eating,
body image, dating, faith, how all those threads we through
her daily life. She sort of put it all out there,
which I just love. I love people being so open
and vulnerable like that. And I'm just so I'm I
need to pick her brain on all the things, all
(02:00):
the things.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
That's all right, all things, Well, let's talk.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
Hi.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Hello, are you in Nashville right now? Are you?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Where are you?
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I'm in La Oh you are Okay, I'm in Nashville.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Yes, and I mostly live in Nashville, but I didn't
want to time it that the flight that blah blah blah.
Oh yeah yeah they here, okay, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Well when I'm here, I'm because we just started filming,
so I'm sort of.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
New to put This is actually the first podcast that
I'm doing from here.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
So I did a little dress for her, and this
is so fitting because this is now partly your new home.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Yeah, do you are you enjoying the show? Is it?
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Yes? Yes, yes, yes, yes. You know I keep saying.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Because it's so true and it's something that we really
want to talk to you about, because obviously you and
I have it in common, is that when you're on
a show that you spend more than a minute on,
you get to know that show in a way that's
just super familiar and you know how everyone does every thing,
and this is how everything goes.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
And and then when.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
That show's done, you you go onto whatever. I mean,
there's there's that period which I would love to talk
to you about and how you feel about it and
felt about it. But then as far as it goes
for this show, when you start a new thing that
you're like, hmm, you don't get the beginning back again, right,
So you're just starting with all this like fresh yumminess
(03:24):
where you're like, okay, there's two roads, right, like which
way are we going? Because you're setting new you're setting
new pathways, and so I find that very exciting. And
I think putting together teams is so much fun and
just such an opportunity, and so I have I've just
i've also been trying to take everything I've learned from
life in this business and bring.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
All the goodness to the top and put that into it.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
So it's been great and we have a really really
good team and we've been having fun and.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
It's but it's a it's ambitious.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
I mean, this show is well.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
I saw some clips and I think it looks like
there was a tornado coming through, like the sn Amphitheater
are somewhere, and you know, you can't believe everything you
see online, so I'm like, AI, is this real? And
I have PTSD about weather and I was like, well,
they're going to have to talk about tornadoes with Nashville
And then I was like, I don't know, but I
mean it's nine to one one right, so you know
what's going to be I octane intense And I was like,
(04:20):
oh boy, because those kinds of shows are hard for
me to watch. It's like too real.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Yeah, it's a lot, Yeah, it's a lot. Oh.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I feel like every day we're doing an I feel
like I'm on an action movie.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
You are, yeah, Jessica. It reminds me of the ride
at Universal Studios that you go on and they're like,
oh my god, there's an earthquake and there's like water.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I'm like, that is your set?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Yeah, and you know.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
What also to speak to that, Christy, I mean, I'm
learning as I go. Evidently we I say we like
I'm doing it.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
But I'm not the one that's actually doing it.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
But we.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Do a ton of practical stuff as opposed to the AI.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Like like a day.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Where we worked on Sunday and I don't know if
you were in town, but we closed down a bridge
and everybody was talking about it.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
So but we have that's a big deal. That's a
big deal.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
You closed down a bridge on a Sunday? Do you
want to get picked up again? Is better than Monday Duesday?
Speaker 5 (05:15):
Than good as it wasn't football season yet?
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Oh okay, yeah yeah, yeah, that probably couldn't have happened. Yeah,
the riots on the street. But we had a airstream
that had been picked up in aforementioned tornado and then
it had you know, gone up in the air, and
then it had somehow don't ask like really logistical questions
when talk comes to it, sounds like the wide flew
(05:38):
around the sky and somehow it got stuck to the
side of a bridge.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
As you could Christy wait, you talked about PTSD.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Have you been in a tornado?
Speaker 5 (05:48):
So I grew up in Florida, so hurricane central. And
then I also spent a lot of time or nine
years in Japan when I was a kid, so like earthquake,
sunami then and then I moved to La fires, earthquakes,
and then Nashville where tornadoes.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
So I'm like, what, so you've had them all?
Speaker 5 (06:08):
I haven't luckily been through like an actual tornado. It's
been near the house. But like I'm in the closet
with the helmet on, I'm not even playing. I'm not playing.
And I think I'm going to get a safe room
because I.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Can I come over to it.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Okay, I'm going to get your.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
What is your safe room, Jess, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I think I go in the basement.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Don't you go in the basement like Dorothy and the
Wizard of Oz.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
See, some people have basements, but the limestone is so
hard and heavy to get through. So if it's an
older house, which is great, then you probably have a
basement or a safe you know area. But with the
new homes, they don't have those. And so I'm going
to get one put into the garage.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Are in your room, and I'm glad for us.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Yes, I'm not pla.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
There's anything that happens here that's completely foreign to me.
I mean, I guess it did happen in Missouri. But
the sirens, oh, the tornado sirens.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
And you know, the first Saturday of every month it
goes off just for protocol and to make sure it's
working for and gigs. But you you, I end up
doing that in my pants because every time I'm like,
I'm like and then I'm like, Chrissy, it's sunny, Everything's fine.
(07:26):
They're actually really good about like preemptying everybody. And there's
a thing called Nashville Weather Nashville Weather Extreme. I follow
them on all the things social media. Now, I got
to yes, and my boyfriend's always said, Chrissy, and I'm like,
I need to be able hair and he's like, but
you're making yourself crazy. I'm like, you know, it's a
little much, but it sort of helps my anxiety with
(07:47):
it if I'm aware.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yes, I agree.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I just found an app that my girlfriend showed me
that shows you before you get on a flight.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
How about the turbulence is going to be.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
I don't need I don't need that. I don't need that.
I actually you want to know.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I think that if I know, like at thirty minutes
and I'm going to hit a little bumpy bumps, I'm
gonna feel better than just because as soon as he
gets on the mic and he's like, there's gonna be
a little turp, I do a littles on my pants too.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Yeah. Well, you know, there was a scientist who said
that turbulence it's just like if you're on a road
with like a jeep, whatever the tires shock. You know,
it's actually very safe, but it feels terrible you.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Or like a boat on water.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I mean it is, It's just it's just a yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
But this exactly, This.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Is a question that we ask ourselves lots of times.
And I'm curious about this, Christy, because it's defining when
you are feeling the affeared feelings, when you are feeling
a little a little worry creep in a little mindfulness
about this, that or the other.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Do you prefer to know or not know? Like, are
you the one that.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Goes I want to know everything about it so that
I can face it, or are you like you know
what don't need to know in my blinders don't Yeah, blinders.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
I think it's because like if I'm going to have
a surgery, I'm like, don't open your eyes to the
operating room. Right, Yeah, there's things I don't want to see.
But when it comes to like weather, I'm like, Okay,
if I can prepare myself and we can evacuate, if
we can get to the safe we can be like
that is like with an earthquake, you don't have any awareness,
(09:20):
and so then you're just like, why did thirty seconds
of my life feel like? And so I think I
would rather No, I think I would rather know all
the particular I think.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
So yeah, okay, all right, that doesn't have to be
your final answer, but that's your answer for in this.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Okay, we have to hop into what just just and
I dilan trip before you came on and we were
talking about how it really is you're on the show
of the Summer.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
We were saying what we were saying, is it is it?
Does it sound right to be like the.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Breakout Summer runaway hit? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Right? Also, how would you describe it, Chris, because you're
in it right now.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
I specked a little engine that could because it was
going to initially be on somewhere else and then it
got put on Netflix, and so we didn't think, you know,
there were going to be many eyes on it, and
then you know, as we're doing it and all the
ladies are so great and so fun, and you're like, oh,
this is wild. This show is wild.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
It is wild. It's a wild ride.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Yeah, you're reading it and then you're shooting the scenes,
but then you see it all together. Because obviously I
was not in all the wild scenes, at least not
the sexual ones, but it was like, oh, it's a
kind of jarring, and I knew what was coming. So
I was like, oh, people are either going to be
like full throttled into this or like, I don't know.
(10:45):
And some people are like I fast forward through all
this sex stuff and you know, I like the other stuff,
and I'm like, great, there's something for everyone.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
If they're saying that they didn't oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah they really didn't.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
They didn't they all right, yeah at half speed. Well
that's also.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
What's crazy, is like half speed, Like, you know, these
are beautiful women who you know, we've seen and had
great careers, and so it's so interesting, and then so
many people are offended because they're like, you know, why
does it have to be so much sex? And I'm
like and then there's all you know, our runs at
the comments section because I'm.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Like, so interesting or do you read the comments?
Speaker 5 (11:22):
Yeah, because I'm just so interested, Like I never take
anything to heart. Initially in my career, I certainly did.
And now I'm like, I can't attach to the good
or the bad. It just it's their opinion, and I
hope it's good and if it's not, okay.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
I attached to the good and I leave the bad. Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
It's hard to do though.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
It's so hard to do, so I just don't even
read comments.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
No, I don't think I yeah, I don't do it
a lot, but I did for this show only because
I wanted to see, you know, because people liked to
debate at each other in the comments, like this is
so ridiculous, this would never happen, and people are like,
I'm sorry, it's happening at the country club on the
street from my house, and I'm.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Like, what, what so anymore?
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Yeah? And then you know they're potentially doing like the
Hunting Wives reality.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Show what Christy don't even.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
No, I'm not doing it. No, I think they I
think they want people like from Texas, like real text
in women and all of their Scott I'm already obsessed.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, like a Real Housewives exactly.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
But then yes, so you know, I'm as yeah, I'm
sure it will do very well because I think also
with the reality people like to watch it and they're like,
oh they're they're much worse than I am, and you
feel better about yourself or something. There's a way that like, yeah,
it's kind of wild, and then you're like, oh self scripted.
Oh they're actually just acting, and you're like, oh, it's
not reality at all. Okay, cool, but you know, to
(12:49):
each your.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Own, well you said something. That's so I think it's
such a huge.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Piece of of of this show, which is that it
it is an incredibly impressive group of I mean from
Stem to Stern, right, I mean when I want to
watch the first episode.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
And Katie Low's we have shondaland family there.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Yes, that's my girl, Oh my god, she's She's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
But everybody is, I mean everybody is.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
I've known Molin for forever and like I mean watching
the credits and seeing again seeing all those names, just
the entire creative team is they're all just again powerhouses.
And then watching it and I mean, Molin just naked
within four seconds.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Oh oh yeah, she don't play no, like Katie jokes.
Katie's like if I look like that, I would been
naked too.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
I would, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
But when she drops it for the and the tampon
and you're like, oh my gosh, let's just throw.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
It all on there.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yeah, and it's within like, I don't know, that's not.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Like the first ten minutes of the show. Yes, I
was seated listen. I was seated. I was like, you know,
pouring my glass of wine. I'm like, I'm in, Yeah,
she's a girl ne to tampon.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Yeah, where is this spelling? And then why can't why
doesn't you have a tampa? Oh and you can't use
a tampa? Why can't you what? Yeah, It's like a
whole thing, and like that's what we I think. I
mean a part of the reason why we're on this
plane of existence is to commune. And when you have
something that people watch, whether they're privately in their home,
and then you talk about it at the water cooler
or you get on a podcast, It's like it's fun
(14:20):
because you get to share opinions. I'm like, oh my gosh,
can you even And there's something communal about that, and
you know, people love a wild ride, We love being entertained.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yeah, How did you feel because in the show, I'm
imagining that your character was like you have the beginning
where you and Brittany have that moment where it's like, oh, yes,
be friends. But then you do such an incredible job
of playing that god in just your face and just
your expressions and how all of it.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
You're just such a beautiful actress.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I felt absolutely your outsiderness, like You're like, I don't
like I'm.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
By the plant as you got to know them, You're like.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Don't go inside.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
You don't want to insider, stay on the outside.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Yeah, it ain't good in there. There's nothing good in
there for you, I know. And honestly that was hard
because I love all these girls and they are gorgeous
and like, of course they were dressed to the nines,
and so it really helped in my performance. I was like,
you know, I would look at their shoes and their
legs and the way they walked, and I'm like oh,
Star is nothing like these women. And in the subtext,
(15:29):
like I imagine that Jill and Starr were probably friends
in high school. You know, scar Star got divorced and
you know, maybe she put on some weight and she
was a single mom and like, you know, sort of
ostracized and it was like, oh, no, you're not good
enough to be our friend anymore, or you're not going
to have to be my friend anymore, and especially with
the small town kind of girls, and so yeah, I mean,
(15:51):
you guys, I had this wig that I went down
the rabbit hole because I was like, I want something
to be authentic. So I went down to like all
these salons in Tyler, Texas and all these very popular haircuts,
one particular, this bob with bangs, and I convinced everybody, yeah, okay,
let's do that. We cut it. We shot three scenes
and they were like it's too sad.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
They're like, my god, that's amazing.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Literally all the girls, moll and Brittany, Katie, they're like,
we want to cry just looking at you.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Like okay.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
So they were like, yeah, we gotta get rid of
the way.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
You can't do it, you can't do it, can't do it.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Oh we just can't. So it honestly, like it was
hard because the girls are so wonderful, but then the
way that everything is sort of developed, you're like, okay,
I'm going in that and we're not friends. I want
to be your friend, but you know, so it's it's
it's such a weird thing when you're shooting, but you know,
the way they dress star and like obviously your house
(16:50):
and everything comparatively to these women and their lives, it
like really helps to build and switch is great.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
How did you?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I'm so interested, like how did the project land in
your lap?
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Like, tell us about that process?
Speaker 5 (17:04):
Literally. Rebecca Cutter, who is the showrunner writer who also
did High Town, she's awesome. She is like the coolest.
She reached out to my manager and was like, you know,
we have this role that's really sort of this grounding
role in this show of wild women, and we would
love to see if Chrissy was interested, And like, listen,
(17:25):
I come from the world of like please, am I
going to ever have a job again?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yes, but we all do.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Yes, yeah for sure, never gonna work again, never again.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
And then you're like, I want it to be something
I either is going to challenge me or something that's different.
You know, all the stuff there so is blah blah blah,
and you know, for me, I'm like, oh gosh, this
is too controversial, Like I don't know. And I realized,
like art imitating life, like it's it just is what
it is. And some people have a hard time dealing
(17:57):
with that, and I'm like, it, it is what it is.
But I just I could relate to start. I mean,
my mom was a single mom and grew up with money,
and I grew up in the South, and you know,
being a plus sized girl, being just a plus sized
person all my life, Like I know what it's like
(18:17):
to feel like the outcasts or like I'm not in
the pretty girl group or so like I knew that.
And I was like, oh, and like rarely do we
see that woman sort of get to revenge or revenge
or like they speak her mind and stand her ground.
You know, it's usually like she's the pushover, the you know,
just forget it, like whatever, we can bury her. And
(18:42):
I was like, oh, I love that she actually confronts
Jill and she's like, yeah, we're not. I'm not just
gonna roll over and let you guys do that. Get
away with it, So I appreciated that. So yeah, I
was just I was grateful.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
How much of the series did you get given before?
Did you get the pilot? What did what you told
like pitch like the whole ark of the character?
Speaker 5 (19:16):
Yeah, essentially most of what was going to happen, okay.
And it's funny because running to the comment section, everyone's like,
I need to know what the conversation was between Star
and Jail when she got into the house with that shotgun.
People are shouting at like justice for sure. I was like,
were abby, you know, and like so it's nice to
(19:39):
play the roles that people are like, oh there's redemption.
They're they're good people, like even if they do bad
things like wanting to like assault someone with the rifle,
but you know, avenge their daughter.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
But nothing better than you getting that thing out of
the trunk and that does the unmistakableok.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Was like we were watching it together because I didn't
tell him any details, and when it when it caught
the shotgun, he goes, Okay, Yeah, I was even and
even like all the sort of the scene where I
pushed Katie Low's Jill, like it was so out of
character for me. I was like, Katie, I'm twice your size,
(20:17):
if not more. You're a little baby girl. I don't
want to hurt you, girl, please, And you know, Katie
is just like.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
In for she's in yeast.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
She's like and so you know, we work with the
stunt coordinator to make it look. You know, obviously you
guys know all the stuff. But I was like, oh gosh,
I don't really cuss that people, and I certainly don't
get angry. And so it was cathartic because I'm sure
stuff that need to come out, but by all my family,
because I don't ever bark back. I'm the middle child,
I'm the diplomat. Everyone's like, oh oh, so my brother
(20:48):
in law was like, I'm not messing with you, Christy,
and I was like, you go, but that that you
know where there's we don't know. And then poor stars
on the ground spoiler alert in the kitchen, and you know,
people are like, can it just be a flash wound?
Can you come back? And they're you know, I'm like,
(21:10):
you never know, you never know. But I think that
Star knew something that nobody else knew. And do you
remember when Jill was scrubbing off her car, she erased
the GPS information. Yeah, I'm like, and remember Abby was
limping through the woods. I think Jill went after her,
accidentally hit her, freaked herself out left, and somehow Star
knew that, and so that's why Star was like, hold on,
(21:33):
that's my.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Thought, like the conspiracy.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
Yeah right, so I'm like.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
You're starting Reddit threads right now, Chrissy, you're starting reddit
thread Yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
We need a flash vaccine, we need the particulars. So anyway,
but yeah, it was like.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Is this show open for a season two?
Speaker 5 (21:50):
I think so?
Speaker 3 (21:51):
I mean, of course, it's such a huge hit, like
they yeah at the end.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
I mean, I mean, I guess they always figure it
out where to pick up from.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
There, right listen, if there's money around, I know.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Yeah, they'll figure it. Yeah, they'll figure it out.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
Yeah, they'll figure it out. But I don't know. It's
also kind of one of those things where like do
they want to do a second season? But I think
people would be on on the ride. I think people
are like, oh yeah, what else.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Oh well, they certainly got on it this summer. So
you said something and I actually had. I think it's
the thing that I can't quite so watch me bumble
through this it's I can't quite formulate my question, but
maybe you'll help me. Is that you said it's controversial. Yeah, yes,
the show is controversial from where I sit with my perspective,
with the way that I see the world, the show
(22:38):
is controversial. But as you mentioned earlier, there are some
people in the comments that are like, yeah, that's my life. Yes,
and I think it's my I guess maybe there isn't
a question here. Maybe it's that my I think maybe
one of the reasons that it it has really, you know,
just compelled so many people is because of that, like
(22:59):
there's something in it for everyone, whether you're in line
with the beliefs and stories that are being put forward,
or if you're like, oh no, there's something in it
for everyone, or.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
You're like, oh, I don't know what I would have
done in that situation. Maybe I would have done with
Margot or Sophie did, or Callie did, Like I think
that's what art and whatever level you want to, you know,
put it in or box you want to put it in.
It's like it's supposed to sort of make you question
yourself or your perspective, or your beliefs or your morals,
(23:32):
your standards, your values, and then you're like, oh, I'm
really no better than anybody else because I might have
picked up a shotgun and threatened someone, or you know,
or if the beautiful woman's making advances at me. Like
poor Sophie, who was like this just like a you know,
a little crumble of a woman, felt like no. I
mean for me, I just was like, oh god, this
(23:53):
woman is so broken, and you know, she's not on
the same page as her own husband and God blessed,
but like, you know, and she gets his attention from
this wonderful, like badass woman and you're like, oh gosh,
I mean, he.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Did a really good job of being like not he
was like there was nothing wrong with him.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
I know, there was like nothing right.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
You're like, yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
I know, he's so great, I know. And you just
have to I always try to like sympathize with each character.
Like you know, poor Margo, her entire life, all she
had to do was like scratch claw and fight her
way through. Oh my god, she just to put food
on the table. I mean, yeah, you literally stole a
man's truck to like pay rent because her mom couldn't,
you know, Like, but you know why these people have
(24:37):
become this way, not that we justify it, not that
like we could go to therapy, but like do your work.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
You do your work, do your work.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
Your stuff shouldn't be someone else's stuff. But you can
also like understand like oh gosh, like all right, you know,
maybe she's doing the best she can and then she
gets in this situation with Jed who when he slaps her.
I thought out of the seat like that, and I knew,
you know, but I.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Oh, with all the respect to Dermot mulrooney, clearly he
did a good job because I'm going to say this,
he was disgusting.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Yeah, he was disgusting.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
And and him in real life, I don't know if
you know, it is the nicest.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
It's always sweet.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
I was like, what, No, he played this out of
that role.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Because he's also like a very handsome kind Yes, I've
heard so many nice things about him, but not in
this show.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Not in this show. I was, Uh.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
We were talking about water cooler, So when you're an actor,
you don't have a water cooler.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
You have the cast chairs in between in between.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Let oh yeah, So Leanne Rhymes and I were talking
about it, she's so great, and we started talking about it,
and it was like, uh, I think that we had
only like dipped our toes in. It was only like
I think we both watched like one, one or two
episodes and and we were just talking about it like yeah,
you started it, blah blah blah blah, and we had
(26:03):
we had recently exchanged numbers because we were texting about
something or whatever, but very casually, like you know, informational
transactional texting. Sure the next day turns into like a mailstrom.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
I was like, what the.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
I mean, Like, it was so funny and it came
out of nowhere, and it was like I adore her,
And with the people that I usually end up becoming
close to, it's like the conver Camilla and I always say,
we literally never say hello or goodbye to each other.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
We just started whatever we've got to say. I love
that that texting.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Was like that, But I have to say, out of
all the moments, I don't know what.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
This says about me.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Might not be a good thing and might get edited out,
but I'm not sure we'll see the most shocking thing
to me, the thing that I was.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Like, what just happened?
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Wait?
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Wait?
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Can I guess? Can I guess before you say it,
is it when Callie and the sheriff are in bed?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Well, well, I mean, okay, that would be the most obvious.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
To be honest, my brain didn't.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
I feel like this is not gonna be an obvious one.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
I went after that scene, I literally like like like
I don't know what sex is?
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Was like, what just happened? Oh? What just happened? I
don't have that move?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
What's that move?
Speaker 4 (27:23):
That's a move that's not I know that was on
a menu?
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
So I know that the series is based on a book,
do you I haven't read the book.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Do you know how closely it follows the book?
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Not super close. There's definitely more more juice, and my
my character is a little more flushed out in the
show than in the book, So it's not completely but mostly.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Okay, yeah, okay, At what point did you know like,
oh shit, this show just like hit big, Like what
was that point, because like you said, like it was
going to go to maybe a different network or studio
or whatever. And then and then at what point you
guys want a group text all of you and you're like,
oh my god.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
Yeah, like when we were told, oh, it's going to Netflix.
I was like, okay, cool, but you know, like to
cut through four hundred five hundred shows on Netflix, get
out of here like it is. And I thought, oh, gosh,
it's a summer release, like who knows, but maybe it
could be a good thing because people are just at
home chilling or like, you know, just wanting something mindless.
But it wasn't until like we started getting like notifications
(28:30):
that like, oh, it's been you know, number three and
number two and then number one for a couple of
weeks and that's sort of like the barometer on Netflix now.
But yeah, and then we saw like the minutes that
it was being watched, and then all the people who
were talking about it. We were like, oh, it's the
topic people.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Yeah, it's the talk because shows that at number one
and they're like, you know, they're number one Netflix or
a few weeks.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
This was like, but but yeah, you might not know
about it.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
No, I'm not crazy. This is what happened in my household.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
I sat down, I saw the show was on, like
I don't know, in the top ten somewhere.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Newly released, and I had I was on a group
text with.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
My mom friends and I was like, do you guys,
An'll want to start the Hunting Wives together tonight and
then like a book club and they're like yeah, And
then everyone was like, I'm not sleeping, I'm binge watching
this thing until like two am. Everyone's exhausted, everyone's losing.
They're like, I can't stop.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
So you need a closure, you need closure?
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Yeah, yeah you do. You do need closure?
Speaker 2 (29:29):
You do you need closure?
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (29:30):
I felt about it too.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
And then also when I just came from Nashville here
and usually it's oh my gosh, it's Kate Gearson, you know, yeah,
oh yeah, and this time it was your star, right,
your Star Jackson, and I'm like, oh, yes, like it
hasn't Oh my god, that's so aliborated yet.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Okay, so this is this is I was gonna say,
this is the segue.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
What you're saying. I cannot imagine.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
I cannot imagine anyone coming up to me and not saying, Arizona.
I don't know how you feel about it, but I
feel so When people ask me about that in general,
I'm always like I always feel I really do, even
if I like, this is what those moments where you
actually really don't want anyone to talk to you or
whatever whatever is grateful that like that character meant some
(30:18):
kind of thing and I can't control where I am
or what's happening, and neither can someone else, And if
this is their moment to have a moment, then I'm
always like, okay, great, And so I actually feel like
I if that were to happen to me, I don't
know how you felt. I almost feel like I'd be split.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
I was. I was like, oh, so this is us.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
You don't like Kate, Like, yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
I mean territorial over this person. Yes, like, oh gosh, Chrissy,
get it together. But it's true because that role obviously
changed my life completely and it means still means so
much to me and to so many people. So yeah,
it is a weird thing because I'm like, but then
I have to remember, like, oh, what a gift to
(30:57):
be able to like reach different numbers.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, no, I think it's I think
it's phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
And what a totally different show.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
I mean, bravo, because you do you hope that like
the next project after is going to be different.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Now you just knocked it out of the park.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
So a sad star.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Let's talk about.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
This, which is when you were done with This is Us?
Were you purposeful?
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Did you have like a did you have an idea?
Did you have a plan? Did you get strategic? Did
you get go with the flow?
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Were you like I don't know what I'm going to
do next, or I really do know what I want
to do next.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
I mean, I always wanted to do comedy, right Like
I I was like, I want to be on SNL.
I want to be the female Jim Carrey like that
that I was the entertaining you know, like class clown
and growing up and stuff like that. And then I'm
not sure how I got to be the woman who
cries a lot. And I don't mind because it's very
cathartic for me, and I love to cry and I
(31:54):
have a lot of issues, so it's good. But it's
an empathy. I have a lot of empathy. But I
don't even think that I was strategic at all. Like
I had been going back and forth from here to
Nashville to songwrite music and country music, and so I
really also music was my first love, so I wanted
to do that and pursue that. But I still didn't
(32:17):
feel like I was lucky enough to be like, Okay,
I'm only going I did this, and only when I
did that. I want. Yeah, there's projects that come around
that I am right for and I feel like, you know,
draw like I want to do it for some reason whatever.
I'm like, oh, I want to do it. But now
(32:37):
I certainly did not have a strategy. I was just like,
hopefully people still want to see me act, you know,
because this was my first job I ever tested for.
It was and I was like, am I going to
be a one note actress? Like maybe I'm only going
to be this girl? Like I don't know, So no strategy,
just by the grace of God. Yeah, I was like,
(32:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
I think it's I mean, I think it's really hard
to have strategy now as well. We're not talking about
the times when like there were five hundred pilots and
you could be choosy.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
It doesn't feel like we get to do that anymore.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
Yeah, five hundred pilots and like one hundred actors. Now
it's five thousand actors and ten pilots. Cool. Cool, Yeah,
and you know it's you know, I get it. And
also because so many of the big movie stars are
coming to TV and stream I know that it's like,
well what about you know, people were on television and
(33:31):
you know, it's a hard thing because it elevates things
and you could, you know, work with film actors on
streaming movies that you might not have ever worked with.
So like, there's always pros and cons, but it is
certainly more. I don't want to say competitive because it
means that there's like a comparison because no actor you
can compare to anyone else. But it feels like it's.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
A little there's less opportunity.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
There's there you go, less opportunity for sure, the less opportunity,
especially now, you know, just still recovering from the strike.
And then I mean that's why I don't live in
LA because I haven't worked in four years in La.
Everything else that I've done has been everywhere else in La. Yeah,
So I'm like, why do I want to stay in
this traffic. I don't have to stay in the traffic.
(34:15):
You know, I can't tell you how much I've been
in my car, like half the time that I've been here.
And I don't miss thing about Nashville. She is so convenient.
She is really convenient.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
She is she is, yeah, but I like her.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I like her a lot.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Oh, good Christie, everything you were saying I really really
identified with. I was always trying to make light of
life that was sort of a little bit challenging in
my younger years. And so I too, always felt a
draw to comedy and I never got well, I did
a bunch of pilots, but they never went and the
(34:51):
jobs that I'm known for, i'll, i'll, I do quite
a bit of crying.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
Yeah, I have to believe that. Like, as we all know,
comedy comes from tragedy, right, It's not not everybody can
be funny and dramatic. Usually people are just sort of
dramatic and not always funny.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
So I'm just saying I was.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Gonna say, so we're special.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
You got it all ground, We're special. So but yeah,
I mean that's what we do, right, Like we laugh
so we don't.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Cry, So that is definitely true. And sometimes we cry
so hard. Were we laugh so hard that we'd cry?
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (35:23):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
So I'm actually.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Really interested in this piece, which is your songwriting.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
How does that start? Is that journaling? And then do
you hear a melody? Is that?
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Like? How how did songwriting and music start in your life?
Speaker 5 (35:40):
So I grew up in Ginesville, Florida, and my mom
was a single mom when I was starting middle school
and all the cool cute girls were in band playing
the piccolo and the flute to the clarinet, and all
that was left was the bar toone. And I was like,
I'm not going to be the chubby girl playing this
big old mini tuba. I ain't doing it. And my
Mom's like, well, good, because I can't afford to rent
it or by it, so sorry. So I joined choir.
(36:02):
So I joined whir, and I was like, oh, okay, good,
I can like sort of be one of money but
still be part of something cool. And then I really
music has always been in our lives and always listen
to all sorts of eclectic you know, genres and bands,
and but it wasn't really until choir that I was like, oh,
I love to sing. And it became sort of through
(36:23):
my journaling and through my like poetry, you know, because
I had a tumultuous childhood, like it definitely was helpful
and music was so healing for me.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
We're recruiting you to be in this movie that we're
gonna make, Christy, You'll get it.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
We'll have more people call your people.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
You're gona get it all Christy. Can I pitch it
to you?
Speaker 4 (36:54):
Yes? Okay.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
So we just talked about this in the podcast, and
Jessica and I have been sidebarring now for the past
week being like, no, this.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Is howes okay?
Speaker 3 (37:02):
So in voice notes, yeah, so we had this movie
idea and I'm like, oh my god, she's got to
do it with us. Where we are I've been sucked
into rush talk.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Do you know what that is?
Speaker 1 (37:14):
No?
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Okay, it's Surety rush.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
I'm obsessed. So sorry. I didn't realize that was the
Bama Rush.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Have you heard of Bama Rush?
Speaker 5 (37:24):
I've watched. I'm here, Okay, I'm here, I'm here.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
She then she then I know it.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
I know you want to be like brides Wars, but
like because you know, there's rush coaches and then the
moms get involved, oh competitive, like trying to get our
daughters into sorties.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
No, this is what the movie is going to be.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
But but tell her, tell well, we're it's still lessen
we have we got we.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Could, we could be competing rush coaches, right, they want
to get our dows and it's very funny or or
or we're moms that got pregnant very young, Christy, very young.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Very very tiny, tiny.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Yes, And the only reason we're friends is because it's
because I got held back a lot.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Of greats and we were pregnant. We got we were pregnant.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Rushing back in the day and they were like, no,
you have big pregnant bellies. And now we're seeking revenge
back on that sorty by rushing our own daughters.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
It's like miscongeniality brides Wars.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Meets did you ever watch Drop Dead Gorgeous? How did
you ever see that movie?
Speaker 5 (38:25):
Oh? Yes, oh yeah, yes.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Listen, we'll sidebar with you, Christy, Christy, don't worry. We're
gonna exchange numbers, and you're in.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
I'm in because I I literally can just see it now.
And I don't know if you know, because there's like
another like underlying like secret society.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Yeah, like wait, I don't know if I've reached that
part where what's that part?
Speaker 5 (38:48):
Well, supposedly within particular Greek life and particular campuses. Okay,
I think it's especially for the South. Okay, I don't
want to name colleges, but they have like sort of
this like every there's a representative from each for turning
in sorority, and they come together and they're the ones
(39:10):
that really run the campus. Forget the campus government, honey.
They're the ones that are like, oh no, we're doing this,
and we're doing that, and we're doing that. And they're
the ones that, like, are the government the underground government
of these.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Schools, secret society, underground government society.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yes, this is like skeleton key stuff.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
Yeah, yes, that's exactly what it is. But like, but
like I think, real.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Oh my god, I'm obsessed.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
I know.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
I also just.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Love a good conspiracy theory. You guys, Uska knows this.
I love aliens, Christy. I can't wait to meet one.
I'm very excited about it.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
Listen, I'm like, what if we're aliens in the future
trying to connect with ourselves right now in the present
to say, hey, hey, don't mess things up, because this
is what it could be.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
I've seen that documentary. There's a documentary on Netflix. It
talks about that. Yeah, that the aliens are actually future
humans and they know that.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Christie.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Wait, sorry, I know this has nothing to do with
hunting wise, but let's talk about it.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
Who care?
Speaker 3 (40:09):
They believe it because of the way that we have
adapted from eights right, like our revolutionary like the way
our eyes have moved and everything they're saying, if you
fast forward like thousands of years, will end up looking
like aliens, looking like graysh evolution.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, only.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
Like these are the things that like I want to
know but don't want to know, you know, ye yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
Yeah, okay, blinders, yeah, okay.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
Appearance is blissed sometimes.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
But well, Christy, you're in you're into the rush war
movie that we're doing.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
Yes, if you want me to be the if you
want me to be the crafty woman, no.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
No, no, no no no no no, no no no. I
think you need to be like a rush coach with us.
That's like we're going where.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
I would love that.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Oh my god, I saar. We make ourselves pee laughing
with these voice.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
Notes because I can't imagine we're pitching constantly.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
You're going to be on the text.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Chain and then and then and then oh we can't
the T shirt should be and then no.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
It's it's really wild when you see these girls do
these like fit for the day and they're like Cardier
bracelets and David German bracelets, these like golden goose shoes,
like you have a twenty thousand dollars to go to
a math class?
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Like what?
Speaker 5 (41:22):
And then the videos that they do with each other,
and they're so competitive.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
With like and the balloons. Did you see the balloon
decor that they've just done?
Speaker 5 (41:28):
Who is doing this? Marches? Are we doing them? Are
we competing blue arches?
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Like?
Speaker 5 (41:33):
It's just insane?
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Yeah, yeah, there's so much but aren't we right, there's
so much material there for it's begging for like a
two thousand's comedy movie.
Speaker 5 (41:45):
Maybe the villain is really like Alison Janney, who's the president.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
Of the Yeah, oh, the Secret Society.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Yes, yes, yes, you know, Okay, okay, all right, all right,
right christ you're gonna sidebar already stealing everything?
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Oh no, I know of the video.
Speaker 5 (42:03):
If someone is writing this right now, we've already copied written.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
We did it by doing this, by doing this, this
is our ip.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
So that's it, all right, Chrissy, Thank you so much
for joining this.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
So much fun.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Gosh, I love it when I love it when you
get a friend out of a job.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
It's amazing.
Speaker 4 (42:19):
We're friends.
Speaker 5 (42:20):
Just so you know, we're so happy that this is
the way we ran into each other. And literally you're
down the street and you know, let a sister know
if I if I need to get my southern accent
back on.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
So yeah, you do, Yes, you do, Yes, you do, Yes,
you do.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
I know everybody I am.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
I'm sure you've already watched and binge watched The Hunting Wives,
And if you haven't, go to Netflix right now.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Please yes, but also check out your new Children's Big Feelings, yeah,
Ifi or wherever you get your music Apple, all.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Of the.
Speaker 5 (42:53):
Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
Okay, Well, I can't wait to run into you. See
we're gonna make a date.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
Yeah, thank you so much, thank you so much. So
nice to meet you, and nice.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
To meet Okay, thank you.
Speaker 5 (43:08):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
I love her.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
I love her. I love her.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
I didn't expect to not love her. I'm just surprised
by just how very much I loved her.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
She's so funny.
Speaker 4 (43:18):
She's so funny.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
I would cast her in everything, by the way.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
Yeah, like the phone should be bringing off the hook
for her always, Yeah, just like it did for Hunting Wives.
She's so good on that show. The show is so
I mean, I needed that show this summer.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Yeah, so you know what I was confronted with a
little bit in that in this past you know hour,
is that I because I've been traveling so much and
walking by so many different airport newsstands. She's been on
the cover of People magazine, and I've seen her face
a lot. Yeah, and I just wasn't familiar with her
as a person, and I started looking at all the things,
(43:55):
but you know, in preparation of meeting her today, and
I just it's the reminder that these pictures that you
see in magazines and everything, it's just a one dimensional representation.
And when you get the real person and you get
their their personality and their smile, their words and the
way they speak, it just takes on a whole nother thing.
(44:15):
And I don't know, I don't know that I hadn't
necessarily preconceived notions about what she was going to be like,
and she just delighted me with her humor and her
well you know what she is.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
She's one of those people that when you talk to her,
you're like, I've known you forever. Yeah, like we could
go grab a glass of wine right now.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
Yeah, Yeah, for sure, I'm going to.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
Well, I mean, I feel like you're saying that to
make me a little bit jealous. I'm not a little bit, Jessica.
Speaker 4 (44:39):
Stop it.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Okay, I'll bring my iPhone FaceTime okay, just yeah, just
bring your iPad.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
All right, let's call it the end of the episode.
Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington,
an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Well, Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello Call It crew.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
And welcome to another episode of Call It What It Is.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Oh, today we have a very lovely guest named chrisy Metz.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yeah, look at that.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
I kind of rhymed, Yeah, it did.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
She is. I didn't know this. I didn't know that
she was a triple threat. I know, obviously very talented actor.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
I did not know a singer too, and that she
released a children's album that she.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Had a big party and performance at the Grand Ole
Opry here in.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Nashville, Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
And that album is called Big Feelings. And she's also
an author, and of course, I mean, I mean I
was going to say, like, how do we do this?
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Injury?
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I feel like it's it's if you can still call
things this.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
It's the summer runaway hit.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
It's the runaway hit of the summer, right, I mean,
do you feel like everybody's talking about the Hunting Wives?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I know, it's like it's like one of those rare
shows where you're back to like water cooler talk, yes, like,
oh my god, did you just see what happened?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
And everyone's time and it's just exploded.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
So she's on The Hunting Wives right now, which is
streaming on Netflix, and we just figured.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Oh my god, we got to have her on.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
She's also People magazine cover girl, so I mean, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
She's yes, and she did a deep dive on emotional eating,
body image, dating, faith, how all those threads we through
her daily life. She sort of put it all out there,
which I just love. I love people being so open
and vulnerable like that. And I'm just so I'm I
need to pick her brain on all the things, all
(02:00):
the things.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
That's all right, all things, Well, let's talk.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
Hi.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Hello, are you in Nashville right now? Are you?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Where are you?
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I'm in La Oh you are Okay, I'm in Nashville.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Yes, and I mostly live in Nashville, but I didn't
want to time it that the flight that blah blah blah.
Oh yeah yeah they here, okay, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Well when I'm here, I'm because we just started filming,
so I'm sort of.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
New to put This is actually the first podcast that
I'm doing from here.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
So I did a little dress for her, and this
is so fitting because this is now partly your new home.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Yeah, do you are you enjoying the show? Is it?
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Yes? Yes, yes, yes, yes. You know I keep saying.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Because it's so true and it's something that we really
want to talk to you about, because obviously you and
I have it in common, is that when you're on
a show that you spend more than a minute on,
you get to know that show in a way that's
just super familiar and you know how everyone does every thing,
and this is how everything goes.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
And and then when.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
That show's done, you you go onto whatever. I mean,
there's there's that period which I would love to talk
to you about and how you feel about it and
felt about it. But then as far as it goes
for this show, when you start a new thing that
you're like, hmm, you don't get the beginning back again, right,
So you're just starting with all this like fresh yumminess
(03:24):
where you're like, okay, there's two roads, right, like which
way are we going? Because you're setting new you're setting
new pathways, and so I find that very exciting. And
I think putting together teams is so much fun and
just such an opportunity, and so I have I've just
i've also been trying to take everything I've learned from
life in this business and bring.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
All the goodness to the top and put that into it.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
So it's been great and we have a really really
good team and we've been having fun and.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
It's but it's a it's ambitious.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
I mean, this show is well.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
I saw some clips and I think it looks like
there was a tornado coming through, like the sn Amphitheater
are somewhere, and you know, you can't believe everything you
see online, so I'm like, AI, is this real? And
I have PTSD about weather and I was like, well,
they're going to have to talk about tornadoes with Nashville
And then I was like, I don't know, but I
mean it's nine to one one right, so you know
what's going to be I octane intense And I was like,
(04:20):
oh boy, because those kinds of shows are hard for
me to watch. It's like too real.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Yeah, it's a lot, Yeah, it's a lot. Oh.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I feel like every day we're doing an I feel
like I'm on an action movie.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
You are, yeah, Jessica. It reminds me of the ride
at Universal Studios that you go on and they're like,
oh my god, there's an earthquake and there's like water.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I'm like, that is your set?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Yeah, and you know.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
What also to speak to that, Christy, I mean, I'm
learning as I go. Evidently we I say we like
I'm doing it.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
But I'm not the one that's actually doing it.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
But we.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Do a ton of practical stuff as opposed to the AI.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Like like a day.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Where we worked on Sunday and I don't know if
you were in town, but we closed down a bridge
and everybody was talking about it.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
So but we have that's a big deal. That's a
big deal.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
You closed down a bridge on a Sunday? Do you
want to get picked up again? Is better than Monday Duesday?
Speaker 5 (05:15):
Than good as it wasn't football season yet?
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Oh okay, yeah yeah, yeah, that probably couldn't have happened. Yeah,
the riots on the street. But we had a airstream
that had been picked up in aforementioned tornado and then
it had you know, gone up in the air, and
then it had somehow don't ask like really logistical questions
when talk comes to it, sounds like the wide flew
(05:38):
around the sky and somehow it got stuck to the
side of a bridge.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
As you could Christy wait, you talked about PTSD.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Have you been in a tornado?
Speaker 5 (05:48):
So I grew up in Florida, so hurricane central. And
then I also spent a lot of time or nine
years in Japan when I was a kid, so like earthquake,
sunami then and then I moved to La fires, earthquakes,
and then Nashville where tornadoes.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
So I'm like, what, so you've had them all?
Speaker 5 (06:08):
I haven't luckily been through like an actual tornado. It's
been near the house. But like I'm in the closet
with the helmet on, I'm not even playing. I'm not playing.
And I think I'm going to get a safe room
because I.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Can I come over to it.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Okay, I'm going to get your.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
What is your safe room, Jess, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I think I go in the basement.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Don't you go in the basement like Dorothy and the
Wizard of Oz.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
See, some people have basements, but the limestone is so
hard and heavy to get through. So if it's an
older house, which is great, then you probably have a
basement or a safe you know area. But with the
new homes, they don't have those. And so I'm going
to get one put into the garage.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Are in your room, and I'm glad for us.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Yes, I'm not pla.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
There's anything that happens here that's completely foreign to me.
I mean, I guess it did happen in Missouri. But
the sirens, oh, the tornado sirens.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
And you know, the first Saturday of every month it
goes off just for protocol and to make sure it's
working for and gigs. But you you, I end up
doing that in my pants because every time I'm like,
I'm like and then I'm like, Chrissy, it's sunny, Everything's fine.
(07:26):
They're actually really good about like preemptying everybody. And there's
a thing called Nashville Weather Nashville Weather Extreme. I follow
them on all the things social media. Now, I got
to yes, and my boyfriend's always said, Chrissy, and I'm like,
I need to be able hair and he's like, but
you're making yourself crazy. I'm like, you know, it's a
little much, but it sort of helps my anxiety with
(07:47):
it if I'm aware.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yes, I agree.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I just found an app that my girlfriend showed me
that shows you before you get on a flight.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
How about the turbulence is going to be.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
I don't need I don't need that. I don't need that.
I actually you want to know.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I think that if I know, like at thirty minutes
and I'm going to hit a little bumpy bumps, I'm
gonna feel better than just because as soon as he
gets on the mic and he's like, there's gonna be
a little turp, I do a littles on my pants too.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Yeah. Well, you know, there was a scientist who said
that turbulence it's just like if you're on a road
with like a jeep, whatever the tires shock. You know,
it's actually very safe, but it feels terrible you.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Or like a boat on water.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I mean it is, It's just it's just a yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
But this exactly, This.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Is a question that we ask ourselves lots of times.
And I'm curious about this, Christy, because it's defining when
you are feeling the affeared feelings, when you are feeling
a little a little worry creep in a little mindfulness
about this, that or the other.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Do you prefer to know or not know? Like, are
you the one that.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Goes I want to know everything about it so that
I can face it, or are you like you know
what don't need to know in my blinders don't Yeah, blinders.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
I think it's because like if I'm going to have
a surgery, I'm like, don't open your eyes to the
operating room. Right, Yeah, there's things I don't want to see.
But when it comes to like weather, I'm like, Okay,
if I can prepare myself and we can evacuate, if
we can get to the safe we can be like
that is like with an earthquake, you don't have any awareness,
(09:20):
and so then you're just like, why did thirty seconds
of my life feel like? And so I think I
would rather No, I think I would rather know all
the particular I think.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
So yeah, okay, all right, that doesn't have to be
your final answer, but that's your answer for in this.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Okay, we have to hop into what just just and
I dilan trip before you came on and we were
talking about how it really is you're on the show
of the Summer.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
We were saying what we were saying, is it is it?
Does it sound right to be like the.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Breakout Summer runaway hit? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Right? Also, how would you describe it, Chris, because you're
in it right now.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
I specked a little engine that could because it was
going to initially be on somewhere else and then it
got put on Netflix, and so we didn't think, you know,
there were going to be many eyes on it, and
then you know, as we're doing it and all the
ladies are so great and so fun, and you're like, oh,
this is wild. This show is wild.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
It is wild. It's a wild ride.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Yeah, you're reading it and then you're shooting the scenes,
but then you see it all together. Because obviously I
was not in all the wild scenes, at least not
the sexual ones, but it was like, oh, it's a
kind of jarring, and I knew what was coming. So
I was like, oh, people are either going to be
like full throttled into this or like, I don't know.
(10:45):
And some people are like I fast forward through all
this sex stuff and you know, I like the other stuff,
and I'm like, great, there's something for everyone.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
If they're saying that they didn't oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah they really didn't.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
They didn't they all right, yeah at half speed. Well
that's also.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
What's crazy, is like half speed, Like, you know, these
are beautiful women who you know, we've seen and had
great careers, and so it's so interesting, and then so
many people are offended because they're like, you know, why
does it have to be so much sex? And I'm
like and then there's all you know, our runs at
the comments section because I'm.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Like, so interesting or do you read the comments?
Speaker 5 (11:22):
Yeah, because I'm just so interested, Like I never take
anything to heart. Initially in my career, I certainly did.
And now I'm like, I can't attach to the good
or the bad. It just it's their opinion, and I
hope it's good and if it's not, okay.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
I attached to the good and I leave the bad. Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
It's hard to do though.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
It's so hard to do, so I just don't even
read comments.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
No, I don't think I yeah, I don't do it
a lot, but I did for this show only because
I wanted to see, you know, because people liked to
debate at each other in the comments, like this is
so ridiculous, this would never happen, and people are like,
I'm sorry, it's happening at the country club on the
street from my house, and I'm.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Like, what, what so anymore?
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Yeah? And then you know they're potentially doing like the
Hunting Wives reality.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Show what Christy don't even.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
No, I'm not doing it. No, I think they I
think they want people like from Texas, like real text
in women and all of their Scott I'm already obsessed.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, like a Real Housewives exactly.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
But then yes, so you know, I'm as yeah, I'm
sure it will do very well because I think also
with the reality people like to watch it and they're like,
oh they're they're much worse than I am, and you
feel better about yourself or something. There's a way that like, yeah,
it's kind of wild, and then you're like, oh self scripted.
Oh they're actually just acting, and you're like, oh, it's
not reality at all. Okay, cool, but you know, to
(12:49):
each your.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Own, well you said something. That's so I think it's
such a huge.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Piece of of of this show, which is that it
it is an incredibly impressive group of I mean from
Stem to Stern, right, I mean when I want to
watch the first episode.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
And Katie Low's we have shondaland family there.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Yes, that's my girl, Oh my god, she's She's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
But everybody is, I mean everybody is.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
I've known Molin for forever and like I mean watching
the credits and seeing again seeing all those names, just
the entire creative team is they're all just again powerhouses.
And then watching it and I mean, Molin just naked
within four seconds.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Oh oh yeah, she don't play no, like Katie jokes.
Katie's like if I look like that, I would been
naked too.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
I would, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
But when she drops it for the and the tampon
and you're like, oh my gosh, let's just throw.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
It all on there.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yeah, and it's within like, I don't know, that's not.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Like the first ten minutes of the show. Yes, I
was seated listen. I was seated. I was like, you know,
pouring my glass of wine. I'm like, I'm in, Yeah,
she's a girl ne to tampon.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Yeah, where is this spelling? And then why can't why
doesn't you have a tampa? Oh and you can't use
a tampa? Why can't you what? Yeah, It's like a
whole thing, and like that's what we I think. I
mean a part of the reason why we're on this
plane of existence is to commune. And when you have
something that people watch, whether they're privately in their home,
and then you talk about it at the water cooler
or you get on a podcast, It's like it's fun
(14:20):
because you get to share opinions. I'm like, oh my gosh,
can you even And there's something communal about that, and
you know, people love a wild ride, We love being entertained.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yeah, How did you feel because in the show, I'm
imagining that your character was like you have the beginning
where you and Brittany have that moment where it's like, oh, yes,
be friends. But then you do such an incredible job
of playing that god in just your face and just
your expressions and how all of it.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
You're just such a beautiful actress.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I felt absolutely your outsiderness, like You're like, I don't
like I'm.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
By the plant as you got to know them, You're like.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Don't go inside.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
You don't want to insider, stay on the outside.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Yeah, it ain't good in there. There's nothing good in
there for you, I know. And honestly that was hard
because I love all these girls and they are gorgeous
and like, of course they were dressed to the nines,
and so it really helped in my performance. I was like,
you know, I would look at their shoes and their
legs and the way they walked, and I'm like oh,
Star is nothing like these women. And in the subtext,
(15:29):
like I imagine that Jill and Starr were probably friends
in high school. You know, scar Star got divorced and
you know, maybe she put on some weight and she
was a single mom and like, you know, sort of
ostracized and it was like, oh, no, you're not good
enough to be our friend anymore, or you're not going
to have to be my friend anymore, and especially with
the small town kind of girls, and so yeah, I mean,
(15:51):
you guys, I had this wig that I went down
the rabbit hole because I was like, I want something
to be authentic. So I went down to like all
these salons in Tyler, Texas and all these very popular haircuts,
one particular, this bob with bangs, and I convinced everybody, yeah, okay,
let's do that. We cut it. We shot three scenes
and they were like it's too sad.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
They're like, my god, that's amazing.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Literally all the girls, moll and Brittany, Katie, they're like,
we want to cry just looking at you.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Like okay.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
So they were like, yeah, we gotta get rid of
the way.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
You can't do it, you can't do it, can't do it.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Oh we just can't. So it honestly, like it was
hard because the girls are so wonderful, but then the
way that everything is sort of developed, you're like, okay,
I'm going in that and we're not friends. I want
to be your friend, but you know, so it's it's
it's such a weird thing when you're shooting, but you know,
the way they dress star and like obviously your house
(16:50):
and everything comparatively to these women and their lives, it
like really helps to build and switch is great.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
How did you?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I'm so interested, like how did the project land in
your lap?
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Like, tell us about that process?
Speaker 5 (17:04):
Literally. Rebecca Cutter, who is the showrunner writer who also
did High Town, she's awesome. She is like the coolest.
She reached out to my manager and was like, you know,
we have this role that's really sort of this grounding
role in this show of wild women, and we would
love to see if Chrissy was interested, And like, listen,
(17:25):
I come from the world of like please, am I
going to ever have a job again?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yes, but we all do.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Yes, yeah for sure, never gonna work again, never again.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
And then you're like, I want it to be something
I either is going to challenge me or something that's different.
You know, all the stuff there so is blah blah blah,
and you know, for me, I'm like, oh gosh, this
is too controversial, Like I don't know. And I realized,
like art imitating life, like it's it just is what
it is. And some people have a hard time dealing
(17:57):
with that, and I'm like, it, it is what it is.
But I just I could relate to start. I mean,
my mom was a single mom and grew up with money,
and I grew up in the South, and you know,
being a plus sized girl, being just a plus sized
person all my life, Like I know what it's like
(18:17):
to feel like the outcasts or like I'm not in
the pretty girl group or so like I knew that.
And I was like, oh, and like rarely do we
see that woman sort of get to revenge or revenge
or like they speak her mind and stand her ground.
You know, it's usually like she's the pushover, the you know,
just forget it, like whatever, we can bury her. And
(18:42):
I was like, oh, I love that she actually confronts
Jill and she's like, yeah, we're not. I'm not just
gonna roll over and let you guys do that. Get
away with it, So I appreciated that. So yeah, I
was just I was grateful.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
How much of the series did you get given before?
Did you get the pilot? What did what you told
like pitch like the whole ark of the character?
Speaker 5 (19:16):
Yeah, essentially most of what was going to happen, okay.
And it's funny because running to the comment section, everyone's like,
I need to know what the conversation was between Star
and Jail when she got into the house with that shotgun.
People are shouting at like justice for sure. I was like,
were abby, you know, and like so it's nice to
(19:39):
play the roles that people are like, oh there's redemption.
They're they're good people, like even if they do bad
things like wanting to like assault someone with the rifle,
but you know, avenge their daughter.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
But nothing better than you getting that thing out of
the trunk and that does the unmistakableok.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Was like we were watching it together because I didn't
tell him any details, and when it when it caught
the shotgun, he goes, Okay, Yeah, I was even and
even like all the sort of the scene where I
pushed Katie Low's Jill, like it was so out of
character for me. I was like, Katie, I'm twice your size,
(20:17):
if not more. You're a little baby girl. I don't
want to hurt you, girl, please, And you know, Katie
is just like.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
In for she's in yeast.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
She's like and so you know, we work with the
stunt coordinator to make it look. You know, obviously you
guys know all the stuff. But I was like, oh gosh,
I don't really cuss that people, and I certainly don't
get angry. And so it was cathartic because I'm sure
stuff that need to come out, but by all my family,
because I don't ever bark back. I'm the middle child,
I'm the diplomat. Everyone's like, oh oh, so my brother
(20:48):
in law was like, I'm not messing with you, Christy,
and I was like, you go, but that that you
know where there's we don't know. And then poor stars
on the ground spoiler alert in the kitchen, and you know,
people are like, can it just be a flash wound?
Can you come back? And they're you know, I'm like,
(21:10):
you never know, you never know. But I think that
Star knew something that nobody else knew. And do you
remember when Jill was scrubbing off her car, she erased
the GPS information. Yeah, I'm like, and remember Abby was
limping through the woods. I think Jill went after her,
accidentally hit her, freaked herself out left, and somehow Star
knew that, and so that's why Star was like, hold on,
(21:33):
that's my.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Thought, like the conspiracy.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
Yeah right, so I'm like.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
You're starting Reddit threads right now, Chrissy, you're starting reddit
thread Yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
We need a flash vaccine, we need the particulars. So anyway,
but yeah, it was like.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Is this show open for a season two?
Speaker 5 (21:50):
I think so?
Speaker 3 (21:51):
I mean, of course, it's such a huge hit, like
they yeah at the end.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
I mean, I mean, I guess they always figure it
out where to pick up from.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
There, right listen, if there's money around, I know.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Yeah, they'll figure it. Yeah, they'll figure it out.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
Yeah, they'll figure it out. But I don't know. It's
also kind of one of those things where like do
they want to do a second season? But I think
people would be on on the ride. I think people
are like, oh yeah, what else.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Oh well, they certainly got on it this summer. So
you said something and I actually had. I think it's
the thing that I can't quite so watch me bumble
through this it's I can't quite formulate my question, but
maybe you'll help me. Is that you said it's controversial. Yeah, yes,
the show is controversial from where I sit with my perspective,
with the way that I see the world, the show
(22:38):
is controversial. But as you mentioned earlier, there are some
people in the comments that are like, yeah, that's my life. Yes,
and I think it's my I guess maybe there isn't
a question here. Maybe it's that my I think maybe
one of the reasons that it it has really, you know,
just compelled so many people is because of that, like
(22:59):
there's something in it for everyone, whether you're in line
with the beliefs and stories that are being put forward,
or if you're like, oh no, there's something in it
for everyone, or.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
You're like, oh, I don't know what I would have
done in that situation. Maybe I would have done with
Margot or Sophie did, or Callie did, Like I think
that's what art and whatever level you want to, you know,
put it in or box you want to put it in.
It's like it's supposed to sort of make you question
yourself or your perspective, or your beliefs or your morals,
(23:32):
your standards, your values, and then you're like, oh, I'm
really no better than anybody else because I might have
picked up a shotgun and threatened someone, or you know,
or if the beautiful woman's making advances at me. Like
poor Sophie, who was like this just like a you know,
a little crumble of a woman, felt like no. I
mean for me, I just was like, oh god, this
(23:53):
woman is so broken, and you know, she's not on
the same page as her own husband and God blessed,
but like, you know, and she gets his attention from
this wonderful, like badass woman and you're like, oh gosh,
I mean, he.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Did a really good job of being like not he
was like there was nothing wrong with him.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
I know, there was like nothing right.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
You're like, yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
I know, he's so great, I know. And you just
have to I always try to like sympathize with each character.
Like you know, poor Margo, her entire life, all she
had to do was like scratch claw and fight her
way through. Oh my god, she just to put food
on the table. I mean, yeah, you literally stole a
man's truck to like pay rent because her mom couldn't,
you know, Like, but you know why these people have
(24:37):
become this way, not that we justify it, not that
like we could go to therapy, but like do your work.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
You do your work, do your work.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
Your stuff shouldn't be someone else's stuff. But you can
also like understand like oh gosh, like all right, you know,
maybe she's doing the best she can and then she
gets in this situation with Jed who when he slaps her.
I thought out of the seat like that, and I knew,
you know, but I.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Oh, with all the respect to Dermot mulrooney, clearly he
did a good job because I'm going to say this,
he was disgusting.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Yeah, he was disgusting.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
And and him in real life, I don't know if
you know, it is the nicest.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
It's always sweet.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
I was like, what, No, he played this out of
that role.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Because he's also like a very handsome kind Yes, I've
heard so many nice things about him, but not in
this show.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Not in this show. I was, Uh.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
We were talking about water cooler, So when you're an actor,
you don't have a water cooler.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
You have the cast chairs in between in between.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Let oh yeah, So Leanne Rhymes and I were talking
about it, she's so great, and we started talking about it,
and it was like, uh, I think that we had
only like dipped our toes in. It was only like
I think we both watched like one, one or two
episodes and and we were just talking about it like yeah,
you started it, blah blah blah blah, and we had
(26:03):
we had recently exchanged numbers because we were texting about
something or whatever, but very casually, like you know, informational
transactional texting. Sure the next day turns into like a mailstrom.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
I was like, what the.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
I mean, Like, it was so funny and it came
out of nowhere, and it was like I adore her,
And with the people that I usually end up becoming
close to, it's like the conver Camilla and I always say,
we literally never say hello or goodbye to each other.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
We just started whatever we've got to say. I love
that that texting.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Was like that, But I have to say, out of
all the moments, I don't know what.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
This says about me.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Might not be a good thing and might get edited out,
but I'm not sure we'll see the most shocking thing
to me, the thing that I was.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Like, what just happened?
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Wait?
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Wait?
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Can I guess? Can I guess before you say it,
is it when Callie and the sheriff are in bed?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Well, well, I mean, okay, that would be the most obvious.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
To be honest, my brain didn't.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
I feel like this is not gonna be an obvious one.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
I went after that scene, I literally like like like
I don't know what sex is?
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Was like, what just happened? Oh? What just happened? I
don't have that move?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
What's that move?
Speaker 4 (27:23):
That's a move that's not I know that was on
a menu?
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
So I know that the series is based on a book,
do you I haven't read the book.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Do you know how closely it follows the book?
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Not super close. There's definitely more more juice, and my
my character is a little more flushed out in the
show than in the book, So it's not completely but mostly.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Okay, yeah, okay, At what point did you know like,
oh shit, this show just like hit big, Like what
was that point, because like you said, like it was
going to go to maybe a different network or studio
or whatever. And then and then at what point you
guys want a group text all of you and you're like,
oh my god.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
Yeah, like when we were told, oh, it's going to Netflix.
I was like, okay, cool, but you know, like to
cut through four hundred five hundred shows on Netflix, get
out of here like it is. And I thought, oh, gosh,
it's a summer release, like who knows, but maybe it
could be a good thing because people are just at
home chilling or like, you know, just wanting something mindless.
But it wasn't until like we started getting like notifications
(28:30):
that like, oh, it's been you know, number three and
number two and then number one for a couple of
weeks and that's sort of like the barometer on Netflix now.
But yeah, and then we saw like the minutes that
it was being watched, and then all the people who
were talking about it. We were like, oh, it's the
topic people.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Yeah, it's the talk because shows that at number one
and they're like, you know, they're number one Netflix or
a few weeks.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
This was like, but but yeah, you might not know
about it.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
No, I'm not crazy. This is what happened in my household.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
I sat down, I saw the show was on, like
I don't know, in the top ten somewhere.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Newly released, and I had I was on a group
text with.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
My mom friends and I was like, do you guys,
An'll want to start the Hunting Wives together tonight and
then like a book club and they're like yeah, And
then everyone was like, I'm not sleeping, I'm binge watching
this thing until like two am. Everyone's exhausted, everyone's losing.
They're like, I can't stop.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
So you need a closure, you need closure?
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Yeah, yeah you do. You do need closure?
Speaker 2 (29:29):
You do you need closure?
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (29:30):
I felt about it too.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
And then also when I just came from Nashville here
and usually it's oh my gosh, it's Kate Gearson, you know, yeah,
oh yeah, and this time it was your star, right,
your Star Jackson, and I'm like, oh, yes, like it
hasn't Oh my god, that's so aliborated yet.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Okay, so this is this is I was gonna say,
this is the segue.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
What you're saying. I cannot imagine.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
I cannot imagine anyone coming up to me and not saying, Arizona.
I don't know how you feel about it, but I
feel so When people ask me about that in general,
I'm always like I always feel I really do, even
if I like, this is what those moments where you
actually really don't want anyone to talk to you or
whatever whatever is grateful that like that character meant some
(30:18):
kind of thing and I can't control where I am
or what's happening, and neither can someone else, And if
this is their moment to have a moment, then I'm
always like, okay, great, And so I actually feel like
I if that were to happen to me, I don't
know how you felt. I almost feel like I'd be split.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
I was. I was like, oh, so this is us.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
You don't like Kate, Like, yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
I mean territorial over this person. Yes, like, oh gosh, Chrissy,
get it together. But it's true because that role obviously
changed my life completely and it means still means so
much to me and to so many people. So yeah,
it is a weird thing because I'm like, but then
I have to remember, like, oh, what a gift to
(30:57):
be able to like reach different numbers.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, no, I think it's I think
it's phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
And what a totally different show.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
I mean, bravo, because you do you hope that like
the next project after is going to be different.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Now you just knocked it out of the park.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
So a sad star.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Let's talk about.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
This, which is when you were done with This is Us?
Were you purposeful?
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Did you have like a did you have an idea?
Did you have a plan? Did you get strategic? Did
you get go with the flow?
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Were you like I don't know what I'm going to
do next, or I really do know what I want
to do next.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
I mean, I always wanted to do comedy, right Like
I I was like, I want to be on SNL.
I want to be the female Jim Carrey like that
that I was the entertaining you know, like class clown
and growing up and stuff like that. And then I'm
not sure how I got to be the woman who
cries a lot. And I don't mind because it's very
cathartic for me, and I love to cry and I
(31:54):
have a lot of issues, so it's good. But it's
an empathy. I have a lot of empathy. But I
don't even think that I was strategic at all. Like
I had been going back and forth from here to
Nashville to songwrite music and country music, and so I
really also music was my first love, so I wanted
to do that and pursue that. But I still didn't
(32:17):
feel like I was lucky enough to be like, Okay,
I'm only going I did this, and only when I
did that. I want. Yeah, there's projects that come around
that I am right for and I feel like, you know,
draw like I want to do it for some reason whatever.
I'm like, oh, I want to do it. But now
(32:37):
I certainly did not have a strategy. I was just like,
hopefully people still want to see me act, you know,
because this was my first job I ever tested for.
It was and I was like, am I going to
be a one note actress? Like maybe I'm only going
to be this girl? Like I don't know, So no strategy,
just by the grace of God. Yeah, I was like,
(32:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
I think it's I mean, I think it's really hard
to have strategy now as well. We're not talking about
the times when like there were five hundred pilots and
you could be choosy.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
It doesn't feel like we get to do that anymore.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
Yeah, five hundred pilots and like one hundred actors. Now
it's five thousand actors and ten pilots. Cool. Cool, Yeah,
and you know it's you know, I get it. And
also because so many of the big movie stars are
coming to TV and stream I know that it's like,
well what about you know, people were on television and
(33:31):
you know, it's a hard thing because it elevates things
and you could, you know, work with film actors on
streaming movies that you might not have ever worked with.
So like, there's always pros and cons, but it is
certainly more. I don't want to say competitive because it
means that there's like a comparison because no actor you
can compare to anyone else. But it feels like it's.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
A little there's less opportunity.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
There's there you go, less opportunity for sure, the less opportunity,
especially now, you know, just still recovering from the strike.
And then I mean that's why I don't live in
LA because I haven't worked in four years in La.
Everything else that I've done has been everywhere else in La. Yeah,
So I'm like, why do I want to stay in
this traffic. I don't have to stay in the traffic.
(34:15):
You know, I can't tell you how much I've been
in my car, like half the time that I've been here.
And I don't miss thing about Nashville. She is so convenient.
She is really convenient.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
She is she is, yeah, but I like her.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I like her a lot.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Oh, good Christie, everything you were saying I really really
identified with. I was always trying to make light of
life that was sort of a little bit challenging in
my younger years. And so I too, always felt a
draw to comedy and I never got well, I did
a bunch of pilots, but they never went and the
(34:51):
jobs that I'm known for, i'll, i'll, I do quite
a bit of crying.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
Yeah, I have to believe that. Like, as we all know,
comedy comes from tragedy, right, It's not not everybody can
be funny and dramatic. Usually people are just sort of
dramatic and not always funny.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
So I'm just saying I was.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Gonna say, so we're special.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
You got it all ground, We're special. So but yeah,
I mean that's what we do, right, Like we laugh
so we don't.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Cry, So that is definitely true. And sometimes we cry
so hard. Were we laugh so hard that we'd cry?
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (35:23):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
So I'm actually.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Really interested in this piece, which is your songwriting.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
How does that start? Is that journaling? And then do
you hear a melody? Is that?
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Like? How how did songwriting and music start in your life?
Speaker 5 (35:40):
So I grew up in Ginesville, Florida, and my mom
was a single mom when I was starting middle school
and all the cool cute girls were in band playing
the piccolo and the flute to the clarinet, and all
that was left was the bar toone. And I was like,
I'm not going to be the chubby girl playing this
big old mini tuba. I ain't doing it. And my
Mom's like, well, good, because I can't afford to rent
it or by it, so sorry. So I joined choir.
(36:02):
So I joined whir, and I was like, oh, okay, good,
I can like sort of be one of money but
still be part of something cool. And then I really
music has always been in our lives and always listen
to all sorts of eclectic you know, genres and bands,
and but it wasn't really until choir that I was like, oh,
I love to sing. And it became sort of through
(36:23):
my journaling and through my like poetry, you know, because
I had a tumultuous childhood, like it definitely was helpful
and music was so healing for me.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
We're recruiting you to be in this movie that we're
gonna make, Christy, You'll get it.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
We'll have more people call your people.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
You're gona get it all Christy. Can I pitch it
to you?
Speaker 4 (36:54):
Yes? Okay.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
So we just talked about this in the podcast, and
Jessica and I have been sidebarring now for the past
week being like, no, this.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Is howes okay?
Speaker 3 (37:02):
So in voice notes, yeah, so we had this movie
idea and I'm like, oh my god, she's got to
do it with us. Where we are I've been sucked
into rush talk.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Do you know what that is?
Speaker 1 (37:14):
No?
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Okay, it's Surety rush.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
I'm obsessed. So sorry. I didn't realize that was the
Bama Rush.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Have you heard of Bama Rush?
Speaker 5 (37:24):
I've watched. I'm here, Okay, I'm here, I'm here.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
She then she then I know it.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
I know you want to be like brides Wars, but
like because you know, there's rush coaches and then the
moms get involved, oh competitive, like trying to get our
daughters into sorties.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
No, this is what the movie is going to be.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
But but tell her, tell well, we're it's still lessen
we have we got we.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Could, we could be competing rush coaches, right, they want
to get our dows and it's very funny or or
or we're moms that got pregnant very young, Christy, very young.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Very very tiny, tiny.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Yes, And the only reason we're friends is because it's
because I got held back a lot.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Of greats and we were pregnant. We got we were pregnant.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Rushing back in the day and they were like, no,
you have big pregnant bellies. And now we're seeking revenge
back on that sorty by rushing our own daughters.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
It's like miscongeniality brides Wars.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Meets did you ever watch Drop Dead Gorgeous? How did
you ever see that movie?
Speaker 5 (38:25):
Oh? Yes, oh yeah, yes.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Listen, we'll sidebar with you, Christy, Christy, don't worry. We're
gonna exchange numbers, and you're in.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
I'm in because I I literally can just see it now.
And I don't know if you know, because there's like
another like underlying like secret society.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Yeah, like wait, I don't know if I've reached that
part where what's that part?
Speaker 5 (38:48):
Well, supposedly within particular Greek life and particular campuses. Okay,
I think it's especially for the South. Okay, I don't
want to name colleges, but they have like sort of
this like every there's a representative from each for turning
in sorority, and they come together and they're the ones
(39:10):
that really run the campus. Forget the campus government, honey.
They're the ones that are like, oh no, we're doing this,
and we're doing that, and we're doing that. And they're
the ones that, like, are the government the underground government
of these.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Schools, secret society, underground government society.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yes, this is like skeleton key stuff.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
Yeah, yes, that's exactly what it is. But like, but
like I think, real.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Oh my god, I'm obsessed.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
I know.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
I also just.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Love a good conspiracy theory. You guys, Uska knows this.
I love aliens, Christy. I can't wait to meet one.
I'm very excited about it.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
Listen, I'm like, what if we're aliens in the future
trying to connect with ourselves right now in the present
to say, hey, hey, don't mess things up, because this
is what it could be.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
I've seen that documentary. There's a documentary on Netflix. It
talks about that. Yeah, that the aliens are actually future
humans and they know that.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Christie.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Wait, sorry, I know this has nothing to do with
hunting wise, but let's talk about it.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
Who care?
Speaker 3 (40:09):
They believe it because of the way that we have
adapted from eights right, like our revolutionary like the way
our eyes have moved and everything they're saying, if you
fast forward like thousands of years, will end up looking
like aliens, looking like graysh evolution.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, only.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
Like these are the things that like I want to
know but don't want to know, you know, ye yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
Yeah, okay, blinders, yeah, okay.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
Appearance is blissed sometimes.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
But well, Christy, you're in you're into the rush war
movie that we're doing.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
Yes, if you want me to be the if you
want me to be the crafty woman, no.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
No, no, no no no no no, no no no. I
think you need to be like a rush coach with us.
That's like we're going where.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
I would love that.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Oh my god, I saar. We make ourselves pee laughing
with these voice.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
Notes because I can't imagine we're pitching constantly.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
You're going to be on the text.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Chain and then and then and then oh we can't
the T shirt should be and then no.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
It's it's really wild when you see these girls do
these like fit for the day and they're like Cardier
bracelets and David German bracelets, these like golden goose shoes,
like you have a twenty thousand dollars to go to
a math class?
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Like what?
Speaker 5 (41:22):
And then the videos that they do with each other,
and they're so competitive.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
With like and the balloons. Did you see the balloon
decor that they've just done?
Speaker 5 (41:28):
Who is doing this? Marches? Are we doing them? Are
we competing blue arches?
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Like?
Speaker 5 (41:33):
It's just insane?
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Yeah, yeah, there's so much but aren't we right, there's
so much material there for it's begging for like a
two thousand's comedy movie.
Speaker 5 (41:45):
Maybe the villain is really like Alison Janney, who's the president.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
Of the Yeah, oh, the Secret Society.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Yes, yes, yes, you know, Okay, okay, all right, all right,
right christ you're gonna sidebar already stealing everything?
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Oh no, I know of the video.
Speaker 5 (42:03):
If someone is writing this right now, we've already copied written.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
We did it by doing this, by doing this, this
is our ip.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
So that's it, all right, Chrissy, Thank you so much
for joining this.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
So much fun.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Gosh, I love it when I love it when you
get a friend out of a job.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
It's amazing.
Speaker 4 (42:19):
We're friends.
Speaker 5 (42:20):
Just so you know, we're so happy that this is
the way we ran into each other. And literally you're
down the street and you know, let a sister know
if I if I need to get my southern accent
back on.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
So yeah, you do, Yes, you do, Yes, you do, Yes,
you do.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
I know everybody I am.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
I'm sure you've already watched and binge watched The Hunting Wives,
And if you haven't, go to Netflix right now.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Please yes, but also check out your new Children's Big Feelings, yeah,
Ifi or wherever you get your music Apple, all.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Of the.
Speaker 5 (42:53):
Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
Okay, Well, I can't wait to run into you. See
we're gonna make a date.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
Yeah, thank you so much, thank you so much. So
nice to meet you, and nice.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
To meet Okay, thank you.
Speaker 5 (43:08):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
I love her.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
I love her. I love her.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
I didn't expect to not love her. I'm just surprised
by just how very much I loved her.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
She's so funny.
Speaker 4 (43:18):
She's so funny.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
I would cast her in everything, by the way.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
Yeah, like the phone should be bringing off the hook
for her always, Yeah, just like it did for Hunting Wives.
She's so good on that show. The show is so
I mean, I needed that show this summer.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Yeah, so you know what I was confronted with a
little bit in that in this past you know hour,
is that I because I've been traveling so much and
walking by so many different airport newsstands. She's been on
the cover of People magazine, and I've seen her face
a lot. Yeah, and I just wasn't familiar with her
as a person, and I started looking at all the things,
(43:55):
but you know, in preparation of meeting her today, and
I just it's the reminder that these pictures that you
see in magazines and everything, it's just a one dimensional representation.
And when you get the real person and you get
their their personality and their smile, their words and the
way they speak, it just takes on a whole nother thing.
(44:15):
And I don't know, I don't know that I hadn't
necessarily preconceived notions about what she was going to be like,
and she just delighted me with her humor and her
well you know what she is.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
She's one of those people that when you talk to her,
you're like, I've known you forever. Yeah, like we could
go grab a glass of wine right now.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
Yeah, Yeah, for sure, I'm going to.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
Well, I mean, I feel like you're saying that to
make me a little bit jealous. I'm not a little bit, Jessica.
Speaker 4 (44:39):
Stop it.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Okay, I'll bring my iPhone FaceTime okay, just yeah, just
bring your iPad.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
All right, let's call it the end of the episode.
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